I just got a Ventris a few weeks ago!! I have been looking on the Nuero Community for more "normal" reverb sounds. I love the Soundscapes the ventris can make but, 90% of the time I just need a great hall/spring/plate. I can't wait to try these out!
@@VertexEffectsInc the True Spring algorithm seems nicer and more drippy than the one in the Ventris (which I own) - I reached out to SA but they said it's similar and not too different (so NOT the same!)
I don’t own the true spring pedal but watched a few videos and it seems to sound fuller without much tweaking- I did tweak my Ventris with the app and got a good sound yet not as convincing to me. But the Ventris is my absolute favourite I even sold the BigSky as it had too much imprinting whereas the Ventris stays a bit more neutral if dialled correctly
Source Audio makes pedals the way I wish all pedals were made. You can get every sound you want with simple controls on the actual pedal, and you can really deep dive if you feel like it on the editor. I can't say enough praise about the True Spring and everything Source Audio puts out is really innovative and I haven't got a bad sound out of any of them I've played with
This is why i love the the Source Audio Collider. Some of the best reverbs from the Ventris and really high quality delays. And you can run dual reverb or dual delay settings aswell. Considering the price of 2 reverb units or 2 delay units with that sorta functionality... it's probably the best bang for buck time-based pedal.
100% agree. It takes care of everything I need and more. High quality, versatile, and cheaper than paying for separate reverb and delay pedals. I usually run my collider in parallel so I can use a lot of reverb and have super clear repeats on delays. I also use an expression knob box to control reverb mix/repeats/output.
What I love most about Source Audio is how you can instantly recall any preset with their editor. No more taking pictures of an entire pedalboard and trying to recreate the sound days later only for it to still sound different
Dude, I swear you are the best guitar RUclipsr in my opinion. Always have the easiest to understand knowledge about complicated topics while also being interesting! Keep it up bro!
Wow that’s some beautiful verb. Isn’t it amazing how we still go back to the 80’s for those familiar tones. I don’t think it’s just nostalgia. There’s a reason your hearing a lot of retro in recordings lately. Those tones defined an important music era.
I love the layout and simple preset access. That was one of the things I loved about the Boss DD-20 Giga-delay; so easy to set up for a simple 3-5 song set list. But the ROUTING and programming options on these blow other reverbs and delays out of the water. Way to go, Source Audio! Congratulations on your great ‘verb awakening, Mason!
Just ordered a Collider this morning, looking forward to having some of these tones on my Vertex board. The tone at the beginning of this video is amazing! Awesome video as always Mason!
Really nice video and Ben Forehand is a great player. With my limited mobility, having preset functionality and device connectivity are an absolute must. Pedals like these are a great option. Thanks again and please keep 'em coming.
Most of the money I have ever spent to a piece of gear (that is not an amp neither a guitar) but worth every penny. At that time I was looking for a simple to dial in reverb (but with good tones) (ie. Hermida Audio Reverb 3 which is not so easy to find one where I live) for the sake of rather playing than tweaking I have found the Ventris on one of our local second hand gear site. I was hesitating but finally bought it. Never regretted it.
Nicely done. I love the way you set this up and walked us through it. Sweet playing, too! I love the Source Audio stuff and am saving my money for their compressor, EQ, and now this 😀 Luckily for me, I snagged a Digitech Polara before they stopped making them and have that to enjoy while I wait to upgrade.
I purchased this pedal for my board a couple of weeks ago for its awesome sound, and that it’s so much smaller and compact than many others. It really is a great pedal and will not disappoint.
Felt good to see that I was correct in my reverb studies with the Ventris on my WDW direct board, and the Hardwire Supernatural /Neunaber WET on my main WDW amp board. 👍
Perfect. All examples. Can't over state how much more I like demos that use actual songs as opposed to scale/noodling. It's actual music. I get the Beato copyright discussion etc. I respect artist copyrights, but I also think there is legitimate Fair Use, which can also serve an artist - that is the case here IMO. Nice, listenable music and playing, spread the word about an artist, use an everyman-could-do-this type of set-up. Informative, straightforward, well done.
Perry's song sounded amazing clean and dirty!!! Sounded even better than the original.... Awesome! Thanks for the dedication to the guitar community ❤😁
People always ask what’s the pedal you could not live without. Mine is reverb . The style in which I play doesn’t sound great dry. Don’t use too much gain unless I want to play lead and I set my odr1 on the edge of breakup if the amp I’m playing doesn’t already break up a little. So to me the core of my tone is my reverb stacked with the amp reverb. Add chorus if I want a little different clean sound.
I’ve never seen that waza dimension c pedal before,, thanks for sharing. I’ve always wondered why I never found a chorus that i like,, but always liked that 80’s chorus sound.
Don't sell your Digitech, just save up for the Ventris...you know as I do these channels have to sell product. I too just ordered the Digitech RV-7 on the strength of the Vertex channel...be not afeared it's not the end of the world...
Hello Sir, Im a early subscription love your content..👌🏿😊 I have The Flux Liquid Ambience...A outstanding Multiple ambient reverb..! However, the Ventris Reverb is outstanding...Cheers from Newport Beach, CA. 🌊👋🏿
The Ventris is absolutely great! I've had all of the big box reverbs and this one is every bit as good and with some algos (like the true spring for example) much better than others. I'm running a CXM 1978 right now as my main end of chain reverb, but I'm sure I will own a Ventris again at some point.
I've always taken pride in having many different pedal manufacturer's pedals on my board. I've always felt that I was finding the pedal that sounded right for ME and not being a fanboy and being brand specific. Lots of companies make outstanding pedals. I tried Source Audio Nemesis first a few years ago. Now I'm almost entirely using Source Audio. They really are that good. I have a personal struggle within myself to not have a complete Source Audio board. I really love that company!
Ventris was on my list competing with the Specular tempus by gfi system… They are both incredibly good, but I went with the tempus in the end because I think on modern huge algorithms it’s just a bit stronger👌
No one can replace lexicons sound, specially not the digitch, and I have a Ventris and many lexicons on studio. If u want small lexicon that not fall from PCM era and more pedalboard friendly check out the LXP1
I never tried that. I.have pcm 70 its beautiful But. Don’t use a lot. But. Hardwire is easy to use. Not bad I like it. But have you compared lxp to a hardwire??
