But Chris is actually right and Rob is wrong...... Chris didnt say he wouldnt vote for Lamar. But unless its some crazy historical performance Lamar's not winning another one before he wins a superbowl. I mean even this year, he only won because nobody else stood out this year. If the voters have an option to give it to someone else they will. He'll be at a disavantage in a toss up race, he has to be the handsdown better candidate now.
@@kevonsidek9737I’ve been kinda getting those vibes. I think they’re still friends since they’ve known each other for decades but I think they’re (especially Chris) is kinda over it and Chris is doing more tv now and he even says he doesn’t have much free time
@@kevonsidek9737Yeah you can. If you are not Patrick Mahomes (for obvious reasons), Steph Curry (for obvious reasons), Brock Purdy or Tom Brady Chris Broussard will tear you down or discredit the player's accomplishments. Rob hates everybody but Aaron Rodgers, Kevin Durant or baseball players. It's been this way for the last year and a half.
I can't deal with First Things First it wasn't good before Chris got there to enflate Nick Wrong's ego even more while Kevin Wildes looks like he is scared to say anything to not piss Nick Wrong off that he will fire him. That show is not good.
So next year if he throw for 40 tds and runs for 10 and the ravens are 15-2 he not gon win mvp because he didn’t win this superbowl? I agree with Rob, Lamar could win about 4
Embiid was close, someone would have to be close enough. If no one is close yes. If Lamar is 4500, 40 and 10 rushing and the next guy is 4200, 36 and 2 less INTs even with the same record no chance. 3 MVP is special air, you can't just let anyone in.
Bro seriously you can't create a hypothetical and make it so unrealistic. This is a sports debate man . Do you even know how many teams have ever gone undefeated? Like come on now you can create a hypothetical to make any question go your way that's why it's so low down dirty and pathetic to be subjected to having to use one.
Such strong takes and yelling over hypotheticals. Love the passion they bring. Just wish they were in the same studio and we’d see some haymakers thrown 😂
Sports analysts are not unlike the regular fans. They will crucify players they don't like and make all the excuses in the wolrd for the players they do like. It's what it is.
Mahomes is a choker. He has gotten preferential treatment, and he does have the best coach in the league and a great offense. His receivers were inconsistent this year, but not at crucial times.
Them numbers was beyond average he didn’t rush for 1000 yards either. He was the best player on the best team that’s why he won it this year. Luckily for him no other QB played well this year. This was the year it should’ve gone to another position outside of QB.
Chris got upset with the backfiring comment because he didn't vote for jokic last season for MVP. So it ticked him off, and he so determined to tell Rob how things work that he isn't listening, Rob said it shouldn't work like that not that it doesn't. And no doubt Chris is one of those voters that does take into account post season into regular season awards which is another reason he mad.
Chris needs another lightskinned co-host that loves lightskinned players like him and Rob needs another cohost that life is all about baseball, hates Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Detroit Sports, wants every coach fired and every quarterback that's not his beloved Aaron Rodgers and also loves Kevin Durant.
Chris, you yell @ Rob constantly. Yelling doesn't mean you're correct and people will tune you out. Chris, you're being very sensitive. Rob says stop often, why you bothered now? I'm team Rob on this episode. Chris, be better smh.
RAVENS LOST BECAUSE LAMAR LIMITED HIMSELF, REGARDLESS OF THE REASON WHY, I'M PRETTY SURE SOMEHOW HE WILL LEARN NEVER TO DO THAT AGAIN IN THE PLAYOFFS. THE LAMAR HATE IS RIDICULOUS, LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S A DAK LEVEL QB
This was only Lamar 1st year in an entire new scheme/offense, still led team to best record and won mvp He still has time to improve and grow and get even more familiar. Y’all are juts nervous that LMar will not only be a HOF but will end up being a top 10 qb of all time or even better. Yalll are scared that An unapologetically blakc qb will be among the bets in a position that was exclusive WHITE
@@boogidwnej179 what!?!? I’m a major Lamar fan. Just don’t see how he has so much upside but Mahomes doesn’t in Robs eyes. There’s no upside Lamar has that Mahomes doesn’t. That’s my point.
