wow, a mountain bike going UP a fun/rocky trail..... you dont see that much anymore :) great videos, really do like how you mention all aspects of ridding not just bombing down. My last bike (28lbs 140/130mm travel trail bike) would descend really well and was an absolute rocket going up smoother terrain and out of slow turns but stiffened up too much under power (anti squat?) so climbing tech was harder with lots of tires slips (like a hardtail it required a great deal of body english) I could actually clean some up hill tech lines on my park built tank Privateer 161 that I could not on the trail bike....lower gear active suspension and up I go (slow and steady but I make it) Looking at a few bikes that seemed to fit the bill but your Izzo vids pushed me over the top and I ordered the Izzo Core 3 this morning. ****I am 6'3" but more leg than average and my saddle always towers about my grip hight.... kinda bummed YT seems to ship with a slammed stem/cut the steerer. I will give it a summer and maybe order an uncut 140mm
Another great video, Rich…. Thanks! That last feature going up the ramp on that tight, right hand, steep, switchback… You made it look way easier than it is. 💪👍
Hey Rich! Know this video is a bit older but I recently got an izzo, and glad to see that you did this as I had the same idea. Do you think that instead of upgrading the fork entirely, if I instead upgraded the air shaft to 150mm it would have any difference as what you experienced? Do you think it would be a good idea? Thanks!
So, just set up the Izzo size large today with a 1-degree angleset, 150mm Lyrik Ultimate, and a .4 shock spacer for the Fox DPS Performance Elite. Had the BB in the high setting and had the stock 60mm stem on 780mm carbon bars. It's got about a 1228mm wheelbase with those short chainstays and a relatively steep seattube angle with about 140 psi in the rear shock. Anyway, its a near mathematical geo masterpiece. The anti squat values on the horst link are super focused and the wheelbase is subsequently quick to respond. It's all that's right with modern mtb's. :-)
You made the same sounds at the end of this video as you did in the beginning of the last one lol. Getting your breath taken away in two different situations. To the topic of the video, I like 36's on my trail bikes. I weigh about 205, 210 geared and watered up so the added stiffness helps when I do dumb stuff.
Hi Rich! You use Large, how tall are you? For a 173cm what you will recomend? With the 150 fork rhis bike will have 65°? Finally will be great compare with revel rascal. Cheers
Iam torn now...lol was about to go 140mm on the 34 on mine but have an extra 36 at the moment set up at 160mm so would need a shorter air shaft on that one.
hey there! I think they all compare very well. Obviously the Rascal and the Izzo are a bit more capable from a "trail" perspective, but all great bikes. I only have a bit of time on a medium Rascal, but I thought it was great. I'd like to ride a large to have a more heads up comparison between them. Tough call between the Spur and the Izzo, but I'd probably say Izzo with the 36 would be my go to. Still pedals great and has a decent amount more capability.
I know this is an old video and you've probably moved on from the Izzo but when you had the 150mm 36 on it did you find yourself struggling on climbs that you probably would have made with the stock 130mm 34? I'm also a 200-plus lb Rider and even though the 34 works I just feel like its 3 struggling with my weight a bit.
Hey Jason! I’m literally just sold this bike last week and I already miss it. There was NO DOWNSIDE to that 36 in my opinion and experience. It brought so much balance to that bike and made it so enjoyable everywhere I rode it.
@@richdrewtherideseries sweet thanks so much for the reply! I recently downsized my bike moving from a 150/160 bike, so far I love my Izzo just wish the fork offered a little more. The Izzo just makes more sense for the majority of what AZ has to offer.
So for someone who is heavy or rides heavy like you would they be better off purchasing the Jeffsy if they didn’t want to have to immediately modify their bike?
Weight limit and riding style are slightly different. I recommend looking at rider weight limit recommendations for bikes to get an idea. But heavy riding terrain? Certainly go Jeffsy over Izzo
Hey Tracy! I'd agree with what Tim said. I think it comes down to what terrain you're riding. The Izzo is certainly more capable with the 36, but it's not quite what the Jeffsy is.
Just curious since I know you’ve ridden the current non evo Stumpjumper do you think it’s worth going to a 150 fox 36 on it to make it more of a do it all bike?
