Jean you need to fly to Australia 🇦🇺 to join the KoKo show.🐨🍻🦘 Shimmy is going to be outnumbered by Prof, Goit, Biv and Swoop.🤠 Get Schala involved too... You are our recreational delegates from South Africa go make us proud! 🇿🇦 🫡
Robbie was a Wynberg boy so it’s a win-win. I played against him as a Bishops prep boy when he was still at Wynberg. Wynberg were the best primary school team from u8a to u13a, literally a ridiculous team. I don’t think they lost a game in all those years, they put 40 on all the local schools often. I was shite and got dropped to under 13b’s lol.
The only Springbok game I have watched outside of South Africa was 2006 49 -0 loss in Brisbane. I wanted to ask for my money back. I was only Springbok supporter on the train home not fun.
Great chat guys. Excited to see Siya back at the Sharks. As a South African who has lived abroad for 18 years and counting, I can tell you that it is not for everyone.
Gotta say that this was a real treat listening to Evan Roos and he's young in years but clearly got a handle on the game and has MASSIVE potential for many years of Stormers and Springbok rugby to come. The future looks very bright indeed!
I’ve seen all episodes of Boks office. I love Shim but this was the best episode yet. I love how you were able to keep it fun and really get stuck in on the tactical aspects⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Great episode. Fantastic insights as always and enjoyed the extra "background" stories from past tours and interactions with players. Top quality show.
Racing shouldn’t have disrespected one of the most humble guys ever in Rugby. Siya knows his worth and more importantly won’t tolerate the disrespect. We are human beings not objects that can be tossed around. Siya 🔥🇿🇦
What a load of rubbish. Kolisi is a professional rugby player who was paid a huge sum to do a job for Racing and he failed to meet expectations. It's irrelevant that he is humble. He was a complete flop at Racing.
Crap. He flip flopped and reneigged on his contract. Now SA rugby must bail him out. Bollocks to that nonsense. Besides, how often do you see him challenging a ref. I thought psdt did a fantastic job as captain. Another leg injury and he'll be toasty.
Our own Kolisi Springbok Captain...we welcome you and your family home 🏡...Rassie knows his plan for all our bokke ...good place to be in Rassie camp ...Amazing how our Springboks our Bomb Squad gets people talking ...Rassie has the best plan for our Springboks...just understand that Bomb Squad are here to stay ..win ..draw or lose ...suck it up ...Just thinking 🤔 Rassie you are bigger better than all of those who want to analyze your gift called striving for perfection and the result is Victory...Winning for a better word ...Rassie Rassie Rassie is in our heads ...Go Bokke Go Beatrix Strydom
@@user-qe1tv1bu2f Don't see you saying anything about Kitschoff who did exactly the same thing, even without his clubs owner speaking badly about him. Go back to commenting on elections little bot.
The next challenge for Rassie is not expanding his player base as that will naturally happen given the talent pool he has created. Its actually his coaching tree and developing and grooming the next batch of Bok coaches. You look at Bill Walsh and Andy Reid vs Bill Belichick trees and you can spot a great gap in successful coaches who develop others vs an all time coach who just used his talent pool.
Next world cup i can see a Sacha at 10, Damien Willemse at 12 and Mannie at 15, i think they should start trying Mannie at 15, he has a great boot and vision and is very quick..
Siya is definitely coming back to the Sharks because all his friends are in KZN these days. Lukhanyo, Beast, Eben and Bongi all live in KZN. If you follow his social media during his first stay at the sharks you can tell the bond he has with these guys so he probably wants to return to his life of work and private where he can be with his friends.