He does it all the time....will do it with callers as well. I'm not a huge Parker fan and disagree with a ton of the stuff he says...but he keeps his same energy the majority of the time. Chris gets loud and will go for the personal digs a lot as well.....like reminding Rob he played like Division 15 basketball or something in college. Lol.
I agree with Rob. Chris is contradicting himself right and left - Lamar won MVP because the Ravens were 13-3, but he wouldn’t win another if they went 17-0… “It’s a regular season award”, but voters take postseason success into account… Jokic didn’t win a third MVP because he didn’t have playoff success, yet Embiid is the MVP frontrunner even though he’s disappointed in the playoffs. Chris’s voting calculus seems to allow two MVPs without postseason success, and then none thereafter, despite how well a player might play, until they win it all. This reasoning is arbitrary, it doesn’t follow the criteria for the award, and as Rob points out - it’s dumb.
He shouldnt have won it this year CMC should have, its bullshit that QB's get extra points just for being QB. King Henry should have won in 2020 but it went to Rodgers, its such a biased award. The real MVP of the RAVENS is there Def. The Ravens finished the regular season with a triple crown, NFL record as the first team in history to lead the league in points allowed (16.5 per game), sacks (60), and takeaways (31). NFL is such a joke at times.
@@soda8736 When that other QB played Lamar he had 4 INTs. The Ravens had a better record, hard schedule, more injuries, 7-1 against playoff teams, Lamar didn't have a bad game all season long. MVP is also the person with the least amount of flaws. The 49ers had a 3 game losing streak. So now all of those things doesn't matter because Purdy with 9 Pro Bowlers had more TDs? One person was the better QB this season and wasn't the reason their team lost games.
Rob just mad Lamar stunk it up in the playoffs. And this years mvp fugazi. Stats matter, Rob admits he watches highlights, he based his opinion of one game he watched the Ravens vs Niners game where Lamar had 2tds when he was giffted 5 turnoves. Ravens should have put up 50. But selted for 4 fgs with the mvp.. The mvp this year is a team award.
@@soda8736 You do know the Ravens style of play is to take possessions away and not to run up the score. Also most would argue that was his best game while it was Purdy's worse. Once again, MVP is a regular season award. You can't bring up the post season to discredit it.
Lamar shouldn't have won this MVP, but we know the media was going to do everything to keep the award from Dak or Purdy, who both had waaaayyyy better numbers
It’s not just about numbers when will you understand that? Lamar lead the Ravens to the best record in the entire league and destroyed Purdy and the 49ers on Christmas Day. That solidified the MVP for him.
@igiveyouthefacts so one game made him the MVP? Didn't the Ravens DEFENSE forces like 5 turnovers in that game? Just because the Ravens had the better record, doesn't mean that Lamar had a better season than Dak or Purdy! When will you wake up, start actually looking at the games instead of being lazy and giving the MVP to the QB on the team with the best record?
@@TD-de6zfthey were the best team due to Lamar. Their Oline was banged up all year, they lost 2 valuable RBs , and mark Andrews went down with a broken leg. Lamar masked all of that.
I agree with Rob tho. The ravens have another good season and clearly Jackson playing better than every other QB should deserve another MVP not it being robbed just because he hasn’t won a Super Bowl. It’s a regular season award
For those whose saying Lamar not the MVP, Ravens had the toughest schedule went 13-3 last game was technically a preseason game for them. The games they lost they technically beat themselves. Lost his All Pro TE mid way through the season and 2 RBs still beating playoff teams. Take Lamar from the Ravens, John Harbaugh would be the same position Bill Belichik is in right now
Yall weird for using the teams success as evidence that Lamar is the mvp. The Ravens were so good because they had the best defense in the league. Lamar was the definition of game manager this season with his average stats. Stop the cap bruh.
