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Shane how does it compare to JTR? Just kidding my friend we all know how much you love JTR'S and their sketchy customer service. Great review as always :)
Shane will you be keeping or selling? Rythmik here in Australia let you choose your options, bigger amp, better PEQ, better cabinet, extra bracing, finishes even upgraded driver. So many options etc if you have the Spare Change. Or you can keep the basic version but its cool to know that you can get options on request if budget permits.
@@therealshaneleeShane I think it's a good match for you in your room, sealed, amp size and dual 18" driver's to get dramatic theatre bass. Congrats :)
I have 2 FV18’s and love them. Tons of tactile response. They are considerably larger than the F18 given their ported design. Glad to see Shane reviewing some Rythmiks.
That's super awesome! Gotta love those super deep digging subs. I'm all about the 18 inch + subs, smaller drivers simply don't pressurize my room. Servo technology is insane, I swear it's the future of good sub design but so many manufacturers stay away from it. It's nice to see a name like Rythmik show the others how it's done with this technology.
I’ve had a rythmik fv15 for maybe 7 years now or very close... thing is thunderous for a lightweight amp. Their customer service is amazing... they actually reached out to me not too long ago and serviced the amp free of charge because there was concerns about something... blew my mind because I feel most companies cut ties once the product is delivered outside of the consumer contracting for warranty services... RUclips has some great rythmik videos of people rattling their homes from outside
Got the same email for mine. When I went to take the amp out I discovered the fuse was already blown. It's 1 of 3 subs in my room and with 3 young kids in the house and always listening at low volumes these days I hadn't realized it wasn't working anymore. Replaced the fuse and it burned up the moment I plugged the rca cable back in without a source even playing and the sub still in standby. Wonder what the issue is.
Awesome vid! I'm running four Rythmiks (dual FVX15s and dual L12s) and keep all of them on high dampening. It gives you a tighter and quicker response - which makes it better for both movies and music in my opinion. I love my Rythmiks; I can't foresee ever going to any other sub.
@Espiritiv Nah. JTRs are gonna be louder than all get out - crazy SPL numbers, but I don't think they'll have the same level of articulation as Rythmiks. It's hard to beat the articulation of a servo sub. At the end of the day, why have subs capable of significant SPL levels if it's more than you'll ever use? Once integrated with your system, you'll end up with too much overhead. Which is a waste.
Yes!!! I use dual JTR Captivator 1400 18” subs in my theater. At the time they were $1899 a piece with a discount for buying 2. Once you go with a competent 18” sub and in duals, things start getting fun!
I notice during setup you set the damping to low. You mentioned you were not getting the quickness and initial punch like the smaller subs. It may be related to the low damping setting. Have you tried the Hi damping setting? That may fix that for you.
I think it strange to not get these subs tight bass responds. So I think he might have to set it differently in order to get these big boys tight. Servo subs with good settings are always tight.
Shane, Great video! Skin-tingling ultra-sonics and your comedic timing, priceless! I've been daring the idea of JTR subs, but they're sooo huge and bit more costly. After this video and the price I may have to check Rhythmic again. Thanks for the quality work.
I added two F18 to my 20x23 theater room about 18 months ago. I don’t regret the purchase. I moved my original Paradigm subwoofer to the back corner to help out taming the room modes.
Great review! I’ve run a pair of the ported Rythmik FV18’s for several years, combined with 4x RBH SV-1212NR’s (SVTR’s)! Excellent setup for both movies and music! Glad to see Rythmik subs getting some attention! I think they are by far the best subs for the money!
Was just thinking this. He puts it on what should be the slowest settings and then says it could be faster... lol. Follow up with 18hz high damping pls!
@@therealshanelee Maybe we both missed it, but I didn't hear you mention anything about the performance with any settings other than 12hz/low damping. My ported FVX15 on 1p/Music setting is excellent, seems like this sealed design should be as good if not better, so it was surprising to hear you wouldn't recommend it for a music setup.
The accuracy of servo subs take some getting used to. Most subs are bloated, a lot of what we perceive as output is distortion or inaccuracy. One you get used to it most subs sound bad. I had to listen to a lot of music that I know very well when I started noticing other instruments that were buried in the sound by my older sub. Love servo subs I would like to hear some dipole subs as well as an IB setup but I live in the sticks
@Dude Man I prefer sealed over ported. My room is only 19x13. 50/50 movies to music. If your floor is on concrete or you have a huge room I would stick with ported.
@@run4b33r tough decision but I'd probably still go sealed unless your a complete bass head. I'm really bias when it comes to sealed subs especially after owning ported in the past. Then again they weren't good ported brands.
Thanks for the Rythmik F18 review we have all been waiting for! I have had my eye on these for my media room. It was disappointing that it performed better for theater than music, which seems to be the opposite of their claim to fame. I am a music first person, but that Edge of Tomorrow clip was the most impressive I have ever witnessed. It does appear to be an extremely controlled subwoofer.
Really? They are 18 inch woofers and cannot be expected to sound as punchy as a smaller driver especially a 12 inch. I suggest you look at the g22 or g25 then.
Shane you say that F18 are not as tight as you suppose, but this is because you use a wrong setting. If you want them to be more tight and musical you should set DAMPING to high and NOT low !! With damping set to high they will become the more controlled and tight subwoofer you have ever heard. I'm telling you since I bought F18 two years ago. However my compliment for the good review and awesome channel !
Thanks for the answer Shane, probably a 12 inch sub in opposite config is still faster than a 18" even with direct servo. Have you used the same EQ for both ? Because probaly also the PBK EQ of ML could have made the difference...
@@therealshanelee Shane, I was trying to find some objective measurement showing me your findings, but if I look at any impulse response and group delay in Data-bass measurement I could not find anything indicating that F18 is not "tight" and "fast" as bass response: data-bass.com/#/systems/5ad778f92d279a0004669a18?_k=icaddn I suspect there is more an issue of your room handling the subsonic frequency of F18, that the ML 212 is not capable of.
