I Ripped Off Nashville's Greatest Session Guitarists (and You Should Too)!

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @EWhite-95
    @EWhite-95 5 месяцев назад +93

    Girlfriend: ‘You don’t know where he lives just from his pedalboard’
    Me: ‘a Nobels, boss eq, boss tr2, KOT and line 6 M9 says otherwise’

  • @colsontowingllc3309
    @colsontowingllc3309 5 месяцев назад +122

    mason!!! not trying to be rude...we appreciate you...but i for one miss these kinda videos...love the interviews too...but could you mix more of these in here??? we want more rig doc content!!! thanks for you all you do...no disrespect!!!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +73

      I've been feeling the same. I love doing interviews too and we have a bunch of great ones coming, but I agree, we need to do more here around rigs, pedals, etc. I've got several cooking as I write this! Stay tuned and thanks!

    • @louisg3598
      @louisg3598 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc perhaps 2 channels? 1 for interviews & 1 for rig building?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +16

      @@louisg3598it would spilt the audience and I think would be diminishing returns

    • @gloriaslovechild6496
      @gloriaslovechild6496 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, this 100x

    • @johndrowe5281
      @johndrowe5281 5 месяцев назад

      Did you ever interview Jerry T Corenflos before his untimely passing? Who played lead guitar in my band in the late 80s and was one of the sweetest A-listers minute. The last time we spoke, he reminded me of the story about the nobles, OD… I have been out of town for a few years, and he filled me in on the “secret weapon“. He was a secret weapon and could play Rock/Brit pop rock with the best of them - though he was known for his extraordinary country and jazz playing. would love to hear anything. You can find out about his session years to share with others.
      Keep up the great work. 🎸👨🏼‍⚕️🫶✌️♾️. 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸

  • @gloriaslovechild6496
    @gloriaslovechild6496 5 месяцев назад +22

    I miss the days of these pedalboard-centric videos. These were pretty unique in the RUclips space as far as the DIY stuff was concerned. Would love to see these back periodically whenever possible!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you! We're trying to add more of these in, in addition to our interview content and be sure to keep this rolling in parallel! Thanks for watching!

  • @endlessbegin1350
    @endlessbegin1350 5 месяцев назад +95

    That guitar/board is brighter than my future🥲

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +3

      I’ll admit, it was difficult to find a camera angle in the Novo that wouldn’t reflect the light right back into the lens

  • @marctorrez774
    @marctorrez774 5 месяцев назад +7

    Awesome demo and THANK YOU for playing the same riff while changing overdrives. It’s frustrating when someone demos pedals then changes what they’re playing when they switch to a different pedal. Great guitar playing too!

  • @nickrouse8426
    @nickrouse8426 5 месяцев назад +9

    Something about the Greer Light Speed just sounds so brilliant and beautiful. It's my favorite overdrive I don't own. "I don't have this pedal. Am I gonna survive?" ❤

  • @grahamnunn8998
    @grahamnunn8998 5 месяцев назад +6

    Great video, as always. Learning the value of a boost into a good overdrive was a big moment for me. I tried (and subsequently bought) a Fulldrive 2. It took me 30 seconds to get it!
    On my small board I have a two stage boost into a Klon clone and love that I can set a core drive tone and vary the amount.
    I still do a lot with my guitar's volume too but it all goes back to my rack days. I realised setting a few core tones on my JMP 1 meant I had MY tone and could add effects as needed.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks for watching! Yea...understanding boost positioning relative to your gain stages is critical in tone shaping, both can be valuable!

  • @muncher121
    @muncher121 4 месяца назад +1

    the good news is I just got to listen to extremely delicious guitar tones in stereo. as a bonus I learned that the pedal sequences I've used over the years have been pretty well in line with what you're showing. I don't have as extensive of a rig, but the general principles you're talking about were fun to see and say "oh yeah that's what I do." and stereo guitar tones are so beautiful. I like to pair a totally dry amp that is already dialed in for a hint of dirt, with an amp that has a little reverb and a very clean tone. It's fun to hear how the different amps respond to the pedals and it certainly takes some time to dial it in to where it feels like all the pedal combinations sound great, but once you're there you wonder how you ever enjoyed life before.

  • @ianjeffery4730
    @ianjeffery4730 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is probably your finest upload to date. Love chairman of the boards and the celebs but this actually helps me with my gigging/working setup.

  • @tihinter
    @tihinter 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great rundown. Very flexible setup. I also use AC30 with blue alnicos and Bandmaster in tandem. Great cleanish but characterful combi!

  • @tdz69
    @tdz69 4 месяца назад +3

    That M9 is a sleeper man! I’m playing a fractal these days but still have my pedals and the M9 served as my delays. With expression pedals it was outstanding. Kept it for small acoustic board.

