You can say that but when Rob is mad it’s a whole different level he is by far the most emotional analyst on Tv.. when Brady does well the man takes his headphones off pouts like a baby 😂
I been tryna find the video of their fight where chris brought up Aaron Rodgers in the discussion and rob just went off. Like left the mic and everything lol I can’t even remember the podcast ep smh. Wish there was a video from a couple days ago, where chris was choking and they played that “I had a glizzy in my mouth” sound byte of rob when he came back 🤣
They had an all-star cast around Baker Mayfield. Nick Chubb Kareem hunt, the best running backs in the league. The best line in the league. Get out of here.
Give the browns credit, they finally diagnosed the cancer on the team. First they thought it was Odell but no it was Baker and they are better to cure that
Yea Rob is trippin. They not disrespecting Baker by trying to find the best man for the job. They want to win a superbowl not just a playoff game. And they did what was best for the team.
@@lifeofBandB That's not on Baker. He did not start his rookie season until the third game. That was on Hugh an Haley beefing with each other. They should have kept Greg Williams.
@@lifeofBandB happens to the best of em, go look how many head coaches Derrick carr has played for hell he played for 2 different coaches just last year.. why isn’t the locker room coming out in support like the 9ers with Jimmy G? That says a lot
he was an average qb when healthy. he didn't improve from his rookie season. even if you give him a pass for last season being injured, it didn't really seem like he was projecting towards being an elite quarterback. and even if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he could be an above average qb, the browns saw and opportunity to get a top 5 qb and took it. he needs to just find a new team and work on his game.
@@Perks5 like i said, even if you think he's a good quarterback, he's nowhere near deshaun watson. unless you're an elite/annual pro bowl caliber qb, you're replaceable. it's not hard to understand
They had Case Keemun on the bench the only reason baker played the season was because he and the browns was afraid of Case taken over the Team case closed
@@itsmeflacko1618 The two games Case started they won after the first win Baker rushed right back then the second win was in January like I said bro he knew he was in jeopardy he had 1 lost and that was because he came in midway through a game for baker and the game was already over
I dissagree i hate baker honestly cuz im a rival fan from bmore but honestly the brown suck at everything they do.. they cycle out coaches, GMs, qbs in the 100s its ridiculous..i love seeing it cuz they always end up sucking ass. But baker did gut it out last year.. they let all his targets go ( laundry, and OBJ ...hooper too i think and then just go all kurk cousin on deshawn a guy who might not even suit up for the 22-23 season... and not on a nfl field for damn near 2 seasons at that point...come on how smart is that????? Baker got fucked..but who cares browns suck still!!! Lmfao
@@itsmeflacko1618 he was whining when he sent the "goodbye letter" to the fans....trying to garner sympathy Baker is thrash that's why Cleveland moved on....the girl dumped you ..get over it
Bad point. Because Tua (even though there was rumors about it) never ACTUALLY got replaced. Baker felt like he got the short end of the stick, so let him speak on it.
The second Herbert showed his skill in his rookie campaign, Talk of Tua getting replaced by Watson was on in all the media his whole career never heard a word from him.
He has a right to feel disrespected but he had 4 years to prove he’s the guy that can lead them to the championship not just win a playoff game. Teams have always looked to improve the position before baker and after
@@SmartDave60 I wouldn’t rule it out there was now way baker was playing for them again. More likely they look at other qbs like Matt Ryan or jimmy g with the roster they have
What does being hurt have to do with not seeing open receivers? Or making the wrong decisions? He has the speed of the offensive lineman. Why is he old so much more than every other quarterback that’s mediocre? Couldn’t throw a second half touchdown. Threw interceptions every time with the last possession to win
@@skylerjirtle8841 Yes people forgot that he got beat by Chad Henne. And the next year, a fully healthy Baker who played against the horrible early season Chiefs defense, threw an INT in the 4th to lose the game.
Baker and reps knew that the Browns were going after Watson last March. It is not they decided at the last monent. They planned it for months, Berry said that. It is all about priduction. Thats what NFL is.
@@neilmonisit8781 you no lying either, this ain’t like back in the days. You have players like joe burrows, Justin Herbert & Patrick mahomes who great out the gate and they weren’t first picks in the draft. So why we gotta wait on you baker.
When it's somebody he doesn't like he'll rip them for speaking out. Now that it's Baker he's telling Chris don't tell Baker how to feel. That dude is a walking contradiction.
Been a Browns fan all my 55 years of living and Chris is spot on with his take. Yes I wanted things to workout with BAKER however Watson is more than an UPGRADE!!! Now granted Bakers feelings are his own however be careful Baker as no teams are breaking down doors to sign you. Focus on getting yourself football ready for next season and stay out of the media!!!!
