He is underestimated. He won two majors and had an incredible touch around the greens. We can always think of what might have been but the fact remains that he is a hall of gamer!!
Daly is truly one of golf's all time most naturally talented players to ever pick up the sticks. Tiger is also one of the all time most naturally talented players but in addition to that, like Michael Jordan and Jerry Rice, he has an competitive nature that is basically borderline obessive. It is what has driven him to be what many consider to be the GOAT, like Mike and Jerry in their respective sports.
Bud, no need to be a dick. Of course all that practice got Tiger to where he is however it wasn't just the practice nor was it just his talent. It was the combination of both plus his competitive drive (which is what gave him the mental fortitude to do all that practice). Plenty of people could go through all the training and practice Tiger did but that but that's not going to make them competitive pro golfers let alone one of the greatest to ever play the game. Look at Vijay Singh, he work ethic was also crazy and he was also successful but he's no Tiger or Jack or Phil. What separates Vijay from those better than him is natural ability.
Daniel, he's won 5 times on the PGA tour: PGA TOUR VICTORIES (5) 1991 PGA Championship 1992 B.C. Open 1994 BellSouth Classic 1995 The Open Championship 2004 Buick Invitational He's got 4 international wins. As far as being in the Hall of Fame...c'mon Daniel no one believes he deserves it.
Exactly. If Tiger had John’s talent he could afford to waste time drinking beer instead of taking a whole bottle of Ambien, banging five hookers and crashing his car into a tree.
If you look at all the greats in their respective sports- Jordan, Woods, Federer, Hulk Hogan, Ronaldo. They all have great natural talent but what separated them from the rest was their work ethic.
Keith Spencer That's your take on it, which you're entitled to. I beg to differ. Anyway you look at it, Hogan was a super athlete, a real American and must go down as one of the all time greats.
Millions of people have natural talent. Some have the opportunity to put it into practice. Some of those are willing to dedicate their lives to extract the extra 1% needed to become a great. It's like the old adage, "The more I practice, the luckier I get".
I dont think people understand how talented john was...he did nothing but drink, smoke cigarettes, eat garbage fast food, bang chicks, and occasionally play golf...he didnt do shit to work on his swing, his green reading, nothing...it was all from god given talent and playing a lot of rounds of golf becuase he LOVED golf...his talent was incredible...his work ethic kept him from winning multiple majors and he seems fine with that, 2 majors is better than I'll ever get
John Daly is unique he had incredible talent and was always himself no bs , he didn’t care what anyone else was doing he just did his thing , very nice fella , his son has also got his talent and will be a great golfer
As a life long golfer, scratch player and historian of the sport, I would advise those who don't fully understand the game to be careful before they diss John Daly. When he says "natural talent" that is in no way insinuating that he is a comparable player. In fact, he is dissing himself bc he didn't work to develop that talent, Tiger did. Tiger, I believe, reached the highest peak the game of golf has ever know between the years 2000-2008. Jack, however, had the greatest career.
Nephi Kendra Anderson-taueki-tane a lot of disregard on this thread for Hogan, Sneed, Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Seve etc Tiger is great but don't be forgetting the history of the game.
I think everyone knows Daly's success didn't measure up to his potential had he taken a different approach to the game. But that's a selfish observation as Daly seems perfectly happy with who he is and what he's accomplished.
I don't know. Like most people, Daly has internal demons. When he lost in a playoff to Woods, he drove to Vegas and lost 1.5 million gambling that night.
I like Tiger woods and he was an incredible golfer. Tiger had natural talent however his talent was developed through a steadfast and determined approach to the game. He was mentally very strong and practiced a lot.. He needed that determination to be the best. John Daly was often hung over, tired, or drunk while playing golf. His natural talent afforded him to be so good despite not practicing much, and not being especially determined and focused. He had a lot of natural talent that was never fully realized due to his lifestyle. This is my opinion- Tiger was an all around better golfer but John had more natural talent for the game. Could he have played as well as Tiger if he wasn't such a slush ? I tend to think he could have..
