Spoon Sports rear trailing arm bushing install on my DC2! Honest overview w/lessons learned
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024
- The Spoon RTAB's have made a phenomenal change in the Integra's handling. I just wish I would have bought a press prior to installing these. Despite what many how-to videos said, hammering them in was less than ideal and resulted in some compromises.
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Steve / @brickhouse.spl - Авто/Мото
Bro we’ve all been there frustrated and just ready to throw tools across the yard 🤦♂️… glad you got it done and riding again
Haha, for sure! Thanks man. A few things definitely got a frustrated hit with the hammer before the job was done. haha
Oh boy did I feel your frustration!! Your music was spot on in the video, especially your morning music after your shxt day, it had me rolling🤣! Love seeing everything coming together for you.
Hahaha, glad someone appreciated it. I literally googled, "looney tunes morning music" to find it. haha
This video is awesome. The tone change as the frustration set in, and the appropriate music as you just went from tapping in that bushing, to just wailing on it. I have done this job twice, and I can relate to the feeling. I think I decided to grind down the edge (chamfer) a lot sooner than you did. You have more patience than I do. I love how people just say, "hammer it in". It's so funny to me, because I seriously went to TOWN with a big hammer just to get these things installed. I dealt with the same back and forth of these things seemingly being seated, and just popping right out. I paid $45USD on another set of these to just have someone press them in. Saves a ton of actual work time, but the pick-up and drop-off adds time to the overall job. Glad you got them installed. And I don't look forward to doing this job on my DC2 or the new CRX. I may just go with the Energy Suspension, so you don't have to do that aggressive hammering, since they are inserts.
You know the pain and frustration!! I think an aggressive chamfer from the start is a must and then a full size press. I won't hammer another set (I say that now, haha). Online some people said a smaller 12ton press could do it and some were saying 20ton. I want to do other bushings and bearings so I'll probably breakdown and buy the 20t at some point. They just take so much floor space for an every now and then tool. Rhys commented and said he uses the Whiteline RTA bushings. Not sure if they fit CRX, but they looks like they're much much easier to use while still being poly of some sort and pretty darn cheap.
Only bushings can get a person that mad. But as we’ve come to learn you never give up! Great job homie!
Hahaha, truer words were never spoken. I've never said and have never heard anyone say, "man, I love swapping bushings." It's always a task. Thanks man!
@@BRICKHOUSESPL also it was great to see the return of Chassis Black. Looking forward to some videos on you enjoying the car next
@@martindeoliveira5128 enjoying it is definitely the plan...at least until shaken expires in October and then I'll figure out what to do. Crazy to think it's almost been two years already!
You don’t seem like the quitting type but please keep on with the Integra content. I live for your videos!
Oh wow, thank you! That's an amazing compliment! More to come for sure. I'm just happy "major" work is kind of done for a while. I've got a list of annoying things I want to address now that I've been driving it a bit.
Glad you didn’t give up! Integra is looking great!
Definitely learned my lesson - just buy a press and do it the right/easy way the first time! haha Thank you! Little by little it's coming back.
I live in one of those rust-prone areas, and the thing you said about the toe adjustment nut happened to me when I refreshed my suspension a couple years ago. That bolt was seized in the control arm bushing so I had to cut the bolt with a sawzall to get the arm out. The sheet metal got deformed enough while I was trying to remove the bolt that the little sliding nut fell out into that pocket. I had to cut a hole in the bottom to get at it and then had a shop weld some metal over the hole. This video sure brings back some memories, haha!
Oh man, and here I am complaining about the bushing and the bushing became the least of your worries! That sucks man. I'm happy to be away from that kind of climate - being from Nebraska, I'm all to familiar with the fun that rust can create.
Holy cow man. What a day. Thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching! Lesson learned the hard way. Don't do it that way. Hopefully save some other people some pain as well. haha
I'm just watching this video...yeah man. It happens and see the metal music crushed it!!!
Success!!!
The struggle for those bushings are real😅 glad you make it
It was touch and go. Almost gave up! Glad it's done and certainly don't want to do them again. Sheesh.
