House knew there was a chance the girl would go back on her word after seeing Cuddy and the baby together. He wanted Cuddy out of the operating room for more than a couple reasons.
@@rubyprice946 House always cares, he just lacks social mannerisms which allow the rest of us to put things in a more delicate manner. Plus he's a big fan of being blunt, unless you work for him
Worst part is she'll be measuring her success as a mother by how well it stands up to her feelings from that moment. She'll end up feeling like a loser and a failure anyway, and that's just a self fulfilling prophecy waiting to repeat itself in a new generation...
Why can't Cuddy just keep the kid anyway? They already made the agreement, the biological mom has no right to have the baby that she didn't want in the first place.
@@foolslayer9416 No, as it turned out, mothers have some period of time within which they can change their mind and nullify the agreement with adoptive parents legally thus keeping the child(((
@@gideonjones8088 Yes, exactly, she already put all her hopes into her child, which is wrong. Children should not be ''chances to change'' or anything, they should just be loved and cared for. But in this case she will put high expectations on her child and if she fails to meet them, she will resent her daughter and inevitably feel as a loser cause all her life now is in her child...
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 True. In expecting this child to really change her life, she'll probably end up teaching her daughter to see herself as a failure as well because she didn't give her mother some kind of happiness that no child can or should be expected to provide for someone else.
@@taco8077 You're the one thinking about internet points, using an unoriginal format, failing to understand that others just like to make conversation.
@@taco8077 You know, you're proving my point by trying to compare small talk to an important discussion in an attempt to subjugate it. You don't understand what's happening, although, you do seemingly understand petty confrontations. Like myself.
There is no way a doctor/hospital administrator would be allowed to interact this intimately with one of her patients whose baby she's planning to adopt. The sad punchline of the patient changing her mind is exactly why.
You are correct. The hospitals don't allow adoptee parents near the birth parents without specifiable reason or they interact well. The mom was swimming in pain killers, and just popped out a baby, Cuddy would not have gone into that room.
This..this is a tv drama. I'm pretty sure most of what happens in this show (just like other hospital dramas) wouldn't happen in real life or be allowed in a real hospital.
Stories are written within a context of what we recognize and find believable. If they completely ignored that we wouldn't be able to connect to anything. That's why there's a thing called suspension of disbelief. And this scene, in a show that usually dances around it acceptably enough, shatters it.
@@lundylow I think only a few people who are looking at this point a little too deep for a tv drama would kind of care about all of this. 95% of this show is pretty much "unbelievable", but people love it anyway for the drama and the comedy. Believability would be more of a factor in a reality show than a tv drama, unless you're a doctor or a nurse who think most people know the ins and outs of hospitals and all the rules they run on.
@@android17lover also lets not forget that the people who make these decisions of not interacting with personal patients are the administrators......who is the person involved in this particular case, where every doctor seems to like her and wouldnt report her anyway, and there's no reason really she shouldnt be able to do this with all the power she has. basically we'd just be acknowledging the fact that doctors can also abuse their power in high positions too.
Well, bring a baby into this world and we'll see if you'll consider him just as a "toy". Cuddy is right about hormons - those hormons make a mom love her baby. I'm glad the mom found force to claim her baby back. I just can't stand this adopting system with baby farming
Anna Heart it wasn’t baby farming. She got pregnant through carelessness and then told a woman she could have a child. She allowed her to love the child and have hope, only to snatch it away at the last minute because she got jealous over the thing she was more than happy to let die to save her own neck a few hours before. I don’t know how you can be happy about that, it’s pretty fucked up.
@@annaheart7731 do you realize how many children are in the system, created but not wanted, or abused and neglected, and how many people have fertility issues or no partners but could give these children a good home? "Baby farming" isn't the problem irresponsible breeding practice is.
Back in the day when my parents adopted my brother and I; the birth mother had a full year to change her mind. My parents said it was the longest most painful wait of their lives. To know that for a year you have loved and cared for a child that could be taken away at any moment and legally you have no rights. Heartbreaking.
A YEAR!! like a month max. No way the bm should get a whole year to decide "mmmm do I want the baby?? Do I not want the baby??" The whole pregnancy plus the extra year is not ok
My coworker adopted a child and the birth mother had 2 weeks (or 2 months?? I can't remember, argh) to change her mind after he received the baby. I thought that was shocking, that you could adopt a baby and have it taken away. But one year!! omg, what a fright the deadline must have been as it approached
@@kjones3748 well it depends for example my son was taken away from me because I I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant and I was using and he was placed with foster parents who were planning to adopt him but the court were trying to give me every chance to get my s*** together which took about a year. Needless to say I gave up because I knew that they could give him a better life than I ever could because i was homeless and still dealing with my addiction.. And it's the best decision I've ever made they call us all the time I still get a keep contact with him. His parenta have become my family as well. I got my life together I had a daughter and they get to talk to each other and its just wonderful.
@@kimberlyshryack that's a different situation tho cuz cuddy was already going to adopt her not foster then adopt if I'm correct. And I glad you got better and you have a daughter now❤
7 months clean, 8 months pregnant. CPS would be on her case and odds are she would go back to drugs after dealing with a newborn for a couple months on her own
its impossible to know youre pregnant the first few weeks, if she had no idea then its not her fault. the baby was a tiny ball of a few cells and she had no idea the first month. onelate period and suddenly she may have realised
It’s so cruel to do that to a person. She even said before that it wasn’t her baby and she didn’t wanted to make another sacrifice for her. If you are going to change your mind at least do it before the other family meets the baby.
Dude, she literally delivered her. I get what you are saying but being pregnant, and seeing the kid after she is delivered are two totally different things.
@@henrypeters5291 I remember sitting in front of the screen going, "Don't show her the baby, dont show her the baby, don't show her the ba- Goddamnit!!!" I wish Cuddy could keep Joy anyway. Stupid kid, she did all that work delivering a kid, 10 weeks early then goes, "I want the kid that I said wasn't mine 10 minutes ago!" Idiot.
@@henrypeters5291 Shes young and dumb and doesnt have the resources to take care of that child. Soo your point? I dont care if she got knocked up and birthed it she still shouldnt be able to keep it. Also she was going to choose to kill it at one point
Henry Peters i get your point too but thats why many mothers decide to not see the baby. The risk of changing your mind is too high and if she already knew she wasn’t capable to give her child the life she wanted for her, she should have sticked to it. The reality is that she isn’t stable and that will most likely repercute on her daughter’s life.
She is mother she has all rights to do it. She was manipulated. There are plenty Of people who does better than their parents. Cuddy still manipulates her. There are plenty babies in Orphanage. Sick ones for ex. But ofc newborn is a treat.
@Mtpimenta i've never been in severe pain but I believe a painful life is better than no life at all. He may suffer but at least he's alive. You get to be alive only once after all. Then again that's just my opinion , if he suffers too much ending it may be the way to go. I guess it depends on how severe the pain is. If its so painful that you barely stay conscious then maybe death will be better. But then if you think about it you have eternity to not feel anything so staying alive might be better even if it's pain.
That girl infuriates me. She literally called her baby "a stupid mistake" and wasn't willing to wait a week to deliver the baby to give her child a better chance of survival. Then, when she sees Cuddy (who genuinely cared about the baby), she suddenly decides that she also wants the baby again? She's indecisive at best, just flat out incapable of sensible decision at worst. That baby is gonna suffer with a mother like that.
Also did it never occur to her that she could make anouther baby? Like girl everything seems to working wait a couple months to heal and find you a good enough looking/good guy in generally.
That’s the irony of it all. She was afraid of being a loser of a mom and that’s exactly where her mindset is going to lead her in the future with the daughter. I was absolutely shattered when she took back the baby.
"That girl" is the baby's mother. Full stop. Yes, she was young and confused; and in her youth and confusion and the cold difficulties of unplanned pregnancy without a loving husband, she was frightened at the prospect of having a baby -- until she actually saw her baby, and saw the face of love. And realized that she wanted to be a loving mother instead of abandon her baby. And the raw truth is, this was still her baby. Yes, Cuddy's emotions were traumatized by having that hope offered and then withdrawn -- but the biological mother's emotions would have been traumatized too, if she had left her baby in another woman's arms even after realizing she wanted to love and mother her own child herself. And whereas Cuddy can adopt another baby (and ultimately did), this girl would always have known that her own biological baby, her own flesh and blood, was forever lost to her.
She was jealous of Cuddy's happiness in that one moment. She wanted to experience that same happiness that's why she wanted the baby. It wasn't because she felt sorry, she was just being selfish again. After all that speech about not wanting to give that happiness away, it was a momentary thing at best.
Exactly, that was pure selfishness, she expected a BABY to magically change her life and personality and fix all her problems thus already placing a burden on a child and paving way to future resentment...
This happened to my mom, except she was a baby. Birth mother gave her up due to personal circumstances at home, 3 months later decided they wanted my mom and took her from her adoptive parents.
