Detransitioner: "My Penis Is Gone Forever & I Regret it" | Emotional Interview
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- This is my intense, emotional interview with a male-to-female-to-male detransitioner who goes by the screen name ShapeShifter. The full episode of this podcast airs on @TheBlaireWhiteProject the day after this video goes live, as well as on Spotify + all streaming platforms.
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Thanks Blaire! I 💗 you!!
Funny story... about a year ago I was on the ask transgender reddit (concerned parent of a trans identifying daughter here:-)).... a young person was on there asking for recommendations on who to have his mom watch for good information about trans issues. He mentioned his mom had been watching you, and several ppl were saying he should give her OTHER ppl to watch and that you were horrible and a transphobe.
Ha ha suckers!!
Those comments are what piqued my interest in checking you out. Silver lining to the hater clouds my dear!!
Oh, and I love Shapeshifter too💕 I'm sorry for the losses he's had, truly heartbreaking.
I want to tell him something in case he hasn't heard of it.
Oxytocin is the bonding/love hormone that is produced by many physical activities, including sex. It sounds like Shape has been robbed of his ability to orgasm or even enjoy sex. BUT he can still get the feel good emotions that we get after sex by physical closeness, massages, etc. There are other "feel good" hormones too (dopamine, serotonin, endorphins). When ppl talk about the potential risks of SRS and it's impact on sexual function i feel like they leave out the part about how sex gives us both physical AND EMOTIONAL well-being and without it.... we can suffer in multiple ways. I grieve for the loss Shapeshifter has and I hope someone can help guide him in ways to nuture his body and his mind.... and how he can achieve the feelings of intimacy and love and bonding even with his limitations 💗💗💗
You’re a class act, Blair.
If I had to formulate maybe the most important question to ask a feminine biological male who wants to transition it would be this:
Are you transitioning because of gender dysphoria or are you depressed that as a feminine man there seems to be certain men you can’t date and you want to date them and you think if you transition you would be able to…for me this has to be asked. It’s the elephant in the room.
We know gay men generally are attracted to masculinity. So clearly feminine gay men are desiring to be loved by a man who is attracted to your femininity not your masculinity so your odds of finding a gay man who is attracted to you is low. So clearly you need to find straight men who once you had a sex change wouldn’t care…or men who like both biological woman and trans woman.
I can say that there are masculine men like myself who I guess you could say are bisexual or just those that are attracted to femininity. It’s funny cause you called the men that didn’t want you to get the full sex change tyranny chasers. But in sense that shows the sense of self hatred that is buried. The ones that are genuinely are attracted to who you are as you are just those with a fetish. And yet you want the guys who would only like you if you chopped your dick off. That just shows you how our society makes people hate those that have your back and are drawn to those that don’t.
Hello Blaire you're amazing. As a straight women I totally support you. Much love.
‘They didn’t protect me from myself’ has to be the saddest confession ever
Ikr 😭😭
This broke my heart
He's not a child .... His parents failed to teach him how to protect himself from himself and others ..mentally emotionally and physically
@@aureliemariesimacourbe7220 and he rejected his parents' attempts to protect him from himself.
@@aureliemariesimacourbe7220 I totally agree, I mean we can’t police everyone
The fact that the Trans community would label him Transphobic tells you everything you need to know!
We all know how hostile cult members can be to people outside the cult, especially those who were part of it then abandoned it.
Edit: I am referring to the Woke cult not transgenderism, my apologies I can see why people would misunderstand.
@@crimsonshinobi5281 You are so right.
It’s is literally a Cult/religion of hate.
@@crimsonshinobi5281 being trans isn’t a cult…
@@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 not in a formal sense... but those who follow the beliefs act the same as those in a cult
I keep hearing de-transitioners say "I wish someone had just told me I needed therapy and a hug." Ok, but when we tried to do that in the earliest stages of the trans movement gaining social traction, you got angry, threatened us, threatened to cancel us and get us fired for transphobia, and you called us all the nasty names in the book. YOU stopped us from giving you what we knew you needed.
Say that again!! I'm getting you a microphone.
Well it depends fr ofc you’re not gonna be able to take that in from strangers telling you that on the internet bc they don’t know you but he wishes his family, knowing all he’s been through, would’ve stopped him and made him think past the influence of the internet or doctors pushing transition and dive deeper into himself/ what unresolved trauma is causing him to feel the way he does
Yup
That is a harsh but sad truth. And most of these people who claim to be trans, pan, binary etc............are just attention seeking.
This is why children should be made to wait til adulthood to make that decision.
“They affirmed me into self harm.” WOW. What a powerful statement.
the thing is, they threatened doctors with lawsuits if they were denied the 'right' to transition. People tried to tell them to not do this, but they accused us of being homophobic, transphobic anything phobic. We reap what we sow. This is not the first story I've listened to.
When I was 13 I was diagnosed by my therapist that I had gender identity disorder and went on for six months thinking I was a trans man. The fact is that I’m just a tomboy and 8 years later I’m more feminine. Why do they just jump to that when a kid says they feel like a boy or girl
That really does suck how people are so quick to call femboys n tomboys trans just because their more masculine or femine then average
When I was a young child in the 70s, I wanted to play with hot wheels, Tonka trunks and cars, explore creeks, dig in the dirt etc….if I was growing up today I would be “transgender”.
@@ladycaticorn2950 Well real trans people exist and shouldn’t be punished for what a few confused people do
The bottom line here is that kids don't have the maturity to decide to transition. That is a decision that should be made by adults only. ALL CHILDREN should be encouraged to wait until they grow up to make these decisions.
@@calebmurdock2028 Teens do though when it comes to medical transition but kids have the maturity for social transition.
"They affirmed my delusions." "Transitioning is a huge industry." "It's like a sexual lobotomy." This video needs to go viral
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The social experiment part was scarily true as well.
I got banned from Twitter for saying in the very near future we will regard these trans surgeries the same way we regard lobotomies.
I feel so sad for him :(
"Sometimes a bitter truth is better than a sweet lie." Too. That was powerful, and exactly why I stopped lying to myself and other people about gender ideology.
As a 44 year old woman who had a double mastectomy and failed reconstruction, I feel terribly sad for this poor soul. It's hell losing something due to cancer, knowing you have done this to yourself has to be living in hell on Earth.😪😪😪😪😪😪😪
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Im sorry to hear about that. Both my grandmas had to get mastectomies. One a double one a single. If you dont mind sharing, what went wrong with your reconstruction? It should have just been implants right?