MORE natural talent than Tiger!? No. John Daly was very physically talented but not to that extent. His talent would be more on the level of a Lawson Little, a Tommy Bolt, a Fuzzy Zoeller, a Ray Floyd (who developed a strong work ethic after he got married), or an Ernie Els. Players such as Tiger, Nicklaus, Snead, and Bobby Jones stand out as the most physically gifted to me, and if I had to name one more it would probably be Byron Nelson who seemed to have a great inborn gift for the game.
John was a working and golfer. He played to have fun and if he was on that was great. He he didn't that was ok. Believe me, he was still trying to win! I admired him for being so honest about his life. Ok and off the course.
Tiger and Daly had identical games. Both long off the Tee, and both with Deft Touch on and around the Green. The Difference is, in his Prime, Tiger demonstrated those skills more often when it counted. More often than everyone. Not just Daly.
We all could of... what she wrote is all she wrote. We can't dwell on what 'could've been'. Let's not to say Tiger could have been "better" too... facts are haters are haters... Tiger made Golf "fun to watch" as ratings definitely proves, Lynch mobbed by the Media like no other Sports person in history. Tiger's back & that's that.
Tiger had a way of hitting out of the rough, and hitting it close to the hole out of the rough that none have been able to master, but Tiger. He is the Tiger!
You just keep doing what you're doing, John. That Woods guy ain't never going anywhere wasting countless hours practicing. Glad you spotted that. Keep winning, and drinking!
Jordan Hazell lol, Gary Player never had 20" biceps or bench pressed 400lbs. TIGER DID. Sure there were guys who were in good shape, but tiger was the first to seriously lift weights and be in GREAT physical condition, Tiger trained with Navy Seals.
Tiger is a product of coaching , period. I can say that , because I'm a nobody , unlike Daly who would be skewered for saying the truth in his circles and the media. He does work hard but when the machine breaks down, it's hard to watch Tiger. He's just the most physically gifted and mentally focused ever when he is on and the coaching is there.
John Daly had a LOT of natural talent. Obviously so does Tiger. Daly didn't 'work' at his game,.. what you saw out of him was what he had from just playing the game.. period. So he got through Q school (not easy.. ) and won majors on the tour on basically sheer talent alone. He was known for a powerful drive and his short game and putting were on or off.. his wins came when all were 'on' of course. Tiger on the other hand had as much or more talent naturally but had the work ethic to mold that talent into what we saw in his peak. Tiger opened up the world of golf to A LOT of people.. and he still brings in the viewers and crowds despite his game being inconsistent (hopefully he can muster more wins). I still think Tiger at his peak and any other 'great' at their peak were not equal. In other words, I think Tiger is the greatest golfer to ever live.. his peak merely didn't last as long as the other greats and he fell off the map. Now Tiger has a 'chance' to get back to form but he's had a lot of hurdles to get through to get to this point and I think he's "Okay" if he never wins consistently again. Though I believe I speak for all of us when I say .. I hope he does go on another 'tear' of wins before he's out of an age to compete with the best of the best.
GuessTechSports natural talent is a phrase that people use to feel better about not achieving what they wanted. It’s an easy scapegoat to believe that people are naturally good at something vs. them working intelligently deliberately at becoming better.
The only way to really evaluate it is to ask... If John practiced and dedicated himself the way Tiger did/does, would he be as good or better? IMO, the answer is still No. On the other end, if Tiger took up John's lifestyle and didn't take great care of himself, drank a lot, didn't practice very often, and played hung over... would he be as good or better than John? IMO, the answer is No. Natural Talent is subjective to what variables are in play. Prime example, I'm willing to bet John is a better golfer than Tiger if they were to play drunk (being serious - we all know John plays/has played a lot of golf while drunk.)
