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- Former NFL head coach Eric Mangini joins Cris Carter and Nick Wright to discuss Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady being tied for 1st in NFL executive rankings of all starting QBs. Mangini makes the case for his top QB.
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Who do you think is the better QB?
Aaron is better but not greater.
Rodgers better arm Tom is smart so is Rodgers but when it comes to mobility to move in and out the pocket Rodgers can do it all.
Joe Montana
Dumb question Aaron Rodgers half the player tb12 is
Rodgers
I think people doesn’t get it. One thing is to be more talented, Rodgers is more talented than Brady. Other thing is to be a better player, Brady is a better player. I think their careers made that clear, if you search for Rodgers highlights you may found better throws, more flashy plays, Haily Marys. Brady’s highlights are less flashy, more rhythm thrower, tons of legendary comebacks and throws in the big moments (playoff, Super Bowl) If you see Rodgers play against the Seahawks and The Falcons in the 2014, 2016 NFC championship and then see Brady performance against the same teams in the Super Bowl the comparison is ridiculous.
Ivmarb 87
Aaron Rodgers better QB than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers can beat you throwing inside the pocket
Aaron Rodgers can escape and throw rockets downfield outside of the pocket check the two hail marys out vs Lions and Cardinals
Tom Brady can't make plays that Aaron Rodgers can
Aaron Rodgers stronger arm and more mobile and better deep ball thrower than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers can make plays than Tom Brady can
Aaron Rodgers higher passer rating than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers better Td to Int ratio than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers 104.1 passer rating highest in NFL history
Aaron Rodgers best Td to Int ratio in NFL history
Aaron Rodgers 16 touchdown passes of +70 yards NFL Record
Aaron Rodgers 300 touchdown passes with fewer than 100 Ints only Quarterback in NFL history to accomplish this
Aaron Rodgers 122.5 passer rating highest in a season
Aaron Rodgers 6 touchdowns in a half most ever in one half
Had Packers not had such a big lead Aaron Rodgers would have set record most touchdown passes in a game
Ivmarb 87
NFC Championship
Falcons 44 Packers 21
Packers defense gives up 44 points
Falcons 7 Packers 0
Aaron Rodgers gets into FG range Kicker missed FG
Falcons 10 Packers 0
Aaron Rodgers gets into red zone and Fullback Aaron Ripkowski fumbles at 5 yard line
Superbowl
Patriots 34 Falcon 28
Patriots defense only gives up 21 points to Falcons high power offense
Tom Brady throw Int pick 6 for Falcons other 7 points
Martel Porter hes tied with Daryle Lomonica with 6 touchdowns in a half in 1969. Daryle did it with only 17 attempts as well.
Also he is tied with Peyton Manning with 16 70+ yard touchdown passes.
But Tom Brady is the ONLY player to throw 5 touchdowns in a single quarter.
RefillForever 💯👌👍👍 thank you.
RefillForever couldn't have said it any better myself.. TB12 is the G.O.A.T
There's a difference between physical ability and the ability to perform. There's also the ability to lead.
ALL CAPS MEANS I'M SERIOUS!!!!
Woah all caps, must mean business
@NEVER TRUST A COMMUNIST LIKE CFR CHINA JOE okay and what do you mean if you have even seen clips and highlights of Tom Brady you'll see he's a pretty good athlete not the best but he's a pocket passer not a mobile qb and Brady rarely underthrows balls probably just as many as other "elite" QBs,yea he had a bad combine but there are many great and elite players who had a bad combine. people are just to upset to except the truth because they're but hurt their favorite team doesn't win or go to the superbowl as much as Tom Brady and the Patriots. also look at some stats if your unwilling to watch highlights and clips from his early career to now
Why is this still in question? I really can't stand Brady, but he is no doubt the greatest QB and leader in history. Hands down, no question.
Just why can you not stand Tom Brady? Even players from other teams say they were mistaken once they worked with him. Jealousy breeds this hate. Is he supposed to be less to be liked?
SEAVet69 that is probably the most sanctimonious nonsense judgemental comment I’ve read in a long long time. 🤣
Congratulations
Can’t stand Brady, and I like Rodgers a lot more, but with that being said, Brady is the better QB. Best I ever seen.
Try and make your case without emotion or personal and unproven attacks.
Rodgers 3 years to develop behind a legend
Tom 1 year develop behind meehh bledsoe
Tom is the greatest not even close
Favre didn't develop Rodgers he actually didn't like him and he's made that clear
listen, i agree t brady is better then rodgers, not just god given talent, but bledsoe wasnt just a meh, bledsoe was a franchise qb
Tom Brady is the greatest to ever play football. End of discussion 👍
No
@@chickenrico5974 get outta here you sore loser. Bucs going to SB55 and Packers aren't. End of discussion
@@lincoln9939 yea the bucs are, congrats to the bucs but were talking about brady N he didn't play good. Wins aren't always a qb stat obviously bc brady just got bailed out once again
@@chickenrico5974 remind me again how many super bowl appearances has this dude been to
@@chickenrico5974 .... he holds all NFL records for QB's, he has more Rings than NFL organizations do.
all QB's get bailed out by their defenses all the time Einstein, that's why they're called "Football Teams"
I'll take Brady's edge in the intangibles over Rodgers's edge in the tangibles anyday. It's Brady's intangibles that makes the right decisions in the biggest moments of the biggest games in the postseason, it's the number 1 reason the Pats our 5 SB winners..
Robert Snell W
ughhh the biggest reason is the coach, the kicker and his o-line and his defense. wait what does tom do with all this? ohhh wait the same every other able would do....win.
Ari Stamas - other than XXXVI, when did the kicker play a significant role for the Pats. I'll wait.
+maurice wilson which two was that? I'm dying to know.