“They didn’t protect me from myself.” 💔
This is why it isn’t loving or kind to lie. Don’t be rude or mean, but don’t lie. Regular therapist are stuck with bosses that are telling them to lie or leave. However, there are Christian counselors for Christians going through this stuff that I actually will be honest and give actual support, including deliverance and Christian soul wound therapy, ministry connections.
"They never dove into my childhood trauma." I feel like a lot of people who are gender confused need to do this before anything else, especially anything permanent.
I fear most are running away from trauma
trauma and gender dysphoria go hand in hand
They can't do anything but affirm or else they get fired
@@owl3650 So you are saying no one is allowed to delve into their childhood trauma as a natural course of their therapy?
Oh, definitely...and what they are doing is putting a band aid on when heart surgery is in order. They are only fooling themselves and others who are just as disillusioned. @@britishroyalfamilyvideos
“The bitter truth is better than a sweet lie.” Great line.
This needs to be heard by everyone in the left.
A lot of people with gender dysphoria need to hear the truth but instead they are being lied to by affirming their mental disorder. We don’t normalize schizophrenia, we help them. I actually feel for these people, they need our compassion and help.
roflmfPPo
Hes a eunuch..
Also, you cant change bone structure
No the “truth” sometimes is the lie like for example religion
The courage it must take to have this conversation in public is unbelievable.
This madness has to stop completely.
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The fact that therapist and doctors just “drop” their patients after these major surgeries is disgusting. You are altering these people’s lives permanently and they need continued help after these surgeries.
That’s how surgeons are. I had weight loss surgery and they just didn’t give a f*** about me after the procedure. I had major complications and got down to 79 lb (I’m 5’7) and they just didn’t care about me because I wasn’t a success story blowing smoke up the surgeon’s butt. They just told me all my complications like constant puking blood and agony for 2 years were ‘good for weight loss’ and to drink root beer and see my normal doctor when I called and called for help. The truth was, I wasn’t that big to start with, (167 lb) and should never have been operated on, but I was in a bad place and they saw $$$$. It’s an industry just like selling cars.
Yes so they can make more money
@@blondesense1708 OMG!! I would love to weigh 167!! My problem is with my pancreas and being able to secrete enough digestive juice not eating! I weigh 196 but it's mostly muscle and if I got the surgery I would just be worse I know it
Yep. Spend five minutes on r/transgendersurgeries and it's nothing but post after post after post of people with wound dehiscence, necrotic tissue, and a rotten meat smell describing how their surgeons were suddenly impossible to get a hold of and/or didn't care about a surgical wound that warranted IMMEDIATE medical care.
And all the other commenters are like "oh ya girl it's totally normal for your "clit" to fall off. Your kitty looks AmAzInG!!!1!!!1!1!!!"
Grown men calling vaginas "kitties" and pretending actual dying tissue is notmal... All in the day of a neovagina I guess.
@@blondesense1708 I'm sorry that happened. I can't believe they dismissed the fact that you were vomiting blood. I thought that was a medical emergency. Are you in the US? The healthcare industry there seems to be seriously messed up.
“I wish somebody hugged me a few years back…”
Such a powerful statement! Yes, they need help and love not mutilation.
But most people discriminates them and pushes them away
@@Ishnunez because the LGBT has an agenda, and it isn't to help people, especially children.
@@Ishnunez yes its our fault not whatever it is
stay out of MY genitals ...people detransition not because they are no longer trans but because of pressure from the haters and christians, you wouldnt know that becuase you never asked the questions world eg LOOK AT THIS GIRL TALKING SHE'S UNHAPPY WITH THE SURGERY RESULTS NOT WITH BEING TRANSGENDER...YOU ARE THE PROBLEM GURL
They, themselves inflict themselves mutilation and somehow it is somebody else's fault ...🤯
Besides if he/she/they transitioned "male-to-female-to-male", how come she looks and dresses like a woman?!?!?
It’s a message for people to stop messing with the natural way of things! Accept who you are, embrace your uniqueness and try to understand that changing your body, gender or pronouns, is not going make you feel happier. Love and acceptance comes from one’s self first.
You are loved ❤️
I agree with most of what you said. Except for these ladies wearing makeup and dresses etc. That is 💯 % fine and good if it makes them happy. And it's not harmful like Rx & surgery can be.
He is so well spoken and I feel truly sorry that this happened to him
We will be seeing a lot more people like this in the years to come.
De transition rate is rlly low
@@nyomic.7341 Because it's nearly impossible to reverse the damage done. Exactly what has been said by the very depressed individuals who transition before the frontal lobe is developed.
@@alissahhodges5854 that’s not why de transitioning is a low rate, not everyone who transitions gets things surgically done IST extremely expensive. It’s low because ppl are making the choice that best suits them. Younger teens that want to transition are not getting anything done that is irreversible they will be fine
@@nyomic.7341 they are thou! I know of several teens who had top surgery..their boobs are gone forever 😢, their uterus is not grown properly and they can’t have pregnancy..it’s frankly fucked up. 😢
@@MrsStevenBrown younger teens are not eligible to get top surgery, you have to be 18 at that point they are an adult. Anyone younger would have to prove that they are in an extreme state of mental distress and have to be signed off by a mental health professional. We have a small percentage of ppl who are trans, then we have an even smaller percentage of teens that’s are trans, and then an even smaller percentage of families that can afford a $10,000 surgery. And within all of that you have only a small percentage of ppl that regret transitioning. It’s not fucked up if that’s what they wanted for themselves
The issue is that when people tell trans people to stop and think about medically transitioning or getting a sex change, they call you a transphobe. I find it appalling how some doctors do the surgeries or give the hormones without telling the patient everything and making sure they're 100% sure.
thats cuss they call doctors transphobes if they don't automatically give you the green light for hormones and surgery
it used to be like that, but unfortunately the restrictions have become so lax now, all the therapy you used to have to go through to make sure things like this didnt have simply isnt there anymore. "woke" culture and all these left extremists have diluted the measures that were in place so "children dont kill themselves" when , in some cases, these simply makes it worse
So true. I’m always called a transphobe. Doesn’t phase me at this point. The T cult encourages everyone to do surgeries without batting an eye
And the psychiatrists!
