The ability to cut wire, detach the scabbard and keep the knife in it while moving around makes it a better option imo, at the expense of a few ounces.
Yep, this prohibited person failed to mention or even think about any of that. Take this guy’s opinions with a grain of the tiniest salt. If you’ve seen anything else he’s claimed in his other videos/social media you’ll know exactly what I mean.
Well I don't know jack squat, but to me, one's clearly a bayonet while the other looks like it's trying to be a little of everything, survival knife, tool, etc. In my experience if an item does just the one thing it's designed for really well, that's more useful in the long run than trying to do a bunch of different things.
Having carried both in the US Army, I fully agree with you. I love that M10 scabbard with the Aussie paint job! Let me know if you are looking for a cool trade!
Having carried both myself, I have always preferred the M-7 over the M-9. Totally agree with you. The M-7 is just a better all around blade for numerous reasons, IMO
You aren’t wrong. While M9 is a beast, it is too heavy. It will beat the snot out of your thigh when you run. The wire cutter thing on the sheath is a snag point. I don’t know anyone who liked it other than those who just talked about them or collect them. They stayed in the arms room.
I thought the m9 shines when you use it as a bushcraft/survival knife. The m7 and m9 seem to be knives with different purposes: m7 seems like a fighting knife, whereas the m9 is a survival knife. I’m not so sure about saying one is better than the other.
@@cmv8722its pretty awful for some kinda bushcraft use, and soldiers really dont spent much time whittling sticks around camp fire or something to be fair.
Just to clarify, "survival knives" are fine if you want to carry one. But bayonets are issued to everyone regardless if you want it or need it. The sawback on the M9 is useless, anything it can cut can just be snapped and soldiers in the field have access to real heavy duty wire cutters when needed. When assaulting wire obstacles you would use Bangalore torpedoes or improvised. You would never use a bayonet wire cutter. The modern soldier is weighed down by stacks of kit and while there is an argument for a bayonet, the size and uselessness of the M9 is ridiculous. Pretty much everyone I served in the infantry loved it when they got it... then hated the stupid thing 2 days into their first field ex.
Yeah. Looking "bad ass" or "cool" doesn't really reflect reality. Cutting wire and running into the hills to bayonet the enemy. Not really how things are done anymore. Not saying that one, shouldn't know how to do it. But the M7 will work just fine as a bayonet. They already make tools to cut fencing wire. They're called fence pliers. I get the chisel, screwdriver and prybar concept. But I don't get the half a** at (kinda works) for everything, but good for nothing, "multi-tool" concept. If you're having to use your bayonet to cut wire? Somebody up in the "Planning Department", should have some explaining to do.
I picked up a mint unissued m7 with scabbard last year at our local gun show. I love it, and is part of my actual GTW kit aka alice webbing over a slick plate carrier. The m7 looks great too on my RRA AR-15a2. There will always be a place for the bayonet in my opinion.
I still have my original military service m7 and you just can't beat the sturdy build and simplicity of the spear point thin profile. No saw back , holes etc to hang up on an enemy's uniorm. Just a slick stab and back out. Mines razor sharp and it opened lots of MRE's and wooden crates. M9 is cool looking, and im not knocking it but I'd stick with the tried and true M7.
“Survival” knives & “tactical “knives are becoming indistinguishable these days now. My take; find whatever works best with _you._ If you like it then you like it, and if you don’t then you don’t.
First, the M9 doesnt weight that much if you actually do physical fitness. Second, a multi tool is not practical for cutting concertina wire. Third, not every squad or team has wire cutters available. My squad used these many times cutting concertina wire while deployed. Used properly it is a very effective tool and bayonet.
Just found this great channel and realised you’re in Australia so went looking to see if you had a video on the Australian M7, which you obviously do. If you hadn’t I was going to see what state you were in and loan you mine for a video.
@@pointynotsharp8436 in that case, send me a message with what area you’re in and we might be able to get some film of my Broadarrow marked M7 then, possibly.
The m7 is actually a bayonet. The m9 is a ka-bar that can attach to a rifle. Honestly I'd rather carry a purpose built bayonet, and an actual quality field knife rather than some hybrid that doesn't do either job particularly well.
So, by the time, the M9 bayonet was adopted the usefulness of the bayonet was pretty much gone. But some old army guys probably that having a bayonet should be standard, but needed more justification to carry one then just stabbing somebody.
