Jessi Hildebrandt speaks out about aunt Jodi's arrest on felony counts of child abuse
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2023
- Vlogger Ruby Franke, whose 8 Passengers RUclips channel had more than 2.6 million subscribers before it was taken down, along with her business partner Jodi Hildebrandt, founder of the Orem, Utah-based mental and emotional healing company Connexions Classroom, were arrested Wednesday on suspicion of multiple felony counts in a child abuse case out of Southern Utah.
Hildebrant's niece, Jessi Hildebrandt, speaks out to 2News' Brian Schnee about her experience with her aunt's philosophies. At one point, she said, Jessi was under the care of Jodi while a teenager.
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Thank you Jessi for speaking up for the 12 yr old. You did more than his father, who stayed silent during the accusations.
the father is just as bad as the mother unfortunately.
At the least, father Kevin did not seem to be in contact with his four minor children for over a year since he left home. A man can leave a marriage but cannot renounce all responsibility toward one’s minor children. Neighbors knew those children were neglected, his oldest daughter knew. Where was he then?! He shows up when there are cameras in front of his home? He needs to be charged. He alone could have protected his children, had he cared.
it won't help, this is happening to a great degree in schools nowadays destroy a student reputation label them "dangerous" there's no defence no proof required they remove them from elective classes so they cannot get the required credits. parents are powerless students have no defence and no one listens not in BC Canada anyway
He was told to stay silent. Let's stop the uninformed accusations until we know the whole story with the husband. If you're aware that it was a custody hearing, ask yourself how he and his lawyer could know what Ruby might say that proved her unfit, if he argued with her. His lawyer obviously needed to hear what Ruby would say in order to know how to defend his client. Instead his silence gave Ruby the rope to hang herself.
And if you've listened to Adam -?'s interview in which he describes Jodi's "treatment" for marriage counseling, remember that Ruby kicked her husband out over a year ago. Jodi's MO was to divide and conquer the husband and wife and destroy the marriages. We don't know if Ruby allowed him to see the children, if she was following Jodi's rules.
@@gointothedogs4634 he was fully complicit in and probably participated in the abuse that those kids experienced before he and Ruby split up, let’s not pretend that these kids haven’t been abused for years.
I had 3 sessions of therapy with Jodi Hildebrandt when I was seven years old. She told me I would never have a healthy relationship with a person for the rest of my life and that I would never get married. She also tried to get me to feel my trauma and make me feel horrible about myself. I believed what she told me for a really long time. Now I am 24 and pregnant with a man I love dearly. Evil people can try to break down children but we will always end up on top.
Thank you for sharing and I hope you can heal from this. Congrats on your pregnancy!
@kayleew2340 I hope you contact the prosecutor with your story you shared bc I have a feeling there are many more young victims of this horrid “mental health counselor” !! PLEASE do bc your story may help others come forward! Blessings and congrats on your beautiful life you deserved all along 😉
Sue her and let the Court know what she did to you.💓. She and ruby both are sadistic!
Jodi is a closet lesbian. She's the patient not the therapist. Jodi projects her own self onto her patients. She lashes out at men and harms the children. To symbolically get back at her ex husband and child.
But she is 100% a lesbian and at this point most likely into children at least teenagers. Jodi and Ruby are more than business partners.
Thank you I am healing:) I really appreciate it.
This young lady is a powerhouse. Her scars have turned to swords, and she knows exactly how to wield them. Truthful and eloquent. Her insights into the depth and skillfulness of Jodi Hildebrandt's manipulations ring clear as a bell. There is much to be admired in someone who endures such pain, yet remains so strong. May her path clear and bright.
Could not have said this better ❤
Beautiful and welll said!
Yes! Yes! Yes!! So true!
Jessi actually uses they/them pronouns and is non-binary, but I agree.
You’re an amazing writer.
She’s so well spoken. Thank you Jessi. Please know all the torture you went through has saved these children’s lives. They will hear this interview and be so thankful for you.
Exactly what I thought. Well spoken and courageous.
You’re amazing girl!
I bet she could suck a golf ball through a garden hose
Well spoken. Are you around idiots all day. This is common speak. Change the people you surround yourself with lol😂
I bet jodi sciccored the juice out of jessi on a regular. 😮
THIS is what hurts me the most about this. She is 100% correct, Ruby leveling accusations that her son is a straight up monster, predator and sex offender will never leave him. It’s her way of having control over him even in jail. Her children have been recorded saying they don’t have friends, now this boy is being sent to a home with no other kids because of her allegations. She’s still abusing him even without being there.
Interesting. There was someone else who called her son the same things when he was 10 years old. He was also locked in the basement as a child. Edmund Kemper aka the Co-Ed Killer. His mother hated him because he looked like his father who divorced her. If someone is evil enough to say these things to children over and over, the child will believe it and may eventually BECOME one. I hope they are getting these children therapy.
Also how can the judge have him put into a home without other kids without proof of this even happening? She is literally still causing him pain and a*use from her cell. Disgusting beyond belief.
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Yes and you can thank the system for not rescuing those kids when they were alerted many times.
@@carly9950I agree with you, however, once the accusation has been made, the judge has to be careful because if ANYthing happened to another child in the house (whether or not it was done by Ruby's child) there would be hell to pay. Ruby & Jodi deserve the most severe punishment possible.
Jessi I am a therapist of 32 years. You are beyond eloquent and poised in your description and integration of your own story. Praying for your ongoing healing as your voice is powerful and needs to be heard.
Here here. ❤
Ditto❤
I experienced a “addiction” program similar to what she describes (Maurice Harker -life changing services). They are so manipulative that it made me question reality and I would do anything to get out or stop the abuse. I am very impressed how well she describes these programs. They should be illegal.
I agree with you. Jessi is amazing. With all that’s being revealed about this evil Jessie is able to still come out to protect others, especially children, when this has to be such a trigger for her own trauma she had to go through.
Another thing, this is a reminder that whenever one goes to a therapist and you are not comfortable at the get go about the therapist- stop going no matter who recommended the therapist.
I had one session with a therapist that my OGYN had recommended and I had such an uneasy feeling talking to him that I never went back. I feel that if I had stayed I would have been worse off.