Genius, spygate was in 2007 and if you think that an imperceptible amount of air loss due to the Ideal Gas Law won the Patriots a Super Bowl then you are the biggest loser I have ever seen.
The season the pats beat the falcons should tell people Brady is better than Rodgers. The falcons played the Packers right before they played the pats in the SB, Aaron could not will his team back against the falcons. Brady did. Enough said.
Ronald Williams the falcons put up 30 against us and put up 20 against the patriots soo who’s more likely to make a come from behind win??? Ofc its tom brady lets be real here if your D gives up 30+ points idc how great you are you will lose that game plain and simple
Steve Johnson blaming the defense when he under preformed?
Fatal Rodgers underperform? He had more points before the 4th than brady..
Rodgers also had better stats in the game ..
Moron😂
SuperSayianCurry better stats go look at their stats again
No, the falcons blew that game, they had that game won
Everyone is talking about how Rodgers has the arm talent, because it's so obvious, but doesn't mention the things you can't see. Brady gets more out of players than Rodgers ever will. Edelman was an ex Kent State QB drafted in the 7th round. Welker was undrafted and on three different practice squads. Hogan was playing lacrosse at Monmouth. Aside from Moss and Gronk, Brady hasn't had elite receivers around him. Bradys will to win, his clutch factor, his drive, his work ethic, his energy at the start of games, and calmness at the end of them, are what make him great. Some people are just born to be winners no matter what, and they're very few of them. Brady elevates the play of his team around him. Give Rodgers the cast offs and misfit players Brady has worked with, and he isn't nearly as successful. And when Brady does have Moss or Gronk, he sets records. And I don't want to hear how Rodgers doesn't have a defense, because Brady got to two Superbowls with the 30th ranked defense. Brady wins no matter what team he has.
Joseph DeRoche Ever thought about System that make these guys to though Brady makes them better to.....Welker actually made the all pro team with a underdeveloped product Quarterback at the time in that system.
Brees never gets respect. Its Brady, Rodgers, and Brees then everyone else. He's been an elite qb just as long as they have.
Brees carried a 20+ ranked defence to the chip, something Brady will never be able to say. all 5 of his rings he had a top 8 scoring defence
JAYWOR1D actually Brady got a 20+ defense to the super bowl twice, they were just so bad that they lost last year, and they gave it away in 2012 as well. The saints defense was great in the super bowl that year. And btw yes Brees should be in the discussion for best QB in football. It is easily Brady Rodgers Brees in that top tier
Jack Mulligan he said scoring defense last year agains the eagles Brady had a top 10 scoring defense I think they were 5th
Blake Masters oh ok, but to be fair by every other metric they were awful, and they were awful in the playoffs as well which is why they didn’t win.
Jack Mulligan case and point for Aaron Rodgers his defense can’t sop nobody from scoring
“You have a chance to win the super bowl with either one of these guys” I don’t see the packers in the super bowl every year
AFC= weak Brady division= weak = easy playoff birth win a couple games and you get a ring. Easy games easy wins. Stop looking at one man and look at the big picture
carlton colvin AFC may be “weak” but 5 out of 8 times, Tom Brady has beat the best the NFC has had to offer.
I’m a huge Brady fan and I believe he’s the goat but if Rodgers was in NE it’s likely he’d compete every year for the SB just like Brady has. I’m not gonna diminish Rodgers just cuz I think Brady is better
The winning percentage of Brady in the AFC east is virtually identical to his winning percentage in other divisions.
Adam Villalobos I agree with you! I believe both Rodgers and Brady are amazing quarterbacks. Both most likely being future HOF’s. But currently Brady is better, im not saying Aaron Rodgers is bad; I just feel Brady is better.
Aaron Rodgers is 0-36 when trailing by more than 1 point in the 4th quarter against teams with a winning record. Case closed
Malevolent Elephant really?
I’m a diehard Brady fan but I believe the number is 2/3- but I could be wrong. Regardless Tom Brady performs much better than Aaron Rodgers in big games against good teams
Malevolent Elephant 1-35*
Malevolent Elephant
Aaron Rodgers better QB than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers can beat you throwing inside the pocket
Aaron Rodgers can escape and throw rockets downfield outside of the pocket check the two hail marys out vs Lions and Cardinals
Tom Brady can't make plays that Aaron Rodgers can
Aaron Rodgers stronger arm and more mobile and better deep ball thrower than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers can make plays than Tom Brady can
Aaron Rodgers higher passer rating than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers better Td to Int ratio than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers 104.1 passer rating highest in NFL history
Aaron Rodgers best Td to Int ratio in NFL history
Aaron Rodgers 16 touchdown passes of +70 yards NFL Record
Aaron Rodgers 300 touchdown passes with fewer than 100 Ints only Quarterback in NFL history to accomplish this
Aaron Rodgers 122.5 passer rating highest in a season
Aaron Rodgers 6 touchdowns in a half most ever in one half
Had Packers not had such a big lead Aaron Rodgers would have set record most touchdown passes in a game
Davion Rison
Rodgers is the best thrower of the football ever, much as Steph Curry is the best shooter ever. But Curry isn't better than Lebron, and Rodgers isn't better than Brady
Malevolent Elephant
Aaron Rodgers better QB than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers can beat you throwing inside the pocket
Aaron Rodgers can escape and throw rockets downfield outside of the pocket check the two hail marys out vs Lions and Cardinals
Tom Brady can't make plays that Aaron Rodgers can
Aaron Rodgers stronger arm and more mobile and better deep ball thrower than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers can make plays than Tom Brady can
Aaron Rodgers higher passer rating than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers better Td to Int ratio than Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers 104.1 passer rating highest in NFL history
Aaron Rodgers best Td to Int ratio in NFL history
Aaron Rodgers 16 touchdown passes of +70 yards NFL Record
Aaron Rodgers 300 touchdown passes with fewer than 100 Ints only Quarterback in NFL history to accomplish this
Aaron Rodgers 122.5 passer rating highest in a season
Aaron Rodgers 6 touchdowns in a half most ever in one half
Had Packers not had such a big lead Aaron Rodgers would have set record most touchdown passes in a game
How many of those stats help win games? Not many.