@@Freerider93 GTFO, Lamar is a Game changer, stats don’t tell the whole story. Plus Lamar been in every MVP conversation even the years he got hurt (except for his rookie year) since he’s been in the league
@@Freerider93why was Baltimore’s offense so good ? Last time I checked their defense didn’t score TDs for their offense. Ppl swear the ravens won 13-10 type of games. Lamar moved the offense up & down the field all year. Thats why he was 1st team all pro & mvp. Thats not game manager lol.
@@Finnissee0122 Bro....after Lamar's performance vs Mahomes you Lamar fansbois still do not have permission to speak. Lamar was straight up doodoo. Defense did their job all year. Always bailing Lamar out. Even set him up to beat Mahomes. Lamar just doesn't have what it takes bro
Everyone saying if Lamar has this kind of season saying he would win it, I think Chris believes that if there is another quarterback who is having a better season or close enough to Jackson that Jackson won’t win it because of the voters mindset of him in the playoffs, if the there is a tight mvp race then Jackson won’t win it
Lamar Jackson will never win an MVP again. He didn't even deserve it this year let's be real. 29 total tds. He won because his team had the best record.
Peyton Manning was a genius that relied on his arm. Once Lamar isn't a threat on the ground, he's toast. He won't age like those QBs. In 3/5 years, he'll no longer be elite.
Im with Rob here! Chris taking cheap shots was weak. Yes human psychology plays a role, but if Lamar balls out crazy next season he can very well win it. And his lack of post season success shouldn’t hinder him too much.
He doesn't need to win a Super Bowl... but he at least has to get there. I love Lamar... but he can't keep "Dak'n" it up (playing great during the regular season, then getting knocked out in the playoffs every year) or he'll get the reputation of choking every time it's playoff time and they'll quit giving him Mvp's regardless of stats. Fans and media can become hyper critical and finicky real quick. I don't see him getting another MVP until at least getting to the Super Bowl.
Because he never won a SB. People want to see you win a SB before they keep giving you MVP awards. Why would he have all of these MVP and never won a SB?
What Chris is saying True, & is the most likely outcome of how ppl vote for the MVP, but that doesnt mean Rob is wrong. Exceptions could happen if the player & his team is performing well enough. Its just that its Not likely a player will reinvent himself & nearly double his numbers to pull it off. Chris has this way of thinking his opinions are absolute unalterable fact, & as if talking over Rob makes it so. Rob has some wild, alternative Takes, but just because his Takes are odd doesn't make him wrong. They are opinions at the end of the day.
Jokic postseason failures was a myth. He avg over 27 and 12 before last season playoffs. His team struggled bcuz of injuries...voter fatigue is the reason. Happens to all the greats
Giving Lamar another mvp would be meaningless. He can’t be a ghost in the biggest games and be the face of the regular season year in year out. He has to care less about MVPs cos it’s going to come with an asterisks at the end of his career if he doesn’t win a superbowl.
Lane could retire as one of the greatest regular season QBs ever. I don’t think that’s bad, but what puts you in that upper echelon of greats is the postseason success. Similar to how many people didn’t move Rodgers up their list after the back 2 back.
Its a joke . This a media award. , Stats have to matter along with being on a good team , thats how its always been , i have back to mvps and they all had top qb stats..
That’s dumb as hell the mvp is a regular season award it has absolutely nothing to do with the postseason or how you perform in the postseason. It’s all about the regular season so thinking he won’t win cause of his playoff failures is ridiculous
“Don’t be yelling like you’re talkin to a child”.. Chris you do this to Rob 24/7
Bruhhh, I been watching them for a min... that was NOTHING!
Chris B. goin thru something🤔🤣✌🏾❤️
Exactly, he even does it with the callers😂
Sensitive Chris 😂 that was petty WOW 🤯
And he literally tells rob to stop it 😂
Beige rage. Lol.
I love it when Rob calls out Chris on his BS. Specifically on his voting on the NBA's last season MVP..
Right 😂
Rob is cooking Chris 😂
But Chris is actually right and Rob is wrong...... Chris didnt say he wouldnt vote for Lamar. But unless its some crazy historical performance Lamar's not winning another one before he wins a superbowl.