Once one starts going to a manipulative person the more you go the more you get manipulated.
I’m proud of Jessie and her bravery. She is very articulate and smart
Very articulate, rational, and well-spoken, which hopefully indicates that she has already been able to heal a lot from the terrible experiences she endured. I agree that eloquent is an understatement... hopefully also her words can help others with similar experiences to start healing.
Prosecutors seriously need Jessi to testify on these kids' behalf. And they should also allow her to bring a case against Jodi herself.
That'd be amazing, however with Utah and its LDS bend at about 65% of I believe every effort will be made by LDS members to minimize and 'make this go away.' Ruby, Kevin and Jodi will be protected as they have been since the beginning. The flock takes care of their own. I'm 100% certain right now the elders are filling E and R's ears with blame and shame for doing this to their parents and Jodi, people who just meant them "well."
The kids don't need anyone to testify on their behalf. There's more than enough evidence.
You can tell her experience is so vivid and accurate, no one knows/understands the psychology of an abuser more than the victim
Yep
Especially when they're calculated. SMH sometimes, trying to explain it to others, is overwhelming. My mom basically tried to get everyone to believe I was crazy because of a bipolar diagnosis she made sure I got when I was a child. My mom didn't go this far THANK GOD, but I pray for those babies.
Grateful the interviewer let her speak at length without interrupting. This is such a horrifying story and major props to Jessi for being so honest and speaking out publicly in support of these children. She is so well spoken and I can only imagine how much work she's had to do to heal.
It'll be an ongoing process.
@@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6uthen perhaps you should consider why you're the odd one out.
@@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u what does that have to do with anything?
@@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u Please. What a stupid, narrow-minded, and ignorant comment. This very beautiful, and highly intelligent woman has survived and built a life despite the systematic torture she endured, she survived. And here you are prattling away nonsensically about some tattoos and piercings??? HAHAHAHA! You must be an old and empty shell and I know without ever meeting you there is more depth, beauty and intelligence in her pierced nostril than you have in your entire body. Fool.
@@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u Huh? You mean the fact that she's drop dead gorgeous?
I am so sorry Jessi. Your aunt is a truly evil woman. You are so articulate and you will be helping these children in ways you cannot even imagine.
Well Said ❤️🩹
Agreed ❤
Absolutely thank you for coming out in speaking out for these children and I hope and pray you be in court to testify against her 🙏🏾🙏🏾💕🔥
Isn't what Jessi said happened by her aunt a form of sexual abuse? I'm not trying to be rude or flippant with the SA claim, but forcing a child to have the bathroom open, the intense punishment for perceived sexual fixation feels very sexually inappropriate and abusive. I know there was definite physical abuse, but it definitely seems more than just that and she should be charged with the harm she caused this young woman as well.
I believe ruby was brainwashed by Jodi 😢😢
This woman is smart, strong, sober, reflective, articulate, and stunningly beautiful.
Omg! I didn’t understand Ruby’s accusations against her own child. Now this all makes sense! Absolutely sickening. Everyone needs to hear Jessi speak about this.
as someone who was abused as a child im not confused. she wanted to find one more way to control and abuse those children. by saying one (or more) were being sexual with other kids now those kids will be separated while in foster care. they will no longer have siblings around them or other kids their age to live with. after being constantly abused by adults that’s the last thing these poor babies needed. i can almost 100% promise she accusations are fake and are the moms way of still getting at the kids.
Now it’s even more clear why the poor boy said “it’s my fault”
Abusers love blaming you, my uncle did the same thing. Wasn’t shocked when she did this, it doesn’t matter if it’s your parent or family member they will lie to protect themselves
What I find interesting is this woman didn't turn to social media to bring awareness and get help for her siblings but seems to be using her social media now to suck up all the attention when she sat by and did nothing when apparently she wasn't being heard she could have made this go viral years ago and her siblings would have never had to go through it. But she sat by quiet
they did a great interview and went more in depth on the Mormon Stories Podcast (it's a podcast where they interview exmormons about their experiences)
What an intelligent, well spoken and brave young woman. I hope she will be called to testify to put those awful women behind bars. Well done Jessi for speaking out.
yes, she is so so clever and mindful
This young woman is extremely well spoken, intelligent, and educated. She will be instrumental in getting justice for the children and herself. God bless you. 🙏💪
Jessi, the world is listening, you are heard, you are seen. Your voice is critical to this investigation. I am so sorry for what terrible adults put you in harm's way. Thank you to this reporter for asking clear, concise questions and for being so respectful in his listening. Not once did he interrupt.
It’s your time Jessi. You dealt with this albatross around your neck for over a decade. And now you get to tell the truth and expose the monsters. Thank you for your bravery.
well said!
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It’s a miracle this beautiful woman has healed from this horrendous abuse!
She's a tattoo artist in Seattle. So happy she seems to be living her best life. 😊
They/them she’s non binary. :)
@@brett8460She’s obviously not living her ‘best’ life. She’s still extremely shattered and dealing with this trauma in some way on a daily basis. And it’s truly saddening that she’ll be broken in every aspect of her life, for the rest of her life because of these atrocities. You should watch the 3 hour podcast that she just did. She goes into so much more depth than this.
@@tanithschneider3051 yes, they/them. I’m too lazy to edit. I apologize for the incorrect pronouns.
She has Athena power and she mentioned she took critical reasoning sometimes after she got her GED. Respect, inspiration and light 🙏🏻🌸🌈💜👍🏻
The accusations of her son didn't make sense to me but now they do. They want to punish the poor baby for protecting himself and his family out of a jail cell. Thank you Jessi for speaking up! And I'm so so so so sorry for what this evil woman has done to you! You are such a brave and kind person! You stood up for these children. You're amazing!! I hope they get their punishment and you and other victims can get some closure
I know, I saw Jessie's full interview and Jodie said she knew Jessie was guilty of these things because 'it came to her in a dream; or 'she had a vision from god' so in other words from her own sick mind. The minute I heard the accusations against RF i knew immediately it was the same BS . So grateful for Jessie coming forward.
The frustration and sickening feeling when dealing with a manipulative person is horrible and so hard to explain to someone. You did a great job Jesse!
