Detrans Awareness Day Panel Discussion With Detransitioners For 'No Way Back 'Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2023
- Watch the first ever Q&A panel discussion with 7 detransitioners filmed on De-trans Awareness Day 2023. 7 Detransitioners speak publicly and answer questions from the audience at a film screening of the documentary No Way Back: The Realities of Gender Affirming Care.
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The panel discusses the medical ethics of the gender affirmation model of care for gender dysphoria, and the untold harm personally endured by notable detransitioners Chloe Cole, Laura Becker, Luka Hein, Brian Wagner, Estella Suarez-Hamilton, and Shapeshifter.
The panel answers questions from concerned parents about the relationship between gender distress, social contagion, trauma, and familial relationships, and panelists give advice about maintaining and repairing relationships with children and loved ones who are experiencing identity issues.
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Thank YOU SO much. I'm a mother trying to get my daughter healthy.
What is the documentary?
@Nena,"AFFIRMATION GENERATION" documentary
@@debrawalker2035 I'm a dad with a daughter who told me last year she wants to be a boy
The real purpose of the trnagender movement is to mutilate all gay and lesbian children by brainwashing them into believing that they were born into the wrong body,
detransition will skyrocket in a decade
In the name of Jesus and by His grace, may it be.
💯
100%agree
I hope so and I hope it never happens again! the devil just wants to keep destroying mankind.
So we'll all the lawsuits for allowing it to happen.
"after was finding a psychologist who wasn’t an activist." is EVERYTHING
❤
Wolves in sheep clothing
YES!!!
Correct: most psychologists are activists or at the very least sympathizers with the lgbtq community.
Haven't they (in some states) made it so difficult for therapists to NOT support the kid's sex change desires that they fear they get sued for 'failure to provide assistance? If I remember correctly, some therapists who tried to show the kids other ways of coping with gender disphoria got accused of doing the same as religious people doing the 'pray the gay away'-therapy.I forgot the right word for it.Converaiin therapy?!
Only saying “yes” is not an act of love, it’s enabling.” Wow. A whole generation of parents need to hear this.
Thank you for your compassion. It’s important to spread awareness on the medical harm happening to children and young people. Check out my detransition advocacy campaign to read about my gender story and learn how you can make a meaningful difference on this complex issue. Click on the description of this video to find the link to watch the documentary, and assist my fight to protect vulnerable patients from the gender industry.
@@LauraBeckerReal
" ....the medical industry "...
Keep the "customer "
coming back....😢
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"Love is keeping someone safe even if they are upset with you for it." She is spot on.
These doctors should all be put in jail for mutilation of minors.
Uuuuhhhh naw.
Nobody forced them to do this. They made the choice along with their families. Stop being emotional.
They weren’t forced, but manipulated into thinking their child would commit suicide if not allowed to change genders. That’s pretty evil, especially since the high suicide rates consist of transitioned transgenders who suddenly realize they were sold an empty promise, that they feel the same or worse from before they started transitioning, and they despair when they realize there is no hope for returning to their natural state - that their bodies have been permanently damaged. :(
Yess !! This is a crime
For the rest of their lifes.
Absolutely!!!
"afirming them and only saying yes, is not a act of love"
False!
You're in denial gtfo
Any decent psychologist will say the same. Saying Yes is easier, but you don’t do what’s easier for you when you love someone, you do what’s better for that person, especially if that person is your child.
@@janetubides6136 sadist
Thank you! Sometimes a child needs to hear no and the reasons why too. That's a Parent's role, to guide their inexperienced minor child, in the best way acvording to their moral values, traditions & culture until that child reaches adulthood where they can take the baton and make adult choices for themselves.
As a nurse, the irreversible consequences of the use of hormones in healthy people, sterilization and mutilating surgery is so upsetting to watch.
Thank you for your compassion. It’s important to spread awareness on the medical harm happening to children and young people. Check out my detransition advocacy campaign to read about my gender story and learn how you can make a meaningful difference on this complex issue. Click on the description of this video to find the link to watch the documentary, and assist my fight to protect vulnerable patients from the gender industry.
I will definitely support you.
I've had gender dysphoria for a lot of my life, but thankfully never indulged in the idea that I might actually be trans. I knew I was a woman and that's what I would be stuck with even if I felt inside much differently. I am almost obsessed with listening to the detransition stories nowadays because it has really helped me work through a lot of my dysphoria and helped me see the truth of the matter. I'm really grateful for the people who have come out and shared their stories even through all the stuff they had to go through.
We need to promote and embrace feminine males and a masculine females rather than pushing young adults into transitioning.
Not promoted, but accepted.
@@sharkboy6952 true, maybe “promote” is too strong of a word. I’m just thinking that trans activists won’t listen to the other side unless we “cater” to them by using ideas they may more readily accept.