I mean even this year, he only won because nobody else stood out this year. If the voters have an option to give it to someone else they will. He'll be at a disavantage in a toss up race, he has to be the handsdown better candidate now.
They sound more like the grandparents arguing.
I'm starting to get Skip and Shannon vibes from these two 💥😂
nah chill 😂😂😂
You can tell these dudes don’t really like each other and they ready for the contract to be over
@@kevonsidek9737I’ve been kinda getting those vibes. I think they’re still friends since they’ve known each other for decades but I think they’re (especially Chris) is kinda over it and Chris is doing more tv now and he even says he doesn’t have much free time
@@kevonsidek9737Yeah you can. If you are not Patrick Mahomes (for obvious reasons), Steph Curry (for obvious reasons), Brock Purdy or Tom Brady Chris Broussard will tear you down or discredit the player's accomplishments. Rob hates everybody but Aaron Rodgers, Kevin Durant or baseball players. It's been this way for the last year and a half.
Not even close !!!
"i don't tell people to stop"
also chris:
"STOP ITTT"
onggg😂😂
lmao right
💯
They’re both so immature lol
But at least Rob doesn’t act like he’s better than everyone else, unlike somebody…..
Trueeee 👏🏾
It's been awhile since I've seen these two disagree and I love it
Chris needs a guy like Rob to push back on him…….First things First is too much of a love fest
Thats why I cant watch it
Yep
@@TheHiLiteShow7FTF ain’t nothing but a bunch to Bronsexuals on the same show.
I can't deal with First Things First it wasn't good before Chris got there to enflate Nick Wrong's ego even more while Kevin Wildes looks like he is scared to say anything to not piss Nick Wrong off that he will fire him. That show is not good.
@@17thN.O Yep, I didn’t even know Kevin’s name before now. He does the bare minimum.
So next year if he throw for 40 tds and runs for 10 and the ravens are 15-2 he not gon win mvp because he didn’t win this superbowl? I agree with Rob, Lamar could win about 4
Maybe if the players voted on it, but no they won't give him another one.
@@Freerider93Peyton Manning has 5 MVPs & 2 rings (2006 2015) it took Peyton 11 years between rings and he won all 5 MVPs before that 2nd ring
Embiid was close, someone would have to be close enough. If no one is close yes. If Lamar is 4500, 40 and 10 rushing and the next guy is 4200, 36 and 2 less INTs even with the same record no chance. 3 MVP is special air, you can't just let anyone in.
@@Freerider93if it’s undeniable they’ll have to give it to him it’s a regular season award lol
@@PrinceSlade22 Bruh, Peyton didn't get a 3rd MVP until he won a superbowl. They are not giving a dude with suspect stats a 3rd MVP without a SB.
Why is Chris sensitive bro?
Because he's light skinned
Why rob dark skinned sensitive??
He’s light skin
That Beige Rage
@@BoredAsf-ji5rc 😂😂
Chris is losing this debate badly, because he know damn well if the Ravens go 17-0 and Lamar puts up decent numbers his winning the MVP.
Bro seriously you can't create a hypothetical and make it so unrealistic. This is a sports debate man . Do you even know how many teams have ever gone undefeated? Like come on now you can create a hypothetical to make any question go your way that's why it's so low down dirty and pathetic to be subjected to having to use one.
@@dominicannick but it has happened before and that’s the point.
the only real MVP season he had was 2019. He wasn't even in TOP 5 for passing yards and touchdowns this season
@@OgSweenyTBZ_YT lol! Ravens arent going 17-0! That was a dumb point.
Such strong takes and yelling over hypotheticals. Love the passion they bring. Just wish they were in the same studio and we’d see some haymakers thrown 😂
Actually, every time they’re in studio together they act way more tame and barely argue at all
@@oblivionpro69I've noticed that too.
9:50 lmaoo I’m 60!! 😂
Chris tellin rob not to yell after yelling over rob for 5 minutes is wild no self awareness… Wilds is rubbing off on him
Chris is a bit of a crybaby
Yeah like bro calm your ass down lol
Not a bit, we’ve seen this behavior far too often.
