I really hate the market segmentation most companies force on us. The G7X and G5X should be one camera. Put the better lens on the 7, charge in the middle of the 2 prices and that's it. Why should the customers be forced to give up the better lens on the 5 or the mic jack on the 7? This is just stupid.
I agree to some extent as you know from the video, but equally having the more basic spec has allowed Canon to price the G7X III much lower than its new rivals.
Profit over sustainability: Many do use a RX100 M7 and a G5X and maybe another one with usable Fullformat. So they sold 2/3 per person instead of one and the environment crashes by the way for their benefit... of course your back too because of the heavy camera load in the backpack. 😉 I do not know, what I should buy... 2.8 is not nice for me at a RX100M7 and all the artificial, unnecessary gaps on other compact cams. Would prefer APS-C but with better lens and autofocus, stabilizer, ND-filter maybe and so on.
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I decided on the G5Xii. It's intended use is to go with me everywhere in a pocket. Especially hiking. As small as mirrorless cameras have become, my X-T3 gets heavy heavy the neck after a while and I pack it inside my backpack. I'm new to Canon but the menu system has been pretty easy to figure out and I love being able to swipe through it with the touchscreen. I've used the viewfinder more than I thought I would. Bright light composing is an obvious use but I do like reviewing photos through the viewfinder before I move on from a scene. It's just a really nice, quick camera to use and that is exactly what I bought it for. Totally happy so far.
I kinda did the same thing but opted for the previous G5XM1. You can find crazy deals on the older model now which is still a great camera. Anyway I know your pain too. I was hauling around a Sony A600? with multiple lenses and I was quickly missing the ease of use, portability and options of my old Canon G15. And the Sony menu system is terrible. I never got used to it. Also try a good wide banded lanyard as a camera strap. I put a small key ring in the camera strap loop and found a cheap lanyard with a good metal clasp and it works great!. Its comfortable, light, cheap and not in the way as much as a strap. It's also easy to detach from the lanyard which can be a good and bad thing. Which is why I picked a Lanyard with a good spring clasp and a backup detachable plastic clasp I can use if I really want it to be secure with a double connection. www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01DLMCEC0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Still happy with the G5xii? Currently stuck between it and the RX100 vii. Leaning towards the Cannon though. Just going to be using it for hiking and trips. Mainly stills and not video.
One of the best reviews I have seen on RUclips, regardless of category. Driving myself crazy looking for the best travel camera that includes great zoom, pictures and video. Vloging is not in my realm so that doesn’t impact my decision. Well presented and editing will watch again after a day or two as there was so much information. Also, as a former Brighton resident loved the setting. Thanks Gordon.
It's your two years old video but I used it as a reference to buy Canon g7x mark III. I was looking for Sony rx100 vii as an option. But it is almost twice the cost to that of Canon g7x mark III. I had Sony rx100 mark III as my previous camera. I just loved it. It used to be with me for every small trip in my bag. It fell down and was damaged beyond repair. After buying canon g7x mark III never for a minute I felt I made a mistake. Thank you for your advice
I appreciate the density of side by sides and facts with a calm voice. I get overwhelmed with over performing presenters with an excess sense of urgency and off topic antics.
Thanks, I try to present calmly and without sensationalism, but it would appear that most of RUclips prefers the madness, so please do help my views and subs increase by telling people about my videos, thanks!
I got more useful information from this one video than the many I've viewed before it. Great work cataloging the camera differences in easy to understand detail..
After watching this video several times and along with other videos. Then going to the camera store and playing with all 3 of these. Hands down getting G5 XII. The focus in normal lighting on the Canons were perfectly responsive. Thank you Gordon
Totally agree with you about Sony vs Canon. The ease of use and image color is why I switched back to Canon G series from a Sony A6000. Speaking of which I love most of the new upgrades to the Canon G5XM2 but during the Amazon Prime Sale I picked up a refurbed G5x for $400 Can ($1000 Can new or $1200 Can for the G5xM2) and I don't regret the purchase at all. Your preview of the G5xM2 also helped my purchasing decision once I saw they were moving the body to a G7 style with no flip screen. Also a G5xM1was definitely less or just as expensive as having to fork out cash for a macro lense for my A6000. I paint figurines and the poor macro performance of any of the lenses I had was getting too much. So why I'm glad I got the older model G5x after trying out the new the other day: - I prefer the viewfinder on the M1. I couldn't find a diopter on the M2. That being said having the viewfinder on the right side of the camera is better on the M2. The back of the camera is not squishing up against my nose as much. Resolution was a wash between the 2 to me. I also worry about the mechanism breaking on the new models viewfinder. - Being "limited" to 1080p video is not an issue for me. Also I loath the file size of 4K and unless you're creating content for others 1080 is great. - I love the flip screen on the M1. I put a glass screen protector on it but the piece of mind being able to shield the screen by flipping it and the versatility of the older style can't be beat. - I still have a hotshoe on the M1. Flash looks ridiculous on it but a hot shoe does give you other camera options too. - I still have usb charging and wireless data transfer. Something I couldn't give up when I was looking to get rid of my Sony A6000. USB C on the new models is Awesome though. They should ditch the mini HDMI for just the USB C. The standard can do video through it I believe. - I love the 2 front control dials and their programmability. You only have one on the M2 now. - The autofocus and low light is better on the new cameras but honestly this has gotten so good in the past few years the performance on the older G5xM1 is still great and I'm not shooting action or wildlife allot anyways. But with the stabilization in the camera I can still get some pretty decent shots of my brother's kids. - Even With the EV hump on the older M1 its still pocketable and its light enough that I wear it with a wide banded lanyard instead of a camera strap. Its plenty comfortable and gets in the way less than a full on strap. So honestly I like the new models but this is a great time to get a great camera on the cheap if you go with the older models. Also I don't have overheat BS like I did with the Sony's I've tried. 😁 Seriously that can't be good for the lifespan of those Cameras. With Canons I've always found the control dial on the back to be the weakest link but now its a full function touch screen so that's way less of an issue. I'm definitely keeping this camera till I kill it. Which may suck cause when that happens I don't think cameras like this will exist anymore. Oh and some of you may ask why not the g7x M2 or M3? I have no compunction to vlog, I want a viewfinder even though I don't use it as much as I should and I think the G5x takes slightly better pictures.
Excellent review! You've offered a number of key points I have not seen in other reviews of the new Canons which I find very valuable for making my final decision in which camera I will buy. Thank you.
This has to be the most succinct and honest camera review I have ever watched on youtube! Thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to make it. As a stills photographer, getting into video the canon G5xmk2 is the wat forward for me!
It's now March 2023, but I was nonetheless trying to decide which one of these three compact cameras to choose. Your video was really helpful. (I settled on the G5X Mk II, though they are now hard to find. While I shoot some video, my emphasis is on still photography.)
This was an EXCELLENT comparison. I love my Canon 70D (except for the maddening issue of often-missed focus), and I got a handful of lenses over the years, but I’m searching for a travel camera with which I can take better night photos than my iPhone 8. It’s tempting to try a mirrorless APS-C or FF, as I realize that would give markedly better lowlight performance, but I’m also specifically seeking something I can carry around in my flight bag (airline pilot) to capture scenery photos. Carrying around my 70D just seems a little bulky. I love iPhone size and convenience, but I end up throwing away most night scenery photos because they may look beautiful on iPhone screen but look downright crappy on computer or even iPad. Hoping the 1” sensor of the G5 X iii would be enough of an upgrade for me, and I wouldn’t regret getting something more akin to mirrorless micro 4/3 or APS-C. I was also considering the Sony RX 100 VII, but pretty sure after watching your reviews I’d be happier with the Canon G5 X iii. I’m only interested in still photography. Thanks again for great review!
You're very welcome! I'd say it's between the G5X II and RX100 VII for you. If you're shopping online, please consider going through my links in the description or at cameralabs.com thanks!