Jessi, I hope you testify at the trial. Jessi, the abuse will be proven. You can validate the children's experience. You are a survivor. The world is full of nice people. There are very few evil people.
I was thinking that too. And it may help those children deprogram to understand it wasn't their fault. Because they've been brainwashed and will take a lifetime of work to undo.
@mrrossi01. I agree with much of what you say. However, our world today is overrun with evil people. From the corridors of power, to the holiest of folk, people from all walks of life are sick, twisted and just plain bad.
Same here
If they do choose to do that, I hope someone could accompany them so they don't have to feel alone with their abuser
LE re-opened Jessi's criminal compliant
You can just see how Jessi is telling the truth. You can tell she’s able to feel those experiences viscerally as she recounts it. Classic PTSD. I’m so sorry, Jessi! Thank you for standing up for those kids!
Jessi is such a brave and amazing young woman. She is finally able to speak up for herself and for the children. 💔❤️🩹
Agreed, it has to be really difficult- I hope she feels a bit of weight lifted off of her shoulders now that we can all hear her story. What a horrid woman Jodi is.
Yea, I have a hard time believing any 304 tatted up. Strong and empowered woman.
@@brucesmith8285stfu incel. You don’t know what her body count is. Stop being creepy.
@@brucesmith8285that is why the abuse continued as long as it has, your response right there. We can't know someone's story. Stop judging on appearance and hear their message.
I hope this young woman becomes a therapist to help others.
She is so intelligent, well-spoken, and with the experiences she has had, she could help so many others.
If you read this, you are such an impressive young woman! I’m sorry for what you have been through, it has made you who you are and you have such a presence and affect that you could help so many other survivors of abuse.
If that happened we would miss her art, she is a professional tattoo artist. 🎉
- I used to watch 8 passengers before and now I quit watching them because of ruby’s Lack of parenting advice.
- I now watch oh shiitake mushrooms and Lee and Carole would never do something like that to their three kids Leland, Leanna and London, Their videos are skits and in real life their parents Feed them food, Take them out to McDonald’s, Give
Their kids gifts on Christmas eve, Help them do the dishes, let them play in the Xbox, and watch the Super Bowl, and send Christmas cards to fans. Something that a family RUclips Vlogger would have done in the first place instead of making your kids Wipe dirty floors and making your kid run to the neighbors house for food and water. Carole knows how to take care of her own kids than Ruby, in the bright side Lee always makes sure that their kids are always attending school and not skipping classes, as a mother it is your responsibility to discipline your kids the right way and not trying to abuse them, especially teenagers. the best way to do it is by teaching your kids by being taught the right way. by the way Oh shiitake mushrooms RUclips channel has way more subs because of their amazing content that would attract their fans and live in Utah far away from these two idiots Ruby and Jodi who would try to abuse their kids and nieces like Jessi, Russell and Evie who doesn’t know how to be a mother.
I hope this sweet young lady is doing WHAT SHE WANT and not what some other Rubi's and Jody's think she should do! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bullshit! Why should she do this? To fulfill your dreams? The rest of her life in the shade of this evil monster? 🤮🤮🤮
Yeah, my husband and I went to her for two years for therapy and that is exactly what she says about shame. That basically shame is the foundation to all our problems. I knew Jodi was extreme, I just didn’t realize how extreme. I’m so sorry for all you’ve been through.😭
I've heard people referencing "shame" a lot over the past year or so. Is this where people are getting that talking point? It normally goes along the lines that "shame is not of God and you shouldn't feel it, etc." Then they tend to bring up the concept of "guilt".
What makes you go to seek help for ppl like her!??
Bullshit
2 years of therapy!!!!! That is crazy. Was there any benefit? I’m sure you got something out of it for staying that long.
@@ArkanSuboticthese are mind warped cultists. There’s no benefit to any of this horseshit.
Guaranteed, 1000%: her aunt is all the things she accused the niece of - and/or she was sexually abused and traumatized herself and this is Jodi's sick, misguided attempt to exert control over her own overwhelming shame. Also - what a fantastically articulate and brave young woman Jesse is. Thank you for speaking truth to power. You are a hero!
Was thinking the same things
Her account clarified so many of the “accusations” that ruby made in court. Shoutout to Jessi for speaking out so eloquently
These women are sadistic monsters. They should be locked up forever. Thank you, Jessi. I'm sure it is traumatizing the recounting of your experiences. You are very brave.
With how emotional this conversation this is for her, she is extremely well spoken and great at expressing herself. She's clearly put in a lot of work on herself after what she's been through.
Shows just how much she traumatized her I hope she got life in prison
You have provided the most relevant interview on this case. Thank you for your courage to speak up and share your horrific experiences. Your willingness to share will likely ensure this case gets resolved in the right direction and these and other children will be rescued from a horrific situation. Thank you for your courage to speak up. ♥️
Thank you for speaking about the horrible abuse you endured. You’re giving this young boy a voice that no one else has
So true
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This is so heartbreaking
So glad to hear they spoke to a detective a few days ago. Thank you for standing up for Jodi's victims, Jessie. You're a beautiful person and should be so proud ❤
💯💯 I was wondering if she was talking to them before or after Ruby made the claims against her son. If it was before the hearing her testimony would stand out even more.
@@ElaEllx3 they/them.
@@ElaEllx3 correct me if I'm wrong but they did the Mormon Stories podcast just before the news of the court hearing. I any case it seems there will be plenty of reason to find Jessie credible, including the situations that they mentioned in emails between them and the podcast host prior to the interview.
I am impressed with how articulate this young lady is. My best wishes go out to her. Such a brave soul.
Wow! There are some truly evil people in the world. I'm so glad Jessi was able to escape years ago and that the 12-year old child was also able to do the same, as well as, get help for his younger siblings. They are all so brave, especially for having to talk about the abuse they had endured. I hope those kids are able to get through this difficult period and they and Jessi have lives filled with love and happiness.
Thank-you Jessi for protecting a young boy when no one protected you. When I heard Ruby's horrific claims I instantly thought of what your aunt did to you and knew this was further abuse following Jodi's teachings. Even in jail they've managed to separate him from his siblings, Your strength is seen and felt by us all.