@tosh.0reddy728 so far he hasn't payed off but let's get him healthy. Right now real talk he's insignificant as it's all about these players who are playing. Let's go 1 and 0 this weekend. Keep in touch.
What? Professional players play through injury. It is a normal sacrifice for the team and teammates. Had he not done it, people would criticize him for that anyway.
Baker is a grown man and a father. Football is a kids game and he gets paid millions. Man up and roll with the punches. I think skip might have called his boy Rob to put that cape on.
People still riding the playoff win? Didn’t Big Ben have 5 turnovers 3 or 4 coming in the first qtr that resulted to great field position and easy scores like cmon
The media always switching yo words up. He said he felt disrespected because they told him sumthn. And did sumthn different. He wasn't saying he is sum great quarterback that couldn't be replaced.
Yup Baker was replaced because a top 5 QB was available. Otherwise he keeps his job. If Baker wasn’t disappointed and feeling disrespected he wouldn’t be a competitor.
Rob pick and chooses who he applies criticism to. Dak played with a bad throwing shoulder and got criticized by Rob for the end result 2 years ago. Never acknowledged he was playing hurt for weeks
@@pedrofior2562 so because the Browns were trash for many many yrs ....they should be happy with mediocre and stand pat....that's wat Baker was thinking he had done enough....it's a wat have you done for me lately league
@@jamesjackson2117 exactly! That's what pisses me off. You have guys like Rob, Skip, and Nick saying we should settle because we're the Browns. Nah. Doesn't work like that. Nor would it work for any other fans if their teams were in the same position. The goal is Super Bowl or bust. Period.
Trubisky made the playoffs twice, went 12-4 and won a division that had Rodgers & Adams in it! I'm a Packers fan and don't like trubisky at all but Mayfield did nothing special at all and to me was not disrespected at all! You gotta produce in the NFL! Hell Rodgers is a 4x MVP coming off back 2 back MVP'S and gets Ripped every day for something! COWHERD goes out of his way to criticize Rodgers Every single day! So I don't feel bad for baker at all!
the reason why Rodgers get criticized is because he choke In the biggest moments. he is 0-2 against Jimmy garoppolo 😂💀. like I said the reason why Rodgers made the Superbowl is because Jay cutler got injured he wasn't injured cutler would have beat him & made a Superbowl
One thing I hate about the media they will ask these players a question & then criticize them for being honest & if the players lie they criticize them for that so where do they get a break. Hell yeah if I was Baker I'd be pissed until he stepped through those doors Cleveland went 1-31 has he been great at all times no but it's hard for anyone to be great in his situation. Idc who you put in these last for years that team wasn't going far blaming it all on Baker is weak & when they are the same or worse next year everyone is going to make an excuse for DeShawn that they should've given Baker from jump
The thing is the browns didn’t exactly handle the situation professionally. It’s fine if you wanna upgrade at qb, but the way they handled it was wrong. And they need to release baker so he can find a team instead of leaving him dangling in the wind
Dude arrogant asf tho. All that arrogance is coming back as karma. It would be different if he was actually really good. He is average at best. He ain't no Aaron Rodgers
No they don’t need to do a thing, they wasted a #1 pick on him lease they could do is maybe get some picks back he was a total disappointment no one mentions that he led the league in int since he’s entered the league that’s horrible
@@jamespappas887 well he’s outta luck I wouldn’t cut him until I got something back he wasted years and so much of the teams money with his garbage ass play and refusal to grow up
Thank you Chris for always keeping it 💯 facts over feelings. I’m surprised Rob is being so lenient with Baker when clearly his panties are in a bunch. Baker has always been that guy to talk the talk rather than walk the walk. He needs to grow the hell up and just go out there next year and prove the Browns wrong. He was the number one overall pick and so far has not lived up to it.
Rob gotta remember that he knows how to have a debate… he doesn’t actually listen to understand sometimes. Especially if he feel like Chris ain’t making sense to him… all of a sudden he gotta “send a text” or check his phone 😂😂😂😂
Rob is the most hypocritical dude in history lol how u criticize brady for capitalizing off that playoffs game against the saints when Bree’s was a turnover machine but coddle baker for winning a playoff game when pittsburgh turned the ball over like crazy
The browns also didn’t have Nick chubb, Kareem Hunt, and that offensive line before let’s not act like Baker was out there throwing dimes the browns had the best run game and o line.
@@ksolo614 I give him his respect that he was able to play within the system but that’s all, Kevin Stefanski helped baker a lot. A lot is still on baker he don’t read coverages good and footwork is terrible . Hell of a arm but not accurate it’s a business he need to move on. Many teams was interested in Watson you don’t hear there qbs doing all this .