Great vid, I love this pedal but don't own one. My buddy has it and I've used it for a tiny bit on my 5-cable-method stereo rig and this thing is an amazing value even though it's not cheap. The routing options are great too and since you've got 2 separate reverb engines you can get some really nice sounds out of it. Peace
It wasn’t the presets or midi for me that pushed me away from the polara, it was the need to make more adjustments via eq and modulation on the reverbs that is making me save up for the ventris. Collider is cool, but I am going big or going home. More importantly, phenomenal video! Exactly how I would use the pedal
Surf music used the fender reverb tank which most people overlook that there is a tube output buffer stage so the spring reverb has an additional tube output buffer stage that is driving the fender amplifier. Also what is overlooked is the fender reverb tank has a tube preamp stage so you're pretty much modifying your fender amplifier to have an additional 12ax7 preamp driver tube driving the front end of your fender amplifier. The spring reverb is just one part of the puzzle, try to use a tube output buffer pedal placed after the DSP spring reverb. When the surf guitarist would turn OFF the fender reverb tank the signal still went through the preamp driver and output buffer stage which drives the fender amplifier differently which is very overlooked as how to get the surf clean tones because the surf clean tones wasn't plugging your guitars output impedance direct into the amplifiers input jack. The fenders reverb tank would change and alter the guitar output impedance driving the amplifier input impedance differently. Also Phil Spector would use 3 different types of echo chambers that were underground on Gold Star studios and other studios in hollywood which the reverb chambers went into the console buss in parallel. This is also overlooked that the consoles send and return buss circuit was driving the reverb tank chambers so you would need a rack mount studio quality send and return circuit to drive your DSP digital reverb. Most producers would not use the AD/DA converters in guitar pedals or in rack mount digital reverbs which they would use high quality studio AD/DA converters to bypass that ones in the unit since they didn't sound that good. This subjects would be nice to make a video lesson about because they are overlooked with using reverb pedals and reverb rack units
I was lining up for the Nemesis / Ventris combo and had the Nemesis, then the Collider came along that covers 90% of my live delay and reverb needs. I still draw out a few settings on an Original Hall of Fame (often as a stack with the Collider), and can draw on an H9 for more unusual 'verbs like Black Hole, etc.. Collider is not nearly as editable as either the Nemesis or Ventris but I like the simplicity of setup. I get where I want to go very quickly. The True Spring is wonderful. I picked up an HX Stomp and need to explore it's latest algo's more, but it is easy to go down the rabbit hole of options with that box I am finding....
Really great sounding reverbs.... I have the Strymon Flint because it's got the Trem as well and that's very useful, but if I had to have a stand alone high end reverb it would probably be this one. Sounds fantastic!
I've used a Strymon Big Sky for years, never really thrilled with its tone or menu navigation. Time for a change. Your previous Hardwire RV-7 video really helped lock down parameters that matter to me (studio-grade tones, ease of use, minimal clutter from unwanted features). Was surprised to see a different recommendation so quickly... OCD mandated I watch for "context". I like Source Audio and their EQ2 pedal is a mainstay on my board. The Ventris sounds really good -> but to my ears not better than the RV-7. This is where the "context" of my question comes in play. I surmise this video was made to offer a worthy alternative for those who consider missing features like presets and MIDI a deal-breaker. My question is, "If the comparison was limited strictly to tonal quality, do you consider the Ventris superior to an RV-7"? I know my comment is already getting long... but I'm adding a description of my use case, as it might be helpful for others wrestling with similar questions. I rarely play live anymore, so my gear preferences are tied almost entirely to tonal quality for recording/production applications. I often record guitar tracks fairly dry and add reverb/delay during the mixing stage (7th Heaven, Lexicon 224, AA Silver/Lemon, etc.). However, there are times when I need to apply time-based effects during tracking to get the feel right (usually Delay Llama and Multivox MX-201). If I'm going to apply reverb on a track recorded with delay/echo, I've found it works best to include in the initial chain for dialing in the interplay of these 2 effects... instead of adding a plugin during mixing.
Update. Based on my affinity for Source Audio (and your recommendation) I seriously considered the Ventris. In the end I concluded it's a substantially better version of a Big Sky, so not what I targeting. The other contender was the Dr. Scientist Atmosphere, and it finished a very close 2nd (how close 2nd? I ended buying one of these too). In the end, I pulled the trigger on a Hardwire RV-7, and long story short it's exactly what I was seeking. In my opinion it sounds better and is more straight forward than my Strymon Big Sky. Since I was targeting a front-end reverb strictly for recording, I didn't really need the Big Sky features that were more conducive for playing live (mentioning this because for live applications the Big Sky or Ventris might be a better option for some people). I'd place the Dr. Scientist Atmosphere somewhere between RV-7 and Big Sky. Plenty of features useful for playing live, and tones nearly on par with RV-7. I highly recommend both RV-7 and Atmosphere.
I really love your videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge, you’re really great. I’m hesitating between the Collider and the Ventris. Do you know if the Collider can produce the same sounds that you made with the Ventris in that video?
While I was watching the Hardwire RV-7 video just now, I was thinking, "Are you telling me that pedal is better than the Source Audio True Spring?" LOL Nope. But used ones are within similar pricing so pick the one you like and go. SA makes some of my favorite pedals.
Unfortunately not a big reverb guy Usually single or double delay and tremolo What would you say besides the R7 that's just a GOOD simple reverb Thanks love the content
I had actually been wondering if you would cover this pedal. I’ve been hearing great things about it, and recently bought one. Still working on getting my pedals setup, but I’m looking forward to being able to use midi with my pedals. Edit: I was going back and forth between the Ventris and the Specular Tempus. Still kinda want the Specular Tempus, but probably don’t need to get one now.