Absolutely. I can't imagine the trauma after living with her for only a year.
I think no one can protect and defend that boy better than her, who went through the abuse personally and got out of it. She is such a strong woman now. Love that
Agree I’m super glad she’s spoken. She’s very articulate and good advocate for the boy.
It shows you how incredibly brave Russell was in escaping. The courage it must have taken to crawl out that window. Bless him 😥
Yep, the physical part of the escape was the easiest part. After enough abuse, the kids become like the elephant held in place by a flimsy rope. Poor kid was still blaming himself when talking to the neighbour, because he was in that abuse cycle.
@@lizddpyoga7476that's normal and to be expected. Give him some time. I suspect he was possibly trying to "protect" his siblings by emphasizing "it was just me doing bad things". For all he knows, the cops or Jodi are coming to take his siblings away for any "sins" he tells adults about. The kid is being careful. He knows he can't trust any adults to not hurt him or his siblings
@@keke8880soooo sad, but true. No adults are safe. And even if they are, they're incapable of protecting him (his own father, adult sibling).
@@lizddpyoga7476My heart has been aching for Russell. I watched their vlogs a lot. He’s a sweet, caring, gentle child. What a brave thing he did. The fact that he tried to minimize what happened to him is not surprising given the way he is. I pray that these kids can get the help they need.
You brave girl. I’m so sorry. Thank you for defending these other children.
You should NEVER use withholding food as a punishment.
Thanks for speaking up Jessi! Your aunt is a sadist, plain and simple, and I’m so glad you see that millions of people around the world now see your aunt for what she is. You are helping the Franke children tremendously by telling us what happened to you.
And ruby is just as bad
Ruby too smirks and laughs with glee as she’s punishing her children. She relishes the power, control and superiority she has over her children. That is one sick mother. That is why Ruby gave someone like Jodi access and free rein with her(!) children. Two partners in crime.
@@eileenmcdonald1599Amen! Evil incarnate. Both of them.
Why are you thanking g her she's just as bad as her mom. Thirsty for internet attention. She didn't try to go viral to help her siblings she didn't use her platforms that way but now that things have been uncovered now she's all over social media talking now she's accepting paid interviews to talk about it when she didn't do any of that stuff to help her brothers and sisters before
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Who are you talking about? This is not a child of Ruby! This is a niece of Jodi Hildebrandt!
Jessi’s interviews have been by far the most enlightening for those of us who are trying to piece this whole thing together. She’s 💯
agreeded
That and Ruby's cousin who explained that those abuse tactics have been used in their family for years.
See also Adam Steed’s two-part series on Hidden True Crime (outstanding channel with forensic psychologist/husband first analysis of Jodi’s methods). Adam’s marriage, career and bank account were destroyed by Jodi. Very, very moving.
@@janetshemaryahu5529 I forgot about Steed, but yeah, I saw that interview. Yet another prosecution witness.
Wow. I love how articulate, courageous, and vulnerable this woman is. What a badass. It's clear she's done a LOT of work to unwind the damage that was done to her. I hope she's found peace and growth through her experience... and is able to help others in the future.
Thank you for explaining their bizarre treatment of these children! I’m sorry to hear that you went through this yourself, I pray many more victims will step up and speak out because of your bravery!❤
Wow, such an eloquent, clear, real, honest and brutal description of what abuse is and does to kids, to people who experience it. Beyond inspiring. I’m in awe of Jessi, of her strength and honesty.
Well said ❤
I actually thought when I read the title that it was just going to be someone with a vague link after their 15 minutes. How wrong I was. What an amazing strong and clearly intelligent woman, and so humane despite everything she's been through.
I see inner strength and beauty. Go Jessi!
As a parent I would have to be dead to let anyone harm my children the way these two women have done!
Yes!!
Same here!!
Me too 🙏🏾🙏🏾💕 God please Hill those children in Jesus name
Gos please HEAL theses children In Jesus name amen 🙏🏾 ❤
Crimes against children in all forms should carry the most severe punishment. No exceptions
This woman is going to be a major witness if this goes to trial
Such an important interview, thank you Jessi for speaking out. Never want to take away Ruby's accountability in this and what she's saying about her son, but we gotta talk about Jodi some more. From what I understand, Ruby and her family were formerly clients of Jodi's...and then suddenly Ruby's her business partner?! In what world is that not considered a major red flag and breach in professionalism? Can you imagine your therapist deciding you just were so great and had learned their "teachings" so well that they invited you to be a part of their business and counsel patients? Absolutely insane.
If ANY child courageously tells you of any such horrific acts, NO MATTER WHAT, BELIEVE THEM. Protect them. I was not believed, but shamed into silence. Please, believe them.
Thank you, Jessie for being such an absolute warrior!
I’m sorry you had to live through that - Sending best wishes
I hear what your saying and under normal circumstances I agree. That being said, my youngest, who has very recently turned 18 has very significant mental health issues. She has had cps called on me more times than I can count, usually to divert attention when she's done something to get in trouble. She has accused me of throwing her down a flight of stairs, doing drugs, drugging her, sending her older sisters in to beat her and so many other things. She accused her father of sexual abuse as well as many other men. To the point where we had to make sure she was never alone with men for any length of time in order to protect them from being accused. Cousins, uncles, teachers, bus drivers, etc. Sometimes she didn't even need a reason. She would happily hug and kiss me in the morning before school with an "I love you". At the end of the school day I would get a phone call from the school telling me she was refusing to come home because she was afraid. Often she would come home and tell me some outrageous tale about the principal/staff responding very inappropriately to her by hitting or something of the like. Even though the school knew what she was saying was most likely not true, they're still mandated and would have to call cps.
I love her with my entire being, but it's been a very long and difficult road. Lucky for me, and her now one year old daughter that I have custody of, she was not always believed.
@@kazodathree2520tragic...
@@kazodathree2520if you have no background information, always believe the child. even if there's a short history, believe the child.
@@chlyriyou’re a teenager. Wait til you’re grown up to speak matter a fact
Her 3 hour interview on Mormon stories was the best podcast I’ve ever heard. Much respect.
Adam (Paul) Steed gives similar tragic testimony in two parts on Hidden True Crime. Jodi decimated his life: his marriage, career, his money. Important for all those interested.