Ada Harrison In NC its 7 days, but at ANY time after that, a mother can get a lawyer and get a baby/kid back by claiming she wasn't in her right mind or was pressured to signing the child over. Say for instance the mother was a drug user when she gave the baby up for adoption, months later she gets out of rehab and wants the baby back, she can claim she wasn't thinking straight when she made that decision and more than likely get the baby back, months or a year or two after the kids already been adopted. I've seen it happen.
@@anushkatroian2838 Yeah she did what house would have done only she did it for a different reason. But it wasn't unjustified, she thought that the baby was gonna be hers therefor making sure the mother is healthy is in her best interests. And funnily in her doing that she's being a better mother than the woman will ever be.
@@dengueberries she took the coin and ate it, that's not feeding. That's like if there was bleach under the sink and someone drank it and we called THAT feeding. Ridiculous.
The patient even let her be the first to hold the baby that she thought was hers, the pain Cuddy must have gone though when the girl said she changed her mind and was going to keep it, must have been absolutely heart-wrenching!
"When I saw you hold her, and the look on your face... It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen...... And that's when I realized... That I can't." Man, that was probably the cruelest way of wording your decision. "Wow, dude, you and that baby sure looked happy! It was amazing I'm so happy for you! But it's my baby now so I'm sorry."
This is one of the saddest moments of the entire show. Lisa conveys Cuddy's heartbreak so well that it causes physical pain to see her agony. Tragedy done beautifully.
“I’m a prior drug addict with nothing going for me who wanted to not only give up this baby but kill it in favor for my own life, but seeing how happy and complete you looked, someone who wanted the baby more than ever and is a million times more fit to be a parent than me, made me want to feel that way. Give me my kid back” god I’ve never wanted to punch a fictional character so badly
@@biencj OMG Yes! Cuddy should have come down on her with the verbal wrath that we know she's capable of. She knew enough about this girl to mentally poke her apart without raising her voice. I even think House would have jumped in if Cuddy had asked nicely. This crappy mother would be too distraught after that to do anything.
Gonna be real awkward when the kid finds out its mother's first two actions were to put it up for adoption and then put her own life before its own. Difficult thanksgiving that one
@@annaheart7731 Not really, he/she WOULD understand the situation but that doesn't mean the kid would agree with what his/her mother did, and at the same time think that her own mother's a complete selfish piece of shit. All that of course if the kid even makes it to puberty.
@@dickottel So basically what you are saying is, parents should ruin and sacrifice their children's lives and happiness just for them to be more "accomplished"? Not even accomplished, somebody like her would've even regret her decision after 2 weeks or 2 days lol She literally called the baby "a stupid mistake". The girl was an addict, a loser and a selfish piece of crap. If this was real life, anyone with more than 2 braincells would take her kid away as soon as they find out about her drug abuse and mental state lol
Reminds me of a situation we were in with my friend-she was having a baby and decided to put her up for adoption and she’d selected a super awesome couple in their early 40’s that had been married for 15 years, were retired after selling their company to Microsoft, lived in a house on Puget Sound, traveled around the world, etc, then the father (a one night stand roided out ex-drug dealer from Reno) came out of the woodwork and decided to take custody of her “because being with her dad is the best thing for her.” Fucking hell, people and their emotions. Think of the CHILD!
This show has made me hate this girl, thirteen, and cameron Isn't ir like when you don't like a toy until tour friend plays with it then you take it back only to not want it and just neglect or give back just to restart the cycle
That should have been caught by the adoption agency. When the father has been told, they usually have him sign his rights away. To prevent this exact scenario.
The woman doesn’t have partner. Before it was required to be a couple that guaranteed that the kid is look after. Without a nanny or anyone at home to take care of the infant while she is working, what she is going to do? She works most of the time, it’s so random to her wanting a child like some source of pet. I respect single biological parents because they didn’t had a choice & do what they can but this case is different it was chosen. I’m with House in this one.
What a story to tell her daughter later on in life. " I wanted to save my self so I opted to potentially kill you. Then you didn't die so I changed my mind about the whole adoption thing."
@ SkoczMiNaPukiel you got that backwards. The adult’s life is nearly over while the fetus’s life has only just begun, not even! Thus the fetus is more important than the woman’s life, and you won’t find very many good mothers who disagree with me! “A person’s a person, no matter how small,” Horton the elephant, Dr Seuss’s “Horton Hears a Who.”
There are some moms with unexpected pregnancies or teen moms that think that having a baby means that they can have someone who finally loves them. But they have it wrong, the baby needs them, a parent to love them.
Children aren't there just to make you not feel like a loser. You have to think responsibly. I feel sorry for the kid having to be raised by someone who doesn't even care for them.
@@str_brst8979 Sure, but the punishment for hypocrisy can't be: "Haha you lost your baby forever." Also, 'hypocrite' seems a bit strong; she was a young, confused girl with an unplanned pregnancy and a traumatic past. She was filled with fear and loneliness, and surrounded by a culture that told her it's totally justifiable to want your baby gone (hell, based on tragic statistics at this temporary moment in history, most of the people ragging on her in these comments would presumably ra-ra her if she chose to literally have the child dismembered in abortion). So yes, she was temporarily willing to give up her yet-unseen baby in adoption to a woman she considered more competent than herself -- and yes, she even chose to deliver early to reduce a medical risk to her own life. But when her pregnancy ended and she actually saw her baby, she realized that motherhood isn't just some dry job description based on 'competence'; she realized that she WAS a mother already, and she wanted to love her own baby herself. This is a heart-wrenching episode depicting a situation difficult for everyone involved. We don't need to pretend one of the suffering people within it is some villain who 'deserved' to lose a baby.
So... keeping a baby to not feel like a loser anymore, being loved by someone else, and hoping it changes your life for the good? Well... great parenting there. How about what the baby needs to have a good quality of life, way beyond what that girl wants?
I think this girl's character was actually pretty well written, and you have to read between the lines. She DOESN'T say she wants the baby so the BABY will love her... with the pain and fear of pregnancy now past, and seeing her baby with her own eyes, she says she wants to grow up and become the loving mother she's supposed to be: it's about becoming more, herself, in becoming a caregiving person who GIVES love; it's not about what she wants to receive. And that sounds like the right choice, to me. 'Quality of life' can be an evil phrase (e.g. people use it to de-humanize disabled people and suggest aborting or euthanizing them, or here as you've used it, to justify forcible family separations according to someone else's beliefs), and it's a dangerous road, when we start saying "Who cares if a mother wants to love her own baby? 'Motherhood' and 'Fatherhood' aren't biological categories: they're cold, dry job descriptions and the state should get to rip babies from mothers' arms and assign them to whatever guardians have resumes the current state government likes best?" PS obviously I'm taking it to an extreme, haha, but you asked "How about..." so I'm taking it to the end of the road in answer to that question. That's where that line of reasoning goes, and it's not just at the extreme end of that road that it gets evil: evil is already there at the beginning. Unless a parent is abusing/neglecting their child, the right place for the child is with their own parents. Otherwise, most of our parents would be 'immoral' for not surrendering us to millionaire families, haha. Because there's always a "Grass is greener on the other side" out there.
@@overshottyler I wouldn't. People make stupid, selfish decisions all the time. A drug-addled mother might decide to keep her baby and that kid ends up being raised in a drug-riddled environment.
Look, I’m trying to sympathize with the woman and the tough choice she made, but I can’t. How can you get someone’s hopes up like that-to give them a CHILD, no less-just to break their fragile little hearts into a million little pieces? I don’t think that’s okay. You’ve gotta be 100% into this decision if you’re going to make it, no doubts, no regrets. This is why I’m adopted internationally. I wouldn’t want the birth mother to fight over my child.
Studies show that adoptees who don’t know their parents suffer lots of mental issues so have fun with that and the subsequent journey where they go to their original country in search of their birth family.
Ada Harrison I’m a birth parent in a semi open adoption for that exact reason. I’m involved in support groups for people in the adoption triangle (birth parent, adoptive parents, adoptee). Anyone in a closed adoption has not raves about how great it is and find it difficult and frustrating to not have access to their birth parent.
When my oldest son was born I was so focused on his first cry that right as I was about to ask why he wasn't crying he started crying, and I cried right along with him out of relief.
I think that was the quietest moment of my labor. Those few moments before my daughter started crying. And that is the best sound in the world. I wish I could replay it
@@erronblack308 I have epilepsy and am on Keppra and Lamictal. I was scared that I would have a miscarriage, that my baby would have heart defects, cleft lip or pallet, or be stillborn. I have also been told that babies not crying can be a bad sign and that babies are supposed to cry when they are born. That most babies cry when they are born.
@@erronblack308 my on had me do more ultrasounds than most patients including a 4d ultrasound specifically to check his heart and brain, and everything looked great so I was relieved on that part, and after making it to the 20 week mark I was no longer worried about a miscarriage. All that was left was waiting until the moment of birth to know for sure that something wasn’t going to go wrong and my baby would be stillborn. I have 5 kids and I have been worried about all of that with every single one of my babies, and although it isn’t as bad as it was with my first. I was outright terrified with my first.