Here's something kinda funny. When you did your premiere/heads up for the RV-7… before the video dropped I snatched one up looking for some great plate. I have the WET…(which I thought/think is still better than the RV7 after comparison) so I got rid of the RV7… But… BUT… In the comments section someone mentioned the Ventris as ‘being the best’… so I grabbed one of those, being in the market for a sound verb, and it IS very good… and cool in all it’s DSP’n …. BUT…. But… I re-purchased an M9, yeah I know, and have decided to just stick with the WET and the verbs within the M9… The OTHER video you did not too long ago giving IT props. Trying to stay a couple steps ahead of your recs… 😂 Quite honestly though... You know who has the BEST 🍕?!! 😉👍🏻 Thats what some of these rec demo vids can be like. Seriously though: Tegeler Audio- Raumzeitmaschine. No one’s touching this. Like for real. #☝🏻🙂
The ventris is really awesome, except the product graphics. The legibility is extremely poor because of the low brightness contrast of the white font on the brushed grey anodized aluminum. I don't know how they've could have missed this. I really love its sounds, features, interfacing options and huge amount of tweakability, but this is so annoying that I honestly thought about repainting the case and relabelling it somehow. Just my oppinion of course, but I thought it's worth to point and out, and it's actually noticeable in some shots in your video.
Was that Landau on the Steve Perry track too? Also, Thru degrees of separation Lincoln Brewster (phenomenal player) had a rendition of the Buckley tune and toured with Perry....
One of my favorite reverbs from the 80’s is the gated reverb..it was on EVERYTHING back then,and on a lot of the FX units of the day..You don’t see it a lot on modern Reverb units…I am using a Supernatural for the awesome Lexicon plate,and Plate Mod…
My Hardwire RV-7 is killer for what I use it for. Plate = solos But yes this has all the bells and whistle’s, been debating this or the collider for quite awhile now.
Dude I was thinking about you this week while watching some current music news. John frusciante of the chili peppers is having major pedal board problems. I thought you would be the perfect man to bring in. Is there a way we can hook you two guys up? He needs an appointment with the rig doctor.
That would be cool! I don't know anyone that knows him. A lot of times they have long-time techs that work on the rigs that are very protective and particular so it can be hard to get them to separate with their gear. I guess you can post to him on socials and tell him to pay us a visit :)
@@VertexEffectsInc I figured that, his Roadies and techs might not want to bring in outside help but we all know he needs a specialist. It's like when your family doctor sends you to a orthopedic doctor. LOL. It would be Cool. Especially after hearing what you did for Wendy and her feedback.
Ive been searching my entire life for that decent reverb that is not overbearing, yet has that spark in tone. I've had many of them over the years. I was going to get this pedal since I have its brother, the delay Nemesis. I like the delay, but it's its own thing too as far as delay, so I carry a second delay BOSS DD3 on my board for light delays and use the Nemesis for heavier delay effects that are more, should I say, modern? I also use sometimes both delays at once, which I found out can be AMAZING! So I ended up with the Hall of Fame II pedal. I like it for a light reverb, but for some reason it's still not what I am looking for. Now I am going to have to shell out more money and just get this one. I mean, at worst it will end up in my dust pile of pedals.
i have a tc electronics hall of fame v2 x 4 and i don't even use it tbh. It has decent hall and room and a shimmer harmonic octave up reverb that's cool, but i just use my twin reverb's spring if i want any verb these daze. I need to sell the tc tbh
I remember being really hyped when the Ventris was released, but also a bit let down when I tried it.I think the room and spring algos are superb and plate is ok, but I was disappointed with the hall and this demo hasn’t changed that view. A real lexicon has the ability to make the reverb part of the overall sound. Like the Big sky, the H9 and the hall algo here the guitar sits on top of the reverb. Of the available pedals I’ve only heard Meris Mercury 7 and Chase Bliss 1978 be able to do that Lexicon thing properly. This is why I still sometimes use old rack units for recording as well as convolution reverbs,though I do use Empress and Eventide for live work. I do still wish though that someone would put some of the Valhalla algos into a pedal.
Sounds like we really hear things differently. Having owned many Lexicon units, and still having a few here for Reverb and Delay, I find it's much closer to the classic guitar reverbs of the 80's and 90's than those you mentioned.
Oh guitarists and their midi 😂 I get it though hahaha I have two multi-channel matrices. All it taught me was that I didn’t want to do that with my guitar gear. I understand the desire in a live context for sure. There’s a reason many of us use it too lol
I just got a UA Golden Reverberator, but wonder if I should have gone with a Ventris instead. Quality is in the same ballpark but Ventris has way more options 🤔
I won’t be buying any of the pedals that use the neuro app based on the reviews for apple products, seems like support from the manufacturer isn’t there. I hope things change in the future to make the consumer feel that all the features they sell you on are good enough to spend your hard earned money on.
Not sure about your experience, but I always had good customer support from Source Audio, especially when I was trying to get up to speed with their software.
Mason, I remember you once saying that the DD-500 is the best digital delay ever. Considering this statement, would you recommend someone gets a DD-500 & a 'Ventris', or would you suggest someone get a 'Collider'. $ not being a factor. Pedalboard footprint, compatibility, superfluous options being the factors. Also, do you know if Source Audio will be adding a screen to the Ventris and/or Collider any time in the near future?
Yes, DD-500 is the best delay multi-effects if you care about tone and actually have owned the representative delays as a baseline ;) . I love the guys that say that "pedal X has the best tape sound" but they've never played a real tape echo. It's like saying that "Paris it the most beautiful city on earth" and you've never been. So as this relates to the Collider, it's a great option and is basically half Ventris, and half Nemesis. However, in most classic rack settings in the 80's and 90's you'd rarely see delay and reverb in the same mix in parallel. Normally you'd have your line out feeding your wet effects, like stereo chorus, then feeding mix #1 with pitch and reverb into mix #2 with stereo delay. If you wanted to do this format with the Ventris, you'd need to put it in a mixer with a Micro Pitch, like the Eventide, both at 100% wet and then feed your DD-500 in stereo after the stereo outputs of your parallel mixer. Something like the Musicom Lab Parallelizer could do this. I don't know about them adding the screen, but your switcher can do all that for you if you you have say an RJM.