That was such a powerful podcast the 3 hour one. Such a strong resilient young woman. Wishing you the best Jessi ❤️🙏🤗
Ok, I know it’s way too early to even give this a mention but!! Money talks and it looks like (barf) she (Jodi) made a great life by ruining people’s lives..so if her ill gotten gains don’t all go to attorneys fees…please pay these people the money she loved so much😢
@@janetshemaryahu5529 thank you for this information about another of Jodi's victims, hopefully it and Jessi will inspire other survivors to come forward.
Can you put link to that interview here?
As a psychotherapist in Utah, I am often combating disturbing programing from a system that expects pure obedience. But Jodi is a perfect example of "secret combinations." The church needs to get better at vetting leaders, not hiding abuse, and stop perpetuating a "protect the image" mentality. That honestly won't solve all of the problems, but it would be a start. Sadly, I don't think the church will heed the advice. Thank you Jessi for speaking up! You're a beautiful human being!
Agreed.
A book that really helped me deal with abuse of power in church leadership is called “Redeeming Power” by Diane Langberg. Highly recommend!
As a psychotherapist, you silence people. I would never use your services. I gave you a genuine comment, and you reported it as spam or a scam immediately after. Yikes. But it's why people vet their therapists to make sure they're a good match. Have a good life :-)
This young woman is an angel and has been through so much. I’m so glad that she’s able to speak out for these children and she probably will be the one to make a difference in this case because she has lived it. Maybe this is all this boy needs is to know he’s not alone and that people will believe him. I hope her life is better now because she deserves happiness
Everybody needs to see this! The judge needs to hear this too so he has an understanding of how Jodi is and why Ruby accused her child of such awful things. NO ONE should believe what Ruby has said about her son, the sweet little boy doesn’t deserve all this 😞
He may well believe it all himself and will need some proper therapy.
I am disgusted what this woman went through. However, the fact she can now be an advocate for this child and from the sounds of it many more, is admirable. Thankful she is using her voice to advocate for the innocent. 💚
Please hear her she is speaking for not only her self but the millions by now of children , gods children who are continually hurt by people who appear good on the outside but are literally possessed by these oppressive entities. Please see the big picture that the mormon church facilitates and provides so many people like Jodi and ruby the vindication that their abuse is justified and all of this shunning and shaming is done to torment us as only the great tormentors would. The devil preys on us daily. But you can always pray to your father and I truly believe jessie like myself are what the mormons often called the army of helamen . We will fight the battles our brothers and sisters are not able to fight on this earth. I know I today no longer feel oppressed by 40 years of shaming but this cult any longer.
They’re non-binary.
Jessi uses they them pronouns
@@RoxieLoxie nice nasa I see you
thx!@@asabovesobelow7361
This women's soul is calm she is beautiful! ❤
What a brave woman! The trauma she endured but still told her story to help those innocent children is beyond words. This is healing and I hope she knows her value!
We need to take psychological and emotional abuse way more seriously than we do. The damage is life long and soul destroying. Jessi speaking out is going to help so many people. Im so glad she's sharing her story
Yep I have an Aunt with similar mentality. Has destroyed my life.
Just difficult to regulate. Different cultures have different parental and religious styles.
@@angelawatson1594"just" is the problem. Humanity needs to do away with religion as a public and acceptable system to live by. Believe whatever you want but any countries that allow religious systems to overtake humanism need to be dismantled
@@Juststudiothings sadly have you seen the abuse dealt out to females by radical extremists who they believe fall foul of their male dominated society? So-called "honour" killings? Some even perpetuated in western countries. Try changing that- good luck
We do
It’s clear to me that Jessi’s mental and emotional intelligence and strength have allowed them to get through the vile abuse they endured.
I can see that they’ve put heaps of work into breaking free and now they’re helping others do the same.
Well done Jessi 💖
They go by they/them pronouns.
@@d.h.4778 Correction made. Thanks.
@@kmduarte2005 absolutely. ❤️
Well done.. you left your siblings to living hell while you went off and lived your life and when you knew that they were being abused you didn't turn to social media to get how you didn't turn to try to make this a viral story you did nothing until she got caught and then decided to go on social... And paid interviews yeah well done you're just as bad as your mom
@@d.h.4778how do you know?
Everything she said about her abuser is a perfect description of my aunt. My aunt btw is diagnosed with anti-social personality. This type of abuse doesn't stop either when the abuser is out of the picture. Friends and family of the abuser will always hold it against the abused for years. The narcissistic smear campaigns are the longest lasting though.
You are so well spoken! You need to go on TV! You would help so many people!
I’m thankful for Jessi speaking her truth.
There is only ONE truth, and that is THE truth. Having clarified that, I do believe this young woman.
There are some situations where truth is malleable, but I don't believe Jessi is speaking "her" truth. I believe they are speaking THE truth. Jessi is straightforward, with a thorough, grounded understanding of what they are saying. It's obvious they've put a lot of work into recovering from their aunt's horrible abuse.
Jessi’s pronouns are they/them. It would go a long way to honor their vulnerability here if you can edit your comments to reflect that.
@@sunnya8🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙄shut up
@@sunnya8 Jessi's pronouns are she/her as she is a woman and women are referred to in english as she/her not in the plural 👍
My heart breaks for her. I can tell it's difficult for her to talk about her past trauma but the fact that she's doing so shows how brave she is.
She's putting Ruby's kids & other victims above her own pain because she cares more about these kids than their own scumbag parents.
@@southbug27then why didn't she come forward?
Sometimes speaking on our trauma and being validated in how horrific it was after it was normalized for so long is therapeutic. I'd hope it was for jessi
@@floridagirl386Did you not watch the interview? She literally says she went to the police at 16. They didn’t believe her because of how high up Jodi was in the church system and the work Jodi did to tarnish her reputation as an “angry and troubled teen”. Maybe listen with two ears before commenting such ignorance.
@@floridagirl386they didn't even know who ruby was. They got as far away from jodi as they could. Everyone SAW the abuse jessi endured and did nothing. Who would she have possibly come forward to? Jessi said they went to the police and no one believed them. Come on at least listen to the interview
You can see the pain in Jessi's eyes. It's heartbreaking the abuse and trauma she and the victims have endured. I'm so sorry.