It was at the 2005 WGC American Express Championship in San Francisco (Harding Park GC). I recall the playoff lasting one hole, when John three-whacked and lost. Enter in the RUclips search bar, "John Daly out drives Tiger Woods" to see the tee shots on that playoff hole.
Actually it was the 2nd hole that John 3 putted. That first hole was tough even with their 350 yd drives. And I remember it was the only time Tiger had a look on his face like he was sorry it ended that way. Normally Tiger steps on your neck until you pass out. But now I know which tourney it was, i'll look it up now every year prob
But when you look up the 2005 American Express plug in the 58:10 one. And goto 50:00 on the video. You'll get all the playoff. The best part are Tiger's and John's drives. And when John outdrives Tiger the Zinger goes 'haha John outdrove him' And Faldo says grab your popcorn
How sincere is it to tell a guy that you're routinely beating, that his talent is superior to your own? Let's turn Tiger's comment around and see if it makes more sense: 'If you had my talent (consistently winning) you'd be doing the same thing I do, (practicing all the time).' On the other hand, if Tiger actually thought Daly had more natural potential talent than his own, he'd be foolish to encourage him to work harder. I'm willing to split the difference, and figure Tiger was saying both things at the same time. The down side to always swinging a club like a monster is that it jacks up your back, and Tiger jacked his up. Finally, if I had to choose which one I'd like to play a round with, Daly, or Woods, I'd pick Daly. Daly is an approachable guy, while Tiger seems to be aloof.
I think you got it wrong. Tiger was implicitly making a distinction between natural talent and refined skill. Tiger was essentially saying Daly had a lot of natural talent while Tiger felt it necessary to hone his skill lest he be at the bottom of the pack.
Saying someone like Daly, which I love btw so I’m not bashing him has more natural talent than literally the greatest golfer that’s ever lived in my opinion, at worst #2 is absurd. Tiger was just being nice trying to decline a drink when he said that let’s be real….like I said I love him, but John coulda beat balls all day long and been in the gym 3 hours a day and it still wouldn’t come close to making up the talent gap between a 5 time PGA tour winner with a couple majors in pre-Tiger era 90’s golf lacking any big stars at the time and an 82 time PGA tour winner with 15 majors. Stats and results combined don’t lie in sports ppl.
They really are the exact opposite, Daly never practiced, was overweight and drank too much and Tiger practiced constantly and worked out and trained like Navy Seals. Daly had more natural ability, but he was lazy and dumb, tiger had a better work ethic and was unstoppable.
so if daly practiced 8 hours a day and was on the range 6 days a week and had the same results would his "Natural" talent be diminished? i don't get this argument. one guy has 79 pga tour wins with 14 being majors and the other has 5 pga tour wins with 2 being majors. even daly said himself he can't hit 300/400 balls a day on the range like these other guys do, it doesn't benefit him at all (probably because he's out of shape TBH). i think it's ridiculous to even put JD in the same breath regarding talent with tiger.
John has considerable natural talent, but he wasn't a scratch golfer in kindergarten like Tiger was. He's also 13 majors and about 75 wins behind Tiger now.
That was/is Tiger's problem....It is not really about having a "better swing", I am not even sure exactly what that means, it is about being able to consistently reproduce the swing you have. I have seen many very talented golfers get caught up in the minutiae of what other people think is the "correct" golf swing and destroy their game. Hell, Tiger did it to himself after winning the US Open by 15 strokes in 2002....He used 3 different swing coaches over a several year period to change his swing. Sure he still had a lot of success after that process but he was not the same dominant player and it started his constant struggles with his driver. He was the most dominant player in the world yet he was still searching for that elusive "perfect swing".
Joseph Gibbons, if you think Tiger is the only pro who committed adultery, you're fooling yourself. If you're a student and fan of the game, you should be able to appreciate his talent and golfing accomplishments without confusing that with the man's personal life. I would think lesser golfing stars don't receive the same scrutiny as the top talent. Good day.
