@@kiefermr I'm 6'3" and my brother is 6'6". We both regularly look back and find people had quietly tucked onto our wheels. LOL! My brother is one of the few people I can get a good draft off of.
We've all seen so many kill hank challenges, I think it might be time for a "Hank tries to kill a GCN presenter" challenges. Have Hank delegate challenges to his colleagues and develop crazy rides that have even Si's chunky boy ankles shaking. I'm all in already and here for it.
So much fun and so entertaining! Love you characters both! Hank's strategies won outover disadvantages with bike! Pink hair please! I think Connor is the only one with proper proportions to ride El Alto. Watching Hank pull off fat bike BMX moguls and doing wheeliesm ade it for me!
Running higher than that takes away pretty much all of the advantages a fat bike has, too (I mean 30, not 8 or 9). Running high PSI on a fat bike just means you're reducing your contact patch and small bump compliance, but keeping the heavy wheels and tires. I don't see the point.
Not pink hair Hank, lime green to match the altos colouring scheme. But definitely dying the hair rather than an image of Connor in Y front. I'm still getting therapy for Si previously riding in london with budgy smugglers on!
Good job, fellas. Really enjoyed that 😀 I often wish I could also be doing the riding you get to do, but I don't envy you hurtling down the Batheaston bypass in the fog 🌫😬
I just got a 2023 TREK Farley 9.6 fat tire bike with 27.5" x 4.5" wheels and love it! For summer time riding I'm thinking of building a set of 29" x2.2" wheels for it. Is this a crazy idea? The wheels would have to be custom built because of the 197mm axle on the Farley. This new wheel set would mostly be used for gravel riding on the "skinny bike". Great video !
It astonishes me that it’s legal to ride on a dual carriage way in the UK. It astonishes me even more that you’d do it on a foggy day. Even if it was legal, I wouldn’t do it in any sort of moisture.
Great fun! You tackled the English fog on technical and muddy terrain. You're both winners. Make an accommodation, Connor should dye his hair a nice Irish Green or Orange.
Fun!!! I so appreciate the reminder that, no what you're doing on the bike, it's supposed to be FUN!!! :D Also, who doesn't want to see a giant with PINK HAIR!! :D
Dressed in all black on a dual carriage way, in those weather conditions. At least Conor had a small tail light, but didnt see any on Hank's bike. Be safe out there
Sorry unrelated question, so I was fixing rear rim brakes (v brakes) on a MTB hardtail bike with gripped perfectly on the stand, but when I sat on the bike or put a bit of pressure on the bike seat, the brakes became non existent, what's the problem? (The brakes pads, brake handles and cable are new, the calipers have good recoil and the cable tension is good) Please assist it belongs to a customer
Really enjoyed this as a 4 season titanium single speed fatbike rider I have to say tire pressure is key!!! More pressure in the speed test and Hank could’ve hit 60+ km for sure!! He proved that lowering it on the climb was beneficial too!!! Also tire selection makes a differenc3 those Maxxis Minions FBF and FBR are heavy!!! Put on some Shwalbe 4.0 Jumbo Jim’s and that fatbike would come more Alaina and nimble for sure!!.!! Great stuff 👍👍👍
I have become a fat bike lover! I ride mine year round, on and off road. It is just too much fun! Like you said, tire selection and pressure are very critical to getting the most out of the bike. Maxxis Minions are a great choice for dirt trails, but have too much rolling resistance for pavement. They aren't much good in the sand either. I settled on CST Roly Polys (26x4.8) since I lived in the desert, and soft, deep sand is everywhere. An added bonus is that they have very low rolling resistance, and even at low pressures, make the bike much faster on the road. Now I just need to get my hands on a pair of Vittoria Cannolis...
Ive been debating buying a fat bike. might have to pull the trigger next winter. unless Santa brings one. Id love to see alto with a flat bar. Think if it was a flat bar and better (bigger cog up front) the bmx track would have been his :)
If you've ever tried a fat bike and thought "I don't get it", be aware that there's *so* much tire on a fat bike you can completely transform a bike by using different tires. The difference between the very fastest fat tires on the market and the slowest is twenty watts *per tire*. The difference between the lightest and heaviest is about 500g per tire. A effect of 40 watts and 1000 g of rotational weight is going to be very noticeable. The very fastest 26x4 fat tires roll faster than many gravel tires but they don't offer quite as much ability to conquer sand and snow. The natural impulse is to think, "if fat is good, fatter is better" and go with 4.8 or 5 inch if that will fit, but if you have enough traction and flotation for the ride you're about to do, sacrificing speed and weight for more of those things doesn't help. I think the tires on the fat bike here are an excellent choice for the Mongolian adventure, but for the terrain in this video you could get by with a lighter, faster tire.