This is one of the most heartbreaking scenes I've ever seen. I've been struggling with infertility for over 6 years, never been pregnant, probably never will be. 😟 *SIGH/CRYING* I sympathize with Cuddy, seeing her happiness ripped from her like that, my heart went out to her. 😢
She rather sacrafice the baby than her own life. Then she rather take the baby away from a better home. Fiction as it may be .. this fictional character is messed up
@Que Just because something is normal doesn't make it right, if it were normal to publicly execute people that'd be fine because it's "normal"? No because it's unjust, the Law and Justice well synonymous are not exactly the same, the Law are the policies in which people in our society must abide by, Justice is what is fair to everyone. Because babies and fetuses have the potential to be moral & rational agents, i.e sapient beings it is only fair they are afforded the rights of a moral & rational agent although they are unable to defend that right, because that is what is fair. Would you want your rights to be tread upon, the choice removed from you simply because you can't communicate to others? No, obviously not, and if you do you should see a psychiatrist , because it is not healthy to be fine with others taking freedom away from you. [Obviously using freedom to infringe upon the freedom of others is unfair, just to be clear]
@Que She wouldn't be sacrificing her life. Just taking normal blood transfusions as treatment until the babies lungs formed. But since that carried some risks she turned it down.
That just felt cruel and sadistic. Literally promise someone their LIFE'S DREAM, let them experience that dream, then just be like "well I saw it made you happy so now it's mine". I honestly can't think of anything more sadistic. I don't even want a baby but I can imagine in my core the agony Cuddy felt with that
Been awhile since I've seen this episode but didn't Cuddy offer to cover all expenses and this girl sought out and chose Cuddy the director of a hospital from all the other worthy couple's on the website. I don't think it was ever explored in the episode but what if it was just one big scam and the girl knew that there was something wrong she knew the director of a hospital who would be a single mother would probably be desperate enough to do anything to save the baby. She could potentially get free top of the line Health Care and then at the very end say "you know what I've change my mind" ... she's not a loser not at all she is a world-class deceptionist.
Once you deliver the baby your mind changes the perception about it. Legally I believe mothers have a period of a few days after deliver to finish the process and put the baby to adoption. The entity that was going to adopt it will be fucked, but can always find another one. The mother who gave birth however cannot give birth to another baby like that.
It's not that simple. Here in Chile the birth mother has 30 days to change her mind, because many do. How can anybody think it's easy to give up your child??? If she changes her mind, it's absolutely legitimate.
House even said rachel is a smart girl and clearly was loved a lot by cuddy to just be herself, that kid could have had that instead of a mother who was literally using before she found out she was pregnant, who called the baby a stupid mistake, who literally wanted to put her own life before hers and who knew she had no qualifications or stability to raise her..if that child is ever told the truth, it must be heartbreaking
Yeahhh kinda sad for the baby girl, almost has a stable life with a mother with a good job and that would've loved her so much to make Dr her priority. Instead, he got a emotionality unstable mom who was willing to throw her under the bus two seconds before being born. You can argue that she was scare or was manipulated, but that doesn't change that the mother is not ready, and is using the child as some kind of chance if being happy.
@@donatellohamato748 Exactly, bio Mom already put unreasonable expectations on her child to make HER happy when parenthood works the other way around...
I feel so bad for Cuddy in this episode. Becka or whatever her name is, is extremely selfish. only thinking about herself. she gave Cuddy false hope in a HUGE way and then she took it away from her, like if it was nothing. I bet she was gonna be happy for a little but and then would get tired of her baby and do probably more stupid mistakes and decisions
I feel it's less about the final choice but the jerk around she did with her child, from wanting to give it away to risking IT'S life to save her own, only to decide,''naw i want the baby" she was selfish and cruel
She is a product of her upbringing and society but you can see why she group a shitty life her mother did not have a dynamic mind to make the right choices at the right moments and she is the same
That's so messed up. You can't put that that amount of pressure on a child. What happens if you don't feel happy this baby what happens then? You can't pin your happiness on children like that.
It’s when they realize it’s part of them... they start to experience to experience the mother hood and it’s complicated... but ppl start to realize... but that’s why.. they realize..,
@@foolslayer9416 there are laws against doing that and you would probably be fired. I honestly dont want to live in a world were some else gets to decide who keeps the baby. This is one of those situations you need to take the bad with the good.
Ben mackarel Adoption doesn’t work that way, it’s not like a surrogacy agreement. Legally, the birth parents have every right to change their minds before turning the baby over to the adoptive parents. You cannot legally adopt a child that hasn’t been born yet, she belongs to her biological parents until they decide otherwise. No legal document in this case would mean anything, because the mother has every right to decide after the birth, that she doesn’t want to give her child away.
She did not care about the child before the OP, but wanted to take what made Cuddy so happy. At least they did not bound more, now here comes the question does she have to pay back all money she got for treatment etc? Like generally the company or adoptive pay for all child expenses?
From what I heard from a couple I know that adopted a baby, you are taking the chance that the mother might take back the child within the state regulated timeframe (48 hours in some states, 30 days in others, sometimes even 6 months). You get no compensation for any money the adoptive parents spent in the process.
Wait... So if House was successful in moving Cuddy out of the room then this scenario wouldn't have happened? Like the reason why the mom wanted the baby back was because of the "happiness" she saw in Cuddy's face. And the other bit of not wanting to be a loser~
House was trying to save Cuddy from one of two scenarios. Either A, the baby dies and it breaks Cuddy's heart, Or B. The Baby lives, mom takes back her decision to adopt and it breaks Cuddy's heart. In the words of Chase: "He needed an excuse or he could be accused of caring."
'I saw you make a woman SO HAPPY! And _I was hoping YOU could _*_make me that happy too_* So I took you back.' This reminds me of those girls that think having a baby is cute for the first year or two and then give them up to their (grand)parents/adoption to raise because it's not what they wanted.
I imagine House would've one day send an anonymous note to the child about what went down, that will totally destroy the child's relation with her mother. "Your mom was going to give you up, and when she was given the choice to risk her life or yours, she chose to kill you instead. Imagine what your life could've been with Dr. Cuddy." That will leave a permanent shadow on the child's relation with her, knowing that when in the darkest hour, her mother can't be relied on.
DeltroxTv you can also not realise how great something is till you have it. I don't know your full story, but if he raised you and stayed with you, he loves regardless of stupid actions he took when he was young. It's not like he just came back in to your life when you had success. He was there through everything and probably incredibly happy your mum didn't listen to him. Granted this is purely based on the snippet you gave, but if that's the only reason you cut him out, it might be worth reconnecting.
I’ll play devils advocate and say I can’t imagine what it must be like to give up your own baby. But I woulda made her sign legally binding contracts because I would be furious if someone got my hopes up and crushed them like that.
Unfortunately, a contract wouldn't be able to stop something like this from happening. States give the birth mom the right to change her mind to keep the child within a set time frame. The length of time that a birth mom is given varies from state to state ranging from 24 hours to a few weeks or even months. And if there's any hint that the birth mom was coerced into giving up the child, a judge can throw out the adoption. This type of adoption carries considerable risks, but itsn't the only way to adopt...
@@pettifoggingpharisee Depends on this coersion detail. If she signed a contract acc to state laws, without adoptees getting too invasive and it was all handled by the hospital staff only, and then changed the mind last min, the potential adoptees can sue her for it. They wasted their time for nothing when they could have adopted another kid in that time.
@@victoriakiser8224 Cause she didn't want her at first, she wanted abortion, then she wanted to give her away, then she risked her baby's life during surgery (she literally said that it was NOT her child and she didn't give a damn whether child lives or not), and then all out of sudden she changed her mind. That's not okay, that's fucked up.
@@justinenicole3926 I mean with her way of thinking she is never gonna put the kid first. She also (from what I remember) didnt have the means to take care of the kid which is why she was givin it up in the first place. Idc if its "her right" I'd rather not see a kid neglected
Out of curiosity, I would like to know if say -You spend all that money to adopt this baby. If the biological mother pulls out of the agreement, can you sue her for all the money you put out?
Usually not because the money that is paid to the mom is not for the baby but the care and upkeep of the mother during the pregnancy and administrative fees. Each state is different but most have strict laws on what adoptive parents can and cannot pay for. Usually the pay for customary expenses such as rent, utilities, food, transportation, legal counsel for the biological parent, sometimes a psychological evaluation for the parent, legal and administrative fees and sometimes medical bills if the mom cannot get Medicaid. Unless the prospective parents can prove fraud, the are usually out of the money if the mother changes her mind.
No. The only way you’d be in a position to do that, is if you can prove the birth mother willfully defrauded you, and never had any intention of giving you the baby in the first place. That would mean she accepted money and material things/services from you under false pretenses. But if she simply changed her mind before all was said and done, then anything you provided for her was considered to be an unconditional gift, and you can’t demand it back. You can’t contract to buy someone else’s child. Adoption is not like a surrogacy agreement whereby the child is the genetic offspring of at least one contractual parent, and they have the right to custody of their own child, irrespective of the contract, because what you are paying for is not the baby, as it is already yours, but rather paying the surrogate mother for the use of her body for nine months. In an adoption, the child belongs to its biological parents until they voluntarily sign their rights over to the adoptive parents, and the birth parents have every entitlement to change their minds at the last minute.