If low light is the issue, forget RX100 VII, it has a slow lens. The RX100 Mark VA has a fast lens but just 24-70 when Canon has 24-100 and 24-120. You might also consider G9 X Mark II, it is the smallest. The one inch sensor and fast f/1.8-2.0 lens give results comparable to APS-C DSLRs with the kit zoom.
Strange, no one tells. The zoom on the lens ring does not work when shooting video. This is a key function for setting the composition. I considered buying a Canon G5 X Mark II everything in it is good. But, now I began to look in the direction of the Sony RX100 VII.
This is an excellent overview of the two Canons. I am primarily a still shooter who bought the 7XII about a year ago for travel. For me, the 4K video, live streaming and microphone input are not worth the upgrade. I'm happy with what I have. Again, I'm grateful for the video.
Great review. Honest and VERY informative. A clear unbiased view of the cameras in question.I fully agree with the uploader on his choice of which interior pictures looked better - I also feel the color to be much clearer and realistic-looking on the canon G5X. I am thinking of getting one of these, and will most prob go with the G5X mk II. Thank you for the time and effort to make this video!much appreciated
Glad I found this video. Excellent comparison and perspectives not found in any of the websites or camera review videos I found so far..thank you Gordon!
Gordon, your voice always reminds me of beautiful moments 10+ years ago....early years when I started photography. Always enjoyed your camera reviews in Cameralabs. God bless you Gordon
Great review really helped me to decide which compact to get came down onto the G5 X and have ordered one, main use will be for my cycle trips and to act as a second camera to my Cannon 6D Dslr.
This was a really useful review. I'm sending myself insane debating between the G7X MkIII, the M50 or M6 MkII. I'm after a compact, but powerful camera for travel/landscape/night/concerts (in a world when we can do all these things again). I previously had an old Powershot, but about a year ago I bought a Lumix DC-FZ82, for a bigger, better camera but it's too heavy and cumbersome for convenience and so ridiculously complex to use, so I'm looking to revert back to Canon, but something not so chunky. What's your favourite between the G7X MkIII, the M50 or M6 MkII?
Thank you very much, you did an excellent review and comparison. I am actually trying to decide between the two cannons to purchase. And your video really helped me understand the differences. Cheers from Vancouver Island Canada 🇨🇦
Great review as ever from you. Thx for posting that. As a non videographer it comes for me down to better handling, better (jpg) image quality (nicer colors), brighter lens, less expensive against better auto focus and longer lens. I'd go for the 5xII any day of the week.
The biggest use case for me would be for photos (travel), video is more of a occasional thing. I'd be interested if one or the other had appreciably better rendering across the zoom range. I know it probably more down to sample variation, but if one zoom design has an inherent advantage (I'd compare them with the rx100 mk v too, the wider aperture lenses interest me more). If image quality is equal across the board, I'd lean to the longest range.
Try both in the store if you can. IMO I like both cameras but Sony's user interfaces are a killer for me. Canon seems to be much more well thought out.
@@loganholmberg2295 I tried to highlight the controls and user interface in these videos and try and get across that the Canons do feel better in this regard. Many reviews just concentrate on specs, not handling or usability.
All great cameras. It’s a matter of preference only. Either way they can all give you the same results more or less. I chose the G5X. Love this little cam cam
Great video! Canon colours in the portrait shot are definitely more pleasing to my eyes. Even watching the video on my smaller phone screen, I can see that noise reduction is better handled on the Canon. Question Gordon. For the G5X II, can you turn the camera off while the evf is still up? Or do you need to push the evf back down before turning the camera off? Also I guess you do need to pull the evf out in order for it to work. That is you need the two step process of popping it up and pulling the piece out for it to work. Thank you.
I feel like closest focusing distance (especially when zooming) is a big point for flexibility when shooting Got an old powershot a800 which will focus basically no matter what
Thanks for the review! Very well explained and a good comparison! What do you think of the autofocus ? Which of the 2 is better ? Or not much of a difference ? And how is the color ?
When I watched RUclips videos I didn't think the G7X Mark III had a good focus in the video. Photos look nice, but the autofocus on the video? Well, I don't know, I don't know if it's the right direction from Canon. If Canon does not release autofocus update, then the better option is either Sony RX100 VII or VI, at least in my opinion.
I have an iPhone 12 Pro. I mainly take photos of my gym friends jumping and kicking. Sometimes the photos blur. On hikes. Their times I want a closer shot of what I’m looking at. I also take a lot of photos of my dog. Again pics blur cause he is moving. I take photos at night and day. I’m looking at the Sony Rx100 VII and canon g5 mark 2. And I’m also looking at the Sony rx100 V. What would be the best overall camera for my situations
Would you say the G5X II is small enough to be pocketable? I like to take my camera with me to restaurants and take pictures of my friends in low light at the table and then when walking around. Sounds like the Canon cameras are better than the Sony for low light, but I still can't decide if the image quality is improved enough on the 5 vs the 7 to justify the larger size and higher price.
@@christianvixen5193 Yes, I bought it a few weeks ago and just got back from a trip with it. As far as size and weight it's definitely a bit heavier than ideal and about as big as I can handle. On my trip I put it in a case around my belt and it was easy to use. Overall I really like it and think it's quite an improvement over my RX100 III, although it's definitely not perfect.
Great comparison review. Fyi Dpreview had the same issue with the live stream on the G7x iii - would only work when right next to router. So don't assume its your Virgin Broadband. . Its pretty clear that for those more interested in the photo side the G5x ii is the better buy - if video / vlogging is your primary focus then its the G7x iii. The Sony for me is a non contender as the VII is still over £1k here in the UK so well over £300 premium over the Canons just to get better reach, better AF, simpler EVF.
Planning ahead for a vacation with lots of walking . . . I love my Nikon D5300 for stills, but it's going to be tough to lug it around with two lenses while I'm hauling my Panasonic G85 with two lenses for video - so these Canons are very interesting. Looking strictly from the still image perspective, how do you think the stills from the G5X II would compare to a DSLR like the Nikon D5300?
In bright light they would be similar. You'll notice the difference in low light, or when adjusting tonal details in post or when using different lenses for a shallow DOF effect. PS - if you're shopping online, please do consider going through my links in the description or at cameralabs.com, thanks!
@@cameralabs The DOF probably isn't as much a concern but low light could be - I'll be doing a lot of landscapes and cityscapes, but also shots inside museums, possibly night shots. I'd really like to reduce my camera bag's weight . . . this is a tough call.
@@JeffSibelius well, you'll have f1.8-2.8 on the Canon which is at least a stop brighter than most zooms you'd use on a bigger sensor, so you gain a stop of ISO back there. But if the compact is forced to go much above 1600 ISO, you'll notice a big difference. Maybe consider a mini tripod to go with it like this www.cameralabs.com/feisol-tt-15-mark-ii-mini-tripod-review/
Thank you so much, this was so informative and I appreciate this! I'm looking for a vlog camera which I think I'm going to get the G7X III, my Canon EOS R with 14-24 Sigma art will be about 2kg and I don't want to break my wrist. 🤣 I'm curious - what you used to record your camera screen, settings and autofocus when you show the camera screen? E.g. at 6:55
I have an old RX100 which I’ve kept due to its stellar sharp lens. I purchased the MKIII for the tilting screen but sent it back; just didn’t seem as sharp. Question is, I’m liking the look of Canons max f2.8 for low light but unsure wether to settle for a G7X MKII to save a lot of money or go the whole hog for the G5x (I’ll be doing photography only, no video). Do you think the MKII G7x will keep me happy compared to my Sony?
Gordon Laing Thanks Gordon. I have the EOS M6 MK1 but I’m just not feeling it for low light shooting, despite the 22mm f2 lens. I’ve always been impressed with my MK1 RX100 ... but love Canons touch screen and usage. Money is tight - if it wasn’t I’d go for the G5 MKII - but I’ve seen MKII G7X’s at less than £400 new. Ironically I have a Sony RX1 which I love; just feel limited by its slow speed. Who knows what I’ll buy lol .... but thanks for the guidance 🤗🤗🤗
Excellent video. Very thorough and helpful. Thank you. I'm looking for a high quality compact camera with manual controls that's always with me. You drilled down into three top candidates and helped me make my decision. Thanks again.