GCN harp on about wearing helmets when cycling yet ride on busy dual carriage ways in winter poor visibility dressed in black head to toe with no lighting either. 🤷♂️
I know, right! Yikes...! How about at least a bright top for visibility? Anyhow, it was fun to watch, they made it, and obviously had a blast. Thumbs up.
Even with a fat bike, with those monster wide tires, 26" (I'm guessing) smaller diameter wheels will have better maneuverability, and superior acceleration capabilities to the huge diameter 36" wheeled bike. That big 36" thing is almost like having a penny-farthing with two penny wheels. It was an interesting comparison. Of interest to me would be to have a similar race between the fat bike and a 700c gravel bike.
The fat bike will be slower than a gravel bike. The tires have more rolling resistance (but also way more grip), it's a perfect bike to ride on sand or snow (they come from Alaska) but if you want to be fast you need to reduce rolling resistance. On my commute I need 22 minutes with a bike equipped with road bike tires, but at least 30 minutes with my fat bike
What a silly video... I loved it. It's so nice to see people just having a laugh doing something they love. When you say pink hair, are we talking bleaching & permanent pink or one day wash out pink? Either way, there is no need to show us Connor in his pants!
No matter who won, what really came across is that riding bikes, any bikes, with your mates is a laugh. Honestly, these two could make a video racing a Pennyfarthing against a recumbent and it would look fun
Wouldn't the more fair test be the fat bike being on more slicker tires, like the Black Floyds from Surly? Cause those tires surely slowing it down a bit on the speed run. Also isn't 30psi a bit too high for fat bike tires? Most of the fat bike riders I know are at under 15psi on the road.
30 Psi are dangerous for the rims. The forces on the rims are far higher, since the huge sidewall has a lot of surface. I never put more than 1 bar/15 Psi in my 4, 7 inch tires for roads
Except when it's just Conor and El Alto by themselves - then it all looks perfectly normal. I'm still trying to figure out how Hank managed to ride it.
Indeed, 30 Psi can damage the rim over a longer period, since the forces on the rim are high due to the huge sidewall. 15 Psi is typically sufficient on roads
Which would you rather have? 🤔
I would love to try a 36er. Don't think it's going to catch on though, and I already have a 29x3" that is getting hard to find tires for.
Fat bike for sure. I love the trails so that looks like it would be fun
I already have a fat bik, and it's great
Easily the fattie. There's snow on the ground for 4 months of the year here.
I have the canyon dude and love it!
So nice seeing a dad having a great ol time with his son. Warms the heart.
LOL!
Connor's an Irish giant
you didn't 🤣
I thought the same thing 😂😂
Or a grown up taking his little brother on adventure... 😂
The 36” wheel bike actually looks the correct size for Conor.
Because he‘s 7‘2 …?! 😂
Proofing that Connor is the perfect man for a lead-out train. Even Hank on a fatbike can easily hide behind him.
What a team mate he would be 🙌
This checks out. I’m not quite Connor height (I clock in at 6’5”/~196cm) and my riding buddies all say riding behind me is like drafting a billboard.
Connor truly a freak of nature
@@kiefermr I'm 6'3" and my brother is 6'6". We both regularly look back and find people had quietly tucked onto our wheels. LOL! My brother is one of the few people I can get a good draft off of.
@@kiefermr According to the GCN website, Conor is 6’8”.
Hank is like alcohol, when you get him in the mix things get crazy 😅✌️. Good to see “El Alto” again Conor
We've all seen so many kill hank challenges, I think it might be time for a "Hank tries to kill a GCN presenter" challenges. Have Hank delegate challenges to his colleagues and develop crazy rides that have even Si's chunky boy ankles shaking. I'm all in already and here for it.
Sounds like a great idea! Not sure the presenters would be so excited 😅
@@gcn that is what makes it so fun!😇
Now this was brilliant. The natural chemistry you guys have is awesome. For sure pink hair for connor!!!!