@@emanuele747 are you making judgements based on numbers or have you owned both in your room and made judgements that way? I have both. I've also listened to both.
Finally on the Rythmik train! 2 weeks ago I asked for a review, that was a quick turnaround time. Not sure if you were joking 2 weeks ago saying you never heard of them, but as always, thanks for another great video. Maybe Nemo pressured you as well.
I Have 1 FV18 in a 1400 Cu Ft room, and it fills it nicely. (I do have a separate LFE run for a second one once I can afford a second). Looking forward to seeing how this performs with ARC Genesis on the Anthem 1140.
I ended up choosing the Rythmik F12G. The difference with these is they are designed for music. They use a GR Research driver, low-mass paper cone, so they are very VERY fast. Also bass extends cleanly down to 15Hz with a gradual roll off below that (typical for most Rythmik models). Now on my AV system for movies it is just as impactful as what you experienced with F18, but with music the speed really shows off in the F12G. I found this to be the best sub they make. I had the F18 you show in this video, and found the same limitations you experienced. This is why I switched to the F12G and it hits all the marks. It's sort of a sleeper model for Rythmik. You may want to try and review the F12G, especially since you like the REL (which I had also). I do prefer the F12G. Power might be a limiting factor for you since these only use the 370W amp. However, in my room with two I experienced no issues power wise.
I'm torn between the Rythmiks and JTR RS1 sealed subs. I want both detail and clarity in the bass and showcase sub 20 hz for music, plus room shaking bass for movies. Still can't decide which route to go...
Factor in the servo advantage for lowest distortion on the market and the SOTA Hypex amps being more efficient than REL and SVS amps (won't trip a 15 amp breaker like other jumbo subs) and it's a no brainer. These are the best big sub value for theater.
Bought a Rythmik FVX15 and it is the best thing I have bought for my HT system. Not so good for my wife's knick-knacks, it tend to vibrate them off the walls at high volumes. Looked and SVS and HSU but they just didn't do it for me. Had A Def Tech PF1500 that was the first sub I bought and it still works 25+ years later but sounds sloppy when switching between the two. Now I need to get a 12" sealed one for my Magnapan setup for music. The Def Tech is now on my son's video game setup.
I wonder how he had the settings on the back. Rythmik allows for a lot of fine tuning. I've never heard of them being slow for music. The f12 is amazing for music. I can't imagine the f18 being anything but better.
I've been considering the possibility of upgrading the subs in my 2 channel system after we move this summer. I currently have dual SVS SB-3000's but two F18's are what I'm hoping to have adequate space for! The SB3K's are incredible at delivering maximum performance out of a 15" cube, but I want the kind of spl's that only larger drivers can deliver. I'd love to keep the SVS's for my second system that's in our bedroom but I'll have to approach that conversation with the wife very cautiously, Lmao!
I have the exact same set up 2 rhythmic 18s, at 1st I was experiencing the same thing they not as tight in music, one day after about 2 months of breaking them in I noticed that they sounded a whole lot better and quicker so my suggestion would be let them break in properly Because they are extremely stiff when you 1st get them and you should be fine, I play everything from bass heavy eighties early nineties rapp to 60s 70s and eighties classic rock,,,,, And they are awesome once they are loosened and broken in properly,
At the beginning you were carrying that box was funny...🤣 ,but yes when i get my subs down to 10 or 7 hz boy you get that tingling hair stand up on my forearms also oh yeah 18inch in the house..great review 👏
It's hard to get excited about powered subs once you go dyi. It's pay 2-4 times as much for half the power(tossing 2000 watts at 4 ohms at mine), in exchange for plug and play and pretty looks. A large sub like that needs like a month to loosen up and break in.
I can tell you right now shane will not bring in a psa unless he buys them.i think the psa are better but not by much...i only did not get the rythik is because i didn't like the servo technology it has...so i went psa and boy sometimes i wish i didn't cause man these psa i have are scary..i have 2 seal psa with 4 18inch ipal subwoofer...they don't play around and i play them halfway on volume, and till today i never dare go full volume...good luck...i wish shane dare to get psa i dare him....i got review on the psa from youthman, but the woofers on that one was the old extreme woofers..
@@blueflame0003 What psa models do you have ? I’m super torn between psa and rythmik I want a sealed subwoofer I think but I’m curious if a ported would be better
@@chrisrichardson958 hi chris the psa S3612 its not the same as the F18 ...for one ,i got the ipal woofers, 2 these are 2 opposing 18inch and i pay 5999 each g or them...now i relie on youthman review for those seal subs at the time were the old version S3611 he review with the extreme woofers. The the one comparing to the F18 would be the psa S1812 look at the web site they are very similar in price, and the F18 looks pretty comparing texture finish...i just didn't want to buy into the servo technology,...good luck my friend...plus i never felt sonic pressure before, and im addicted..
Hey Shane, I love ya man…but yea…that must be an empty box. Now to your SPOT-on review. I was leaning towards a pair of HSU VTF 15H MK2 because of my brother-in-law who has them in his awesome HT. After researching and especially watching your review, 2 months ago, I landed on a pair of RYTHMIK F18s which are absolutely inspiring. Now, watching the opening 7mins of Swordfish has never felt so earth quakingly GOOD. Thank you!!
@@mgrajkumar1 The performance in my home theater is outstanding. The dimension of my room is 14’Wx27’Dx9’H ceiling. The sound is deep, tight and powerful. Watching movies now takes on another dimension and interestingly enough they are just as good with handling music. Jazz is my genre of choice and I have found the bass to be incredibly accurate and tight. My feelings, I don't believe you can wrong with purchasing the FVX12.
@@greycodes how do i like them my psa s3612. Love them my room is 19x25...i only have2 but they are 4 18inch duel opposing subs...very dangerous watchout...🥴
I bought two of the ported versions of these FV18’s , with the optional paper cones, which ups output by 3 Db’s. There’s no looking back, they’re sublime.