Very interesting. I always thought EVH did micropitch, plate reverb & digital delay all in parallel. It sounds like instead the micropitch & reverb are in parallel, then mixed and fed into delay. I think you can also accomplish this flow with the Eventide H90. It has a insert loops and allows mixing external boxes in series or parallel, and includes phase correction and can do the mixing, like Parralelizer or Duophony. So you’d have micropitch || Ventris plate going -> DD-500. Have you tried the Boss SDE 3000EVH? Any thoughts vs the DD-500? It’s wet/dry/wet implementation is supposed to be actually mix/dry/mix, but it’s unclear how you’d stack that with the other effects.
I got their collider. It sounds good but I wanted to free up some space and have midi controlled verb and delay. The verb easily replaced my cathedral but the delay fell shy of replacing memory man. And since then now the new boss re 202. So I guess it’s nice having that delay option and both being midi. The delay was just too narrow for me though.
Check out a reaver pedal called a "vongon" that's the pedal's name and the model of the pedal is ultra sheer it's supposed to emulate the lexicon rack mountain units and the 70s and early 80s and they have down sampled down to 16 bit so they must be a down converter to convert the bits down to 16 bits and it doesn't have any glitching or problems with it to get you that exact sound check it out. Maybe you can make a video lesson about it with other reverbs that you have found that are new that are trying to simulate rack mount '80s reverb units I'm sure there is other pedals being made that are trying to incorporate the rack mount units in the pedal forms now
@@emmanuelleroy2915 the prices to make the pedals is also getting expensive, the amount of margin on these pedals is not what you think it is. Most companies are making less than $50 profit at best on a $200 pedal and that doesn't consider their other costs for insurance, payroll, taxes, lease, utilities, etc.
@@VertexEffectsInc yes u right I wasn’t thinking that far…… It’s just my future gear list is getting longer by the day….. so I’m thinking damn it’s going to take a while until I build my rig 😂☹️….. but I will be aiming for this pedal since I see it has so many good reviews…. Just venting on my bruised bank account
Recently got a Quad Cortex to replace my amp and board...but I kept the Ventris patched into loops 1/2. Controlled all by a MIDI cable. All on a Temple Audio board with a single PowerCon.
Darn it… I was gonna buy this and now prices will jump 15+% Had the collider and sold it cause I’m stupid. lol I sortve don’t get the point of dual reverbs for most folks, since not many folks are live running (and most can’t hear any difference) running hard pans.
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I have been looking on the Nuero Community for more "normal" reverb sounds. I love the Soundscapes the ventris can make but, 90% of the time I just need a great hall/spring/plate. I can't wait to try these out!
@@ryancross2779 have fun with them!
@@VertexEffectsInc the True Spring algorithm seems nicer and more drippy than the one in the Ventris (which I own) - I reached out to SA but they said it's similar and not too different (so NOT the same!)
@@MusicFed did you use the Neuro App to edit? I got my to be pretty dead on for a spring sound.
I don’t own the true spring pedal but watched a few videos and it seems to sound fuller without much tweaking- I did tweak my Ventris with the app and got a good sound yet not as convincing to me. But the Ventris is my absolute favourite I even sold the BigSky as it had too much imprinting whereas the Ventris stays a bit more neutral if dialled correctly
Source Audio makes pedals the way I wish all pedals were made. You can get every sound you want with simple controls on the actual pedal, and you can really deep dive if you feel like it on the editor. I can't say enough praise about the True Spring and everything Source Audio puts out is really innovative and I haven't got a bad sound out of any of them I've played with
Agreed! Great pedals!
Nah. No digital menu. Saving presets in cumbersome
Now if they could make them affordable too $430 fuk dat
@@Starch1b2c3d4a haven't found that to be true.
@@blakjack3053 name a comparable reverb that's more affordable?
This is why i love the the Source Audio Collider. Some of the best reverbs from the Ventris and really high quality delays. And you can run dual reverb or dual delay settings aswell. Considering the price of 2 reverb units or 2 delay units with that sorta functionality... it's probably the best bang for buck time-based pedal.
They're great, no doubt!
I recently tried the Strymon Deco and didn't care for it Wish I would have gotten the Flynt
@@paulcowart3174 not really complimentary pedals.
100% agree. It takes care of everything I need and more. High quality, versatile, and cheaper than paying for separate reverb and delay pedals.
I usually run my collider in parallel so I can use a lot of reverb and have super clear repeats on delays. I also use an expression knob box to control reverb mix/repeats/output.
You started the video with Yellow Ledbetter... I'm sold.
Yes!!!
Ventris is on my board and likely never coming off. It's incredible
It's a great pedal!
Same. The only way that it'd come off my board is if they made a version 2.
@@Rob_B_93 Nice!!!
What I love most about Source Audio is how you can instantly recall any preset with their editor. No more taking pictures of an entire pedalboard and trying to recreate the sound days later only for it to still sound different
Yes! Great stuff!!!
Dude, I swear you are the best guitar RUclipsr in my opinion. Always have the easiest to understand knowledge about complicated topics while also being interesting! Keep it up bro!
Wow, thanks!
Wow that’s some beautiful verb. Isn’t it amazing how we still go back to the 80’s for those familiar tones. I don’t think it’s just nostalgia. There’s a reason your hearing a lot of retro in recordings lately. Those tones defined an important music era.
Yes! So many tonal innovations from that era!
Music peaked in the 80’s…
@@emmanuelleroy2915 maybe 90's...but was in the crapper by 2000's.
I love the layout and simple preset access. That was one of the things I loved about the Boss DD-20 Giga-delay; so easy to set up for a simple 3-5 song set list. But the ROUTING and programming options on these blow other reverbs and delays out of the water. Way to go, Source Audio! Congratulations on your great ‘verb awakening, Mason!
Thanks! It's a great verb!
I miss my DD-20
Just ordered a Collider this morning, looking forward to having some of these tones on my Vertex board. The tone at the beginning of this video is amazing! Awesome video as always Mason!
It's great too...half a Ventris, half a Nemesis!
Simon Jarrett at Kingsley pedals uses the Ventris on his demos and wow, the HOLD feature is worth it alone!
Yes! Great pedals, those who play them know!