I totally enjoyed the camaraderie of Hank and Conor in this totally fun challenge. Thanks guys for the smiles as always!!!
I’d love to see Connor taking El Alto on an epic ride. Something like the Southdowns Way.
Jesse sure grew up fast 😄😄
So much fun and so entertaining! Love you characters both! Hank's strategies won outover disadvantages with bike! Pink hair please! I think Connor is the only one with proper proportions to ride El Alto. Watching Hank pull off fat bike BMX moguls and doing wheeliesm ade it for me!
I'm confused. Did he say he was lowering the fat bike's tires to *30* PSI?
That's 20 too high at least.
Yeah, the tyres are only rated to 20 PSI, I run mine at about 8 or 9.
Running higher than that takes away pretty much all of the advantages a fat bike has, too (I mean 30, not 8 or 9).
Running high PSI on a fat bike just means you're reducing your contact patch and small bump compliance, but keeping the heavy wheels and tires. I don't see the point.
Not pink hair Hank, lime green to match the altos colouring scheme. But definitely dying the hair rather than an image of Connor in Y front. I'm still getting therapy for Si previously riding in london with budgy smugglers on!
Hank’s descent (ascent?!) into the grubby world of mountain biking continues…😂
Now THAT really was a fun video... it's so good to see how much fun you had. I.m.h.o. Fatbikes are very much underappreciated here in Europe.
The longer distance camera shots make Connor on El Alto and Hank on a regular bike look like a dad and their kid out for a ride. Lol!
Good job, fellas. Really enjoyed that 😀 I often wish I could also be doing the riding you get to do, but I don't envy you hurtling down the Batheaston bypass in the fog 🌫😬
At 8:29, that image of Connor on El Alto with Hank on a fat bike looks like a father taking his rowdy son out for a ride.
Pink it is!
(still have to note: going on a motorway in a huge fog is not the best idea ever)
I just got a 2023 TREK Farley 9.6 fat tire bike with 27.5" x 4.5" wheels and love it! For summer time riding I'm thinking of building a set of 29" x2.2" wheels for it. Is this a crazy idea? The wheels would have to be custom built because of the 197mm axle on the Farley. This new wheel set would mostly be used for gravel riding on the "skinny bike". Great video !
You'd be better asking that on GMBN Tech
How lovely to follow up the kids bike video with this family adventure where Connor takes Jessie out on a ride with his balance bike. 🥰
This was AWESOME!!! Well done Gents!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
tirepressure in winter is around 4 psi in soft snow on my fat bike
hank's training arc with gmbn really paid off on that bmx course
It astonishes me that it’s legal to ride on a dual carriage way in the UK. It astonishes me even more that you’d do it on a foggy day. Even if it was legal, I wouldn’t do it in any sort of moisture.
Yeah they can be quite dodgy! Very popular with TT riders though
Great fun! You tackled the English fog on technical and muddy terrain. You're both winners. Make an accommodation, Connor should dye his hair a nice Irish Green or Orange.
Nice bit of freezing fog to spice the whole thing up. Gotta luv the UK in December !
Fun!!! I so appreciate the reminder that, no what you're doing on the bike, it's supposed to be FUN!!! :D Also, who doesn't want to see a giant with PINK HAIR!! :D
Two big kids having fun. Love it.
That's what bikes do to you🙌
Hank looks so small looking up at Connor, so sweet :)
Dressed in all black on a dual carriage way, in those weather conditions. At least Conor had a small tail light, but didnt see any on Hank's bike. Be safe out there
I wonder if Conor used to live commentate his races when he was a pro in the same way he does now?! And I vote for pink hair!
Lets go down a dual carriageway on a foggy morning in black clothing with no lights!
They had rear lights.
Sorry unrelated question, so I was fixing rear rim brakes (v brakes) on a MTB hardtail bike with gripped perfectly on the stand, but when I sat on the bike or put a bit of pressure on the bike seat, the brakes became non existent, what's the problem? (The brakes pads, brake handles and cable are new, the calipers have good recoil and the cable tension is good) Please assist it belongs to a customer
Pink hair for sure, great video
,always a grin with Hank and Conor going head to head
I RECOMMEND ANYONE TRY A FAT TIRE BIKE ESPECIALLY OFF ROAD IT S LIKE AN ATV WITH PEDALS , I FELT LIKE A KID AGAIN
Brilliant, you should do more of these. Challenge Hank could be a new series. Dye his hair pink
I think Connor should dye his hair green! 🍀
Green Irish Giant on el Alto! 😂
Connor with Pink hair would make my day
Great video. Lots of fun. Pink…
Lot's of up voted for Pink 🙌
Welcome to the GMBN Show!