  • @CaptainAhab-im3kd
    @CaptainAhab-im3kd Месяц назад

    Questions for Mason:
    1) Have you ever put the Tremolo after the Delay or even after reverb? That Pedal Show tried that out and found it to work surprisingly good.
    2) I was also wondering if you ever put a clean boost after the delays and Chorus. I've seen a board like this that used an MXR Micro-amp and it seems to work very well also.
    3) Does a Quartermaster screw up the sound of a Fuzz Face?
    4) It seems like on most songs there is basically a gain string sound and a clean sound with gain pedals off. Could a Lehle D.Loop be set up to accomplish this? That sure would simplify everything a lot if that could be made to work. The idea would be to put the gain pedals in Loop A and then put the effects loop type pedals in Loop B. When you want a clean tone then turn the gain string Loop A off. When you wnat a delay string you turn on and off Loop B. Have you ever set up a rig like that?

  • @easyriderm13
    @easyriderm13 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great video! I get a little burnt seeing vids with guys demonstrating equipment. They overplay, sounding like they're auditioning. You play what's needed to present the gear. Great job! By the way, I recently picked up the SRV Slight Return pedal, and it is one hell of a nice sounding pedal! Thanks!!😊

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! I’m so glad you dig the pedal!

  • @Vin123man
    @Vin123man Месяц назад +1

    Eq after the drives? For solo boost? How about sculpting tone after the drives?

    • @davidsisto7694
      @davidsisto7694 9 дней назад

      I was thinking the same thing. Dave Gilmour comes to mind as he placed an EQ after each overdrive on his board.

  • @jfethier5604
    @jfethier5604 8 дней назад

    Please no delay for overdrives shoutout! The 6 band eq for single coils, the 10 band for humbuckers. If a player does not need the latch option I believe that Malekko Vibrato and Tremolo are better options: mini pedals and the Vibrato can be powered @ 18 volts. DOD Rubberneck instead of Memory Man? A FET drive somewhere... If I need a single MXR pedal the Dynacomp is not my pick but ok for a Nashville commercial board (could the RC boost do the job by itself?)

  • @WowIndescribable
    @WowIndescribable 5 месяцев назад +3

    That great comparison of the different overdrives alone was worth watching this video for.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      Heck yea!

    • @JohnShalamskas
      @JohnShalamskas 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes! The different gain structure of each OD circuit was easy to distinguish. I have an HX Stomp XL which I precede with a Germanium SunFace fuzz, King of Tone, Keeley Oxblood, and L.A. Lady for the same reason. Sometimes its fun to stack a couple of them. Also placed a flanger in front of the Stomp because it's nice to have the physical knobs, and running it in series with emulated flangers makes for a deeper swirly tone. I can see that a compressor would be nice after the fuzz. I have an unused MXR 10 band EQ that I should add too!

  • @rickspyder6159
    @rickspyder6159 5 месяцев назад +1

    67 years old played guitar for 65 ... always something to learn...gr8 vid again

  • @2tallB
    @2tallB 5 месяцев назад +1

    This was super interesting! I currently have an EP boost at the end of all pedals, which I only occasionally use. Now I think I’ll switch that out for the RC at the beginning as you did. 👈🏼🙏🏼

  • @Gary-zq3pz
    @Gary-zq3pz 5 месяцев назад +1

    Here's one you can try. I've got a nice selection of Walrus pedals and put some together as a unit. Lillian(phaser) Polychrome (flanger) Julia(chorus) Monuments (vibrato) and Slo(reverb/delay). It makes some sweet, sweet sounds.

  • @BuddyBlues
    @BuddyBlues 5 месяцев назад +29

    Has your Proco Rat been in war?! Hot DAYUMN that thing is used 😂
    Killer tones dude!!

  • @sportsportsport
    @sportsportsport 4 дня назад +1

    Mason, do these loopers suck tone (high end) ??? Thanks

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  4 дня назад

      @@sportsportsport this one doesn’t. Many do however. For all those that are out right now, the gig rig is the best option.

  • @Vin123man
    @Vin123man 9 дней назад

    Also curious about the volume pedal usage in live playing - mostly for effects or adjusting volume?

  • @cshades8026
    @cshades8026 5 месяцев назад +1

    Would love to see some more videos on how you incorporate the Quad Cortex 😎

  • @Telewest792
    @Telewest792 5 месяцев назад +1

    I use the G3 from Gigrig and it is the most amazing piece of kit I’ve ever used , my board consists of a schmit array board ,the pedals i use are cali 76 compressor ,a bb-exotics Andy Timmons drive ,a ODR-1 .a chase blis automatone , a timeline and möbius , a UA astra , UA Golden and a UA Starlight occasionally I’ll swap the bb and the ODR-1 for a protein by Browneand i have just added the Halo which is now always on and of course the Ge-7 to taste It’s a lot of fun [ expensive ] but a lot of fun ,love the videos that you put out very informative and your guitar collection is pretty spec as well. Keep up the great work .

