See I think another issue we are currently facing is there are 30 "low pop" classic era servers currently in the game. Which I feel like could be condensed... Sometimes you can search the AH for 3-4 days straight and not be able to find any items you want/need.
This concept has existed for years. Diablo 2 ladder. The only difference here is it's a "transfer when the realm pop dies" concept. That's called the end of a ladder season. Force the "new" server close when it reaches end of life and transfer everyone to the non-ladder server. I've been saying this forever
If Blizzard did this, and actually made it known beforehand - I might actually play on the fresh server to level another character. Otherwise I will continue to play on DP
The problem is...... There are a lot of OG's on these older servers, both defiance pillager and skull rock. Meaning day one players. We watched the massive wave of bots that came with the original HC hype, and we have watched the bots die down. Used to be bots leveling characters and selling them and then you are in a dungeon with somebody who does not know what they are doing with their freshly bought warrior, and everybody die. We don't want to be grouping with a bunch of level 60's that just transferred over and nobody knows who they are or how they play or anything. Everybody tends to know everybody in these humble HC servers. On skull rock it's about 200-300 on horde side players when it is real dry and slow, and 1k+ when it's active. Just on the horde side. Alliance seems to be just as booming. At raid time there could be about 100-120 raiders in all the raids on horde side alone. It would be rough to just pour 60-100+ unknown raiders into a scene like that. Our servers aren't dead. We hate our lives, but we are happy here. It's a somewhat brilliant plan, but all the OG's that are still playing today are already assuming we know which server you will pick. Server transfer would have to require minimum of naked and no bank. You only keep your level, no items no money. That's how everquest did it. Okay i could talk all day.
so if your server is fine and you don't need new players the obvious solution is to just not group with them. I don't understand what you're yapping about
@@JKMYST Transferring onto skull rock or onto defias pillager from another server would absolutely hurt the balance and economy of what we have. Bot groups would immediately form on the feeder/fresh servers with the sole intention of leveling a character to 60 and selling it on the original servers, or just bringing over hordes of gold or anything that can be exploited. You would have to make the transfer onto these original servers 100% no items or gold transfer for it to be even somewhat viable, and still a bad idea. Why not just pick a server to zerg? We are all already prepared for that to happen. What we don't want is for the HC hype to come and go, like we know it will, and then a bunch of uninterested stream followers get dumped into our server and their heart isn't really in the game. Just getting people killed, possibly intentional for content
@@irateeverything351 Most new people will quit when only fangs quits/hype dies down, it just leaves the option for the 2 people left to transfer and continue. The new fresh server people want exactly that, fresh rush then to quit, or else they would already be playing with you right now. Also selling characters might be bricked now, right before TWW launch they discontinued doing char transfer between battle net accounts even if same name as account holder. From what i read that was a big way people sold chars.
@@mikesmith-zh3go You can have a new fresh server, but you should not be able to transfer with heaps of read gear and gold funded by the zerg of steam-goers. Naked transfers if you have to have transfers. Bring your level only. That's hardcore. Hey, keep your main hand only, but what sardaco said about bringing tons of wealth into these smaller servers would not affect the economy or anything is completely wrong.
This entire video is just pure cope. Classic servers are dead because nobody wants to play on them. This isn't some whacky technical issue. Classic isn't as popular as people that play Classic think. Most of the player base on WoW is in Retail and the rest are a bunch of Chinese players playing through WOTLK Classic because they never got to experience it during the OG launch of that expansion. The community, as a whole, with the exception of those Chinese players, have decided that Classic just isn't that fun
Valid points but boomers gonna boom man, let em have their classic, doesn't negatively impact you (if your a retail andy) in anyway, if anything it makes retail more enjoyable cause less boomers in your m+ XD
Can we stop talking about HC and please start talking about fresh era
See I think another issue we are currently facing is there are 30 "low pop" classic era servers currently in the game. Which I feel like could be condensed... Sometimes you can search the AH for 3-4 days straight and not be able to find any items you want/need.
Yeah super dumb tbh. At most you need 4 servers. PvP, pve, RPPVP AND RPPVE.
Could even cut them down to 2 servers with a warmode
That is actually really smart. It’s almost like a leveling server.
That's what HC servers are for the most part anyways. Fresh HC makes 0 sense no matter how you spin it. Streamers just have a lot of pull I guess.
True, we only ever got classic initially because of big streamers @@kengxi
So basically, ladder servers. Each season there's a new ladder, then when the ladder is over your characters get moved to the non-ladder server.