Making masculine women and feminine males more widely accepted/acknowledged is the main point.
Women/men fall on a spectrum from hypermasculine to hypomasculine (and vice versa for women) and that’s okay.
To be honest, I don’t actually have much hope that trans activists will listen to ANYONE but themselves anyway. They are unlikely to consider different perspectives or ways of addressing gender identity issues.
Schools, the government or state institutions generally shouldn’t be involved with gender ideology to begin with. They are paid through taxpayers and hence need to stay unbiased and neutral. Of course, schools/universities can mention that gender dysphoria exists - the problem right now is the value judgements attached to their teaching. It’s extremely disturbing that so many of our institutions are failing us in this regard. Their job is to impart knowledge, not infuse it with their own bias or use schools/universities as vehicles for activism! Apparently they don’t understand what their actual job/purpose is!
Discussing topics like transgenderism at any depth should exclusively be “the job” of the family, social support systems (friends/relatives) and (non-activist) mental health professionals.
@@k.s783 promotion is the correct term imo.
Books in schools activites everywhere I would suggest brainwashing would be another acceptable term.
@@k.s783 Well said!
I think we always have it’s when boundaries are crossed that there is a problem, but that’s just life.
The fact the trans community shuns these people is disgusting. They are a part of that community whether you like it or not and acknowledging transitioning isn't for everyone is so critical to prevent suffering. Their stories would help those struggling with their identity just as much as the stories of people who stay transitioned.
"Their stories would help those struggling with their identity "
"Detransitioning" is an insult to the trans community because they need a flawless narrative to use against people that do not take them seriously. Depending on a narrative instead of ones self is not an act of empowerment.
Nope! The trans community is against the rampant transphobia that surrounds detransitioners.
Trans rights is human rights, right? Their whole agenda is hypocrisy and one sided
Very disgusting, because the trans people have an angle they want everyone to approve of them, since it is a childlike mentality, they want their way.
Anyone who disagrees... Well some of them will go further than others.
“Got to see a psychologist who wasn’t an activist” …there you have it. This is quite heart-breaking. I hope they all have healing and peace.
My daughter came to me telling me she was transgender (12 years). I told her not to be so quick to label herself, and that she can like what she likes without attaching labels. I’m not trying to dismiss those with genuine issues, but I feel like this has snowballed into a cultish following. Again, not dismissing anyone. Someone will find offense in this I’m sure, but the main point of what I’m saying is just to teach the younger generations to love unconditionally, that emotions are very fleeting and therefore should never be used to make choices that may have a large scale impact on their lives.
I just wanted to add my daughter is now 13 and told me she doesn’t think she is trans anymore. And got very embarrassed when I asked her what she meant, and how she felt about it, and what made her come to that conclusion. She just said I don’t want to say this out loud but you were right mom.
Please speak to your children and encourage open communication and emotional intelligence.
Parenting is issue, how 13 children have stance such life decision. The west instead of promoting this new genocide on other civilization it higher time to learn parenting from those civilization. Lowyers in west take heath practitioner on trans to justice. This is genocide of human race. Whipping families from planet earth is ungodly.
You're allowed to dismiss people you know. You're allowed to judge. To make criticisms. You're allowed to be intolerant of what shouldn't be tolerated. I'm not going to draw any specific lines but certainly you wouldn't be afraid to disrespect or criticize or judge... F'ing Hitler? Right? So obviously there are some people and some things and certain practices that SHOULD be criticized. Don't buy into the newfound popular relativistic notion that all decisions and all people and all things deserve equal respect. It's simply not true. Once you accept that ANYONE deserves censure (Hitler) then you accept the need to decide such things for yourself on a case by case basis.
@@GodfreyOsward Seriously, proof read before posting, and take a writing class.
What’s happening? There is a LOT of money to be made in the trans medical industry. Think about it!
As a mom of a de-trans I want you all to know how brave you are to speak out and I’m so proud of you all. God bless each of you.
There is money to be made from the trans movement but no money in detransitioning
not true...these children are permanent medical patients for the rest of their lives no matter how they "identity" later... there is havoc wrought on the body from just a few months of interruption of the natural endocrine systems, especially at puberty, that alone is enough to incur life long consequences and the further down the "treatment" trail they are seduced to go, the more certain the permanent damage, regardless of how they "identify" years later..... it is a one way course of damage.
@@inTruthbyGrace do you know what exactly happens to someone who isn't going through puberty and takes hormones? Do you actually have the information on that? My boyfriend wants to take female hormones and I support it because I am a straight acting guy and my personality is that of a straight guy so I love feminine figures, which he already kind of is feminine looking so it's something I am really interested in, but I don't want him to get bottom surgery and I never discussed it with him yet, but I don't think he would do that, if he plans to then I am going to explain the medical chaos when someone removes their penis and gets a man-made vagina
There’s tons of money in both transitioning and detransitioning. Once they’ve got you, they’ve got you. Listen to what the detransitioners go through- how many surgeries, failed surgeries, and surgery revisions they go through. How many recurring infections they need treatment for. How long the mental health journey is, and entails self-harm, drug abuse, extreme weight loss and gain, etc. The list is endless. This is the ultimate grift.