Source Audio pedals are among the best available! Terrific sounds and ease of operation!
No doubt!
Really nice video and Ben Forehand is a great player. With my limited mobility, having preset functionality and device connectivity are an absolute must. Pedals like these are a great option. Thanks again and please keep 'em coming.
Our pleasure!
Most of the money I have ever spent to a piece of gear (that is not an amp neither a guitar) but worth every penny.
At that time I was looking for a simple to dial in reverb (but with good tones) (ie. Hermida Audio Reverb 3 which is not so easy to find one where I live) for the sake of rather playing than tweaking I have found the Ventris on one of our local second hand gear site. I was hesitating but finally bought it. Never regretted it.
Great story! It's sooooo good!
Nicely done. I love the way you set this up and walked us through it. Sweet playing, too! I love the Source Audio stuff and am saving my money for their compressor, EQ, and now this 😀 Luckily for me, I snagged a Digitech Polara before they stopped making them and have that to enjoy while I wait to upgrade.
Glad you enjoy it!
The Ventris is definitely an awesome reverb! I have no plans of ever taking it off my pedal board.
Good choice!
I purchased this pedal for my board a couple of weeks ago for its awesome sound, and that it’s so much smaller and compact than many others. It really is a great pedal and will not disappoint.
Agreed 💯
Felt good to see that I was correct in my reverb studies with the Ventris on my WDW direct board, and the Hardwire Supernatural /Neunaber WET on my main WDW amp board. 👍
The challenge with the Supernatural for wet/dry/wet is that it can't go 100% wet without a mod so it's not such a good candidate.
My board 80% Source Audio. Happy to have worked NAMM for them in the Hot Hand days.
They're great!
really happy with my nemesis and c4 synth.
source audio makes great stuff
Yes, indeed!
Great video! Clear explanation and beautiful playing.
Glad you liked it!
Perfect. All examples. Can't over state how much more I like demos that use actual songs as opposed to scale/noodling. It's actual music. I get the Beato copyright discussion etc. I respect artist copyrights, but I also think there is legitimate Fair Use, which can also serve an artist - that is the case here IMO. Nice, listenable music and playing, spread the word about an artist, use an everyman-could-do-this type of set-up. Informative, straightforward, well done.
That's what we're going for. Noodle free since 2003!
Perry's song sounded amazing clean and dirty!!! Sounded even better than the original.... Awesome! Thanks for the dedication to the guitar community ❤😁
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great episode!! Been looking for an ideal reverb pedal. Added to my list!!
Thanks for watching!
Source Audio make some of the best pedals. I love my Ventris and Nemesis.
Great pedals!
Lucky to have Ben , he knows what he is demonstrating !
People always ask what’s the pedal you could not live without. Mine is reverb . The style in which I play doesn’t sound great dry. Don’t use too much gain unless I want to play lead and I set my odr1 on the edge of breakup if the amp I’m playing doesn’t already break up a little. So to me the core of my tone is my reverb stacked with the amp reverb. Add chorus if I want a little different clean sound.
I don't have the balls to play without reverb!
I’ve never seen that waza dimension c pedal before,, thanks for sharing. I’ve always wondered why I never found a chorus that i like,, but always liked that 80’s chorus sound.
Happy to help!
>buys digitech reverb because of this channel
>immediately sells it again to buy new reverb
Why did you do this to us?
Sorry 😣
Don't sell your Digitech, just save up for the Ventris...you know as I do these channels have to sell product. I too just ordered the Digitech RV-7 on the strength of the Vertex channel...be not afeared it's not the end of the world...
Another phenomenal video!
Thanks for watching!
Hello Sir,
Im a early subscription love your content..👌🏿😊 I have The Flux Liquid Ambience...A outstanding Multiple ambient reverb..! However, the Ventris Reverb is outstanding...Cheers from Newport Beach, CA. 🌊👋🏿
Thanks for watching JG!
@@VertexEffectsInc My pleasure...Ace narrative from keen hands on perspectives is what us musicians cling too...(VE) is the real deal 👍🏿
Personally, I have tried all the reverb in pedal format! I kept coming back to my BigSky. Stacked with my Boss RV-3, Absolutely amazing!!!
Big Sky is great...this sounds more like the classic studio reverbs to me and has a better Spring than the Big Sky.
The Ventris is absolutely great! I've had all of the big box reverbs and this one is every bit as good and with some algos (like the true spring for example) much better than others. I'm running a CXM 1978 right now as my main end of chain reverb, but I'm sure I will own a Ventris again at some point.
Ventris is king!
I've always taken pride in having many different pedal manufacturer's pedals on my board. I've always felt that I was finding the pedal that sounded right for ME and not being a fanboy and being brand specific. Lots of companies make outstanding pedals. I tried Source Audio Nemesis first a few years ago. Now I'm almost entirely using Source Audio. They really are that good. I have a personal struggle within myself to not have a complete Source Audio board. I really love that company!
They make great stuff!
Ventris was on my list competing with the Specular tempus by gfi system…
They are both incredibly good, but I went with the tempus in the end because I think on modern huge algorithms it’s just a bit stronger👌
I would say the Collider is more similar to the Specular Tempus. For straight Reverb the Ventris is unmatched.
No one can replace lexicons sound, specially not the digitch, and I have a Ventris and many lexicons on studio. If u want small lexicon that not fall from PCM era and more pedalboard friendly check out the LXP1
I never tried that. I.have pcm 70 its beautiful But. Don’t use a lot. But. Hardwire is easy to use. Not bad I like it. But have you compared lxp to a hardwire??
well done as always.
I appreciate that
Great vid, I love this pedal but don't own one. My buddy has it and I've used it for a tiny bit on my 5-cable-method stereo rig and this thing is an amazing value even though it's not cheap. The routing options are great too and since you've got 2 separate reverb engines you can get some really nice sounds out of it. Peace
They are so great!!!
