I'm very sorry, but sound tests comparing switches that are located in different areas of the keyboard are not reliable. Even the same switch can sound different depending on which area of the keyboard it is in. This doesn't make sense.
thats why I kept them in the same row. Atleast in my experience rows usually sound the same. Take for example the board im typing on now, all my switches in the same row sound the same. it isnt perfect, nothing will be, but it gives a good idea of what to expect.
@@BokehhBob thanks for taking the tiem to do the test, but it does not give a good idea of what to expect, sorry. The pitch always ascends when you move from left to right. Is Canglan that much higher in pitch than Eva and Milky white? You sorted the switches in pairs of 3 to always ascend in pitch?
It’s a moot point. YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT first off. Let’s just get that out of the way first. The reason it’s moot is as I am sure you know: you can’t ever really know how it’s gonna sound till you fully build it in your case, with your caps on your desk. So think of these videos like the lady at the grocery store handing out cheese samples. Bob you should put the switches on a tooth pick for a thumb nail lol
Appreciate the effort but with the switches in different locations, this test doesn't amount to much. Like you said, it would take a long time to do if you did this with them all in the same place and just cut back and forth, but that would be much more useful comparison
I just started using some of these and they are incredible. 0 stem wobble and very good factory lube. My only complaint is they all sounds rather similar and clacky. I'm hoping for different variations of sound profile and even tactiles in the future.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I know that some people might not be happy with the ¨sound test,¨ but it gives us a better idea what each switch sounds like. Quick question, does HMX make any tactile switches? I really like their clacky sound profile, but I prefer tactiles over linears.
no tactile switches yet, but theyre in the works. Thanks for the comment and appreciate the support. Some people just don't realize everything is absolute unfortunately. Any sound test is for a general idea as there are so many variables when it comes to sound.
Unrelated, but earth tones is such an underrated set. I have it on my Typface Univers and it bangs. Also Xinhai and Clouds are the best bois of the HMX lineup imo lol.
If I have to pick one it's Xinhai. It's nice that they have so many that are similar but slightly different though. If you have a selection of HMXs, you can really fine tune a board WRT pitch and typing feel, while remaining in the same basic ballpark.
Would've loved to have heard the comparisons from the same keys. Different areas produce different pitch. For example, the Deep Navy sounded a bit deeper than I'm used to hearing it. Everything on the right side of that keyboard sounded deeper. I appreciate the effort though 👍
Ya there are so many different variables when it comes to sound tests and I didn’t have a bunch of time to put them together. If i do an update one I’ll just do the same 3 keys.
Yo bob i think you are a fan of HMX switches, can i ask you again? which hmx switch do you think that are the most loudest and clackiest one? give me like 3-5 switches name
I'd like to call HMX the "poc poc poc" switches... Dang, moving from lower pitched Milky Yellow to Cheese and Xinhai is pretty wild, I didn't like it first but it truly grew on me! These HMX are light smooth and satisfying to type on.
Do you think replacing a pc plate to pom or pp will make a huge difference for hmx switches? My xinhais already slap even on a pc plate but wondering if it's worth it to change to make it even better. Great video btw.
The EVA is ever so slightly deeper and more muted. Theyre pretty similar. The Canglan has more of the HMX pop that their known for. Cant go wrong with either if your looking for a deeper and quieter sound than other hmx.
sup m8 ... what's difference between xinhai and cheese, in terms of pitch and loudness ? which one would you prefer I heard that cheese sounds thin. do they actually sound that thin irl compare with xinhai ?
They’re two of my favorite switches and sound very similar. I would say the cheese is ever so slightly louder. But they both great. I wouldn’t say either one is thin at all.
@@BokehhBob alright m8... that's a shot right there. I'm ordering hmx cheese. currently they restocked in my country. Thank you for the answer, mate 👍🫡
Hey Bob what's a good budget board recommendation to really bring the Cheese's out? Currently running a QK75 with only plate foam but unsure if it will produce that higher pitch clack ive heard from your Envoy videos
really tough questions as I really like both. Cheese is more full, sunset gleam is slightly thinner and higher pitched. IMO you cant go wrong with either.
Hey. I was thinking on getting a lucky65 which has a flex cut plate. And I have been told that boards with that are more for deeper sound and I wont achieve that clackyness. Could I also get some advice from you? Thanks
I don’t have experience with that board, but generally if it’s stuffed with foam and had a bunch of flex cuts on the pcb and plate it’ll be hard to make clack because the holes in the plate and pcb.
I have a Lucky65 and I'm trying to make it sound more clacky at the moment. I'm using Akko Matcha Greens, which sound pretty clacky, but I found it really helps to remove the foam in the bottom of the case to increase the higher frequencies. Removing the case foam has not revealed any ugly case pinginess, just made the sound more resonant and high-pitched. Overall, it's a really decent sounding board. I'm planning on buying some HMX switches to increase the clackiness of the build. It's probably possible to remove some of the foams or other dampening layers between the PCB and the plate as well, but I haven't played around with that yet. There is also a FR4 plate that you can get for the Lucky65. The regular plate is PC, so the FR4 should raise the pitch of the sound in comparison. It's something I'm also planning on trying in the future. I think it's definitely possible to achieve a clacky build with the Lucky65, it's a great (in-stock!) board especially at that price.