@@thegoatofyoutube1787 Chris' point was not that though. Come on, Bro: let it go. Chris was talking about one thing, and you are talking about another. "Two things can be true!" But that is not what Chris was talking about...
As a browns fan who actually watched every single baker mayfield game. This idea that Baker won a playoff game and he won 11 games and turns the browns around is false. He was a piece but we were a running team and in that playoff game our defense forces like 4 TO and we were running the ball at them it wasn’t like baker carried us on his back. I appreciate his contributions but he did not Turn browns around
Baker Mayfield feeling like someone owes him something is hilarious lol...dude when that team wins it wins despite you... that roster had enough talent that a real qb would've took them to a bowl
Maybe Im missing something, but Rob's energy is weird. Chris seems to be attentive when Rob is speaking, but when Chris is talking Rob disconnects and looks like Russell Westbrook in a post game interview after a loss. I would like to see them in a room together doing the show. I hope I'm wrong... they have the most views of all the other FS1 shows on RUclips.
Baker had a bunch of things go wrong in Cleveland... he did have several coaches and coordinators..coordinator... maybe consistently will help him tremendously
Chris is 100% right. Baker and his fanboys keep using his injury as an excuse for his bad play. Big Ben has been playing injured for the past few season, led Pitt to an 11-0 record and made no excuse this past season. 1 playoff win means absolutely nothing.
All that Rob said is that Baker is entitled to feel the way he does. I agree with that. Chris is basically saying that this is business and Baker's production was the main problem, hence why they got Deshaun. Two things can be right at the same time. Yes, Baker did improve Cleveland to a certain point and he was injured but he is not an elite QB and the browns saw an opportunity. Baker is right to feel the way he does but he needs to acknowledge that his production was subpar to average at best..which could be seen as a reason why the coaching staff was in high turnover. But the argument could be made in the reverse. Like the Browns and Baker, both sides need to come to terms that there was mismanagement and poor production, Rob and Chris need to both acknowledge those factors as well.
They're both right, though I agree with Chris more. In most professions when you lose your job you don't make public complaints so that every other potential employer can see how much of a PITA you are. You put your head down, put the work in and try to land that next job. You never trash the previous employer, especially when they did nothing wrong. He really should stop what he's doing and be a professional about this. He's not that good and the only teams that will take him are the ones that can't find someone better, not because they want Baker Mayfield.
As a Steelers fan, I'd say the browns did disrespected baker, and let's not forget you won their first playoffs anyway 20 years, and he can feel whatever he feels or however he feels, and it has nothing to do with Watson.. send bake and sake to the Steelers
The ironic thing is that I believe that he “felt disrespected” when the Browns were talking to Watson, so when they were initially out he tried to play hardball with them when they turned to him (a-la Kyler Murray). He probably thought it would make them increase their offer to him, and instead they upped their offer to Watson.
Watson threw for 33 tds to 8 picks other year and Texans won 4 games. How much better can he do on the browns tbh? I hope you guys realize Watson has to get to a super bowl to validate the move at the very least. They were 1 play away from the AFC championship game with Baker so just getting back to the playoffs ain't gonna cut it
Why should he? Mitch in a harder division at the time won division and had 2 postseason appearances and is a pro bowl QB. Mitch also torn his labrum before but Rob making excuses only for BAKER.
I’m not a baker fans but he has done more for them than the last 20 plus QBs they had over the last 20 years and the browns are a chaotic organization so it’s not a slam dunk that Watson can just fix that all by himself. The need major fundamental organizational changes
Baker need a lil more fire, he's got the ability to be a top 10 QB, but he doesn't have the willpower great qbs dig deep for to produce a 'drive'. Sometimes that 1 drive sends a message to the opponents that u not fuckn around.
If watson is the same qb he was before there will be zero regret. That man had brandin cooks and then nothing on his offense and was producing at a top 3 qb level
Chris hates being cut off/interrupted but cuts off Rob all the time. It’s hilarious 😂😂😂
light skinned behavior
👏👏👏👏 all the time. I agree with both sides but Chris stays cutting Rob off and taking over the mic
You can say that but when Rob is mad it’s a whole different level he is by far the most emotional analyst on Tv.. when Brady does well the man takes his headphones off pouts like a baby 😂
@@NicTheFreak02 don’t he tho!!!
It’s hilarious until someone leaves the show.