Martel Porter Brady makes everyone better not by throwing but by is work ethic like Jordan he puts that pressure on you to be a perfectionist meticulous Japanese freak 😂 . Rogers complain or put a belt around him like a world champ wwe. That my friend is why he can have all the talent in the world but never be better then Brady. A lot came and went but Brady remains and will forever until someone gets that drive like him. He use the most important skill set of them all the brain since he didn’t have the body like rogers. Rogers rely on his body and not his brains like tom. It’s chess not checkers. Debate all you want but Brady don’t have to get outside the pocket with mediocre oline because those oline will protect Brady with theirs lives because they know he will win the game. Rogers think it’s all him Brady thinks it’s all team and staff . Brady yes and bill implemented a culture of perfectionist either good or bad it work for decades. It’s all about mindset and how you maximize your potential. Rogers doesn’t he can but doesn’t. Brady go to the extreme just like Kobe even to the point of excluding is family it’s a drive that some have and some don’t and that my friend is a big difference. Ppl are scared of Brady not rogers when Brady gets the ball in 4th you can actually see the pressure in the defense eyes , rogers they just know he will make a mistake and force it Brady they know they have to be perfect and lucky to stop him. Remember always HARD WORK BEATS TALENT ALL THE TIME. 😁👍 feel free to agree or disagree.
thats not a good comparison lol
Martel Porter
Tom Brady All Time Records
Regular Season Records
Most games won by a quarterback: 196
Best touchdown to interception ratio in a season: 28:2
Most wins on the road by a quarterback: 88
Only quarterback to have three consecutive games with 300+ passing yards, 3+ Touchdown-passes and 0 interceptions
Oldest QB to lead the league in passing yards: 40
Most yards in a single season for a quarterback aged 40 and older (age 40): 4577
Playoffs Records
Most games played: 37
Most games started: 37
Most games won by a starting quarterback: 27
Most consecutive wins, playoffs, by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003-2005)
Most consecutive wins to start a career, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003-2005)
Most career home wins, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 17 (2001-2017)
Most consecutive home wins, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 8 (2001-2007), tied with Jim Kelly
Most touchdown passes: 71
Most passing yards: 10,226
Most passing yards in a single playoff game: 505 (Super Bowl LII)
Most passes completed: 920
Most passes attempted: 1,464
Most passes intercepted: 31
Most division titles won by a starting quarterback: 15
Most NFL conference championship appearances by a starting quarterback: 12
Most NFL conference championship wins by a starting quarterback: 8
Most career 300+ passing yard games, post-season: 13
Most game-winning drives in the playoffs: 11
Most multi-TD passes in the playoffs: 22
Super Bowl Records
Most touchdown passes: 18
Most passing yards: 2,576
Most passes completed: 235
Most passes attempted: 357
Most wins as starting QB: 5
Most passes completed in first half of a single Super Bowl: 20 (XLIX)
Most passes completed in a single Super Bowl: 43 (LI)
Most passes attempted in a single Super Bowl: 62 (LI)
Most passing yards in a single Super Bowl: 505 (LII)
Most Super Bowl appearances: 8
Most passing attempts without an interception in a single Super Bowl: 48 (XLII & LII)
Most consecutive completions in a single Super Bowl: 16 (XLVI)
Brady does not need to run around, he just picks you apart, like a surgeon.
This isn’t even close to a debate Aaron Rodgers can’t even compare to Tom Brady
Brady is the GOAT it’s not even close. I don’t understand why everyone is all over Rodgers nuts all the time dude has one ring. I hate the Patriots and Green Bay but this is dumb.
Why do you judge by jewelry? Rings is a team accomplishment. I might be wrong but I never saw Brady play defense.
Alex S well Arron is more talented and skilled
@@colslaw69 and it is a fact that Brady is a team player every guy I have ever heard teammate or opponent has the highest level of respect for Tom as a teammate and as a QB. Teams do win football games and it is teammates that make teams.
Goat? LMFAO. Imagine if Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Young, Montana, etc played nearly their whole career for a cheating coaching staff and then cheated themselves on top of it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tom they need to learn how to cheat better
Tom Brady 58 4th QTR comebacks - Arron Rodgers 14 .. nuff said ❗
One has been around longer with a better defense. That proves what again?
Andy Dalton, Andrew Luck, Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, Alex Smith, Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, Jay Cutler, Philip Rivers, Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger and Tom Brady all have more. And those are just the active players. There are 65 retired QBs with more than Rodgers too.
Deep_Convection It's not just that Brady has played more games with better defenses. Usually Rodgers' offenses score so much that 4th quarter comebacks aren't even possible or necessary.
Mr. Blue Cherry Brady's defenses have been far better than Rodgers' defenses. Brady has been on 14 top 10 scoring Ds in his career. Rodgers? 2.
Jebediah Springfield The QB led offense makes ur defense better, why is that so hard to understand . Brady keeps his teams on the field longer to give his team more rest, that's what the team leader does..
Rodgers is the Corvette that is flashy but always ends up breaking down..
