Fikowski is a "hyper winner" he has been to the CrossFit Games 7 times in a row which is Incredible just by itself. Add on 3, 1st place regional wins, and 4 top five Games finishes plus many more examples. HOF for sure.
Nice convo boys! I’m a tennis coach and a CrossFit methodologist. I love digging into what makes people better! Thanks for the great content! By the way the The Professor Project is Brent’s program and it’s ver very good!
I think that any competitors making it to the games have a tremendous desire to win. I don’t think that champion’s mindset are much different. I believe that their results make us feel like their mental side is a differentiator when in reality I believe it’s purely talent and genetics at that point. The guy ending third in th CF Games is not there because he didn’t want first place as badly as the guy in first place. When we observe multiple title winners its easy to look at their mindset and think that this sets them apart but I don’t think thats the case. Yes compared to your average athlete but not to the guy getting a silver medal.
I’d definitely agree. If mindset was truly the most important thing than the toughest mental competitor in any sport, let’s say tennis, Could just transition to ANY other sport and dominate after a few years. Just not true
I think you're partially right. But i also listen to the language used by some competitors and i feel that the way they talk, they will never take the top spot without a fluke. Its not all of them, but some i just don't feel have that real killer instinct, to really really go in to the darkest hole to snatch a victory where it matters. Its very obvious when fraser talks, that he has that
Fraser’s strength is his honest self analysis (from his BI training), his willingness to hire experts to help him, and just his plain smarts. He shopped around for trainers, picked their brains and moved on when he wasn’t getting anything more from them, and hired experts (Hinshaw). He also focused on how he could best continue training with the least fatigue possible (his little wrist machine). Others would just do more traditional work and then be exhausted the next day; he figured out a better way.
I remember Ben Bergeron saying, he doesn’t want to coach anyone who has the mindset of “wanting to make the games”. He only coaches people with the mindset of “I want to win the CrossFit games” or “I want to be the most dominant athlete this sport has ever seen”
I like how you talk about how the mindset fascinates you. I enjoy your videos as I am in the crossfit space, as well, I just haven't talked about it as much in my content. It's been my muse since I was a young kid, studying the greatest athletes and leaders of all time, learning about what makes them tick, all the stuff that fires us up to be better. So, it's cool to see someone else in the crossfit world talk about this. What's really interesting to me is that it's often not always the most talented or the most gifted that embody this frame of mind. Sure, every now and then, you get the perfect combination of drive, talent, and an unbreakable mind. Then, you have a once in a generation "performer." But, look at where these people started and it's not always easy street for them. Michael Jordan being cut from his high school team is always a great example I think of, but even in other fields & industries, you have similar stories about how they developed into that person, it wasn't always natural. Good video man.
There are plenty of people that have the high expectations mindset, but they aren't anywhere near actually good enough to win. Brent isnt like that, Vellner is not like that, Ohlsen isn't like that and they are still tip top
Brent is speaking lots of truth here. There are several people that have the discipline and the expectation to be number one but there can only be ONE. Several factors cannot be overcome such as genetics. It can be a slap in the face to these other athletes that they just didn’t have as high expectations or work ethic as Fraser which isn’t true
From my own 40+ years as a HP athlete and coach it has become incredibly clear that physical potential is far more prevalent than the mental fortitute and drive to win. As the saying goes, "hard works beats talent unless talent works hard." There is about 1% who are talented and work hard enough to win. It's called the Pareto distribution.
I think Mats distinctive mindset was mischaracterized a bit at least if you take him for his word. After weightlifting he tried to decouple himself from the results. His second 2nd place finish ate at him but it wasn’t because it was second place, his drive was that he knew he had cut corners along the way. He was obsessed with finding every corner and angle to make himself the best he could be. If someone came out and outperformed him and he came in second or he had an injury at the games he had no control of, he tried to decouple those results from his identity. He focused on every angle he had control over, his sleep, accessories, recovery, diet, technique, strategy, not on the outcome or people that he has no control over.