So according to Rob Pat Mahomes is not that guy but Lamar is? If Mahomes had Lamar playoff record and performances he would call Mahomes a choker .
He might go the other way and be more sympathetic to Mahomes 😂😅
Sports analysts are not unlike the regular fans. They will crucify players they don't like and make all the excuses in the wolrd for the players they do like. It's what it is.
Mahomes is a choker. He has gotten preferential treatment, and he does have the best coach in the league and a great offense. His receivers were inconsistent this year, but not at crucial times.
@@DeCurtaRican^smooth brain analysis
@@DeCurtaRicanworst take I’ve ever heard
The problem with Chris argument is they vote for MVP before the playoffs
Chris is literally yelling louder than Rob throughout all of this 🤣🤣
His numbers weren't anything special. When you run for 1,000 yards in you're sleep like that it allows for mediocre passing numbers.
He didn’t run for 1,000 tho
Calculate TOTAL PRODUCTION.
Pass + Run Yrds/Tds
Than compare to Total production of other QBs.
@MuayThaiMiko that goofy don't know nothing
Them numbers was beyond average he didn’t rush for 1000 yards either. He was the best player on the best team that’s why he won it this year. Luckily for him no other QB played well this year. This was the year it should’ve gone to another position outside of QB.
@@SuperDre28 The defense getting all them turnovers and carrying them this season is the reason he won MVP.
I can't believe it for the first time I agree with Rob
Right Chris sounds like a fool 😂
😂😂😂 that 7:21 min mark....
😂 I love it! *nonsense rambling about MVP*
Ayo🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
This debate got heated QUICK!!! 😂😂😂😂😂. I love it. Rob and Chris a great!!!
Because Rob is a Lamar fan boy
People keep forgetting they vote for the awards before the playoffs
I loveeee when they get like this 😭
Facts lol
Chris got upset with the backfiring comment because he didn't vote for jokic last season for MVP. So it ticked him off, and he so determined to tell Rob how things work that he isn't listening, Rob said it shouldn't work like that not that it doesn't. And no doubt Chris is one of those voters that does take into account post season into regular season awards which is another reason he mad.
Chris is completely wrong.
Peyton Manning
4 MVP’s
2 SUPER BOWLS
Aaron Rogers
4 MVP’s
1 SUPER BOWLS
Yes, but both won a superbowl before their 3rd mvp.
He was right! People got to see him win a SB before they give him a third
Chris and Rob seem to rub each other the wrong way. I would not be surprised if this partnership came to an end soon.
It's part of the bit
It’s the reason why they get the most views
They have a contract, i doubt they will be still together when it ends.
I can definitely see that
Chris needs another lightskinned co-host that loves lightskinned players like him and Rob needs another cohost that life is all about baseball, hates Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Detroit Sports, wants every coach fired and every quarterback that's not his beloved Aaron Rodgers and also loves Kevin Durant.
Chrisssssss, PLEASE LET ROB SPEAK, DANG!!!!!!
Chris, you yell @ Rob constantly. Yelling doesn't mean you're correct and people will tune you out. Chris, you're being very sensitive. Rob says stop often, why you bothered now? I'm team Rob on this episode. Chris, be better smh.
Rob trying to land the Wingstop sponsorship🤣
Cris been sensitive lately and talking over Rob he is acting like Nick a little bit too much
Debate* show
RAVENS LOST BECAUSE LAMAR LIMITED HIMSELF, REGARDLESS OF THE REASON WHY, I'M PRETTY SURE SOMEHOW HE WILL LEARN NEVER TO DO THAT AGAIN IN THE PLAYOFFS.
THE LAMAR HATE IS RIDICULOUS, LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S A DAK LEVEL QB
It’s funny how Rob sees all that potential in Lamar but always thinks Mahomes is cooked lol
I know 😂😂 and it’s aways “what if Mahomes doesn’t win another superbowl or never gets there again” but some how he sees Lamar and Payton Manning
This was only Lamar 1st year in an entire new scheme/offense, still led team to best record and won mvp
He still has time to improve and grow and get even more familiar.