We have too many unqualified therapist, psychiatrist, and doctors in general. Wake up America!!
this is going to become extremely prevalent in the coming 5-10 years, mark my words.
Intentionally too, pushed by the elites and government.
My dad and mom had cancer at the same time. Breast and prostate. They both got lupron shots, which was about $8000 a shot back then. Moms voice got deeper, and she sprouted a mustache. Dad had headaches and tender nipples. This is powerful stuff. They were in their early 70s. I worry for these folks- what on earth will this drug regimen do ten years down the road? I’m betting the medical establishment is making a fortune off these folks. This should not be done to minors. I feel these folks have been taken terrible advantage of by greedy people and an aggressive agenda.
medical is making about 1 million per transition, per case
Tomboy used to be a description of a sporty girl
No one ever told me I was a boy I was always told I was a tomboy in the 1960s.
Let girls be tomboys with no judgement or surgery.
Let people be who they are in peace no need to medicate children
Yes, let them be themselves, but we don’t need to label sporty or otherwise gender nonconforming girls as “tomboys” either. They are not any kind of boy, they are a girl who likes what they like. My mum called me this once cause I liked climbing trees and wading in ponds and I got so annoyed and told her “I’m not a boy just because like doing things that are fun”.
My sister was a tomboy, I wasn’t, but I was not a girly girl either. I was a plain old girl. We have a varied and wonderful world with room for everyone to be excepted not celebrAted. No big deal.
It's surprising how their bad experiences led them to deeply understand their own character.
They define themselves "stubborn" or "hard-headed", and are able to see themselves from their parents' perspective.
It must be insanely painful to realise all this when you've already crossed the line.
I respect them for finding the strengh to speak out and trying to prevent someone else from making the same irreparable mistake.
It just hit me how young these kids are. They still have an entire lifetime ahead of them.
and no physical ability to become parents to their own kids. Adoption only
This was probably one of the most powerful and profound interviews of our lifetime. This entire panel blew me away! Not only how raw and real they all were but how well they could articulate their struggles and life journey. My deepest respect and admiration for each and every single one of you! Your courage and strength in sharing your truth is going to bring so much awareness and necessary truth to TRULY save lives…in EVERY sense! Blessings and love to each and every single one of you! Please know that the vast majority of the WORLD is behind you! 💖
It's terrifying that you think that. Honestly alarming. These are not victims. These are appropriators of victim status who pushed the real victims out of the way, fucked up their own bodies to try to fit into hipster culture, and are now pointing the finger at the adults and medical professionals who they backed into a corner and forced to accommodate them. These people are so young, they are neither outcasted by society or their families.... your comments are alarmingly ignorant.
Yes 🙏
I’m also a detransitionner from France, I’m happy to see that I’m not alone..
you will never be alone, just believe in you, some days will be difficult, but there will be many good days with friends family and eventually a partner that loves you for who you are and will always be there for you, ♥ lots of love from Ireland, stay strong.
Thank you. As a school professional I was expected to support this. I couldn't so had to stop working in public schools
Good on you for taking a stand, the unfortunate part is that it’s one less teacher who could possibly introduce some critical thinking on these topics, though I don’t doubt you’d be fired if you did try to do that so 🤷🏻♀️
It is incomprehensible to me that a child can socially transition in school...and the teacher is not supposed to tell the parents. Now the people who know and love them the most cannot intervene to find out whats going on mentally. The ideology of their peers can take root in their minds unimpeded. Its insane imo.
Grooming children is a crime. Send teachers and school principals to jail for grooming.
And medical professionals!
"Hardware fixes for software issues". Summed it up very intelligently.
It's hard to believe society went from some people complaining about boys and girls toys being sexist to telling kids to change their sex if they don't fit in to gender norms. It's okay if a boy wants to play with girls toys. That doesn't mean he needs to become a girl.
If insurance didn't pay for the surgery or medication and had to be paid out of pocket these people would think twice. It is a money maker for hospital, pharmaceutical and doctors.
All other policy holder should sue. There is zero data supporting these expensive surgeries and drugs as life saving and necessary. They're elective and should be paid for by the patient, 100%.
“Love isn’t always saying yes”. So powerful.
All you brave souls, thank you for sharing. My heart breaks for our youth.
Best to all of you ❤
"Only saying yes isn't love, it's enabling." Wow... Such true and powerful words.