@@cameralabs I'm very interested in the X100V but I can't get my hands on one and I don't think it will fit in most pockets. Am I correct? Thanks Gordon.
Dude, amazing info. Great work. I'd personally like, for RUclips, the G7X m III with the lens of the G5X M II. I need an audio input. The focus is a big issue in these new Canon, even if it was slow enough before. I hope they can make it better with a FW update.
The G5x m2 fills a gap Sony has created by moved towards greater zoom but lower max aperture, as well as other enthusiast/professional focused features like the built in ND filter. that the RX100 m6 onwards has dropped. Its for people who want to upgrade from their RX100 m1-m5 but want to keep the higher max aperture.
If you need to shoot on a running horse, pick RX100m7. But if you want better colors specially jpeg out of camera, get any of the 2-canons. Also those canons look way better and nice to hold than the RX.
Well done for mentioning Canon colours and much much much more flattering skin tones. All you had to do was pop up that side by side comparison 😅 This is so important for a non pro photographer who doesn’t want to do post editing - taking pictures of e.g. a girlfriend on vacation, Canon literally blows Sony out of the water. Also being a nerd, I appreciate canon used a Sony sensor that is good for dynamic range and therefore good for taking pictures of landscapes as well as people. All in all I think canon is far better
Brilliant review. Thank you. I sometimes feel Camera manufacturers leave some feature out on purpose! If the G5X ii had faster autofocus it would be ideal. Bit I have an iPhone 11 Pro - am I better off just using that, and get something like a Sony a6400 as well? - Although that lacks image stabilisation. I have a Nikon d7500 (with 18-200 lens - which I just find a bit too heavy). Or if I wait - do you think there is something else likely to drop soon, as these all seem to have been around for a while now?
I like your reviews and appreciate the differences between G5’s and g7x - what I’ve been undecided on. But maybe you should change the thumbnail and title so people know you’re going to be comparing the canons to sony.
Honestly does it matter? You get the comparison between the 2 Canon's plus bonus Sony comparisons too. That makes it more useful. I don't have room to add more to the thumbnail or title, as when they get tok long, RUclips punishes you
@@cameralabs very true, and it was just a personal thought. It seemed like extra info that, while is useful, was also a bit too much for what I was looking for. Plus, others might be looking for these cameras compared to Sony and not know you’ve compared them here... Again - I enjoy your reviews, including this one. But I found myself skipping over the Sony comparisons because I was interested in what the title and thumbnail suggested. Just my own observation ✌️
Great review as always..! I am looking to buy my first camera in an attempt to learn photography and am watching many reviews in the process... I love the way you compare the features of other cameras in the same price point..! Really helps... I have a question though. These cameras (even the G7X III) are more expensive than some interchangeable lens cameras like Canon M50 or Sony A6000 that have larger sensors, better auto-focus capabilities, etc. So, I want to understand what I am paying for when I pick these over those.. There is a big size difference and that is important to me. But, with the smaller size, these come with smaller sensor and comparatively poor AF, etc. So, I am wondering if I am missing something else.. It would be great if you can compare these two classes of cameras..! Thank you.
Glad you like my videos! You're basically paying for portability / pocketability. If you don't mind carrying a bigger camera, then you'll get better quality from one and more flexibility with interchangeable lenses. But some people just want a camera that can just about squeeze in a pocket.
They did release a firmware update that helps with the auto focus issue. I would say it's "fixed" , but it still is not as fast as the Sony camera that was mentioned in this video.
What do you think about the longevity of these cameras? On older models the motorized lens would fail after some time. It doesn't look rugged but it would be nice for hiking, biking etc.
I've used G series cameras for 15 years and the weakest link has been the radial dial on the back. With touch menus that's less of an issue. Personally I've never had a motor fail on one but it probably does happen. I still have a G4 at work and it still works last time I checked. I don't use it anymore cause it doesn't have image stabilization though. lol.
g5x ii vs rx100 m6 please suggest me which camera should I buy. I use for picture only don't use video. I don't use zoom lens more than 120 mm so I prefer lens and aperture of g5x ii more than rx100 m6 but g5x ii is slow focus and doesn't has PDAF focus. I want PDAF focus on g5x ii lens. I can't decide which camera should I buy for 2 month.
Thanks for this video. Thank you very much again. I think the Canon g7x Mark III is a better solution because it has a microphone input (3.5mm), of course it's a big issue that will put the microphone but lately there are videos that give solutions to it. In addition, I am personally interested in live streming in cases where the 4G network also helps. I think I should choose a smaller resolution in this case but I will necessarily compromise. Great subject for me and the f1.8 for low lighting like dusk. Combining all of the above, I think my choice once I decide to buy a camera will be the Canon g7x Mark III. The Sony RX100 VII is good but for so much more money than the Canon g7x Mark III I think it's unprofitable.
Another review from Imaging Resource discusses the wide angle problem. “Compromises to achieve a more powerful zoom That's not to say that it's perfect, however. Canon is subject to the same laws of physics as any other manufacturer, and there are some definite compromises that have been made to achieve this impressive lens. That becomes most startlingly obvious when you open a Canon G7X raw file shot at or near wide-angle in an application that doesn't automatically provide Canon's default lens corrections. Wide-angle shot as shown above, but without correction for the abbreviated image circle of the lens. Apps like Adobe's Photoshop Lightroom and Camera Raw will provide those corrections even at their default settings, so if you restrict yourself to those, you might not notice this aspect of the design. (Or at least, you may notice its aftereffects -- some pretty dubious image quality in the corners towards wide-angle -- but not their underlying cause.) The reason becomes blindingly obvious in programs like FastRawViewer, my image culling app of choice, however. Look at an uncorrected raw file from the Canon G7X shot near wide-angle, and you realize that the lens' image circle doesn't cover the entire sensor area. 24mm-equivalent, 1/125 sec. @ f/1.8, ISO 1600 It's normal for uncorrected raws from pocket-friendly, large-sensor cameras to have strong distortion and corner vignetting, but this is nevertheless a pretty extreme example. To provide a usable image, it has to first be stretched to reach the corners -- and that means each pixel captured by the sensor in the corners ends up spanning a greater area in the final image. That's done automatically in-camera for JPEGs, and for raw files most mainstream apps will also handly it transparently for you. There's no getting around the fact that image quality is degraded in the corners, though, with a greater reduction in sharpness than we're used to seeing. If you're shooting a relatively central subject against a nicely-blurred background, you won't notice. If your image has strong detail even in the corners -- a landscape, say -- it can be pretty obvious at larger print sizes if you're paying attention.”
Thanks for your extra comments - I certainly have found the G7X III soft in the corners and this would explain why. The G5X II certainly performed better in the corners as illustrated in my video and at cameralabs.com, although I don't know if the imaging circle is any different at wide focal lengths. For these reviews I look at and compare the end result.
Great detailed review Gordon if only they had put a mic socket on the G5! Question how does the on board mics on the canon compare with the on board mics on the Sony Rx series. Cheers
Great review as usual Gordon . As a 99% still photographer I'm drawn to the G5X and it's features. I'd like a " carry most of the time advanced compact that will fit into my pocket camera" which it seems to be, what's your thoughts on it ?
Great review gordon. I am so impressed. You are so detailed and meticulous, probably the best. So let me ask you this question. If you were me, and if you wanted to choose between the three, which one would you buy? I need to buy one today
@@RavindraKumarSG as a webcam using the HDMI out? I haven't tested any of them for this, but the Canon's may support it over USB using the new webcam utility - see my video about it.
A lot of people mentioning the terrible auto-focus on the G7X III, The white box following the face but the camera never focusing. Had any of these issues?
@@DerrickW30 Yeh, i think it is to do with bad firmware, the face is always being tracked but for some reason the camera just never changes its focus onto it.