If we are talking about talent and ability then there are many qbs better than Brady. But Brady plays the position the best. Ex. Since Brady knows he can't scramble as well as other qbs he puts more emphasis on check downs, timing, pocket mobility, hot routes, throwing the ball away, etc. That 5 or 10 yd plus that another qb can get with his legs Brady gets that same result with knowing his protection, being mobile in the pocket and checking down to that slot or rb who can get those yds better than he could. The results are the same; forward progress, 1st down, touchdown or If all else fails and Brady throws it away he'll live to see another play. Brady does these things better than any qb in the league. Execution is the name of the game. There are many wide recievers in the history of the NFL that are faster, quicker, and stronger than Jerry Rice but none of them executed the position at the level he did. That simple
Yep same with AB and LeVeon Bell right now. Both not the fastest in their position but still best players. Somehow people get so caught up in highlight plays and stats they forget it's about WINNING
Actually looking at AB is a very good analogy right now.
Listening to all the talking heads in the off season you get a lot of the "Who's the best WR?" conversations. Nuk slips in as does OBJ sometimes but it usually comes down to Julio and AB.
Almost everyone will give you that AB has mostly out performed Julio (even if only slightly most of the time) but they always come back to how Julio checks all the boxes if you were going to just create your perfect WR while AB was a 6th round pick (2nd best 6th round pick ever?) and is kinda small.
But most likely he will go out and get a few more yards than Julio and triple him up in TDs.
Rodgers is Julio - Looks better and checks more boxes while being highly productive while Brady is AB - the guy who wasn't supposed to be this great and physically doesn't compute but is just the more productive guy when you actually play the games.
Exacltly. People love physical freaks like Julio or Megatron because they could never be that guy. Guys like Brady and AB show you all the potential you wasted because you didn't work hard enough.
Still Brady is VERY talented, one of the best arms in football, amazing accuracy, very mobile in the pocket and durable. Guys on these shows talk about him like he's some unathletic shmuck sometimes which is laughable.
Not only would I take Brady over Rodgers, I would take Brees over Rodgers.....if that’s blasphemous, so be it.
Morpheus W
Morpheus I Would To
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Blasphemous
I 100% agree brees is way better than Rodgers and is right up there with Brady
both TB12 & AR12 going to be in the HOF when it's all said & done the game of football is truly bless to have 2 great QB in the game today
The game been good to me.. We're blessed with another goat, deshaun w
+Thomars Carter your logical opinion and generally positive out look has no place in these comments!
Well said
1 super bowl win shouldn't get one into the hall of fame.through he's thrown a shitload rogers is the int. king current players in the nfl even winning that title and not mvp's like tom did in 3 years running he threw more to rivils then his recivers.
I really don’t know what is there to compare here?!!! TB12 is the one and only, end of story.
How you say you got a chance to win a Super Bowl with Aaron “every year?”
Brady all day!!! Rodgers has better talent but Brady has better determination, heart and toughness.
Marino was WAY more talented than Joe Montana. But he wasn’t better
But trent Dilfer and Eli manning are? What about Joe Flacco? lol Rings aren't everything
Montana had a better team
You're both right, Marino was far more skilled, and the 90's 49ers / Cowboys had HoFers at every position. What Marino lacked, and Brady / Montana have, is that mental toughness, when the pressure is on, they play better. Most people, most QB's, don't play better post season. The stakes are just too high for them. That was true of Marino, that was true of Peyton Manning, Warren Moon, most of the great QBs.
Arm talent marino by far but ability on the move making plays joemon
He was better but montana was GREATER
These fools are ridiculous ...
Brady and Rodgers are not even comparable..., Rodgers is just another QB.
Brady is The GrandMaster !!!
The Odessa Angels Channel Absolutely!
Nick is a clown , he says that brady is the goat because of his accomplishments , but yet he wont admit that MJ is the goat
313 JMO In weak East LeBron would be sorry if he didn't make it to the finals with the teams he was on. In the west Lebron would not have made it to that many finals.
313 JMO bruh Football is a lot different. QBs don't even touch the field for half of the game. Football is Waaaaaaay more of a team sport. Bradys had 14 top 10 scoring defenses in his Career. I believe Rodgers has had 3 or 4. Rodger's defense has given up as many 30+ point games in the playoffs as Bradys teams.... Bradys played more than double the amount of playoff games.
AVI accomplishment wise Kareem abdull jabbar is the GOAT. He has more MVPs, same amount of rings, more finals appearances, more of every stat then both MJ and LBJ. We don’t use accomplishments in the NBA as the deciding factor because we need context. Lebron has won 4 MVPs in the most talented era the league has ever seen. Kobe won a single MVP in the same era does that not prove and show how insane Lebron is? To play in the same era as Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Durant, Steph. And to have 2-3 more MVPs and be far and wide the best player in the world with all of those guys. Lebron is the greatest individual basketball player ever. Best all around player ever. Just put together the single best individual playoff run in nba history. Averaged 35/9/9 on 54% from round 1 to the finals. With multiple buzzer beaters to save his team. Won 2 game 7s. No one had ever beat Boston in a game 7 at the garden since the 80s....
313 JMO yeah Brady went to 1 SB w/o a top 10 Defence and he lost he wouldn't have even made that SB if Billy Cundiff wasn't one of the biggest chokers in nfl History.... Rodgers has way more time to reach a SB than LBJ does to win more rings and TB only has 2 rings in the last 13 years. He had the best defence in the league and the clutchest kicker in NFL history to help him win him 3 SBs. Tom Bradys passer rating was barely at 90 when he won those first 3 rings lol. Pre 2005 Tom and Post 2005 tom are much different QBs.
Donnie Darko you're calling the Eastern confrence weak, but should also remind everyone about the 5 free wins Brady gets year round the AFC East
Rodgers even says himself that Brady is the g.o.a.t. !
Based on talent or capabilities Rogers is better than TB12. But TB12 always somehow delivers a great performance. Aaron is great but he did not perform with lesser material and TB12 did.