@@blueflame0003 Sorry, but you are incorrect. There isn't a frequency tested between 10hz and 125hz where the F18 beats the FV18 at Data-bass.com (not even considering the paper cone version which increases output further from the tested normal version), whether under max output, or CEA-2010 measurements. But they are quite close all things considered.
@@blueflame0003 But for music, most people wouldn't argue the fact that sealed has the edge over ported. But Rythmik Ported subs are monsters, and stop on a dime, given the servo control.
@@clintstuckey yes i did research on these rythimik before i bought my psa,because for those that don't know...there are videos of these in action you got to look hard on utube some people complain that there are no review and so i went with psa S3612 cause of the servo technology i did want to do the snake on cables but hey so far no complaints on both sides,oh by the way as far as music or theater its up to your settings you set for theater or music if you have the equipment great job thought
@@clintstuckey you must be referring that comment to another commenter i did not say anything that i can recall about frequency must someone else that's confuse, but i will say in house psa is 7hz....and that maybe true but use my adjustments using REW i got them dial in at 10hz and that stands the up on my forearm...oh yeah
The F18 subwoofer will have significantly more SPL than a PSA subwoofer, a PSA with its PA driver never comes close to the output of an F18, the ones that also have or more SPL are the JTR subwoofers! :-)
I have the fv15hp2 and it is very musical. But can do 90+% of what the 18 can do. Seems like the best of both worlds. I will always go more for accuracy then spl output for my setups though! love rythmik subs!
For Music i would think you would need a larger room to get the full impact of a woofer that size or you may need to be seated further a way with fundamental bass notes. I remember selling car audio and 8" Bass drivers had more impact in the car and 12" subs sounded better outside of the car for impact than in the car itself. I am wondering if that would the situation at least for music in the home. Maybe try walking right outside of the room and see if you feel more impact ? i could be all wet on that. I do own their 12" sealed aluminum driver woofer and in my room it is all that i need. Things start falling off the walls.
Hello! I hope this comment finds you in a well state, our family is planning to get a home theater and we were wondering, after watching your video, is the F18 or FV18 better for our home theater? I would appreciate it if you respond. (Only if you have time)
Thank You for such an amazing review. In the research I have done, this sub i have always come back too. It is the sub I am currently saving for. Thank You for the review, it is one of the first creditable reviews I have seen and it has answered many of my questions. Now I can't wait until the day its in my theatre!!! Thanks for the much appreciated insight on them 👍 😀!!
I bought 1 of there 1st vented 18s, years ago. Weather from pushing it too far or lightning damage. They had me send amp in and amp was fine. Saying my driver had burned up, which is very rare. Even being past the warranty he had me pay shipping and gave me the option of the new paper cone. Which I took and they replaced the driver fir nothing the owner and customer service is second to none! I spoke with Tom of PSA about a second woofer and I give him credit the man didn't lie or try to sell me, and warned me of the SVS over bought publicly. I have had the police called 4 times and had to go to court with sound measurements, and got it dropped with agreement to turn it off by 7. This review should have waited to work in the 18 mine took 2 months to properly break in. We measured levels just under 11hrz. But sub crawl must be properly done but when Tom said to purchase a 2nd Ryth. I knew it was something special that his 18 is good but down low the Rythmik will dig deeper and dont mix subs. But I warn you neighbors will complain about bass shaking from movies cause the low output sucks the glass in my house in and out and I do try to keep neighbors happy. I'm 48 and after years of subs I'll stick with this brand for life.
Great review and perfect timing! I currently have dual F12SE and looking to upgrade. Currently testing out a pair of FV15HPs. They certainly have more output and have a smoother deeper sound than the sealed 12". But I do notice that the FV15HPs have less chest hitting punch or sharply defined attack. They are still fast and not flabby at all. Just smoother, deeper, and less sharply defined as the smaller 12" sealed. I am not sure if this a function of driver size or sealed vs ported? You mentioned you lost some of the punch in the F18s but the visceral depth and power was certainly there correct? Or are you shifting your observation with more listening that the F18s are indeed punchy and fast?
I think it is important to note that this is a good example of why these is not a one size fits all solution sub. With your smaller speakers, it is difficult to obtain some of the sound characteristics you desire using 18's. Your clearly noted the benefits on the Lower frequencies but also noticed a gap. You may find 18's integrate better with speakers with much lower extension. With the Trinnov at the helm, getting the right mix of speakers can yield the best of both worlds. As you noted, the room plays a significant role as well. You are on the right track.
Yeah,I've heard of Rythmik. I wish I could get my hands on these,but an American living in Europe? The shipping cost alone plus customs would kill ya!!! Great review and I'm with you on that vinyl....
Wow ..that's a good thought.. Hey Europe what subs do you have access to...i was wondering about that....unless a company here in America says free shipping, even when i buy something on ebay or Amazon i always buy the one cheaper and free shipping thks ahead
@@blueflame0003 You can buy SVS here in Europe. I have 2 PB 13 Ultra's. SVS is all over the world,but a lot of other brands are exclusively sold in the U.S..
@@gsmd770 oh good you see i just sent svs a msg this week thanking them for thinking about the smaller guys with budget friendly subwoofer like the 1000 pro they announced this week...that's great so you do have a good speaker company taking care of European great to hear it my friend. Thks
Great review Shane 👍🏼 Do you think you can maybe add your impressions with the performance of one sub sounds on your room as well? This way for those who can't spring for 2 at one time can get both opinions. Thx
Shane... dual Rythmik F18 or dual KEF KF92 for a room that is 14x24 with open staircase (no door). I don't play movies super loud, but I do raise volume to a nice level at times to give a more immersive feel as done in theaters.