The Army tried to do too much with the M9. It was based off the BuckMaster 184 Survival Knife. They tied making a bayonet, wire cutters, survival knife. And it just ends up sucking at all the tasks.
the m9 was made in a dick measuring contest against ak bayonets, same features, similar profile, just trying to hard to be better it ended up being worse. I wish the M7 stayed in use, just a way cooler and more practical knife
Just an observation.....in the unlikely event you have fixed your M9 to the rifle, how are you going go cut enemy wire with it on the rifle without standing up??? How about having the rifle and M7 next to you while you use the issued or private purchase wire cutters to cut wire. M7s have a spear point for piercing winter clothing,M9s have a clip point for slashing. Follow the money, which one is cheaper and leaves $$$ to buy wire cutters. If you lose the bayonet, do you lose the cutters too???
I don't know about hate mate... but I kinda don't even feel the weight of the bayonet....its just your personal preference... how does it affect the rest of us?
I haven't used both of these knives but i'm gonna get an M9 (Dummy Blade) in 7.5 days so imma see if you're right but anyways i think the wire cutter part is useful for some situations and i jusr like what it looks like
@@pointynotsharp8436 I'm still a bit new to bayonets, didn't even know the dutch made an M1 Carbine one until now. They look nice but dang that price is high. I have a Bren-Dan M4, do you know how they compare to M7s? they seem pretty similar.
M7 for the win. The M9 was a solution for a problem, that never existed. If concertina or barbed wire is preventing forward movement? You're doing it wrong. Absent "Engineer/Pioneers"? You get some "highly motivated", "Private Soldiers" to "volunteer", to lay across the wire, for the team/mission. Or just any random dead body that wants to be a hero. I guarantee you, "the enemy" got more cuts and scratches putting it up. I know, "booby traps". Well? There's only one way to find out. If you're ever in a war or battle, that requires a bayonet? That's the mindset you're going to have to develop.
The Versatility of the m9 is unmatched if you are complaining about weight fine but just because its heavy does not mean it will not serve you well the m7 is not a all purpose blade the m9 is plane and simple learn it like it love it
He has, he has served in the Australian army, he has said further up that he was in the light infantry, having used the M9 and M7 during his service and general use
The ability to cut wire, detach the scabbard and keep the knife in it while moving around makes it a better option imo, at the expense of a few ounces.
Don't you have a multitool in your kit?
@@TheOneWhoSimps Not one that can cut 12 gauge wire with ease, no.
@@shaggybalboa8276 never tried, but i dont see the extra weight being worth it.
Yep, this prohibited person failed to mention or even think about any of that. Take this guy’s opinions with a grain of the tiniest salt. If you’ve seen anything else he’s claimed in his other videos/social media you’ll know exactly what I mean.
@@coryw.5755like what has he claimed
m9 looks too sick though
It looks the part, I hated the thing when I was in the infantry though
Well I don't know jack squat, but to me, one's clearly a bayonet while the other looks like it's trying to be a little of everything, survival knife, tool, etc. In my experience if an item does just the one thing it's designed for really well, that's more useful in the long run than trying to do a bunch of different things.
The M-7 has always been and always will be better than the M-9. M-9 is a basically useless monstrosity. Give me a good ole M-7 any day
Having carried both in the US Army, I fully agree with you. I love that M10 scabbard with the Aussie paint job! Let me know if you are looking for a cool trade!
Never trading lol, very hard to get
@@pointynotsharp8436 I can't blame you.
The M7 design is a better stabbing weapon. Also cutting wire with the M9 sucks it goes blunt fast
You are not supposed to cut wire regularly with the knife. That's what Sappers and their tools are here for.
Having carried both myself, I have always preferred the M-7 over the M-9. Totally agree with you. The M-7 is just a better all around blade for numerous reasons, IMO
You’re absolutely right! I have both but the M7 is my favorite!😎🇺🇸
M9 was and probably still is junk ,we started getting them issued in the mid 80s they would break if dropped and held an edge about 30 seconds
You didn't mention the M7 is one solid piece of steel from tip to butt.
The M9 is made of parts screwed together and not as strong.
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You aren’t wrong. While M9 is a beast, it is too heavy. It will beat the snot out of your thigh when you run. The wire cutter thing on the sheath is a snag point. I don’t know anyone who liked it other than those who just talked about them or collect them. They stayed in the arms room.
I have had many m9... issued and personally. The m7 is a sticky pointy...the extras on the m9 are worthless and I never used it when I was issued one.