Rogers hasn't had a good defense or a good coach they had a good defense 1 year and won the Superbowl. Brady has a great coach good not great receivers and one of the best TE ever in gronk rogers is better
Mananare3 you know about the guys Aaron Rodgers is throwing to because he makes them so good. No one new Geronimo Allison or Randall Cobb but they do now
Mananare3 so then that would make brady the best
FREDDY GEE can tell you don't know football
Armando Pacheco Soto
Aaron Rodgers is like 0-36 when trailing by more than 1 point in 4th quarter against teams with a winning record.
This not even a debate
ALPHA EMPEROR bradys old And he will retire and new England will go back being win less.
Football is chess, not a talent show. I’ll take the smartest qb in the game in Brady over Rodgers any single day. Once you reach the nfl level talent is a thin difference. But intelligence and leadership are oceans apart with a lot of guys. Brady is the best at both as a QB
Tom Brady is a leader.
Having Belichek helps a lot but his presence on the field is a much bigger impact then having Rodgers. The numbers are too big to ignore
Bill belichick's record without Tom Brady it's a below .500
I'll take the guy with multiple rings and Super Bowl RECORDS and SB MVP's
Brady is the GOAT, not a debate
Just like @Rico Youngblood implied, Brady plays in the era were if you sneeze on a quarterback, you get fined. The current league is slanted to favor passing, and by extension, quarterbacks. AFAIC, Joe Montana is better, and Jerry Rice, who holds over 100 NFL Records is the actual GOAT.
Kaque Burlington
I can’t give him GOAT yet, but he’s dam close! I come from the Montana generation, so I’m a little biased!
Rico Youngblood players now hit harder
He's just the best of this generation. Montana was way better. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
lol! u think he is the goat. u dont know details. bottom line u trade teams that pack team might make the playoffs with brady. rodgers with that coach and that defense 14-2 every year and a ring on his finger....simple
When people make cases for AR is stats. Nobody never mention winning which is how people suppose to judge quarterbacks. I wonder y that is? Lol!
Tom Brady's interception ratio and completion percentage is up there as all time greats and that is with him throwing the ball away as opposed to extending it like Aaron and inspite most of his picks coming off tipped balls. There is a reason even this year PFF had him as the 3rd best QB this year.
Absolutely no idea why the obsession with Rodgers. Wait until he’s in his twilight years then compare him to the QB goat. Belichick is a defensive guy so that’s a poor argument for how Brady plays as a QB. I wouldn’t even put Rodgers in same conversation as Montana, let alone Brady...
Belichick couldn't even develop a QB. Mike McCarthy developed Rodgers. Brady had personal coaches that worked on his mechanics. Garrapola and Cassell were just talented QBs coming out of draft. Bill can draft and coach a defense, he can't develop a Qb tho
People always talk about the huge advantage having Belichick as a coach makes but never ever cite actual examples of what he does. Obviously he's a great coach but it certainly is a poor argument for why Brady might not be the GOAT. People also act like the Patriots defense is top 5 every year. I remember when Brady and the offense dragged a bottom 3 defense in the entire league to a Super Bowl. I remember when he dragged a defense that while ranking highly in points allowed (or it might've been in red zone conversion rate I forget) was middle of the pack at best and got completely exposed in the Super Bowl against the Eagles. I remember when the defense bled like a sieve against the Jets, Broncos, Chiefs, Ravens, Jaguards etc. etc. Yet the Patriots still made it deep into the playoffs simply because Tom's prowess at playing QB kept the Patriots in games even when their defense couldn't stop a group of fourth graders even if they had grenade launchers.
Career average yards per completion: Brady *11.7* Rodgers *12.2* What a huge difference...
*Peyton Manning 11.7* *Drew Brees 11.4*
I think Chris Carter is currently the most insightful and unbiased analyst in today's media.
Brady is a better pre-snap defense reader and better post-snap reader. As a result, brady gets them in a better play pre-snap than rodgers. As a result, Brady doesn't have to bail out of a play like Rodgers. Because Rodgers has superior physical talent, I think he robs HIMSELF of improving in the strategy part of the game and bails out too early even when there is very little, to no pressure. You won't see him snap throw nearly as much as he could. Watch a game closely to look at how many times he doesn't throw to quickly open WRs, but will wait, then bail. Brady excels in every situation (rodgers does in most). old offense, new offense, good oline, no oline, good offensive weapons, no offensive weapons, against great offenses, bad offenses, inside domes, outside cold weather. BIG games.
It sounds like I'm downing Rodgers, but I'm not. It's as close to a toss-up as can be. I wouldn't be disappointed in getting either one of them over the other. These two are clearly head and shoulders better than everyone else.
not to mention the intangibles. Tom uplifts his team a lot better than Rodgers
Alexis Jones is that you, son?!!!!!
Only #12 that's deserving of the number is Brady. Not A.Rod and not A.Luck.
Asama B Ladin bradshaw 4 sbs in 6 yrs is not worthy of #12. Smh
So if nick is going by arm talent, how is Aaron Rodgers better than Matthew stafford. Stafford probably has the more talented arm. Stafford carries his team just like Rodgers. Only difference is Rodgers win and stafford doesn’t. So winning matters that’s why Tom Brady is miles ahead of Rodgers
Brady is the GOAT because he have to adjust with the new player most every year...
Like Gronkowski?
Tom terrific is the greatest winner of all time. Always delivers in 4qtr.
Slim Kingslayer Reaper what happened in Super Bowl 53 in the two clutch opportunities he had?
Tyler Wells he fail just like lebron 2018 final. Did everything and the team fail him
Tyler Wells I don't know yet. Super Bowl 53 is next year.
