Somebody check the water in Utah. Also this lady’s fake emotions are too ridiculous. It seems like she’s trying to cover up her own responsibility in what she knows by acting victimized.
I have noticed on several occassions that those who fake tears make this same motion. After an attempt to squeeze out a tear they immediately reach up to wipe away the invisible tear. This is meant to convince you that you see no tears because they've been wiped away. Big problem though. What about the other eye? The sign is that they search the one hand looking and hoping for a tear. But it isn't there.
@@nadzach And their nose never gets red. Well, the tear ducts empty excess tears into the nose (that's why it runs when you actually cry, AND your nose gets stuffy). yet..NOTHING. it doesn't even get red. It's BS, and fakery.
Especially Mr Franke. Telling this story about all the people who had issues with Jodi, yet leaves his family for a year while in the hands of Jodi then claims "its not my fault. I did nothing" Right, my dude. You did NOTHING. That is why you are guilty.
@@cherachapin3826 He stood by and watched as Ruby disciplined their kids for years by withholding meals or birthday celebrations, threatening the youngest girl with cutting off her favorite stuffed animal’s head. Watched or supported / enabled.
There's something off with the Hannas as well. Given the size of their family and their involvement with Jody & Ruby, the smart thing would be to focus on their family and stay off cults and psychoanalysis.
If she was a friend of satan wouldn’t that most likely mean she’s not a great human herself ? Is 15 minutes of fame really worth everyone realizing that ?
So, if you know someone who happened to do some very bad things that you didn't know about, that makes you a bad person? You must be a woman. Because that sounds like some bored "stay at home mom" B.S. That logic is ridiculous. My brother is doing 25 years for second degree murder. Does that make me a murderer?
How about this impossibility: The state of Utah establish an investigative board that delves into all of these Mormon-related therapy and counseling groups. Jodi seems as unprepared and unprofessional as a person could be to be involved in this profession. At least Kevin comes across here as questioning and dismissive of the entire Jodi program. Still doesn't excuse his lack of action. This Paige Hanna needs to be either brought to justice or go away, and what is up with all these Utah/Mormon married men with no backbone?
Well- #1- She isn't a "close" friend if she is now coming out talking trash. #2- I question her motivation in doing this video series. (What is she hoping to gain?) Finally, #3- it sounds like she and her group have their own little cult going so....
Yes they took Kevin and Ruby to the UK and broke down his resistance to the cult. When Paige Hanna talks about how frustrated Johnny was when Jodi didn’t take his advice, it wasn’t guidance about being a better person, it was about business practices. Jodi was spinning her wheels because her program just wasn’t’t taking off. Paige Hanna is really glossing over how this was a business enterprise, and that each new ‘counselor’ they trained would have to kick back part of their earnings up the chain of command, IOW a pyramid scheme
They were torturing innocent little children so it doesn't surprise me that she had shadow figures and nightmares tormenting her What do you think 🤔 they were trying to tell her???? Stop 🛑 I'm sure
Yeah. Who wants that claim to fame?! "I was friends/colleagues with some of the most evil people in the country and I knew some of what was going on but didn't report it" Like WHAT? You want to be known for that? Just unreal. Disgusting.
Serious question for the Mormons: are y’all not allowed to speak above a whisper? Like, is that part of the deal along with the magic underwear? They all sound exactly the same when they talk and it’s honestly creepy.
@@Do-U-Know-me00 You couldn't make this sh1t up. However, this obviously fake religion, has millions of followers, and billions in the bank, through them having to give 10% of their earnings to this scam. Where you're being offered the chance to become the master of your own universe. As though, there were these middle-eastern tribes, who somehow travelled half-way around the World who ended up in up-state New York. Thousands of years before Columbus, and for which there is zero archaeological evidence. It'd be laughable, but people do actually waste their lives on this nonsense.
I've often thought all these people seem to look very similar. The woman and girls wear skirts and dresses a lot. They're hair always looks perfect. They have group photos where all the family are smiling. People like Ruby Franke and Lori Vallow have been doing bad stuff for years but don't draw attention from law enforcement because of their "nice families"
Thank you so much for putting the ad read at the beginning instead of in the middle. It feels so much more appropriate & respectful considering the heavy subject matter of the video.
Imagine being that much of a narcissist that you’re willing to make such a fool of yourself and imply you had knowledge of what was going on just to get your 15 seconds of fame.
