Such a beautiful and sad love song. Yes I loved you dearly....awwwww I wish they could have married. Love the images of Dylan and Joanie. They go with the song perfectly.
I love this singer, and I love this song. She has a magnificent voice! She was so beautiful, and she surely still is. Time passes for everyone, but some charms remain timeless.
Thank you for your feedback (especially the "eloquent" part -:). You're the first person to comment on my impressions and observations about Joan's problem with singing the song. I wanted to understand why she refused to sing it when I saw her in 2005. From what I saw in the public television documentary "How Sweet The Sound," and the RUclips videos of her singing the song with Collins at Newport 2009, it began to make sense. It doesn't affect my deep appreciation of Joan on all her levels, and my enjoyment of her music. This iconic song is mesmerizing and as you said, hauntingly beautiful. It always evokes a bittersweet soulful pleasure. By the way, I like what your RUclips name connotes.... I take it you are Mimi. My name is Joe. A pleasure to make your acquaintance.
I was 21 in 1975 and was in love with who I thought would be my forever soul mate…still makes me weep. He was dead in 15 years from his addictions after we divorced.
Thank you for your comment. I hope you find solace. Sorrow we all have. Love never dies, but you must accept the loss of your soulmate and let go of blame. Having the experience of knowing love means you can find and be in love again.
La grâce opère toujours : paroles, musique et voix m'enveloppent d'une mélancolie joyeuse. Joan Baez souffle l'amour de sa vie et l'amour de la vie plus fort que les faiseurs de guerre, les diffuseurs de haine et les annonciateurs de la mort de nos libertés. Un message d'espérance et une voix qui contrastent étrangement avec les vociférations de Trump et de ses sbires dans une Amérique défigurée et déboussolée où Bob Dylan nous désarçonne.
In 1965 she sang at shady grove outdoor music near Washington, D.C. I was there with my girlfriend. After her performance she came out for the encore with some young curly haired guy with a guitar almost as big as he was. Nobody knew who the hell he was. Couldn’t sing and drowned out Joan pretty good. She had goo goo eyes for him bad. Dylan. For him it was more like hanging onto her coattails. I still think of who I was with.
Great song. You have to realize that in my humble opinion, Bob Dylan was a user of people, an abuser of people ("your poetry was lousy"), and put people down constantly. Also in my opinion he is a arrogant A**. Always has been and always will be. In the Baez documentary he says he was trying to deal with the whole thing when he refused to let her sing with him on stage in England. Bob Dylan is a great writer but again, in my humble opinion, a user of others and a crappy individual. Joan defends him, I think, because she did love him so dearly. He wasn't worth it, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing this. I agree with what you're saying. 100%. You might notice the photo I chose of Dylan when she sings "where are you calling from, a booth in the Midwest" - showed him years later looking hard and menacing, a look he cultivated. Dylan admits he used her. He said he "rode" her and let her carry him to fame and fortune. Then he treated her like s....t and dumped her. After this song came out he invited her to join him on his Rolling Thunder tour. She couldn't resist. It was still gratifying for her to see and spend time with him again. So it goes.
He is very talented. And it is attractive even if he is an "arrogant A". I agree he is. However, Joan is also very talented and could make her own life seemingly unharmed.
Joan Baez deserved way better than Bob Dylan, a typical sexist male of his time. Great writers/artists do not equal great human beings. How ironic that her success with this song meant she had to sing it over and over again, reliving that pain.
Yup, he treated her like crap. In all of photos I have seen them together, he is never smiling, even if she is. She got caught up in his "aura" whatever the hell that is, & he used her to further his own agenda. Whatever his talents are as a songwriter, he is, IMHO, a poor excuse for a human being.
I've been listening to and learninng Dylan since 1964. You kids don't know shat. How many biographys have you read? How many times have you seen him in concert? Only youngsters would try to pigeon -hole him into some false narrative. If you would listen to him from 64' up, you would soon realize that he tells us exactly who he is, his views on woman and society, his faith and his humor about naivity. "Do not criticize what you don't understand." (bob dylan)
I'm fond of the time she ended the song with "I'll take the diamonds"; she said it laughing. She was and is stronger than he was and is; she might well have scared him. It's the wimps who have to keep things vague.
The song is about Joan Baez's strained relationship with her former love, Bob Dylan. She loved him more than he does her. Unsure. Lost at sea. They had some wonderful moments that Joan still treasures... but the relationship ended because (in Joan's view), Bob could never make up his mind what he wanted from his relationship with her. He was always "keeping things vague," acting one moment as if they were going to get married, then acting as if they were just pals. They split up, and Joan has spent years trying to move on and put him out of her mind... but from time to time, he calls her up out of the blue, and brings all her complicated emotions rushing out again. Part of her thinks it's wonderful to hear from him, but another part is angry and resentful, wondering "What the hell do you want? To reminisce about the good old days? Feeling nostalgic? I mean, you obviously didn't want me when you had me... why do you act as if you want me NOW?" Dylan's calls evoke both delightful memories (diamonds) and awful ones (rust).