Do Tom Deliver or do his Defense not giving up points Deliver
Slim Kingslayer Reaper not this year
Even as a fan of a team who lost to him in the SB, I’m taking Brady. Rodgers is great moving out of the pocket but I think Brady is better moving with in the pocket to extend plays in a less flashy way. His performances against the legion of boom in the 4th quarter was magnificent, his 2nd half against ATL was just ridiculous and by all accounts Brady is a better leader which accounts for something. You can say Rodgers has better numbers all time but Brady was more of a game manager when he came into the league so his numbers won’t stand out as much. You can say Rodgers was never a game manager so that makes him better, but Rodgers wasn’t even playing when got drafted. GB worked with him a lot when he was young to help make him the QB he is now.
If you have an O line give me brady, if you don't give me Rodgers. It's as simple as that.
Rodgers hardly has better numbers and sometimes worse numbers!! Brady is better
Timo - for the last 5 years Pro Football Focus has rated Green Bay's o-line better than New England's.
In case you had any doubts : 2013 : www.profootballfocus.com/news/2013-offensive-line-rankings 2014 : www.profootballfocus.com/news/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings 2015 : www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-this-season 2016 : www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-this-season
Pro Football Focus had the Packer O-line ranked 17 spots higher than New England's last year.
www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-line-units-heading-into-the-2017-season
Take a lap
If you compare the numbers since Rodgers joined the league brady has better numbers
I’ve seen Rodgers make amazing throws, but I’ve also seen him make some horrendous decisions with the football. Brady just doesn’t do that. That’s the difference.
Rodgers stats wise is just as good as Steve young. Brady is beyond everyone. Brady makes everyone great around him a leader. Rodgers is very talented and smart too. But isn't must of a leader than Brady.
Rodgers is definitely a better QB at a physical stand put but Tom is who I want when my back against the wall
The common script is that Rodgers plays mediocre and the defense gives up enough points that it is hard to win. Without any real pressure Rodgers plays great and gets it kinda close again but is rarely ever able to finish it be it they were just to far behind or the defense does give up another score at some point.
Brady just finished his age 40 season.
Rodgers is 34 so has 6 seasons to reach that age.
If Rodgers goes 16-0 in all 6 of those seasons... He will still be 6 wins behind Brady right now.
Let's say in those 6 seasons he goes to all 6 Super Bowls and wins 4 of them.
He will TIE Brady with 5 SB Wins.
Will trail Brady by 1 SB appearance.
His total of 9 Conference Championship games will be 3 less than Brady.
By going 16-2 (Those 16 wins alone ties Montana for 2nd most playoff wins) his total 25 playoff wins will still be 2 less than Brady.
For those that feel winning footballs games is less important than how a guy performs on your fantasy team...
If Rodgers matches his seasonal averages for his 8 full seasons as a starter (so taking out 2013 and 2017) he will still be well behind Brady in completions and yardage, but would catch him in TDs.
This is if Brady never plays again and Rodgers has no regression from 35-40 from his 25-34 peak seasons.
Rodgers is Great but Brady is the GOAT.
Hard to win when your defense doesn’t make stops. Only way for Brady to come back so much is his defense doesn’t give up points. Look at SB 52 Brady put up 41 but y’all patriots fans finally got to see what happens to Rodgers
Rodgers let his team get down 31-0. Not scoring for the fist 35 minutes of the game doesn't help your defense.
+Droids yeah the fact that Rodgers has had above average defenses half his career and NEVER a truly horrible one totally makes up that difference.
why do football fans even bother mentioning any quarterbacks' names in the same sentence as Tom Brady? C'mon now, People.
If you're measuring the physical traits, it's Aaron Rodgers hands down - end of debate. But it's not all physical. It's the performance under pressure, the comebacks, the leadership, the decision making, all the intangibles that separate the great from the good and great from the all-timers. Joe Montana was not the most physically gifted player of his era - it was either Elway or Steve Young but he was regarded as the best until Brady challenged it. The best WR of all time is not the most physically gifted. Randy Moss, TO, and even less accomplished WR are more physically gifted than Jerry Rice, but he's the best to do it at his position. Dominique Wilkins, a HoFer, is hands down more physically gifted than Larry Bird. But you wouldn't put him in the same class.
Until Rodgers add more to his resume, the G.O.A.T discussion is centered around Brady, Montana, Unitas and Manning.
Brady= 8 superbowl appearances - Rodgers = 1..... yea enough said
Austin Ryan 3 Superbowl losses😂
If Brady and Rogers swap spots in history, than NE has 6-7 Super Bowls by now and Brady retired 3 years ago after being a game manager for his entire career
Elijah Powell ... ridiculous theory
Rogers is more physically talented than Brady, and under Belichick he would've flourished more, and in turn, would've accomplished more. Your right, it is a ridiculous theory, but hypothetical theories often are.
Austin Ryan what was Bills record b4 brady?
8 Superbowls.
great analysis! love this!
Rogers, ooooooooverrated
I don’t know how and I don’t know why but somehow Lebron and the lakers are gonna come up
Intangibles. Give me Brady all day
Aaron has more talent than Brady, but Brady is too clutch consistently. I rather go against Rodgers with 2 min left than Brady cus ik it's a TD.
Let’s go back to 2011. Both players were coming off amazing seasons. Brady scored the MVP, but sadly lost to Mark Sanchez and the Jets in a one-possession game. Things happen. Rodgers takes an unlikely bunch with an overachieving defense through the NFC and wins the SB. Rodgers had the better year overall, but this year is a new year. Both players have literal bottom-of-the-barrel shitstain defenses. Rodgers wins MVP, looking to repeat his stardom success of last year with a record of 15-1 and...loses to the Giants in a blowout. The Giants later beat the Pats, however not before Brady led the team to the first seed AND a SB appearance/near victory. Rodgers’ ship sailed in 2011 as far as I’m concerned.
Tom Brady = MJ
Aaron Rogers = LeBron James
MJ isn't even close to Tom Brady. Tom Brady the GOAT
Nah LeBron is a lot closer to MJ than Aaron Rodgers is to Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers is a known choker.