“STOP IT!!! STOOOOPPP IIITTTT!!!”
when they are actually serious in their opinions and they fight, I kinda like it
Lol
Kinda??? I f***ing loved it lol
I been tryna find the video of their fight where chris brought up Aaron Rodgers in the discussion and rob just went off. Like left the mic and everything lol I can’t even remember the podcast ep smh. Wish there was a video from a couple days ago, where chris was choking and they played that “I had a glizzy in my mouth” sound byte of rob when he came back 🤣
It’s hilarious
@@ronaldsaintrose9254 me too
Baker should not put up with this disrespect! he should take his talents to the XFL
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lmao, mystery solved😂
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Lol
They had an all-star cast around Baker Mayfield. Nick Chubb Kareem hunt, the best running backs in the league. The best line in the league. Get out of here.
And he took them to the second round of the playoffs when he was healthy. He was injured this year and they screwed him. You get out of here
Baker is slightly above average talent, above average heart, below average attitude
AND a superb defense.
There wasn't a single game where Baker was successful when the run game wasn't
@@bentipp9539 hes never really won without that run game working. You cannot put a game on his shoulders alone
in Baker's eyes he's a top five quarterback three-time All pro two-time league MVP and three-time super bowl MVP in his eyes.
😂😂 Boy Finna Get A Gold Jacket
Lmfaooooo
@@TypicalBlakk from Burlington 😂
Lmao
Give the browns credit, they finally diagnosed the cancer on the team. First they thought it was Odell but no it was Baker and they are better to cure that
Odell definitely was a cancer. Had his dad call out the QB and turned the fan base against the QB
Yea Rob is trippin. They not disrespecting Baker by trying to find the best man for the job. They want to win a superbowl not just a playoff game. And they did what was best for the team.
4 head coaches
@@lifeofBandB That's not on Baker. He did not start his rookie season until the third game. That was on Hugh an Haley beefing with each other. They should have kept Greg Williams.
@@lifeofBandB happens to the best of em, go look how many head coaches Derrick carr has played for hell he played for 2 different coaches just last year.. why isn’t the locker room coming out in support like the 9ers with Jimmy G? That says a lot
Chris loves to say, let me talk. Don’t interrupt. But he’s the king of interrupting 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly!
Chris gets too emotional.
Facts
Lol
he was an average qb when healthy. he didn't improve from his rookie season. even if you give him a pass for last season being injured, it didn't really seem like he was projecting towards being an elite quarterback. and even if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he could be an above average qb, the browns saw and opportunity to get a top 5 qb and took it. he needs to just find a new team and work on his game.
Exactly it was a mixture of bad leadership, relationship with the coaches , inconsistent play and the injury all added up .
He was a lot better than average when healthy yall baker haters love to just ignore his good seasons
@@Perks5 like i said, even if you think he's a good quarterback, he's nowhere near deshaun watson. unless you're an elite/annual pro bowl caliber qb, you're replaceable. it's not hard to understand
@@Perks5 one good season... naw you sir are trippin
They had Case Keemun on the bench the only reason baker played the season was because he and the browns was afraid of Case taken over the Team case closed
It's crazy how Case didn't get a chance.
Exactly
That's completely wrong because the game case came in they barely got 10 points at home. They would rather play an injured baker than Case
@@itsmeflacko1618 The two games Case started they won after the first win Baker rushed right back then the second win was in January like I said bro he knew he was in jeopardy he had 1 lost and that was because he came in midway through a game for baker and the game was already over
Thats why baker played hurt. Case and baker are mirror images. Keenum with a healthy team would have done exactly what baker did
Rob wants Baker respected for winning 1 playoff game but kills Lebron for asking for his respect after winning a championship
No Bubble Laker gets respect for that fraud chip. The weakest chip in pro sports history..... bad comp, bruh.
Lebron should be held to a higher standard .. he calls himself the goat so he should be judged harshly.
Two totally different sports bro
@@greggibson33 Ummmmmm..... the lockout championship isn't weaker?!
@@thegoatofyoutube1787
Yeah yeah
They was pissed this segment I love it....🤣🤣
I’m with Chris
man these two should be the new hosts of First take theyre gold together.
I love when they yell at each other 🤣
Chris proved his point with Tua. If that was Baker in MIA he would’ve been crying the whole time.
I dissagree i hate baker honestly cuz im a rival fan from bmore but honestly the brown suck at everything they do.. they cycle out coaches, GMs, qbs in the 100s its ridiculous..i love seeing it cuz they always end up sucking ass. But baker did gut it out last year.. they let all his targets go ( laundry, and OBJ ...hooper too i think and then just go all kurk cousin on deshawn a guy who might not even suit up for the 22-23 season... and not on a nfl field for damn near 2 seasons at that point...come on how smart is that????? Baker got fucked..but who cares browns suck still!!! Lmfao
And u know that how? Baker hasn't said anything up until today yet let u and the media tell it he's been whining all offseason
@@itsmeflacko1618 he was whining when he sent the "goodbye letter" to the fans....trying to garner sympathy Baker is thrash that's why Cleveland moved on....the girl dumped you ..get over it
Bad point. Because Tua (even though there was rumors about it) never ACTUALLY got replaced. Baker felt like he got the short end of the stick, so let him speak on it.
