Hunter PGP Rotor vs Rainbird 5000 Rotor
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2019
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This video compares the Hunter PGP Ultra rotor with the Rainbird 5000 rotor.
Chris discusses the strengths and weaknesses of each rotor, the methods used to set them and the video announces smartirrigation.com's pick of #1 rotor.
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I am so glad you replied back. I will tap some other source. Thanks again.
Any time!
I like this guy - funny, entertaining and informative. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you sir! Very helpful
Our pleasure, Sir!
thanks for the video
You bet!
The slip clutch is an installation feature not a maintenance feature and I am surprised there was no discussion of seal performance?
Seal performance on these PGP's is a real issue. Seals are often failing in less than a year. Currently trying the Rain Bird and K-Rain K2 Pro to see if seals will be more reliable.
Thank you for great info. What is the average cost for the Hunter ultra
$20 usd
One thing I would say is that the hunter uses a set screw to control nozzle diffusion and the head of the set screw often clogs up with dirt making it very difficult to adjust. The rainbird doesn’t have that issue and remains easy to adjust even after several years of use.
Yes, good point. We use a straightened paperclip to clean out the set screw when needed.
Observed this today with a head that is about 5 years old. Peeled the rubber back and used a pick to clean it out until I could remove and replace the set screw.
I much prefer the Rainbird over the Hunter. The close in spray of the Rainbird is far superior to any other rotor out there.
@Damian Israel Yup, I've been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D
We're hoping to to a distribution uniformity test soon!
As a home owner I installed my own system and used all Hunter head, other than cleaning one or two heads they all lasted 20 years before I had to replace any of them & when I did all I had to do is screw out the guts & replace just the internals.
Yup, they are great products!
I prefer the rainbird 5000 over the hunter.... Over 35 years in the industry and rainbird never let me down.
Hunter is better quality than rain bird.
Thanks for the input. Why do you prefer rainbird?
I use all Hunter products:
Zone 1… Front yard: hunter PGP Ultras
Zone 2… Left side yard: hunter pro spray PRS40 with hunter MP3000
Zone 3… Right side yard: hunter pro spray PRS40 with hunter MP3500
Zone 4… Back yard: hunter I-20 (stainless steel riser)
That sounds like a great setup, and we really like the MP rotators too (hopefully we'll do a full review on them soon). The 3500 are quite the beasts hey? Unfortunately we don't get to use them much because they actually often take more water than a rotor and so we can only often use them in systems fed by 1.25" or larger supply lines. Thanks for dropping by
Very helpful
Glad to hear that
I use the rainbird 5004 plus for heads i want shutoff. Their seals do last longer. I use the pgp-04-check which is an ultra with a weaker pgp spring because a large portion of my customers have low pressure and it universally solves that problem yet they still have a check valve and can do full circle. The hunter ultras can also be adjusted with the rainbird tool when they get older which makes them easier to adjust with age. Rainbird customer service is not near as good as hunter so i switched to as much hunter as possible.
Thanks for watching and the feedback! We'll definitely look at going more into depth on some of these topics in the future. Keep an eye out!
Hunter pgp ultra is a good rotor. I use thread seal tape on the cannister where the body screws into it so it doesnt leak from the seal down the road.
That's a good idea. We normally don't have issues with that seal as much as the seal around the extending riser, but that would definitely help in that circumstance!
I am a coffee grower from India. My plants are spaced 8*8 ft and the height of each plant is about 6 ft. Now I am using overhead impact Skipper jet placed on a vertical GI pipe of 10ft. Which is very difficult to shift. Hence KINDLY suggest some alternative sprinkler system. Regards.
There are a lot of design possibilities there that all depend on site specifics. Hopefully a local irrigation expert can help you, or maybe in the future we can look at doing some design videos!
I just hate Rainbird’s plastic white screws for swivel adjustment because it always strips off.
Yes, caution is needed, especially if dirt gets lodged in there, but that can sometimes be rinsed out with water
So i have the rain 5000 with the 2 gallon per minutes head. So I let them run about an hour in a certain zone. They ran and only got .2 inches of water in an hour is that normal??
No it is not.. get empty tuna can and actually measure output in the can.
Works for me to adjust nozzles.
In an hour!? You should never need to run that long that's nuts! Switch to at least 3.0 Blue nozzle, put plastic bowls, tuna can, rain Guage anything you have to catch water while they run. 17-20 mins should be getting you at least a half inch. If not go bigger. Buy a multi pack of different nozzles. The bigger the nozzle the less pressure coming out so you may have to adjust the screw on top of nozzle opening to achieve the same distance of spray
@@dh4094 It depends on the arc of the Rotor. Ex. A full circle head puts down the same amount of water in 60 min (inches per hour) as a 1/4 circle (90 degrees) does in 15 minutes so I don't worry about how long it takes. Even coverage is the 1st priority. Check out our article "Watering Times & Schedule" for more info. But yes I agree .2 inches of water in an hour does seem strange and a larger nozzle is good advice if the system has extra flow available before the pressure is adversely affected.
I use the hunter i 20's , all of my rainbird heads have been replaced
The hunter I20s are great heads as well, very similar to the PGP Ultras. Glad you like them!
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If you’re going to do informational video. Why don’t you know about the blue nozzles. I20 nozzles. Also ratcheting will break pgp eventually.
This video covers the PGP Ultra rotor and nozzles it comes with. Good point however, the Hunter I-20 nozzles are compatible with the PGP Ultra.
We have been using the ratcheting method for over 25 years and have not had one PGP break as a result. Yes, if used often this would probably become an issue but the PGP keeps it's settings for a long time so setting is only needed a few times a decade in my experience.
@@SmartIrrigation1 I sell them and do returns. The nozzles are I20 nozzles. Just cause you abuse your rotors and haven’t ruined one yet. Doesn’t mean you should tell others to do it. The manufacturer disagrees with you.
As far as nozzles go, the PGP Ultras and I-20s actually come with the same nozzles. Specifically, the Hunter PGPs can use the red nozzles (P/N 130900) or the blue nozzles (P/N 665300), whereas the PGP Ultras in this video use the blue nozzles or low angle grey nozzles (P/N 782900). The I-20s also come with these same 782900 nozzles. Maybe we will look at doing a future video on the I-20s, thanks for the idea.
And you are definitely correct that our right-stop adjustment method isn't advocated by the manufacturers. But in our field experience we have never had an issue with that ratchet mechanism (not to be confused with the gearing inside the rotor head! Do NOT turn the rotor head past its stop) and that a PGP will need to be replaced for other reasons (seal issues, gearing, rocks, etc) long before the ratchet mechanism "breaks" using this method of setting. We will try to make that particularly clear in any future videos.
However, if you have ever run across a "flaky" PGP, where its right stop changes each time it pops up because of this worn out ratchet mechanism, we would be very interested in seeing that and would definitely take that into consideration, since we are always trying to learn!
Thanks for the fun debate!
It's the PG Ultra
Hunter PGP Ultra
I couldn’t tell who won!!! Wow super low energy mister-- you sound like you need to take a nap-- I’m sorry but it’s my honest feedback
Thanks for watching, hopefully we can bring up the energy on some future videos for you!