Always hype when you release a video, severely under-watched channel in my opinion. Glad you got the bushing kit installed! Hopefully next time around it will be simpler with the use of a press or the tips others have suggested that I can +1 recommend :)
Wow, thank you! That means a lot. The channel keeps growing bit by bit and that feels good. I enjoy it finding the people who really care like yourself - they're the best motivation.
Damn Steve! I felt every bit of that pain man! Glad you got it worked out and proud of your determination! She lookin’ good good!
Hahaha, it was touch and go for a while. Who knew RTAB's required such mental fortitude as well. haha I just totally underestimated the job and got my butt kicked.
Great work bro! Loved the edits/music and sooooo relatable. Particularly the bleeps. SMH Glad you pushed through and made it to Nikko Circuit. Makes me miss my Integra btw.
Thank you! Glad it was an enjoyable watch. The Integra has thrown me a few curveballs but this might have been the biggest...and it was self induced! haha
I totally share your frustration. Every time I work on my car I run into similar issues and then the car winds up sitting. As for this issue, perhaps a bit of heat might have helped a bit. But then again, since the weather has been cold, heating up parts has been a challenge too.
The one nice thing about needing the car is it forces you to finish! Haha. I think if it was a regular project, I might have called it quits for the day and not pushed on. So I guess there is some silver lining of putting yourself in a pinch.
Great video man! Can´t wait for more :D
Thank you! So excited to do work out some kinks instead of major fixes for a while. haha
Pop the next bushing you do in the freezer overnight or for a couple hours at least, it'll make it a little easier. Also yeah like you said get a hydraulic press.
Press for sure. Won't do them like this again. haha. I put one in the freezer for a couple hours and it didn't help at all. Maybe if you were using a press and had the arm in position so the cold bushing was ready to set in place and then press...then it might help. But with me holding the sleeve while hammering, it just seemed like it warmed up too quickly to be of any benefit.
I've never heard of clocking the RTAB on a lowered car, but it does make a lot of sense. Will have to try that next time we do a set on a lowered Honda (we have lots of them planned this year lol)
Heck yeah! Giving the people what they want! All the Honda builds. Haha. Clocking could be totally unnecessary and just one of those internet arguments that live forever (like such classics as "What brand oil filter should I use?" or "What weight oil do I need?), but yeah, to me it made sense after hearing about it.
21:01 I know the feeling. 33:35 Congrats.
This one was an emotional roller coaster! haha. Thank you and thanks for watching!
I totally felt your frustration and despair sir, have been there before. Bit off more than I could chew a few times. Sky darkens and your family is inside thinking, "what's daddy doing under the car?"....but that sweet sense of satisfaction when it finally comes together...kind of makes it worth it? I don't know cos i sold my deathtrap a few weeks later 😂 (sale info was 100% transparent)
Hahaha, yeah, 100%. Makes finishing the job much more rewarding and confidence building for the next time. This one just totally caught me off guard. Haha
If you're up front with the condition, then you're in the clear. People have a good way of "making things shiny" when they want something and sort of ignoring the bad points even though it's made clear. Guilty of that myself...case in point, the DC2. Hahaha
Man! I just did all bushigs on my db8r w/ Spoon and I can't imagine doing all that without a press! You end up destroying parts trying to make em go in straight.
Yeah, not the right choice for sure. I wouldn't try any of the other ones with a hammer but I heard and saw people "just hammer them in" for the RRABs so I thought what the heck, I'll try. Not again. Haha
You need the tool. So much easier, and can be done with the trailing arm on the car, instead of removing like you did. All good you got them done!!
The on-car tool looks really handy. It's pretty cheap on Amazon in America but like double or more the price here so I just couldn't justify it since it's a one time tool. That and half of the reviews on the cheaper ones were saying the clamp arms broke or it just didn't work. I got sketched out. haha. The plan was to buy a full size press to do them but just ran out of time before I was ready to drop the money on one. But yeah, all done now thank goodness!
I DONE MINE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AT FIRST TRIED THE HAMMER METHOD TO GET NEW BUSHING IN GOT FRUSTRATED AND BOUGHT THE TOOL FROM AMAZON. THE TOOL IS A TIME SAVER.