Also what happens when transitioning became a trend… like seriously, it is ridiculous. I’m sure there are people who truly want to change sex, but nowadays it seems everyone wants to do it just because they saw it on social media. Same thing with pronouns…
Thank you both for your vulnerability and courage to share your heart and your experiences ❤🙏🏻
Here is the problem, you did this to yourself.
Your who ever you want to be your sill beautiful
@@justiceseekerbe in a body for one second, then hate it so much you wanted to kill yourself, then double this two times over! These people are not like the new wave of ‘I’m trans’ they are trans people … true trans people..xx
The nervous laughter is heartbreaking. She seems like such a beautiful person, inside and out. I can only imagine how she feels. ❤
“They never tackled my childhood traumas… they affirmed me into self harm” oof. This breaks my heart for him and also for other people who are struggling with trauma or mental health issues and being pushed towards such medical extremes
Because how would random people on the internet know how to deal with trauma
When the average mental health professional isn’t even trained in trauma related mental illnesses
Use your common sense kid
THIS. We need to address these deeper issues. Parents need to give these children the tools they need to sit with the hard shit, the uncomfortable emotions, the trauma, the pain and heal from it. The mental health issues NEED to be addressed at the very least while making these decisions about altering your body. I cant stress enough how little this is being talked about and young trans people need to be DILIGIGENT on getting their mindset in the right space before rushing into life alrtering decisions. For some people they get lucky and it works out but for so many others it doesnt and leaves people abandoned/broken.
*Her* ???
@@schabowy6149 Misgendering much? He's back to male.
@@cadenharmsen8845 how can a health professional determine if its a genuine case of gender dysphoria if all they are permitted to do is affirm these people? their hands are tied. There's not enough *GATE* *KEEPING* for something that's such a profoundly life changing decision and has such devastating consequences if they make a mistake! it's about protecting people.
He is the prime example of why we need to protect our children and why mental health is so important. I appreciate the courage it took for him to come on the show and be completely honest and open.
All these people need to do repent from sin give Jesus a try.
My heart is dying because of these poor kids. Parents should be imprisoned but the government is pushing this. They really are evil. People need God for real
@@pearlettadouglas4218was looking for a real point. Got it! Even if parents would "protect him from himself", without one who'd lead him to Jesus you have a straight man straight to hell.
@@1jazzyphae he wasn't a kid when HE decide to mutilate his body...I save my love and compation for children in wars they didn't choose . He got what he deserve and paid for it
@@user-nc8hv7jb2mParents, and society GREATLY influence kids decisions. Believe it or not.
The fact that Shape has been through so much. The fact is that he is still here to tell his story.... It is an amazing representation of how strong he is. I hate that the medical industry is using people as an experiment... There is so much pain and blankness in his voice, but he is still speaking out to help and build awareness.
Sending love, compassion, and clarity to all people struggling finding themselves.
It feels like Blaire is one of the only people willing to give detransitioners a place to share their stories. It's sad that the alphabet community rejects them because it doesn't fit their narrative that they're trying to push. Absolutely disgusting, in fact. Thank you, Blaire, for allowing these people to freely share their stories. They need to be heard.
Edit: Thank you for the suggestions, definitely going to check them out. Apologies for the state of the reply section though, it's a bit of a mess 💀
Benjamin Boyce interviews a lot of detransitioners on his channel.
@@MarkVA71 so did Ariel s..I didn't spell her name right but she had shape shifter on there too..it's so nice seeing more people and especially trans people have destransitioners on
It's sadder because the lgbtq community promotes live and kindness and acceptance and the very people they should embrace they reject. They are truly a failure movement.
Shoutout to Blaire👏🏾
Blaire is one of the few people that I consider a rational T
I was called a transphobe for talking my closest friend out of getting bottom surgery. To this day he told me I was the only one that actully helped him when he was Trans instead of pushing him to do something he would regret.
@@patriciab696 Thanks. I appreciate it.
So is he trans or no?
i would try to talk them out of it as well. i have lost friends over domestic voilence so I guess this would be no different... Don't mutulate yourself.. You will regret it...
@@Trix4ever of course. are you?
Yes, surgeons get paid, BUT for the most part they perform these procedures because if they don’t they’re called transphobic & “cancelled”.
and threatened with lawsuits.
I am a heartbroken mum. One of my kids has decided to trans to a woman. I didn't ask them to not transition, but I did ask for them to hold off on legally changing their name because I wanted to be able to say goodbye to their name that we had chosen when they were born. Now I have been blocked - I can't call them, i cant email, i cant text, i cant send personal messages on Facebook. They say that I never ever loved them, that I never ever accepted them. I am so heartbroken
I've heard that script before; it sounds like what trans activists drill into a vulnerable person's mind to make sure they don't examine any self doubts about changing over 😕
You can be masculine or feminine without needing to identify as male or female. I think this is super important to understand!
What does "masculine" or "feminine" mean anyway? A woman doesn't have to wear makeup and high heels, a real woman can wear boots and love football. This gender identity stuff is all promoting stereotypes.
Completely!!!
I just wish people would care less about gender expression and allow non confirming people to wear what they like without feeling pressured to fully transition. Especially if you are non binary you might feel different from day to day and that’s ok too
Lame
Nah bro, we got rid of personality and temperament. Gender is everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!’
I feel so sorry for these people. I used to be a tomboy in the 90s, I can't imagine what could have happened to me if TikTok and all this crazy ideology had been around.
@August Miller I think they mean if they were a tomboy in the 90's with the same social influence as we have now, they could of possibly ended up thinking they were trans due to social media when really they were just a tom boy. I could be wrong though :')
Thank you! I was saying this with my family a week ago.. I was a tomboy, and jesus.. I remember thinking "being a guy would be so much funner, I'd be able to play with the boys and shit", then I forgot about that thought and grew into my hormones and my body and now I love being a woman. If I had tiktok literally grooming me into thinking I was trans I would of acted upon changing. It's a scary world. And when I have kids, they're not allowed any social media, because they will be just as impressionable as I was.
@@emilyward8910 I completely agree with everything you have said. When I was about 13-16 I was a tomboy but I used to follow a few tomboy youtubers who all came out as trans in the end. Due to this influence I thought that was the case with me. At the time I was overweight and boys were vile to me so I also thought being male would be easier as boys didn't want me but I had been asked out by several girls in the past. I'm glad I never made the transition because now that i'm 27, I am happy being a woman and actually enjoy it aside from periods haha :')
I don't pity them at all.