Rodgers is more like Iverson with a ring.
Don’t care what anybody says or what stats you bring up. Tom Brady is better than the cheese head. Rodgers is overrated he always has been. Period!
LiveLife LS well said
It's Brady, Rodgers, and BREES, and then everyone else in the league.
Rodgers and Brees are on the exact same level, Brady is alone at the top. Reason being - when you're down by 14 in the 4th quarter, there's a feeling that if Rodgers and Brees are playing, then you have a 40% chance of coming back. If it's Brady, you feel like there's a 70% chance of coming back. In the playoffs? You can just forget it. 4th quarter post season play, Brady's 5 or 6 TIMES better than anyone who's ever stepped on a football field.
They don’t even belong in the same book, much less the same conversation. Brady is not only the best quarterback of all time, but the greatest player of all time. BRADY=GOAT.
This debate is simple. If you have an O line give me Brady, if you don't give me Rodgers.
theproperenglishmen lol sure dude ask the 2007 giants how Brady plays under pressure
Timo Cruz Brady led an all-time clutch 80 yard drive & finished it with a TD pass to Moss with about 2 minutes to go in the SB to take a 4 point lead. If it wasn’t for the helmet catch, that would’ve been his 6th final drive come from behind 4th quarter SB win.
Did you watch the patriots last year?
Jason Childs Yes... Their line was fine lol. Nate Solder one of the best LTs in the game, Giants paid big money for him. Pats are hoping the big boy from Georgia can fill in.
Rodgers' O-line is far better than Brady's. It's not even close.
Tom makes it happen without the ability to scramble or create more time with his legs like Aaron and has to beat every team all based on his arm and mind. Brady > Rodgers
MGTOW Pump & DumpHer ONLY!
Aaron Rodgers got hurt on a cheap shot 🖕
Daniel McKinney this was the stupidest argument I’ve ever heard
How so? Tom doesnt have the ability to move around Rodgers to buy more time to escape pressure, With that Tom knows he needs to make the right read right away and get the ball out with pressure in his face most of the time. Rodgers tends to tuck the ball, Roll out to buy time and wait for a receiver to create seperation. Its hard for any defense to cover anybody past 3-5 seconds so when Rodgers is able to scramble to buy 7-10 seconds its usually a wide open WR or TE.
an analogy would be a guy killing 20 guys with only a pistol vs a guy killing 20 guys with an AK47
Daniel McKinney cause if you knew what you were talking about you would know Rodgers gets more of his work done in the pocket but his greatest strength is on the run
9 minutes for Eric Mangini to explain this? No thanks. If it can't be explained in 2 minutes WITHOUT the bloviating of Wright and Carter, I'm not interested.
Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have able to comeback against Seahawks and Atlanta Super Bowls... that's the conclusion
Brady is in a category of his own... as far as Rodgers, he’ll be compared to guys like Mahones... and I’d take mahones because Rodgers collarbone is made of glass
Why do people just ignore brees?
Would have cut Tom? that final statement was just so stupid. Yes there were 4 QBs but he was 2nd on the depth chart and even Bill said Tom was expected to become the starter even if Bledsoe didn't get injured. The injury only moved up the time line.
Plus Brady’s taking pay cuts and every offseason it’s how much Aaron Rodgers want
Hmmmmmmmmm one wins with what ever he is given. The other does not.
Brady has better stats in 2017, 2015, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2007
Rodgers has had better stats in 2016, 2014, 2008,
Switch 2016 and 2011. Also 08 doesn’t even count since Brady was injured.
What about Arron he was injured two of those years and also didn’t start in 2007
Froilan Sanchez ... All im trying to say is Brady has amazing stats and the super bowls to go with it, Aaron Rodgers has hardly ever done better than Tom Brady but people act like rodgers has better stats.. They are both GREAT though
Rodgers has better career stats than Brady. Regular season, postseason, Super Bowl, he's been better than Brady at all levels.
Deep_Convection ... Thats not true at all
Both are great quarterbacks, but Brady edges out Rodgers in one thing: EXECUTION.
Rodgers ability to extend plays, to throw athletic passes, to throw miracle passes, and his mobility should be praised.
However Brady has the overall ability to execute, and perform under pressure, and execute plays the way it should be.
Hey Nick, here's a fact on the Bill Bellichick "system." As a head coach he was 41-57 before Brady started a game.
brady 1a rodgers 1b
Without bringing up Super Bowls the only things Rodgers is better than Brady at is athleticism and natural talent. Tom Brady is the ultimate leader of men. Bill Belichick and Brady are a package deal. Yeah Bill had some success without Brady but with Brady he generated 200+ wins. I would be happy to take either guy but Brady is the comeback machine no matter the situation the tenacity and clutch toughness he displays is truly stuff of legend. No way anyone will ever convince me Rodgers is a better leader than Brady
Bryan Mahoney W
3 years later.... Aaron Rodgers wishes he was Tom Brady.
Rodgers is a phenomenal passer. Dan Marino was better Tom Brady is the GOAT 🐐
Being outside the pocket is why Rodgers gets hurt. 5 rings to 1. Always being a contender to being a guy who has yet to prove the 1st ring wasn't a fluke
Hey Hayes
Nope Aaron Rodgers got hurt on a cheap shot
Like Tom Brady got hurt and torn acl in pocket in 2008
Hey Hayes
Brady 2005-2015 went 10 seasons without a Superbowl
Before beating Seahawks
So winning a Superbowl is a team accomplishment not just a Quarterback 😂
Laugh at Tom Brady fanboys who don't understand this
Brady got hurt IN the pocket....your point?
bro.... that title made me click this video... so good job on that...
but comparing brady to rodgers? IS DURP-Tarded.
last i checked rodgers has ughhhh 1 ring? and maybe 2 mvps?
brady is running out of fingers to put rings on....
dont ever try to make that comparison ever again..... and yall do this for a living smh....
