Honestly i don't why but i think that TSM is the place where good players go to get money and die. They had amazing players for years and they usually perform well in NA but they never perform well internationally. Which is really weird because they often had world champions and other great players in the team.
Remember I think 2 years ago when TSM brought in yellow star? They only just made playoffs not playing great in the regular season, but really picked up in the playoffs. That was when immortals just dominated every team in the regular season with only 1 loss. I see TL as immortals now, and TSM as when they first brought in yellow star. It'll take some time for them to settle.
Feels like Riot is forcing Jatt and especially Kobe to say BO1 is better. It's better for viewers (supposedly). But I still think BO3 was the superior format.
Obviously I haven't heard a single rioter talk bad about it, they act like it the next big thing. Bo1 suck and the bs reason omg "we are giving them practice for groups in msi/group". Why are the eastern teams not practicing for bo1s
i mean kobe and jatt are not players and while bo3 gives your team a fair shot at showing off, it was kind of boring when the teams arent evenly skilled, bo3/5s like KT vs SKT or the BO5 skt vs rox in the semi final are very exciting and fun to watch but u also gotta commit to it, cant just zap in for an hour before doing something else , so u might as well just not zap in at all as u wont get the result anyway. bo3/5 are imo a lot better for very important stuff like play offs and for the usual lcs i prefer bo1 as it is less of a time commitment and boring matchups dont take ages
But they literally just explained in this or that why bo3 is better competitively, the only thing they said about bo1 is that it was more enjoyable to watch
Am I the only person in the comments who likes best of 1 better? To me it's nice because I get to actually watch all the games now. Maybe to make other members of the community happy they could keep best of one but extend the length of the season?
Bo3 are hard to watch. Even if it was 20-30 minute bloodbath stomps it would be hard to get through. Not to mention you need to know how every champion is played to know what you're looking at.
I used to be able to "watch" every league when I worked in the restaurant industry. just get the full day VOD set up on the laptop, put it off to the side, plug the sound system in. Best 10 hour shifts I had :p
They could have changed the format to give us League more often rather then having two streams. It's an excuse and it makes the overall team strength weaker. Less games means weaker play.
I agree with Ella Grasso. It's way more convenient/hype to watch best of ones but I did love best of threes too-and really understanding which teams were better and why.
For the first slide, I actually picked Fenix/Azir in my head. I've watched lcs/worlds since season 3 and I've seen Huni play lots of champs supremely well, but I've only really been super impressed by Fenix on his Azir. Super.
Bo3 hands down better... Bo1s are just sooo unsatisfying. Leaves you left wanting more and unsure, plus I want to see more of the teams I like not less.
I feel like best of 1's are more exciting but when you think about how teams could just plan out a singular game and cheese to win without having to plan for a whole series it doesn't really reflect how good the team is on the whole
At this point might as well do the First round of the split as best of 1 and the seconds half you do best of 3s. then all teams play one best of 3 and one best of 1 game. seems fair and a way to get both of these into LCS.
Really according to the amount of time a person has. I can't watch a bunch of b03, however I definitvely can watch the bo1 that are interesting to me. However yeah b03 are better to judge a teams strength
i hate bo1 mostly cuz no1 will try weird picks in hopes of surprise cuz its game over if u fail. and preparation will be towards safer tactics since u cant make mistake. thats why meta is going in direction of stopwatches & shields and whatever can keep you alive
Viewing experience, Best of 1's Furthering team experience, Best of 3's I feel like they might want to do something like, opening and closing week best of 3's and then everything in between best of 1's. Since.. well.. NA lost due to Best of 1's last worlds (choke?) but if they had actually advanced they might've gotten better results overall. I just think teams need experience/practice with both formats to be succesfull
BO3 makes the sub thing way easier. All Chinese teams and korean teams gained a lot of benefits. And BO3 made the 6th player of the team impactful. So no sub players for NA/EU now. I guess it is not a good thing
Funny how they’re still trying to justify the Bo1 format. Bo3’s was a step forward for the NA region. Bo3’s gave teams better preparation for MSI and Worlds. They claimed viewership went down in the one year they tried it (and that’s probably true) but didn’t give fans time to adjust to the new schedule. Bo3’s meant that NA teams would perform better at these international tournaments. Better teams draw more viewership. Fans would have adjusted to the new format once it became “normal”. Still disappointed they never gave it a chance.
Everything was on point except the Targeted Agro, it has MASSIVELY effected many champions. The majority of the player base is hugley effected by this.
talked more about c9 than 100T, when hey went to talk about them on the dive it turned into how badly kobe needed to use the bathroom during their long first game......