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I'm in tears ...I'm praying so hard ...wow the honesty is amazing and the truth needs to be heard
This was the saddest story. My heart breaks for every person that has been lied to. 😭
The medical industry ISN'T ALLOWED to have your best interest at heart. We're forced to affirm you or we lose our job/license! We're literally not allowed.
... and truly, my intention here isn't to be rude, but put yourself back in that chair at the doctor's office before you transitioned. Would you have been ok with or accepted it if the doctor told you not to go through with it? That there were other options? That no matter what you try to do, you'll never be the opposite sex?
Hindsight is 2020 (and we're going to have a whole lot more of that going forward) but at the moment, it's radical trans people and their incredibly radical allies that are causing medical professionals to fear telling you the truth. They've got us by the balls, metaphorically speaking. This is society now and until a whole lot more of you start speaking out (total respect to you for doing just that) nothing will change. It's only going to get way worse before it gets better.
This right here. So many don't realize this.
This!!!
Yeah and being 500 pounds is healthy if the doctor tells them otherwise they're fat phobic
Can you elaborate more on this?
His chuckle is actually heartbreaking because it’s him trying not to cry, it sounds like.
This was fascinating and so tragic. Thank you so much for reasoning awareness about this issue and helping me to understand it better. I wish Shape peace 🙏🏼😥❤️
So brave to share that testimony. It will help many! ❤
Detransitioners should never be silenced. This is what happens when there is no gate keeping. Keep them gates closed to those who aren’t transsexual. There’s a reason why there is (or was) criteria for medical transition. To stop transition regret. Thanks Blair for this video, very emotional but important to talk about this
There is no gatekeeping in the UK or at least I was an obvious patient that needed the treatment, I got it very swiftly when the 5 year waiting time was up. I even have surgery scheduled within a year or so on T. They think because you waited so long you really know, but in other aspects it's mostly not even trans people on the list waiting because they are confused, making the system struggle and those who are serious have to wait even longer
As well no gate keeper in Switzerland, otherwise called as transphobic.
@Anon Name Exactly. I've watched a lot of detransitioners on YT. You can essentialy boil it down to red flags:
1.) Avoided therapy like a plague
2.) Found the shortest, quickest route to HRT/surgery
3.) Lied to few remaining gate keepers there are to get approved
4.) wHy DiD nObOdY sToP mE?! :(
I'm sorry. I feel your pain. I'm sympathetic. But you don't get to play a victim of "criminal cabal of surgeons" if you as an sui iuris adult lied in order to advance quickly. Take it slow, take your time and start good therapy atleast as soon as you start HRT. Preferably before. IMHO.
can you believe ppl get off virtue signaling about supporting children transitioning or getting on puberty blockers and will NOT acknowledge this MAJOR problem...this is permanent body change that could ruin their lives...
Yep. Now they do nothing.
“Sometimes the bitter truth is better than a sweet lie”
Always
so true
Sweet lie is necessary sometimes depends on the scenario, but it's not healthy doing it often.
it is but even when given both most ppl chose the sweet lie. :/
@@Keke_Poutri yah. But time and time again, the sweet lie will someday bite you in the A...
THE BEST VIDEO you have ever put together. This person is being very brave and vulnerable telling his story. You can tell he is carrying a lot of pain
One of my favorite interviews. Prayers lifted over this beautiful soul 🙏
“Sometimes the bitter truth is better than a sweet lie” 👏
Amen
I have worked in this field of medicine and an advice that we can't say to many trans patients is that "surgery won't fix your internal problems that you're trying to escape from", I wish we can say it's a delusion but you'll get offended so we let you believe the lie and treat you as a business transaction
@@e3mel5eer83 I wouldn't give a fuq about them getting offended, I would tell them the truth and then they probably wouldn't do it and that would be a good thing.
@@MasterOfTheElements Your truth not the truth
@@kateofone No, my truth is the objective truth, you can't change your biological sex only it's secondary characteristics and they don't function the same as the real thing.
In 15 years we will call this what it is. The greatest medical scandal of all time. My heart breaks for this lovely human being.
There are many medical scandals going on simultaneously.
That's the best picture i've seen, it made me happy.
Me too 😢
yeah, it will be a chaos.
Thank you❤️ What Compassion. That’s what these people need.
Thank you for coming forward. People like you speaking up for our children will save the next generation.
Heal the trauma and stop the mutilation. God Bless
Thank you for your honest story that will help educate others to be better prepared and be careful what they do to their bodies.
Powerful words “nobody protected me from myself.” People think pushing back means trying to control. But it really means slowing down and thinking about long term consequences. Clarifying and solidifying what you believe so you can take ownership of choices so as to not be victimized by people who don’t care and would harm you for their profit.
Prayers of comfort and continued recovery for him.
Well-said!
As parents we know that we have to protect our children from themselves. Why do these doctors and surgeons not protect these children from themselves. They dish out puberty blockers to people's who's brains haven't developed anymore than their bodies have.
that part had me in tears instantly. I am not a crier, either.
That is a parents job, to as much as possible protect their child(ren) from their own self, at the same time teaching them how to look at all sides of a decision. It's what is so scary about these parents pushing for their young kids to change their outside instead of focusing on healing the inside, and counseling to find out where the desire to look different is really coming from. Maybe it's bc it would be revealed that they are causing emotional trauma to their child. I pray for the internal healing of all.
Human vipers lure with kind words & comfort.
As a psychiatrist, I treated patients with gender dysphoria. Because I consulted to continue therapy, was anti GAS surgical procedures, was against hormone treatment for underage (18) - I was FIRED by my hospital. I continue in a private practice. First thing you should understand, hospitals make a lot of money on trans procedures, post op, and especially on drugs because we get financial incentives from Pharma corps. This is a very lucrative business, they donate & target specifically the education committees/unions, entertainment industry and pay for many of the trans surveys. Once you transition, your a client for LIFE$. What happened to self-love? Embracing your individuality? You do not need to physically alter yourself to become happy, that you must find within.
Thank you for speaking on this
Okay I'm 18 years old but I do agree with the hormonal treatment for under age 18 like you shouldn't give that to someone who was under the age of 18 I agree with you let kids be kids untill there is an adult ready to make an adult decision
A big hug to you, doctor ❤
Can you force someone to have surgery?