  • @erikavery1105
    @erikavery1105 2 месяца назад

    I made my pedalboards to be specific to what I need for recording/live sessions. I have my Bass Board, my All-Purpose Boss small Board, my 60s/70s Board(I'm looking for a U-Vibe and an Octave Fuzz), and my Big (almost)All-JHS Board. The JHS Board outgrew the BCB-60 Box, so I pulled out my old Furman Board Box to fit them all in(!).... and get a Loop Switcher. I'll definitely need to get a buffer. I'm checking out the Quartermasters; one for the drives, another for the delays/modulations. This board will run wet/dry; I have a Radial ABY Box with phase/iso swicthes.

  • @caseynewton827
    @caseynewton827 5 месяцев назад +16

    Why do the whammy bar while you’re showing off the vibrato pedal? Kinda makes it hard to hear what’s going on with the pedal

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +18

      Just letting Jesus take the wheel 😉

    • @music_works
      @music_works 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@VertexEffectsIncVibradeux

    • @-Pol-
      @-Pol- 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah 🤷‍♂ not helpful at all!

    • @tihinter
      @tihinter 5 месяцев назад +2

      Who can't identify the sound of a vintage Boss vibrato, certainly ain't in the market for it. Seriously, using a whammy bar is so typical for that kind of swell chord playing. Would sound just wrong not to do it!

    • @spmuzak101
      @spmuzak101 5 месяцев назад +2

      Use that whammy

  • @fixpedalboards1969
    @fixpedalboards1969 Месяц назад +1

    Those vibrato swells are freaking awesome I would put that tone against anything I’ve ever heard on a record

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ten years later, I’m still stuck on the king of tone. I just haven’t found anything that does exactly what that pedal does for me. I need to have one on each board to feel 100% comfortable. People always suggest this and that and I’ve tried several “KOT Killers” but none of them really stuck. It sounds great in every environment, every time, no questions asked…clubs, theaters, small stadiums, tents, doesn’t matter. The only other compression/drive pedals that have stuck around that long for me are the cali76, the ts mini and the EQD Palisades.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад

      I’m still struggling a bit with it, sometimes I like it in a mix but hate it in a room. I’m not sure I’ve cracked the code yet but I’m trusting the process.

    • @manifestgtr
      @manifestgtr 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc
      That’s what I dig about it actually. I basically never play it in isolation. What it does with the band is 🤌

  • @danielrenton642
    @danielrenton642 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is great. I already learned so much from your prior 80s W/D/W rig advice. I've tried that with only pedals and again with only plugins. I still use that advice all the time. Also: fantastic interview with Simon Jarrett recently with the chairmen! thx for that too!

  • @davidg9165
    @davidg9165 2 месяца назад +1

    Vertex and JHS are by far, the best, most honest lovers of music in general. Here’s Vertex, who makes pedals, yet he’s showing boards without his pedals (ok he has the Vertex Boost). Atleast, I don’t think he has any of his on there. These guys are legit, they are truthful and not salesman. They both make some fantastic pedals FYI. I own the KOT and it’s amazing, I also have the RC booster.

  • @tevoight
    @tevoight 28 дней назад

    so you go direct into the amp? not using the effects loop on the amp at all?

  • @johnsaltsman7230
    @johnsaltsman7230 Месяц назад

    What are your (and Tom Bukovac’s) typical red side / yellow side settings for KOT?

  • @DBroce
    @DBroce Месяц назад

    I’m old and have a MM, but the delay you got out of the M9 was great.

  • @adminag1
    @adminag1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Are you using a headstock tuner? I don't see a tuner on the board.

  • @lxxwj
    @lxxwj 5 месяцев назад +3

    with the 10 band EQ and compressor loop, is the compressor going into the EQ or vice versa?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +3

      I currently have it going compressor then EQ, however, a case could be made to invert that. I may try it!

  • @gsmeeuwsen
    @gsmeeuwsen 5 месяцев назад +2

    Love your videos, Mason. Thank you! And you're a pretty darn good player too!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      Wow, thanks...I felt like a real hack here! LOL!

  • @johndrowe5281
    @johndrowe5281 5 месяцев назад +1

    Did you ever interview J T Corenflos before his untimely passing? He played lead guitar in my band in the late 80s and was one of the sweetest A-listers I ever met. The last time we spoke, he reminded me of the story about the Nobel’s OD… I had been out of town for a few years, and he filled me in on the “secret weapon“. He was a secret weapon and could play Rock/Brit pop rock with the best of them - though he was known for his extraordinary country and jazz playing. Would love to hear anything you can find out about his session years to share with others.
    Keep up the great work. 🎸👨🏼‍⚕️🫶✌️♾️. 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸

    • @johndrowe5281
      @johndrowe5281 5 месяцев назад +1

      BTW, very nicely done and explained demo/vid. And you are no “amateur” … You at least know the rig and volumes about the pedals aboard.😊
      Cheers/ Slainte. 🎸👨🏼‍⚕️🫶✌️♾️. 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇸

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      JT Corenflos is a legend and I wish I could have interviewed him. I bummed to have missed him.