John Daly's talent? What biggest drunk in the PGA's history? I did love his comparison of himself to Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer and Lee Trevino...he couldn't be more different from those three. Ok, he may be like them if you take out their success, talent, commitment, dedication, and attitude maybe then he's comparable.
He did not compare himself to Nicklaus.....Also what he was trying to reference was the approach to playing the game. The guys he compared himself to were notorious for being "fun" guys that liked to hang out and have drinks with their friends and not spend countless hours banging balls on the range. Nicklaus was not that guy at all, he was more like your Tigers, Faldos, Singhs of world who would spend countless hours practicing and really did not hang out with the other guys on Tour much.
The greatest winners in any field, be it academic, sports, finance, music, business, etc, tend to be relentlessly obsessive and meticulous at whatever their interest is. That's what makes them successful/winners. The rest tinker and hope that success happens somehow. WINNERS like TIGER believe it will happen and obessively go all the way for it. That's the difference between the 25year greatest golfing success by Tiger, winning 82 PGA tournaments, compared to John Daly's moderate success. TW and JD are very different people, very different personalities,/qualities, goals and achievement objectives. Only thing in common is golf, but even then, they are leagues apart. To compare them is unfair to both. Each to their own. Just no comparison between TW's HUGE golf success and achievements to those of JD. The JD request to share a beer was a tongue in cheek! I am sure in his heart of hearts JD wishes every day that he had TW's golf skills and success!
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The fact that the question even deserves thought shows a lot of respect for Daly, especially being compared to an all time great
John's answer was realer than real. Gotta love him.😉
He is underestimated. He won two majors and had an incredible touch around the greens.
We can always think of what might have been but the fact remains that he is a hall of gamer!!
Love Daly!! As real as it gets.
You are a great man John Daly for being so self deprecating and humble. Great.
Daly is truly one of golf's all time most naturally talented players to ever pick up the sticks. Tiger is also one of the all time most naturally talented players but in addition to that, like Michael Jordan and Jerry Rice, he has an competitive nature that is basically borderline obessive. It is what has driven him to be what many consider to be the GOAT, like Mike and Jerry in their respective sports.
Naturally talented Tiger? I guess the 2000 ball morning drill for most of his life had nothing to do with it...right genius?
Bud, no need to be a dick. Of course all that practice got Tiger to where he is however it wasn't just the practice nor was it just his talent. It was the combination of both plus his competitive drive (which is what gave him the mental fortitude to do all that practice). Plenty of people could go through all the training and practice Tiger did but that but that's not going to make them competitive pro golfers let alone one of the greatest to ever play the game. Look at Vijay Singh, he work ethic was also crazy and he was also successful but he's no Tiger or Jack or Phil. What separates Vijay from those better than him is natural ability.
Bud Simpson John Daly has 8 wins on tour and won two majors. He could be in the Hall of fame. He should he respected.
Daniel, he's won 5 times on the PGA tour:
PGA TOUR VICTORIES (5)
1991 PGA Championship
1992 B.C. Open
1994 BellSouth Classic
1995 The Open Championship
2004 Buick Invitational
He's got 4 international wins.
As far as being in the Hall of Fame...c'mon Daniel no one believes he deserves it.
Bud Simpson I too thought you sounded kinda dickish.
"If I had your talent I'd be doing the same thing." Tiger knew exactly what he was saying, the words just flew cover Daly's head.
MizunoIronMan you're right bro...
We all know it was a huge BURN!!🤣😂🤣😂🤔✌👻
JOHN DAILY WAS...
NEVERMIND
I bet Tiger was just being polite.
Johns not dumb, Tiger was most likely being polite
Exactly. If Tiger had John’s talent he could afford to waste time drinking beer instead of taking a whole bottle of Ambien, banging five hookers and crashing his car into a tree.
Dave Watkins Fuck off back under your shabby little roof , wanker .
If you look at all the greats in their respective sports- Jordan, Woods, Federer, Hulk Hogan, Ronaldo. They all have great natural talent but what separated them from the rest was their work ethic.