Actually would be cool to see Siya play another year in France fully fit. SA Rugby also said its not true they are paying for the R18 million buyout, this is exact same situation with Kitshoff, WP but owners paid for the buyout not SA rugby
Don't like this podcasting gig though 😢 I know Jean is close to the Roos family but he is still young,proving himself and still actively involved to be commenting on these type subjects...he should be working on that level change and his ball retention
@SiyoyoStofile-kw6yh I would agree slightly because like he said, he's out for the next 6 months with surgery... I also like seeing the guys on these longer form podcasts because we tend to forget that they're humans too... I mean, he's 24 years old... let's say he has 10-12 years left in his career, I'd say branching out into different revenue streams is definitely not a bad idea. But yeah, he definitely needs to work more to get himself up to where we all hope he can get and I know he knows it too. So no stress
@@matthewkayser4162 Jeepers didn't know his out for that long🤔...well then it's probably not a train smash to invite him to the pod..Jasper really has got the luck of the Irish hey🤣.. Hanekom gets injured after knocking the hinges off the Bok door selectors,Augustus/Horne/Du Preez twins don't get a look and now Roos injured and misses out on a Bok gameplan that suits his strengths😁...I think he must give me tommorow's Lotto numbers
I still don’t feel our rugby players come across confidently in match interviews, so giving a young guy media exposure in their injury time will hopefully help 🇿🇦
I always doubted Siya's move to France instead of Japan or Ireland even England..those French clubs really want their pound of flesh and have almost a European football club mentality which is completely foreign to rugby ethos.. hopefully Sharks manage him similarly to how McCaw was handled at the Sanders .for all of Richie's pedigree Matt Todd was their go to starter..Sharks have some exciting loosies... Phepsi,Tshituka bros etc....
He went to the wrong club and the wrong part of France. Paris has become a violent racist city and the French were probably hostile towards him, especially after SA knocked them out of their own world cup. South African rugby players who have played in France have mostly gone to clubs in the south of France and many have done well there especially at clubs like Toulon where Bakkies Botha, Danie Roussouw, Bryan Habana, Joe Van Niekerk, Juan Smith, Duane Vermeulen, Eben Etzebeth and Cheslin Kolbe played. A guy like Joe Van Niekerk even got inducted into their clubs hall of fame. No other springbok has been inducted into a French clubs hall of fame. Siya would have enjoyed Toulon and the French mediteranean seaside resorts a lot more than a dirty filthy city like Paris but he chose to chase the huge payday.
@@user-nk9cw5md8l What on earth are you talking about? No one was hostile towards Kolisi. In fact he was treated like a superstar the moment he arrived at Racing. The simple fact is that he is vastly overrated and Racing made a mistake by believing the media-generated hype surrounding him.
@ethancroft5512 well the clubs owner wasn't very polite in his recent statements about Kolisi which were very insulting and nobody knows the personal circumstances or situation how his wife and kids were settling in France, maybe they were struggling and didn't fit in and this could be a reason. Plus the fact Rassie has publicly said he wants his captain based in South Africa and if Siya still has aspirations to be part of the boks and continue the captaincy role then a move back home makes sense. Who cares what fans who don't like or rate him think. He is a back to back world cup winning captain and they aren't. 2 bad if he hasn't performed up to expectation. Shit happens. By the way Kobus Reinach the bok scrumhalf who plays club rugby in France received death threats from french supporters after they won the world cup so there is an element of hostility and hatred towards springboks in France and u personally don't know if any was directed at Siya or not.There could have been. He is better of leaving than staying in an environment he is obviously not comfortable in and hasn't been playing well in.
@@ethancroft5512 French clubs have a history of doing this I'm sure even Malcolm Marx would be called useless if Racing don't make the playoffs having signed him😁....Etzebeth was also called out for lacking commitment at Toulon, Pollard the same at Racing,Reinach,Gellant the list is endless...like I said it's almost like a European football mentality even the manner in which they unveil players it's quite a pompous affair and foreign to rugby ethos....whereas the Irish and Japan clubs understand that one or two marquee players do not make a team, instead those marquees most valuable job is to groom the developmental players and ofcourse to bring that international BMT at business end of the season...you see it even in cricket with the IPL and how that exposure has helped young Indian players.