Thank you for at least trying to protect the children... We need more professionals to STAND UP TOO...
My goodness….. I just want to give you the biggest, most meaningful, unconditional, love-filled hug right now. And never let go. My heart cracked when you said that you wish your parents knew enough to protect you from yourself. I wish that for you too & I truly wish for a brighter more fulfilling future for you too.
Love from CT ❤
You just expressed my feelings perfectly. Thank you!
Thank you so much for telling the truth about all this! ❤
Matt Walsh said after he released his documentary “What is a Woman” that one of the doctors that he interviews in his movie had cut off the genitals of a 16 year old boy. How is a child able to even make these decisions that are life altering, including never being able to produce children after that. What child even knows if he wants kids later in life? It is heartbreaking what is happening to kids by these doctors. And like he said, they need more time to process any childhood traumas, and get a “hug”, and it’s okay to be feminine, or a tomb boy.
It’s really disgusting. We have age regulations about tattoos, cigarettes, alcohol because we don’t trust young people to make those decisions but sterilization and removing your biological sex organs is fine. I can’t believe we are here as a society.
The 16 year old name is Jazz. And TLC has an entire reality show based on Jazz. And how horrible and terrible the surgery went.
I think that might have been Jazz "I am Jazz" has her journey as a show.
They promoted her as a happy trams as a child but now she is struggling with binge eating, mental health.
She is in the position now where she wpuld not even be able to say if she wished she didnt transition.
@@bubbytumby8509 that Jazz kid is already in it's 20s what makes you think the Jazz was that DRs patient?
@@jasonrodriguez8569 it's known Jazz was their patient
One of the first things they taught us in nursing school is that the body wants to close any holes that aren’t biologically made. And is VERY good at it. I never thought about it in this context, but it makes a lot of sense, and raises many questions on the medical aspect of how safe it is actually.
I knew that without even being a nurse. That's one argument I make for sex reassignment surgery. You are literally fighting your own body and will have to do that every day for the rest of your life. Think about that for a moment. Normal every day people wrestle with their own minds about reasons to NOT get a surgery for normal medical conditions because we know that ALL surgery is risky. Surgery is always the LAST resort and the only choice at the end. When we go under anasthetic we tell our loved ones that we love them and we say a little prayer to ourselves because we HOPE we wake up!!! Ugh! People are duped and scammed into this experimental lifestyle. There is no historical data to backup the long term safety and consequences of all these procedures, chemical or sugical.
The "hole" that is made is not like that. I've had SRS done by a good surgeon. While when done badly it can go as wrong as Shape Shifters it's not always that way. IF the surgeon did the job right it's not a "hole" bloody and scabby ans scaring over or whatever. If the surgeon does the job right it is basically a pocket of skin, made right where the vagina would be. Diallating is then to strech the muscles so that you can you know ... use it.
Any surgery can be done badly.
@@HontasFarmer80 Dilating is done to keep the hole open, like the nurse said the body will always fight to close it. They will have to dilate their whole life or their neovagina will lose depth and close.
@@HontasFarmer80 no they do that so it doesn’t close up
@@valen9941 this is not true. Once it is healed you do not need to do the dilation anymore. It's not like it stays an open wound forever. Come on now. 🤦♂️
This is a very interesting interview. Thank you for being open to talking about it. I feel that as a society we are too surgery focused.
Thank you for this very particular conversation we all need to be educated with. No more fights or controversy should surround this area of medicine. The medical field is broad yet doctors and hospitals practice bottom line dollar amounts only. Great point of men doing these surgery who are doctors, they have lost the long term dedication doctors had once upon a time when medicine and science was inventive with introducing other medical partners to be cautious of how to perform the respected profession. Again, thank you both for a great open conversation that is very needed, learning is part of education, and all of us need an education.
If someone has every right to tell their story of their successful transition, then these people also have every right to tell their story of their painful de-transition. This person is very strong for what they have went through and to be able to talk about this publicly.
More detransitioners need to speak up so those think they are trans but are not can realise it's a mistake
Exactly
This doesn't even need to be a de-transition story per se. The message should be just say no to bottom surgery whether you want to live as a woman or not.
I've said your words almost verbatim. I occasionally share detransitioning stories because of exactly that. How can people make an actual informed choice when the other side of the coin is rarely, if ever, heard? As well as when they are, they are most often demonized and hated within the trans world. Body dysmporphia is real, but not nearly on the scale we are seeing it. It's truly sad and disheartening what we're seeing happen to people.
@@Skeptique True
I was close to medically transitioning in 2014-2015. It was too easy to get on hormones. Scarily easy. When I decided not to medically transition (for a myriad of reasons), the therapist kept pushing for it. The fact that the therapist kept veering the subject to transitioning instead of other issues I wanted to talk about at the time made me feel really uncomfortable and raised a huge red flag.
I'm sorry Shapeshifter that you had to go through this.
I'm so glad you recognized that and didn't let them push you to medically transition.
Question: is it possible that the therapists get a 'commission' from the surgeons for sending patients their way?
@@melhawk1352 oh I wouldn’t doubt it in todays society in the United States
Shame on that therapist
@Live Light, might i ask, was this in America?
I really hope that more people come forward with their experiences. I do agree, more research should be done about this and people shouldn't be pushed into surgery
It's the doctors. Their first priority is supposed to be, "Do no harm." This person has obviously been harmed. None of the doctors thought to say, "Maybe get a little therapy first, see where that goes. Then you can decide what's best for you." I think it's a crime, and he should sue for malpractice. Any other unneeded surgery a doctor performed on someone would be considered malpractice.
It was only a year or two ago they were threatening to sue doctors who refused this surgery. can't have it both ways
“It was not a fair trade at all.”
“I made a huge mistake.”
This is heartbreaking.
"Gender affirming 'care'"
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 for the large majority of people yes
Detransitioners make up from under 1 percent to 8 percent of the transgender population
And reasons for detransition are plenty
And some of them still identify as trans
I am a LTC nurse and just cared for someone who tried to transition man to woman, threw a pulmonary embolism, and ended up having both legs amputated. I’ve never been madder about the medical field than I am right now. My profession has been hijacked. I’m so sorry for what happened to you.
Edit: This person didn’t have surgery. They just went on hormones. Hormones that the doctor told them would be safe for them. They also began sweating constantly afterwards and their back became a giant sore. I don’t talk out of my ass. But clearly y’all do. I’m not arguing that there is not personal responsibility, but if you’re not being told the risks associated with something, or if we don’t know the risks but say we do….. there’s another word for that. Lying.