Ive had smaller Rhytmik in my somewhat large room 19x 30 x9, as well as REL,Arendal , Klipsch (the podcaster who has big klipsch and JTRs homes in his theater si definitely onto something -i don’t have that space-but like him , I can’t recommend klipsch subs in this level of competition) and SVS (but boot to be fair JTR,PSA or JL) Shane is spot on in emphasizing you have to consider what subs use will be -for pure music, always go REL, then Arendal. For pure home theater , Rhythmik is better value than SVS, eps if you dont need room correction (ie esp you have ARC, or Direc in your processor) . I have not auditioned the latest Arendal which has gone up in price but Shane was suitably impressed; the earlier version
@@therealshanelee Yeah I think the servo sways me to the F18. I currently have 2 SVS PC2000s and a BOSS setup for TR, I'm thinking of initially adding dual F18s into the room and seeing how it goes. I use a minidsp and REW so I feel comfortable with the integration.
@@DG51440 The F18's make it feel like I have Crowsons still installed under my seats. And in my walls. They will destroy the PB2000's in every way. No offense to the 2000's.
@@therealshanelee oh yeah for sure, I will end up selling them but will be good to see how it is all together and then separately. Just for curiosity sake.
While I haven't had a chance to hear the FV18's, I do have dual FV15HP's in my home theater. Love the sound Rythmik produces for home theater and gaming!
Hi SpareChange May I ask how you set up your subwoofer? How did you set your crossover crossover frequency and when does your subwoofer start playing. When I watch Fury, my SB3000 Sub only plays when there are explosions or Tank/german pak firing. Normal gun fire is only output through my speakers and a bit of sub in the background.
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Shane has gotten stronger in his deadlifts I see! 😏 Great review as always my friend!
Shane how does it compare to JTR?
Just kidding my friend we all know how much you love JTR'S and their sketchy customer service.
Great review as always :)
Shane will you be keeping or selling? Rythmik here in Australia let you choose your options, bigger amp, better PEQ, better cabinet, extra bracing, finishes even upgraded driver.
So many options etc if you have the Spare Change. Or you can keep the basic version but its cool to know that you can get options on request if budget permits.
@@Cybertron-cs7sk I'll be keeping them for the time being until something else peaks my interest.
@@therealshaneleeShane I think it's a good match for you in your room, sealed, amp size and dual 18" driver's to get dramatic theatre bass. Congrats :)
Came for the review, stayed for the reactions haha. Great review, man
You also have very good reviews keep up the good work
I have 2 FV18’s and love them. Tons of tactile response. They are considerably larger than the F18 given their ported design. Glad to see Shane reviewing some Rythmiks.
Hello! I have a question, is the FV18 compatible with everything?
@@gopalramanujam3141 What kind of question is that?
That's super awesome! Gotta love those super deep digging subs. I'm all about the 18 inch + subs, smaller drivers simply don't pressurize my room. Servo technology is insane, I swear it's the future of good sub design but so many manufacturers stay away from it. It's nice to see a name like Rythmik show the others how it's done with this technology.
Man, your expressions during listening were priceless! You actually have convinced me to try this sub. Thanks for the review.
I’ve had a rythmik fv15 for maybe 7 years now or very close... thing is thunderous for a lightweight amp.
Their customer service is amazing... they actually reached out to me not too long ago and serviced the amp free of charge because there was concerns about something... blew my mind because I feel most companies cut ties once the product is delivered outside of the consumer contracting for warranty services...
RUclips has some great rythmik videos of people rattling their homes from outside
Got the same email for mine. When I went to take the amp out I discovered the fuse was already blown. It's 1 of 3 subs in my room and with 3 young kids in the house and always listening at low volumes these days I hadn't realized it wasn't working anymore.
Replaced the fuse and it burned up the moment I plugged the rca cable back in without a source even playing and the sub still in standby. Wonder what the issue is.
Awesome vid! I'm running four Rythmiks (dual FVX15s and dual L12s) and keep all of them on high dampening. It gives you a tighter and quicker response - which makes it better for both movies and music in my opinion. I love my Rythmiks; I can't foresee ever going to any other sub.
Im looking at two Rythmic F18s, or Two JTR RS1. Have you seen any direct comparisons?
@Espiritiv Nah. JTRs are gonna be louder than all get out - crazy SPL numbers, but I don't think they'll have the same level of articulation as Rythmiks. It's hard to beat the articulation of a servo sub. At the end of the day, why have subs capable of significant SPL levels if it's more than you'll ever use? Once integrated with your system, you'll end up with too much overhead. Which is a waste.
Yes!!! I use dual JTR Captivator 1400 18” subs in my theater. At the time they were $1899 a piece with a discount for buying 2.
Once you go with a competent 18” sub and in duals, things start getting fun!
What a steal considering the price on JTR nowadays
Would you go for two RS1's or two rythmik F18s for the money?
@@Espiritiv I’d go for the RS1s, as they have more power and can handle a bit more abuse.
@@jarodreddig63 makes sense. I think the rs1s would last 20 years easy just like the m&k mx-350s they will be replacing.
I notice during setup you set the damping to low. You mentioned you were not getting the quickness and initial punch like the smaller subs. It may be related to the low damping setting. Have you tried the Hi damping setting? That may fix that for you.
Yupp, lowest HZ and lowest damping setting is the loosest/boomiest you can set the sub to.
I think it strange to not get these subs tight bass responds. So I think he might have to set it differently in order to get these big boys tight. Servo subs with good settings are always tight.
Im thinking paper cone ported with medium dampening would be the ideal compromise for movies and music
Shane, Great video! Skin-tingling ultra-sonics and your comedic timing, priceless! I've been daring the idea of JTR subs, but they're sooo huge and bit more costly. After this video and the price I may have to check Rhythmic again. Thanks for the quality work.
Hulk shakes his head seeing you carrying this sub so easily.
Dude, thank you for finally being one of the only reviews I've found on this sub! 👍🏻👍🏻
For real it's hard finding info on these subs everybody has gobs of info on svs
I added two F18 to my 20x23 theater room about 18 months ago. I don’t regret the purchase. I moved my original Paradigm subwoofer to the back corner to help out taming the room modes.
How did you integrate the Paradigm sub to these F18?