I pushed back on my own daughter. I knew on a soul level that she was not transgender.
I found out she was even thinking in this way because she was groomed by her SCHOOL Counselor. He had been pulling her from class for months every week. He was telling her NOT to talk to us, Not to be her new identity at home only at school and to keep us fully in the dark. It came to a head when he handed her scissors and told her “once it’s gone they can’t do anything about it” and she cut off all her beautiful long hair.
I was so heartbroken. Complete heartbroken, scared, and so pissed off at the school. HOW CAN THEY DO THIS? What right do they have to diagnose a kid with gender issues who has never shown gender issues.
Luckily the lockdowns happened a week later. It took me 6 months to deprogram her, and another 6 to help her be comfortable in her own skin. I told her to tell others if asked “why aren’t you trans anymore” that She is just figuring it all out like everyone else..
there still is lingering issues but I can say she is a perfectly comfortable Female who is probably gay.
We can deal with it as parents but we are the ones to do that. Not affirming doctors or affirming therapists who I think mean well but are causing so much HARM with rushed interventions. Let’s allow the brain to develop. Let’s not sterilize a entire GENERATION.
We have to push back in love to save our children. It’s better to hurt them now and save them from a lifetime of suffering.
Many don't realize..when you enroll your child into public school? U basically sign away your Right as their parent to the institution of the school as their guardian for the hours school is held. It Extends to psychology, and medical emergency (it's Their call.) And many other caveats in those papers everyone HAS to sign. It's worse because almost nobody TALKS about it, so many don't know. But it is 100% true.
@@izzyjones7108 that’s why everyone should pull their kids from Gov schools
My beautiful niece cut her hair off a few years ago, start dressing more unisex or male and now at 16 wanted to transition but thank God her mom and grandma (grandma has had "temporary" custody for almost 13 years now, mom in and out of child's life) had enough sense not to sign the papers. Her school appointed counselor is really pushing her to transition as are her Dr and the psychologist at her health care clinic.
@@pamfink4052 if at 18, it’s still ringing true then nothing can be done to stop them..
I swear it may feel “real” but it’s not about gender.. it’s a complexity of other things and had she been born even 10ths earlier it never would have entered her mind.
The biggest reasons why they rush them they is they will lose them as a patient and all that lifelong $$$ that follows that patient. They know the 95% out grow rate is huge, the other problem is the kids, they feel like they are trapped, like they already told “everyone” that this is who they are, what they want, etc and don’t want to look like a liar.
Grandma needs to cancel all follow up appointments with the doctors and not take her anymore. Pray. Pray that once more maturity and self acceptance happens she may not want this anymore.
She deserves real intimacy, real future options, possibility of Family and none of those will happen with transitioning.
Sterilizing half a generation of kids is sick.
My God. Smh. I thank GOD I have NO children in school now. Because God forbid any so counselor even SPOKE to my child without my knowledge or consent I would have landed up in jail FOR THE HELL I WOULD RAISE. NO WAY IN HELL WOULD ANY OF THESE EVIL PREDATORS yes predators be Ever allowed to go any where near my child. Smh. THIS IS SAD.....YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO FEAR SENDING YOUR CHILD YOUR CHILD TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THIS MADNESS.
“Hardware fix for a software issue” when she said that it was probably the best analogy anyone could think of.
In 10 years, there are going to be a lot of people hating their parents for letting them do this as a child. 😢
Wow . .. "only saying yes is not love .." THAT was deep and powerful. I felt that! Thank you❤
Detransitioners deserve a bigger platform for the public to get more opinions
I watched a neighborhood girl from age 11-16.5 years of age go through 15 different personalities.
I believe these people should get together and file a lawsuit for indoctrination and child abuse by the schools, health dpt, education dpt. Etc. They were groomed, abused and indoctrinated into this and the consequences are for life. They are the ones that can stop these abuse to kids.
These bunch of people might look small, fragile and weak to some.
For me?
They are giants. Colossal people who stand strong against the real bigots, prejudice and chauvinists who speak up in the name "freedom of speech" in trans communities.
They are just astonishingly brave.
Exactly!
Love is putting up boundaries and not always saying "yes" is critical. Saying "yes" is enabling. What a wonderfully glorious reminder that we as parents often forget.
"Love is not giving in to every whim and only saying 'Yes.'
yea, it's not love, it's compliance
This is WHY children should NEVER be given a choice on this…😥
Children can’t consent to sex, but can decide to live as the opposite sex?
Insanity.
I completely agree with you.
A massive class-action to sue these docs and pharma is in order
Goodluck. They signed all the forms trust me
I had an eating disorder for a decade. Imagine if my Dr would have told me that yes, I should be thinner and prescribed me weight loss pills, liposuction, etc. and affirmed I am fat even when I wasn't. This is no different. These people needed help with their pain and confusion, not surgeries, pills, and affirmation that they are "broken" in some way. All of them were born perfect exactly as God made them.