Interesting that you would include Hulk.
Keith Spencer What do you mean Keithy?
Keith Spencer That's your take on it, which you're entitled to. I beg to differ. Anyway you look at it, Hogan was a super athlete, a real American and must go down as one of the all time greats.
Hulk hogan 😂😂😂
Hulk Hogan is a confirmed racist which pretty much destroyed his legacy forever. He will always be considered an embarrassment by everyone. Fact.
Millions of people have natural talent. Some have the opportunity to put it into practice.
Some of those are willing to dedicate their lives to extract the extra 1% needed to become a great.
It's like the old adage, "The more I practice, the luckier I get".
Fuckin love John Daly
I dont think people understand how talented john was...he did nothing but drink, smoke cigarettes, eat garbage fast food, bang chicks, and occasionally play golf...he didnt do shit to work on his swing, his green reading, nothing...it was all from god given talent and playing a lot of rounds of golf becuase he LOVED golf...his talent was incredible...his work ethic kept him from winning multiple majors and he seems fine with that, 2 majors is better than I'll ever get
Makes it clear that hard work is what wins.
John Daly is unique he had incredible talent and was always himself no bs , he didn’t care what anyone else was doing he just did his thing , very nice fella , his son has also got his talent and will be a great golfer
As a life long golfer, scratch player and historian of the sport, I would advise those who don't fully understand the game to be careful before they diss John Daly. When he says "natural talent" that is in no way insinuating that he is a comparable player. In fact, he is dissing himself bc he didn't work to develop that talent, Tiger did. Tiger, I believe, reached the highest peak the game of golf has ever know between the years 2000-2008. Jack, however, had the greatest career.
C Medicii tiger is the 🐐 and the greatest player of all time he made golf what it is today.
Nephi Kendra Anderson-taueki-tane a lot of disregard on this thread for Hogan, Sneed, Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Seve etc Tiger is great but don't be forgetting the history of the game.
C Medicii scratch your ass is all you're scratching
Haha, that too.
Absolute respect. I think Trevino could be up there with the most naturally talented guys, as well.
Both have addictive personalities..
Dream playing group in their primes... John, Tiger, Ernie & Vijay.
I think everyone knows Daly's success didn't measure up to his potential had he taken a different approach to the game. But that's a selfish observation as Daly seems perfectly happy with who he is and what he's accomplished.
I don't know. Like most people, Daly has internal demons. When he lost in a playoff to Woods, he drove to Vegas and lost 1.5 million gambling that night.
I like Tiger woods and he was an incredible golfer. Tiger had natural talent however his talent was developed through a steadfast and determined approach to the game. He was mentally very strong and practiced a lot.. He needed that determination to be the best. John Daly was often hung over, tired, or drunk while playing golf. His natural talent afforded him to be so good despite not practicing much, and not being especially determined and focused. He had a lot of natural talent that was never fully realized due to his lifestyle. This is my opinion- Tiger was an all around better golfer but John had more natural talent for the game. Could he have played as well as Tiger if he wasn't such a slush ? I tend to think he could have..
Care to compare their wins...don't do it, it'll ruin your day.
I think you’re right and I also think John is happier in life for doing it his way...he is sort of the Ron White of golf.
MORE natural talent than Tiger!? No. John Daly was very physically talented but not to that extent. His talent would be more on the level of a Lawson Little, a Tommy Bolt, a Fuzzy Zoeller, a Ray Floyd (who developed a strong work ethic after he got married), or an Ernie Els. Players such as Tiger, Nicklaus, Snead, and Bobby Jones stand out as the most physically gifted to me, and if I had to name one more it would probably be Byron Nelson who seemed to have a great inborn gift for the game.
Here's Johnny Tater Salad...😂😂😂
had?
John was a working and golfer. He played to have fun and if he was on that was great. He he didn't that was ok. Believe me, he was still trying to win! I admired him for being so honest about his life. Ok and off the course.