I know a couple who were ready to adopt a baby from a single young mother who said that she didn’t want her. The young lady changed her mind the day that they went to pick her up at the hospital. It’s heartbreaking.
“I don’t want to be a selfish loser so I I’m going to get your hopes up, make you go through a rollercoaster of emotions, and as soon as you’re happy I’m going to claim that happiness as my own” Top-notch writing cause I wanna punch that girl.
Every. Single. Episode. That is centered around Cuddy is just phenomenal, her actress is so amazing at her job and the way she is written is just so believable. It’s crazy how they can write such a strong, independent, and calculated woman, but ALSO have her on the opposite side of very emotion and affection depraved. It genuinely hurts to watch her shut down the way she does numerous times on the show
Wow, how much is her kid going to love hearing about the time her mom decided to possibly let her die, call her a stupid mistake, give her up for adoption, and then decide as soon as she saw a brief moment of happiness to be selfish again and put that child into a life with a mother who is not mature enough to handle parenting :). That kid gon be messed up xdd
She first made a decision selfishly which could’ve caused death to her baby. She then saw something in another woman and she wanted to know the feeling for herself so again selfishly, she went back on an agreement that already changed somebody’s outlook on life.
When i was around 7 years old, my cousin had a similar rash on her hand. My parents told me "This is what you get when you cry alot needlessly". Maybe they were trying to scare me from showing emotion or being a bothersome child, but i always thought the patterns of that rash were very cool, and wanted to have them on my hand aswell. So one day when i hurt myself and started crying, i kept on crying longer than usual in an exagerrated way in hopes of getting it aswell 😅
As an adopted person, this type of thing makes me so infuriated. You shouldn't be allowed to change your mind once the baby has been born. You need to live with your choices.
As a person who is adopted and born from Guatemala. I had a case closed adoption process where you can't know anything about your family or their names including medical history. My bio mom knew she couldn't raise me due to financial reasons and she had every opportunity to abort me but she knew she wanted a better life for me. So she gave me up for adoption and on the day of my birth they took me as soon as she gave birth and I know this sounds cruel but it is way for the birth mother not to interact with the child and have second thoughts because you have couples who are waiting for their child that they wanted so badly because those couples like my parents could not bear children. So after watching this made my blood boil like the blonde woman knew she what she getting into and then refer the baby that makes her feel like a loser. Like I saw my friend being happy and I want that too not because I love this child that I brought into this world all because my friend was happy so I took her happiness away from her. In that situation you can't just say sorry and this is going to go her way Cuddy has every right to be upset cause this is ridiculous and I've seen comments where the Blonde woman is a drug addic like no that child shouldn't anywhere near her.
:C she’s just a good doctor. This show truly reflects the nuances of a lifestyle that is medically compromised, as much as it is personally. Loved this show so much- I could learn something new about it every single day.
Yeah, I'm sure this wreck of a girl is going to provide a better life for this child than Cuddy. I can imagine that child screaming "Don't let her take me Doctor Mommy!" I know I would lol.
House knew there was a chance the girl would go back on her word after seeing Cuddy and the baby together. He wanted Cuddy out of the operating room for more than a couple reasons.
House may be an ass half the time but he still cares about people in his own way
@@rubyprice946 House always cares, he just lacks social mannerisms which allow the rest of us to put things in a more delicate manner. Plus he's a big fan of being blunt, unless you work for him
I was thinking he was afraid she'd see the baby die and be crushed
This isn't true at all but I guess however you want to interpret it
ruby price True 👍
“I’ve never seen someone so happy in my life, it was so beautiful...and because of that I will immediately be taking that happiness away from you.”
Worst part is she'll be measuring her success as a mother by how well it stands up to her feelings from that moment. She'll end up feeling like a loser and a failure anyway, and that's just a self fulfilling prophecy waiting to repeat itself in a new generation...
Why can't Cuddy just keep the kid anyway? They already made the agreement, the biological mom has no right to have the baby that she didn't want in the first place.
@@foolslayer9416 No, as it turned out, mothers have some period of time within which they can change their mind and nullify the agreement with adoptive parents legally thus keeping the child(((
@@gideonjones8088 Yes, exactly, she already put all her hopes into her child, which is wrong. Children should not be ''chances to change'' or anything, they should just be loved and cared for. But in this case she will put high expectations on her child and if she fails to meet them, she will resent her daughter and inevitably feel as a loser cause all her life now is in her child...
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 True. In expecting this child to really change her life, she'll probably end up teaching her daughter to see herself as a failure as well because she didn't give her mother some kind of happiness that no child can or should be expected to provide for someone else.
You could see Cuddy's heart just drop. THE ACTING HURTS.
She is one of the best TV actresses. House M.D. really sucked when she left
She was wonderful and I loved the episode 5 to 9. Great show I sorely miss it 😊
cuddy is like my favorite, it makes me so sad when she's sad. she's like the only character that impacted me.
LIFE IS PAIN!!!!!
@@THEPIELORD42 LIFE IN SPAIN!!
House isn't stupid. He was trying to get her out of that room because he knew what was going to happen.
Yeah, someone made that comment before you.
iNtErNeT pOiNtS¡!!¡1
@@taco8077 Yeah, but some of us have better things to do than troll the comments. 🤪
@@taco8077 You're the one thinking about internet points, using an unoriginal format, failing to understand that others just like to make conversation.
@@mr.anonymous5501 hmmm yes, big conversation we're having here, mate.
@@taco8077 You know, you're proving my point by trying to compare small talk to an important discussion in an attempt to subjugate it. You don't understand what's happening, although, you do seemingly understand petty confrontations. Like myself.
There is no way a doctor/hospital administrator would be allowed to interact this intimately with one of her patients whose baby she's planning to adopt. The sad punchline of the patient changing her mind is exactly why.
You are correct. The hospitals don't allow adoptee parents near the birth parents without specifiable reason or they interact well. The mom was swimming in pain killers, and just popped out a baby, Cuddy would not have gone into that room.
This..this is a tv drama. I'm pretty sure most of what happens in this show (just like other hospital dramas) wouldn't happen in real life or be allowed in a real hospital.
Stories are written within a context of what we recognize and find believable. If they completely ignored that we wouldn't be able to connect to anything. That's why there's a thing called suspension of disbelief. And this scene, in a show that usually dances around it acceptably enough, shatters it.
@@lundylow I think only a few people who are looking at this point a little too deep for a tv drama would kind of care about all of this. 95% of this show is pretty much "unbelievable", but people love it anyway for the drama and the comedy. Believability would be more of a factor in a reality show than a tv drama, unless you're a doctor or a nurse who think most people know the ins and outs of hospitals and all the rules they run on.
@@android17lover also lets not forget that the people who make these decisions of not interacting with personal patients are the administrators......who is the person involved in this particular case, where every doctor seems to like her and wouldnt report her anyway, and there's no reason really she shouldnt be able to do this with all the power she has. basically we'd just be acknowledging the fact that doctors can also abuse their power in high positions too.
Yknow when you were a kid and you got bored of a toy till your friend started playing with it? Yeah
Good point
Well, bring a baby into this world and we'll see if you'll consider him just as a "toy". Cuddy is right about hormons - those hormons make a mom love her baby. I'm glad the mom found force to claim her baby back. I just can't stand this adopting system with baby farming
@@annaheart7731 it's an analogy 🙃
Anna Heart it wasn’t baby farming. She got pregnant through carelessness and then told a woman she could have a child. She allowed her to love the child and have hope, only to snatch it away at the last minute because she got jealous over the thing she was more than happy to let die to save her own neck a few hours before. I don’t know how you can be happy about that, it’s pretty fucked up.
@@annaheart7731 do you realize how many children are in the system, created but not wanted, or abused and neglected, and how many people have fertility issues or no partners but could give these children a good home? "Baby farming" isn't the problem irresponsible breeding practice is.
Back in the day when my parents adopted my brother and I; the birth mother had a full year to change her mind. My parents said it was the longest most painful wait of their lives. To know that for a year you have loved and cared for a child that could be taken away at any moment and legally you have no rights. Heartbreaking.
A YEAR!! like a month max. No way the bm should get a whole year to decide "mmmm do I want the baby?? Do I not want the baby??" The whole pregnancy plus the extra year is not ok
I like The fact that you call them “ your parents “. They must’ve done a good job raising you two
My coworker adopted a child and the birth mother had 2 weeks (or 2 months?? I can't remember, argh) to change her mind after he received the baby. I thought that was shocking, that you could adopt a baby and have it taken away. But one year!! omg, what a fright the deadline must have been as it approached
@@kjones3748 well it depends for example my son was taken away from me because I I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant and I was using and he was placed with foster parents who were planning to adopt him but the court were trying to give me every chance to get my s*** together which took about a year. Needless to say I gave up because I knew that they could give him a better life than I ever could because i was homeless and still dealing with my addiction.. And it's the best decision I've ever made they call us all the time I still get a keep contact with him. His parenta have become my family as well. I got my life together I had a daughter and they get to talk to each other and its just wonderful.