They just talked about C9 on the dive, there's 10 teams in the NALCS you can't honestly expect them to spend an exactly even amount of time talking about every single one of those teams in the videos.
BO3 is way better than BO1 for me because if you lose game 1 then you have to win 2 games against your opponent and if you win two games then you won the game that’s why I love bo3 than bo1 and I know fans always watch bo1 because they don’t wanna waste time watching bo3 btw this is coming from a person who watches LCK a lot
fir the slide of best of 3s vs best of 1s, goign back to best of 1s is going to make worlds or any international event that much worse result wise for europe and NA, Playing vs regions with best of 3s year round they are practiced at the format, and not this cheesy best of 1s.
Gawd dammit I literally have KT vs SKT Game 3 open in another tab cos I was watching it....guess it's always gonna be difficult to avoid spoilers. Ah well. I probably prefer KT anyway so I'm not too disappointed.
BO1 is more entertaining. But BO3 is much better for the teams. If you have a close BO3 its good. But If you have a 2 game waste of time then it's horrible. BO1 on the other side are so important to win.
Regardless of best of 1 or best of 3, I only watch teams that I like, so best of 3 was better for me. I'm not watching Clutch vs. Whatever other garbage team, doesn't matter if they play fewer games.
Please make these longer lol
If you make them longer you'll take the magic away.
nxztt the entire premise is a quick overview of their thoughts in under 7minutes.
and uncut :3
The games are already long enough man
*7* *S* *L* *I* *D* *E* *S*
TSM Jatt will always be my favorite analyst.
Poor Jatt retired from casting, now his dog's gonna replace him at the analyst desk.
I think tsm might have trouble with bo1 remember last year they lost first game like almost every series during regular season?
Chris Rucker They also had 3 different team members. It's hard to know how they'll perform once they get settled
I think their bot lane will be fine. MY though ... I'd be very concerned about him from a TSM perspective
GreyWind1988 no? MY is good. Can you dipshits stop watching the jungler so hard.
Honestly i don't why but i think that TSM is the place where good players go to get money and die.
They had amazing players for years and they usually perform well in NA but they never perform well internationally.
Which is really weird because they often had world champions and other great players in the team.
Remember I think 2 years ago when TSM brought in yellow star? They only just made playoffs not playing great in the regular season, but really picked up in the playoffs. That was when immortals just dominated every team in the regular season with only 1 loss. I see TL as immortals now, and TSM as when they first brought in yellow star. It'll take some time for them to settle.
I like best of 3s so much more because even though the one game matters, it never lets teams fix their mistakes and play more strategical
Feels like Riot is forcing Jatt and especially Kobe to say BO1 is better. It's better for viewers (supposedly). But I still think BO3 was the superior format.
SuperHeroR i bet every pro player felt that too unless your a cheese team.
Or maybe they honestly feel that way. Your perception isn't the factual reality friend.
Obviously I haven't heard a single rioter talk bad about it, they act like it the next big thing. Bo1 suck and the bs reason omg "we are giving them practice for groups in msi/group". Why are the eastern teams not practicing for bo1s
i mean kobe and jatt are not players and while bo3 gives your team a fair shot at showing off, it was kind of boring when the teams arent evenly skilled, bo3/5s like KT vs SKT or the BO5 skt vs rox in the semi final are very exciting and fun to watch but u also gotta commit to it, cant just zap in for an hour before doing something else , so u might as well just not zap in at all as u wont get the result anyway.
bo3/5 are imo a lot better for very important stuff like play offs and for the usual lcs i prefer bo1 as it is less of a time commitment and boring matchups dont take ages
But they literally just explained in this or that why bo3 is better competitively, the only thing they said about bo1 is that it was more enjoyable to watch
Am I the only person in the comments who likes best of 1 better?
To me it's nice because I get to actually watch all the games now.
Maybe to make other members of the community happy they could keep best of one but extend the length of the season?
Nah, I'm actually with you there. I rarely have time to watch bo3's and I also want to play the game every now and then, so bo1 is alot better for me.
Bo3 are hard to watch. Even if it was 20-30 minute bloodbath stomps it would be hard to get through. Not to mention you need to know how every champion is played to know what you're looking at.
I love seeing these videos
I used to be able to "watch" every league when I worked in the restaurant industry. just get the full day VOD set up on the laptop, put it off to the side, plug the sound system in. Best 10 hour shifts I had :p
I enjoy this show so much. Keep it up!
Minions aggro change: "not sure if it will super affect people" - Akali unplayable
This or that with Kubo and Jatt
God they turned us complaining about explaining the rules into a deprecating meme
i love their chemistry together! great segment!
Iconic duo: HUHI & AURELION-SOL HELLO?