Is body dysmorphia even a pathology? What's the criteria?
What a disingenuous comparison. Shame on you
@@chelseariffic It's actually a perfect comparison. Mental illness is mental illness. God bless you.
@@Spread_Hope_Like_Fire why do you pigeon hole other people based on your own experiences. It's legion in evangelical circles. When Jesus said believe like a child, he wasn't saying be dumb and gullible. Children ask questions non-stop.
@@davidsprouse151 I'm not pigeonholing anyone. I'm echoing the true experiences these people spoke from their own mouths in the video with an example I have from my own life. My heart hurts for them. I have based my whole life on asking questions and sacrificed everything many times over for the pursuit of truth. Born and raised a Jehovah's witness, left in my twenties after researching and finding it was all lies and have been shunned by my entire family ever since. They have not spoken to me in over six years. Got into new age practices and drifted far from God and finally found Jesus in 2022. It was a LONG hard search finding Him. Why are you pigeonholing Christians? Jesus saved my life and gave this weary soul a PURPOSE. You don't know everyone's story, so please don't be so quick to judge what I've lived through without any idea how far I've come and how hard I've actually had to fight.
Anyone who influences or grooms children to transistion should be tossed in prison for child abuse. This is heartbreaking what is happening and we as a society is allowing it!
They wanted this done to them. Period. They paid someone to do it. The main blame rests with them. Some here transitioned in their mid-20's!
You can change so many things in life - your hair, your appearance, your clothes. You can get tattoos, piercings. You can change your job, your partner, you can run away to a faraway land. And now you can change your gender. But you can't run away from you. It's critical in life to come to terms with, and be content, with who you are. Only then can you start thinking about the kind of person you'd like to share your life with and go looking for that person. I'm 78 years old and find it heartbreaking that these talented and articulate young people got so lost in the desperate attempt to change themselves into who they thought they should be.. I wish all of you the best for the future.
It's so much deeper than the surface issue of transgenderism. We're being attacked from within by a form of Marxism. The goal is to dismantle and disrupt everything about Western culture in order to pave the way for socialism. Listen to James Lindsay.
@@derektrudelle4182
Agreed 💜
@@derektrudelle4182 you're absolutely right. Our kids are algorithmicly manipulated. The left is in EVERY nook and cranny of our society and our institutions and are destroying our country. Your comment was brilliantly written and on-point.
Yes! James Lindsay, his channels is "New Discourses."
Hey, it's cool you're here on RUclips at 78! 👍
I hope I'll be on whatever comes next, when I'm 78.
Sweetest reply ❤️
Thanks to everyone who shared their story. That takes courage.
I miss when kids could be goth, punk, emo or something by dying their hair and wearing odd clothes.
True, hippie, punk, rocker, teddy, new romantic, Mods, now it's gender shock, non-binary and trans kids....
Next will be trans species 😮
Has that gone away though? Did trans people erase other cultures? Strange take...
Right!,not change their god given sex.
My kid is/was going through this, so I took her to a therapist because she was being bullied at school, wasn’t happy with her life, and just general discontent. I told the therapist that I wished they had more self confidence and to know it was okay to navigate as she saw fit.
The therapist told my kid they were a boy. I’m sorry, but who tells an 11-12 year old this? Now I’m scared to bring her ANYWHERE for help and fear her whole life is at stake.
Be careful yor child will be sucked in. I have a boys name and was bullied. I could have been sucked in. Teach kid words dont mean anything if you dont take them in. Why would yor kid listen to someone who isnt their friend? They can say what they want, doesnt make it true. Have memorized smart comebacks. Bullies like timid kids. Not ones who say nasty things back. Teach yor child to fight. Never put hands on someone, but if they out hands on yor child, they must fight back and finish the fight. Fight dirty. No hair pulling. I was taught both. I finished a multi girl fight, bc I fought like a guy. This must be taught. Bc teachers wont do anything. And every kid feels awkward and questioning. Its normal. They dont need mult surg to feel like who they are.
Bring her to God, let her follow your example. In His mercy, may He bring you both peace and contentment
@@martinarooney228Let's not propagate religion here
@@lanadecimal Truth reveals itself and light can never be hidden regardless of the attempt. Peace be with you.
@@martinarooney228no, the problem is way bigger than that. You probably, like almost all, have never read it cover to cover. And just ignore and hide from the truth.
What would Jesus NOT do? Speak against slavery and all of the even WORSE things it loves. So no one wants or needs that. Keep such horrible things to yourself.
Every high school classroom needs to hear this......