I use a miniDSP with the LFE output from my preamp.
what Paradigm sub do you have? Was considering the X15 or the Rythmik F18
It is an original Servo 15 from about 1998.
Good times for consumers! I’m also impressed by the 255 lbs. Monolith dual-15 inch THX sub for $2,500
That's some serious bass FOMO. Good to see you review home theatre stuff nowadays. Amir video was highly informative
Just got a 77 inch C2, keep up the good work.
4:38 nice transition from the voice over to the 1st person... good job! 😉
Great review! I’ve run a pair of the ported Rythmik FV18’s for several years, combined with 4x RBH SV-1212NR’s (SVTR’s)! Excellent setup for both movies and music! Glad to see Rythmik subs getting some attention! I think they are by far the best subs for the money!
Fyi on high damping it's quick as quick can be. Perfect for music.
Was just thinking this. He puts it on what should be the slowest settings and then says it could be faster... lol. Follow up with 18hz high damping pls!
You guys honestly think I took it out of the box and used that single setting and called it a day?
@@therealshanelee Maybe we both missed it, but I didn't hear you mention anything about the performance with any settings other than 12hz/low damping. My ported FVX15 on 1p/Music setting is excellent, seems like this sealed design should be as good if not better, so it was surprising to hear you wouldn't recommend it for a music setup.
@@Zachary_Setzer 03:40
The accuracy of servo subs take some getting used to. Most subs are bloated, a lot of what we perceive as output is distortion or inaccuracy. One you get used to it most subs sound bad.
I had to listen to a lot of music that I know very well when I started noticing other instruments that were buried in the sound by my older sub. Love servo subs I would like to hear some dipole subs as well as an IB setup but I live in the sticks
Best Shane reaction faces yet!!
😂👍
I watch your videos not only for the info but for the top tier acting 😁
Thanks. One of the best review videos I have yet watched. Keep up the good work!
Great video with detailed information Shane! I don't know how I missed it!
I have a pair of Rythmik E15s and they are awesome! Nice to see this review - Rythmik makes great subs!
I also have dual F18s. For the price point they are phenomenal. Great video!
@Dude Man I prefer sealed over ported. My room is only 19x13. 50/50 movies to music. If your floor is on concrete or you have a huge room I would stick with ported.
@@chadhunter8757 what about a medium sized room with carper over concrete? Still ported over sealed?
@@run4b33r tough decision but I'd probably still go sealed unless your a complete bass head. I'm really bias when it comes to sealed subs especially after owning ported in the past. Then again they weren't good ported brands.
Thanks for the Rythmik F18 review we have all been waiting for! I have had my eye on these for my media room. It was disappointing that it performed better for theater than music, which seems to be the opposite of their claim to fame. I am a music first person, but that Edge of Tomorrow clip was the most impressive I have ever witnessed. It does appear to be an extremely controlled subwoofer.
He did have damping on low which I believe is the least "tight" setting.
Really? They are 18 inch woofers and cannot be expected to sound as punchy as a smaller driver especially a 12 inch.
I suggest you look at the g22 or g25 then.
@@mesonto not completely tru. Check this out: data-bass.com/#/articles/5cbf5e7357f7140004d6d0ec?_k=eeckpa
Better cheap finish, and more quality 'in the box' than the other way around.
Shane ,
Thank you so much for reviewing these !!! These have been on my radar I’m going to be purchasing two
Awesome let me know how they work out.
@@therealshanelee
Absolutely my friend
Shane you say that F18 are not as tight as you suppose, but this is because you use a wrong setting.
If you want them to be more tight and musical you should set DAMPING to high and NOT low !!
With damping set to high they will become the more controlled and tight subwoofer you have ever heard.
I'm telling you since I bought F18 two years ago.
However my compliment for the good review and awesome channel !
Put them against the MartinLogan 212’s on high damping. No contest.
Thanks for the answer Shane, probably a 12 inch sub in opposite config is still faster than a 18" even with direct servo.
Have you used the same EQ for both ?
Because probaly also the PBK EQ of ML could have made the difference...
@@emanuele747 the ML is tighter in any configuration.
@@therealshanelee Shane, I was trying to find some objective measurement showing me your findings, but if I look at any impulse response and group delay in Data-bass measurement I could not find anything indicating that F18 is not "tight" and "fast" as bass response:
data-bass.com/#/systems/5ad778f92d279a0004669a18?_k=icaddn
I suspect there is more an issue of your room handling the subsonic frequency of F18, that the ML 212 is not capable of.
@@emanuele747 are you making judgements based on numbers or have you owned both in your room and made judgements that way? I have both. I've also listened to both.
Finally on the Rythmik train! 2 weeks ago I asked for a review, that was a quick turnaround time. Not sure if you were joking 2 weeks ago saying you never heard of them, but as always, thanks for another great video. Maybe Nemo pressured you as well.
I Have 1 FV18 in a 1400 Cu Ft room, and it fills it nicely. (I do have a separate LFE run for a second one once I can afford a second). Looking forward to seeing how this performs with ARC Genesis on the Anthem 1140.
Edge of Tomorrow, Subwoofer of the day.
Love your channel and those Subs review, keep them coming man!
I ended up choosing the Rythmik F12G. The difference with these is they are designed for music. They use a GR Research driver, low-mass paper cone, so they are very VERY fast. Also bass extends cleanly down to 15Hz with a gradual roll off below that (typical for most Rythmik models). Now on my AV system for movies it is just as impactful as what you experienced with F18, but with music the speed really shows off in the F12G. I found this to be the best sub they make. I had the F18 you show in this video, and found the same limitations you experienced. This is why I switched to the F12G and it hits all the marks. It's sort of a sleeper model for Rythmik. You may want to try and review the F12G, especially since you like the REL (which I had also). I do prefer the F12G. Power might be a limiting factor for you since these only use the 370W amp. However, in my room with two I experienced no issues power wise.
I'm torn between the Rythmiks and JTR RS1 sealed subs. I want both detail and clarity in the bass and showcase sub 20 hz for music, plus room shaking bass for movies. Still can't decide which route to go...