It wasn’t the presets or midi for me that pushed me away from the polara, it was the need to make more adjustments via eq and modulation on the reverbs that is making me save up for the ventris. Collider is cool, but I am going big or going home. More importantly, phenomenal video! Exactly how I would use the pedal
Surf music used the fender reverb tank which most people overlook that there is a tube output buffer stage so the spring reverb has an additional tube output buffer stage that is driving the fender amplifier. Also what is overlooked is the fender reverb tank has a tube preamp stage so you're pretty much modifying your fender amplifier to have an additional 12ax7 preamp driver tube driving the front end of your fender amplifier. The spring reverb is just one part of the puzzle, try to use a tube output buffer pedal placed after the DSP spring reverb. When the surf guitarist would turn OFF the fender reverb tank the signal still went through the preamp driver and output buffer stage which drives the fender amplifier differently which is very overlooked as how to get the surf clean tones because the surf clean tones wasn't plugging your guitars output impedance direct into the amplifiers input jack. The fenders reverb tank would change and alter the guitar output impedance driving the amplifier input impedance differently. Also Phil Spector would use 3 different types of echo chambers that were underground on Gold Star studios and other studios in hollywood which the reverb chambers went into the console buss in parallel. This is also overlooked that the consoles send and return buss circuit was driving the reverb tank chambers so you would need a rack mount studio quality send and return circuit to drive your DSP digital reverb. Most producers would not use the AD/DA converters in guitar pedals or in rack mount digital reverbs which they would use high quality studio AD/DA converters to bypass that ones in the unit since they didn't sound that good. This subjects would be nice to make a video lesson about because they are overlooked with using reverb pedals and reverb rack units
Phil Spector would be too triggering you RUclips ;). Or maybe the kids don't know who he is LOL!
@@VertexEffectsInc True I don't there is any reverb settings that are preset to get Goldstar, sunset sound, oceanway, etc reverbs chambers sounds
I was lining up for the Nemesis / Ventris combo and had the Nemesis, then the Collider came along that covers 90% of my live delay and reverb needs. I still draw out a few settings on an Original Hall of Fame (often as a stack with the Collider), and can draw on an H9 for more unusual 'verbs like Black Hole, etc.. Collider is not nearly as editable as either the Nemesis or Ventris but I like the simplicity of setup. I get where I want to go very quickly. The True Spring is wonderful. I picked up an HX Stomp and need to explore it's latest algo's more, but it is easy to go down the rabbit hole of options with that box I am finding....
Collider is great, I use my daily!
I love my collider and the true spring really is amazing !
@@mattsb17 Ventris is half Collider :)
I like your rig …. Just like my Pub Band rig …. Makes it relevant! 👍
Really great sounding reverbs.... I have the Strymon Flint because it's got the Trem as well and that's very useful, but if I had to have a stand alone high end reverb it would probably be this one. Sounds fantastic!
Great video! What overdrive did you use during the Yellow Ledbetter demo at 18:00? It sounds fantastic and I'd love to know!
I've used a Strymon Big Sky for years, never really thrilled with its tone or menu navigation. Time for a change. Your previous Hardwire RV-7 video really helped lock down parameters that matter to me (studio-grade tones, ease of use, minimal clutter from unwanted features). Was surprised to see a different recommendation so quickly... OCD mandated I watch for "context".
I like Source Audio and their EQ2 pedal is a mainstay on my board. The Ventris sounds really good -> but to my ears not better than the RV-7. This is where the "context" of my question comes in play. I surmise this video was made to offer a worthy alternative for those who consider missing features like presets and MIDI a deal-breaker. My question is, "If the comparison was limited strictly to tonal quality, do you consider the Ventris superior to an RV-7"?
I know my comment is already getting long... but I'm adding a description of my use case, as it might be helpful for others wrestling with similar questions. I rarely play live anymore, so my gear preferences are tied almost entirely to tonal quality for recording/production applications. I often record guitar tracks fairly dry and add reverb/delay during the mixing stage (7th Heaven, Lexicon 224, AA Silver/Lemon, etc.). However, there are times when I need to apply time-based effects during tracking to get the feel right (usually Delay Llama and Multivox MX-201). If I'm going to apply reverb on a track recorded with delay/echo, I've found it works best to include in the initial chain for dialing in the interplay of these 2 effects... instead of adding a plugin during mixing.
Update. Based on my affinity for Source Audio (and your recommendation) I seriously considered the Ventris. In the end I concluded it's a substantially better version of a Big Sky, so not what I targeting. The other contender was the Dr. Scientist Atmosphere, and it finished a very close 2nd (how close 2nd? I ended buying one of these too). In the end, I pulled the trigger on a Hardwire RV-7, and long story short it's exactly what I was seeking. In my opinion it sounds better and is more straight forward than my Strymon Big Sky.
Since I was targeting a front-end reverb strictly for recording, I didn't really need the Big Sky features that were more conducive for playing live (mentioning this because for live applications the Big Sky or Ventris might be a better option for some people). I'd place the Dr. Scientist Atmosphere somewhere between RV-7 and Big Sky. Plenty of features useful for playing live, and tones nearly on par with RV-7. I highly recommend both RV-7 and Atmosphere.
Thank you sir...most folks omit the Leonard Cohen origin of "Hallelujah".
Very welcome
Source Audio products are amazing
No doubt!
I really love your videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge, you’re really great. I’m hesitating between the Collider and the Ventris. Do you know if the Collider can produce the same sounds that you made with the Ventris in that video?
Collider is a Reverb and Delay, this is just reverb. Depends on what you need I suppose.
all my favorite guitar reverb tones in one video. hard to come by
nothing wrong with the amazing hardwire reverb… especially for that price… but if you have the money… you can try the ventris…
Both are great!
Been thinking about getting the Ventris. I have a Nemesis and it’s a great delay. Also the Orbital modulator. All great pedals.
Wonderful pedals for sure!
Love your videos, improved my pedalboard a lot with your help :)
I also have the ventris, love to check out the presets you made ;)
Glad you like them!
I put this pedal in my FX Send and Return through my MOTU MK5. My synths ALWAYS run through this pedal too. Best sound for reverb yet.
It's soo good!
Love the Ventris and Mercury 7.
Cool!
Sounds great
Thanks for watching!
While I was watching the Hardwire RV-7 video just now, I was thinking, "Are you telling me that pedal is better than the Source Audio True Spring?" LOL Nope. But used ones are within similar pricing so pick the one you like and go. SA makes some of my favorite pedals.