It’s so heartbreaking, but I’m so glad these people are speaking out. I hope they receive as many “you’re so brave” comments as they did when they began their first transition journey. You are all incredibly brave to be speaking out and raising awareness! I’m so sorry you had to go through this, but on behalf of so many confused and ill informed young people, thank you!
Do not let children make adult decisions! It's abuse 😢 i want to kiss and hug them all ❤
I am so glad you are doing this, my son married and moved to LA, I got a letter telling me they were female, I tried to express my concerns, their response was to cut me out of their life. I can only hope that one day I will hear from them again before I die. But I am losing hope, I wish they would reach out. I have no idea how to reach out anymore. It is a pain that no one should ever have to feel.
The ones that were transitioned as a teen should have lawsuits against the doctors!
Yes
Chloe does
I think Brian said it best. He said he had mental issues and substance abuse problems. And the problem after was finding a psychologist who wasn’t an activist.
Yeah. That rang true. Doesn't seem like the doctors take a holistic approach at all.
Oh my gosh after so much of what seeks like talking to walls about professionals who do not always have good intentions, it's a breath of fresh air to see these comments from you lovely intelligent people
this is what needs to be shown at schools...
Fifty years from now we are going to be looking back on this topic the same way we look back at lobotomies now and how those things were medically and socially accepted at the time.
*Why isn't this on a much larger platform and moreso widely promoted*
Excellent Topic and panel. Thank You
I'm glad it's here on RUclips. More people watch RUclips than TV news.
I wish these voices would be amplified. I’m a physician and I am utterly horrified by the manner by which the medical community has standardized gender transition with immediate confirmation of the validity of gender dysphoria with so little research to support its practice and so little psychological evaluation of individuals. I thought we were taught to practice evidence based medicine. I had a trans patient who came to me with symptoms of allergies to hormonal treatments which are not FDA approved, and really struggled to advise this patient. I agree with the statement of “gaslighting of trans marketing”…
My daughter at 14 tried coming to me about getting on hormones and I said absolutely not. I am a Christian woman and would never allow that. It was just a phase thank God. But could you imagine if I would have fallen into that.
Thank you for standing strong!! God bless!
As a Mother IAM so proud of All of you!!
“Love isn’t always affirming. Love is also putting up those boundaries and saying no. So that you can protect them, even if they hate you for it.” 23:30
This is what I’ve always tried to do as a parent. This is what it means to truly love your children. Being willing to be vilified because you’re putting your child’s safety above your own emotional comfort.
I can't understand how people can allow their kid jump into fire just because the kid say it's a great idea.
@@toplyf. once your kid is 18, what can you do?
@verasanina4977 A lot of people do not provide parental guidance to their kids they want to be friends, no discipline, no principles, no moral standards. It's why we see things like this. No one can start controlling a child when the child is already grown. Any values to be instilled must be at early life. Even if the child grows up and do whatever they like you know you did your best.
@verasanina4977 For instance, I don't know any kid that hated school as much as I did when I was 5-8 years old. I would cry for no reason in the morning. Sometimes I would hide under the bed, I would feign sick, even when I was injured at school. There was just nothing I didn't do to avoid school. Much as I was the youngest in my family loved and protected and provided for totally, there was just no excuse to avoid school. At some point I thought my parents are the most wicked for not letting me choose when not to go to school. As a kid I didn't know better. But in the end I came to like school, infact after my Bachelors degree and MBA, I remember thanking my father for insisting I went to school. This was before he passed away. Meanwhile as that 7 year old I was only trying to do what other kids did. Not come to school at will because their parents will allow them. I remember my father saying to all my senior siblings I'm not here to be your friend or make you like me. I am here to protect you even against yourself. You must go to school. It's not so for many families, children walk into fire because parents are weak. Discipline is not negotiable. And it must be from very young age. If parents don't know the way how will they show their kids the way?
"hardware fixes for a software problem..."
Perfect. So sorry for all.
There should be a whole detrans month just like lgbt gets a whole month.
March.
The detransitioners are not treated well by the medical or LGBT communities, and it is something that needs to change.
If you have seen enough of these stories told you would understand that a lot of times the reason that the LGBT community is not accepting of these people is because a violent backlash from the detransitioned people themselves. The entire lgbtq Community is not the person that harm them or who convinced them to do anything they many times have made these decisions as an adult. Yet a lot of them feel a lot of anger toward the LGBT community because they felt that they are somehow tricked into making their decisions. Nobody wants to trick anyone into transitioning. That concept is foreign 2 every lgbtq person on the planet. What would the motivation for that even be?
Thank God for these detrans, this will help in getting the right message out…
The best way to stop this nonesence is to take this subject out of schools. STOP misgendering young minds. I was a tomboy till i reached the age of 16 years, i was a girl, a woman, and now i am 80 years of age, Once i reached the age of 16 i left my tomboyishness behind me. Children all develop at different ages. Allow them to do it. WinifredThompson , Northern Ireland. ❤
I think no one under 21 should be able to get a sex change. Medical insurance shouldn't cover sex reassignment. It's not a medical necessity.