@@SideshowBob44 I would love for them to perform some kind of miracle, but the problem I noticed was that the AF hardware was slow to respond to what the software was telling it to do - it felt like most contrast-based AF systems though, and I have demonstrations and comparisons here and in my vlogging video which show it working, albeit in a leisurely fashion.
I've seen the vids, it seems like the canon focuses slow, but it does get there. A lot of people doing the selfie test seem to be kind of impatient when testing and move before it dials in. Now if you are going to move like that in use, its def a problem, but if you are not going to be moving your face and head erratically when you are doing the selfie thing it might not be. But behind the camera, it seems to focus fast when people use the touchscreen.
Is the g5x ii actually pocketable? Because it's larger then the g7x ii/iii and those are barely pocketable. I'd argue the rx100 is also barely pocketable as my VA sticks out and there's a bulge where the lens is in a large cargo shorts pocket. The VII is even thicker. I don't know why they focus so much on making the width/height so tiny yet keep the camera so thick with the large ring around the lens. There is also zero surface area to hold the rx100 because of this. I can carry a much larger smartphone because it is much thinner. Considering there are apsc fixed lens cameras with thinner bodies, I don't see why they still can't engineer a sub 40mm 1" compact properly (not counting the crappy g9x). The definition of pocket should always mean pants or trouser pocket, not a giant coat pocket.
I know what you mean and of course it depends on the pocket. BUT I'm travelling right now with an RX100 VII and a small mirrorless and the RX100 can fit into more of my pockets whereas the mirrorless cannot, which means I need a bag or a strap. Not a big problem, but the smaller camera is definitely more of a pick-up-and-go for me.
I had the rx100 (mk 1) for a few years, it was at the top limit of pants pocketable , and even then the weight of it was too much for lighter pants or shorts (you'd need a belt). The later mk versions prob are all too thick and heavy, so people are stuck with the g9x or the orig rx100. The franiec grip was the way to go on all the rx100 bodies.
Do you wear skinny Jeans? If so i'd say no. I've had not issue pocketing my G5xm1 in slacks, regular jeans, cargo shorts or jackets though. Also I find the G5x light enough to carry with a nice sized lanyard instead of a strap. You do need a belt though as well all cameras are heavier than smart phones.
@@aoikemono6414 Yeah but I'm 40. I don't wear those shitty skinny hipster jeans. lol. I wear jeans that you can actually use as workwear. They way they are supposed to be.😁
Another great review. Why couldn't Canon do a better job with their autofocus? For sports, wildlife, video; Sony, for portrait landscape and general use G5X II.
Hi, i need to buy a pcket camera. I have to chose between g5x mark 2 and g7x mark 3, using it with mi iphone xs. I travel a lot so i can't carry any reflex or mirrorless camera with me. I don't like to make video; i take a lot of photos. can you suggest me one of the two camera that i have said before? I read that g5x mark 2 is more expensive but better for taking photos. What do you think? if g7x mark 3 is good too, i can buy it and I can pay less money then g5x.
Hi Gordon, how are both the canons now following the firmware updates. I ordered the Sony but have returned due to incredible noise even at low iso like 400 making it very limited and also the colours I am used to canon now to gedcide g7xiii or g5xii
The title of your video is a comparison between Cannon's G5xii and G7xiii yet you spend the entire length of the video comparing both against the Sony RX7 series cameras. Overall a great review but you seemed to stray from the intended object?
Anyone considering either Canon will also be thinking about the Sony - or should be. So I always include comparisons against relevant models even if they're not in the title. They're hard to do, but are what make these videos useful. I find it weird many people have complained about me including the Sony in here. Think of it as a bonus or simply ignore those parts.
great review! can I use an optical slave strobe with the canon cameras? does the usb C interface make downloading large video files much faster than the USB 2.0 port on many canon dslrs?
Many thanks Gordon. Great review. I have three questions that a would be very grateful if you could answer. For purely still, non fast, best image quality photos, witch camera is best. Canon g5x mark ii Sony rx100 mark 5va Sony rx100 mark 7 Second question, I'm mad to about Canon ditching the mini dslr design of the g5x. Is the image quality noticeable better on the g5x mark ii then the regular g5x? Video is not something I'm looking for. Did they make the g5x mark ii a huge amount better in the image quality, like a big jump? I'm tempted to buy the regular just for the real viewfinder if the image quality is not that far off. And finally about your book, is it for people looking to get into photography, or more for people who really are good at it? It looks like it has some really nice pictures, is it a teaching book? Thanks a ton as always Gordon. Now if the can only nurf the g1x mark 3 to make it closer to these two.
I really hate the market segmentation most companies force on us. The G7X and G5X should be one camera. Put the better lens on the 7, charge in the middle of the 2 prices and that's it. Why should the customers be forced to give up the better lens on the 5 or the mic jack on the 7? This is just stupid.
I agree to some extent as you know from the video, but equally having the more basic spec has allowed Canon to price the G7X III much lower than its new rivals.
Profit over sustainability: Many do use a RX100 M7 and a G5X and maybe another one with usable Fullformat.
So they sold 2/3 per person instead of one and the environment crashes by the way for their benefit... of course your back too because of the heavy camera load in the backpack. 😉
I do not know, what I should buy... 2.8 is not nice for me at a RX100M7 and all the artificial, unnecessary gaps on other compact cams. Would prefer APS-C but with better lens and autofocus, stabilizer, ND-filter maybe and so on.
Probably the best camera reviewer on RUclips
Thanks Franz, I try my best! These videos take AGES to put together...
True, no unnecessary bs.
By far!
Great review. Thank you.
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I decided on the G5Xii. It's intended use is to go with me everywhere in a pocket. Especially hiking. As small as mirrorless cameras have become, my X-T3 gets heavy heavy the neck after a while and I pack it inside my backpack. I'm new to Canon but the menu system has been pretty easy to figure out and I love being able to swipe through it with the touchscreen. I've used the viewfinder more than I thought I would. Bright light composing is an obvious use but I do like reviewing photos through the viewfinder before I move on from a scene. It's just a really nice, quick camera to use and that is exactly what I bought it for. Totally happy so far.
Great stuff Ellen, thanks for your feedback! Hope you enjoy my comparisons here - I think you'll feel like you made the right choice!
I kinda did the same thing but opted for the previous G5XM1. You can find crazy deals on the older model now which is still a great camera.
Anyway I know your pain too. I was hauling around a Sony A600? with multiple lenses and I was quickly missing the ease of use, portability and options of my old Canon G15. And the Sony menu system is terrible. I never got used to it.
Also try a good wide banded lanyard as a camera strap. I put a small key ring in the camera strap loop and found a cheap lanyard with a good metal clasp and it works great!. Its comfortable, light, cheap and not in the way as much as a strap. It's also easy to detach from the lanyard which can be a good and bad thing. Which is why I picked a Lanyard with a good spring clasp and a backup detachable plastic clasp I can use if I really want it to be secure with a double connection.
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@@loganholmberg2295 yeah, there's some great deals on the G5X I.
Ellen Brooks Ditto! Using currently on my trip to Nanjing and Shanghai. Very happy with photo results.
Still happy with the G5xii? Currently stuck between it and the RX100 vii. Leaning towards the Cannon though. Just going to be using it for hiking and trips. Mainly stills and not video.
One of the best reviews I have seen on RUclips, regardless of category. Driving myself crazy looking for the best travel camera that includes great zoom, pictures and video. Vloging is not in my realm so that doesn’t impact my decision. Well presented and editing will watch again after a day or two as there was so much information. Also, as a former Brighton resident loved the setting. Thanks Gordon.
It's your two years old video but I used it as a reference to buy Canon g7x mark III. I was looking for Sony rx100 vii as an option. But it is almost twice the cost to that of Canon g7x mark III. I had Sony rx100 mark III as my previous camera. I just loved it. It used to be with me for every small trip in my bag. It fell down and was damaged beyond repair. After buying canon g7x mark III never for a minute I felt I made a mistake.