@SiyoyoStofile-kw6yh like I said in an earlier comment it depends which french club. Who the owner and coach are. Take Bakkies Botha, Bryan Habana, Joe Van Niekerk and Juan Smith for example, all became legends and fan favourites at Toulon and performed incredibly well. The French wanted to make Joe Van Niekerk mayor of Toulon such was his popularity when he captained them for 5 or 6 seasons. They inducted him into their rugby hall of fame. Cheslin Kolbe and Eben on the other hand just didn't settle and perform for Toulon, yet Cheslin was a superstar at Toulouse before switching. Then you get the extreme behaviour of certain club owners who turn up to team barbeques unannounced and fire players on the spot and their 3 year contracts end there in the 1st year like what happened to Pierre Spies at Montpellier and several of his team mates. Frans Steyn who has experienced it all in French club rugby explained it well. Basically you need to put the effort in, adapt to the culture, learn the language as if its a French coach the training sessions, team talks etc will be in French not English. Jake White fell out of favour at Montpellier for this reason when coaching there as he didn't learn the language. Conducted everything in English which pissed of the club owner, the French players, the media and the fans and he got fired. One French player playing under Jake at Montpellier complained that his rugby deteriorated but his English improved dramatically. Foreign Players and coaches who can speak French or make the effort do better than those who don't. If you go and find old press media interviews of Joe Van Niekerk , Jonny Wilkinson, Bryan Habana playing for Toulon they speak in French not English at press conferences. Same went for guys like Rory Kockott...all fluent in French.
The Aussies invented the jackler getting hands on the ball and pulling and holding the ball in the chest of the ball carrier and shouting “release, release!”
People forget how many top players bail on Racing after a season or two. Sexton, Carter, Goosen etc. I think it points to shit culture and management. I don't blame top players for not sticking around.
Love the show...but could you pls get a proper TV in that room for the vids? It's like watching laaities checking a whatsapp! Shimi I missed you, Jean needs help! That intro was awful!!
Are kidding?? Whats their next challenge?? To win the upcoming championship especially x2 against ABs and oz. Fleck talks like these guys have arrived. They havnt. They are not dominating anyone except Portugal and wales.😂😂😂
Goodday reader. Siya is probably the most overrated player today. He went to France and there his true colours came to the fore. From the beginning he was pushed forward while there was other players clearly better. Nobody said anything,afraid losing their jobs. Surely now is the time to get rid of him. Cobus🐳
It must have been fun listening to Jean read out loud in class.
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Underrated show🎉🎉
They talk kakapoopoo
@@user-qe1tv1bu2f if this is what 'rugby' is in your language then you are correct.
What an intro Jean😂😂
Jean you need to fly to Australia 🇦🇺 to join the KoKo show.🐨🍻🦘 Shimmy is going to be outnumbered by Prof, Goit, Biv and Swoop.🤠 Get Schala involved too... You are our recreational delegates from South Africa go make us proud! 🇿🇦 🫡
Great show! From an All Blacks fan
Robbie was a Wynberg boy so it’s a win-win. I played against him as a Bishops prep boy when he was still at Wynberg. Wynberg were the best primary school team from u8a to u13a, literally a ridiculous team. I don’t think they lost a game in all those years, they put 40 on all the local schools often. I was shite and got dropped to under 13b’s lol.
"You should do some research before you host this show"
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Great show, love from Ireland
The only Springbok game I have watched outside of South Africa was 2006 49 -0 loss in Brisbane. I wanted to ask for my money back. I was only Springbok supporter on the train home not fun.
Australia are once who get smashed this time 💯👍
Great chat guys. Excited to see Siya back at the Sharks. As a South African who has lived abroad for 18 years and counting, I can tell you that it is not for everyone.
4 years in the UK was enough for me. Home is home guys. Ul even miss the guys at the traffic lights😂 jokes
Yup. Been in UK since 2008 and still want to go back home!
Yep, good cuisine too rich for him, missed bush meat.
@@DxMahlaulowere U earning a million euros per annum
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Gotta say that this was a real treat listening to Evan Roos and he's young in years but clearly got a handle on the game and has MASSIVE potential for many years of Stormers and Springbok rugby to come. The future looks very bright indeed!
😂😂😂 that intro!! 👌🏾 Who the bloody hell left Jean De Villiers unsupervised? 😅😂
So amped for the Championship 🎉 Let's go Bokke!!!!! 🇿🇦
Pls join the guys on the Koko show on the weekend😅
I’ve seen all episodes of Boks office. I love Shim but this was the best episode yet. I love how you were able to keep it fun and really get stuck in on the tactical aspects⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Great episode. Fantastic insights as always and enjoyed the extra "background" stories from past tours and interactions with players. Top quality show.