My last name is Winters and every time I here you say "hyper winners" I hear "hyper Winters" and I think you are speaking of me when I was back in grade school haha!
Alex and I decided to stop posting to the come correct youtube and just post clips here. The full episode will be up on all audio platforms and will also be in video on spotify.
I think different mindsets are appropriate for different sports. Strength sports would require different mindset than endurance sports or dexterity sports. A champion weightlifter will have different optimal mindset, than a champion marathon runner or long distance swimmer, and still different than curling champion.
True! I also think that even within the same sport you’ll find a pretty big variety of mindsets within the top athletes. Just like you’ll have the top athletes in any sport utilizing slightly different techniques to achieve the same results.
There's only room at the top for a select few. Mindset and genetic gifts don't guarantee ultimate victory, as there are plenty of others with the same mindset and similar genetic gifts.
Ignore the trolls, strength and endurance will help you sleep, esp mental fortitude and the ability to calm down. Folks in that realm don't appreciate the sauces these bums claim while liking their own comments but that stuff doesn't improve sleep at all
Whilst I agree that steroids can mess up sleep rather than help, the idea that he could dominate CrossFit to the extent he did and not be using PEDs just isn’t logical. It would basically require no elite CrossFitter to be a drugs cheat. That’s how powerful PEDs are- it’s just not possible that a clean athlete could beat a field of less talented enhanced athletes. Doesn’t take away from Matt though, the guy still beat a field of elite dopers, and it doesn’t make him any less of an authority
@@bilbobaggins8440 I’m not talking from a “supplement” perspective, I’m talking about the sheer ability to fit 3-4 training sessions into one day while also finding the time to eat, come up with programming, hell even take a dump while also sleeping 10 hrs a night 😂
not sure anything was said here … until the last minute. if were talking dark side i would expect a video about how animal sacrifices could increase performance or some arc of the covenant instructions
Polar opposites would be Tiger Woods and John Daly....obviously Tiger has more of everything, but in their prime, Tiger was extremely driven and hit balls 23 hours a day and Daly was at the casino LOL
Exactly.. both loaded to the gills with talent as well. As we can see, Daly is just as good now as he was in his 'prime'. Tiger, not so much. Partially because of injuries, but partially because his mindset has accepted he just isn't going to win all the time anymore.
Canadians used to always being a bridesmaid never a bride, is it capability or potential? No these dudes are beasts but they are severely weak mentally prob because Canada.
He we are: just two bro losers talking about what it takes to win 😎 😂
Lol whatever man... you're a winner in my heart, Brent! let's gooooooo :D
youu are a winner in a lot of peopleSSS eyes motherfucker...
😂
What's better than a thoughtful Fikowski?
A thoughtful Fikowski in glasses. 🤓
Love how open Fikowski is. Just very open about his emotions when it comes to training and the day to day.
Mat was the complete package.
Mentality, strategic and technically sound
Pure domination
Yeh just add super douche to the list and you got it !
And genetics. Perfect size for CrossFit.
Fikowski is a "hyper winner" he has been to the CrossFit Games 7 times in a row which is Incredible just by itself. Add on 3, 1st place regional wins, and 4 top five Games finishes plus many more examples. HOF for sure.
Nice convo boys! I’m a tennis coach and a CrossFit methodologist. I love digging into what makes people better! Thanks for the great content! By the way the The Professor Project is Brent’s program and it’s ver very good!
I would love to see Fikowski or Vellner win the games!
I think that any competitors making it to the games have a tremendous desire to win. I don’t think that champion’s mindset are much different. I believe that their results make us feel like their mental side is a differentiator when in reality I believe it’s purely talent and genetics at that point. The guy ending third in th CF Games is not there because he didn’t want first place as badly as the guy in first place. When we observe multiple title winners its easy to look at their mindset and think that this sets them apart but I don’t think thats the case. Yes compared to your average athlete but not to the guy getting a silver medal.