Thank you for your advice
I appreciate the density of side by sides and facts with a calm voice. I get overwhelmed with over performing presenters with an excess sense of urgency and off topic antics.
Thanks, I try to present calmly and without sensationalism, but it would appear that most of RUclips prefers the madness, so please do help my views and subs increase by telling people about my videos, thanks!
Wow this is the best review of these cameras I've watched! Thanks for going so much in depth on all 3 cameras
You're welcome, glad you found it useful!
I got more useful information from this one video than the many I've viewed before it. Great work cataloging the camera differences in easy to understand detail..
After watching this video several times and along with other videos. Then going to the camera store and playing with all 3 of these. Hands down getting G5 XII. The focus in normal lighting on the Canons were perfectly responsive. Thank you Gordon
You're welcome! Look out for new G5X II firmware soon!
Totally agree with you about Sony vs Canon. The ease of use and image color is why I switched back to Canon G series from a Sony A6000. Speaking of which I love most of the new upgrades to the Canon G5XM2 but during the Amazon Prime Sale I picked up a refurbed G5x for $400 Can ($1000 Can new or $1200 Can for the G5xM2) and I don't regret the purchase at all. Your preview of the G5xM2 also helped my purchasing decision once I saw they were moving the body to a G7 style with no flip screen. Also a G5xM1was definitely less or just as expensive as having to fork out cash for a macro lense for my A6000. I paint figurines and the poor macro performance of any of the lenses I had was getting too much.
So why I'm glad I got the older model G5x after trying out the new the other day:
- I prefer the viewfinder on the M1. I couldn't find a diopter on the M2. That being said having the viewfinder on the right side of the camera is better on the M2. The back of the camera is not squishing up against my nose as much. Resolution was a wash between the 2 to me. I also worry about the mechanism breaking on the new models viewfinder.
- Being "limited" to 1080p video is not an issue for me. Also I loath the file size of 4K and unless you're creating content for others 1080 is great.
- I love the flip screen on the M1. I put a glass screen protector on it but the piece of mind being able to shield the screen by flipping it and the versatility of the older style can't be beat.
- I still have a hotshoe on the M1. Flash looks ridiculous on it but a hot shoe does give you other camera options too.
- I still have usb charging and wireless data transfer. Something I couldn't give up when I was looking to get rid of my Sony A6000. USB C on the new models is Awesome though. They should ditch the mini HDMI for just the USB C. The standard can do video through it I believe.
- I love the 2 front control dials and their programmability. You only have one on the M2 now.
- The autofocus and low light is better on the new cameras but honestly this has gotten so good in the past few years the performance on the older G5xM1 is still great and I'm not shooting action or wildlife allot anyways. But with the stabilization in the camera I can still get some pretty decent shots of my brother's kids.
- Even With the EV hump on the older M1 its still pocketable and its light enough that I wear it with a wide banded lanyard instead of a camera strap. Its plenty comfortable and gets in the way less than a full on strap.
So honestly I like the new models but this is a great time to get a great camera on the cheap if you go with the older models. Also I don't have overheat BS like I did with the Sony's I've tried. 😁 Seriously that can't be good for the lifespan of those Cameras. With Canons I've always found the control dial on the back to be the weakest link but now its a full function touch screen so that's way less of an issue. I'm definitely keeping this camera till I kill it. Which may suck cause when that happens I don't think cameras like this will exist anymore.
Oh and some of you may ask why not the g7x M2 or M3? I have no compunction to vlog, I want a viewfinder even though I don't use it as much as I should and I think the G5x takes slightly better pictures.
thanks for your detailed feedback! Glad you enjoyed the video...
Excellent review! You've offered a number of key points I have not seen in other reviews of the new Canons which I find very valuable for making my final decision in which camera I will buy. Thank you.
You're very welcome! If you end up ordering online, please consider going through my links here or at cameralabs.com thanks!
This has to be the most succinct and honest camera review I have ever watched on youtube!
Thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to make it. As a stills photographer, getting into video the canon G5xmk2 is the wat forward for me!
It's now March 2023, but I was nonetheless trying to decide which one of these three compact cameras to choose. Your video was really helpful. (I settled on the G5X Mk II, though they are now hard to find. While I shoot some video, my emphasis is on still photography.)
Good choice!
This was an EXCELLENT comparison. I love my Canon 70D (except for the maddening issue of often-missed focus), and I got a handful of lenses over the years, but I’m searching for a travel camera with which I can take better night photos than my iPhone 8. It’s tempting to try a mirrorless APS-C or FF, as I realize that would give markedly better lowlight performance, but I’m also specifically seeking something I can carry around in my flight bag (airline pilot) to capture scenery photos. Carrying around my 70D just seems a little bulky. I love iPhone size and convenience, but I end up throwing away most night scenery photos because they may look beautiful on iPhone screen but look downright crappy on computer or even iPad. Hoping the 1” sensor of the G5 X iii would be enough of an upgrade for me, and I wouldn’t regret getting something more akin to mirrorless micro 4/3 or APS-C. I was also considering the Sony RX 100 VII, but pretty sure after watching your reviews I’d be happier with the Canon G5 X iii. I’m only interested in still photography. Thanks again for great review!
You're very welcome! I'd say it's between the G5X II and RX100 VII for you. If you're shopping online, please consider going through my links in the description or at cameralabs.com thanks!
If low light is the issue, forget RX100 VII, it has a slow lens. The RX100 Mark VA has a fast lens but just 24-70 when Canon has 24-100 and 24-120. You might also consider G9 X Mark II, it is the smallest.
The one inch sensor and fast f/1.8-2.0 lens give results comparable to APS-C DSLRs with the kit zoom.
Absolutely best camera reviewer. Easy for both beginners and enthusiasts to understand. What a boss!
Thanks, I'm really pleased you find my approach useful!
Strange, no one tells. The zoom on the lens ring does not work when shooting video. This is a key function for setting the composition. I considered buying a Canon G5 X Mark II everything in it is good. But, now I began to look in the direction of the Sony RX100 VII.
This is an excellent overview of the two Canons. I am primarily a still shooter who bought the 7XII about a year ago for travel. For me, the 4K video, live streaming and microphone input are not worth the upgrade. I'm happy with what I have. Again, I'm grateful for the video.
Great review. Honest and VERY informative. A clear unbiased view of the cameras in question.I fully agree with the uploader on his choice of which interior pictures looked better - I also feel the color to be much clearer and realistic-looking on the canon G5X. I am thinking of getting one of these, and will most prob go with the G5X mk II. Thank you for the time and effort to make this video!much appreciated
You're a good guy and an excellent reviewer. Thank you for all your efforts.
Thankyou!
Fantastic review thanks for all the work involved bringing this to light, really appreciated!!!
Thanks Chris!
Glad I found this video. Excellent comparison and perspectives not found in any of the websites or camera review videos I found so far..thank you Gordon!
Glad to help!
Gordon, your voice always reminds me of beautiful moments 10+ years ago....early years when I started photography. Always enjoyed your camera reviews in Cameralabs. God bless you Gordon
Thank you, that's a very sweet comment. Bless you too!
Thank you for taking the time to make this high quality video
Glad you found it useful!
Thanks Gordon. World class reviewer.
Another good and very helpful revue, Gordon. Thanks!
I think 13:30 is the most important point. G5Xm2 can get closer images.
Great review really helped me to decide which compact to get came down onto the G5 X and have ordered one, main use will be for my cycle trips and to act as a second camera to my Cannon 6D Dslr.
Very accurate and honest Side-to-side review for sure.
Great job, thanks a lot for sharing it !!!
You're very welcome as always! I feel I covered a lot in there!
This must have been before they fixed the focus on the G7X. I can't believe they shipped these cameras out when they can't even focus properly.
Yes, I filmed a newer video showing the impact of the firmware update
@@cameralabs If you order a G7X III now, does it come with the firmware installed or does the consumer still have to install it?
@@poolboyinla depends how old the stock is. It's easy to install though.
@@cameralabs Like your review. May I ask if the firmware update both for G7iii and G5ii? Means exact same focus on these two cameras? Thx.