    • @johndrowe5281
      @johndrowe5281 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc I am bummed because I miss him… I know what you mean. There was only one JT. You should hear the 3-song instrumental tape he brought to town … we turned one of them into a song when I was a staff writer and recorded it on an Akai 12-track at the publisher’s. Note for note recollection And tripled the solo at the drop of a hat when I said “add a harmony”.😳🤔. “Add another harmony?” And these were 120 bpm 8th notes! Sweetheart and so gifted.
      🎸👨🏼‍⚕️🫶✌️♾️.

  • @bobbykotick2642
    @bobbykotick2642 5 месяцев назад +2

    Regarding the VB-2 and Michael Thompson, did he run the pedal after the line out of his amps or did he use it in front of the amps, for those huge recordings in his classic days during the '90s?

  • @MaychelleDemetita
    @MaychelleDemetita 5 месяцев назад

    hello. where i do put my m9 in the chain with preamp modeler pedal? which comes first in the chain? i only use modulations, reverbs and delays in m9

  • @tensu4831
    @tensu4831 5 месяцев назад

    So glad to see two of my favorite rig builders merged in this project.

  • @Rick_Erickson
    @Rick_Erickson Месяц назад

    Great video. I do have one question though, and a quick scan of the remarks did not seem to address it. To me it is the elephant in the room... @ 10:46 you kick in the Rat and suddenly the volume drops and the tone sounds thin. It seems to me a Rat should sound better than that, although to be honest, I've never been a big fan of that pedal. Was there an issue with the pedal, or is it just the way the recorder picked it up?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  Месяц назад

      @@Rick_Erickson it has almost no midrange so the perceived drop of volume isn’t what the meter shows

  • @Drtydeeds
    @Drtydeeds 5 месяцев назад +2

    With regard to running 2 power supplies - is it ok/safe to a single power chord that splits to send power to each supply (in this case 2xTrueTone CS6's). The cord is manufactured as a y-cable, I didn't DIY it. I haven't wired the board up yet and I am just worried that there will be issues since both PSU's would be powered by essentially the same single power source. I run a multitude of pedals with a "clock" in them as Mason puts it - multiple delays and reverbs.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +3

      It's the same as what the power strip is doing but just internally.

    • @Drtydeeds
      @Drtydeeds 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc awesome. I wasn’t 100% sure so I figured what the heck since you brought up dual PSU’s. Tyvm.
      Btw I’m building this rig on your Tour Elite MkII :)
      Appreciate y’all

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Drtydeeds amazing! Good luck with the build!

    • @JohnShalamskas
      @JohnShalamskas 4 месяца назад

      The low voltage DC supply is where some (usually digital) pedals tend to send transients which can be amplified by high gain OD pedals on the same supply. The AC side should not have any such problems.

  • @ryanprintup
    @ryanprintup 5 месяцев назад +3

    What label maker are you using? I have a Brother P-Touch and it always prints so much extra that I have to trim down manually

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +5

      I'm using the same, however on the newer ones you can use their software via USB and custom print the lengths, etc. so you don't eat up unnecessary tape.

    • @ryanprintup
      @ryanprintup 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc I didn't know that about the newer models. Sounds like it's time for an upgrade. Thank you!

  • @timwhite5562
    @timwhite5562 5 месяцев назад +2

    I've been using an EQ at the front and the end of my chain for 15 years. If you have five or six ODs, distortion and boost pedals but no EQ, odds are you have redundant pedals and don't even know it. You can do more with a transparent Timmy/klons, a tube screamer and a big muff or Rat if you have an EQ and compressor than you could ever hope to do with a dozen overdrives without them.

  • @troyd7613
    @troyd7613 3 месяца назад

    The Line 6 M9 may actually be a cool addition to your pedalboard.... If you can find one that works!!!
    I mean, I really wouldn't know.
    I've now bought three..... Yes three!!!... and have yet to find one that doesn't either have the "black brick of death" on the display screen or no display at all... Each rendering the device unusable.
    Without a display it's literally impossible to reset etc.
    Unless you can find one locally that can be verified as working (for how long???) you're stuck with buying used online and rolling the dice.
    Apparently extremely large guitar stores... (GC)… don't bother to verify the unit before shipping it out to the customer, so that's always fun to have to pay non-refundable shipping charges, plus time and gas to shlep it to their nearest brick and mortar to get at least some of your cash back.
    Worth noting.... Line 6 is aware of these issues, as they occur with several of their other modelers as well, however paying $225 to $300 for a used anything that has to immediately be sent off for repairs isn't my idea of a "quality" product or company. How these modelers actually stand up to repeated gig use is beyond me.... I guess perhaps they don't???
    Anyway... No more Line 6 for me.

  • @nmbd24
    @nmbd24 4 месяца назад

    Hmm.., When I try to arrange this board on Pedal Playground, the QX10 and Volume pedal are already too wide for the vertex tour elite, is there any reason why this may not be aligning?