Brother, you just reinvented ladder seasons.
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This concept has existed for years. Diablo 2 ladder. The only difference here is it's a "transfer when the realm pop dies" concept. That's called the end of a ladder season. Force the "new" server close when it reaches end of life and transfer everyone to the non-ladder server. I've been saying this forever
brilliant solution. mind-boggling that Blizzard hasn't solved the dead server issue.
Tbc fresh and tbc hardcore. Dont need. Hardcore fresh server wht are the small comunity . The hardcore server need merge.
If Blizzard did this, and actually made it known beforehand - I might actually play on the fresh server to level another character. Otherwise I will continue to play on DP
Maybe MAYBE ... they dont want to spend money on a new server?
does this guy ever smile
make one of the dead ones a TBC hardcore
are the hc servers dead tho?
Big brain
Fresh HC makes 0 sense no matter how you spin it. It's a glorified leveling server it doesn't need to be "fresh".
@@joe8133can play the current HC servers like everyone else what’s the issue
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Duude noone wants Hardcore fresh does not make any sense, only for the streamers, ffs just pick a server and play and stop crying.
Clicked the video for FRESH
Nicely put Sardaco!
Blizzard just needs to hire an economist for a year and develop methodologies to solve the issue.
The problem is...... There are a lot of OG's on these older servers, both defiance pillager and skull rock. Meaning day one players. We watched the massive wave of bots that came with the original HC hype, and we have watched the bots die down. Used to be bots leveling characters and selling them and then you are in a dungeon with somebody who does not know what they are doing with their freshly bought warrior, and everybody die.
We don't want to be grouping with a bunch of level 60's that just transferred over and nobody knows who they are or how they play or anything. Everybody tends to know everybody in these humble HC servers. On skull rock it's about 200-300 on horde side players when it is real dry and slow, and 1k+ when it's active. Just on the horde side. Alliance seems to be just as booming. At raid time there could be about 100-120 raiders in all the raids on horde side alone. It would be rough to just pour 60-100+ unknown raiders into a scene like that.
Our servers aren't dead. We hate our lives, but we are happy here. It's a somewhat brilliant plan, but all the OG's that are still playing today are already assuming we know which server you will pick. Server transfer would have to require minimum of naked and no bank. You only keep your level, no items no money. That's how everquest did it. Okay i could talk all day.
so if your server is fine and you don't need new players the obvious solution is to just not group with them. I don't understand what you're yapping about
@@JKMYST Transferring onto skull rock or onto defias pillager from another server would absolutely hurt the balance and economy of what we have.
Bot groups would immediately form on the feeder/fresh servers with the sole intention of leveling a character to 60 and selling it on the original servers, or just bringing over hordes of gold or anything that can be exploited.
You would have to make the transfer onto these original servers 100% no items or gold transfer for it to be even somewhat viable, and still a bad idea.
Why not just pick a server to zerg? We are all already prepared for that to happen.
What we don't want is for the HC hype to come and go, like we know it will, and then a bunch of uninterested stream followers get dumped into our server and their heart isn't really in the game. Just getting people killed, possibly intentional for content
@@irateeverything351 Most new people will quit when only fangs quits/hype dies down, it just leaves the option for the 2 people left to transfer and continue. The new fresh server people want exactly that, fresh rush then to quit, or else they would already be playing with you right now. Also selling characters might be bricked now, right before TWW launch they discontinued doing char transfer between battle net accounts even if same name as account holder. From what i read that was a big way people sold chars.
@@mikesmith-zh3go You can have a new fresh server, but you should not be able to transfer with heaps of read gear and gold funded by the zerg of steam-goers. Naked transfers if you have to have transfers. Bring your level only. That's hardcore.
Hey, keep your main hand only, but what sardaco said about bringing tons of wealth into these smaller servers would not affect the economy or anything is completely wrong.
This entire video is just pure cope. Classic servers are dead because nobody wants to play on them. This isn't some whacky technical issue. Classic isn't as popular as people that play Classic think.
Most of the player base on WoW is in Retail and the rest are a bunch of Chinese players playing through WOTLK Classic because they never got to experience it during the OG launch of that expansion. The community, as a whole, with the exception of those Chinese players, have decided that Classic just isn't that fun
Valid points but boomers gonna boom man, let em have their classic, doesn't negatively impact you (if your a retail andy) in anyway, if anything it makes retail more enjoyable cause less boomers in your m+ XD