@@kimberlyshryack that's a different situation tho cuz cuddy was already going to adopt her not foster then adopt if I'm correct. And I glad you got better and you have a daughter now❤
7 months clean, 8 months pregnant. CPS would be on her case and odds are she would go back to drugs after dealing with a newborn for a couple months on her own
Especially when they hear the lungs were 10 weeks behind what they needed to be due to the drug use and drugs still in the mother's blood stream
Don't usually realize you're pregnant until after 6 weeks
its impossible to know youre pregnant the first few weeks, if she had no idea then its not her fault. the baby was a tiny ball of a few cells and she had no idea the first month. onelate period and suddenly she may have realised
It's not impossible I new with in days after my period didn't come that meant I was a few weeks along.
@@amberlylucas163 ok so if everyones not like you, they should go to jail??
It’s so cruel to do that to a person. She even said before that it wasn’t her baby and she didn’t wanted to make another sacrifice for her. If you are going to change your mind at least do it before the other family meets the baby.
It happens alot sadly
Dude, she literally delivered her. I get what you are saying but being pregnant, and seeing the kid after she is delivered are two totally different things.
@@henrypeters5291 I remember sitting in front of the screen going, "Don't show her the baby, dont show her the baby, don't show her the ba- Goddamnit!!!" I wish Cuddy could keep Joy anyway. Stupid kid, she did all that work delivering a kid, 10 weeks early then goes, "I want the kid that I said wasn't mine 10 minutes ago!" Idiot.
@@henrypeters5291 Shes young and dumb and doesnt have the resources to take care of that child. Soo your point? I dont care if she got knocked up and birthed it she still shouldnt be able to keep it. Also she was going to choose to kill it at one point
Henry Peters i get your point too but thats why many mothers decide to not see the baby. The risk of changing your mind is too high and if she already knew she wasn’t capable to give her child the life she wanted for her, she should have sticked to it. The reality is that she isn’t stable and that will most likely repercute on her daughter’s life.
This was one of the most heart wrenching moments in the show.
She gets her baby a few episodes later so its not all bad.
@Victor Hinojos very true. House was also a dick in this episode towards cuddy. She deserved better.
@Nah mate what?
Yeah someone did something similar to me, it’s cruel
Suddenly, the hospital doesn’t take her insurance!
Ha
Cuddy isn't that petty.
You assume she had insurance!
🤣😂😂😂
@@lizh804 High probability she didn't since Cuddy was likely paying for all of this.
You can't get a person's hope up and crushed it like that. That's cruel
That's what happened with mariska hargitay and hubby peter herrmann they wanted to adopt but at the last moment the person changed her mind
That’s life.
She is mother she has all rights to do it. She was manipulated. There are plenty Of people who does better than their parents. Cuddy still manipulates her. There are plenty babies in Orphanage. Sick ones for ex. But ofc newborn is a treat.
@Mtpimenta i've never been in severe pain but I believe a painful life is better than no life at all. He may suffer but at least he's alive. You get to be alive only once after all. Then again that's just my opinion , if he suffers too much ending it may be the way to go. I guess it depends on how severe the pain is. If its so painful that you barely stay conscious then maybe death will be better. But then if you think about it you have eternity to not feel anything so staying alive might be better even if it's pain.
Oh ok thanks, I was just about to do that, but now I know better.
“It’s not like I’m ever gonna ask you to baby sit”
Rachel: Oooo nickels and dimes
É rachel?
No, this baby is Joy@@nancyferreiramartins5114
@@nancyferreiramartins5114 não, outro bebê
That girl infuriates me. She literally called her baby "a stupid mistake" and wasn't willing to wait a week to deliver the baby to give her child a better chance of survival. Then, when she sees Cuddy (who genuinely cared about the baby), she suddenly decides that she also wants the baby again? She's indecisive at best, just flat out incapable of sensible decision at worst. That baby is gonna suffer with a mother like that.
Also did it never occur to her that she could make anouther baby? Like girl everything seems to working wait a couple months to heal and find you a good enough looking/good guy in generally.
Some times when you see people who have something you can't have it makes you angry and you retaliate. This is what she did
My mom thought I was a stupid mistake when she got knocked up? But she kept me
That’s the irony of it all. She was afraid of being a loser of a mom and that’s exactly where her mindset is going to lead her in the future with the daughter. I was absolutely shattered when she took back the baby.
"That girl" is the baby's mother. Full stop. Yes, she was young and confused; and in her youth and confusion and the cold difficulties of unplanned pregnancy without a loving husband, she was frightened at the prospect of having a baby -- until she actually saw her baby, and saw the face of love. And realized that she wanted to be a loving mother instead of abandon her baby. And the raw truth is, this was still her baby. Yes, Cuddy's emotions were traumatized by having that hope offered and then withdrawn -- but the biological mother's emotions would have been traumatized too, if she had left her baby in another woman's arms even after realizing she wanted to love and mother her own child herself. And whereas Cuddy can adopt another baby (and ultimately did), this girl would always have known that her own biological baby, her own flesh and blood, was forever lost to her.
She was jealous of Cuddy's happiness in that one moment. She wanted to experience that same happiness that's why she wanted the baby. It wasn't because she felt sorry, she was just being selfish again. After all that speech about not wanting to give that happiness away, it was a momentary thing at best.
Some people are just human trainwrecks by default. Even on a one-way street, they can't help but swerve sideways.
Exactly, that was pure selfishness, she expected a BABY to magically change her life and personality and fix all her problems thus already placing a burden on a child and paving way to future resentment...
This happened to my mom, except she was a baby. Birth mother gave her up due to personal circumstances at home, 3 months later decided they wanted my mom and took her from her adoptive parents.
after a whole three months???
Freya Mulhall yeah, birth moms have quite a bit of time just Incase they change their minds.
I thought they were only allowed up to thirty days to change their mind
Where was this where 3 months is permissible to annul the adoption?
Ada Harrison In NC its 7 days, but at ANY time after that, a mother can get a lawyer and get a baby/kid back by claiming she wasn't in her right mind or was pressured to signing the child over.
Say for instance the mother was a drug user when she gave the baby up for adoption, months later she gets out of rehab and wants the baby back, she can claim she wasn't thinking straight when she made that decision and more than likely get the baby back, months or a year or two after the kids already been adopted. I've seen it happen.
When my daughter was born she didn't cry for 10 seconds after she was born. Longest 10 seconds of my life. 😣
Cuddy should have never been involved in the case. She’s too personally involved
I know
Except she's not... Psssssst it's not real
Lol yeah blame her for being a human being and having emotions
she was the only person (besides house if he looked at her) who thought something else was causing the rash and she was right
@@anushkatroian2838 Yeah she did what house would have done only she did it for a different reason. But it wasn't unjustified, she thought that the baby was gonna be hers therefor making sure the mother is healthy is in her best interests. And funnily in her doing that she's being a better mother than the woman will ever be.
Cuddy: it not like I'm ever going to ask you to babysit.
But she does let house babysit
Then House and Wilson let the little child eat some change
It was another kid, so the statement holds
*_"its not like I'm ever gonna have you babysit"_*
But then he does it, greatest baby sitter 😍😂
Having just come from a clip where she asked him to babysit, I was looking for this comment.
@@dengueberries she took the coin and ate it, that's not feeding. That's like if there was bleach under the sink and someone drank it and we called THAT feeding. Ridiculous.
Your telling me to do the right thing while climbing out the window
@@miadestroyerofworlds5735 what
The patient even let her be the first to hold the baby that she thought was hers, the pain Cuddy must have gone though when the girl said she changed her mind and was going to keep it, must have been absolutely heart-wrenching!
"When I saw you hold her, and the look on your face... It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen...... And that's when I realized... That I can't."
Man, that was probably the cruelest way of wording your decision. "Wow, dude, you and that baby sure looked happy! It was amazing I'm so happy for you! But it's my baby now so I'm sorry."
This is one of the saddest moments of the entire show. Lisa conveys Cuddy's heartbreak so well that it causes physical pain to see her agony. Tragedy done beautifully.
It was one of the most shining moments that Lisa edelstein portrayed on the show
“I’m a prior drug addict with nothing going for me who wanted to not only give up this baby but kill it in favor for my own life, but seeing how happy and complete you looked, someone who wanted the baby more than ever and is a million times more fit to be a parent than me, made me want to feel that way. Give me my kid back” god I’ve never wanted to punch a fictional character so badly
Me too
Thank you for this, i was honestly a little confused with the Tension here and the ending scene XD
Why not kill? lol seems like a better outcome
Can you imagine after she changes her mind, Cuddy’s like “Yeah, you are a loser”? 😂
@@biencj OMG Yes! Cuddy should have come down on her with the verbal wrath that we know she's capable of. She knew enough about this girl to mentally poke her apart without raising her voice. I even think House would have jumped in if Cuddy had asked nicely. This crappy mother would be too distraught after that to do anything.