I had formed a picture in my mind of the type of person Page Hannah is, based solely on Kevin's brief comments during that single interview. It wasn't a pretty one. Now, I'm deeply ashamed of myself. After learning the truth about Johnny Depp during his trial, I had promised myself that I would never again jump to conclusions about anyone without enough verified facts. I had been wrong then, and I was wrong again in this case.
I emailed her. She responded with honesty and humility. She said she never watched 8 passengers and admitted she was fooled by Jodi and took too long to get out from connexions. I think she's truly regretted being with them so long. She was repentant and seemed credible. But I understand it's very easy to assume she's guilty as they are. We'll trust what the abused men say Jodi did but not at least listen to Paige. I think she has a right to tell her story.
yeah it’s so important to keep an open mind when it comes to these things. it’s important to look at both sides even if you’re 99.9% sure that the person is guilty
@@joylynnebrown7690 They referred all of her “patients”. This isn’t the first time Jodi has been in the courts. They also enabled her “shadow people” delusions.
I wonder if they feel so obligated to have all these kids due to the social church pressure until they end up resenting the kids? Ruby's sister did a video on how to blanket train a toddler by putting a toy out of reach & then hitting their hand if they get off the blanket to reach for it. That's just crazy crap. Who does that?
I know! And she's calling Ruby selfish but having all of those kids and not being able to care for each and every one of them as she would need to is selfish. Stop having all the damn kids! Our world is overpopulated as it is.
No, I believe Jodi hates men and despises children. Her husband divorced her, her children rejected her and she affiliates with a faith community in which she'll never be more than a woman living in a man's world. Lots of potential for resentment there for a woman convinced she's the second coming of Joseph Smith and knowing the patriarchy running the LDS had no room for her authority in their hierarchy.
😂😂 seriously though! With many religions all the rules it’s just too much……Muslims have to pray 5 times a day, what if I’m watching game of thrones at the time I have to pray! That’s just an example don’t come at me!
2:49 I find it interesting how Kevin says in his interview that his first impression of this Connexions group was that it was “craziness” but yet he said in other interviews that he trusted Jodie’s knowledge and expertise, hence why he didn’t reach out to his family or his wife. Because he wanted to restore his marriage. If he thought it was craziness, why did he allow his wife or family to be counseled by this group? His stories aren’t adding up in my opinion.
This sounds so crazy that I can’t believe these people didn’t run for there lives in the early days of knowing Jodi. I would never listen or get involved with people who are doing or saying such things.
The only person in this mess with any light in their eyes is Jessi Hildebrandt. The rest seem cold and soulless. Ironic, considering how religious they profess to be.
The 8 passengers channel was inactive for 2 years before it was taken down after the arrest. The last video I believe was E's baptism when she turned 8 years old. How would Jodi profit off her channel if Ruby gave it to her except for the small residual pay which would have not been worth writing home about?
I’ve always wondered that too. Doesn’t add up. I get the idea that Jodi and Ruby are lesbians, and Ruby wanted to be Jodi’s right hand minion. Jodi loooved that.
My little sister used to say ITS A CIGARETTE instead of its a secret … too funny but it applies here as it’s something that is smelly, nasty and smoky…just like this hot mess!
I went thru some very similar treatment at the hands of a person who was a lot like Jodi, minus the physical abuse. I chronical it on my own channel. These people use beliefs to kill your own trust in yourself and your ability to think objectively for yourself!
Taking a parenting course from someone who lost custody of her own children has to be one of the stupidest things and very reckless. People that care about their kids don’t take parenting advice from someone who is no contact with her own kids.
@@lisaa3978 The fact that she says that Jodi confided her past to her makes me think she knew eventually and yet still trusted this person. She even admits that Jodi had priority over her family. Hopefully she has stopped blindly following people and has learned her family comes first. It’s crazy the amount of people at followed that lunatic! And how many families let her destroy them.
@@56ChevyBelAir I have a feeling that blindly following psychos comes from being raised to blindly obey and respect self-proclaimed authorities. It’s in their very foundation of self.
If you’ve used Incognito mode in Google’s Chrome browser, find out if you have a claim in a few clicks by visiting www.incognitoclaims.com/sidebar
She sounds as fake as Ruby.
I want the Behaviour Panel to review this.
These women all look like the cult version of the Stepford wives!
LOL, don't they?