Hey Rich. It was great meeting you at The YT mill. My son and I were the ones in the Sprinter Van. Let me know when you’re coming back out here. Would love to take a crew for to do the Ride Series jump clinic.
Hi from Versailles (France) Are you planning to do this test on a stumpjumper (no evo). If not, do you know anyone who has upgraded the stumpjumper fork from 140mm to 150mm? Salut :)
When I’ve ridden my wife’s Izzo I’ve thought a fox 36 would really improve it. I weigh 205 and the 34 is just too small for my liking. Thanks for a good review man!
@@richdrewtherideseries There's no problem with that particular piece of music. It fits perfectly in electronic music, has a solid beat, growling bass and some classic claps alongside the occasional snare. There's also no decibel problem, as you can easily tell that it's likely -14db, which is a standard for streaming music.
Although not a Izzo, I have a 2021 Stumpy (non Evo) and feel that a burlier fork like the 36 would be better for my 200+ lbs. But I am also torn because I have a Evil Wreckoning for heavy trail duty, but I also tend to ride my Stumpy fairly hard off some decent sized jumps and drops even on lighter "trail" days where I often bottom both the fork and shock out. Maybe I just need to trade in my Stumpy for something slightly more burly, even though I do really enjoy the light weight at times.
@@benwithrow5044 Yeah I have added a couple more spacers and tested upping the pressure to levels where traction starts to suffer and still manage to bottom with a hard 'thwang' sometimes, feels like the bike is flexing on impact. Of course on the flip side, for moderate trail riding the 34 feels very supple and responsive.
@@superawesomefuntimego As a point of reference, I'm about 215 lbs (before the gear) and ended up having to max out the volume spacers on my 160mm fox 36s. I ended up playing with a Shockwiz for a few weeks, adding one space at a time, until I got to the max. At the max number, the Shockwiz approved and the ride feels really good. I also ended up reducing the air pressure along the way per the Shockwiz recommendations. I was surprised that I would need all of the possible spacers.
I was gonna say the same thing about the Jeffsy. But the Izzo is not "down country", that would be a 130mm front with like a 120/115mm rear. Basically a cross country with more emphasis on down. So as is the Izzo is aready more down than a "down country". Izzo is a trail bike. I would say the OP would be better off with a Jeffsy
@@DaBinChe nah, bike manufacturers are making short travel bikes that are increasingly more capable. Revel Rascal, Commencal Tempo, Izzo, Top Fuel. They are quick bikes uphill that can are fun on flowy trails and can get you through the occasional enduro sections. Jeffsy and other 140/150 bikes are great but just simply don't offer the same ride characteristics
wow, a mountain bike going UP a fun/rocky trail..... you dont see that much anymore :) great videos, really do like how you mention all aspects of ridding not just bombing down. My last bike (28lbs 140/130mm travel trail bike) would descend really well and was an absolute rocket going up smoother terrain and out of slow turns but stiffened up too much under power (anti squat?) so climbing tech was harder with lots of tires slips (like a hardtail it required a great deal of body english) I could actually clean some up hill tech lines on my park built tank Privateer 161 that I could not on the trail bike....lower gear active suspension and up I go (slow and steady but I make it) Looking at a few bikes that seemed to fit the bill but your Izzo vids pushed me over the top and I ordered the Izzo Core 3 this morning. ****I am 6'3" but more leg than average and my saddle always towers about my grip hight.... kinda bummed YT seems to ship with a slammed stem/cut the steerer. I will give it a summer and maybe order an uncut 140mm
Another great video, Rich…. Thanks! That last feature going up the ramp on that tight, right hand, steep, switchback… You made it look way easier than it is. 💪👍
Hey Rich! Know this video is a bit older but I recently got an izzo, and glad to see that you did this as I had the same idea. Do you think that instead of upgrading the fork entirely, if I instead upgraded the air shaft to 150mm it would have any difference as what you experienced? Do you think it would be a good idea? Thanks!
Your face on the Wim Hoff finale. LOLZ
bro, SO DAMN COLD!!!
The frame of Izzo is compatible with a Fox shock dpx2 or Fox float x?
I don’t think so, pretty tight fit.
So, just set up the Izzo size large today with a 1-degree angleset, 150mm Lyrik Ultimate, and a .4 shock spacer for the Fox DPS Performance Elite.