I’d definitely agree. If mindset was truly the most important thing than the toughest mental competitor in any sport, let’s say tennis, Could just transition to ANY other sport and dominate after a few years. Just not true
It's the same discourse with SOF selection
You need to read David goggins books
I think you're partially right. But i also listen to the language used by some competitors and i feel that the way they talk, they will never take the top spot without a fluke. Its not all of them, but some i just don't feel have that real killer instinct, to really really go in to the darkest hole to snatch a victory where it matters. Its very obvious when fraser talks, that he has that
Fraser’s strength is his honest self analysis (from his BI training), his willingness to hire experts to help him, and just his plain smarts. He shopped around for trainers, picked their brains and moved on when he wasn’t getting anything more from them, and hired experts (Hinshaw). He also focused on how he could best continue training with the least fatigue possible (his little wrist machine). Others would just do more traditional work and then be exhausted the next day; he figured out a better way.
GREAT addition with the live sports cuts whilst talking. Makes video interview 🔥
The depth of the contemplation of the trade-off of "winner mentality" seen in a larger group of people ....pure gold.
I remember Ben Bergeron saying, he doesn’t want to coach anyone who has the mindset of “wanting to make the games”. He only coaches people with the mindset of “I want to win the CrossFit games” or “I want to be the most dominant athlete this sport has ever seen”
I like how you talk about how the mindset fascinates you. I enjoy your videos as I am in the crossfit space, as well, I just haven't talked about it as much in my content. It's been my muse since I was a young kid, studying the greatest athletes and leaders of all time, learning about what makes them tick, all the stuff that fires us up to be better. So, it's cool to see someone else in the crossfit world talk about this.
What's really interesting to me is that it's often not always the most talented or the most gifted that embody this frame of mind. Sure, every now and then, you get the perfect combination of drive, talent, and an unbreakable mind. Then, you have a once in a generation "performer." But, look at where these people started and it's not always easy street for them. Michael Jordan being cut from his high school team is always a great example I think of, but even in other fields & industries, you have similar stories about how they developed into that person, it wasn't always natural.
Good video man.
Had to watch that Mat Fraser screaming at the crowd montage like 5 times. Gets me pumped
Louie Simmons always used to say stick with the plan no matter what. Get the work in adjust it if needed but get the work done
There are plenty of people that have the high expectations mindset, but they aren't anywhere near actually good enough to win. Brent isnt like that, Vellner is not like that, Ohlsen isn't like that and they are still tip top
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Mal has the mindset of wanting to dominate. I think if she can avoid injury, since she is so young, she could potentially chase tias record
about that....
Brent is speaking lots of truth here. There are several people that have the discipline and the expectation to be number one but there can only be ONE. Several factors cannot be overcome such as genetics. It can be a slap in the face to these other athletes that they just didn’t have as high expectations or work ethic as Fraser which isn’t true
Anyone know who is lifting @4:27
Zlatan Vanev, Bulgaria
From my own 40+ years as a HP athlete and coach it has become incredibly clear that physical potential is far more prevalent than the mental fortitute and drive to win. As the saying goes, "hard works beats talent unless talent works hard." There is about 1% who are talented and work hard enough to win. It's called the Pareto distribution.
I think Mats distinctive mindset was mischaracterized a bit at least if you take him for his word. After weightlifting he tried to decouple himself from the results. His second 2nd place finish ate at him but it wasn’t because it was second place, his drive was that he knew he had cut corners along the way. He was obsessed with finding every corner and angle to make himself the best he could be. If someone came out and outperformed him and he came in second or he had an injury at the games he had no control of, he tried to decouple those results from his identity. He focused on every angle he had control over, his sleep, accessories, recovery, diet, technique, strategy, not on the outcome or people that he has no control over.
Thanks guys
My last name is Winters and every time I here you say "hyper winners" I hear "hyper Winters" and I think you are speaking of me when I was back in grade school haha!