@@ruochi010 I think so, but haven't tested the updated G5X so can't say for sure.
This was a really useful review. I'm sending myself insane debating between the G7X MkIII, the M50 or M6 MkII. I'm after a compact, but powerful camera for travel/landscape/night/concerts (in a world when we can do all these things again). I previously had an old Powershot, but about a year ago I bought a Lumix DC-FZ82, for a bigger, better camera but it's too heavy and cumbersome for convenience and so ridiculously complex to use, so I'm looking to revert back to Canon, but something not so chunky. What's your favourite between the G7X MkIII, the M50 or M6 MkII?
I think g5x would be the better choice pr a fujifilm x100v but it's pricy
Thank you very much, you did an excellent review and comparison. I am actually trying to decide between the two cannons to purchase. And your video really helped me understand the differences. Cheers from Vancouver Island Canada 🇨🇦
You're welcome!
Great review as ever from you. Thx for posting that. As a non videographer it comes for me down to better handling, better (jpg) image quality (nicer colors), brighter lens, less expensive against better auto focus and longer lens. I'd go for the 5xII any day of the week.
This is the best comparison so far... thank you :-)
Thanks! I spent a lot of time on it...
Thanks for your comprehensive review.
You're welcome!
The biggest use case for me would be for photos (travel), video is more of a occasional thing. I'd be interested if one or the other had appreciably better rendering across the zoom range. I know it probably more down to sample variation, but if one zoom design has an inherent advantage (I'd compare them with the rx100 mk v too, the wider aperture lenses interest me more). If image quality is equal across the board, I'd lean to the longest range.
Sounds like the G5X II is the better choice for you.
Try both in the store if you can.
IMO I like both cameras but Sony's user interfaces are a killer for me. Canon seems to be much more well thought out.
@@loganholmberg2295 I tried to highlight the controls and user interface in these videos and try and get across that the Canons do feel better in this regard. Many reviews just concentrate on specs, not handling or usability.
Excellent video! Just what I needed.
You're welcome! Also check out the new V10 which I have on my channel.
best review of these 3 cameras. should have put the rx100 vii in the description tho. probably would have gotten many more hits.
All great cameras. It’s a matter of preference only. Either way they can all give you the same results more or less. I chose the G5X. Love this little cam cam
Bravo!!!!
Detailed, comprehensive and very informative. Gordon, your content is superb. I bought your book. Love it.
Glad you found it useful, and thanks for buying my book!
I finally chose g7x mk3 and uploaded the video I bought.
Are you happy with it?
Thanks for the detailed comparison. Very helpful.
You're very welcome!
Good detailed review and comparison. G5X II seems like it fell short without the audio input. But still a good quality compact camera.
Most people do not use external microphones. These cameras mostly are for secondary use when your main camera is not with you.
Thank you for another excellent review!
Great video! Canon colours in the portrait shot are definitely more pleasing to my eyes. Even watching the video on my smaller phone screen, I can see that noise reduction is better handled on the Canon. Question Gordon. For the G5X II, can you turn the camera off while the evf is still up? Or do you need to push the evf back down before turning the camera off? Also I guess you do need to pull the evf out in order for it to work. That is you need the two step process of popping it up and pulling the piece out for it to work. Thank you.
Some great points but the title is misleading- this became a Sony promo video comparing them to Canon
Canon's bokeh and colours are definitely nicer than Sony's (12:24 and 15:06 respectively)
I feel like closest focusing distance (especially when zooming) is a big point for flexibility when shooting
Got an old powershot a800 which will focus basically no matter what
Thanks for the review! Very well explained and a good comparison! What do you think of the autofocus ? Which of the 2 is better ? Or not much of a difference ? And how is the color ?
Colours are the same and the AF is v similar, so it depends on the lens and features.
When I watched RUclips videos I didn't think the G7X Mark III had a good focus in the video. Photos look nice, but the autofocus on the video? Well, I don't know, I don't know if it's the right direction from Canon. If Canon does not release autofocus update, then the better option is either Sony RX100 VII or VI, at least in my opinion.
The Canon G5X mark II practically sold itself.
for how much more ??? lol
Thank you fOr this VERY in-depth review!
You're welcome!
I have an iPhone 12 Pro. I mainly take photos of my gym friends jumping and kicking. Sometimes the photos blur. On hikes. Their times I want a closer shot of what I’m looking at. I also take a lot of photos of my dog. Again pics blur cause he is moving. I take photos at night and day. I’m looking at the Sony Rx100 VII and canon g5 mark 2. And I’m also looking at the Sony rx100 V. What would be the best overall camera for my situations
Would you say the G5X II is small enough to be pocketable? I like to take my camera with me to restaurants and take pictures of my friends in low light at the table and then when walking around. Sounds like the Canon cameras are better than the Sony for low light, but I still can't decide if the image quality is improved enough on the 5 vs the 7 to justify the larger size and higher price.
It needs a big pocket, so think jacket or coat or cargo pants.
@@cameralabs Thank you! I just ordered the camera. Can't wait to try it out
@@maxpowers3732 did you buyed g5xii? How it is?
@@christianvixen5193 Yes, I bought it a few weeks ago and just got back from a trip with it. As far as size and weight it's definitely a bit heavier than ideal and about as big as I can handle. On my trip I put it in a case around my belt and it was easy to use. Overall I really like it and think it's quite an improvement over my RX100 III, although it's definitely not perfect.
@@maxpowers3732 how is the video quality? I don t know what to choose g5 or g7x iii or Sony rx100 7 😩
Great comparison review. Fyi Dpreview had the same issue with the live stream on the G7x iii - would only work when right next to router. So don't assume its your Virgin Broadband.
. Its pretty clear that for those more interested in the photo side the G5x ii is the better buy - if video / vlogging is your primary focus then its the G7x iii. The Sony for me is a non contender as the VII is still over £1k here in the UK so well over £300 premium over the Canons just to get better reach, better AF, simpler EVF.
Yeah, that Sony is getting a bit high.
dizzying but scoped. great work.
love your reviews.
Thanks!
Been looking for a fixed lens camera, looks like canon G5X mk 2 is the way to go. And yea, just too bad no mic in for it
Planning ahead for a vacation with lots of walking . . . I love my Nikon D5300 for stills, but it's going to be tough to lug it around with two lenses while I'm hauling my Panasonic G85 with two lenses for video - so these Canons are very interesting. Looking strictly from the still image perspective, how do you think the stills from the G5X II would compare to a DSLR like the Nikon D5300?
In bright light they would be similar. You'll notice the difference in low light, or when adjusting tonal details in post or when using different lenses for a shallow DOF effect. PS - if you're shopping online, please do consider going through my links in the description or at cameralabs.com, thanks!
@@cameralabs The DOF probably isn't as much a concern but low light could be - I'll be doing a lot of landscapes and cityscapes, but also shots inside museums, possibly night shots. I'd really like to reduce my camera bag's weight . . . this is a tough call.
@@JeffSibelius well, you'll have f1.8-2.8 on the Canon which is at least a stop brighter than most zooms you'd use on a bigger sensor, so you gain a stop of ISO back there. But if the compact is forced to go much above 1600 ISO, you'll notice a big difference. Maybe consider a mini tripod to go with it like this www.cameralabs.com/feisol-tt-15-mark-ii-mini-tripod-review/
Thank you so much, this was so informative and I appreciate this! I'm looking for a vlog camera which I think I'm going to get the G7X III, my Canon EOS R with 14-24 Sigma art will be about 2kg and I don't want to break my wrist. 🤣
I'm curious - what you used to record your camera screen, settings and autofocus when you show the camera screen? E.g. at 6:55
If it's just the menus, I use the atomos Ninja v. Ic uts tge whole camera, I film with Sony a6400
Got an RX100 vii, brand new for pretty much the same price as the Canon g5x ii. Well worth the money is the very definition of a pocket rocket!
Nice! There's still nothing with the RX100 VII feature set.
Great review!!