He/she decided, sorry!
😢😢😢😢
Omg... That's.... 😢😢😢😢😢
Do you know how they got a pulmonary embolism?
Do no harm right?
Thank you for the compassionate interview and the insights gained from it. I find sadly though that the lessons learned here could only come from the experience as it occurred. He said himself that he didn’t listen to his parents. I find it hard to believe that if a doctor tried to talk him out of transitioning; at the time he would have called the doctor a transphobe and searched out the same affirming care doctors that he now realizes are doing harm. Hopefully a lot of people struggling with gender identity see this and the lesson sinks in for them before it’s too late. I feel for this person deeply and hope they are able to find happiness.
This episode was soooo good! ThNk you so much for sharing your experience 🙏🏽
Surgeons and regular MD’s don’t care about most people let alone a trans person. I fought with a GI doctor for 3 months telling him I needed other tests besides a colonoscopy. I found out after the 3rd month that I had stage four ovarian cancer. God help us all especially the kids.
Yes the medical establishment is awful. What about your prognosis and health care modalities now?
I'm so sorry this happened to you.
Praying for you. Hoping you have a safe recovery.
That's awful. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you are ok now. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
I'm very very firm with my husband's Dr
We are the boss
He works for us
We are not idiots
Sadly, he is the “research” and the “experiment.” It’s awful. My heart goes out to him. Brave to share this message- thank you for your vulnerability.
He is the experiment but sadly they do not care to use him as research.
Indeed. This is heart wrenching. All we can do is pray to God that he / she stay strong and keep creating the awareness for this subject matters. I’ll pray to Allah for him and all of us to be saved and blessed with good life in this world and hereafter. Amen
nothing brave about being mentally ill
THIS INTERVIEW TELLS US EXACTLY THE AGENDA GOING ON ruclips.net/video/EOy98HRUigA/видео.html
ITS AWFUL
As someone who never questioned my gender it is even harder for me to understand how non-trans people can be so confused about their gender that they get actual operations. Maybe the default should be to think of yourself just as a human and not in concepts of gender anyway, maybe then people don't assume they have to act in a certain way to conform to whatever stereotypes they imagine.
Society tries to set a ton of arbitrary limits to who you're allowed to be and how you're allowed to self express based on whatever body you're born into. Every single person who enforces ideas like "men can't do this" or "women can't do that" is to blame, doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum it's coming from. We need to give people the freedom to self express how they choose without having to adopt a specific gender identity, and not ostracize them for it. Let boys be feminine, let girls be masculine, don't tell them their gender prevents them from being who they want to be.
@@DrBuffaloBalls Exactly!
Sad af and I appreciate you being vulnerable and sharing your story. A reminder to show kindness when talking to people dealing with these feelings. So easy to dismiss them all as a group because of a loud subset that is angry and aggressive, but like him, they are just kids and scared, trying to figure this game out. Caring interactions take place in small groups. Reminds me that there are some ultra-wealthy elites that give no fs as long as you pay them to tell you what you want to hear and for the surgery. What a world.
"You don't have the technology to make an actual woman"
PERIOD!!
Even the developed surgeries it's impossible to make an actual woman
@@hamistra1259 And even if one could biologically transform into a woman, you still wouldn't have the same experiences as a normal woman.
@@aliasella488 yes that's trueee
If we did wouldn't this be able to cure down syndrome since iirc it's the result of having more than 2 chromosomes?
One day we will, but not today unfortunately.
“And it’s pretty bad… and my story isn’t as bad… they have it worse”…. Wow. The compassion Shapeshifter can show for others while going through his own pain. That is empathy.
Absolutely true.
I know this is an older video but I just saw it. I am a biological female and often fear speaking my thoughts but feel like I can safely express them here. First, thank you ShapeShifter for your honesty and your amazing bravery in telling it. I'm sorry we, as society, have failed you. You mentioned more research should be done (a year later and I don't think that has been done) but research on women's health, in general, is very lacking. For years medications were only studied on men and then physicians were told to just decrease the dose for women. Or that it was too hard to study women because our hormones made it too complicated. So I don't hold much hope in the medical community doing much research, especially on male-to-female transition and hormones and such. I am a middle-aged genetic female who is finished having children and I was not allowed to have my reproductive system removed until a physician deemed it medical necessity ( for reasons such as fibroids or cysts and even then they must be growing, changing or causing severe issues.) And if you are under 40, forget about even that most of the time. So I don't understand why we are allowing young people, and now KIDS to make a decision of this magnitude so lightly. Again, thank you for being honest about your experience. I hope that our society will wake up and see the damage we are doing to people with our rose colored descriptions of life after surgeries and hormones. You can change everything about yourself outwardly ,but what makes you YOU, which includes our demons and fears and traumas, don't go away because you removed a part of your body. Mental health issues cannot be corrected by anesthesia and surgery, and those actions can often exacerbate the very things we are running from. You are beautiful! Not because of your hair or nails or breasts....but because you are a human and your heart is full of love for others, shown by your brave statements to help others avoid the pain you have experienced. Thank you!!! And thank you Blair for being so open to showing the darker side of your community. You are also beautiful, in part, because of the truths you speak. ❤️
Blaire is about the only transgender that's so truthful and willing to talk about hard issues. I respect her for fighting the battle especially with children young teens and young adults.
When I transition and had bottom surgery over 25 years ago there was a lot of checks done to see if this was the correct path as like you say it is irreversible. Looking at what is happening now is so sad, very young people are being 'experimented' on by the medical professionals. This is driven by need that if they refuse they will be seen as transphobic. This has to stop now before more lives are ruined.
Can u pee without pain ,or having sexual pleasure ?sorry for the question
@@hutao.h1258 No problem. Peeing is fine. Organise is possible as part of the Penis is used to make a clitoris. Sex has not worked as it is quite small inside and very tight.
And then those same people accusing you of being "transphobic" will show up at your house, job, follow you across the Internet, etc. Happened to me over the whole Laineybot/Kai thing.
@@hollyhayes9640 I was actually wondering what happened to her, is there any recent news?
@@hutao.h1258 why the question?