  • @sunnibird
    @sunnibird Месяц назад

    Any alternatives to the M9 as it's discontinued??

  • @Mike_Spor
    @Mike_Spor 3 месяца назад

    Every few months I come back here and am impressed with your playing , keep it up. FYI, in my opinion gigrig 3 is awesome.

  • @demanfredo
    @demanfredo 5 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome Mason, thank You for always sharing excellent content 🤘🏻

  • @bigpapi2658
    @bigpapi2658 2 месяца назад

    Would have nice to list what session player uses which pedals.

  • @patchpit
    @patchpit 5 месяцев назад +7

    Mason, thanks for this video I just build a studio board and your content help me get an amazing sound and yes using two eq pedals gave me the best clean sound ever, anyway loved your channel! Fan For Life.

  • @tylerostermayer6726
    @tylerostermayer6726 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don't understand the volume pedal/vibrato trick. Why wouldn't the same vibrato effect be applied if you were just using the VP and VB was engaged?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      If you were doing it as just a static thing, then (of course) you could do that, but you get a little bit of the clean signal before you get the vibrato signal when you do it in this fashion because there is a short time delay between when the actual effect is engaged in when the effect gets bypassed.

  • @raytorvalds3699
    @raytorvalds3699 5 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video. Super informative. Thank you!
    Your playing is good, man. You are NOT a hack.
    Why is nobody using the Source Audio EQ2? Is it a workflow thing, because it's more fiddly than just sliders?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      It’s digital for one. I think people like the physical sliders as well.

    • @raytorvalds3699
      @raytorvalds3699 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc Thank you for answering my question. Cheers.

  • @inept_tones
    @inept_tones 3 месяца назад

    Enjoyed video Mason. Question on what pedal, tone degradation wise, would be ok to leave out of loop switcher? Is it more function choice to put certain pedals in loop or is tone the reason?

  • @Zach-Rosicka
    @Zach-Rosicka 5 месяцев назад

    Yoooo, this is by far the absolute best tones and tone I have ever heard from you! Sounds FREAKING PHENOMENAL BROOOO👏💪🌅

  • @ilovelamp22
    @ilovelamp22 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would love if for videos like this, you could add a special set of subtitles that translate the sound talk for people not familiar. "Dial out a bit of the mid range, and bring a bit of the sparkle on the top" for example

    • @lxxwj
      @lxxwj 5 месяцев назад +1

      midrange = frequencies in the middle of the sound spectrum (i.e. between bass and treble)
      sparkle = ultra high treble range that gives a sound more "clarity"

  • @GlennJimenez
    @GlennJimenez 2 месяца назад

    Mason if you ever see this… would you consider raising the action on your guitar?
    All I keep thinking is how much better these effects would have sounded with a little more sustaijn

  • @INVERTEDBUKAKI
    @INVERTEDBUKAKI 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool although after a few years or more of gas syndrome disease. I have gone back to basics for what just works. Wah, tuner, cs2 boss compressor, Nobel and Friedman beod.
    boss pitch shifter, dd3 delay and hall of fame reverb in the loop

  • @goblina_subpeona
    @goblina_subpeona 5 месяцев назад +2

    Good playing. So humble! Does the pedalboard have an analog dry thru for the m9?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +3

      No, no analog dry path after the M9, but most people that give the words "analog dry" don't really understand it, or hear it. Unless you have a version of your signal that's not running through the effect (in this case M9), you'll have no reference for the analog dry to compare against to hear phasing or any artifact of the latency. For this reason, pretty much every studio great in Nashville uses the M9 and doesn't care that it's not an analog dry thru. If they had wet/dry/wet rigs, you could make a case for the mixer, but since it's in series with everything, and likely going to a digital interface and DAW, there's no threat from using the DSP here.

    • @goblina_subpeona
      @goblina_subpeona 5 месяцев назад +1

      Personally I thought when you stomped off the M9 it sounded better. I have no problem with digital effects from any era as long as there’s an analog dry thru.

  • @edsonnogueirateodoro9460
    @edsonnogueirateodoro9460 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same overdrives pedals. I did this stacking and I got the best tom that I ve made. Thank you

  • @frankiek733
    @frankiek733 5 месяцев назад +10

    I always run 5 drives minimum. Fuzz, Rat, Klon, Tube Screamer, Blues Breaker. That way I always have every option.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not mad at that!

    • @handle433
      @handle433 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wow, I feel like I’m missing out. I just use my Clapton boost circuit. Should I swap for two/three different drive flavours?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@handle433 on board you guitar? Keep it, you can add pedals after it.

    • @handle433
      @handle433 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc yeah, on the bottom tone knob. I’m into the 80’s sounds, going for the ‘one guitar does all’ cliché!😁 maybe it’s time to look at a Klon on my board? I’m mostly different choruses and reverbs now

  • @troyd7613
    @troyd7613 3 месяца назад

    Hi Mason,
    Say I couldn't possibly trouble you for the particular model number of the P-Touch label maker you use?
    There are a ton of P-Touch models.. some well regarded, others not.
    Thanks!!!