The GMBN tech team did a run down on this big wheeled monster 👉 ruclips.net/video/LzwD9ScnOCc/видео.html
I don't think I'm altering the situation at all by also voting for Conor dying his hair! Maybe a rainbow pattern?
One go down a black run and Hank's all hi 5's 😀
You are both amazing !!! Cannot stop laughing 🤣
Really enjoyed this as a 4 season titanium single speed fatbike rider I have to say tire pressure is key!!! More pressure in the speed test and Hank could’ve hit 60+ km for sure!! He proved that lowering it on the climb was beneficial too!!! Also tire selection makes a differenc3 those Maxxis Minions FBF and FBR are heavy!!! Put on some Shwalbe 4.0 Jumbo Jim’s and that fatbike would come more Alaina and nimble for sure!!.!! Great stuff 👍👍👍
I have become a fat bike lover! I ride mine year round, on and off road. It is just too much fun!
Like you said, tire selection and pressure are very critical to getting the most out of the bike. Maxxis Minions are a great choice for dirt trails, but have too much rolling resistance for pavement. They aren't much good in the sand either. I settled on CST Roly Polys (26x4.8) since I lived in the desert, and soft, deep sand is everywhere. An added bonus is that they have very low rolling resistance, and even at low pressures, make the bike much faster on the road. Now I just need to get my hands on a pair of Vittoria Cannolis...
Gandalf and Bilbo Baggins on bicycles! 😋
that van drafting behind Conor!
Hank!!! 30 psi on a fatbike. Dude you should run about 8!
My wife always told me size didn't matter until I got home with our new TV.
This was awesome , it looked like so much fun, epic racing
It was a very fun day out 🙌
Ive been debating buying a fat bike. might have to pull the trigger next winter. unless Santa brings one. Id love to see alto with a flat bar. Think if it was a flat bar and better (bigger cog up front) the bmx track would have been his :)
Fat bikes are fun. Just dont get the cheapest one on Amazon though. There's a Sam Pilgrim test on one. Painful.
GMBN did a video with flat bar on the Alto! :)
If Dan can shave his head, surely Connor can wear pink hair
That's a lot of very heavy breathing for Conor.... 🤣
Hank pushed him to the limit on this one 🥵
If you've ever tried a fat bike and thought "I don't get it", be aware that there's *so* much tire on a fat bike you can completely transform a bike by using different tires. The difference between the very fastest fat tires on the market and the slowest is twenty watts *per tire*. The difference between the lightest and heaviest is about 500g per tire. A effect of 40 watts and 1000 g of rotational weight is going to be very noticeable. The very fastest 26x4 fat tires roll faster than many gravel tires but they don't offer quite as much ability to conquer sand and snow.
The natural impulse is to think, "if fat is good, fatter is better" and go with 4.8 or 5 inch if that will fit, but if you have enough traction and flotation for the ride you're about to do, sacrificing speed and weight for more of those things doesn't help. I think the tires on the fat bike here are an excellent choice for the Mongolian adventure, but for the terrain in this video you could get by with a lighter, faster tire.
Great video!! Absolutely Connor should dye his hair pink 🤣
What about green hair for Conor?
Mate did you say 30 psi in a fat bike? The max that should ever be in there is like 15 psi
And if you want climbing traction it will be a lot less than 15psi
Pink Hair! Perfect for Christmas
James and the giant...
What a blast!
I am a big fan of the fatbikes. Thanks for showcasing them
They are great fun!
Loved the Hank & Conner Big Wheels Challenge !!! Sorry Conner but I’d really love to see you not only dying your hair pink but I think a nice Pink kit would look awesome on you too. My vote is PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK, PINK
That's a lot of pink 😮
Looks like great fun riding here is very cold an icy but indoor training is cool til we ride again no to pink hair days
Pink hair-YES
I would love to try El Alto, but I am having a hard time imagining what it would be like with a 53cm seat tube...