People advocate for tools you will never use havnt spent any time in the "light" infantry. I mean I cut my tooth brush in half to save weight
I thought the m9 shines when you use it as a bushcraft/survival knife.
The m7 and m9 seem to be knives with different purposes: m7 seems like a fighting knife, whereas the m9 is a survival knife.
I’m not so sure about saying one is better than the other.
@@cmv8722its pretty awful for some kinda bushcraft use, and soldiers really dont spent much time whittling sticks around camp fire or something to be fair.
M7 also wins in materials, since M9 uses 440 stainless blade but M7 uses 1050 steel
Just to clarify, "survival knives" are fine if you want to carry one. But bayonets are issued to everyone regardless if you want it or need it. The sawback on the M9 is useless, anything it can cut can just be snapped and soldiers in the field have access to real heavy duty wire cutters when needed. When assaulting wire obstacles you would use Bangalore torpedoes or improvised. You would never use a bayonet wire cutter. The modern soldier is weighed down by stacks of kit and while there is an argument for a bayonet, the size and uselessness of the M9 is ridiculous. Pretty much everyone I served in the infantry loved it when they got it... then hated the stupid thing 2 days into their first field ex.
Yeah. Looking "bad ass" or "cool" doesn't really reflect reality. Cutting wire and running into the hills to bayonet the enemy. Not really how things are done anymore.
Not saying that one, shouldn't know how to do it.
But the M7 will work just fine as a bayonet.
They already make tools to cut fencing wire. They're called fence pliers.
I get the chisel, screwdriver and prybar concept.
But I don't get the half a** at (kinda works) for everything, but good for nothing, "multi-tool" concept.
If you're having to use your bayonet to cut wire? Somebody up in the "Planning Department", should have some explaining to do.
I picked up a mint unissued m7 with scabbard last year at our local gun show. I love it, and is part of my actual GTW kit aka alice webbing over a slick plate carrier. The m7 looks great too on my RRA AR-15a2. There will always be a place for the bayonet in my opinion.
Still probably need to buy a bunch of tools to sharpen and maintain it to keep back at base or something
Agree 🍻
that wire cutter is actually pretty good though.
I still have my original military service m7 and you just can't beat the sturdy build and simplicity of the spear point thin profile. No saw back , holes etc to hang up on an enemy's uniorm. Just a slick stab and back out. Mines razor sharp and it opened lots of MRE's and wooden crates. M9 is cool looking, and im not knocking it but I'd stick with the tried and true M7.
“Survival” knives & “tactical “knives are becoming indistinguishable these days now.
My take; find whatever works best with _you._ If you like it then you like it, and if you don’t then you don’t.
I agree but the m9 looks cool opening MREs
If you like the m9 you might like the fairban Sykes British commando knife
Oh I definitely do
@@pointynotsharp8436 , Amen to that Mate. Thank you for your Service, from an American. Godspeed.
First, the M9 doesnt weight that much if you actually do physical fitness. Second, a multi tool is not practical for cutting concertina wire. Third, not every squad or team has wire cutters available. My squad used these many times cutting concertina wire while deployed. Used properly it is a very effective tool and bayonet.
Just found this great channel and realised you’re in Australia so went looking to see if you had a video on the Australian M7, which you obviously do. If you hadn’t I was going to see what state you were in and loan you mine for a video.
I've covered it with a US place holder. I'm cheating with mine, I have the Aussie M10 scabbard with a US BOC M7.
@@pointynotsharp8436 in that case, send me a message with what area you’re in and we might be able to get some film of my Broadarrow marked M7 then, possibly.
Benjamin Franklin saed,
The man , one who dues not prapare, will not be prepared.
The m7 is actually a bayonet. The m9 is a ka-bar that can attach to a rifle. Honestly I'd rather carry a purpose built bayonet, and an actual quality field knife rather than some hybrid that doesn't do either job particularly well.
M7 Columbus milpar one of my favorites that sits on my m4 carbine
So, by the time, the M9 bayonet was adopted the usefulness of the bayonet was pretty much gone. But some old army guys probably that having a bayonet should be standard, but needed more justification to carry one then just stabbing somebody.
I love the m9, you can cut chain link fences, and ends people like the pugio, not poke holes in people.
He is right 👍👍👍👍
Have both...and yeah, m7 is easier to carry. Its a better combat knife as well, especially if you wrap the grip with grip tape.
It's lighter to just carry an m7 in its scabbard PLUS a wire cutter than carry just M9 in its scabbard.