Jean, how come when Schala and Shimmy aren't there, there are no beer?😅
Siya needs to go out on top instead of trying to hold on until 2027 - go out as the icon that you are sir.
Great show gents. Shimmy was missed though!
Okes, Boks Office is the best show ever! 🙌
Racing shouldn’t have disrespected one of the most humble guys ever in Rugby. Siya knows his worth and more importantly won’t tolerate the disrespect. We are human beings not objects that can be tossed around. Siya 🔥🇿🇦
Because you're two time world champs doesn't mean you're free from criticism, Kolisi came here for the paycheck, stop fucking lying to yourself
What a load of rubbish. Kolisi is a professional rugby player who was paid a huge sum to do a job for Racing and he failed to meet expectations. It's irrelevant that he is humble. He was a complete flop at Racing.
@@ethancroft5512 live that guy alone, Saffas never take accountability for shit
Crap. He flip flopped and reneigged on his contract. Now SA rugby must bail him out. Bollocks to that nonsense.
Besides, how often do you see him challenging a ref. I thought psdt did a fantastic job as captain.
Another leg injury and he'll be toasty.
@@ethancroft5512hear hear, exactly. But these big bux over payed players think their above be honourable.
That was great chaps.. nice one. I enjoyed. ❤
Such a good read on Manie's rugby IQ.
Our own Kolisi Springbok Captain...we welcome you and your family home 🏡...Rassie knows his plan for all our bokke ...good place to be in Rassie camp ...Amazing how our Springboks our Bomb Squad gets people talking ...Rassie has the best plan for our Springboks...just understand that Bomb Squad are here to stay ..win ..draw or lose ...suck it up ...Just thinking 🤔 Rassie you are bigger better than all of those who want to analyze your gift called striving for perfection and the result is Victory...Winning for a better word ...Rassie Rassie Rassie is in our heads ...Go Bokke Go
Beatrix Strydom
love the intro 😂😂
KOKO show and the Boks office are the best
youtube auto-generated captions is REALLY struggling with Jean's accent lol
Cant you guys film after the teams are announced
We got a big crew of Wynberg, SACS and Rondebosch boys heading to the Suncorp. Hopefully 2 out of 14 hey!
I look forward to the koko show collaboration 🎉
30:08 killed me😂😂, joe doesnt know the 💣 squad
Siya for president!!!!!
Yes a flip flopper who doesn't honour a contract. Real captain respect material.
@@user-qe1tv1bu2f Don't see you saying anything about Kitschoff who did exactly the same thing, even without his clubs owner speaking badly about him. Go back to commenting on elections little bot.
@@brettfleiner4906 No one is calling for Kitshoff to be president or pretending that he is a paragon of virtue.
@@ethancroft5512 That isn't what the former commentor was criticizing Siya about though.
Nice one boys!
I love this podcast......❤its real men......
Such a great channel 👏
Excellent content
Now i know why he is really considered.resonsibilty is paramount
Ever since Australia got rid of Izzy Folau, it's been downhill.
Yeah fucking oath
The next challenge for Rassie is not expanding his player base as that will naturally happen given the talent pool he has created. Its actually his coaching tree and developing and grooming the next batch of Bok coaches. You look at Bill Walsh and Andy Reid vs Bill Belichick trees and you can spot a great gap in successful coaches who develop others vs an all time coach who just used his talent pool.
Next world cup i can see a Sacha at 10, Damien Willemse at 12 and Mannie at 15, i think they should start trying Mannie at 15, he has a great boot and vision and is very quick..
Damian has 15 lock up!!!
Nah, do not think he is world class at the high ball
Why remove Willemse from his natural position?
This is what I’m saying. Manie is underrated at 15.
@@Mad_Intalecthis natural position is 10… so it’s all fucked for him anyway lol… might as well try centre
Excellent
Juan is improving a lot at presenting.