So sad your Come Correct video yesterday went away..
Alex and I decided to stop posting to the come correct youtube and just post clips here. The full episode will be up on all audio platforms and will also be in video on spotify.
@@zacktelander lol alrighty then. I'll miss it 😉
I think different mindsets are appropriate for different sports. Strength sports would require different mindset than endurance sports or dexterity sports. A champion weightlifter will have different optimal mindset, than a champion marathon runner or long distance swimmer, and still different than curling champion.
True! I also think that even within the same sport you’ll find a pretty big variety of mindsets within the top athletes. Just like you’ll have the top athletes in any sport utilizing slightly different techniques to achieve the same results.
There's only room at the top for a select few. Mindset and genetic gifts don't guarantee ultimate victory, as there are plenty of others with the same mindset and similar genetic gifts.
Brent seems like a cool guy
one of my longest standing friends in the space.
I’m good at faking it
Faking friendship or faking being cool?
@Zack Telander hey, freakieD has a call out for you. It's pretty fun, actually.
@@hmcdonut both
Love Brent
They want it more... everyone has talent. When you get to the top of the top it's training more than anyone else and that's it.
I have a hard time understanding how Mat was able to do the amount of volume he did everyday and still found a way to sleep 10 hours a night
Special medicine
It's called steroids.
Ignore the trolls, strength and endurance will help you sleep, esp mental fortitude and the ability to calm down. Folks in that realm don't appreciate the sauces these bums claim while liking their own comments but that stuff doesn't improve sleep at all
Whilst I agree that steroids can mess up sleep rather than help, the idea that he could dominate CrossFit to the extent he did and not be using PEDs just isn’t logical. It would basically require no elite CrossFitter to be a drugs cheat. That’s how powerful PEDs are- it’s just not possible that a clean athlete could beat a field of less talented enhanced athletes. Doesn’t take away from Matt though, the guy still beat a field of elite dopers, and it doesn’t make him any less of an authority
@@bilbobaggins8440 I’m not talking from a “supplement” perspective, I’m talking about the sheer ability to fit 3-4 training sessions into one day while also finding the time to eat, come up with programming, hell even take a dump while also sleeping 10 hrs a night 😂
A grey person to interview on this topic would be GSP. Dude had that same kind of crazy mindset.
A plus would be his coach Firas Zahabi as well. He has an interesting take on winning mindset and training.
not sure anything was said here … until the last minute. if were talking dark side i would expect a video about how animal sacrifices could increase performance or some arc of the covenant instructions
Polar opposites would be Tiger Woods and John Daly....obviously Tiger has more of everything, but in their prime, Tiger was extremely driven and hit balls 23 hours a day and Daly was at the casino LOL
Exactly.. both loaded to the gills with talent as well. As we can see, Daly is just as good now as he was in his 'prime'. Tiger, not so much. Partially because of injuries, but partially because his mindset has accepted he just isn't going to win all the time anymore.
Mt. Whitney!!!
Painting by David Pirrie
High Expectations
High Standards
That is probably what broke Mal O’Brien
Eliud Kipchoge
For the algo gainz
that aged well with mallory
His secret to winning was taking steroids and not getting caught. Had the same doctor as Tom Brady.
Would be nice to mention Cristiano Ronaldo as well
Stay hard
Tren hard, Test your limits, Anavar give up.
Are you saying 30th at the games isn’t close to winning? Jesus Christ
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Every time Fraser is discussed on this channel I think they’re going to finally bring up how he’s a fake natty.
Lol we all know his secret
:)
Canadians used to always being a bridesmaid never a bride, is it capability or potential? No these dudes are beasts but they are severely weak mentally prob because Canada.
You’ve obviously thought this out really well. Thanks for the laugh.
Extremely hard working, dedication and peds.
To think any top athlete isn't using is stupid. Especially in strength based sports