Gonna be real awkward when the kid finds out its mother's first two actions were to put it up for adoption and then put her own life before its own.
Difficult thanksgiving that one
The kid would understand.
@@annaheart7731 Not really, he/she WOULD understand the situation but that doesn't mean the kid would agree with what his/her mother did, and at the same time think that her own mother's a complete selfish piece of shit.
All that of course if the kid even makes it to puberty.
you should put your own life before someone else, especially if this someone else is a fetus
@@dickottel So basically what you are saying is, parents should ruin and sacrifice their children's lives and happiness just for them to be more "accomplished"? Not even accomplished, somebody like her would've even regret her decision after 2 weeks or 2 days lol
She literally called the baby "a stupid mistake".
The girl was an addict, a loser and a selfish piece of crap. If this was real life, anyone with more than 2 braincells would take her kid away as soon as they find out about her drug abuse and mental state lol
Adoption And abortion all in one pretty little fucked up package.
Reminds me of a situation we were in with my friend-she was having a baby and decided to put her up for adoption and she’d selected a super awesome couple in their early 40’s that had been married for 15 years, were retired after selling their company to Microsoft, lived in a house on Puget Sound, traveled around the world, etc, then the father (a one night stand roided out ex-drug dealer from Reno) came out of the woodwork and decided to take custody of her “because being with her dad is the best thing for her.” Fucking hell, people and their emotions. Think of the CHILD!
This show has made me hate this girl, thirteen, and cameron
Isn't ir like when you don't like a toy until tour friend plays with it then you take it back only to not want it and just neglect or give back just to restart the cycle
@EDUARDO HERNANDEZ-MEDINA they get too attached ot their patients and ends up hurting them
Biological Fathers should not have custody of their "mistake" kids. Never.
That should have been caught by the adoption agency. When the father has been told, they usually have him sign his rights away. To prevent this exact scenario.
The woman doesn’t have partner. Before it was required to be a couple that guaranteed that the kid is look after. Without a nanny or anyone at home to take care of the infant while she is working, what she is going to do? She works most of the time, it’s so random to her wanting a child like some source of pet. I respect single biological parents because they didn’t had a choice & do what they can but this case is different it was chosen.
I’m with House in this one.
What a story to tell her daughter later on in life. " I wanted to save my self so I opted to potentially kill you. Then you didn't die so I changed my mind about the whole adoption thing."
an adult woman's life is more worth saving than a fetus, the child should understand. fetus is like nothing, had zero experience, her life has a value
@ SkoczMiNaPukiel you got that backwards. The adult’s life is nearly over while the fetus’s life has only just begun, not even! Thus the fetus is more important than the woman’s life, and you won’t find very many good mothers who disagree with me!
“A person’s a person, no matter how small,” Horton the elephant, Dr Seuss’s “Horton Hears a Who.”
@@willnack5315 you sound ignorant
@@willnack5315 Ironic lol Dr. Seuss was very much pro choice.
yeah.. then you didn't die and I changed my mind.. not when I saw you, but when I saw Cuddy's face...
you're lucky I didn't name you "stupid mistake"
There are some moms with unexpected pregnancies or teen moms that think that having a baby means that they can have someone who finally loves them. But they have it wrong, the baby needs them, a parent to love them.
Children aren't there just to make you not feel like a loser. You have to think responsibly. I feel sorry for the kid having to be raised by someone who doesn't even care for them.
Funny how just hours ago she wanted that baby gone.
I'm sure the kid would love to hear that story when they're older
I'm pretty sure many moms who didn't want the child change their mind when they give birth and see their baby.
@@kristin123a that doesn't change the fact that she's a hypocrite
@@str_brst8979 There's no logic when it comes to hormones and getting a new born child that has been growing in your tummy for several months.
@@str_brst8979 Sure, but the punishment for hypocrisy can't be: "Haha you lost your baby forever." Also, 'hypocrite' seems a bit strong; she was a young, confused girl with an unplanned pregnancy and a traumatic past. She was filled with fear and loneliness, and surrounded by a culture that told her it's totally justifiable to want your baby gone (hell, based on tragic statistics at this temporary moment in history, most of the people ragging on her in these comments would presumably ra-ra her if she chose to literally have the child dismembered in abortion). So yes, she was temporarily willing to give up her yet-unseen baby in adoption to a woman she considered more competent than herself -- and yes, she even chose to deliver early to reduce a medical risk to her own life. But when her pregnancy ended and she actually saw her baby, she realized that motherhood isn't just some dry job description based on 'competence'; she realized that she WAS a mother already, and she wanted to love her own baby herself.
This is a heart-wrenching episode depicting a situation difficult for everyone involved. We don't need to pretend one of the suffering people within it is some villain who 'deserved' to lose a baby.
I feel odd for thinking that when the baby came out it looked like a mandrake
Except it didn't scream!
@@MizBryteEyez or make the doctors pass out
So... keeping a baby to not feel like a loser anymore, being loved by someone else, and hoping it changes your life for the good? Well... great parenting there. How about what the baby needs to have a good quality of life, way beyond what that girl wants?
Exactly. Girl is just selfish and has wrong motivation for keeping the baby. Baby already has high expectations on her shoulders...
So who decides what is best for the baby cause I'd rather the mother decide then the state.
I think this girl's character was actually pretty well written, and you have to read between the lines. She DOESN'T say she wants the baby so the BABY will love her... with the pain and fear of pregnancy now past, and seeing her baby with her own eyes, she says she wants to grow up and become the loving mother she's supposed to be: it's about becoming more, herself, in becoming a caregiving person who GIVES love; it's not about what she wants to receive. And that sounds like the right choice, to me. 'Quality of life' can be an evil phrase (e.g. people use it to de-humanize disabled people and suggest aborting or euthanizing them, or here as you've used it, to justify forcible family separations according to someone else's beliefs), and it's a dangerous road, when we start saying "Who cares if a mother wants to love her own baby? 'Motherhood' and 'Fatherhood' aren't biological categories: they're cold, dry job descriptions and the state should get to rip babies from mothers' arms and assign them to whatever guardians have resumes the current state government likes best?"
PS obviously I'm taking it to an extreme, haha, but you asked "How about..." so I'm taking it to the end of the road in answer to that question. That's where that line of reasoning goes, and it's not just at the extreme end of that road that it gets evil: evil is already there at the beginning. Unless a parent is abusing/neglecting their child, the right place for the child is with their own parents. Otherwise, most of our parents would be 'immoral' for not surrendering us to millionaire families, haha. Because there's always a "Grass is greener on the other side" out there.
@@overshottyler I wouldn't. People make stupid, selfish decisions all the time. A drug-addled mother might decide to keep her baby and that kid ends up being raised in a drug-riddled environment.
@@wd3185 no if a mother was a drug addict child protective services would take them away. Try again.
Bekka: “My whole life has been filled with pain and anger and disappointment. I can’t let that god away.”
Equivalent to House insulting Cuddy
Jeez..
Got it
Look, I’m trying to sympathize with the woman and the tough choice she made, but I can’t. How can you get someone’s hopes up like that-to give them a CHILD, no less-just to break their fragile little hearts into a million little pieces? I don’t think that’s okay. You’ve gotta be 100% into this decision if you’re going to make it, no doubts, no regrets. This is why I’m adopted internationally. I wouldn’t want the birth mother to fight over my child.
Studies show that adoptees who don’t know their parents suffer lots of mental issues so have fun with that and the subsequent journey where they go to their original country in search of their birth family.
Ultimately the person that made that decision was a stupid child. It's not a surprising outcome.
@@livelongandprospermary8796 this isn't TV, that doesn't happen as often as you think it does or in the same way.
Ada Harrison I’m a birth parent in a semi open adoption for that exact reason. I’m involved in support groups for people in the adoption triangle (birth parent, adoptive parents, adoptee). Anyone in a closed adoption has not raves about how great it is and find it difficult and frustrating to not have access to their birth parent.
@@adaharrisonn my birth parents almost got me back. But I was taken away, not given away so maybe it’s different.
You can literally see her heart drop. I felt so bad..
When my oldest son was born I was so focused on his first cry that right as I was about to ask why he wasn't crying he started crying, and I cried right along with him out of relief.
I think that was the quietest moment of my labor. Those few moments before my daughter started crying. And that is the best sound in the world. I wish I could replay it
when i was born i didnt cry either
That’s weird that you think the baby has to cry. I didn’t.
@@erronblack308 I have epilepsy and am on Keppra and Lamictal. I was scared that I would have a miscarriage, that my baby would have heart defects, cleft lip or pallet, or be stillborn. I have also been told that babies not crying can be a bad sign and that babies are supposed to cry when they are born. That most babies cry when they are born.