ScruffyTusks we never get to see it cause it’s always banned against him. haHAA
love this, reminds me of ESPN shows, make these longer PLEASE
I still like bo3 format 😒
I enjoy watching every team play. I would miss all the second stream games with bo3.
no
Bo1 fans here
Bo1 rules
They could have changed the format to give us League more often rather then having two streams. It's an excuse and it makes the overall team strength weaker. Less games means weaker play.
Best of 3s was waaaay better in determining who is really understanding and excelling at the meta. Best of 1 is like "Any Given Sunday"
kalastorm
I agree with your point but overall I like best of 1 better because I can now actually watch all the games!
I agree with Ella Grasso. It's way more convenient/hype to watch best of ones but I did love best of threes too-and really understanding which teams were better and why.
i want lane x lane plz rito
I love This or That keep em coming please!
For the first slide, I actually picked Fenix/Azir in my head. I've watched lcs/worlds since season 3 and I've seen Huni play lots of champs supremely well, but I've only really been super impressed by Fenix on his Azir. Super.
i love jatt, kobe and these videos
I like how when showing the support items there was Face of the Mountain, Spellthief's Edge, and Nomad's Medallion?
I love these segments
Why is there no "S04Boris" Slide? Unbelivebile such a dissapointment!
Boris doesn't want attention drawn to him, he's laying low and they respect that.
That's why they didn't talk about him much either during the games.
John Smith still sad because I think he did really well.
I guess since this format is NA-related putting a S04-Slide in it would make no sense.
Well, all the EU audience get what's being put into This or That so why shouldn't the NA audience be able to figure out the S04 Boris meme?
Bo3 hands down better... Bo1s are just sooo unsatisfying. Leaves you left wanting more and unsure, plus I want to see more of the teams I like not less.
I would like to see every team go against every other team in two rounds of Best of Three. Then, one game against each team in a Best of One.
Lmao the third slide
For question 2 its stopwatch cause the support item quests are just sightstone now
Why do I get recommended 4 years later? xd
I feel like best of 1's are more exciting but when you think about how teams could just plan out a singular game and cheese to win without having to plan for a whole series it doesn't really reflect how good the team is on the whole
Jatt saying he doesn't count the first worlds as a worlds lol.
Jatt's reaction when Kobe called Liquid wins Worlds a bigger overraction than TSM worst team in NA :'DDD
best format is best of 2 for regular season and best of 3 (or 5) for other matches
These are so good
Why isn’t the first slide “huni /Lucian and huhi/A Sol”
Wade Bryant fenix azir is way more iconic
not really.
More like A Sol/Bugs.
Most iconic duo of all.
At this point might as well do the First round of the split as best of 1 and the seconds half you do best of 3s. then all teams play one best of 3 and one best of 1 game. seems fair and a way to get both of these into LCS.
Wait what? NA Casters reminding us, that NA has never reached the Semis at Worlds? Did this really happen?
They're baaack!!!
Best of 3's are way better than best of 1's imo
Really according to the amount of time a person has.
I can't watch a bunch of b03, however I definitvely can watch the bo1 that are interesting to me.
However yeah b03 are better to judge a teams strength
I knew before even watching the video the first comment I would see is "TSM" LOL!!
i hate bo1 mostly cuz no1 will try weird picks in hopes of surprise cuz its game over if u fail. and preparation will be towards safer tactics since u cant make mistake. thats why meta is going in direction of stopwatches & shields and whatever can keep you alive
Feels like NA went back BO1 so that they can do better in groups at worlds :^)
How could the memers miss master Boris?! They should compare the chat's reaction to Boris to the chocolate guy in spongebob.
Always awesome
Viewing experience, Best of 1's
Furthering team experience, Best of 3's
I feel like they might want to do something like, opening and closing week best of 3's and then everything in between best of 1's. Since.. well.. NA lost due to Best of 1's last worlds (choke?) but if they had actually advanced they might've gotten better results overall. I just think teams need experience/practice with both formats to be succesfull
Were you guys super hyper today? So much arm movement hahaha
feelsbad, those support items don't exist anymore
BO3 makes the sub thing way easier. All Chinese teams and korean teams gained a lot of benefits. And BO3 made the 6th player of the team impactful. So no sub players for NA/EU now. I guess it is not a good thing
Fenix Azir, Huni Lucian, Jensen Ekko
I need that TL faces and logo edit over SKT for my wallpaper
Funny how they’re still trying to justify the Bo1 format. Bo3’s was a step forward for the NA region. Bo3’s gave teams better preparation for MSI and Worlds. They claimed viewership went down in the one year they tried it (and that’s probably true) but didn’t give fans time to adjust to the new schedule. Bo3’s meant that NA teams would perform better at these international tournaments. Better teams draw more viewership. Fans would have adjusted to the new format once it became “normal”. Still disappointed they never gave it a chance.