Y’all are juts nervous that LMar will not only be a HOF but will end up being a top 10 qb of all time or even better. Yalll are scared that An unapologetically blakc qb will be among the bets in a position that was exclusive WHITE
@@boogidwnej179 what!?!? I’m a major Lamar fan. Just don’t see how he has so much upside but Mahomes doesn’t in Robs eyes. There’s no upside Lamar has that Mahomes doesn’t. That’s my point.
@@boogidwnej179
Haha Patrick Mahomes is black?!? go look at his daddy’s dui mug shot
Great Episode so real these 2, the odd couple 🔥🔥🔥
When these guys argue is hilarious af! I love it
Chris start losing a debate he cuts rob off or gets emotional.
He does it all the time....will do it with callers as well. I'm not a huge Parker fan and disagree with a ton of the stuff he says...but he keeps his same energy the majority of the time. Chris gets loud and will go for the personal digs a lot as well.....like reminding Rob he played like Division 15 basketball or something in college. Lol.
Chris starting to get tired of getting talked down to 😂
I agree with Rob. Chris is contradicting himself right and left - Lamar won MVP because the Ravens were 13-3, but he wouldn’t win another if they went 17-0… “It’s a regular season award”, but voters take postseason success into account… Jokic didn’t win a third MVP because he didn’t have playoff success, yet Embiid is the MVP frontrunner even though he’s disappointed in the playoffs.
Chris’s voting calculus seems to allow two MVPs without postseason success, and then none thereafter, despite how well a player might play, until they win it all. This reasoning is arbitrary, it doesn’t follow the criteria for the award, and as Rob points out - it’s dumb.
This a team mvp award. Its a joke pushed by the media
He shouldnt have won it this year CMC should have, its bullshit that QB's get extra points just for being QB. King Henry should have won in 2020 but it went to Rodgers, its such a biased award. The real MVP of the RAVENS is there Def. The Ravens finished the regular season with a triple crown, NFL record as the first team in history to lead the league in points allowed (16.5 per game), sacks (60), and takeaways (31). NFL is such a joke at times.
QBs simply have the biggest impact on the game, hence "most valuable."
@@huntermorris7421 STFU dude its biased award.
@@huntermorris7421lamar didnt even have top 10 stats. it’s laughable when people just give it to the qb on the best team
@huntermorris7421 he still shouldn't have won. Other qbs had better stats. This a media driven award
@@soda8736 When that other QB played Lamar he had 4 INTs. The Ravens had a better record, hard schedule, more injuries, 7-1 against playoff teams, Lamar didn't have a bad game all season long. MVP is also the person with the least amount of flaws. The 49ers had a 3 game losing streak. So now all of those things doesn't matter because Purdy with 9 Pro Bowlers had more TDs? One person was the better QB this season and wasn't the reason their team lost games.
Chris is RIGHT
Yup
Nope! Lamar Jackson 2 time mvp!
Rob just mad Lamar stunk it up in the playoffs. And this years mvp fugazi. Stats matter, Rob admits he watches highlights, he based his opinion of one game he watched the Ravens vs Niners game where Lamar had 2tds when he was giffted 5 turnoves. Ravens should have put up 50. But selted for 4 fgs with the mvp.. The mvp this year is a team award.
Chris was wrong lol
@@soda8736 You do know the Ravens style of play is to take possessions away and not to run up the score. Also most would argue that was his best game while it was Purdy's worse. Once again, MVP is a regular season award. You can't bring up the post season to discredit it.
Lamar shouldn't have won this MVP, but we know the media was going to do everything to keep the award from Dak or Purdy, who both had waaaayyyy better numbers
It’s not just about numbers when will you understand that? Lamar lead the Ravens to the best record in the entire league and destroyed Purdy and the 49ers on Christmas Day. That solidified the MVP for him.