Pink Mohican for Conor! He'll be even taller!
Fat Bikes Rule! Well good boys, I loved this one. Great stuff gents! Pink Hair Brother!
GCN harp on about wearing helmets when cycling yet ride on busy dual carriage ways in winter poor visibility dressed in black head to toe with no lighting either. 🤷♂️
I know, right! Yikes...! How about at least a bright top for visibility? Anyhow, it was fun to watch, they made it, and obviously had a blast. Thumbs up.
They had a back light
Pink hair please! 😂 and a great, fun video!!
Drat 😂 hilarious. Love GCN. Pink hair please
Definitely pink hair
Even with a fat bike, with those monster wide tires, 26" (I'm guessing) smaller diameter wheels will have better maneuverability, and superior acceleration capabilities to the huge diameter 36" wheeled bike. That big 36" thing is almost like having a penny-farthing with two penny wheels. It was an interesting comparison. Of interest to me would be to have a similar race between the fat bike and a 700c gravel bike.
The fat bike will be slower than a gravel bike. The tires have more rolling resistance (but also way more grip), it's a perfect bike to ride on sand or snow (they come from Alaska) but if you want to be fast you need to reduce rolling resistance.
On my commute I need 22 minutes with a bike equipped with road bike tires, but at least 30 minutes with my fat bike
I think Conor might need to go on a training plan listening to him trying to breathe after the circuit race 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm the personification of both bikes: Fat Monster.
Conor, take El Alto out for bikepacking trip!
What a silly video... I loved it. It's so nice to see people just having a laugh doing something they love. When you say pink hair, are we talking bleaching & permanent pink or one day wash out pink? Either way, there is no need to show us Connor in his pants!
Nice Job 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤗
Love how el alto’s rims stay brilliantly green even through the mucky muck.
Pink hair! (like that saxophone guy)
50 MPH zone and measuring in KM? Seems ???? Why not keep the speed measurement the same?
Pink hair would be funny, but a cold swim would really get a laugh
Pink Hair, Otherwise we'll be scarred for life by the jolly green giant.
I vote for pink too
Pink hair, absolutely!
According to my bank account, the only place my fatbike is taking me is to work.
We need El Alto every couple months...
The same horrible foggy weather as here. Can you please send me a Connor and a Hank to lift the spirits?
Hank is always a good motivator 🙌
No matter who won, what really came across is that riding bikes, any bikes, with your mates is a laugh. Honestly, these two could make a video racing a Pennyfarthing against a recumbent and it would look fun
Wouldn't the more fair test be the fat bike being on more slicker tires, like the Black Floyds from Surly? Cause those tires surely slowing it down a bit on the speed run. Also isn't 30psi a bit too high for fat bike tires? Most of the fat bike riders I know are at under 15psi on the road.
30 Psi are dangerous for the rims. The forces on the rims are far higher, since the huge sidewall has a lot of surface. I never put more than 1 bar/15 Psi in my 4, 7 inch tires for roads
GCN goes for a mud bath GMBN style 😁
How old did you say these two are? 😋
The lines are blurring 👀 Should we get the GMBN team involved?
@@gcn I believe it's high time you did another stunt together, yes 😉
@@gcn It's high time, mates! High time!
Pink, Bright Green. Either way just dye it!
Two of my favorite bikes! Difficult to chose between them.
Did you catch Conor riding the Fat bike in Mongolia? 👉 gcn.eu/Mongolia
Lol, such a bromance
Pink Hair for sure!!
Dye his hair pink for sure 😂😂😂😂
pink hair for Connor!
Connor: "oh gosh, I forgot how big this thing is." so easy to take that out of context...
I want to know what camera guys are on?!!!
This Monster bike is so ridiculously out of this world….
It's a beast! 😬
Except when it's just Conor and El Alto by themselves - then it all looks perfectly normal. I'm still trying to figure out how Hank managed to ride it.
30 psi is way too much pressure on a fat bike. He should have been running it at 15-20 psi all the time or lower.
Indeed, 30 Psi can damage the rim over a longer period, since the forces on the rim are high due to the huge sidewall. 15 Psi is typically sufficient on roads
GCN going into GMBN territory 🤣
Got to be pink hair though with the length of his legs won’t that make Connor a flamingo!
Fat Monster next!