Unfortunately not a big reverb guy Usually single or double delay and tremolo What would you say besides the R7 that's just a GOOD simple reverb Thanks love the content
RV-7 is great and simple, so is the Polara - basically both the same pedals.
wow sounds terrific,,as was the playing,,,kudos
Killer player and content
Ben rocks!
I had actually been wondering if you would cover this pedal. I’ve been hearing great things about it, and recently bought one. Still working on getting my pedals setup, but I’m looking forward to being able to use midi with my pedals.
Edit: I was going back and forth between the Ventris and the Specular Tempus. Still kinda want the Specular Tempus, but probably don’t need to get one now.
Definitely check out and download our free presets in the description for the Ventris!
@@VertexEffectsInc Definitely will!
Here's something kinda funny. When you did your premiere/heads up for the RV-7… before the video dropped I snatched one up looking for some great plate.
I have the WET…(which I thought/think is still better than the RV7 after comparison) so I got rid of the RV7…
But… BUT…
In the comments section someone mentioned the Ventris as ‘being the best’… so I grabbed one of those, being in the market for a sound verb, and it IS very good… and cool in all it’s DSP’n ….
BUT…. But…
I re-purchased an M9, yeah I know, and have decided to just stick with the WET and the verbs within the M9…
The OTHER video you did not too long ago giving IT props.
Trying to stay a couple steps ahead of your recs… 😂
Quite honestly though... You know who has the BEST 🍕?!! 😉👍🏻
Thats what some of these rec demo vids can be like.
Seriously though:
Tegeler Audio- Raumzeitmaschine.
No one’s touching this.
Like for real. #☝🏻🙂
Sounds like were both on the same path!
Dug the video! Ben killed it too!
Yes! Ben all day!
You sounds amazing. You are the pedal man concierge
Thanks so much!
Ben is the man 💪🏿
The best!!!
How does the Ventris (and other Source Audio pedals) handle line level effects loops? The RV-7 handles hot levels without flinching.
No problem.
Love the video! Wanna know what u think about the specular tempus next to it also. Thanks!
It's a cool unit too...for stand along Reverb this is my favorite!
The ventris is really awesome, except the product graphics. The legibility is extremely poor because of the low brightness contrast of the white font on the brushed grey anodized aluminum. I don't know how they've could have missed this. I really love its sounds, features, interfacing options and huge amount of tweakability, but this is so annoying that I honestly thought about repainting the case and relabelling it somehow. Just my oppinion of course, but I thought it's worth to point and out, and it's actually noticeable in some shots in your video.
Was that Landau on the Steve Perry track too? Also, Thru degrees of separation Lincoln Brewster (phenomenal player) had a rendition of the Buckley tune and toured with Perry....
Yes, he played on that sound, and also on a few others on that album along with Waddy Wachtel.
Ditch that! Get the one I have!
Exactly!
One of my favorite reverbs from the 80’s is the gated reverb..it was on EVERYTHING back then,and on a lot of the FX units of the day..You don’t see it a lot on modern Reverb units…I am using a Supernatural for the awesome Lexicon plate,and Plate Mod…
Lexicon is great!
Does this pedal get you there or do you still need the Supernatural?
My Hardwire RV-7 is killer for what I use it for. Plate = solos
But yes this has all the bells and whistle’s, been debating this or the collider for quite awhile now.
Awesome Video Thanks 🙏
I've just ordered the Supernatural and the RV-7 and I already have the Polaris, Dispatch Master and the Volante...I'm wired for sound.
Dude I was thinking about you this week while watching some current music news. John frusciante of the chili peppers is having major pedal board problems. I thought you would be the perfect man to bring in. Is there a way we can hook you two guys up?
He needs an appointment with the rig doctor.
That would be cool! I don't know anyone that knows him. A lot of times they have long-time techs that work on the rigs that are very protective and particular so it can be hard to get them to separate with their gear. I guess you can post to him on socials and tell him to pay us a visit :)
@@VertexEffectsInc I figured that, his Roadies and techs might not want to bring in outside help but we all know he needs a specialist. It's like when your family doctor sends you to a orthopedic doctor. LOL.
It would be Cool. Especially after hearing what you did for Wendy and her feedback.
@@MaTTheWish maybe Wendy know him?
Ive been searching my entire life for that decent reverb that is not overbearing, yet has that spark in tone. I've had many of them over the years. I was going to get this pedal since I have its brother, the delay Nemesis. I like the delay, but it's its own thing too as far as delay, so I carry a second delay BOSS DD3 on my board for light delays and use the Nemesis for heavier delay effects that are more, should I say, modern? I also use sometimes both delays at once, which I found out can be AMAZING! So I ended up with the Hall of Fame II pedal. I like it for a light reverb, but for some reason it's still not what I am looking for. Now I am going to have to shell out more money and just get this one. I mean, at worst it will end up in my dust pile of pedals.
i have a tc electronics hall of fame v2 x 4 and i don't even use it tbh.
It has decent hall and room and a shimmer harmonic octave up reverb that's cool, but i just use my twin reverb's spring if i want any verb these daze.
I need to sell the tc tbh
Go all in on Ventris ;)
I remember being really hyped when the Ventris was released, but also a bit let down when I tried it.I think the room and spring algos are superb and plate is ok, but I was disappointed with the hall and this demo hasn’t changed that view. A real lexicon has the ability to make the reverb part of the overall sound. Like the Big sky, the H9 and the hall algo here the guitar sits on top of the reverb. Of the available pedals I’ve only heard Meris Mercury 7 and Chase Bliss 1978 be able to do that Lexicon thing properly. This is why I still sometimes use old rack units for recording as well as convolution reverbs,though I do use Empress and Eventide for live work. I do still wish though that someone would put some of the Valhalla algos into a pedal.
Sounds like we really hear things differently. Having owned many Lexicon units, and still having a few here for Reverb and Delay, I find it's much closer to the classic guitar reverbs of the 80's and 90's than those you mentioned.
You rock Mang!!
Great video, thanks for giving due to Leonard Cohen.