I bet they all take holiday pics with the family wearing matching pajamas with their dog
Robots. Lol
LDS Church is a cult.
They look like those generic family pictures that come with picture frames.
B just wants her 15 minutes. If she were ever close to her she knew what Ruby was, couldve helped her children and didnt.
Sometimes people just go dark and crazy and slip out of peoples lives. I believe she would have said something if she knew something
Not everyone who ever knew someone despicable is responsible for someone’s behavior. Your stretching.
You'd be surprised how many people just watch child abuse and/or defend the parents.
Otherwise it wouldn't escalate like this.
B???
I think she’s been through a lot and because her name keeps coming up with this case, she wants to tell her side of the story. It’s fine
Somebody check the water in Utah. Also this lady’s fake emotions are too ridiculous. It seems like she’s trying to cover up her own responsibility in what she knows by acting victimized.
We call that "BYU" syndrome.
This is like giving an interview saying “I went to school with John Lennon, he was pretty into music”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL!😂 So true
I think “my friends” would notice if they didn’t see my kids for a long time??
Every member of that ConneXions grouo needs to be investigated. Preferably by investigators from outside of Utah.
The insanity of taking a parenting class from Jodi Hildebrandt!?!? All of her former clients/victims need support and probably deprogramming.
The FBI needs that email list
Taking parenting classes from a divorced woman whose child wants nothing to do with her.
@@Caketime2the fbi are corrupt. Where's the Jeffrey Epstien list of John's? NOT one has been held accountable.
somebody call an exorcist
Definitely need as many years of deprogramming as they had being brainwashed.
This should be titled "Ruby Franke's friend looking for her 15 minutes of fame"
yeah I clocked that in the first 5 seconds lol I'm not gonna watch the rest, just shameful
@@margonautica
I actually found her RUclips page. Not surprisingly, the comment section is turned off.
I wouldn’t believe a single word. You know the saying about birds with the same feathers flock together.
The owners of the house that had 2 of the girls working must be held accountable.
Pam Botcher
@@michelleg4069…. Thank you!
I do not trust Pam Botcher at all...
Pam
Pam is only interested in keeping herself away from LE
Why aren’t all of them arrested they had knowledge
I have noticed on several occassions that those who fake tears make this same motion. After an attempt to squeeze out a tear they immediately reach up to wipe away the invisible tear. This is meant to convince you that you see no tears because they've been wiped away. Big problem though. What about the other eye? The sign is that they search the one hand looking and hoping for a tear. But it isn't there.
@@nadzach And their nose never gets red. Well, the tear ducts empty excess tears into the nose (that's why it runs when you actually cry, AND your nose gets stuffy). yet..NOTHING. it doesn't even get red. It's BS, and fakery.
@@nadzach Like Dan Schneider
Those tears and whimpering are so fake.
IKR? Before doing her next interview she should take acting lessons 😂
Dan Schneider and Meryl Streep must be her BIGGEST Idols.
She's as full of it as Ruby.
A quick scan of comments tells me this was a bad idea on her part.
I was just thinking the same thing! 😳😂
Maybe she should have spoken up earlier. She is no better than they are.
Along with Mr. Franke.
Especially Mr Franke. Telling this story about all the people who had issues with Jodi, yet leaves his family for a year while in the hands of Jodi then claims "its not my fault. I did nothing" Right, my dude. You did NOTHING. That is why you are guilty.
@@cherachapin3826 He stood by and watched as Ruby disciplined their kids for years by withholding meals or birthday celebrations, threatening the youngest girl with cutting off her favorite stuffed animal’s head. Watched or supported / enabled.
There's something off with the Hannas as well. Given the size of their family and their involvement with Jody & Ruby, the smart thing would be to focus on their family and stay off cults and psychoanalysis.
If she was a friend of satan wouldn’t that most likely mean she’s not a great human herself ? Is 15 minutes of fame really worth everyone realizing that ?
Some people have no shame. Anything for that 15 minutes. So ignorant. 🙄
There is no Satan. Only weird human beings stuck in the dark ages think this.
So, if you know someone who happened to do some very bad things that you didn't know about, that makes you a bad person? You must be a woman. Because that sounds like some bored "stay at home mom" B.S. That logic is ridiculous. My brother is doing 25 years for second degree murder. Does that make me a murderer?
Yeah, she claimed satan loves her. Wanted her to be his bride.