@@erronblack308 my on had me do more ultrasounds than most patients including a 4d ultrasound specifically to check his heart and brain, and everything looked great so I was relieved on that part, and after making it to the 20 week mark I was no longer worried about a miscarriage. All that was left was waiting until the moment of birth to know for sure that something wasn’t going to go wrong and my baby would be stillborn. I have 5 kids and I have been worried about all of that with every single one of my babies, and although it isn’t as bad as it was with my first. I was outright terrified with my first.
This is one of the most heartbreaking scenes I've ever seen. I've been struggling with infertility for over 6 years, never been pregnant, probably never will be. 😟 *SIGH/CRYING* I sympathize with Cuddy, seeing her happiness ripped from her like that, my heart went out to her. 😢
She rather sacrafice the baby than her own life. Then she rather take the baby away from a better home. Fiction as it may be
.. this fictional character is messed up
Sadly, this happens every day. Just google it. You will either cry or want to throw the mom through the wall....
Fiction or not this stuff happens in the real world because there are no laws in place to protect an adoptive parent or family from this situation.
@Que Just because something is normal doesn't make it right, if it were normal to publicly execute people that'd be fine because it's "normal"? No because it's unjust, the Law and Justice well synonymous are not exactly the same, the Law are the policies in which people in our society must abide by, Justice is what is fair to everyone. Because babies and fetuses have the potential to be moral & rational agents, i.e sapient beings it is only fair they are afforded the rights of a moral & rational agent although they are unable to defend that right, because that is what is fair.
Would you want your rights to be tread upon, the choice removed from you simply because you can't communicate to others? No, obviously not, and if you do you should see a psychiatrist , because it is not healthy to be fine with others taking freedom away from you. [Obviously using freedom to infringe upon the freedom of others is unfair, just to be clear]
@Que She wouldn't be sacrificing her life. Just taking normal blood transfusions as treatment until the babies lungs formed. But since that carried some risks she turned it down.
@Clary Hustles can surrogates even do that?? wtf its not even their kid
That just felt cruel and sadistic. Literally promise someone their LIFE'S DREAM, let them experience that dream, then just be like "well I saw it made you happy so now it's mine". I honestly can't think of anything more sadistic. I don't even want a baby but I can imagine in my core the agony Cuddy felt with that
‘I saw you have a moment of true happiness. I decided I’m going to take it away from you, so I can have it instead.’
House showing a heart and being a friend. He knew the baby could die and her seeing that would be awful. He also realized this could happen
Been awhile since I've seen this episode but didn't Cuddy offer to cover all expenses and this girl sought out and chose Cuddy the director of a hospital from all the other worthy couple's on the website. I don't think it was ever explored in the episode but what if it was just one big scam and the girl knew that there was something wrong she knew the director of a hospital who would be a single mother would probably be desperate enough to do anything to save the baby. She could potentially get free top of the line Health Care and then at the very end say "you know what I've change my mind" ... she's not a loser not at all she is a world-class deceptionist.
Cuddy: "Its not like I am EVER gonna ask you to babysit."
Me: Little do you know.
dude, if you give up your child for adoption , dont change your mind later XD
She could have at least made it an open adoption, instead of taking the baby back.
it really isn’t that easy.
Once you deliver the baby your mind changes the perception about it. Legally I believe mothers have a period of a few days after deliver to finish the process and put the baby to adoption. The entity that was going to adopt it will be fucked, but can always find another one. The mother who gave birth however cannot give birth to another baby like that.
It's not that simple. Here in Chile the birth mother has 30 days to change her mind, because many do. How can anybody think it's easy to give up your child??? If she changes her mind, it's absolutely legitimate.
@@visceras7979 it's several months actually
That baby girl lost a chance at having a good life. Now, she’ll grow up to be just like her mom. That’s what’s truly heartbreaking here
House even said rachel is a smart girl and clearly was loved a lot by cuddy to just be herself, that kid could have had that instead of a mother who was literally using before she found out she was pregnant, who called the baby a stupid mistake, who literally wanted to put her own life before hers and who knew she had no qualifications or stability to raise her..if that child is ever told the truth, it must be heartbreaking
Yeahhh kinda sad for the baby girl, almost has a stable life with a mother with a good job and that would've loved her so much to make Dr her priority. Instead, he got a emotionality unstable mom who was willing to throw her under the bus two seconds before being born. You can argue that she was scare or was manipulated, but that doesn't change that the mother is not ready, and is using the child as some kind of chance if being happy.
@@donatellohamato748 Exactly, bio Mom already put unreasonable expectations on her child to make HER happy when parenthood works the other way around...
Poor Cuddy :( I felt so bad for her 😭
When Cuddy is painting the room she’s just so filled with joy. And it’s so beautiful to see
I feel so bad for Cuddy in this episode. Becka or whatever her name is, is extremely selfish. only thinking about herself. she gave Cuddy false hope in a HUGE way and then she took it away from her, like if it was nothing. I bet she was gonna be happy for a little but and then would get tired of her baby and do probably more stupid mistakes and decisions
By taking her baby back, she was a loser, and cemented herself to repeat the actions of her mother.
But hey! I hope she has a good trailer truck life!
I feel it's less about the final choice but the jerk around she did with her child, from wanting to give it away to risking IT'S life to save her own, only to decide,''naw i want the baby" she was selfish and cruel
@@guyver5er412 100% this.
everything can change in life, simply everything!
She is a product of her upbringing and society but you can see why she group a shitty life her mother did not have a dynamic mind to make the right choices at the right moments and she is the same
@@guyver5er412 Dude, I think I've seen a couple of episodes from that anime. Thx for reminding me it exists
"It's not like I'm ever gonna ask you to babysit,"
Welp that didn't age well
The actress that played the pregnant girl absolutely nailed this, incredible.
That's so messed up. You can't put that that amount of pressure on a child. What happens if you don't feel happy this baby what happens then?
You can't pin your happiness on children like that.
How is she gonna call the baby a mistake and then all of a sudden want it tf?
Happens more often than people realize unfortunately.
It’s when they realize it’s part of them... they start to experience to experience the mother hood and it’s complicated... but ppl start to realize... but that’s why.. they realize..,
Hormones.
Some say Becca went on to flip flop on every decision for the rest of her life...
I'd rather just let Cuddy keep the baby anyway if I were overseeing the adoption program. Stupid girl.
@@foolslayer9416 there are laws against doing that and you would probably be fired. I honestly dont want to live in a world were some else gets to decide who keeps the baby. This is one of those situations you need to take the bad with the good.
She's probably back together with that loser Tony, who still abuses her.
I wish Cuddy could just keep the baby anyway.
Cut baby in half, says King Solomon.
Fool Slayer if she got a legal document of custody drawn up before she could have
Ben mackarel Adoption doesn’t work that way, it’s not like a surrogacy agreement.
Legally, the birth parents have every right to change their minds before turning the baby over to the adoptive parents.
You cannot legally adopt a child that hasn’t been born yet, she belongs to her biological parents until they decide otherwise.
No legal document in this case would mean anything, because the mother has every right to decide after the birth, that she doesn’t want to give her child away.
She did not care about the child before the OP, but wanted to take what made Cuddy so happy. At least they did not bound more, now here comes the question does she have to pay back all money she got for treatment etc? Like generally the company or adoptive pay for all child expenses?
From what I heard from a couple I know that adopted a baby, you are taking the chance that the mother might take back the child within the state regulated timeframe (48 hours in some states, 30 days in others, sometimes even 6 months). You get no compensation for any money the adoptive parents spent in the process.
Rachel Alice are you actually serious?
Rachel Alice she might have the legal right but she’s kinda fucked up for doing it tbh
I hope this channel won't stop uploading more videos
They have 8 seasons worth of clips
Agreed but they’re going to run out eventually
Poor Cuddy. That ripped her poor heart out.
Wait... So if House was successful in moving Cuddy out of the room then this scenario wouldn't have happened?
Like the reason why the mom wanted the baby back was because of the "happiness" she saw in Cuddy's face. And the other bit of not wanting to be a loser~
House was trying to save Cuddy from one of two scenarios. Either A, the baby dies and it breaks Cuddy's heart,
Or B. The Baby lives, mom takes back her decision to adopt and it breaks Cuddy's heart.
In the words of Chase: "He needed an excuse or he could be accused of caring."
Well... it not lupus.
It's never lupus.
@@Mic_Glow until it is
Give the mom lupus!
No, it had ligma. Bekka, I mean
“It’s not like I’m ever gonna make you babysit”
Little did house know...
"Its not like I'm ever gonna ask you to babysit!"
Foreshadowing
You have a chance to do something great for this baby!!!
*smiling*.... NO
'I saw you make a woman SO HAPPY! And _I was hoping YOU could _*_make me that happy too_* So I took you back.'
This reminds me of those girls that think having a baby is cute for the first year or two and then give them up to their (grand)parents/adoption to raise because it's not what they wanted.
Absolutely. She doesn't really love the girl
I imagine House would've one day send an anonymous note to the child about what went down, that will totally destroy the child's relation with her mother.