My autistic 17 year old kid jumped on this bandwagon. We had a very serious discussion about it all. I told him the truth about it all, that people are regretting it, that he'll never be able to have children (he doesn't want kids, but that could change in the future), then I told him the most important thing of all, "you're brain is not fully formed until you're about 25 years old, THEN you'll be able to make rational decisions.
I did exactly what these poor people's parents did not do. I gave him the truth. He's no longer on this bandwagon and is embracing who he is (long hippie hair and all).
Well, I'm glad you can pat yourself on the back, and you feel like a better parent than these children/young adults had. I know the more I showed my daughter the truth, the more she fought to show us that we were wrong. I thank YAH my daughter, who is now a young adult, didn't go the medical route and is now waking up to these horrible lies our children are being subjected to.
Anyways, prayer and compassion, not judgment, is what these families need.
Good for you! Sometimes we need to be brutally honest with our children. How sad this is for all involved. Prayers for healing.
Some parents do this and it still doesn’t work. Humans are ultimately going to make whatever decision they want, and some ppl are unfortunately going to have to live with their poor decisions. I imagine the trans fad will become less popular, and less damage will be done. It’s just popular right now to be trans, so even ppl that aren’t actually trans are making irreversible choices :/
I have a weakness for guys with long hair..I’m sure many of us 70’s girls do..and many girls in 2023 probably….may he find happiness in his own skin!
Laura, you commented on Jordan Petersons video and I happened to click on your channel and watch this video. I'm glad I did. Thank you for sharing this. These conversations are extremely important. I wish this video had millions of views.
Thank you, Paul. I just posted it yesterday so hopefully it can reach that view count eventually!
The same happened with me. And I’m so glad. You are all so brave for sharing your stories… thank you!
@@LauraBeckerReal Thank you Laura for bringing attention to this 'insanity'.
Even this only stops one child from making a mistake it’s a blessing!!!!
Why not wait until you’re older to make 100% sure.
Agree with the first part. But couldn't disagree more with the second part. No one should have medical intervention for any body image issues. It doesn't fix the issue at all, it always makes it worse
Thank you for your compassion. It’s important to spread awareness on the medical harm happening to children and young people. Check out my detransition advocacy campaign to read about my gender story and learn how you can make a meaningful difference on this complex issue. Click on the description of this video to find the link to watch the documentary, and assist my fight to protect vulnerable patients from the gender industry.
Listening to them, really listening, and watching their body language, these are deeply hurting people. They have been hurting for a very long time. I have so much compassion for them. They were vulnerable to begin with and fell victim to a social media-led society that offered a false sense of belonging and affirmation, at a very high cost. I’m so proud of them for speaking out. Real courage.
Please, keep speaking up, so other kids don’t have to become victims of unethical professionals
Wow. I'm a 55 year old woman who has started to have hot flashes, etc. I wouldn't wish these symptoms on an enemy let alone a teenager!
Me too. I started with hot flashes in mid 40s. I'm 66 and still have them. It's dangerous to put male hormones into female, and vice versa.
Im 51 and have neither of these symptoms I'm super scared now.
I had tears in my eyes. What a beautiful group of calm, sensible, eloquent people...all of them mature beyond their years (no doubt due to all they've been through and having to figure it all out by themselves).
Amd how astoundingly brave of them all, to speak out simply in order to shine some light and hopefully help some young people and/or their parents.
I wish you all the very best, and will donate xxx
Agreed. You basically wrote my thoughts for me.
Thank you for saying, " Love is not always saying yes."
Yes, often it's just wanting the best for someone you love or care about.
Hardware fixes for a software problem is such a powerful expression. Thank you all for this critical work.
I didn’t know what that meant for awhile.
Such a good way to put it!
This is heart-rending, this is so powerful, bless you all, you have been so abused the medical system, my love to you all❤❤❤❤❤❤
We need Doctors, surgeons and non woke psychologists who can help these guys and gals 😞🙏
When my daughter was in middle/high, I told her this would happen, it’s happening. All her trans friends are no longer trans.
They are heroes who are helping to educate others. Yes, you are all brave and wonderful.
Thank you for being so transparent and being couragous to admit you made a mistake. God bless you.
I feel these people deserve justice. Class Action $$ !! Hold the adults accountable. So Damn Sad . 😢
Thank you for your compassion. It’s important to spread awareness on the medical harm happening to children and young people. Check out my detransition advocacy campaign to read about my gender story and learn how you can make a meaningful difference on this complex issue. Click on the description of this video to find the link to watch the documentary, and assist my fight to protect vulnerable patients from the gender industry.