Had the BB in the high setting and had the stock 60mm stem on 780mm carbon bars.
It's got about a 1228mm wheelbase with those short chainstays and a relatively steep seattube angle with about 140 psi in the rear shock.
Anyway, its a near mathematical geo masterpiece. The anti squat values on the horst link are super focused and the wheelbase is subsequently quick to respond.
It's all that's right with modern mtb's. :-)
Hey man! Quick question. I wanna do the same to my Izzo and put a 150 36 on it. Do I have to put a 1- degree Angleset ?
@@milo5213 I'm curious as well.
Seen my first YT up close yesterday was impressive 16lbs loved it
he dude, you recomend this fox 36 - 150mm for a techcnical hil ? do you must the same control but wiht more "securty" and funny? thanks a lot
You made the same sounds at the end of this video as you did in the beginning of the last one lol. Getting your breath taken away in two different situations.
To the topic of the video, I like 36's on my trail bikes. I weigh about 205, 210 geared and watered up so the added stiffness helps when I do dumb stuff.
I"m not sure which was worse ;) I agree man, I'm about 195/200 geared up and this thing is way better!
Hi Rich! You use Large, how tall are you? For a 173cm what you will recomend?
With the 150 fork rhis bike will have 65°?
Finally will be great compare with revel rascal.
Cheers
Hey Drew....Love for you to get a Capra Core 4 and review it as an enduro bike. Maybe compare it to the Pivot FB!! Great video as always.
Iam torn now...lol was about to go 140mm on the 34 on mine but have an extra 36 at the moment set up at 160mm so would need a shorter air shaft on that one.
I'd say go 36 man!! Try it with the 160 spring and see how it feels. Rob ran a 160 on his and dug it!
Did you change anything on the cockpit? I'm going OneUp 35mm rise bars for a more comfortable position. Interested to get input
Hi Rich, how does the Izzo compare to the Transition Spur and Revel Rascal?
hey there! I think they all compare very well. Obviously the Rascal and the Izzo are a bit more capable from a "trail" perspective, but all great bikes. I only have a bit of time on a medium Rascal, but I thought it was great. I'd like to ride a large to have a more heads up comparison between them. Tough call between the Spur and the Izzo, but I'd probably say Izzo with the 36 would be my go to. Still pedals great and has a decent amount more capability.
I know this is an old video and you've probably moved on from the Izzo but when you had the 150mm 36 on it did you find yourself struggling on climbs that you probably would have made with the stock 130mm 34? I'm also a 200-plus lb Rider and even though the 34 works I just feel like its 3 struggling with my weight a bit.
Hey Jason! I’m literally just sold this bike last week and I already miss it. There was NO DOWNSIDE to that 36 in my opinion and experience. It brought so much balance to that bike and made it so enjoyable everywhere I rode it.
@@richdrewtherideseries sweet thanks so much for the reply! I recently downsized my bike moving from a 150/160 bike, so far I love my Izzo just wish the fork offered a little more. The Izzo just makes more sense for the majority of what AZ has to offer.
Hello, Nice video, I want to do the same on my YT izzo. Could you tell me which was the suspension you bought so that I can charge the same?
Did this make it feel more stable in chunk? With the 130, every time i hit a rough section it feels like the front wheel wants to kick out
Do you have the YT water cage/bottle or just a standard one ? If it’s a standard one, no issues I’m assuming ?
I want to do the same thing.
Do you have to change the angle set ? Or can the 36 go straight onto the bike
Would love for you to do a live feed or Q&A once you do more updates with it
Looks like a handlebar and stem change too?
Heck yeah dude, we will do that soon. Didn't change the bar, just added an aluminum stem cap.
awesome izzo! i just got my jeffsy few weeks ago. i love what yt offers for the money. .
Nice review. Was wondering how the sizing is? I’m about 5’8, shy of 5’9, and debating if i want a Large or Med
im 5'10 on large, any shorter and I'd want a medium. 31.5'' inseam
So for someone who is heavy or rides heavy like you would they be better off purchasing the Jeffsy if they didn’t want to have to immediately modify their bike?
Weight limit and riding style are slightly different. I recommend looking at rider weight limit recommendations for bikes to get an idea.