The second Herbert showed his skill in his rookie campaign, Talk of Tua getting replaced by Watson was on in all the media his whole career never heard a word from him.
Chris put that boi in check at the end lmao
@Ionhia definitely 😂 did
U know Chris was 😡 cuz rob checked him earlier had to get back lol
Thought the title was a click bait. The debate was heated...
This is like listening to a married couple!!😂😂
He has a right to feel disrespected but he had 4 years to prove he’s the guy that can lead them to the championship not just win a playoff game. Teams have always looked to improve the position before baker and after
If Watson wasn’t available who’s the Browns starting QB in 2022?
@@SmartDave60 that hypothetical doesn’t matter. They got their guy
@@SmartDave60 well baker was the back up plan lol
@@raylew833 my point is recognize it was a rare situation where a top five QB was available.
Were the Browns drafting Baker’s replacement?
I’m asking.
@@SmartDave60 I wouldn’t rule it out there was now way baker was playing for them again. More likely they look at other qbs like Matt Ryan or jimmy g with the roster they have
What does being hurt have to do with not seeing open receivers? Or making the wrong decisions? He has the speed of the offensive lineman. Why is he old so much more than every other quarterback that’s mediocre? Couldn’t throw a second half touchdown. Threw interceptions every time with the last possession to win
Browns receiving core was ranked towards the bottom of the league and let's not act like half of interceptions aren't off tip passes
I want to know when has the browns been good for baker to be the reason they bad 😆
Pittsburgh was horrible in that playoff gm any qb could had won that gm
And then he couldn’t deliver when Patrick went out
They lost that game (KC) because of coaching, not Baker.
@@ewilliams1594 He missed key throws and the game was 17-22 the entire 4th quarter. All he had to do was score once and the browns win that game.
@@johnathanross6519 Baker really had a TD but the helmet to helmet made the WR fumble at the 1.
@@skylerjirtle8841 Yes people forgot that he got beat by Chad Henne. And the next year, a fully healthy Baker who played against the horrible early season Chiefs defense, threw an INT in the 4th to lose the game.
I’m on Chris side, nfl is a business 🤷🏾♂️
Cold blooded business
Baker and reps knew that the Browns were going after Watson last March. It is not they decided at the last monent. They planned it for months, Berry said that. It is all about priduction. Thats what NFL is.
@@neilmonisit8781 you no lying either, this ain’t like back in the days. You have players like joe burrows, Justin Herbert & Patrick mahomes who great out the gate and they weren’t first picks in the draft. So why we gotta wait on you baker.
Joe burrow was the first overall pick my bad but he went to the Super Bowl in his second year 🤦🏾♂️
Real talk production lol
Man when rob and skip bayless like someone god damn they can do no wrong 😂
Bro what else you want baker to say? Of course baker is right. Brown saying he is not mature, then go out and get a creep massage enthusiast
So true.
When it's somebody he doesn't like he'll rip them for speaking out. Now that it's Baker he's telling Chris don't tell Baker how to feel. That dude is a walking contradiction.
Been a Browns fan all my 55 years of living and Chris is spot on with his take. Yes I wanted things to workout with BAKER however Watson is more than an UPGRADE!!! Now granted Bakers feelings are his own however be careful Baker as no teams are breaking down doors to sign you. Focus on getting yourself football ready for next season and stay out of the media!!!!
He'll be gone in 3 days if he's released. Why tf would you give assets towards something you know they HAVE to get rid?
Is Watson still an upgrade?
@tosh.0reddy728 so far he hasn't payed off but let's get him healthy. Right now real talk he's insignificant as it's all about these players who are playing. Let's go 1 and 0 this weekend. Keep in touch.
@terrencealston370 So if this type of season from Watson repeats next year, and you guys gave him guaranteed money, is it time to get rid of him?
chris raw and uncut
Love this show.
Omg Baker is not that dude let’s move on plenty of other QBs coming an going smh
He was the #1 overall pick... this is Solely the reason we even talk about baker
We talking about baker cause browns gave baker a taste of his own Medicine. We talking about baker cause baker finally spoke out on how he felt!
Need to fix that swinging mic, dammm they went at it 💪💪💪💪
Baker has the right to be pissed off but he is an employee.. Baker was wrong for playing injured and hurt. He should have sat out.
What? Professional players play through injury. It is a normal sacrifice for the team and teammates. Had he not done it, people would criticize him for that anyway.