What you went through was horrific. Bless you for stepping forward to help these children. You are such a strong young woman.
The strength of Jessi is amazing and inspiring. So well spoken.The hell she endured, she came out of it a warrior, and she’s changing lives. Strong soul. 💙
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I wanted to say the same thing. She is very articulate and has an uncommon ability too convey exactly whats on her mind. That's something people in talk radio with years of experience can't do as well as her.
I'm glad these victims have her on their side.
I don't believe that Jodi is a person that should be in prison around other people. She needs to be locked up in a mental hospital and isolated from any other people. She is DANGEROUS!!!!!
Agreed!
Criminals or not, a lot of inmates are very vulnerable. It's just going to be another playground for Jodi... As long as she chooses her victims wisely, that is.
Great the mental issues excuse again, knew someone was gonna say it...she needs nail not mental hospital she can isolated in prison just the same
No- she needs a max security prison and to be released to gen population.
Karen I thought that too, she needs to be alone in a cell for a long time. They did that to children so they can't complain. I'm sure the other inmates will teach them how it feels to go hungry & be terrified
Omg ! Horrible! That was so good of you to speak out about your own abuse to try to protect this poor boy 💙 unbelievable that any mother would allow Jody to speak about their child like she does and it’s absolutely insane any mother would allow this kind of abuse! Uhg this poor kid! God bless you girl 💕🙏 I pray for justice for you and all other children abused by that woman
Wow this woman has been able to articulate the abuse very well. I’m really proud of her it seems like she’s been able to heal somewhat from such a vicious cycle of horrible abuse from this woman who has been protected by her church. I’m so glad these women are about to face some justice.
If folks haven't heard the 911 call that was made after the 12 year old boy ran to a stranger's house for help, then please do. It's very telling. The condition of the boy was so severe that it brought the grown man to tears while explaining to the 911 operator specifics of his appearance and what must have happened to him. IT MADE A GROWN MAN CRY FOR GOODNESS SAKES!!!
Grown men cry. Calm down with the patriarchy. That's how these kids got dragged into this hell in the first place.
That call brought me to tears. You could tell that man was trying so hard to be strong but hearing him break down just broke my heart and I started crying with him. Just devastating. No child should have to endure that.
that 911 call was the very first i ever heard about this case so after hearing that i just had to find out who those women were that did such horrible things to children 😢 when the man broke down it was so obvious that this was a serious child abuse case and after looking into it i was baffled that no one rescued these children sooner because the neighbors were not surprised and had tried to get these kids help ° as recent as last night i called the child abuse hotline regarding an intoxicated mother choking her 14 year old and the cops said there was nothing they could do because she was "disciplining" her teenager, the 14 year old had marks on her face and neck but because the guardian because it's not the bio mom i found out but instead a relative that has had custody several years and that guardian recently came out of the closet as a man who was born a woman and LE where i live can't do anything to upset the transgender community so as soon as they discovered she was transgender it was immediately "the 14 year old is just a troubled teen" and they left ° this guardian comes home plastered every night and idk what sex she identifies as it's no excuse to get wasted and abuse a child ° my grandson is 10 years old and sees how fearful LE and CPS are scared of the transgender community backlash ° it's appalling that religion and trans can be justifiable excuses
I want to respect the kids privacy but after hearing that 911 call I broke down imagining the kid's condition.
I don’t doubt that it was terrible but why are u perpetuating the idea that it’s odd for men to cry. A man crying should not be the determining factor of how serious something is. It’s serious because what happened not because of the reactions of others
I’m happy that this young person came out to the media. These poor children need an advocate, and I’m glad that Jessi came out with her story.
*their
@@RoxieLoxieTheir.*
@@RoxieLoxie
that is a female...not a "their". Her history of childhood trauma is likely at the root of her gender confusion. Most LGBTQ people have experienced trauma.
*With their story. They them pronounce
Of course she did she wanted to be on tv
You are incredibly strong for telling your story. Very proud of you and your progress in healing. I am so sorry these sick women abused you so terribly.
This is so sickening and heartbreaking, I have no words. I just hope that Jessi is in a good place in life now and that Ruby's children will get the chance to one day be happy, they deserve it❤
Jessi is so poised and articulate. They are an incredible person. The amount of bravery it took to open up old wounds and come forward with their story is unbelievable. If Ruby's children are ever able to overcome their abuse I truly believe a large part of that will be due to Jessi telling the world about Jodi's patterns and lies.
*she is
She's not multiple people and is clearly a woman.
Yes, thank goodness for Jessi. The kids will be able to watch these interviews years from now, when they’re older and can better understand what happened to them. They will have many questions and things to figure out later on.
Fully Agreed, and as horrifying as this story is, lets at the same time not forget the countless minors mutilated and manipulated by monsters just like these disgusting people..@@Fred-wb5nz
@@Fred-wb5nzNot the time, nor the place. Take your bigotry elsewhere.
Does Jessi have a podcast? If so, what's it called?
This makes SO MUCH SENSE now in regards to Jodi saying that the kids shouldn’t be around other children. It also makes sense why Ruby said her kids were viewing inappropriate material. It’s all lies and obfuscation to hide the abuse and make the children look like they’re evil. It’s so sick and twisted to say about your own children. And, I’m sorry, but even if Jodi is the mastermind, Ruby is 10000% responsible for her own sick and disgusting behavior and I do not have any sympathy for her. Even now, as she sits in jail, she is STILL trying to paint her OWN CHILDREN as evil and less than. It’s heinous.
I feel bad for the little boy:(
Jessie said (in another podcast) Jodie isolated them, so she can controls the narrative. They couldn’t talk to anyone so and they don’t now what others know or believe about them.
And Jessie said Jodie and ruby wanted to isolate the child (I’m assuming as a punishment for escaping) by saying he’s a sex-ual pre-dator and shouldn’t be around chil-dren.
