Hello, for the mana problems, have you tested Mental Thougness, 4 mana regen points and mana cost reduction right above one of our poison nodes? I have +7 proj level and mana cost spiked a lot (only 3 link so far), and grabbing this 4 nodes have improved my mana by a lot. And is in our path so no need to go far.
Does armor explosion not work on Toxic Growth since that skill isn't the one breaking the armor, since Corrosion is on gas arrow? Or am I missing something?
@Lokati Is Low Tolerance worth the 3 points since it only applies to the 1st poison applied on the mob? With bosses or other tanky elites they have perma poison uptime and other mobs die regardless?
I have been considering that, the 10% magnitude before low tolerance is amazing, and is worth 2 pts, so the question is really more is Low Tolerance worth 1? I think it is, but opinions could vary on that one. Also because of the way pathfinder ascendancy works you will always proliferate your strongest poison so that makes for huge clear.
Yes those are nodes that I am debating on taking as I level, at this point its damage vs. surv decision. I'm not sure how important ailment threshold scaling will be and we're close to great nodes for that.
@@Lokati_gaming lol crap, just enhanced one. but ill get a new one then. so whats the best bow for poison then? are there differences, beside the extra projectile and chaos one?
Isn't armor currently bugged? Would it make sense to focus on Evasion builds? Especially since your tree is mostly evasion anyways? Also can we talk about how ass envenom is lol. If there was a way to make elemental damage do poison dmg....
+% increased chaos damage nodes in the tree don't have any effect on your poison damage since you have pure phys damage. poison don't scale off increased chaos but on bow chaos + phys damage. do you confirm? also thanks for the insights.
the chaos skill level is a more multiplier that is better than anything, I haven't tested whether % chaos affects poison but based on years of POE it should. That is a difficult thing to accurately test because increased is such a small modifier.
I used armor break not exploit weakness, but it doesn't work after extensive testing regarding the poison, just to boost damage of toxic growth with exploit weakness.
Hi ! Thanks for the build. I don't get "Brutality" on toxic growth as it reduces poison damages and causes physical damages. Thus not benefiting from the skills from your passive tree. Many tanks for your answer.
@@Lokati_gaming So you actually apply 8 different poisons in your build? I'm not exactly sure how they work, are these 8 different poison or does it mean you can also stack the same "kind" of poison 8 times?
The highest damaging poison is the one that affects the target, so sometimes we apply 20-30 stacks of poison, but only the 8 (or 10, depending on gear) poisons are damaging the target.
Extensive testing done today and no, not on the gas cloud portion just on the arrow hit potion, so it was replaced with +1 to chaos skills, will post update later today.
Either you're missing something from the build or you're just too low level, gas cloud poison doesnt come online until mid 40s-50s before then toxic growth explosions inside gas cloud is most of your damage.
Is there any value in Despair? The chaos res lowering seems valuable, expecially on bosses. What about Dark Effigy to apply debuffs (e.g. wither.) I'm just moving to gas arrow over from Poisonburst Arrow after watching your video's, keep it up!
I tried it, but it just eats up your mana flask and its not like PoE 1 concoctions (where it gives extra damage for flask charges but you can still use it without charges), here when you run out of charges you can't use the skill anymore so you can literally only throw like 5-8 flasks then you are out of charges and have to kill with something else, and its not like they do insane damage either. Just feels bad over all, hope they buff it or make it so you can use it without flask charges but with half dmg or big mana cost or something.
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Hi mate, thanks for the guides do you think Chaos Infusion (support lvl 3 gem) works with poison gas?
I'm not sure but even if it works It is not good with poison gas, there are many better options.
Hello, for the mana problems, have you tested Mental Thougness, 4 mana regen points and mana cost reduction right above one of our poison nodes?
I have +7 proj level and mana cost spiked a lot (only 3 link so far), and grabbing this 4 nodes have improved my mana by a lot. And is in our path so no need to go far.
I have not tested that, it is not a bad plan but flask has been enough for me.
Does armor explosion not work on Toxic Growth since that skill isn't the one breaking the armor, since Corrosion is on gas arrow? Or am I missing something?
Yes, it works.
Is the higher phys damage of the composite bow better than having the extra projectile of the dualstring bow?
Absolutely
@@Lokati_gaming Thanks for the quick reply. you're awesome dude!
hey man, does heft help with the poison cloud damage? Also, what does armor break do with the cloud damage?
Yes, armor break does nothing for cloud damage but buffs toxic growth damage.
@Lokati Is Low Tolerance worth the 3 points since it only applies to the 1st poison applied on the mob? With bosses or other tanky elites they have perma poison uptime and other mobs die regardless?
I have been considering that, the 10% magnitude before low tolerance is amazing, and is worth 2 pts, so the question is really more is Low Tolerance worth 1? I think it is, but opinions could vary on that one. Also because of the way pathfinder ascendancy works you will always proliferate your strongest poison so that makes for huge clear.
@@Lokati_gaming OKay food for thought. Next question is, do you what type of damage the explosion on Plague Burst is? What does it scale off of?
its fire damage, scales off of your total physical damage and increases to fire damage.
have you considered heavy ammunition and careful aim? 8pts south of Blur for 86% projectile damage
Yes those are nodes that I am debating on taking as I level, at this point its damage vs. surv decision. I'm not sure how important ailment threshold scaling will be and we're close to great nodes for that.
Why do you stack physical dmg on poison skills? And isnt the cultist bow with chaos dmg best for poison ranger?