But heavy riding terrain? Certainly go Jeffsy over Izzo
Hey Tracy! I'd agree with what Tim said. I think it comes down to what terrain you're riding. The Izzo is certainly more capable with the 36, but it's not quite what the Jeffsy is.
Would you consider beefing up the fork on the epic Evo?
It’s possible. I know some dudes are long shocking them and going with a 130mm Pike.
Just curious since I know you’ve ridden the current non evo Stumpjumper do you think it’s worth going to a 150 fox 36 on it to make it more of a do it all bike?
What DPS Float will fit the rear?
Hey Rich. It was great meeting you at The YT mill. My son and I were the ones in the Sprinter Van. Let me know when you’re coming back out here. Would love to take a crew for to do the Ride Series jump clinic.
Hi from Versailles (France)
Are you planning to do this test on a stumpjumper (no evo).
If not, do you know anyone who has upgraded the stumpjumper fork from 140mm to 150mm?
Salut :)
The idea of the Izzo is to be a short travel bike?
Awesome ending, but you forgot the "peace out, dumpers!!!" 😅
Did you flip the chip?
92 lbs with three volume spacers?! shreddddddddd
Are you in to swinging? My wife and me would love to play.
Lol wow
LOL
My boyfriend Tank and I are, send me location.
@@pedalandypedal
Is “pedal andy pedal” what Tank yells at you during a swing?
@@Jacob99174 followed by “so pinned”
When I’ve ridden my wife’s Izzo I’ve thought a fox 36 would really improve it. I weigh 205 and the 34 is just too small for my liking. Thanks for a good review man!
The 36 transforms it! That's coo that your wife rides an Izzo.
Drowned all the good sounds with, MUSIC!
Sorry about that. I'm trying to get better at these ones that I edit.
@@richdrewtherideseries There's no problem with that particular piece of music. It fits perfectly in electronic music, has a solid beat, growling bass and some classic claps alongside the occasional snare. There's also no decibel problem, as you can easily tell that it's likely -14db, which is a standard for streaming music.
Although not a Izzo, I have a 2021 Stumpy (non Evo) and feel that a burlier fork like the 36 would be better for my 200+ lbs. But I am also torn because I have a Evil Wreckoning for heavy trail duty, but I also tend to ride my Stumpy fairly hard off some decent sized jumps and drops even on lighter "trail" days where I often bottom both the fork and shock out. Maybe I just need to trade in my Stumpy for something slightly more burly, even though I do really enjoy the light weight at times.
36 is hard to beat, but add some spacers to experiment.
@@benwithrow5044 Yeah I have added a couple more spacers and tested upping the pressure to levels where traction starts to suffer and still manage to bottom with a hard 'thwang' sometimes, feels like the bike is flexing on impact. Of course on the flip side, for moderate trail riding the 34 feels very supple and responsive.
@@superawesomefuntimego As a point of reference, I'm about 215 lbs (before the gear) and ended up having to max out the volume spacers on my 160mm fox 36s. I ended up playing with a Shockwiz for a few weeks, adding one space at a time, until I got to the max. At the max number, the Shockwiz approved and the ride feels really good. I also ended up reducing the air pressure along the way per the Shockwiz recommendations. I was surprised that I would need all of the possible spacers.
Heat up your pool man! lol
Haha, that's Robs pool and the sun never seems to hit it. It felt good actually...once I caught my breath ;)
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might as well get a jeffsy then. izzo is a "downcountry" bike and was never meant for rougher trails.
Ok
Izzo is definitely not a "down country" bike. Maybe if the rest of the bikes were spec'd like the Uncage 7 model.
I was gonna say the same thing about the Jeffsy. But the Izzo is not "down country", that would be a 130mm front with like a 120/115mm rear. Basically a cross country with more emphasis on down. So as is the Izzo is aready more down than a "down country". Izzo is a trail bike. I would say the OP would be better off with a Jeffsy
@@DaBinChe nah, bike manufacturers are making short travel bikes that are increasingly more capable. Revel Rascal, Commencal Tempo, Izzo, Top Fuel. They are quick bikes uphill that can are fun on flowy trails and can get you through the occasional enduro sections. Jeffsy and other 140/150 bikes are great but just simply don't offer the same ride characteristics
So dry no vegetation...all kind of expensive bikes but not so fun place to ride.
Have you been?