@@eypu999why the frick are they listening to a crock of crap de licensed counselor in jail anyway regarding those children!? Makes no sense! Of course they are going to put all the blame on the children? Ruby and Jodi are messed up adults who need prison time. 😡
Thank goodness Jessi has spoken out about these experiences and shedding light on this extremely complex form of abuse. It is so insidious and hard to even articulate sometimes because so many psychological factors are at play. I will say that some people develop throughout their life this indescribable ability to manipulate people and situations and get away with it. Jodi absolutely used the information she learned from getting her masters degree in counselling psychology to turn around and cause harm to other people. Most people with nefarious intentions and patience like Jodi has will not be out there immediately revealing all their cards to the world... they play the long game and practice this pattern of abuse on anyone close enough to them and extremely vulnerable (such as Jessi's situation being Jodi's niece and being very vulnerable as a teenager). Jodi clearly understands the intricacies of this kind of power imbalance and used it to her full advantage. Ruby on the other hand really appeared to be a somewhat Jekyll and Hyde character... seemed quite lost, but also hiding an incredibly malicious side... she has some extremely deep self loathing going on that has likely never been brought to light in an introspective sense. Ruby saw what Jodi had and it was like a moth to a flame. She became consumed by it... the match already existed in Ruby way before Jodi ever came around, but Jodi provided the flame.
It makes me sad to see how this still hurts Jessi, thank you for your bravery and speaking up ❤
Thank you for having Jessi on your RUclips page. She endured unspeakable abuse by her aunt Jodi Hildebrandt. It is my hope that others that have suffered by Jodi's therapy come forward with their stories. She also needs to be investigated for money received by the LDS church by way of fraudulent mental health billing.
Women like her n Kassandra dislike Evie not hers biological. Psycho women s.......
Jessi’s pronouns are they/them. It would go a long way to honor their vulnerability here if you can edit your comments to reflect that.
@sunnya8 Blame that confusion on the news channel for not making it clear though right
LDS Church is a shame based fraud.
@@sunnya8On mormon stories she already gave her stance on that.
So glad she was courageous enough to come out. For all kids' sakes. It is so hard to speak up. Hoping she testifies at the trial though it will trigger her own abuse. Very courageous woman.
Jessi’s pronouns are they/them. It would go a long way to honor their vulnerability here if you can edit your comments to reflect that.
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Jessi is describing themself to us. Jessi says 'call me they or them.' Seems like a pretty easy show of respect for us to honor a torture survivor's dignity by expanding our rigid, archaic grammar rules to make room for Jessi's self-determined appellations
May Jessi be healed and blessed. She is so strong, intelligent and well spoken. Her speaking ability is incredible.
Sensitive yet thorough interviewer also. Thank you to both of you.
Man. I hope these women spend the rest of their lives in prison. And I hope this woman has a happy and fulfilling life that she deserves. Hopefully justice is served
It is so important that people hear Jessi's story.
First hand experience living with real life Miss Trunchbull. Horrible.
Yeah so we can learn what being internet attention Thirsty looks like she is just as thirsty as her mom. She wouldn't use our platforms to bring awareness about her siblings. She wasn't running to the news stations to get help for her siblings. Only now after everything already happened. She's just as sick
I am SO glad Jessi went public with all this! To be able to put her own trauma on the back burner and to speak so openly about what she went through had to be super triggering, and still she came forward. Like, I knew this crap was gonna be pretty damn bad, I had NO idea just how far this rabbit hole actually went. Jessi, if you happen to ever see this, YOU ARE A ROCK STAR!
Well done jessi, wishing you well on you're future and healing, speaking out is part of that journey, thank you for speaking out for her son,he needs that ,much love sis xx
You are an amazing woman and an astounding advocate! Wow! Stay strong sweetie. This interview seemed so difficult emotionally and yet everything you said, your cadence, your observations, your recollections and descriptions were so eloquently stated. You express yourself in a way most of us yearn at the very least to write in - w lots of editing and rewriting. Yet you spoke everything fluidly, with ease of expression and sharpness of intellect , the way a PhD is written and a thesis defended. You are a stellar advocate for these kiddos and especially a loving and smart advocate for yourself and for your little teen self from back then! And what is additionally brilliant is that you’re aren’t spewing venom or darkness AT ALL! You speak from a compassionate, human, and solid space. You let the story inform the horror, not your private feelings or struggles. That is truly heroic. I’m a 56 yr old mom of 3 young adult children and a former high school principal. I would invite you to speak to our students every year to help them find their voice without the crutch of despair and anger. You are a star! Good luck on your life journey! Lucky are those throughout your life you have or will encounter and support. So humbled and touched and optimistic-ified by your testimony! Stay strong! You are LOVED! ❤
Russell is a hero. He escaped and went to get help for his sisters as well as himself. He cares about his sisters well-being. His mother on the other hand allowed him to be malnourished, tied, duck taped, etc…it’s clear to see who to believe. I feel so sorry for Russell and his siblings, and I’ll keep them in my prayers. Jessi is a hero as well for speaking out for Russell!
Prayers? To whom? Surely not the god of the cult that got them in this danger in the first place!
@@lyndaanneshopThere are millions of people in this world with all kinds of faith, and the vast majority are not horrendous child abusers. Most people of faith live simple lives of love. There are child abusers who come from all faiths, and none…..let’s not start pointing fingers at people who sincerely pray, and cast them in the same light as evil / mentally disturbed / however you wish to describe it criminal individuals, who are merely using the closest thing they have to faith in order to justify what they’re doing. Those two things are not the same. It’s the same kind of thinking as when people label all Muslims terrorists - let’s not stereotype or tarnish all people of one faith on the heinous actions of a few 💔🙏🏼
@@lyndaanneshopThank you!!! Perfectly put.
Your god is abusive!! He is the reason Maynard’s mom ( vocalist of tool and a perfect circle) had seizures and was in a wheel chair.
Millions of religions, and you think yours is right and gentle? How foolish of you.
Grow up!! Your god is used to abuse, swindle, scam, and steal from people.
russel has now been accused of assaulting multiple
I am in awe of this young woman. So thoughtful, well-spoken, honest, and brave. Very brave!
I wish her all the very best.💗
Same here..thank god she is talking it should be very relevant to the case…
Jessi uses they/them pronouns
In fact, she is 💓
@@RocioNicte jessi uses they/them pronouns
@Brea95 Jessi can use those pronouns , nd I can use other according to her biological sex. That's doesn't diminish any part of my message and admiration for her courage and intelligence.