My niece had quite a difficult puberty. She hated developing breasts and said she wanted to cut them off. All the women in the family supported her, told her it was normal, and helped her through it. It saddens me that if she had gone through it today, some surgeon would have popped up and said ‘I can help with that……’
plastic surgeons are just............... you gotta be careful around them.
Funny fact: I'm 100% a cis woman, I never ever ever had feelings about transicioning, no issues with my gender, NOTHING, I'm actually very comfortable being a woman. But when I was 11-12 and I started developing my breasts, I HATED THEM......because that meant I had to wear a bra and bras are so uncomfortable.... I mean, with time you get used to it. But imagine living 11 years of your life chest free and suddenly, you gotta wear that everyday to school. I also live in a hot area so, bras are hot and make you sweat. I HATED IT. I would go back from school and take it off for the rest of the day. It's just normal puberty issues, you know.... accepting your new adult body takes time....and that doesnt mean I wanted to be a boy or anything.
We need to stop the "I WANT EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW" culture and allow ourselves to take time to process our emotions!!!!
Chest actually hurts when it develops, its very uncomfortable and also the teenagers have hormonal swings that make them act idiotic. Don't listen to teenagers if they aren't telling you facts.
@@haruno21i remember also absolutely hating my boobs.... i developped very early and was so ashamed to be the only one with boobs. i hated having my period.
@@haruno21 I never, ever hated my boobs. I was happy when I started to develop. @ 10 yrs old, my best friend at the time and I would talk about how we wanted them to be big. They are a gift...just like the penis is a gift to a man. Menstruation, on the other hand, well.... lets just say it was an inconvenience for me.
When you are a teenager you breast is not finished. It can evolve till around 30 years old and of course if you gain weight. I hated my breast when I was a teenager and nobody told me that it was just the beginning of my development. I thought about plastic surgery. Today Iam very happy that I didnt do anything
This is just awful. I’m thankful for both of you for sharing this story. This needs to be shared across the world
Thank you for sharing powerful Testimony and telling us the TRUTH
And they called us "phobic" for trying to stop "doctors" from doing this to people...well, the people that pushed these individuals to go through with this need to be brought to justice.
That's barbaric, these procedures are worse than some of the heavier methods of torture, but we are the bad guys for trying to stop it.
Most trans people don’t detransition and they deserve this gender affirming health care
Exactly
There are people who want to prevent doctors from helping people who REALLY want this and really NEED this from getting it as well. They're definitely transphobic. There are a lot of people who are content with their surgical reassignments.
@@iamcornholiooooo3019 nobody needs this. It's mutilation. These doctors aren't trying to help these people, they're using them as guinea pigs, and you're either completely disingenuous, you're trolling, or you're one of the people enabling this shit so you can virtue signal like a narcissist. Etiher way, you're part of the problem
i started transitioning when i was 13, and grew out of it and changed my mind after a few years. im so thankful i didn't do permanent damage while i had these ideas, and there needs to be so much more awareness about detransitioners.
You got lucky!! Thank goodness you stayed safe
You HAVE to speak out. Your voice will save lives. Your voice is the only voice that can save a lot of these lives, because everyone who hasn't been where you've been is being silenced. Speak out and don't let them silence you!
13!!! In US? Who allowed you to do it? ((( sorry for it…
Hey Melina, I am trying to come up w a podcast that features stories like yours. Would you be interested? It can be anonymous
@@nairobae would love to
There does need to be more conversations about results and medical issues. Ty for sharing. Best to you.
Thank you for speaking out this message was for sure powerful. Thank you again
We need more people in the LGBTQ community to say: “It is ok to present how you feel about yourself without surgery or hormones.” Honestly, I never understood these doctors. The first thing for doctors is to “do no harm.” Shape Shifter was harmed by his doctors and left to pick up the pieces.
Doctors so quickly and easily abort near-term "fetuses" (fully developed babies). This was next. And now what?
Most doctors only care about money!
Yes. The doctors that harmed still doing surgeries every week and harming others.
This is a new wave this wasn’t pushed in the old school lgbtq community. So sad this has to be such a difficult thing to experience
Literally everyone says it...
All these de- trans people say they wish someone hugged them & told them they were loved.. it breaks my heart. If ur a parent please be more present in ur kids life show them love. Be emotional available for ur kids. So many kids when they become adults have trauma because parents weren’t emotionally there for their kids.
During that time when you try to tell them this isn't good for you most of the time they don't listen. Until they were at a point like this. From what he's saying no one even tried to tell him
He said she was warned, but he chose not to listen.
I know a trans man who’s always ragging on his mom and talking about how she never loved him and she is ALWAYS there when he calls. Like for anything and when he’s in a bind she’s always helping as much as she can. Sometimes people are addicted to just being the victim and using things not going their way all the time as an excuse to do whatever they wanted to anyway.
They do get that . Just not in the way that they accept . Because of them wanting to be different .
I think it's important to teach kids , to understand people won't understand, and they don't have to, but we should all try to. It's ok to not be ok but we HAVE try to be ok.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. So many children are being convinced they can change their sex like changing their Sox.
Please don’t stop 🙏🏼
Blaire you are so amazing and you are saving people from hating themselves! Your helping people to love who/ what they are❤
We need more people to talk about the negative side effects of transitioning. It is incredibly important to tell medical professionals what your biological situation is. It makes a huge difference in diagnosing issues. It's making an assumption without having all the variables. People seem to think in terms of "What's good for the goose, is good for the gander." That's not always the case. The doctors are becoming more money driven when it comes to optional trans surgery. Doctors and hardcore trans activists are the same as a salesman: they're not gonna try to talk you out of a sale.
Most of the problem comes from activists and plastic surgeons getting in the way for personal gain.
We lack the technology to actually make this procedure safe. And nowadays there's no more research.
Exactly!
Definitely!
I agree Rene. These kinds of Doctors are slimy.
The problem is once you tell your doctor that you feel you may be trans you are constantly affirmed to be so and the therapy, meds and surgery are pushed on you. There is no let's find out if you are for sure just Affirmation Therapists pushing an agenda. There are trans obviously but FFS let's not push it on people.
This message is for ShapeShifter. PLEASE DON"T off yourself! I can't imagine how though this is for you, but your life is worth far too much for you to end it. My heart goes out to you, and I will be praying for you.
Shape shifter is probably one of the most important detransitioner advocates out there. He went through the full thing and is incredibly knowledgeable. Losing him would make a huge dent in the movement. Very important to this world.