Pretty accurate.
Tiger and Daly had identical games. Both long off the Tee, and both with Deft Touch on and around the Green. The Difference is, in his Prime, Tiger demonstrated those skills more often when it counted. More often than everyone. Not just Daly.
get your VCRs ready.
Speaking from my Golf experience....my putting was not consistent largely because my vision was blurred and my body dehydrated from hangovers.
Daly. Legend.
It's scary to think what Daly could've done had he been more like Tiger and dedicated his focus towards being the absolute best he could be ?
We all could of... what she wrote is all she wrote.
We can't dwell on what 'could've been'.
Let's not to say Tiger could have been "better" too... facts are haters are haters...
Tiger made Golf "fun to watch" as ratings definitely proves, Lynch mobbed by the Media like no other Sports person in history.
Tiger's back & that's that.
He might have won a few more tournaments but he wouldnt have been Daly, would he.
Tiger had a way of hitting out of the rough, and hitting it close to the hole out of the rough that none have been able to master, but Tiger. He is the Tiger!
You just keep doing what you're doing, John. That Woods guy ain't never going anywhere wasting countless hours practicing. Glad you spotted that. Keep winning, and drinking!
Winning ?... does he even play on the PGA?
Tiger was great because he worked really hard and he was the first guy 2 really focus on strength and conditioning.
Kevin Bowman no he wasn't, I dare you to say that to Gary Player.
Jordan Hazell lol, Gary Player never had 20" biceps or bench pressed 400lbs. TIGER DID. Sure there were guys who were in good shape, but tiger was the first to seriously lift weights and be in GREAT physical condition, Tiger trained with Navy Seals.
Kevin Bowman That's how Tiger fucked up his body too...just saying
Kevin Bowman how dumb are u....tiger never benched 315 let alone 400 and he never had 20 inch biceps. You must a little kid
You couldn't be more wrong.
Both their sons will be on the tour one day
Host sounds so similar to Howard Stern it’s crazy.
Not at all. Both good interviewers.
Tiger is a product of coaching , period. I can say that , because I'm a nobody , unlike Daly who would be skewered for saying the truth in his circles and the media. He does work hard but when the machine breaks down, it's hard to watch Tiger. He's just the most physically gifted and mentally focused ever when he is on and the coaching is there.
This guy sounds like Howard stern
Tiger might be the better golfer but John is the peoples guy, when John played his absolute best I think he was equal to Tiger.
John Daly had a LOT of natural talent. Obviously so does Tiger. Daly didn't 'work' at his game,.. what you saw out of him was what he had from just playing the game.. period. So he got through Q school (not easy.. ) and won majors on the tour on basically sheer talent alone. He was known for a powerful drive and his short game and putting were on or off.. his wins came when all were 'on' of course. Tiger on the other hand had as much or more talent naturally but had the work ethic to mold that talent into what we saw in his peak. Tiger opened up the world of golf to A LOT of people.. and he still brings in the viewers and crowds despite his game being inconsistent (hopefully he can muster more wins). I still think Tiger at his peak and any other 'great' at their peak were not equal. In other words, I think Tiger is the greatest golfer to ever live.. his peak merely didn't last as long as the other greats and he fell off the map. Now Tiger has a 'chance' to get back to form but he's had a lot of hurdles to get through to get to this point and I think he's "Okay" if he never wins consistently again. Though I believe I speak for all of us when I say .. I hope he does go on another 'tear' of wins before he's out of an age to compete with the best of the best.
GuessTechSports natural talent is a phrase that people use to feel better about not achieving what they wanted. It’s an easy scapegoat to believe that people are naturally good at something vs. them working intelligently deliberately at becoming better.
yah dont ask him something interesting about his game, ask him how he compares to tiger what a joke!