Thanks for the great review! Which of the two do you recommend for video shooting? What do you think about autofocus?
I'd recommend the Sony ZV1 now.
@@cameralabs Are those two similar? I like the color of canon
@@달-n3f AF is the same on both Canons - not as good as the Sony, but the Canon colours are preferred by many.
I have an old RX100 which I’ve kept due to its stellar sharp lens. I purchased the MKIII for the tilting screen but sent it back; just didn’t seem as sharp. Question is, I’m liking the look of Canons max f2.8 for low light but unsure wether to settle for a G7X MKII to save a lot of money or go the whole hog for the G5x (I’ll be doing photography only, no video). Do you think the MKII G7x will keep me happy compared to my Sony?
Only you can decide - here are my sample images: www.cameralabs.com/canon-powershot-g7x-iii-review/3/
Gordon Laing Thanks Gordon. I have the EOS M6 MK1 but I’m just not feeling it for low light shooting, despite the 22mm f2 lens. I’ve always been impressed with my MK1 RX100 ... but love Canons touch screen and usage. Money is tight - if it wasn’t I’d go for the G5 MKII - but I’ve seen MKII G7X’s at less than £400 new. Ironically I have a Sony RX1 which I love; just feel limited by its slow speed. Who knows what I’ll buy lol .... but thanks for the guidance 🤗🤗🤗
So for low light, zoom, fast focus concert photography, would you say the Sony is top pick?
For focus and zoom range, definitely the Sony.
@@cameralabs Thank you! Subscribed to your channel!
Excellent video. Very thorough and helpful. Thank you.
I'm looking for a high quality compact camera with manual controls that's always with me. You drilled down into three top candidates and helped me make my decision. Thanks again.
You're welcome, also consider Fujifilm X100 series
@@cameralabs I'm very interested in the X100V but I can't get my hands on one and I don't think it will fit in most pockets. Am I correct? Thanks Gordon.
@@dpasadis true on both counts, but I still love it!
Dude, amazing info. Great work. I'd personally like, for RUclips, the G7X m III with the lens of the G5X M II. I need an audio input. The focus is a big issue in these new Canon, even if it was slow enough before. I hope they can make it better with a FW update.
There is a firmware update coming. Watch this space.
The G5x m2 fills a gap Sony has created by moved towards greater zoom but lower max aperture, as well as other enthusiast/professional focused features like the built in ND filter. that the RX100 m6 onwards has dropped.
Its for people who want to upgrade from their RX100 m1-m5 but want to keep the higher max aperture.
If you need to shoot on a running horse, pick RX100m7.
But if you want better colors specially jpeg out of camera, get any of the 2-canons.
Also those canons look way better and nice to hold than the RX.
Since the latest heatwave in Europe and other places in the world, I think reconsidering heated instruments is an inevitable concern.
It's a G7X III vs G5X II review which spends more time talking about Sony than Canon.
I was testing the Sony at the same time and anyone considering either Canon model should know about their biggest rival too.
Grant McWilliams I was about to say the same thing 😱
Well done for mentioning Canon colours and much much much more flattering skin tones. All you had to do was pop up that side by side comparison 😅 This is so important for a non pro photographer who doesn’t want to do post editing - taking pictures of e.g. a girlfriend on vacation, Canon literally blows Sony out of the water. Also being a nerd, I appreciate canon used a Sony sensor that is good for dynamic range and therefore good for taking pictures of landscapes as well as people. All in all I think canon is far better
Sony has improved in recent models
Brilliant review. Thank you. I sometimes feel Camera manufacturers leave some feature out on purpose! If the G5X ii had faster autofocus it would be ideal. Bit I have an iPhone 11 Pro - am I better off just using that, and get something like a Sony a6400 as well? - Although that lacks image stabilisation. I have a Nikon d7500 (with 18-200 lens - which I just find a bit too heavy). Or if I wait - do you think there is something else likely to drop soon, as these all seem to have been around for a while now?
I like your reviews and appreciate the differences between G5’s and g7x - what I’ve been undecided on. But maybe you should change the thumbnail and title so people know you’re going to be comparing the canons to sony.
Honestly does it matter? You get the comparison between the 2 Canon's plus bonus Sony comparisons too. That makes it more useful. I don't have room to add more to the thumbnail or title, as when they get tok long, RUclips punishes you
@@cameralabs very true, and it was just a personal thought. It seemed like extra info that, while is useful, was also a bit too much for what I was looking for. Plus, others might be looking for these cameras compared to Sony and not know you’ve compared them here... Again - I enjoy your reviews, including this one. But I found myself skipping over the Sony comparisons because I was interested in what the title and thumbnail suggested. Just my own observation ✌️
I wish they'd stuck with the original G5x design... kept the shape, hotshoe etc.
Great review as always..! I am looking to buy my first camera in an attempt to learn photography and am watching many reviews in the process... I love the way you compare the features of other cameras in the same price point..! Really helps... I have a question though.
These cameras (even the G7X III) are more expensive than some interchangeable lens cameras like Canon M50 or Sony A6000 that have larger sensors, better auto-focus capabilities, etc. So, I want to understand what I am paying for when I pick these over those.. There is a big size difference and that is important to me. But, with the smaller size, these come with smaller sensor and comparatively poor AF, etc. So, I am wondering if I am missing something else..
It would be great if you can compare these two classes of cameras..!
Thank you.
Glad you like my videos! You're basically paying for portability / pocketability. If you don't mind carrying a bigger camera, then you'll get better quality from one and more flexibility with interchangeable lenses. But some people just want a camera that can just about squeeze in a pocket.
Great review thanks for making. If they can fix the autofocus I will have the g7xiii 🙂
They did release a firmware update that helps with the auto focus issue. I would say it's "fixed" , but it still is not as fast as the Sony camera that was mentioned in this video.
What do you think about the longevity of these cameras? On older models the motorized lens would fail after some time. It doesn't look rugged but it would be nice for hiking, biking etc.
I've used G series cameras for 15 years and the weakest link has been the radial dial on the back. With touch menus that's less of an issue. Personally I've never had a motor fail on one but it probably does happen. I still have a G4 at work and it still works last time I checked. I don't use it anymore cause it doesn't have image stabilization though. lol.
g5x ii vs rx100 m6 please suggest me which camera should I buy. I use for picture only don't use video. I don't use zoom lens more than 120 mm so I prefer lens and aperture of g5x ii more than rx100 m6 but g5x ii is slow focus and doesn't has PDAF focus. I want PDAF focus on g5x ii lens. I can't decide which camera should I buy for 2 month.
Thanks for this video. Thank you very much again. I think the Canon g7x Mark III is a better solution because it has a microphone input (3.5mm), of course it's a big issue that will put the microphone but lately there are videos that give solutions to it. In addition, I am personally interested in live streming in cases where the 4G network also helps. I think I should choose a smaller resolution in this case but I will necessarily compromise. Great subject for me and the f1.8 for low lighting like dusk. Combining all of the above, I think my choice once I decide to buy a camera will be the Canon g7x Mark III. The Sony RX100 VII is good but for so much more money than the Canon g7x Mark III I think it's unprofitable.
Which the better camera Gx7 iii Sony Rx100 or DSC HX80???
The one you get the best price on.
Another review from Imaging Resource discusses the wide angle problem. “Compromises to achieve a more powerful zoom
That's not to say that it's perfect, however. Canon is subject to the same laws of physics as any other manufacturer, and there are some definite compromises that have been made to achieve this impressive lens. That becomes most startlingly obvious when you open a Canon G7X raw file shot at or near wide-angle in an application that doesn't automatically provide Canon's default lens corrections.
Wide-angle shot as shown above, but without correction for the abbreviated image circle of the lens.
Apps like Adobe's Photoshop Lightroom and Camera Raw will provide those corrections even at their default settings, so if you restrict yourself to those, you might not notice this aspect of the design. (Or at least, you may notice its aftereffects -- some pretty dubious image quality in the corners towards wide-angle -- but not their underlying cause.)