@synth505 I'm trying to decide between the same to subs as you. Did you pick one yet? If so which one and how do you like it so far?
Killing it Shane...keep them coming man!
JTR & JL better step up with some test samples next...? #JLAudio #JTR
Just got a pretty good deal on one with piano black finish and silver cone. On the lookout out for another now!
Another good review Shane. Enjoyed this one. Rythmik makes great subs indeed.
Great review, been eyeing these for some time.
I have a single F18, I use my setup 90% of the time for movies and it has been great. I’m planning to add a 2nd one eventually.
Two is always better than one ✌️
Try telling that to the wife 😅
I don't believe the intro. Shane, you damn well know that box is empty. You're not built like that bruh.😂
I was going to say the same thing either this sub is made of cardboard or its empty lol
@@taxi615 🤣🤣
He's done that a few times...always hilarious...must be all that MMA watching he does haha
@@Roo-n9j 🤪🤪 for sure
I agree my psa weight 137lb without box so yeah intro was funny, thats Hollywood shane
JTR next please! Awesome review man!
Great review!!
Purchased based on your recommendation.
@@therealshanelee now you have to try the FV25hp behemoth :D. They only weigh 210lbs each, should be easy 😰
More folks should review rythmik stuff imo
you making me want to rewatch fury again! great review :)
Factor in the servo advantage for lowest distortion on the market and the SOTA Hypex amps being more efficient than REL and SVS amps (won't trip a 15 amp breaker like other jumbo subs) and it's a no brainer. These are the best big sub value for theater.
Good point on the AMP draw, particularly with the 12 and 15 inch woofers.
Bought a Rythmik FVX15 and it is the best thing I have bought for my HT system. Not so good for my wife's knick-knacks, it tend to vibrate them off the walls at high volumes. Looked and SVS and HSU but they just didn't do it for me. Had A Def Tech PF1500 that was the first sub I bought and it still works 25+ years later but sounds sloppy when switching between the two. Now I need to get a 12" sealed one for my Magnapan setup for music. The Def Tech is now on my son's video game setup.
Saw your vid, 10 days later bought one for myself. I let them know you sent me
Keep us posted
@@therealshanelee bought a FV18 got it on the 14th day. It is so awesome! I am Soo pleased! It bumps and girlfriend was amazed also.
@@chrizekiel awesome. They have killer subs for a reasonable price.
How are you liking them? I bought 2 last night but they are on back order until the end of the month.
@@wking8 reAlly like what I got. Looks and sound.makes me feel like a kid
Appreciate the quick & succinct review style Shane. Very happy with dual REL HT-1205's for a music-only setup.
It's amazing a sealed sub can go that low. Guess this will be my next sub.
Sealed subs generally go lower than ported - ported just go louder at tuned frequencies then drop off quicker.
I wonder how he had the settings on the back. Rythmik allows for a lot of fine tuning. I've never heard of them being slow for music. The f12 is amazing for music. I can't imagine the f18 being anything but better.
He said he used LOW damping...
I've been considering the possibility of upgrading the subs in my 2 channel system after we move this summer. I currently have dual SVS SB-3000's but two F18's are what I'm hoping to have adequate space for! The SB3K's are incredible at delivering maximum performance out of a 15" cube, but I want the kind of spl's that only larger drivers can deliver. I'd love to keep the SVS's for my second system that's in our bedroom but I'll have to approach that conversation with the wife very cautiously, Lmao!
I have the exact same set up 2 rhythmic 18s, at 1st I was experiencing the same thing they not as tight in music, one day after about 2 months of breaking them in I noticed that they sounded a whole lot better and quicker so my suggestion would be let them break in properly Because they are extremely stiff when you 1st get them and you should be fine,
I play everything from bass heavy eighties early nineties rapp to 60s 70s and eighties classic rock,,,,,
And they are awesome once they are loosened and broken in properly,
At the beginning you were carrying that box was funny...🤣 ,but yes when i get my subs down to 10 or 7 hz boy you get that tingling hair stand up on my forearms also oh yeah 18inch in the house..great review 👏
It's hard to get excited about powered subs once you go dyi. It's pay 2-4 times as much for half the power(tossing 2000 watts at 4 ohms at mine), in exchange for plug and play and pretty looks. A large sub like that needs like a month to loosen up and break in.
Love the excitement you have with new gear Shane! Would be good to see you compare against some PSA subs as well
I can tell you right now shane will not bring in a psa unless he buys them.i think the psa are better but not by much...i only did not get the rythik is because i didn't like the servo technology it has...so i went psa and boy sometimes i wish i didn't cause man these psa i have are scary..i have 2 seal psa with 4 18inch ipal subwoofer...they don't play around and i play them halfway on volume, and till today i never dare go full volume...good luck...i wish shane dare to get psa i dare him....i got review on the psa from youthman, but the woofers on that one was the old extreme woofers..
You know thinking about it yeah psa has a small 18inch i think the s1811 or s1812.that would be a fair comparison yes
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What psa models do you have ? I’m super torn between psa and rythmik I want a sealed subwoofer I think but I’m curious if a ported would be better
@@chrisrichardson958 hi chris the psa S3612 its not the same as the F18 ...for one ,i got the ipal woofers, 2 these are 2 opposing 18inch and i pay 5999 each g or them...now i relie on youthman review for those seal subs at the time were the old version S3611 he review with the extreme woofers. The the one comparing to the F18 would be the psa S1812 look at the web site they are very similar in price, and the F18 looks pretty comparing texture finish...i just didn't want to buy into the servo technology,...good luck my friend...plus i never felt sonic pressure before, and im addicted..
Sorry wrong price...its 2999 each 5999 is what i paid for the 2...
Love your videos, thanks.
Hey Shane, I love ya man…but yea…that must be an empty box. Now to your SPOT-on review. I was leaning towards a pair of HSU VTF 15H MK2 because of my brother-in-law who has them in his awesome HT. After researching and especially watching your review, 2 months ago, I landed on a pair of RYTHMIK F18s which are absolutely inspiring. Now, watching the opening 7mins of Swordfish has never felt so earth quakingly GOOD. Thank you!!