Keeping quiet would’ve made her look better 🤣
I see a whole lot of "acting" going on here with this PH.
Crying with no tears, interesting.
"PH?"
Her initials Paige Hannah @@Mac-sb5lj
@@Mac-sb5ljPanty hose? 🤔
@@Mac-sb5lj Paige Hanna
@@NickyfromCanada the "friend of Ruby" Paige Hanna
My favorite part of any Law & Crime update is the friendship between Jesse Weber and Brian Schnee. 🧡
I hope that Brian Schnee is writing a book about this case.
Why aren’t they all arrested, knowledge ??😮
Yeah, especially that old couple where they found 2 daughters working? They knew too.
So he knew she was mess and still left his children in the situation.
These people are like something from the dark ages. Kevin gives me the creeps too.
How about this impossibility: The state of Utah establish an investigative board that delves into all of these Mormon-related therapy and counseling groups. Jodi seems as unprepared and unprofessional as a person could be to be involved in this profession. At least Kevin comes across here as questioning and dismissive of the entire Jodi program. Still doesn't excuse his lack of action. This Paige Hanna needs to be either brought to justice or go away, and what is up with all these Utah/Mormon married men with no backbone?
But you were her best friend so you knew!!!! And did nothing. Your just as bad and I don’t have sympathy for you
Well- #1- She isn't a "close" friend if she is now coming out talking trash. #2- I question her motivation in doing this video series. (What is she hoping to gain?) Finally, #3- it sounds like she and her group have their own little cult going so....
Damage control
Every time I attempt to listen to more details about this case it just becomes creepier and more disturbing.
Weren't the Hanna's the coupke that pulled the Frankes into Jody's orbit? If so, shouldn't Page Hanna be ashamed for her part in the whole debacle?
Yes they took Kevin and Ruby to the UK and broke down his resistance to the cult.
When Paige Hanna talks about how frustrated Johnny was when Jodi didn’t take his advice, it wasn’t guidance about being a better person, it was about business practices. Jodi was spinning her wheels because her program just wasn’t’t taking off. Paige Hanna is really glossing over how this was a business enterprise, and that each new ‘counselor’ they trained would have to kick back part of their earnings up the chain of command, IOW a pyramid scheme
@@yankeecitygirl Smells like a typical mormon MLM to me...
They were torturing innocent little children so it doesn't surprise me that she had shadow figures and nightmares tormenting her
What do you think 🤔 they were trying to tell her???? Stop 🛑 I'm sure
Everyone wants their 15 min. Shameful.
Yeah. Who wants that claim to fame?!
"I was friends/colleagues with some of the most evil people in the country and I knew some of what was going on but didn't report it"
Like WHAT?
You want to be known for that?
Just unreal. Disgusting.
We see you Paige Hannah!🙄
so let me get this straight . They were taking parenting classes from someone not in contact with their own children. Sounds like a great plan .
Just remember Christopher Hitchens: 'Religion poisons everything '
RIP Hitch.
She did the EXACT SAME thing to him, but he doesn't know what's the truth?
8:45 I can't get past that little boy superman haircut.
Serious question for the Mormons: are y’all not allowed to speak above a whisper? Like, is that part of the deal along with the magic underwear?
They all sound exactly the same when they talk and it’s honestly creepy.
I remember watching an interview with an ex Mormon and she said they have to speak that way as females
This is what happens if you're in a ridiculous cult. Started by a conman, with a magic hat, who had fifty wives.
@@sandgrownun66 LMFAO
@@Do-U-Know-me00 You couldn't make this sh1t up. However, this obviously fake religion, has millions of followers, and billions in the bank, through them having to give 10% of their earnings to this scam. Where you're being offered the chance to become the master of your own universe.
As though, there were these middle-eastern tribes, who somehow travelled half-way around the World who ended up in up-state New York. Thousands of years before Columbus, and for which there is zero archaeological evidence. It'd be laughable, but people do actually waste their lives on this nonsense.
@@normavoyton3208this is false.
Funny how Kevin has so many details about the current relationship dynamics but also doesn’t know…
I've often thought all these people seem to look very similar. The woman and girls wear skirts and dresses a lot. They're hair always looks perfect. They have group photos where all the family are smiling. People like Ruby Franke and Lori Vallow have been doing bad stuff for years but don't draw attention from law enforcement because of their "nice families"
It's not a parka, it's a puffer lol
The fact that these two took parenting classes from Jodi tells me everything I need to know. Authorities should be investigating them too.