Dylan admits that he "rode" her - used her to help his fledgling career - before dumping her in a hurtful way. She has forever cherished memories of their good times together and never stopped admiring his unique talent. "Diamonds and Rust" opens up old wounds and regrets that are deeply personal. Audiences clamor to hear her signature song wherever she performs. She's really obliged to sing it, but sometimes she can't bring herself to do it. A perfect example is my experience of attending a performance of hers in California where she refused to sing Diamonds and Rust and chose to sing a relatively obscure song written by Dylan instead. She was in effect saying to the audience, if you want to hear me sing about my connection to Dylan, here's what I'm offering tonight, a song by Dylan which affirms my admiration for him. That's all you're getting. For the audience it was like a slap in the face. There is only one explanation for it. On that given night she didn't have the emotional wherewithal to relive her bittersweet relationship with him. It was too painful. She returned to that same theater a couple of years later and did sing the song. She knew she owed it to those in the audience whom she previously disappointed. Another example of her ambivalence over performing the song was in full display when she reluctantly agreed to sing it together with Judy Collins at Collins' request at the Newport Folk Festival in 2009. Her discomfort was palpable and she could barely get through it.
@@DippyHippie What I wrote was a compilation of information obtained from print sources combined with my personal experience and insight. I admire Joan Baez very much. I’ve never met her. A personal friend would not critique her song.
Just an absolutely amazing song in all respects. Brilliant and heartbreaking.
Apart from the song, I love the photos, a window into an era & a relationship - very moving.
A masterpiece.
Stunning, iconic, haunting. Such love can hurt, but worth it.
Such a beautiful and sad love song. Yes I loved you dearly....awwwww I wish they could have married. Love the images of Dylan and Joanie. They go with the song perfectly.
Thank you so much for your comment.
@@dylanfan2784 They had two different outlooks on life and that is why it ended.
Bellísima canción, letra, música, interpretación... Voz única, y sentimiento poético nostálgico.
Expressed your purest feelings
My god what a beautiful woman....
She truly is, her Indigenous roots really shine.
Great song, great singer
Joan looks so smitten and in love in these pics....❤
I love this singer, and I love this song. She has a magnificent voice! She was so beautiful, and she surely still is. Time passes for everyone, but some charms remain timeless.
it brings a tear to my eye
Hauntingly beautiful. Thanks for sharing and providing your eloquent and insightful experience.
Thank you for your feedback (especially the "eloquent" part -:). You're the first person to comment on my impressions and observations about Joan's problem with singing the song. I wanted to understand why she refused to sing it when I saw her in 2005. From what I saw in the public television documentary "How Sweet The Sound," and the RUclips videos of her singing the song with Collins at Newport 2009, it began to make sense. It doesn't affect my deep appreciation of Joan on all her levels, and my enjoyment of her music. This iconic song is mesmerizing and as you said, hauntingly beautiful. It always evokes a bittersweet soulful pleasure. By the way, I like what your RUclips name connotes.... I take it you are Mimi. My name is Joe. A pleasure to make your acquaintance.
Joan's best song I think.legends both.music will live on forever.
best song she has written ...that,s what love produced......
Always great pleasure and all too often seemingly unendurable pain...
Such a beautiful song
I love this so much
..and my Debbie
When love goes wrong it goes deep into the soul
timeless
En los 60s todas querían ser como la enorme Joan Báez. Y aún en el ahora en el 2024 inspira a nuevas generaciones. Forever Young Dear Joan. ✌️🌹✌️🌹
Superb 💎 💖
Thanks for your lovely comment.
I was 21 in 1975 and was in love with who I thought would be my forever soul mate…still makes me weep. He was dead in 15 years from his addictions after we divorced.
Thank you for your comment. I hope you find solace. Sorrow we all have. Love never dies, but you must accept the loss of your soulmate and let go of blame. Having the experience of knowing love means you can find and be in love again.
My heart is
So broken....I my Debbie...my island gurl
superstar life brakes love
La grâce opère toujours : paroles, musique et voix m'enveloppent d'une mélancolie joyeuse. Joan Baez souffle l'amour de sa vie et l'amour de la vie plus fort que les faiseurs de guerre, les diffuseurs de haine et les annonciateurs de la mort de nos libertés. Un message d'espérance et une voix qui contrastent étrangement avec les vociférations de Trump et de ses sbires dans une Amérique défigurée et déboussolée où Bob Dylan nous désarçonne.
EXCEPTIONAL.I WAS IN NAPARIMA COLLEGE.THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
Can't help feeling that Dylan was a young man on the make. When Joan served her purpose and he became well-known he moved on.
And she was not into being around drugs.
In 1965 she sang at shady grove outdoor music near Washington, D.C. I was there with my girlfriend. After her performance she came out for the encore with some young curly haired guy with a guitar almost as big as he was. Nobody knew who the hell he was. Couldn’t sing and drowned out Joan pretty good. She had goo goo eyes for him bad. Dylan. For him it was more like hanging onto her coattails. I still think of who I was with.