The m9 can be us on the m16 family rifles
The Army tried to do too much with the M9. It was based off the BuckMaster 184 Survival Knife. They tied making a bayonet, wire cutters, survival knife. And it just ends up sucking at all the tasks.
M-7 and a leatherman for the win.
I always used the M7 Bayonet. I had my own, if need be. I'd leave the M9 behind. Never liked it.
Of course nobody can change your mind... only you can do that however in a survival situation I'll betcha you will change your mind real quick
I had the M-7 and for survival or a hand weapon I would use my K BAR. It held a cutting edge better than either of the bayonets.
Spot on
the m9 was made in a dick measuring contest against ak bayonets, same features, similar profile, just trying to hard to be better it ended up being worse. I wish the M7 stayed in use, just a way cooler and more practical knife
Perfectly said
I see his point
Yea, but the m9 can be kept and used as a normal single edge blade where as the m7 can only be used as a thrusting weapon
Pun intended of course
it's always better to have it and not need it because you can't go get it
When you dont have anything else but these, you'll find them perfect.
I did what i had to do with whatever army gave me.
Just an observation.....in the unlikely event you have fixed your M9 to the rifle, how are you going go cut enemy wire with it on the rifle without standing up???
How about having the rifle and M7 next to you while you use the issued or private purchase wire cutters to cut wire. M7s have a spear point for piercing winter clothing,M9s have a clip point for slashing. Follow the money, which one is cheaper and leaves $$$ to buy wire cutters. If you lose the bayonet, do you lose the cutters too???
I just don’t go with KCB Bayonet’s for nato standard
45kg man complains a that a knife is "Heavy".
I just bought a m7 for 10$ case and all with serials numbers
History 🇺🇸
Great deal!
I don't know about hate mate... but I kinda don't even feel the weight of the bayonet....its just your personal preference... how does it affect the rest of us?
it's just a couple grams heavier, he's over reacting
Keyboard warriors are surely affected
What is that scabbard on the M7?
I carried both. The M9 is unnecessary.
you really think a couple extra grams matter that much? m9 is also overall larger which is nicer to have in a fighting situation.
The dent on your m7 is why I'll pick the m9
I haven't used both of these knives but i'm gonna get an M9 (Dummy Blade) in 7.5 days so imma see if you're right but anyways i think the wire cutter part is useful for some situations and i jusr like what it looks like
What are your thoughts on the M4 bayonet?
I love it,I'm after a Dutch one
I love it,I'm after a Dutch one
@@pointynotsharp8436 I'm still a bit new to bayonets, didn't even know the dutch made an M1 Carbine one until now. They look nice but dang that price is high. I have a Bren-Dan M4, do you know how they compare to M7s? they seem pretty similar.
Slightly agree
This made my veins pop
How much does kne cost
I’ll take the OKC-S3
Okc 3s for the win
But dam it's good to not to use up entry space
Wait what? The argument of need it and don't have it because you can not carry another .05oz? You do you Bro..........
m9 is superior
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M9 looks cooler , and will do the job
M7 for the win.
The M9 was a solution for a problem, that never existed.
If concertina or barbed wire is preventing forward movement? You're doing it wrong. Absent "Engineer/Pioneers"? You get some "highly motivated", "Private Soldiers" to "volunteer", to lay across the wire, for the team/mission. Or just any random dead body that wants to be a hero.
I guarantee you, "the enemy" got more cuts and scratches putting it up.
I know, "booby traps". Well? There's only one way to find out.
If you're ever in a war or battle, that requires a bayonet? That's the mindset you're going to have to develop.
M9 is waayy better I have multiple
I prefer M9
I am the owner of admiration No😅😊
Neither. I take the OKC-3s.
I can't argue with that 🤣
So you would rather carry other tools.
Australian?
Yes he is. He also served in the Australian military. He has said that in several of his videos.
ok ok, it's good to see another aussie XD
Must be weak if you cant carry the M9😂😂 it is so much better
The Versatility of the m9 is unmatched if you are complaining about weight fine but just because its heavy does not mean it will not serve you well the m7 is not a all purpose blade the m9 is plane and simple learn it like it love it
Ok maybe when you have to cut some wood to burn lemme know how that works for you.
Bayonets aren’t meant for doing that task.
Look... unless you have served and ACTUALLY used and carried both knives, your opinion dosen't count.
He has, he has served in the Australian army, he has said further up that he was in the light infantry, having used the M9 and M7 during his service and general use