  • @davidhagedorn483
    @davidhagedorn483 5 месяцев назад

    Great board and great tones. I agree on mostly everything in your expertise except I'm still on the "low gain to high gain" side with the exception of fuzz which comes first. I tried it many times, but low to high gain sounds better to my ears when stacked while I'm still able to play the drives individually without having to tweak around in between. I wasn't able to do that when playing high to low gain, always had to readjust. When it sounded good individually, I didn't like the stacked sound and visa versa...

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      For the most part, what I see, and I've heard from the studio guys, is the main gain pedal used is the main gain pedal, and their either using the RC to boost saturation, or the Vertex Boost (or clean boost) to boost level/output. They typically aren't stacking the OD/Distortion pedals together, but using predictable pre-gain boosts or post-gain boosts to add on.

  • @futternut55
    @futternut55 5 месяцев назад

    Love this. Could you show your settings on the Line6 M9 Analog with Mod delay?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      I don' think it was anything special, just mix at about 30% and just cracked the modulation enough to just hear it, repeats to taste.

  • @michaelbanach9972
    @michaelbanach9972 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks again for sharing. Invaluable info. Curious why still go with the M9 instead of HX EFFECTS considering the HX EFFECTS has access to the Legacy Effects (the effects on the M9). I never really understood why, except for the face if you already had an M9. Appreciate your insight.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +3

      You might not have got there in the video yet, it comes a little bit later on when we get to that part of the signal path, but it becomes about workflow, and honestly because of how antiquated the digital technology is, I feel like it sounds a little bit more lo-fi and analog to my ear compared to the HX

    • @michaelbanach9972
      @michaelbanach9972 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc I saw but was always curious as ive never seen a head to head. Gear can be funny as when great players use a type of gear and or we become accustomed sometimes our disposition is biased. Not saying you're not right ive just never seen a head to head. But alas thanks for getting back

    • @2tallB
      @2tallB 5 месяцев назад

      Most of the guys in NYC that were using the M9 had it modded to make it quieter (I think that’s what it was, but def modded) many have moved on but it was super useful.

  • @ocollado2
    @ocollado2 Месяц назад

    Thanks for putting the board together and showing it. Couldn't watch the whole video as the delay was overwhelming .

  • @gavmegs
    @gavmegs 5 месяцев назад

    Hey Mason how have you got the M9 analog delay with mod set pls ?

  • @zentime8047
    @zentime8047 Месяц назад

    I’m getting more and more to the point where I just want a tuner, a good boost (I use ep boost by xotic) maybe a light drive and a great amp

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 5 месяцев назад

    Great tones brother. Love the new pedalboard. You've gotta get your hands on a Barber Gain Changer SR ( it's tone-heaven with a Strat > Clean amp ) = Trust me !!!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад

      I had one years ago in the 2010s. They’re great!

  • @javymontoya
    @javymontoya 5 месяцев назад

    LOVE this rig!!! Why the Quartermaster over series? A pedal there you wanted to be isolated?

    • @JohnShalamskas
      @JohnShalamskas 4 месяца назад +2

      Running each pedal in its own loop on the Quartermaster allows you to get rid of all the cabling, buffering, and switching of unused pedals. That allows your rig to get the best signal-to-noise ratio possible at all times.

  • @darrenworth1236
    @darrenworth1236 3 месяца назад

    Line 6 M9/13 will remain "in style" as long as the big hitters are still using them. Thankfully my M13 is still working perfectly. I have it on a hard bypass switch, using for what ever i cant cover with the other pedals. Love it.

  • @Twirlyhead
    @Twirlyhead 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love my RC boost I must say. Seems to enrich and slightly thicken the sound too.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      Great pedals, I also like that you can thin out tones if you take away the bass - it's a great tool for finding your place in a mix like a front end EQ in its own right.

  • @producerman10030
    @producerman10030 5 месяцев назад +1

    where does the pog go in that order? I just got one.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      Most guys seem to put them after overdrive in Nashville. I have an insert Send/Return on the Vertex Buffer Interface that I considered wiring a POG into should I want to use one that would go after the QMX output but before the Vertex Boost, Memory Man, and M9.

  • @JackFaulkner-q3b
    @JackFaulkner-q3b 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yet another great video, thanks! Just curious,, here’s a low tech question… What are you using to make the labels, for instance, the ones that tell you which loop switch is affecting which pedal. Are you using a Brother P Touch? Curious because the labels look great and it looks like you can do them in different sizes.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      Brother P-Touch with a USB attachment to my computer so I can customize the size/length, etc.

    • @JackFaulkner-q3b
      @JackFaulkner-q3b 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc thanks for that! I already own a vertex buffer, of my takeaways from this video is I need to use the stereo out rather than running my STRYMON stuff in mono.. I’ve learned so much from you, thanks!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JackFaulkner-q3b wow, great news!