@igiveyouthefacts so one game made him the MVP? Didn't the Ravens DEFENSE forces like 5 turnovers in that game? Just because the Ravens had the better record, doesn't mean that Lamar had a better season than Dak or Purdy! When will you wake up, start actually looking at the games instead of being lazy and giving the MVP to the QB on the team with the best record?
@@TD-de6zfthey were the best team due to Lamar. Their Oline was banged up all year, they lost 2 valuable RBs , and mark Andrews went down with a broken leg. Lamar masked all of that.
This show is hard to watch now. These dudes don't even seem to like each other atp.
Well said Rob.
Why shouldn’t he win if he has the best season. Aaron Rodgers kept winning them even though his Super Bowl was over decade ago
I'm with you Rob Parker! Chris sounds crazy!!! Again, Lamar is keeping receipts!!! You need to STOP Chris!!!!
Rob destroyed Chris today.
I agree with Rob tho. The ravens have another good season and clearly Jackson playing better than every other QB should deserve another MVP not it being robbed just because he hasn’t won a Super Bowl. It’s a regular season award
I love the heated arguments 😂
The best. Love when they rip each other
Steve Spagnola makes some really good qbs look bad .
For those whose saying Lamar not the MVP, Ravens had the toughest schedule went 13-3 last game was technically a preseason game for them. The games they lost they technically beat themselves. Lost his All Pro TE mid way through the season and 2 RBs still beating playoff teams. Take Lamar from the Ravens, John Harbaugh would be the same position Bill Belichik is in right now
Yall weird for using the teams success as evidence that Lamar is the mvp. The Ravens were so good because they had the best defense in the league. Lamar was the definition of game manager this season with his average stats. Stop the cap bruh.
@@Freerider93 GTFO, Lamar is a Game changer, stats don’t tell the whole story. Plus Lamar been in every MVP conversation even the years he got hurt (except for his rookie year) since he’s been in the league
@@Freerider93why was Baltimore’s offense so good ? Last time I checked their defense didn’t score TDs for their offense. Ppl swear the ravens won 13-10 type of games. Lamar moved the offense up & down the field all year. Thats why he was 1st team all pro & mvp. Thats not game manager lol.
@@Finnissee0122 Bro....after Lamar's performance vs Mahomes you Lamar fansbois still do not have permission to speak. Lamar was straight up doodoo. Defense did their job all year. Always bailing Lamar out. Even set him up to beat Mahomes. Lamar just doesn't have what it takes bro
Lamar should’ve not been MVP this year. Stats were shitty. Defense was the main reason they were winning.
Team mvp award contrived by the media.
Everyone saying if Lamar has this kind of season saying he would win it, I think Chris believes that if there is another quarterback who is having a better season or close enough to Jackson that Jackson won’t win it because of the voters mindset of him in the playoffs, if the there is a tight mvp race then Jackson won’t win it
That’s false. The playoffs have 0 weight on the mvp award.
Lamar Jackson will never win an MVP again. He didn't even deserve it this year let's be real. 29 total tds. He won because his team had the best record.
Broussard being the Pastor that he is, tries to cover his bull with more bull.
It's the religious person's go-to move
Chris is on his Drake jawn.
It’s a regular season award 🤣
No need to discuss that. He is a QB MVP in the regular season.
Peyton Manning was a genius that relied on his arm. Once Lamar isn't a threat on the ground, he's toast. He won't age like those QBs. In 3/5 years, he'll no longer be elite.
Right he'll never be a natural in the pocket
Yea dual qbs dont age well , his window could be short
Lame-ar Jackson is no damn
Mvp! This joker can't read defenses or make consistent quality throws
“Who said it has to be realistic” ….Rob bro your business is to be realistic 🤣🤣
4 mvp’s lol. The guy can’t even throw. My God.
So how did he win his first 2 ?
@@Finnissee0122 black guilt.
Rob is 100% correct playoffs should not count as anything when voting
Chris be the main one yelling everyday
Im with Rob here! Chris taking cheap shots was weak.
Yes human psychology plays a role, but if Lamar balls out crazy next season he can very well win it. And his lack of post season success shouldn’t hinder him too much.