Everything was on point except the Targeted Agro, it has MASSIVELY effected many champions. The majority of the player base is hugley effected by this.
still avoiding talking about C9 huh? hmmmmm...
nonono go watch the dive
talked more about c9 than 100T, when hey went to talk about them on the dive it turned into how badly kobe needed to use the bathroom during their long first game......
They just talked about C9 on the dive, there's 10 teams in the NALCS you can't honestly expect them to spend an exactly even amount of time talking about every single one of those teams in the videos.
this or that producers need to start watching the dive a lot of the slides were talked about on the dive
Oh come on, lolesports RUclips production, at least change the description to "Kobe and Jatt return for This or That". You can do this!
Make it longer!
Ready Steady Jatt Vs Kobe Wun Kenobi
Is prime time league still a thing? I wanna watch the vod
too short haha
I miss best of 3 :(
2 Junglers saying targeted minion aggro isn't a big deal
David Maddox it’s not if you know what you’re doing.
I am sure it's not as big a deal as people are making it out to be, was just a thought that crossed my mind
i want tl to win worlds now
Imagine bo3's with these meta, three 45+ minute games... I would rather kms
Best of 3s
BO3 is way better than BO1 for me because if you lose game 1 then you have to win 2 games against your opponent and if you win two games then you won the game that’s why I love bo3 than bo1 and I know fans always watch bo1 because they don’t wanna waste time watching bo3 btw this is coming from a person who watches LCK a lot
fir the slide of best of 3s vs best of 1s, goign back to best of 1s is going to make worlds or any international event that much worse result wise for europe and NA, Playing vs regions with best of 3s year round they are practiced at the format, and not this cheesy best of 1s.
rito pls more slides
The only good lcs content other than the matches itself
"Jatt and Kobe return for This or That". Come on description get it right.
I prefer BO3, love having more to watch and the drafting
I AM SRRY BUT SEASON 1 WORLDS IS THE ONLY WORLDS SO EU IS THE BEST REGION
romer copraij what did you say?
That means NA is the second best region PogChamp
I must say u are right
Even if Season 1 didn't matter EU has far better international results than NA, EU would still have 6/7 semifinal runs, and NA none.
Worse meta, Fnatic abused WotA, trash tier competition. But that's the argument bandwagoners use since they don't know more
Does thepeacepigeon create the slides? :P
Can someone explain the minion aggro and targeted spells to me? When was this added and where can I see the details?
Last patch, Minions aggro based on targeted spells now, not just auto attacks. It's really punishing for champions like Ryze, Kassadin, and Pantheon.
Bo3>bo1, by 9k, i dont know why it changed
Who has time to watch every region.......
fenix and huni look exactly the same.
KOBE FIX YOUR COLLAR
Why not mention to tune into OPL!!! LOL
With Kobe Bryant
Gawd dammit I literally have KT vs SKT Game 3 open in another tab cos I was watching it....guess it's always gonna be difficult to avoid spoilers. Ah well. I probably prefer KT anyway so I'm not too disappointed.
selll out we all know that best outta 3 is the better format
why does Jatt not use his right leg
I like Best of 1 better. Easier to plan my weekend errands around when my favourite team is playing.
Jatt is so attractive. Glad to see him back in jeans ;)
I love this series but...why is Jatt on the right side with the “that”? Lol would go better
No live for LAN and LAS
I wouldn't be upset with Bo2s
I know that na is bad but isn’t Eu a joke though
these guys r so bias it annoys me at times. no one ever thinks of lucian when u think of huni. fenix is always said together with azir.
targons has been removed : (
bart peters thank god
Good
BO1 is more entertaining. But BO3 is much better for the teams. If you have a close BO3 its good. But If you have a 2 game waste of time then it's horrible. BO1 on the other side are so important to win.
keep them in check with bo1 is better bo3. Rito whip too op
"Tune in for every league" Any chance for VCSA 😊
YOU CAN'T VOTE FOR BO3 IF YOU WATCH VODS AND FAST FORWARD.
TSM Jatt
I told you not to overhype an EU botlane. EU is freelo i still had TSM 2nd in the league just because they have a star studded roster
Regardless of best of 1 or best of 3, I only watch teams that I like, so best of 3 was better for me. I'm not watching Clutch vs. Whatever other garbage team, doesn't matter if they play fewer games.
So na anaylsists trying to justify riots changes to best of ones all for the sake of casual fans. Mk
hussein Shaban Employed fans are the ones who buy skins. Employed players barely have time to play the game.
Nobody watches these but this is gold