The only way to really evaluate it is to ask... If John practiced and dedicated himself the way Tiger did/does, would he be as good or better? IMO, the answer is still No. On the other end, if Tiger took up John's lifestyle and didn't take great care of himself, drank a lot, didn't practice very often, and played hung over... would he be as good or better than John? IMO, the answer is No. Natural Talent is subjective to what variables are in play. Prime example, I'm willing to bet John is a better golfer than Tiger if they were to play drunk (being serious - we all know John plays/has played a lot of golf while drunk.)
So to sum it up: John was like the Ric Flair of golf.....
WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!
What?...do you follow golf at all?
The best playoff ever was Tiger and John Daly, at.....I gotta look it up., I think it was the Bridgestone... let me check......
It was at the 2005 WGC American Express Championship in San Francisco (Harding Park GC). I recall the playoff lasting one hole, when John three-whacked and lost. Enter in the RUclips search bar, "John Daly out drives Tiger Woods" to see the tee shots on that playoff hole.
Actually it was the 2nd hole that John 3 putted. That first hole was tough even with their 350 yd drives.
And I remember it was the only time Tiger had a look on his face like he was sorry it ended that way. Normally Tiger steps on your neck until you pass out.
But now I know which tourney it was, i'll look it up now every year prob
But when you look up the 2005 American Express plug in the 58:10 one. And goto 50:00 on the video.
You'll get all the playoff. The best part are Tiger's and John's drives. And when John outdrives Tiger the Zinger goes 'haha John outdrove him' And Faldo says grab your popcorn
I think John Daly has more natural talent than TIger.
"If I had your talent I'd be doing the same thing." I don't think Tiger meant what Daly thought he meant.
deezynar right it was a compliment.
lol
There you go thinking again...
How sincere is it to tell a guy that you're routinely beating, that his talent is superior to your own? Let's turn Tiger's comment around and see if it makes more sense: 'If you had my talent (consistently winning) you'd be doing the same thing I do, (practicing all the time).' On the other hand, if Tiger actually thought Daly had more natural potential talent than his own, he'd be foolish to encourage him to work harder. I'm willing to split the difference, and figure Tiger was saying both things at the same time. The down side to always swinging a club like a monster is that it jacks up your back, and Tiger jacked his up. Finally, if I had to choose which one I'd like to play a round with, Daly, or Woods, I'd pick Daly. Daly is an approachable guy, while Tiger seems to be aloof.
I think you got it wrong. Tiger was implicitly making a distinction between natural talent and refined skill. Tiger was essentially saying Daly had a lot of natural talent while Tiger felt it necessary to hone his skill lest he be at the bottom of the pack.
Saying someone like Daly, which I love btw so I’m not bashing him has more natural talent than literally the greatest golfer that’s ever lived in my opinion, at worst #2 is absurd. Tiger was just being nice trying to decline a drink when he said that let’s be real….like I said I love him, but John coulda beat balls all day long and been in the gym 3 hours a day and it still wouldn’t come close to making up the talent gap between a 5 time PGA tour winner with a couple majors in pre-Tiger era 90’s golf lacking any big stars at the time and an 82 time PGA tour winner with 15 majors. Stats and results combined don’t lie in sports ppl.
come on dan, more talent than tiger? really
So a beer drinking mullet wearing chain smoking degenerate gambler who has won 2 majors is not there? Gtfo rook....
Range rat, guys hysterical
They really are the exact opposite, Daly never practiced, was overweight and drank too much and Tiger practiced constantly and worked out and trained like Navy Seals. Daly had more natural ability, but he was lazy and dumb, tiger had a better work ethic and was unstoppable.
Daly doesn’t even come close to tigers natural talent. No one ever has ever come close.
you have lack. you=lack. use lack. say yourself. you know when and say my lack go. my lACK GO=
so if daly practiced 8 hours a day and was on the range 6 days a week and had the same results would his "Natural" talent be diminished? i don't get this argument. one guy has 79 pga tour wins with 14 being majors and the other has 5 pga tour wins with 2 being majors. even daly said himself he can't hit 300/400 balls a day on the range like these other guys do, it doesn't benefit him at all (probably because he's out of shape TBH). i think it's ridiculous to even put JD in the same breath regarding talent with tiger.