How is the rythmik performance? Can you share your views. Iam planning to buy fvx12 modrl
@@mgrajkumar1 The performance in my home theater is outstanding. The dimension of my room is 14’Wx27’Dx9’H ceiling. The sound is deep, tight and powerful. Watching movies now takes on another dimension and interestingly enough they are just as good with handling music. Jazz is my genre of choice and I have found the bass to be incredibly accurate and tight. My feelings, I don't believe you can wrong with purchasing the FVX12.
I’m looking at getting F18s. Are they punchy and quick? Do they ever leave you wanting more?
@@southpaw9995 In my opinion Yes, they are punchy and quick. No! My F18s have never left my body or my ears wanting or even thinking I need more.
@@calvino9050 your room is considerably larger than mine so that’s good to hear.
Stop skipping leg days Shane hahahaha. Love the review. Thanks man
I was shocked not to see Shane nominated for a Golden Globe for his acting chops🤣
Looking to purchase 2 F15HP’s for our home cinema. This was a great review; very informative. I’ve only seen one other rythmik review on RUclips.
Stop messing around and go straight for the f18's,you gonna do it later anyway 😉
How did you like them? I have a 13x13 room that they're probably overkill for, but I want... currently own a L12 and fiending for an upgrade
@@greycodes how do i like them my psa s3612. Love them my room is 19x25...i only have2 but they are 4 18inch duel opposing subs...very dangerous watchout...🥴
I bought two of the ported versions of these FV18’s , with the optional paper cones, which ups output by 3 Db’s. There’s no looking back, they’re sublime.
Seal goes down lower and maintain output...
@@blueflame0003 Sorry, but you are incorrect. There isn't a frequency tested between 10hz and 125hz where the F18 beats the FV18 at Data-bass.com (not even considering the paper cone version which increases output further from the tested normal version), whether under max output, or CEA-2010 measurements. But they are quite close all things considered.
@@blueflame0003 But for music, most people wouldn't argue the fact that sealed has the edge over ported. But Rythmik Ported subs are monsters, and stop on a dime, given the servo control.
@@clintstuckey yes i did research on these rythimik before i bought my psa,because for those that don't know...there are videos of these in action you got to look hard on utube some people complain that there are no review and so i went with psa S3612 cause of the servo technology i did want to do the snake on cables but hey so far no complaints on both sides,oh by the way as far as music or theater its up to your settings you set for theater or music if you have the equipment great job thought
@@clintstuckey you must be referring that comment to another commenter i did not say anything that i can recall about frequency must someone else that's confuse, but i will say in house psa is 7hz....and that maybe true but use my adjustments using REW i got them dial in at 10hz and that stands the up on my forearm...oh yeah
I have these! I'm watching the video now.
Uh oh. I Better be prepared.
Shane getting stronger with every video💪💪
Great review as always...been eyeing these, but limited reviews out there. Would love to see a comparison with PSA S1812 pair...🤠
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The F18 subwoofer will have significantly more SPL than a PSA subwoofer, a PSA with its PA driver never comes close to the output of an F18, the ones that also have or more SPL are the JTR subwoofers! :-)
Good review. I LOVE my Rythmik 15" and I have it set to mid to give me a better balance of fast AND deep
Given that you tried this sub with all room correction off, do you think the punchiness could be enhanced with it calibrated?
Try the paper cones for better upper bass response
I have the fv15hp2 and it is very musical. But can do 90+% of what the 18 can do. Seems like the best of both worlds. I will always go more for accuracy then spl output for my setups though! love rythmik subs!
Best HT subwoofer Shane has in yet for review!?!?! That is a bold statement considering all the subs he has had in for review.
Probably should have said for the money.
Excellent review.
For Music i would think you would need a larger room to get the full impact of a woofer that size or you may need to be seated further a way with fundamental bass notes. I remember selling car audio and 8" Bass drivers had more impact in the car and 12" subs sounded better outside of the car for impact than in the car itself. I am wondering if that would the situation at least for music in the home. Maybe try walking right outside of the room and see if you feel more impact ? i could be all wet on that. I do own their 12" sealed aluminum driver woofer and in my room it is all that i need. Things start falling off the walls.
Hello! I hope this comment finds you in a well state, our family is planning to get a home theater and we were wondering, after watching your video, is the F18 or FV18 better for our home theater? I would appreciate it if you respond. (Only if you have time)
what model is better for music...and yes matte black would be nice
So it did edge of tomorrow better than the pb 16 ultra? Also did you prefer this or the REL 1508 predator on the fury demo?
That must sound Epic
Thank You for such an amazing review. In the research I have done, this sub i have always come back too. It is the sub I am currently saving for. Thank You for the review, it is one of the first creditable reviews I have seen and it has answered many of my questions. Now I can't wait until the day its in my theatre!!! Thanks for the much appreciated insight on them 👍 😀!!
Sounds like this has awesome performance!
I bought 1 of there 1st vented 18s, years ago. Weather from pushing it too far or lightning damage. They had me send amp in and amp was fine. Saying my driver had burned up, which is very rare. Even being past the warranty he had me pay shipping and gave me the option of the new paper cone. Which I took and they replaced the driver fir nothing the owner and customer service is second to none! I spoke with Tom of PSA about a second woofer and I give him credit the man didn't lie or try to sell me, and warned me of the SVS over bought publicly. I have had the police called 4 times and had to go to court with sound measurements, and got it dropped with agreement to turn it off by 7. This review should have waited to work in the 18 mine took 2 months to properly break in. We measured levels just under 11hrz. But sub crawl must be properly done but when Tom said to purchase a 2nd Ryth. I knew it was something special that his 18 is good but down low the Rythmik will dig deeper and dont mix subs. But I warn you neighbors will complain about bass shaking from movies cause the low output sucks the glass in my house in and out and I do try to keep neighbors happy. I'm 48 and after years of subs I'll stick with this brand for life.