"Your mom was going to give you up, and when she was given the choice to risk her life or yours, she chose to kill you instead. Imagine what your life could've been with Dr. Cuddy." That will leave a permanent shadow on the child's relation with her, knowing that when in the darkest hour, her mother can't be relied on.
nah, House is an asshole but eeven he is not that sadistic, he may do something to the mother, but he wouldn't do anything to the baby
This is dark... Such things better left secret...
@@fairystail1 Unless he runs into the mother and she says something mildly stupid
@@fairystail1 You underestimate how brutal house can be.
DeltroxTv you can also not realise how great something is till you have it. I don't know your full story, but if he raised you and stayed with you, he loves regardless of stupid actions he took when he was young. It's not like he just came back in to your life when you had success. He was there through everything and probably incredibly happy your mum didn't listen to him. Granted this is purely based on the snippet you gave, but if that's the only reason you cut him out, it might be worth reconnecting.
Even her acting made my heart drop. So emotional.
This is my mother. My mother did this and she was wrong for it. I would have done much better with a loving family and my "mom" is still alone now.
I want my baby back, baby back,
baby back,
CHILE'S ...
+( BABY BACK RIBS).
Barbecue sauce...😎
r/hailcorporate
TED!
Random question does andbody turn the pillow for the cold side?
No.... Who tf does that...
Weirdo.
I do, 100%. It’s one of the best experiences you can get for free.
Yeah, I do
So I can feel the cold, yeah.
Szh1tzSkreak yes always
That amazing person you broke up with/ ghosted till they’ve started dating someone else and then you remembered how much you love’ em!
Should’ve said no givsies backsies
I’ll play devils advocate and say I can’t imagine what it must be like to give up your own baby. But I woulda made her sign legally binding contracts because I would be furious if someone got my hopes up and crushed them like that.
Unfortunately, a contract wouldn't be able to stop something like this from happening. States give the birth mom the right to change her mind to keep the child within a set time frame. The length of time that a birth mom is given varies from state to state ranging from 24 hours to a few weeks or even months.
And if there's any hint that the birth mom was coerced into giving up the child, a judge can throw out the adoption. This type of adoption carries considerable risks, but itsn't the only way to adopt...
@@pettifoggingpharisee Depends on this coersion detail. If she signed a contract acc to state laws, without adoptees getting too invasive and it was all handled by the hospital staff only, and then changed the mind last min, the potential adoptees can sue her for it. They wasted their time for nothing when they could have adopted another kid in that time.
And that is why a lot of people don't consider adoption. There's always a chance a crazy mom will suddenly want it back once she gets off drugs.
Becka litterally just changed her mind like that how you gonna give away a baby then after want it back like that's not okay.
How is that not ok? It's literally her own child.
@@victoriakiser8224 Cause she didn't want her at first, she wanted abortion, then she wanted to give her away, then she risked her baby's life during surgery (she literally said that it was NOT her child and she didn't give a damn whether child lives or not), and then all out of sudden she changed her mind. That's not okay, that's fucked up.
It happens all of the time and she had the right.
Eugeniya Leshenko true. But this example was more on the extreme side and she didn't exactly seem like a fit mum.
@@justinenicole3926 I mean with her way of thinking she is never gonna put the kid first. She also (from what I remember) didnt have the means to take care of the kid which is why she was givin it up in the first place. Idc if its "her right" I'd rather not see a kid neglected
Out of curiosity, I would like to know if say -You spend all that money to adopt this baby. If the biological mother pulls out of the agreement, can you sue her for all the money you put out?
I was thinking the same thing...?
Usually not because the money that is paid to the mom is not for the baby but the care and upkeep of the mother during the pregnancy and administrative fees. Each state is different but most have strict laws on what adoptive parents can and cannot pay for. Usually the pay for customary expenses such as rent, utilities, food, transportation, legal counsel for the biological parent, sometimes a psychological evaluation for the parent, legal and administrative fees and sometimes medical bills if the mom cannot get Medicaid. Unless the prospective parents can prove fraud, the are usually out of the money if the mother changes her mind.
No. The only way you’d be in a position to do that, is if you can prove the birth mother willfully defrauded you, and never had any intention of giving you the baby in the first place.
That would mean she accepted money and material things/services from you under false pretenses.
But if she simply changed her mind before all was said and done, then anything you provided for her was considered to be an unconditional gift, and you can’t demand it back.
You can’t contract to buy someone else’s child.
Adoption is not like a surrogacy agreement whereby the child is the genetic offspring of at least one contractual parent, and they have the right to custody of their own child, irrespective of the contract, because what you are paying for is not the baby, as it is already yours, but rather paying the surrogate mother for the use of her body for nine months.
In an adoption, the child belongs to its biological parents until they voluntarily sign their rights over to the adoptive parents, and the birth parents have every entitlement to change their minds at the last minute.
I know a couple who were ready to adopt a baby from a single young mother who said that she didn’t want her. The young lady changed her mind the day that they went to pick her up at the hospital. It’s heartbreaking.
as soon as she saw cuddy and the baby, she changed her mind. house knew exactly what he was saying.
“Baby barf. Maternity ward was handing out free samples” 😂😂😂
“I don’t want to be a selfish loser so I I’m going to get your hopes up, make you go through a rollercoaster of emotions, and as soon as you’re happy I’m going to claim that happiness as my own”
Top-notch writing cause I wanna punch that girl.
House knows just what to say to be the biggest prick:
"Mommy's gotta go to work" LOLOLOL best character ever
“It’s not like I’m ever gonna ask you to babysit.”
Oops.
House was right. Cuddy had a job to do and she was refusing to do it for personal reasons.
Every. Single. Episode. That is centered around Cuddy is just phenomenal, her actress is so amazing at her job and the way she is written is just so believable. It’s crazy how they can write such a strong, independent, and calculated woman, but ALSO have her on the opposite side of very emotion and affection depraved. It genuinely hurts to watch her shut down the way she does numerous times on the show
The starts of Cuddys' miserable day and Houses' depressing moment.
Wow, how much is her kid going to love hearing about the time her mom decided to possibly let her die, call her a stupid mistake, give her up for adoption, and then decide as soon as she saw a brief moment of happiness to be selfish again and put that child into a life with a mother who is not mature enough to handle parenting :).
That kid gon be messed up xdd
It happened to me. I was holding my baby brother in my hand for so long and then he was taken away from me.
Still hurts when I think abt it.
"I'll never ask you to babysit"
[House eventually coaches Cuddy's kid for a preschool application through babysitting]
I can't handle the sad clips from this show sometimes.
chase delivers babies as well ...
Yeah, Jack of all trades)))))
House is very conciderate, and kind in his own way.
She first made a decision selfishly which could’ve caused death to her baby. She then saw something in another woman and she wanted to know the feeling for herself so again selfishly, she went back on an agreement that already changed somebody’s outlook on life.
Now I'm depressed
Nimal R Nair Alexa play despacito
When i was around 7 years old, my cousin had a similar rash on her hand. My parents told me "This is what you get when you cry alot needlessly". Maybe they were trying to scare me from showing emotion or being a bothersome child, but i always thought the patterns of that rash were very cool, and wanted to have them on my hand aswell. So one day when i hurt myself and started crying, i kept on crying longer than usual in an exagerrated way in hopes of getting it aswell 😅
As an adopted person, this type of thing makes me so infuriated. You shouldn't be allowed to change your mind once the baby has been born. You need to live with your choices.
god imagine how pissed that kid is going to be when they learn they didn't get to be raised by a rich doctor
2:24-2:35 You can clearly see 5 diffrent patterns of "baby barf". You can also see that in each cut Cuddy's shirt is wet from previous "barfs".
As a person who is adopted and born from Guatemala. I had a case closed adoption process where you can't know anything about your family or their names including medical history. My bio mom knew she couldn't raise me due to financial reasons and she had every opportunity to abort me but she knew she wanted a better life for me. So she gave me up for adoption and on the day of my birth they took me as soon as she gave birth and I know this sounds cruel but it is way for the birth mother not to interact with the child and have second thoughts because you have couples who are waiting for their child that they wanted so badly because those couples like my parents could not bear children. So after watching this made my blood boil like the blonde woman knew she what she getting into and then refer the baby that makes her feel like a loser. Like I saw my friend being happy and I want that too not because I love this child that I brought into this world all because my friend was happy so I took her happiness away from her. In that situation you can't just say sorry and this is going to go her way Cuddy has every right to be upset cause this is ridiculous and I've seen comments where the Blonde woman is a drug addic like no that child shouldn't anywhere near her.
:C she’s just a good doctor.
This show truly reflects the nuances of a lifestyle that is medically compromised, as much as it is personally. Loved this show so much- I could learn something new about it every single day.
Yeah, I'm sure this wreck of a girl is going to provide a better life for this child than Cuddy. I can imagine that child screaming "Don't let her take me Doctor Mommy!" I know I would lol.
This is the cruelest thing I've ever seen. Has been since I was 13.