So much respect for their bravery and testimony. I am so thankful they have all come forward. You deserve the best xxx
"Love is not giving into every whim and only saying yes." 💯
Look at what the pharmaceutical and medical industry has done to people. Even the smaller problems like anxiety, ptsd and so on. Kids NEVER EVER talked like this when I was a kid . This is unreal 😔
As an operating room nurse I refuse to be involved in any gender reassignment surgery.
I too am a surgical nurse and have seen trans return to have breast implants but that is the easy resolution, can’t do that with bottom surgery. But yes hormones fuck you up. Hugs to each one of you for coming forward.
It takes guts to admit you were duped. Good on them, maybe they will save a few lives.
How many of you folks will be able to do the same?
This is heartbreaking 💔 Shame on the professionals that rubber stamp these procedures.
Those professionals should have their licenses pulled, especially when it comes to treating minors.
Sadly, careers are at stake. Therapists and doctors can lose their job if they challenge someone saying they are trans. It is sad.
Also, big pharma is making big money. This is how they want it right now.
Important part " see a Dr that's NOT an activist"
The thing is, I'm pretty sure most of them aren't actual activists. They're just in it for the money.
Having raised 7children I can attest that they believe they are their smartest at 13 to 14 years old. It isn’t until they are about 30 before they realize you actually loved them and weren’t trying to just destroy their life.
Gosh, these people are so lovely, wise and important.
Please keep speaking out, you are being so helpful!
As a mother my heart goes out to these young beautyful people who have been abused and mistreated but also to the parents who had to experience this and were helpless. They have also been abused. I want to thank each and everyone of these young people for speaking up.
"Love is not saying yes to every whim" - This is so true.
I’m surprised RUclips hasn’t taken this down for them speaking out against trans identity
The worst part is that social workers are being trained to just accept and promote this. So...thank you
I pray for physical, emotional and spiritual healing for you all in the name of Jesus, amen. ❤️
We need to support detransitioners
By all means, it's a hard and scary road. Often they feel very alone, and often they are. Many wonderful people are scarred for the rest of their lives because of what was done to them.
Again kindness to all….as I believe in Jesus, I can see Him being very supportive of any human being who has come through life changing issues…just like the people shunned in His day, he went and ate with them…he was showing love…he also could heal …which I do believe He still does and forgives …and that’s why I love him…he forgave me of things I did, and helped me to,forgive myself.
I’m so glad this is becoming more and more of a conversation. It’s so important.
In January my ER visit bill came in $9900. (Pneumonia). Regular working people can't afford medical bills. Makes me wo who's paying for these costly procedures?
Taxpayers. Free healthcare in Minnesota. Trans medical sanctuary state.
Trans surgery doesn't fix disphoria! That is the real take away, the real truth.
There is a lot of truth in this. Surgeries can't remove dysphoria. Often, dysphoria doesn't really go away. But access to options that can reduce it should not be taken away.
The brave people are not the ones that transition, it's the ones who realize they made a mistake and they have the courage to say it and share their stories. Humility is rare these days.
Kinda hard for anyone to "realize they made a mistake" if they never transitioned to begin with. What "mistake" would they be realizing?
@@JJ-yc2sv Clearly, these people did transition. Some more than others, but they are all detransitioners. Their mistake was they did not questioned what they were told, like the doctors did not challenged them. Now they realize that there are other ways to deal with gender dysphoria or other mental disorders. These people are becoming the voices that warn others of the danger of transitioning, which is NEVER explained by the health professionals. I wanted to be a girl when I was younger and I'm just glad I did not live now. I would've been just another child they experiment on. I grew up and I'm fine with being a man.
@@SLam-ve3yp
Clearly. But I didn't ask what THESE people's mistakes were. I asked about the hypothetical people in your original statement. You said those who DON'T transition, but "realize they made a mistake." It's a blatant contradiction. Unless you're implying that NOT transitioning is the mistake, the ONLY people who can possibly "realize they made a mistake" are those who actually DID transition. It's not possible to realize you made a mistake if you never actually did anything.
@@JJ-yc2sv You are the one who has a problem understanding a simple sentence. I said the brave ones are not the ones who transition or transitioned. It is the people like them who are admitting they made a mistake by transitioning, whatever the reason (i.e. internal homophobia). It's not hard to understand. There is no contradiction in what I say.
@@SLam-ve3yp
Lmao. No, my understanding is just fine. You apparently have difficulty articulating your thoughts, and lack the maturity, honesty, humility and/or comprehension to recognize & admit when you've misspoken.
What you're clearly trying (and failing) to say, is that "it's not those who STAY transitioned that are brave," because those who "realize they made a mistake BY TRANSITIONING," obviously DO transition, which, according to your first statement, would make them NOT the brave ones.