Her emotion doesn’t seem genuine in the least. If you want your 15 minutes, I would not choose to piggy back off this story 🤦♀️
My intuition (and body language analysis) in the first 3 seconds here tells me that she’s acting.
Why wasn't she helping those poor children who were obviously being emotionally and physically abused?
How cold does this dude keep his house that he has to wear a winter jacket inside?
If any therapist wants me to move in with you, RUN!!!
This woman 🙄. Exactly, 15 minutes of fame.
Was that Kevin in the video of the three men dancing behind jodi? Ooo - yikes.
how are these people even real?
Thank you so much for putting the ad read at the beginning instead of in the middle. It feels so much more appropriate & respectful considering the heavy subject matter of the video.
So much drama, like a soap opera. 11:43
Imagine being that much of a narcissist that you’re willing to make such a fool of yourself and imply you had knowledge of what was going on just to get your 15 seconds of fame.
I had formed a picture in my mind of the type of person Page Hannah is, based solely on Kevin's brief comments during that single interview. It wasn't a pretty one. Now, I'm deeply ashamed of myself. After learning the truth about Johnny Depp during his trial, I had promised myself that I would never again jump to conclusions about anyone without enough verified facts. I had been wrong then, and I was wrong again in this case.
I emailed her. She responded with honesty and humility. She said she never watched 8 passengers and admitted she was fooled by Jodi and took too long to get out from connexions. I think she's truly regretted being with them so long. She was repentant and seemed credible. But I understand it's very easy to assume she's guilty as they are. We'll trust what the abused men say Jodi did but not at least listen to Paige. I think she has a right to tell her story.
yeah it’s so important to keep an open mind when it comes to these things. it’s important to look at both sides even if you’re 99.9% sure that the person is guilty
O M G !
Kevin Franke’s monotone puts me to sleep! I would’ve hated to have been a student of his and had to have listened to his lectures!
The Jesse Webber, Brian Schnee bromance is EVERYTHING! ❤
What a false actress.
Again, no one is holding the LDS Church responsible for referring and enabling Jodi.
They didn't know. And what about who gave Jodi her licence and let her keep it even though their were complaints against her.
@@joylynnebrown7690 They referred all of her “patients”. This isn’t the first time Jodi has been in the courts. They also enabled her “shadow people” delusions.
Brian’s jacket looks like he’s trying to blend into the brick wall.
8 children in 10 years!!! These mormons are goofy and it comes. And listen to how she refers to her daughter.
I wonder if they feel so obligated to have all these kids due to the social church pressure until they end up resenting the kids? Ruby's sister did a video on how to blanket train a toddler by putting a toy out of reach & then hitting their hand if they get off the blanket to reach for it. That's just crazy crap. Who does that?
@@Bess9779Michelle Duggar also did that. It’s bad enough to blanket train, but to admit it and find nothing wrong with it is crazy.
I know! And she's calling Ruby selfish but having all of those kids and not being able to care for each and every one of them as she would need to is selfish. Stop having all the damn kids! Our world is overpopulated as it is.
@@realtalkwithLorin Thank you!!
@@Bess9779 THAT is sick! And youtube allows this? I say the wrong word and YT warns me. Geez!
Odd crease between the eyes of Ruby and Jodie. Match in a strange way.
I would not take a parenting class from someone having nightmares about Satan being after them. What were these people thinking?
Not to defend her but she didn’t know about any of that way back when she took the class. There’s a whole a timeline.
Does anyone think tgat Jodi has crushes on pretty blondes?
No, I believe Jodi hates men and despises children. Her husband divorced her, her children rejected her and she affiliates with a faith community in which she'll never be more than a woman living in a man's world. Lots of potential for resentment there for a woman convinced she's the second coming of Joseph Smith and knowing the patriarchy running the LDS had no room for her authority in their hierarchy.
Neither one is particularly pretty, imo. But Jodi does seem to have a type.
Who is Jodie Hilderbrand, what is her background. Age. Where did she get the money to buy that mansion.
Social media...had millions of followers.
So Jodi claimed she was kidnapped by the Hannahs? What the heck is happening…….
That woman's idea of what proves it is a cult, is a little shy of ALL the reasons. That one, is the LEAST of the signs.