Go Jessi! You are powerful and your spirit pure and strong. Thank you for being a fierce and intelligent warrior for these children. Your voice is is so needed. ❤
Jessie, I'm so desperately sorry for the experiences you have suffered at the hands of that cruel, evil, pathetic excuse of a human. You are so strong, so intelligent and so generous to speak out and hopefully help others. ❤
I am absolutely blown away by Jessi, she articulated everything beautifully. If I ever try and explain my experiences I burn myself out thinking I sound stupid and then just talk nonsense.
What an inspiration Jessi is to survivors of all types of abuse, and what an educator for others!
Thank you ❤
Jessi says that she hopes they don't believe Ruby about the porn, etc. My question is: *How would a 3 year old know how to look up porn...what interest would a 3 yr old even have?* Complete and utter BS! She's reaching out from behind bars to punish this child even further and what's completely outrageous *and unforgivable* is the judge allowing this kid to be persecuted further. God help us!
Jessi uses they/them pronouns
This lady is the epitome of brave, to face PTSD head on to save others from the same fire that left her scared, is nothing short of heroic. All you experienced was not in vain, you were sent to stop this cycle….your strength with save generations 💛
Such a well done interview👏🏼 The questions were well thought out and kept me on the edge of my seat.
Could not have worded it better. ❤
She is in fact brave but she still doesn’t bring herself to say the word WOMAN and refers to herself in plural.
But why was she silent all these years?
@@BubbyBrewShe filed a police report years ago but it wasn’t taken seriously
@@mightytaiger3000 It's because they go by they/them pronouns.
Oh sweet lady I'm so sorry you've gone through this I'm praying for you and those kids justice is finally playing out.
Thank you for sharing your story Jessi. You were so courageous in coming forward and so articulate in talking about the horrific suffering you wen thru with Jodi. You are an amazing young woman. I hope that Jodi and Ruby will face justice for their actions and the children can heal from their abuse. It’s a long road ahead for them 😢
Jessi’s story is critical. Thank them for speaking up and out, and thanks for giving them a platform.
Jessi is a powerful voice for the vulnerable.
Seriously!
What a principled, courageous young woman. She has clearly been through a lot, yet she's willing to come forward for the boy's reputation and wellbeing. I wish her all the support and care she needs on her continued healing journey.
I am so sorry you had to go through all this horror!! But I am glad it made you this amazing person not afraid to speak up and stand tall!!! I wish you all the happiness and peace that y deserve 🙏🏼😊
Systematically terrorizing people is a crime. Thank God that Jodi has been exposed for the type of person she truly is. I hope that the Justice System finds her guilty.
Systematically terrorizing people is what the Yahweh cult does. If he were any kind of a god his cult members would not be infamous for raping kids and covering for each other. If there were a god in her cult she would never have been able to do this to kids for so long. Let's not rewrite history here. There is truly nothing new under the sun. Abuse and the Church go hand and hand. Always have, always will.
I hope you are found guilty of your crimes - and I will be the judge and jury of you
@@ezrc9294 Where's your degree weirdo 😂
I went to the school of - not brainwashed by the media - you?@@KateCat420
@@ezrc9294Jodi gets off in dominating and turning out straight women, destroying families, and sexually preying on children. Interesting that you see that and your impulse is, to defend it 🤔
My mom did some of this to me. I'm so sorry Jessi went threw this.
My mom was not religious, just brutal. But my mom painted a photo of me for others as being dangerous and out of control.
Her stories snowballed so much that, by the time i was 18, people finally realized that it wasn't me that was the issue. I'm 45 and still recovering.
I pray that you find peace and comfort, God bless ❤
💕💕🫶🏼 much love to you Ayalnspire
It almost sounds like Munchausens by Proxy. My love and sympathy go out to you, for whatever that counts for.
Jessi, your internal brightness and intelligence are by far the most fascinating aspect of this story. In the end abusers are very boring, self centered, dysfunctional people who cause untold pain on innocent people. But you - wow - I really hope you know how amazing you are and go on to do good work and have a wonderful life - you have an amazing gift, and at such a young age - it takes many people decades upon decades to arrive at the insight you've extracted from your experience. And you're so well spoken - you're regulated, level, calm, insightful, clear eyed, smart - you GO GIRL! You've got this.
The ONE relief in this is how her niece is personally ending generational abuse. I hold faith other's come forward (ruby's kids) and have similar recovery & awareness
Jessi... just please write a letter to the judge involved in the future placement of these children. Your insights into what has happened is possibly going to save the youngest ones from a torturous teenaged life! I have great hope that these kids will be okay, and ultimately thrive - free from such unthinkable abuse... because YOU DID. Please, stay involved in the legal process. You may be these kids ONLY HOPE of being listened to. Best of luck and a lifetime of happiness and healing to you, dear lady. You are tough, far stronger than you know. 💖
It sounds like Jodie is 1000% behind all of this. Even rubi husband is saying that after jobie ,rubi start there friendship that rubi started acting different, make him leave the house. Jodie most of told Ruby that the only way she could do this horrible treatment ,therapy as she calls it. Is that rubi husband most leave the house and have no contact with the children. sounds like Jodie brainwashed Ruby and unfortunately Ruby is not the only one there's many other parents out there that aren't going to come forward because they know the consequences. I just hope whoever elses Jodie brainwashed that this was their wake-up call and that therapy has Jodie calls it will lead to consequences and are not right. Like don't get me wrong Rubi need just as much of a punishment as Jodie but like her nice is saying that Ruby is getting all the highlight when Jody should be getting all the highlight just as much
Jessi, your bravery is astounding. Thank you for being the singular adult "in the room" amidst this situation. I don't think people quite realize how hard this is to do for a person. I'm so sorry you have had to be brave at all.
Amen to everything you just said.
im so sorry you suffered, you can see and hear the trauma in her voice. You are such a strong person and I wish you luck as you continue to overcome your trauma.
As a parent, as a human being, I am so sorry that this happened to you. Thank you for speaking up for those other children. Horrifying.