The reason becomes blindingly obvious in programs like FastRawViewer, my image culling app of choice, however. Look at an uncorrected raw file from the Canon G7X shot near wide-angle, and you realize that the lens' image circle doesn't cover the entire sensor area.
24mm-equivalent, 1/125 sec. @ f/1.8, ISO 1600
It's normal for uncorrected raws from pocket-friendly, large-sensor cameras to have strong distortion and corner vignetting, but this is nevertheless a pretty extreme example. To provide a usable image, it has to first be stretched to reach the corners -- and that means each pixel captured by the sensor in the corners ends up spanning a greater area in the final image.
That's done automatically in-camera for JPEGs, and for raw files most mainstream apps will also handly it transparently for you. There's no getting around the fact that image quality is degraded in the corners, though, with a greater reduction in sharpness than we're used to seeing. If you're shooting a relatively central subject against a nicely-blurred background, you won't notice. If your image has strong detail even in the corners -- a landscape, say -- it can be pretty obvious at larger print sizes if you're paying attention.”
Thanks for your extra comments - I certainly have found the G7X III soft in the corners and this would explain why. The G5X II certainly performed better in the corners as illustrated in my video and at cameralabs.com, although I don't know if the imaging circle is any different at wide focal lengths. For these reviews I look at and compare the end result.
Great detailed review Gordon if only they had put a mic socket on the G5!
Question how does the on board mics on the canon compare with the on board mics on the Sony Rx series.
Cheers
I think the Canon built-in mics are a bit better
GREAT review!!!!
Thanks!
Great review as usual Gordon . As a 99% still photographer I'm drawn to the G5X and it's features. I'd like a " carry most of the time advanced compact that will fit into my pocket camera" which it seems to be, what's your thoughts on it ?
I like it a lot, but right now I'm preferring the Fujifilm X100V.
@@cameralabs It's on my short list but it is not really pocketable.
@@iandrury1542 I hear ya.
Great review gordon. I am so impressed. You are so detailed and meticulous, probably the best. So let me ask you this question. If you were me, and if you wanted to choose between the three, which one would you buy? I need to buy one today
If I were you, I'd know what you were going to be using it for! If you can afford it, get the Sony.
@@cameralabs Thats a very clear answer. Sony it is then.. :-). Thanks buddy
@@cameralabs I will be using it for mostly facebook live and youtube live
@@RavindraKumarSG as a webcam using the HDMI out? I haven't tested any of them for this, but the Canon's may support it over USB using the new webcam utility - see my video about it.
@@cameralabs sony a6400 cant do webcam using micro hdmi interface?
A lot of people mentioning the terrible auto-focus on the G7X III, The white box following the face but the camera never focusing.
Had any of these issues?
Something I noticed, the Canon USA Twitter account mentioned they are working on a fix. It needs one. We shall see.....
@@DerrickW30 Yeh, i think it is to do with bad firmware, the face is always being tracked but for some reason the camera just never changes its focus onto it.
@@SideshowBob44 I would love for them to perform some kind of miracle, but the problem I noticed was that the AF hardware was slow to respond to what the software was telling it to do - it felt like most contrast-based AF systems though, and I have demonstrations and comparisons here and in my vlogging video which show it working, albeit in a leisurely fashion.
I've seen the vids, it seems like the canon focuses slow, but it does get there. A lot of people doing the selfie test seem to be kind of impatient when testing and move before it dials in. Now if you are going to move like that in use, its def a problem, but if you are not going to be moving your face and head erratically when you are doing the selfie thing it might not be. But behind the camera, it seems to focus fast when people use the touchscreen.
@@jonuiuc1 exactly, it's important to test more thoroughly.
Which is better for vlogging between the EOS m6 and the g5x ?
Great review in all aspects.
Thanks!
Is the g5x ii actually pocketable? Because it's larger then the g7x ii/iii and those are barely pocketable. I'd argue the rx100 is also barely pocketable as my VA sticks out and there's a bulge where the lens is in a large cargo shorts pocket. The VII is even thicker. I don't know why they focus so much on making the width/height so tiny yet keep the camera so thick with the large ring around the lens. There is also zero surface area to hold the rx100 because of this. I can carry a much larger smartphone because it is much thinner. Considering there are apsc fixed lens cameras with thinner bodies, I don't see why they still can't engineer a sub 40mm 1" compact properly (not counting the crappy g9x). The definition of pocket should always mean pants or trouser pocket, not a giant coat pocket.
I know what you mean and of course it depends on the pocket. BUT I'm travelling right now with an RX100 VII and a small mirrorless and the RX100 can fit into more of my pockets whereas the mirrorless cannot, which means I need a bag or a strap. Not a big problem, but the smaller camera is definitely more of a pick-up-and-go for me.
I had the rx100 (mk 1) for a few years, it was at the top limit of pants pocketable , and even then the weight of it was too much for lighter pants or shorts (you'd need a belt). The later mk versions prob are all too thick and heavy, so people are stuck with the g9x or the orig rx100. The franiec grip was the way to go on all the rx100 bodies.
Do you wear skinny Jeans? If so i'd say no. I've had not issue pocketing my G5xm1 in slacks, regular jeans, cargo shorts or jackets though. Also I find the G5x light enough to carry with a nice sized lanyard instead of a strap. You do need a belt though as well all cameras are heavier than smart phones.
@@loganholmberg2295 you can carry the g5x with the evf hump in jeans???!! 🙀
@@aoikemono6414 Yeah but I'm 40. I don't wear those shitty skinny hipster jeans. lol. I wear jeans that you can actually use as workwear. They way they are supposed to be.😁
Another great review. Why couldn't Canon do a better job with their autofocus? For sports, wildlife, video; Sony, for portrait landscape and general use G5X II.
Canon USA says a fix is coming. But that remains to be seen........
Hi, i need to buy a pcket camera. I have to chose between g5x mark 2 and g7x mark 3, using it with mi iphone xs. I travel a lot so i can't carry any reflex or mirrorless camera with me. I don't like to make video; i take a lot of photos. can you suggest me one of the two camera that i have said before? I read that g5x mark 2 is more expensive but better for taking photos. What do you think? if g7x mark 3 is good too, i can buy it and I can pay less money then g5x.
Nicola Amoriello You should watch the video for the answer?
Hi Gordon, how are both the canons now following the firmware updates. I ordered the Sony but have returned due to incredible noise even at low iso like 400 making it very limited and also the colours I am used to canon now to gedcide g7xiii or g5xii
Thank you for reply. I love your work!
Great video!!!
The title of your video is a comparison between Cannon's G5xii and G7xiii yet you spend the entire length of the video comparing both against the Sony RX7 series cameras. Overall a great review but you seemed to stray from the intended object?
Anyone considering either Canon will also be thinking about the Sony - or should be. So I always include comparisons against relevant models even if they're not in the title. They're hard to do, but are what make these videos useful. I find it weird many people have complained about me including the Sony in here. Think of it as a bonus or simply ignore those parts.
great review! can I use an optical slave strobe with the canon cameras? does the usb C interface make downloading large video files much faster than the USB 2.0 port on many canon dslrs?
Many thanks Gordon. Great review. I have three questions that a would be very grateful if you could answer.
For purely still, non fast, best image quality photos, witch camera is best.
Canon g5x mark ii
Sony rx100 mark 5va
Sony rx100 mark 7
Second question, I'm mad to about Canon ditching the mini dslr design of the g5x. Is the image quality noticeable better on the g5x mark ii then the regular g5x? Video is not something I'm looking for. Did they make the g5x mark ii a huge amount better in the image quality, like a big jump? I'm tempted to buy the regular just for the real viewfinder if the image quality is not that far off.
And finally about your book, is it for people looking to get into photography, or more for people who really are good at it? It looks like it has some really nice pictures, is it a teaching book?
Thanks a ton as always Gordon. Now if the can only nurf the g1x mark 3 to make it closer to these two.
What size of an SD card is good for this type of camera? 64 GB or 128 GB?
Very good video, I made my decision. Thank you so much.