Great review and perfect timing! I currently have dual F12SE and looking to upgrade. Currently testing out a pair of FV15HPs. They certainly have more output and have a smoother deeper sound than the sealed 12". But I do notice that the FV15HPs have less chest hitting punch or sharply defined attack. They are still fast and not flabby at all. Just smoother, deeper, and less sharply defined as the smaller 12" sealed. I am not sure if this a function of driver size or sealed vs ported? You mentioned you lost some of the punch in the F18s but the visceral depth and power was certainly there correct? Or are you shifting your observation with more listening that the F18s are indeed punchy and fast?
I think it is important to note that this is a good example of why these is not a one size fits all solution sub. With your smaller speakers, it is difficult to obtain some of the sound characteristics you desire using 18's. Your clearly noted the benefits on the Lower frequencies but also noticed a gap. You may find 18's integrate better with speakers with much lower extension. With the Trinnov at the helm, getting the right mix of speakers can yield the best of both worlds. As you noted, the room plays a significant role as well. You are on the right track.
Yeah,I've heard of Rythmik. I wish I could get my hands on these,but an American living in Europe? The shipping cost alone plus customs would kill ya!!! Great review and I'm with you on that vinyl....
Wow ..that's a good thought..
Hey Europe what subs do you have access to...i was wondering about that....unless a company here in America says free shipping, even when i buy something on ebay or Amazon i always buy the one cheaper and free shipping thks ahead
@@blueflame0003 You can buy SVS here in Europe. I have 2 PB 13 Ultra's. SVS is all over the world,but a lot of other brands are exclusively sold in the U.S..
@@gsmd770 oh good you see i just sent svs a msg this week thanking them for thinking about the smaller guys with budget friendly subwoofer like the 1000 pro they announced this week...that's great so you do have a good speaker company taking care of European great to hear it my friend. Thks
@@blueflame0003 NP.
Thanks for the review. How does this compare to their g25hp model?
No lie, I've been looking at this exact sub for a couple of years now. It might become mine this year or next. I'm taking this video as a sign lol
me too
Great review Shane 👍🏼 Do you think you can maybe add your impressions with the performance of one sub sounds on your room as well? This way for those who can't spring for 2 at one time can get both opinions. Thx
Shane... dual Rythmik F18 or dual KEF KF92 for a room that is 14x24 with open staircase (no door). I don't play movies super loud, but I do raise volume to a nice level at times to give a more immersive feel as done in theaters.
F18's all day.
@@therealshanelee Awesome thanks! I'd love to see a PSA sub review from you, but I think Tom at PSA doesn't send his subs out to reviewers.
Yea I run 4 subs in my home , I have two klipsch 12s rear ported and two 15inch subs that are sealed and it really shakes the place .
Ive had smaller Rhytmik in my somewhat large room 19x 30 x9, as well as REL,Arendal , Klipsch (the podcaster who has big klipsch and JTRs homes in his theater si definitely onto something -i don’t have that space-but like him , I can’t recommend klipsch subs in this level of competition) and SVS (but boot to be fair JTR,PSA or JL) Shane is spot on in emphasizing you have to consider what subs use will be -for pure music, always go REL, then Arendal. For pure home theater , Rhythmik is better value than SVS, eps if you dont need room correction (ie esp you have ARC, or Direc in your processor) . I have not auditioned the latest Arendal which has gone up in price but Shane was suitably impressed; the earlier version
Thank you Shane for a good demo/video and info 👍🏼👊🏼
Rythmik is on my list 🤞🏼 x2 E15HP2 🤞🏼 because of my room size 🙄😊
UK 🏴
I’ve been looking at the PSA 18s and the F18/FV18. Now watching this makes me want to buy them even more.
Do it. Do it now.
@@therealshanelee Yeah I think the servo sways me to the F18. I currently have 2 SVS PC2000s and a BOSS setup for TR, I'm thinking of initially adding dual F18s into the room and seeing how it goes. I use a minidsp and REW so I feel comfortable with the integration.
@@DG51440 The F18's make it feel like I have Crowsons still installed under my seats. And in my walls. They will destroy the PB2000's in every way. No offense to the 2000's.
@@therealshanelee oh yeah for sure, I will end up selling them but will be good to see how it is all together and then separately. Just for curiosity sake.
Music only system SVS SB16 or F18? Need most output/low end extension in large open space?
While I haven't had a chance to hear the FV18's, I do have dual FV15HP's in my home theater. Love the sound Rythmik produces for home theater and gaming!
Im trying to decide between dual f15 or dual fv15hp. Your thoughts
Any thoughts of the Seaton F18
Great review, would you recommend (2) of these subs over (2) JL audio fathom f113 v2’s?
Hi SpareChange
May I ask how you set up your subwoofer? How did you set your crossover crossover frequency and when does your subwoofer start playing. When I watch Fury, my SB3000 Sub only plays when there are explosions or Tank/german pak firing. Normal gun fire is only output through my speakers and a bit of sub in the background.
Good review, how does this sub compare to rel 1508 for movies and music?
What is this program he uses to play the movies?
For $2000, I’d expect something better than a vinyl wrap. At least some veneer or a high durability lacquer
The Gloss Black option is paint, that's why it's a premium option with a premium price.
great vid
Shane-agree with other posters- PSA should be next up (JTRs are great but really price wise not going to be on most your fans radar)
Yeah right the small psa sub would be a good comparison 👌
PSA TV2112
TV2112 wow...must be the new one i notice..yeah i see my ipal S3612 on the site..
Good stuff.how many 21 you got 1 2...4?
@@Eternal-2740 how many 21 you have?
Dang... best yet eh? Those are some good looking numbers! Nice video man. Would love to hear some Rythmik subs at some point
Mr 24 incher over here! Subs I'm talking about now 😁
@@therealshanelee glad we got that clarification 😅
Totally enjoyed this review! New sub here!