  • @modalities
    @modalities 5 месяцев назад

    Going to try this idea with the Fender Tone Master Pro. Has anyone tried this?

  • @RJW14
    @RJW14 5 месяцев назад +1

    NGL I have had a boost after my gain pedals for forever.... it doesn't just add more volume cause even with just a tiny bit of boost added, the top end opens up.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      That would have more to do with how it's hitting the front end of your amp. If the source that it's hitting has a lot of headroom, you'll just get volume increase, no EQ change. You can also put it after your FX Send if you have an FX Loop in your amplifiers to prevent the boost from overdriving your preamp section.

    • @RJW14
      @RJW14 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc it's just a small volume koch studiotone :) BTW the neck of that Novo is gorgeous.

    • @JohnShalamskas
      @JohnShalamskas 4 месяца назад

      I've seen the same thing by running a clean boost after fuzz. Seems to reintroduce some headroom.

  • @MNGuitars
    @MNGuitars 5 месяцев назад

    beautiful board! im currently using full helix and wah with a mesa boogie mark channel swtiching amp....i think often about building another board like i used to have with analog pedals and maybe the HX effects, clean amp board but would love to have ability to use the channel switching amp too...great video!

  • @triplumberelectro8611
    @triplumberelectro8611 5 месяцев назад

    Would this rig work with the funky vib and a wah pedal and fuzz pedals?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад

      I’m struggling to understand the question.

    • @triplumberelectro8611
      @triplumberelectro8611 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc were in the signal chain would I put them?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад

      @@triplumberelectro8611 Ideally before the input buffer. If I used them here, I'd plug into the buffer after the Wah, Vibe, and Fuzz (in that order after the guitar).

  • @bravo4adventure988
    @bravo4adventure988 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice sounding and looking rig

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks so much for watching!

    • @bravo4adventure988
      @bravo4adventure988 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc it’s my pleasure…I’ve learned so much from you

  • @sebastianb.2385
    @sebastianb.2385 5 месяцев назад

    Nice Board! How would you describe the difference between the nobles and the lightspeed?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      The ODR-1 is fatter and more mids for sure. The Lightspeed to me seems a bit more of an effect, and more transparent, sorta like a Timmy but I think a little better for my tastes.

    • @sebastianb.2385
      @sebastianb.2385 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc Thank you!

    • @2tallB
      @2tallB 5 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed with the above, very different sounds. The Lightspeed for me is something I leave on most of the time. Roll back guitar volume for clean and full for very slight breakup. It definitely adds vibe. The Timmy, rather than competing with LS, is it’s partner. Very similar but you can kick it in for more gain with a similar sound. I think of these as more for playing parts and other gain pedals for solos and smooth lines.

    • @sebastianb.2385
      @sebastianb.2385 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@2tallB thank you, that’s good to know!

  • @spmuzak101
    @spmuzak101 5 месяцев назад

    Nice video…love the explanations…
    Where do play mostly

  • @irappaport7373
    @irappaport7373 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. What do you use as your tuner?

  • @Fl_Music_Producer
    @Fl_Music_Producer 3 месяца назад

    His pedal board cost more than my whole rig!😂😂😂😂 You would need to be a season guitarist or a doctor to afford to be able to build this. I bet that pedal board is heavy too. Great video!

  • @GlennJimenez
    @GlennJimenez 2 месяца назад

    10:52 Sweet the Rat sounds as bad here as it did in my rig. That little fizz box made me question my amp

  • @grantdickey
    @grantdickey 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is pure Nashville GOLD! #615boys #Nashvillelovesyou

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      Hahahaha...I'm not worthy! Lol!

    • @grantdickey
      @grantdickey 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc Hell yes you are brother! Just the boost/volume trick makes you a legend around here!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@grantdickey Hahaha, only because Buk uses it!

  • @nickm8354
    @nickm8354 5 месяцев назад

    Nicely done Mason! I’m sure Uncle Larry himself would be proud to play a rig like that

  • @greenman9123
    @greenman9123 15 дней назад

    Do you have a video explaining the rat. Which rat is the one you want to get?

  • @michaelgreen4308
    @michaelgreen4308 5 месяцев назад

    Another great video, thanks Mason! Well timed, as I've been planning my 'Uncle Larry Inspired' pedalboard. Please let me know if you ever plan to sell the Novo Serus J - she's an absoluite beauty.

  • @nevenlisica
    @nevenlisica 5 месяцев назад

    Great vid… can you tell us where are all the buffers placed?

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад

      It should say throughout the video, you might need to go a little deeper in. I also put the signal path in the description.

    • @nevenlisica
      @nevenlisica 5 месяцев назад

      @@VertexEffectsInc i watched it twice through… is there buffer anywhere else besides Vertex in/out box?