JW enang bc
John has considerable natural talent, but he wasn't a scratch golfer in kindergarten like Tiger was. He's also 13 majors and about 75 wins behind Tiger now.
Daly let his personal life and lewd behavior (smoking, excessive alcohol, women) ruin his career and life!
Not even close. Tiger at 2 years old had a better swing than 80% of the golfers.
That was/is Tiger's problem....It is not really about having a "better swing", I am not even sure exactly what that means, it is about being able to consistently reproduce the swing you have. I have seen many very talented golfers get caught up in the minutiae of what other people think is the "correct" golf swing and destroy their game. Hell, Tiger did it to himself after winning the US Open by 15 strokes in 2002....He used 3 different swing coaches over a several year period to change his swing. Sure he still had a lot of success after that process but he was not the same dominant player and it started his constant struggles with his driver. He was the most dominant player in the world yet he was still searching for that elusive "perfect swing".
John Daly is a big disappointment...
aandgdesigngroup yeah I’m sure his bank account is disappointing...
Sad your clueless. Not knowing Daly is bipolar. It's assholes like u. That just do anything to knock people down
being a range rat destroyed tigers back and knee.
And being a fat alcoholic...
Steroids
Sitting around drinking beer and having a good time? That's having a good time? Not for me, rather play golf than have a beer.
Longevity counts. Tiger is washed up. John D is still playing and winning.
Joseph, either you really dislike Woods or doesn't know the history of John as a PGA golfer to make such a statement.
JD can have 5 more careers and he still won't get those 79 wins lol
Joseph Gibbons, if you think Tiger is the only pro who committed adultery, you're fooling yourself. If you're a student and fan of the game, you should be able to appreciate his talent and golfing accomplishments without confusing that with the man's personal life. I would think lesser golfing stars don't receive the same scrutiny as the top talent. Good day.
Wow Joe, that analysis sure got shoved up your a$$, didn't it?
Bud Simpson lmao... Beat me to it!! Everybody knows everything on the internet bro, dont you know that.
John Daly's talent? What biggest drunk in the PGA's history? I did love his comparison of himself to Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer and Lee Trevino...he couldn't be more different from those three. Ok, he may be like them if you take out their success, talent, commitment, dedication, and attitude maybe then he's comparable.
He did not compare himself to Nicklaus.....Also what he was trying to reference was the approach to playing the game. The guys he compared himself to were notorious for being "fun" guys that liked to hang out and have drinks with their friends and not spend countless hours banging balls on the range. Nicklaus was not that guy at all, he was more like your Tigers, Faldos, Singhs of world who would spend countless hours practicing and really did not hang out with the other guys on Tour much.
The greatest winners in any field, be it academic, sports, finance, music, business, etc, tend to be relentlessly obsessive and meticulous at whatever their interest is. That's what makes them successful/winners. The rest tinker and hope that success happens somehow. WINNERS like TIGER believe it will happen and obessively go all the way for it. That's the difference between the 25year greatest golfing success by Tiger, winning 82 PGA tournaments, compared to John Daly's moderate success. TW and JD are very different people, very different personalities,/qualities, goals and achievement objectives. Only thing in common is golf, but even then, they are leagues apart. To compare them is unfair to both. Each to their own. Just no comparison between TW's HUGE golf success and achievements to those of JD. The JD request to share a beer was a tongue in cheek! I am sure in his heart of hearts JD wishes every day that he had TW's golf skills and success!
You have nowhere near the natural talent of tiger. He is the greatest of all time
john didnt say he is better than tiger
Only few people in this world can win major twice.
tyvek05 So you think anyone can reach Tiger's level if they had Earl Woods as a dad?
You have to be trolling.
Lucas you have to chill bruh. John is an amazing natural talent. tiger is the goat but don't ever insult John like that. sit down and shut up