I will be Praying to Lord Satan
I am trying to stay strong. Suicidal thoughts is something I struggle with but I see therapist every week.
@@shifterofshape I’m praying for you also. We need you!
Same! My heart hurts for ShapeShifter and what a completely beautiful soul. This is why I don't treat anyone with different views than myself differently than I want to be treated. You never know what they are going through, have been through, and if they really just need some kindness and love from someone.
U are so brave to share your story..I wish u so much health and happiness
Very good interview! Thank you so much for this :)
You can see how traumatized he/she is. Every time he/she tries to chuckle a laugh, it comes out as misery.
@@jesuspower2390 thats not nice .. meany
@@macalister8881 there are southand out there some just happened in Qatar in world cup they keep pushing to influence the younger generation to do the same dirty thing... they deserve it
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He* he is a he there for call him he lol
@@jesuspower2390 i made a comment 1 day when i was over medicated and i guess it was not good as u boob gave me a susspension ouch ... now i know better as it was just a question about reattachment of something i wanted to be ........................................................................................................................................ about that in length as it was a serious question ... guess i will never know ..
It’s not transphobic to say you regret your cosmetic surgeries. My heart hurts for you. Please talk about this, it’s so important to prevent anyone else suffering the same issues. You were born in your body, love it , don’t hurt it. ❤️
Its not trans phobic because "trans" doesn't exist. Its all a fad. You can't change ur gender end of story.
YES!
His laugh to unsuccessfully mask his intense pain/sadness is so heartbreaking each time he does it. To grieve the loss of yourself due to actions you believed to be right has to be so profoundly confusing. How devastating 💔
Your strength is a gift you can share with the world. You have a beautiful opportunity to help so many others help themselves by sharing your experience. I appreciate your story and am grateful for the understanding! ❤
I was born without vagina, cervix and a uterus. I’m a genetic female, I have working ovaries. My condition is called MRKH, and it falls under the intersex umbrella.
I had a neo vagina surgery 15 years ago. It left me with a dysfunctional vagina, and I’m still dealing with. Scarring is the problem. From what I know the success rate of such surgeries is quite low. I keep telling this to people but no one is listening.
Jesus, that sucks.
😔
@Anya I am so sorry to hear that 😢🙏 PLEASE try to get on podcasts and on Videos to share your story, so that we can SHARE AND WARN 🙏😢
So did you have a penis…🤷🏿♀️ honest inquiry….I mean had a brother who was transexual…but still very much a boy…so I wonder how that works in your situation….
But you telling it, is important. I'm sorry but you're a true warrior and Survivor to come out and say it, to save others from the same thing! 💜 truly a hero for that. I hope you aren't in pain. ...is my main hope for you.
It’s “funny” that she makes the point that you can choose your own treatment plan with transitioning yet it is like pulling teeth to get my doctor to order blood work or ct scans for routine medical concerns I have, as if I will break the entire system by getting a thyroid test.
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Yep! It's also horrendously difficult getting therapy/counseling and medication for depression. I desperately needed it...my insurance didn't cover it... and they overcharged for blood work.
You have to be near death to get blood work done…
I’m perimenopause and need my hormones replaced. I’ve had to go private and pay a lot to be heard and given the hormones I needed. I was dismissed and told its what happens at your age. Doesn’t mean I have to put up with it.
Exactly, great point and yes, it's just insanity 🤦
BTW...go to a naturalpath doctor and ask for referrals for the tests you would like to do; most times you have to pay for it yourself but perhaps your insurance will cover some of it 🤷
Thank you for sharing this with the world
Thank you for being so brave and sharing your story.
My friend had surgery and committed suicide in June of 2021. All she wanted was to be loved. She was delusional and actually believed that at some point she could have babies. We would argue when I told her that physically that could never happen. I felt her problems were more mental but her so called therapist never addressed this and only confirmed her identity as a woman. I believe the truth crept up on her and ultimately she could not go back. They mutilated her and did nothing to help her after the surgery was botched. I miss my friend.
I know this is probably a painful question but do you have any evidence of this? I'm currently trying to collect as much info against transitioning to try and talk a close friend of mine out of this insanity and getting info from people who suffered and regretted it would help.
Not trying to be cruel or bring up a bad memory but I don't want someone I love to suffer the same way.
I also had a trans friend that tought she could make babies in a few years
Botched? It wasnt botched. The entire surgery is butchery. They're being butchered.
Thetapist cant deny anyone their identity, if they do they lose their job... they should do that though..
So sad to hear that, my heartfelt condolences sorry for the loss.
"I 100% feel like I was part of a cruel medical and social experiment."
You were... that's exactly what's happening to these people. And it's really disturbing. I feel so bad for him. I honestly hope that some of the people in the medical field face jail time for what they done to these kids. It's evil.
They shouldn’t face jail time for doing their jobs. The laws are the problem, not the surgeons
And the parents are the problem for the children to allow them to suffer like this
Did someone force him?
No stop with all that.
@@markanthonytavaries5031 no
Appreciate your bravery, Shape💜
You are a beautiful soul. I am so sorry you are going through this but I hope you can find some comfort in knowing you are helping others.
You are priceless, there isn’t another person like you and you are irreplaceable. Stay strong, keep fighting, you are worth it.
“They didn’t protect me from myself”….. and yet had they tried to even have that conversation, they would have been crucified as hate filled trans-phobes!! Parents are now fighting for the right to do that very thing! Why are we telling children their bodies are “wrong”!!!! Bodies are a miracle!! All of them! Present however you feel but your body is precious and sacred!!This is heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing
This is what i thought might happen if we try to tell the people that convinced they are trans. And they might do it behind their parents back anyway.
Recent case where a father fighting for custody of his child, changed his legal gender to female and claimed the child needed a mother's love.
Dude won custody. The system is broken so some men are just using the insanity to their advantage. Guy looks likes your typical 40yo dude....until 'she' presents any legal documents. 😂
@@Davitofrito have to say...this is a reason that is good enough to go through all that trouble
@@Davitofrito Dad: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move.
Yeh people have to get to shit before they understand. She would have crucified the person who stepped up, and that person's life would have been ruined! That's why they can't say anything to them.
He comes across as such a sweet soul, trying to smile through the pain, really sorry he went through this
Cutest laugh too
This is just so tragic - and there's no way back.....people considering this surgery should be given all the information......💜