Siya is definitely coming back to the Sharks because all his friends are in KZN these days. Lukhanyo, Beast, Eben and Bongi all live in KZN. If you follow his social media during his first stay at the sharks you can tell the bond he has with these guys so he probably wants to return to his life of work and private where he can be with his friends.
Guys, Cheslin is playing 14 in 2024...and its his natural, strong side...not 11
They laugh at the dead dog. 😂. SA humour
Worse paralysed.
Boys join the Koko show next week!
45:00 it was horan who gain the yards, and larkham wasn't in the pocket, he kicked it mid run.
Needed the Durban kid: to go to Kwa Mashu next: heroes are welcome there 👍🏾
Actually would be cool to see Siya play another year in France fully fit. SA Rugby also said its not true they are paying for the R18 million buyout, this is exact same situation with Kitshoff, WP but owners paid for the buyout not SA rugby
Your volume on Apple podcast is far too low
So he's only an awful bastard on the pitch? Rest up well Evan, great insights/interview xxx
Fleckie failed to mention that he was at Wynberg Boy's Junior School!
Evan sounds like hes just getting through puberty with all that voice cracking 🤣🤣. Still got his back for the boks future tho⛈️🫶🏼
Don't like this podcasting gig though 😢 I know Jean is close to the Roos family but he is still young,proving himself and still actively involved to be commenting on these type subjects...he should be working on that level change and his ball retention
@SiyoyoStofile-kw6yh I would agree slightly because like he said, he's out for the next 6 months with surgery... I also like seeing the guys on these longer form podcasts because we tend to forget that they're humans too... I mean, he's 24 years old... let's say he has 10-12 years left in his career, I'd say branching out into different revenue streams is definitely not a bad idea. But yeah, he definitely needs to work more to get himself up to where we all hope he can get and I know he knows it too. So no stress
@@matthewkayser4162 Jeepers didn't know his out for that long🤔...well then it's probably not a train smash to invite him to the pod..Jasper really has got the luck of the Irish hey🤣.. Hanekom gets injured after knocking the hinges off the Bok door selectors,Augustus/Horne/Du Preez twins don't get a look and now Roos injured and misses out on a Bok gameplan that suits his strengths😁...I think he must give me tommorow's Lotto numbers
I still don’t feel our rugby players come across confidently in match interviews, so giving a young guy media exposure in their injury time will hopefully help 🇿🇦
I always doubted Siya's move to France instead of Japan or Ireland even England..those French clubs really want their pound of flesh and have almost a European football club mentality which is completely foreign to rugby ethos.. hopefully Sharks manage him similarly to how McCaw was handled at the Sanders .for all of Richie's pedigree Matt Todd was their go to starter..Sharks have some exciting loosies... Phepsi,Tshituka bros etc....
He went to the wrong club and the wrong part of France. Paris has become a violent racist city and the French were probably hostile towards him, especially after SA knocked them out of their own world cup. South African rugby players who have played in France have mostly gone to clubs in the south of France and many have done well there especially at clubs like Toulon where Bakkies Botha, Danie Roussouw, Bryan Habana, Joe Van Niekerk, Juan Smith, Duane Vermeulen, Eben Etzebeth and Cheslin Kolbe played. A guy like Joe Van Niekerk even got inducted into their clubs hall of fame. No other springbok has been inducted into a French clubs hall of fame. Siya would have enjoyed Toulon and the French mediteranean seaside resorts a lot more than a dirty filthy city like Paris but he chose to chase the huge payday.
@@user-nk9cw5md8l What on earth are you talking about? No one was hostile towards Kolisi. In fact he was treated like a superstar the moment he arrived at Racing. The simple fact is that he is vastly overrated and Racing made a mistake by believing the media-generated hype surrounding him.
@ethancroft5512 well the clubs owner wasn't very polite in his recent statements about Kolisi which were very insulting and nobody knows the personal circumstances or situation how his wife and kids were settling in France, maybe they were struggling and didn't fit in and this could be a reason. Plus the fact Rassie has publicly said he wants his captain based in South Africa and if Siya still has aspirations to be part of the boks and continue the captaincy role then a move back home makes sense. Who cares what fans who don't like or rate him think. He is a back to back world cup winning captain and they aren't. 2 bad if he hasn't performed up to expectation. Shit happens. By the way Kobus Reinach the bok scrumhalf who plays club rugby in France received death threats from french supporters after they won the world cup so there is an element of hostility and hatred towards springboks in France and u personally don't know if any was directed at Siya or not.There could have been. He is better of leaving than staying in an environment he is obviously not comfortable in and hasn't been playing well in.