@@pedrofior2562 exactly hindsight is 20 20 ppl would've crushed him for not playing
Players are supposed to play through injuries it’s the part of toughness by not being a wuss.
Baker is a grown man and a father. Football is a kids game and he gets paid millions. Man up and roll with the punches. I think skip might have called his boy Rob to put that cape on.
I don't think Rob is Skip's boy because one is the biggest Brady fan boy and the other is Brady's biggest hater.
People still riding the playoff win? Didn’t Big Ben have 5 turnovers 3 or 4 coming in the first qtr that resulted to great field position and easy scores like cmon
The media always switching yo words up. He said he felt disrespected because they told him sumthn. And did sumthn different. He wasn't saying he is sum great quarterback that couldn't be replaced.
That's the point. Everybody can be cut in the NFL. Everybody knows that. The problem is being lied to. Simple.
Got to agree with Rob on this 1. Chris is doing a lot of over talking.he loves to hear himself….thinks he’s right.
Rob does the same thing to Chris
He doesn't do that to his white co hosts on first thing first...
If rob was right how come when he was asked if baker was released would he get a starting job rob folded on the question. Chris bodied Rob 😭😭😭
Yup
Baker was replaced because a top 5 QB was available. Otherwise he keeps his job.
If Baker wasn’t disappointed and feeling disrespected he wouldn’t be a competitor.
@@kingnigey1245 …..he is better than Drew Lock….is Seattle picked him up.
Rob pick and chooses who he applies criticism to. Dak played with a bad throwing shoulder and got criticized by Rob for the end result 2 years ago. Never acknowledged he was playing hurt for weeks
And when brady won against the saints in the playoffs, brees had like 4 ints but cuddle baker for winning when big ben turned it over like crazy
Damn Chris told Rob what’s up. He couldn’t even say anything at the end 😂😂😂
Chris the type of guy that wife cheats on him, he'll look at himself in the mirror crying saying I have to put my big boy pants on. Lol
You sir won the internet 🏆
What does this even mean
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He had for years to prove his worth. He averaged 6 wins in 3/4 seasons. He leads the league in pics what did you expect
And Cleveland the years before won six games total. But Baker takes this too personal, it's all a business move like it.
The Browns were the worst organization in American sports for 30 years/seasons.
Baker gets credit for the browns having one of the best running games and a solid defense.
@@pedrofior2562 so because the Browns were trash for many many yrs ....they should be happy with mediocre and stand pat....that's wat Baker was thinking he had done enough....it's a wat have you done for me lately league
@@jamesjackson2117 exactly! That's what pisses me off. You have guys like Rob, Skip, and Nick saying we should settle because we're the Browns. Nah. Doesn't work like that. Nor would it work for any other fans if their teams were in the same position. The goal is Super Bowl or bust. Period.
Everytime Chris raises his voice 'he already lost the argument'. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just because you yelling don't make you right
Rob Parker Been Wrong His Entire Career
Amen 🙏🏾
Dude, that analogy with the wife upgrade was hmmm. Lol
Rob with the upgrading the wife comparison 🤣 hilarious
Trubisky made the playoffs twice, went 12-4 and won a division that had Rodgers & Adams in it! I'm a Packers fan and don't like trubisky at all but Mayfield did nothing special at all and to me was not disrespected at all! You gotta produce in the NFL! Hell Rodgers is a 4x MVP coming off back 2 back MVP'S and gets Ripped every day for something! COWHERD goes out of his way to criticize Rodgers Every single day! So I don't feel bad for baker at all!
This is SPOT ON 💯
the reason why Rodgers get criticized is because he choke In the biggest moments. he is 0-2 against Jimmy garoppolo 😂💀. like I said the reason why Rodgers made the Superbowl is because Jay cutler got injured he wasn't injured cutler would have beat him & made a Superbowl
Trubisky didn’t do nothing special. His defense carried major. Check his numbers. Baker numbers way better than trubisky
Right
Then the team crumblef
It 's great to see the top of Rob's head when he's not talking.....
Heated
I agree with Rob on this one
One thing I hate about the media they will ask these players a question & then criticize them for being honest & if the players lie they criticize them for that so where do they get a break. Hell yeah if I was Baker I'd be pissed until he stepped through those doors Cleveland went 1-31 has he been great at all times no but it's hard for anyone to be great in his situation. Idc who you put in these last for years that team wasn't going far blaming it all on Baker is weak & when they are the same or worse next year everyone is going to make an excuse for DeShawn that they should've given Baker from jump
Giving baker all the credit isn’t fair either
@@isiahnelsoniv doesn't have to get all the credit but he's the only Qb example since the 90s that actually did something for them
I completely agree with Chris
This was one of the best Odd Couple episodes
I'm with Chris on this.