Chris is big timing Rob
Love these two 😂😂
This one crazy. I didn’t expect it. Usually they r cordial in their debates n conversations
This is called a bad day at work😂😂😂
I can see Brou's Wemby watch tv in the reflection in the window!
He doesn't need to win a Super Bowl... but he at least has to get there. I love Lamar... but he can't keep "Dak'n" it up (playing great during the regular season, then getting knocked out in the playoffs every year) or he'll get the reputation of choking every time it's playoff time and they'll quit giving him Mvp's regardless of stats. Fans and media can become hyper critical and finicky real quick. I don't see him getting another MVP until at least getting to the Super Bowl.
Why do you have to win a superbowl to win a regular season award?
Lol ikr ridiculous logic
Because he never won a SB. People want to see you win a SB before they keep giving you MVP awards. Why would he have all of these MVP and never won a SB?
@@hinata365247the mvp has nothing to do with a Super Bowl or any post season game.
I dont think he might want another mvp if he has no rings because thats just more criticism
Aaron Rodgers has 4 MVP Awards and 1 Superbowl. They already moving the goal post back and it's two weeks after the season ended.
What Chris is saying True, & is the most likely outcome of how ppl vote for the MVP, but that doesnt mean Rob is wrong. Exceptions could happen if the player & his team is performing well enough. Its just that its Not likely a player will reinvent himself & nearly double his numbers to pull it off.
Chris has this way of thinking his opinions are absolute unalterable fact, & as if talking over Rob makes it so. Rob has some wild, alternative Takes, but just because his Takes are odd doesn't make him wrong. They are opinions at the end of the day.
He shouldn't have won the MVP this year.
😂😂 the odd couple living up to their name
Jokic postseason failures was a myth. He avg over 27 and 12 before last season playoffs. His team struggled bcuz of injuries...voter fatigue is the reason. Happens to all the greats
Chris was being realllll lightskin today. 😂 Rob was speaking pure facts
LS always more drama
Chris got caught with that question. 17-0 . That’s the good one. U didn’t want to answer. Lol😂
Best duo in sports they argue like a old married couple lol
Giving Lamar another mvp would be meaningless. He can’t be a ghost in the biggest games and be the face of the regular season year in year out. He has to care less about MVPs cos it’s going to come with an asterisks at the end of his career if he doesn’t win a superbowl.
Lane could retire as one of the greatest regular season QBs ever. I don’t think that’s bad, but what puts you in that upper echelon of greats is the postseason success. Similar to how many people didn’t move Rodgers up their list after the back 2 back.
Yeah he will, as long as its a bs Political Award now days, where you don't need the best stats to win it.
Its a joke . This a media award. , Stats have to matter along with being on a good team , thats how its always been , i have back to mvps and they all had top qb stats..
Rob won this one if Lamar go 17-0 and have 40 td’s he winning MVP 😂
two old heads bumping heads like uncles at the cookout
He don't talk like that on the other show
Cuz he scared to lose that check
You got that one RP😂
These guys get along most of the time, but sometimes their arguments get cringe-worthy.
Rob is 💯 right. Part playoff history shouldn't have nothing to do with a regular season award. That's just stupid.
Rob🏁
I love the aggressive debate welcome back Chris Rob ain't so light on you like Nick is
Rob gets crazy emotional about Lamar Jackson.
Why they fighting 😂😂
Rob is a lamar glazer
"Dont tell me to stop"
Brou: "STOP IT!!!"
These 2 have very little chemistry and is mind blowing how this show is still on.
He basically won this MVP because of the 49ers game.
Which is a joke. 2tds while being giffted 5 turnovers, sellted for 4 fgs.
Chris crying his ass off on this take 😆
So we're moving the goal post again? Thanks Chris.
That’s dumb as hell the mvp is a regular season award it has absolutely nothing to do with the postseason or how you perform in the postseason. It’s all about the regular season so thinking he won’t win cause of his playoff failures is ridiculous
What's crazy is they both makes sense. I see both sides
Correlation is not causation Chris...