@@butchie2752hope the lady was more happyness than pain
❤
Great song. You have to realize that in my humble opinion, Bob Dylan was a user of people, an abuser of people ("your poetry was lousy"), and put people down constantly. Also in my opinion he is a arrogant A**. Always has been and always will be. In the Baez documentary he says he was trying to deal with the whole thing when he refused to let her sing with him on stage in England. Bob Dylan is a great writer but again, in my humble opinion, a user of others and a crappy individual. Joan defends him, I think, because she did love him so dearly. He wasn't worth it, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing this. I agree with what you're saying. 100%. You might notice the photo I chose of Dylan when she sings "where are you calling from, a booth in the Midwest" - showed him years later looking hard and menacing, a look he cultivated. Dylan admits he used her. He said he "rode" her and let her carry him to fame and fortune. Then he treated her like s....t and dumped her. After this song came out he invited her to join him on his Rolling Thunder tour. She couldn't resist. It was still gratifying for her to see and spend time with him again. So it goes.
He is very talented. And it is attractive even if he is an "arrogant A". I agree he is. However, Joan is also very talented and could make her own life seemingly unharmed.
Joan Baez deserved way better than Bob Dylan, a typical sexist male of his time. Great writers/artists do not equal great human beings. How ironic that her success with this song meant she had to sing it over and over again, reliving that pain.
Yup, he treated her like crap. In all of photos I have seen them together, he is never smiling, even if she is. She got caught up in his "aura" whatever the hell that is, & he used her to further his own agenda. Whatever his talents are as a songwriter, he is, IMHO, a poor excuse for a human being.
I've been listening to and learninng Dylan since 1964. You kids don't know shat. How many biographys have you read? How many times have you seen him in concert? Only youngsters would try to pigeon -hole him into some false narrative. If you would listen to him from 64' up, you would soon realize that he tells us exactly who he is, his views on woman and society, his faith and his humor about naivity. "Do not criticize what you don't understand." (bob dylan)
Love unrequited
The depth of her pain is so palpable.
It makes me angry at Bobby for breaking her heart so completely.
I wuv my Debbie..
I love my Debbie
I wonder if Bob ever watched the "Don't Look Back" fly-on-the-wall documentary and saw how appalingly he and Neuworth treated her,
I'm fond of the time she ended the song with "I'll take the diamonds"; she said it laughing. She was and is stronger than he was and is; she might well have scared him. It's the wimps who have to keep things vague.
The song is about Joan Baez's strained relationship with her former love, Bob Dylan. She loved him more than he does her. Unsure. Lost at sea.
They had some wonderful moments that Joan still treasures... but the relationship ended because (in Joan's view), Bob could never make up his mind what he wanted from his relationship with her. He was always "keeping things vague," acting one moment as if they were going to get married, then acting as if they were just pals.
They split up, and Joan has spent years trying to move on and put him out of her mind... but from time to time, he calls her up out of the blue, and brings all her complicated emotions rushing out again.
Part of her thinks it's wonderful to hear from him, but another part is angry and resentful, wondering "What the hell do you want? To reminisce about the good old days? Feeling nostalgic? I mean, you obviously didn't want me when you had me... why do you act as if you want me NOW?"
Dylan's calls evoke both delightful memories (diamonds) and awful ones (rust).
Dylan admits that he "rode" her - used her to help his fledgling career - before dumping her in a hurtful way. She has forever cherished memories of their good times together and never stopped admiring his unique talent. "Diamonds and Rust" opens up old wounds and regrets that are deeply personal. Audiences clamor to hear her signature song wherever she performs. She's really obliged to sing it, but sometimes she can't bring herself to do it. A perfect example is my experience of attending a performance of hers in California where she refused to sing Diamonds and Rust and chose to sing a relatively obscure song written by Dylan instead. She was in effect saying to the audience, if you want to hear me sing about my connection to Dylan, here's what I'm offering tonight, a song by Dylan which affirms my admiration for him. That's all you're getting.
For the audience it was like a slap in the face. There is only one explanation for it. On that given night she didn't have the emotional wherewithal to relive her bittersweet relationship with him. It was too painful. She returned to that same theater a couple of years later and did sing the song. She knew she owed it to those in the audience whom she previously disappointed.
Another example of her ambivalence over performing the song was in full display when she reluctantly agreed to sing it together with Judy Collins at Collins' request at the Newport Folk Festival in 2009. Her discomfort was palpable and she could barely get through it.
@@PS109VanBurenHigh how do you know all this? Is she a personal friend of yours?
@@DippyHippie What I wrote was a compilation of information obtained from print sources combined with my personal experience and insight. I admire Joan Baez very much. I’ve never met her. A personal friend would not critique her song.
WHERE ARE YOU CALLING FROM? A BOOTH IN THE MIDWEST.AV RAMPERSAD TRINIDAD.
This is a fantastic song even if the theme is "you bastard".
😮😮
A woman walked up to me.. handed me a cassette.. this was the only thing on it
He should have stayed with her
So where are the lyrics?
Click on the title and scroll down. The lyrics are below in the Description.
there is always rust, rarely diamonds
In my humble opinion Dylan is a mere shadow compared to Joan Baez
haha
Sounds prosaic
❤