They don't realize they're both right in a way. I'm seeing both sides easily.
Hurt and Injured is the same thing…. Torn labrum is DEF an injury, and def hurt. Chris is way out of line here.
How is this show not on tv? This is great
The thing is the browns didn’t exactly handle the situation professionally. It’s fine if you wanna upgrade at qb, but the way they handled it was wrong. And they need to release baker so he can find a team instead of leaving him dangling in the wind
Dude arrogant asf tho. All that arrogance is coming back as karma. It would be different if he was actually really good. He is average at best. He ain't no Aaron Rodgers
@@ninobrown3394 I agree. Think he can still be a starter in this league and teams will be interested in him
No they don’t need to do a thing, they wasted a #1 pick on him lease they could do is maybe get some picks back he was a total disappointment no one mentions that he led the league in int since he’s entered the league that’s horrible
@@ianbahamonde6679 well the thing is teams won’t offer anything worth it since they know mayfields time in Cleveland is definitely over
@@jamespappas887 well he’s outta luck I wouldn’t cut him until I got something back he wasted years and so much of the teams money with his garbage ass play and refusal to grow up
Chris, don’t cut off Rob so much, please. This happens too often. 😕
😂
Rob used to do it and slow down and i can see Chris saying I’m getting u back now
I highly recommend this show 🔥🔥
Lol I love the argument
Thank you Chris for always keeping it 💯 facts over feelings. I’m surprised Rob is being so lenient with Baker when clearly his panties are in a bunch. Baker has always been that guy to talk the talk rather than walk the walk. He needs to grow the hell up and just go out there next year and prove the Browns wrong. He was the number one overall pick and so far has not lived up to it.
Chris you are correct on baker he better hope Jerry Jones pick him up in Dallas.
I want my lions to pick up baker mayfield
Y’all going at it today lol
Up early (haven’t been to sleep yet) to get some work done. Y’all got me fired up lol
Rob gotta remember that he knows how to have a debate… he doesn’t actually listen to understand sometimes. Especially if he feel like Chris ain’t making sense to him… all of a sudden he gotta “send a text” or check his phone 😂😂😂😂
He prolly blocking more people
Every time and don’t pay the man attention or respect seems like 😂😂😂😂 i think that’s why Chris be cutting him off more nowadays 😂
Chris my dawg! TELL EM!!!!
Im with Chris on this
Rob is the most hypocritical dude in history lol how u criticize brady for capitalizing off that playoffs game against the saints when Bree’s was a turnover machine but coddle baker for winning a playoff game when pittsburgh turned the ball over like crazy
I had labrum and ac joint repair last aug still doing conditioning
Love this show!
is rob sleeping when he's not talking like wtf? lol
Phone not listening to Chris until the last point 😂
29-32 record as a starter. However the Browns were 1-31 before him.
The browns also didn’t have Nick chubb, Kareem Hunt, and that offensive line before let’s not act like Baker was out there throwing dimes the browns had the best run game and o line.
@@niquaniq8056 True. The Browns have had good skill players in the past. But the QB has been inconsistent. You have to give him is due.
@@ksolo614 I give him his respect that he was able to play within the system but that’s all, Kevin Stefanski helped baker a lot. A lot is still on baker he don’t read coverages good and footwork is terrible . Hell of a arm but not accurate it’s a business he need to move on. Many teams was interested in Watson you don’t hear there qbs doing all this .
Chris said TO took his Super Bowl loss like a man lol .. he spent years blaming McNabb for the loss ..
And Still do 😆 🤣 😂
Exactly
Technically-speaking, he said TO did not make any excuses for his performance. Why must you guys straw-man people though?
@@siliziwencanywa1138 the point is that TO did not take the loss like a man . And he didn’t .
@@thegoatofyoutube1787 Chris' point was not that though. Come on, Bro: let it go. Chris was talking about one thing, and you are talking about another. "Two things can be true!" But that is not what Chris was talking about...
As a browns fan who actually watched every single baker mayfield game. This idea that Baker won a playoff game and he won 11 games and turns the browns around is false. He was a piece but we were a running team and in that playoff game our defense forces like 4 TO and we were running the ball at them it wasn’t like baker carried us on his back. I appreciate his contributions but he did not Turn browns around
Chris is a hothead 🤣🤣🤣
Baker Mayfield feeling like someone owes him something is hilarious lol...dude when that team wins it wins despite you... that roster had enough talent that a real qb would've took them to a bowl
They listen to the full audio but only take a lil piece and run with it
Rob got SM💨KED!😂
Maybe Im missing something, but Rob's energy is weird. Chris seems to be attentive when Rob is speaking, but when Chris is talking Rob disconnects and looks like Russell Westbrook in a post game interview after a loss. I would like to see them in a room together doing the show. I hope I'm wrong... they have the most views of all the other FS1 shows on RUclips.