No chaos bow is the worst bow, phys damage = poison damage. Phys bows have higher base damage than chaos bows, so no go on chaos bow.
@@Lokati_gaming lol crap, just enhanced one. but ill get a new one then. so whats the best bow for poison then? are there differences, beside the extra projectile and chaos one?
@@FFeeLiTwould like to know too.
You didn’t show the bow in the video.
New video is up with more details but projectile skills and phys damage are all that matters on the bow really.
@Lokati_gaming k thx
What do you think is better for gloves the ones you have or the ones where all damage from hits contributes to poison magnitude?
Definitely the snakebite.
Increased chaos damage work on poison ailment?
I would have to test to confirm, but it would be very unusual for GGG to not have chaos damage increase the damage of a chaos based ailment.
Does conc effect affect the poison damage from Gas Arrow? It's a crazy high multiplier
No I do not believe so.
Isn't armor currently bugged? Would it make sense to focus on Evasion builds? Especially since your tree is mostly evasion anyways? Also can we talk about how ass envenom is lol. If there was a way to make elemental damage do poison dmg....
Gloves make elemental damage poison but you lose out on 20% of your total damage.
What is the purpose of using Scatter Shot on Gas Arrow? I tried it and found out the gas clouds do not stack.
Gas clouds most certainly do stack.
+% increased chaos damage nodes in the tree don't have any effect on your poison damage since you have pure phys damage. poison don't scale off increased chaos but on bow chaos + phys damage. do you confirm? also thanks for the insights.
I tested it and I'm pretty sure I'm right. This should save 5 passive nodes.
the chaos skill level is a more multiplier that is better than anything, I haven't tested whether % chaos affects poison but based on years of POE it should. That is a difficult thing to accurately test because increased is such a small modifier.
hey i just got some corpsewades boots. do you think they could be useful?
I dont think giving up the stats on rare boots is worth it.
What u think about Event horizon?
I think its too far away to grab.
are you using armor explosion now ob gas arrow??
I used armor break not exploit weakness, but it doesn't work after extensive testing regarding the poison, just to boost damage of toxic growth with exploit weakness.
hi man what stat is priority on this build can you tell pls ? to buff the poison dmg from the gaz i need a lot on physical dmg on gear right ? ty :)
No stat priority as stats don't affect damage. Just get enough dex for your skills, enough str for your armor and enough int for your supports.
Hi ! Thanks for the build. I don't get "Brutality" on toxic growth as it reduces poison damages and causes physical damages. Thus not benefiting from the skills from your passive tree. Many tanks for your answer.
Toxic growth is just used for the phys explosion damage, the poison it would apply is weak.
Do you need Pathfinder for this? Is the "double the amount of poisons" important for the build?
I feel like i wanna try this build with deadeye
Its half of your damage. SO pretty important.
@@Lokati_gaming So you actually apply 8 different poisons in your build?
I'm not exactly sure how they work, are these 8 different poison or does it mean you can also stack the same "kind" of poison 8 times?
The highest damaging poison is the one that affects the target, so sometimes we apply 20-30 stacks of poison, but only the 8 (or 10, depending on gear) poisons are damaging the target.
@@Lokati_gaming Ohhh i see, well that makes Pathfinder basically mandatory for that. Thanks man :)
Does corrosion actually help the poison damage?
Extensive testing done today and no, not on the gas cloud portion just on the arrow hit potion, so it was replaced with +1 to chaos skills, will post update later today.
Projectile damage affect poison dot?
no
Yes it does.
@@Lokati_gaming Thanks
my gas arrow does like 0 dot damage should i be stacking physical damage on tree? i have magnitude thats about it.
Either you're missing something from the build or you're just too low level, gas cloud poison doesnt come online until mid 40s-50s before then toxic growth explosions inside gas cloud is most of your damage.
@@Lokati_gaming yea im level 26 gonna use toxic growth thanks
changed my gas arrow to your set up and its feeling better! 👍i was stacking armor shred and armour explosion on it before.
Very nice! Glad you're enjoying!
Is there any value in Despair? The chaos res lowering seems valuable, expecially on bosses.
What about Dark Effigy to apply debuffs (e.g. wither.)
I'm just moving to gas arrow over from Poisonburst Arrow after watching your video's, keep it up!
Yes but getting the int for despair as a str/dex hybrid is tough
are you able to update the build link? Thank you.
Going to make a full end game planner here shortly.
@@Lokati_gamingthat’d be nice
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Youre the first high lvl pathfinder i found. Did you test the concoctions at all?
I tried it, but it just eats up your mana flask and its not like PoE 1 concoctions (where it gives extra damage for flask charges but you can still use it without charges), here when you run out of charges you can't use the skill anymore so you can literally only throw like 5-8 flasks then you are out of charges and have to kill with something else, and its not like they do insane damage either. Just feels bad over all, hope they buff it or make it so you can use it without flask charges but with half dmg or big mana cost or something.
@@randomfeg4141 yikes, that sounds horrific. thanks for answering! :)
Concoctions are flat damage scaling that do less damage than a mediocre level 50 bow, not worth without scaling off a weapon.
I hope that GGG will not nerf gas arrow, like lower the speed of poison stacking.
Really fun skill to play.
It might get nerfed a little but I think it will be fine.
I'm not as high level but I feel like Martial Tempo is a must on Toxic Growth
martial tempo is ok, but toxic growth has a built in flat speed addition so attack speed has no impact on that. So.. still slow as fuck.
My poison stack 8 you 10 how?
Gloves probably