I wish I would have tried to tool but decided to be cheap. The tool or a proper press will be how I do it next time for sure.
Every bushing kit I do on a customers golden era Honda, I only use the Whiteline Quickchange RTA bushings. Period.
I can certainly see why! These were a bear.
Also have to do this job.. not looking forward to it, also can try freezing the bush before trying to press it in.
I would chamfer and press it. I think that's the combo for these.
I doubt you could have pressed them in with the arms still on the car. I have to do mine soon too
How come not grease man? You went in dry? Also should have frozen it for 2 days?
Grease crossed my mind but I thought it was best not to use it since it's a non-moving part that's friction fit. Maybe it wouldn't have caused an issue? I put one in the freezer for a few hours but the metal sleeve is so thin that it seemed like it warmed up from handling it before it had a chance to help at all. Like maybe if you were using a press and had the arm all in position so all you had to do was put the cold bushing in place and press it, then it might help.
@BRICKHOUSESPL sometimes you can just use engine oil. Its thinner and will help.... but yeah overnight for sure... few hours might not bee enough.... but you bashed it and got it in.....
Is there anything car related happening in Osaka between 14th and 23rd of May 2024?
I've a family holiday planned and as a car enthusiast I'd like to see something car related in what will probably be my only time in Japan.
Even if in Nogoya I suppose I could take a train.
I've got a smaller lesser known RUclips channel.
I'm not really sure but you can check this site. It's usually updated/finalized a month or two before the events. Certainly not everything going on but a starting point. dupcar-event.com/event/
Does Japan have a Harbor Freight equivalent? Now that you have a larger place you should invest in a small press, especially if you plan to restore the rest of the suspension and hubs etc.
Yeah, it's called Astro Products here. It's cheaper than most tools but it's not America cheap. I always was planning on buying one but wanted to wait until after the move so I had room for it...then just sort of ran out of time before I could make peace with spending the money. It's definitely on the tools list though.
@@BRICKHOUSESPL We take things for granted here in the US. Between facebook marketplace and so many vendors direct shipping we can get things so cheap. I am jealous and happy that I don't live in Japan. I am restoring an EG hatch and the temptation to buy oem would be too much. Honda Japan still carries a lot of parts that the US has discontinued.
@@nismospek That's very true - trying to find things here some times can be a challenge. That's honestly why I've used OEM Honda items so much on the car - it's easy to get and not terribly priced.
The teg has come along way since the early vids , random question for you do you know team mouse the 86 guys do they have any social media or channels looking for more info about them and the cars
Thanks, yeah, it's been quite the mission bringing this thing back to life.
I did a quick look on IG and it looks like @pofupofuo is a member. I'm sure if you search his posts other members will be tagged or search #teammouse. I'm not sure of any youtube channels.
@@BRICKHOUSESPL thanks a lot will have a look at that 🍻🍻
Hi, do you know where you can get the rear abs sensors? I know you cant get oem anymore but do you know of a pattern part? Thanks.
Hope you got it sorted out by now but yahoo auctions is usually where I turn for anything that's discontinued. There isn't a big aftermarket OEM equivalent parts market here so that usually means trying to find one used. If you're in America I would imagine Rock Auto or any parts store would have generic branded ABS sensors.
A bit late to the show but you could have heated up the metal subframe and freeze the bushing then they would go in easier.
I tried that a bit. Maybe wasn't long enough but also I don't know if there's that much movement since it's mainly a big rubber bushing. Freezing normally works with solid aluminum inserts that would expand or contract at a constant rate, but the metal sleeves on these were such a tight fit I'm not sure if anything but a proper press would really do the job.
Wow, Steven, i'll see you first time that angry 😀😀 black? I tought you still have silver paint😮😅😅 joking, still remember
Hahaha, yeah, super frustrating! I'm going to have to find a reason to paint something silver. Haha It feels good to have them painted and looking fresh now!
lmao bruuuutal dude!
Some people make how-to videos...this is a how-not-to. haha. I take the L for believing the internet on this one.
what a mess hahaha