Um durp rings = team accomplishment last time I checked Brady doesn't play defense
lmao... thats what you tell yourself to make such an argument even plausible huh?
for sake of an argument, ill play with you.
if i was to use your weird logic, i could say mathew stafford is a better qb than rodgers. i mean stafford doesn't play defense and is on a bad team.
put stafford on the packers and they'd do better.
= your weird logic dude.... wtf lol
I always skip all of the time Nick Wright talks, on all videos, not just this one
Aaron Rodgers is the most talented all around QB EVER. But he’s not willing to do whatever it takes to win.
We judge QBs by rings and always have. But somehow it doesn’t apply to Aaron Rodgers smh. Being more talented doesn’t equal better. Brady is better
Malevolent Elephant didn't appy to Marino either so...
Malevolent by ur definition Trent Dilfer and Eli manning are better than Dan Marino....good job
Timo Cruz and nick foles is on the same level as Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees, and big ben is better than all 3 of them 💀💀💀
Kenan Ford exactly, stupidity at its finest
Rings are a factor, but they aren't the ONLY factor. They are the tie breaker. Obviously some common sense needs to be applied, how much did the QB contribute to getting the ring on his finger. I'd argue Peyton's last ring had little to due with Peyton, regardless of the fact that he's an incredible QB who's had an amazing career.
Rodgers is very good, but there are areas he lacks in. He isn't a great leader, he's off-putting, people don't always respond well to him, and he doesn't elevate the people around him like Brady does.
“Brady and Rodgers and then everyone else.” Uh Ok yeah Brees is nobody I guess then.
For this particular argument, yes. But yeah, he's definitely up there. Brees, in my opinion, has the best of both qbs but ironically hasn't gotten over that final hurdle
Um, what's the final hurdle? How many times has Aaron Rodgers thrown for 5,000 yards? The reason both QBs are at 1 super bowl a piece is strictly because their defenses are usually terrible. The only year Brees had a half decent defense, he won the big game -- and they weren't good, just terrific at forcing turnovers. Green Bay still had a very good Charles Woodson and elite Clay Matthews when they won their super bowl in 2010.
Drew Brees is so underrated it HURTS.
Please stop this Brady is the GOAT of Qbs. Now we should be debating is Brady the GOAT of all NFL....ALL-TIME!!!
Rodgers isn't on the level of Brady other than he can throw good. Bree's is more accurate and has better numbers, Brady has all the stats wins and comebacks he's clutch. Rodgers highlights are Hail Marys which is more the receiver making a play than the QB. Lots of qbs can make the throws.
Aaron is a physical wonder. Tom Brady is the smartest. These aspects can be equally great.
What guaranteed their separate greatness is that one has Belicheck, the other had a packers management squad that couldn’t figure out defence if the manual for it got shoved in their throats.
It sounds like you have never played the sport.
Peter Kay rewatch that Super Bowl and tell me what a great ATHELTE he was then.
Stick to soccer son
Brady>Brees>Rodgers but Rodgers is the most talented
Jeff Janis and Allison both went 150 plus receiving yards in the playoffs a couple of years ago to answer cris carters question
Bradyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Aaron Rodgers is not one of the "greatest QBs ever", stop propagating this nonsense.
5 rings to one. That’s why
Matt Cassel went 11-5 with the pats...
By that logic Robert Horry is better than Jordan.
Rings = TEAM accomplishment, horrible way to rate a player.
Wait for some excuse haha, 5-1 that’s night and day.
Gavin yea but they didn't even make the playoffs. If Tom was there they would have..
Gin-Nius. You can’t compare NBA to NFL. Completely different. And it that era it was a different basketball. The fact Brady has gone to 8 Super Bowls only make the point stronger.
Did they forget how mobile Joe Montana was? He was a excellent scrambler and could throw accurately while on the move. Best QB I've ever seen.
How many times has Greenbay been in the playoffs in the past few years and Rogers hasn't delivered? It seems like it's been quite often, he can't even get to the big game, only once has he gotten to the Superbowl
Legacy wise Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time but Rogers is overall more talented than Brady
Two most important talents for a QB are decision making and accuracy...and Brady is better at both.
theproperenglishman Brady has a completion percentage of 63.9. Rogers has 65.1. Both career average. Rogers 313TD to 78Interceptions.Brady 488TD to 160interceptions. I prefer Rogers Numbers.
Adrian Buck Brady played in 2 different eras with different rules. Nowadays it’s much easier to put up passing stats.
Compare their numbers for the last 8 years and Brady puts up better stats aswell
Thorfinn Can you back that up with numbers please?
Just google it. The only thing Rodgers is better in is passer rating. I suspect you're getting caught up on stats that don't matter, like how Matt Ryan could conjure up a 141+ passer rating in the Superbowl yet Brady could win with a 96 passer rating and utterly, completely pass the "eye-test" as being the most successful quarterback in that game. The only stats that matter are Ws and Ls and Brady crushes everyone who ever lived in them.
rogers chokes in the playoffs brady doesnt...end of story!
rico .warren Rodgers is hailed the greatest for making those Hail Mary passes and people seem to disregard the fact that’s due to his inability to make plays before and therefore has had to rely on those kinds of passes instead of being able to methodically march down the field like Brady does.
Brady has a better system
Brady doesn't, well then maybe he should have held on to the ball last year
Rodgers outperforms Brady in the playoffs by a significant margin.
Jebediah Springfield even that’s not true he got owned by the falcons and Seahawks Tom Brady torched them
Talent doesnt matter when you dont win
8 Superbowl appearances 11 conference championships, most winniest QB, 5 Rings= The God Tom Brady
1 Ring, not been relevant since 2010
=Aaron Rodgers
GREAT ONE