  • @DreidMusicalX
    @DreidMusicalX 5 месяцев назад

    I've always had at least 13 to 16 pedals on my boards. From delays, reverbs chorus and so on. But nothing over the top. I do play with a double delay pedals and together they sound incredible! I use the Nemesis and the BOSS DD3 together and man , its something else when you do it just right with slight echo from each one. I have also been using a pre amp pedal in my effects loop which really changes the sound of your amp and cabinet to an all new level of smooth beautiful sound. Thats with an EQ pedal and now my TONEX pedal. Hot damn!

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      Very cool! Thanks for watching!

    • @JohnShalamskas
      @JohnShalamskas 4 месяца назад

      Pink Floyd "Run Like Hell" uses 2 delays cascaded.

  • @TheRunningMerse
    @TheRunningMerse 5 месяцев назад

    I want to learn how to build rigs from you. Love you content too.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      There is plenty of content here to DIY it!

  • @theaaronimal
    @theaaronimal 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is awesome! Love the insights

  • @masterofreality230
    @masterofreality230 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good things to look at for inspiration. I was curios, looked up the M9 on Reverb....there is exactly 1 lol. Might go with the HX Stomp instead.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +2

      They're great, I prefer the workflow on these. I got this one on Craigslist for $150. I find them on Sweetwater Gear Exchange, Ebay, and Facebook Marketplace for around $200 or less all the time.

    • @masterofreality230
      @masterofreality230 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc Yea, I figured I might find a few if I looked around. They still sound good and they are considerably cheaper.

  • @zepeps
    @zepeps 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for those videos... learn a lot with power suply and such more issues on pedalboards.... I really have a noiseless pedalbord nowadays because of your videos..... thank you

  • @CraigFlowersMusic
    @CraigFlowersMusic 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've been trying to get my hands on a quartermaster 10 just like that one. They're impossible to find in the states, and nobody else has jumped on that hole in the market *clears throat.

    • @vocalion9519
      @vocalion9519 5 месяцев назад

      I've found Reverb to be best way to get at some of the foreign-only gear. Looks like there are a couple out there right now.

    • @CraigFlowersMusic
      @CraigFlowersMusic 5 месяцев назад

      @@vocalion9519 While it isn’t usually the case, yes there are two right now. However one is local pickup only, half a continent away; the other comes as part of a package I don’t want or need. So while it does currently APPEAR as if they can be found, it actually isn’t that simple.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      It seems they want folks to purchase direct.

  • @tompoynton
    @tompoynton 5 месяцев назад

    Hey Mason, great video! Have you had a chance to play the 29 Pedals EUNA? And do you have any opinion on if so

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, I think of them more like an EQ pedal than a buffer, I also think they're impractical to use a buffers in your system since you'd need to buy separate versions for input and output (and that's only if you run a mono rig in front of an amp), and I think they color the sound (by design) too much to be a buffer for me. I know people enjoy the color of them, and that's fine, but that's sorta the antithesis of what a buffer is supposed to do.

  • @JamTagg
    @JamTagg 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent tutorial and investigation, sooooo useful! Thanks!

  • @Christopher-iu6kq
    @Christopher-iu6kq 5 месяцев назад

    I like this cat. The memory man is the only one I would keep. Imho most distortion pedals sound like bees in a bottle. The less pedal dancing I have to do the better.
    Thanks. Nice video.

  • @johnnylayton1672
    @johnnylayton1672 5 месяцев назад

    Makes tons of sense the Nashville studio guys would have similar effects on their boards so that say a Brent Mason vibe is on speed dial.
    What surprises me is that the trend towards a Brian May style tone isn't more popular in Nashville due to May having had to find an EQ range that could complement not compete with a busy piano. Maybe I'm only showing ignorance here as you do have an EQ pedal on your board for one, but for both overdriven solo & chord tones May & his gear muse in Rory Gallagher seemed to have a great option there.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      Nashville seems to be getting more divorced from Brent Mason's sensibilities as we get further into the 2010's and most of the session guitarists, although they can play anything, seem more like 80s Rock 'n Roll guitarists in terms of what's being asked for. Don't get me wrong, there is still plenty of legacy acts that want Brent or someone to do his sound, but I think the baseline has morphed to heavier effects and processing overall.

    • @johnnylayton1672
      @johnnylayton1672 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VertexEffectsInc Great point & Dann Huff -- another guitarist who can seemingly play anything -- might be a great example for what you mean there. And both he & Tom Bukovac have confessed to using Matchless amps for some of their Nashville session work, so maybe they HAVE leveraged May's EQ strategy to some degree & I'm just failing to recognize it.
      Anyway, thanks! It's always great to get your learned perspective on pro level gear choices & setups not to mention your interviews with the studio guitar legends.

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@johnnylayton1672 Thanks for watching!

  • @rossbrown3656
    @rossbrown3656 5 месяцев назад

    Were you playing Jewel with the gretsch and the tremolo? Haven’t heard that song in ages

    • @VertexEffectsInc
      @VertexEffectsInc  5 месяцев назад

      Sorta…yea. I didn’t realize it, but yeah, it’s got that vibe for sure.