Oh guitarists and their midi 😂 I get it though hahaha I have two multi-channel matrices. All it taught me was that I didn’t want to do that with my guitar gear. I understand the desire in a live context for sure. There’s a reason many of us use it too lol
love my ventris and nemesis.
The best!!!
I just got a UA Golden Reverberator, but wonder if I should have gone with a Ventris instead. Quality is in the same ballpark but Ventris has way more options 🤔
I was deciding between golden and ventris.... I went golden, it's the best spring/plate out there. Yes the ventris has more features...
Both are nice...if you need MIDI the Ventris is a no brainer.
Scott...I'd say the Plate and Hall are better in the Ventris, but I like the Spring best in the Golden.
@@VertexEffectsInc I think the plate is more natural sounding in the golden...
it's cool. i use the polara, which seems pretty similar to the hardwire
Yes, it's almost the same pedal :)
Can I load your Ventris presets on the Collider?
Dont think so, but we show our settings on screen so you can replicate at least one of the two engines.
I won’t be buying any of the pedals that use the neuro app based on the reviews for apple products, seems like support from the manufacturer isn’t there. I hope things change in the future to make the consumer feel that all the features they sell you on are good enough to spend your hard earned money on.
Not sure about your experience, but I always had good customer support from Source Audio, especially when I was trying to get up to speed with their software.
Was not expecting to see forehand on here.
What are your thoughts on the Collider? Same sounds? Or different?
Half Ventris, half Nemesis.
Mason,
I remember you once saying that the DD-500 is the best digital delay ever. Considering this statement, would you recommend someone gets a DD-500 & a 'Ventris', or would you suggest someone get a 'Collider'. $ not being a factor. Pedalboard footprint, compatibility, superfluous options being the factors.
Also, do you know if Source Audio will be adding a screen to the Ventris and/or Collider any time in the near future?
Yes, DD-500 is the best delay multi-effects if you care about tone and actually have owned the representative delays as a baseline ;) . I love the guys that say that "pedal X has the best tape sound" but they've never played a real tape echo. It's like saying that "Paris it the most beautiful city on earth" and you've never been. So as this relates to the Collider, it's a great option and is basically half Ventris, and half Nemesis. However, in most classic rack settings in the 80's and 90's you'd rarely see delay and reverb in the same mix in parallel. Normally you'd have your line out feeding your wet effects, like stereo chorus, then feeding mix #1 with pitch and reverb into mix #2 with stereo delay. If you wanted to do this format with the Ventris, you'd need to put it in a mixer with a Micro Pitch, like the Eventide, both at 100% wet and then feed your DD-500 in stereo after the stereo outputs of your parallel mixer. Something like the Musicom Lab Parallelizer could do this. I don't know about them adding the screen, but your switcher can do all that for you if you you have say an RJM.
Very interesting. I always thought EVH did micropitch, plate reverb & digital delay all in parallel. It sounds like instead the micropitch & reverb are in parallel, then mixed and fed into delay.
I think you can also accomplish this flow with the Eventide H90. It has a insert loops and allows mixing external boxes in series or parallel, and includes phase correction and can do the mixing, like Parralelizer or Duophony. So you’d have micropitch || Ventris plate going -> DD-500.
Have you tried the Boss SDE 3000EVH? Any thoughts vs the DD-500? It’s wet/dry/wet implementation is supposed to be actually mix/dry/mix, but it’s unclear how you’d stack that with the other effects.
I got their collider. It sounds good but I wanted to free up some space and have midi controlled verb and delay. The verb easily replaced my cathedral but the delay fell shy of replacing memory man. And since then now the new boss re 202. So I guess it’s nice having that delay option and both being midi. The delay was just too narrow for me though.
Collider is great too!
Ventris and Nemesis ADT or Collider?
I love glowing reviews of things I already own, one less thing to buy…
Yes!!!
The biggest trouble I find with the RV-7, is no analog dry through; How does one get around that Mason?!! Love the Channel, Cheers Bruddah!
It has analog dry thru.
Sweet
Thanks for watching Johnny!
Check out a reaver pedal called a "vongon" that's the pedal's name and the model of the pedal is ultra sheer it's supposed to emulate the lexicon rack mountain units and the 70s and early 80s and they have down sampled down to 16 bit so they must be a down converter to convert the bits down to 16 bits and it doesn't have any glitching or problems with it to get you that exact sound check it out. Maybe you can make a video lesson about it with other reverbs that you have found that are new that are trying to simulate rack mount '80s reverb units I'm sure there is other pedals being made that are trying to incorporate the rack mount units in the pedal forms now
Looks like it's going after the 70's sound like the Chase Bliss pedal.
These pedals are way too expensive…. Already spent a lot on VST’s do you really need a reverb pedal for a guitar?
Do you know how much they cost to build to make this qualification?
@@VertexEffectsInc I don’t know but trying to
Build a pedal board, get pedals and amps for a “decent” tone is getting ridiculous with the price…..😮💨
@@emmanuelleroy2915 the prices to make the pedals is also getting expensive, the amount of margin on these pedals is not what you think it is. Most companies are making less than $50 profit at best on a $200 pedal and that doesn't consider their other costs for insurance, payroll, taxes, lease, utilities, etc.
@@VertexEffectsInc yes u right I wasn’t thinking that far…… It’s just my future gear list is getting longer by the day….. so I’m thinking damn it’s going to take a while until I build my rig 😂☹️….. but I will be aiming for this pedal since I see it has so many good reviews…. Just venting on my bruised bank account
So I should ditch my Polara?
Recently got a Quad Cortex to replace my amp and board...but I kept the Ventris patched into loops 1/2. Controlled all by a MIDI cable. All on a Temple Audio board with a single PowerCon.
It's too good to omit!!!
Darn it… I was gonna buy this and now prices will jump 15+%
Had the collider and sold it cause I’m stupid. lol I sortve don’t get the point of dual reverbs for most folks, since not many folks are live running (and most can’t hear any difference) running hard pans.
Collider is half Ventris...sooo good!
Does the Colider reverb sound the same as the Ventris?
Is Ventris Reverb BETTER than Strymon Bigsky? Thanks!