@@ethancroft5512 French clubs have a history of doing this I'm sure even Malcolm Marx would be called useless if Racing don't make the playoffs having signed him😁....Etzebeth was also called out for lacking commitment at Toulon, Pollard the same at Racing,Reinach,Gellant the list is endless...like I said it's almost like a European football mentality even the manner in which they unveil players it's quite a pompous affair and foreign to rugby ethos....whereas the Irish and Japan clubs understand that one or two marquee players do not make a team, instead those marquees most valuable job is to groom the developmental players and ofcourse to bring that international BMT at business end of the season...you see it even in cricket with the IPL and how that exposure has helped young Indian players.
@SiyoyoStofile-kw6yh like I said in an earlier comment it depends which french club. Who the owner and coach are. Take Bakkies Botha, Bryan Habana, Joe Van Niekerk and Juan Smith for example, all became legends and fan favourites at Toulon and performed incredibly well. The French wanted to make Joe Van Niekerk mayor of Toulon such was his popularity when he captained them for 5 or 6 seasons. They inducted him into their rugby hall of fame. Cheslin Kolbe and Eben on the other hand just didn't settle and perform for Toulon, yet Cheslin was a superstar at Toulouse before switching. Then you get the extreme behaviour of certain club owners who turn up to team barbeques unannounced and fire players on the spot and their 3 year contracts end there in the 1st year like what happened to Pierre Spies at Montpellier and several of his team mates. Frans Steyn who has experienced it all in French club rugby explained it well. Basically you need to put the effort in, adapt to the culture, learn the language as if its a French coach the training sessions, team talks etc will be in French not English. Jake White fell out of favour at Montpellier for this reason when coaching there as he didn't learn the language. Conducted everything in English which pissed of the club owner, the French players, the media and the fans and he got fired. One French player playing under Jake at Montpellier complained that his rugby deteriorated but his English improved dramatically. Foreign Players and coaches who can speak French or make the effort do better than those who don't. If you go and find old press media interviews of Joe Van Niekerk , Jonny Wilkinson, Bryan Habana playing for Toulon they speak in French not English at press conferences. Same went for guys like Rory Kockott...all fluent in French.
There's some serious centre flair here
The Aussies invented the jackler getting hands on the ball and pulling and holding the ball in the chest of the ball carrier and shouting “release, release!”
Responsiblity
Jeez, the dog story says a lot about Saffas' so-called "humour"....
He should come back to stomers
Let us know 🏉
Siya took an 800K holiday. I doubt he has many options left open to him at this stage.
People forget how many top players bail on Racing after a season or two. Sexton, Carter, Goosen etc. I think it points to shit culture and management. I don't blame top players for not sticking around.
Love the show...but could you pls get a proper TV in that room for the vids? It's like watching laaities checking a whatsapp! Shimi I missed you, Jean needs help! That intro was awful!!
lol 😂
This question only mattered when Kolisi was heading to France not now, get sharper guys!
Besrt show.....guys 😂
Isnt
If you cant look after a dog.....jesus
I know and like its 5 okes, I'm sure they were drunk 50% of time and other 50% at the gym.
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Jean surprise he can speak English... Something unexpected in Mzansi Athletes 💀
Are kidding?? Whats their next challenge??
To win the upcoming championship especially x2 against ABs and oz.
Fleck talks like these guys have arrived. They havnt.
They are not dominating anyone except Portugal and wales.😂😂😂
Get Jean an iPad! 😂
Goodday reader. Siya is probably the most overrated player today. He went to France and there his true
colours came to the fore. From the beginning he was pushed forward while there was other
players clearly better. Nobody said anything,afraid losing their jobs. Surely now is the time to get rid
of him. Cobus🐳