Because rob acts like a child
He said he felt disrespected because they lied to him. Smh
Baker had a bunch of things go wrong in Cleveland... he did have several coaches and coordinators..coordinator... maybe consistently will help him tremendously
Chris is 100% right.
Baker and his fanboys keep using his injury as an excuse for his bad play.
Big Ben has been playing injured for the past few season, led Pitt to an 11-0 record and made no excuse this past season.
1 playoff win means absolutely nothing.
I don't think chugging too many beers in the offseason counts as an injury
Being old is not an injury
Damn Baker take some responsibility for your bad play bro. Nobody care that you were hurt just say you played bad dude!!
Narcissistic completely
The house coat!!! Rob stays in 1956 with his jokes😂
All that Rob said is that Baker is entitled to feel the way he does. I agree with that. Chris is basically saying that this is business and Baker's production was the main problem, hence why they got Deshaun. Two things can be right at the same time. Yes, Baker did improve Cleveland to a certain point and he was injured but he is not an elite QB and the browns saw an opportunity. Baker is right to feel the way he does but he needs to acknowledge that his production was subpar to average at best..which could be seen as a reason why the coaching staff was in high turnover. But the argument could be made in the reverse. Like the Browns and Baker, both sides need to come to terms that there was mismanagement and poor production, Rob and Chris need to both acknowledge those factors as well.
Rob won this round.. We hate when guys treat the media like Bill Bellichek or Tim Duncan.. Then when guys speak their mind, they get crapped on.
Delusional
love these guys
They're both right, though I agree with Chris more. In most professions when you lose your job you don't make public complaints so that every other potential employer can see how much of a PITA you are. You put your head down, put the work in and try to land that next job. You never trash the previous employer, especially when they did nothing wrong. He really should stop what he's doing and be a professional about this. He's not that good and the only teams that will take him are the ones that can't find someone better, not because they want Baker Mayfield.
As a Steelers fan, I'd say the browns did disrespected baker, and let's not forget you won their first playoffs anyway 20 years, and he can feel whatever he feels or however he feels, and it has nothing to do with Watson.. send bake and sake to the Steelers
The only thing I will say, not all injuries are created equal
Chris is tripping. Baker's relationship with front office is the source of disrespect.
Rob right on this one
What's his record with 4 HCs 2 being Hue Jackson and Freddy K? Where they at now?
The ironic thing is that I believe that he “felt disrespected” when the Browns were talking to Watson, so when they were initially out he tried to play hardball with them when they turned to him (a-la Kyler Murray). He probably thought it would make them increase their offer to him, and instead they upped their offer to Watson.
Watson threw for 33 tds to 8 picks other year and Texans won 4 games. How much better can he do on the browns tbh? I hope you guys realize Watson has to get to a super bowl to validate the move at the very least. They were 1 play away from the AFC championship game with Baker so just getting back to the playoffs ain't gonna cut it
Chris really doesn’t like Baker, never gives him the benefit of the doubt.
What benefit is he supposed to get?
Y’all on a sympathy train. Baker is average at best. Nobody wants him for a reason
@@yungog1286 keep the same energy with Lamar Jackson
Why should he? Mitch in a harder division at the time won division and had 2 postseason appearances and is a pro bowl QB. Mitch also torn his labrum before but Rob making excuses only for BAKER.
@@JK-ho6uv Huh? Stop smoking baker is nowhere near Lamar and I’m a diehard Browns fan.
Summa y’all act like Baker was getting replaced regardless.
A top 5 QB was available.
It was reported that ten teams showed interest in Watson.
Watson is very overrated. You're all gonna see when he starts getting hurt with that glass ankle.
I’m not a baker fans but he has done more for them than the last 20 plus QBs they had over the last 20 years and the browns are a chaotic organization so it’s not a slam dunk that Watson can just fix that all by himself. The need major fundamental organizational changes
Baker" I feel dangerous" lol he was way too cocky. Maybe now he will humble himself.
Baker need a lil more fire, he's got the ability to be a top 10 QB, but he doesn't have the willpower great qbs dig deep for to produce a 'drive'. Sometimes that 1 drive sends a message to the opponents that u not fuckn around.
CB is pretty good at his job cos this is the first time I’ve seen him on the run and flailing like this about hurt vs injury
I honestly think in the long run the Browns will regret the trade. They gave up way too much for Watson.
Man you smoking Baker is 🗑🗑🗑
If watson is the same qb he was before there will be zero regret. That man had brandin cooks and then nothing on his offense and was producing at a top 3 qb level
Chris why is wrong for a guy to express his feelings????