She is just waiting to make more money on the topic
It seems like so much work to be in a cult. Like doesn't anyone want to go home after work and watch tv?
😂😂 seriously though! With many religions all the rules it’s just too much……Muslims have to pray 5 times a day, what if I’m watching game of thrones at the time I have to pray! That’s just an example don’t come at me!
She said there would be a third video and that she is going on chronological order.
2:49 I find it interesting how Kevin says in his interview that his first impression of this Connexions group was that it was “craziness” but yet he said in other interviews that he trusted Jodie’s knowledge and expertise, hence why he didn’t reach out to his family or his wife. Because he wanted to restore his marriage. If he thought it was craziness, why did he allow his wife or family to be counseled by this group? His stories aren’t adding up in my opinion.
If I had been associated with Jodi I would never leave my house to show my face again…but this woman decides to go on RUclips.
They are all crazy 😝
"Birds of a feather flock together"
I can't stand the guy, he should be in prison too.
This sounds so crazy that I can’t believe these people didn’t run for there lives in the early days of knowing Jodi. I would never listen or get involved with people who are doing or saying such things.
The only person in this mess with any light in their eyes is Jessi Hildebrandt.
The rest seem cold and soulless. Ironic, considering how religious they profess to be.
Spot on
Wow. So true.
I will never tire of the clip of the police pulling Jodi out her front door.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa!
Don’t believe her.
Watching Jodi getting yanked out the door never gets old
Her cry, distress, and empathy comes off as fake.
I clicked on the link because I've used incognito mode, but unless you were harmed while using it it doesn't add you to the lawsuit
Funny how they tell all after the fact
This entire crew in a pack of nuts!🤦♀️
So many insane 'adults' in this case 🙄
The 8 passengers channel was inactive for 2 years before it was taken down after the arrest. The last video I believe was E's baptism when she turned 8 years old. How would Jodi profit off her channel if Ruby gave it to her except for the small residual pay which would have not been worth writing home about?
I’ve always wondered that too. Doesn’t add up. I get the idea that Jodi and Ruby are lesbians, and Ruby wanted to be Jodi’s right hand minion. Jodi loooved that.
All the clout chasers coming out
For a father not to see his children speaks how bad a person he is, they all need charged especially having children clean, Anne from Scotland.
My little sister used to say ITS A CIGARETTE instead of its a secret … too funny but it applies here as it’s something that is smelly, nasty and smoky…just like this hot mess!
When ever I heard the older children were at the Hannah’s house cleaning and doing chores I knew something was wrong with these people
It was’t the Hanna house, it was the Bodtcher’s.
That was Pam Bodtcher's house.
My bad
Brian Snee is the best
1:01 Because I just came across an old Zoo Life VHS that I used to watch as a kid that featured Jack Hannah?
I think Jody was relentless & hated men because she always wanted to be a man & was jealous of all men.
16:28 that classroom performance looks cringe.
How ridiculous do they look on stage, the men acting will probably be hiding, what an embarisment. Anne from Scotland
I went thru some very similar treatment at the hands of a person who was a lot like Jodi, minus the physical abuse. I chronical it on my own channel. These people use beliefs to kill your own trust in yourself and your ability to think objectively for yourself!
wow, got here EARLY!! anyone want some popcorn?🍿🍿🍿🍿
ill take skittles the sour kind extra lime haha
Taking a parenting course from someone who lost custody of her own children has to be one of the stupidest things and very reckless. People that care about their kids don’t take parenting advice from someone who is no contact with her own kids.
She addressed that and said she never asked. Humble-bragged that she is very trusting.
@@lisaa3978 The fact that she says that Jodi confided her past to her makes me think she knew eventually and yet still trusted this person. She even admits that Jodi had priority over her family. Hopefully she has stopped blindly following people and has learned her family comes first. It’s crazy the amount of people at followed that lunatic! And how many families let her destroy them.
@@56ChevyBelAir I have a feeling that blindly following psychos comes from being raised to blindly obey and respect self-proclaimed authorities. It’s in their very foundation of self.
Kevin knew what Jody was serving up and he left the kids with Ruby? This proves it. He can't be trusted.
I hope this is why he doesn’t have custody yet. That and the divorce hasn’t gone through (why not? Idk)
They are all LDS but jobs.
There is video of police finding and opening The Pen Papers folder/journals