@@BokehhBob Oh okay, interesting! I was under the impression that FR4 was a stiffer material and would help get a more high-pitched sound in comparison to PC. I’ve also heard sound tests where FR4 usually sounded less “thocky” than PC or POM.
@@namedoesmatter ive always thought FR4 makes a board sound dead, muted etc. Could be me though,. If you want clack id go for carbon fiber or aluminum.
Purple dawns are much much quieter and deeper. Poro is not as loud or as high pitch as Xinhai either, I’d say it’s somewhere between the Xinhai and purple dawn.
the alphas even on the same row would give different sounds for the same switch. I don't think it is the best way to compare switches sounds using this method 😅😅
alphas same row are the closest to recreating same position switch comparison(assuming it's positioned closer to each other and not on each opposite side of the alphas). better than diff rows so I'd say it's a good sound test overall
which hyacinth? v2 or v2u? Either way the raptors will be the loudest, with the normal v2 closely behind. Macs and v2u are very similar but not that far behind either in terms of loudest.
@@BokehhBob I was referring to the v2u, and could you compare these 3 switches to to xhinhai, I'm basically looking for something which comes closest to the xinhai in terms of sound profile and clack. As these 3 are the only offerings with the vendor in my country.
hi im new to the keyboard scene ... but could anyone tell me which hmx switch would be best for gaming ? i know the raptors have gaming in them but if that isnt the fastest can anyone tell me which is ? i have the hmx violet on my rainy but was curious if there are faster options
Realistically it would be the raptor or vintage citrus. However, there is no Mx switch that would give you any type of advantage while gaming really, it’s all a sham that gaming companies put out back in the day.
@@BokehhBob Thanks for the reply ! Yeah i get it’s a sham but the quicker actuation does help abit in game sometimes hence why i was looking for the shortest one haha
@@aybz6739 it’s such a small amount it’s negligible. Atleast imo. Unless you’re playing as a pro and making money from it, kinda pointless. But to each their own!
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Great video Bob, it really outlines the subtle differences in the HMX lineup that are otherwise hard to distinguish in separate sound tests.
Thanks Tyler, appreciate the support!
I'm very sorry, but sound tests comparing switches that are located in different areas of the keyboard are not reliable. Even the same switch can sound different depending on which area of the keyboard it is in. This doesn't make sense.
thats why I kept them in the same row.
Atleast in my experience rows usually sound the same. Take for example the board im typing on now, all my switches in the same row sound the same. it isnt perfect, nothing will be, but it gives a good idea of what to expect.
@@BokehhBob thanks for taking the tiem to do the test, but it does not give a good idea of what to expect, sorry. The pitch always ascends when you move from left to right. Is Canglan that much higher in pitch than Eva and Milky white? You sorted the switches in pairs of 3 to always ascend in pitch?
@@bosenngantor9160 ya that would take a very long time hence why I resorted to doing this.
It’s a moot point. YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT first off. Let’s just get that out of the way first. The reason it’s moot is as I am sure you know: you can’t ever really know how it’s gonna sound till you fully build it in your case, with your caps on your desk. So think of these videos like the lady at the grocery store handing out cheese samples. Bob you should put the switches on a tooth pick for a thumb nail lol
Appreciate the effort but with the switches in different locations, this test doesn't amount to much. Like you said, it would take a long time to do if you did this with them all in the same place and just cut back and forth, but that would be much more useful comparison
hmx have been producing very nicely sound switches!
They have! They keep coming out with great options and very affordable too!
I just started using some of these and they are incredible. 0 stem wobble and very good factory lube. My only complaint is they all sounds rather similar and clacky. I'm hoping for different variations of sound profile and even tactiles in the future.
Tactiles are in the works. As far as different sounds have you tried say canglan v2’s or Eva’s they’re significantly deeper then most other hmx.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I know that some people might not be happy with the ¨sound test,¨ but it gives us a better idea what each switch sounds like. Quick question, does HMX make any tactile switches? I really like their clacky sound profile, but I prefer tactiles over linears.
no tactile switches yet, but theyre in the works.
Thanks for the comment and appreciate the support. Some people just don't realize everything is absolute unfortunately. Any sound test is for a general idea as there are so many variables when it comes to sound.
Try BSUN's tactiles, they're well made, well lubed and light, right up the HMX alley. The Hutt (Panda like), Hillstone, Pine...
@@LastSecBloomer bsuns are solid but tend to be deeper in tone than most HmX switches.
@@LastSecBloomer Ok, thanks for the tip!
Damn, went from Cloud vs Macchiato to HMX Civil War
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0:56 - Xinhai
0:59 - Sunset Gleam
1:02 - Geon x HMX Extreme Gaming
1:20 - Jammies
1:22 - Blue Topaz
1:24 - Cheese
1:40 - Macchiato
1:42 - Swift
1:43 - Cloud
1:57 - Canglan v2
1:59 - Milky White
2:01 - Eva
2:13 - Deep Navy
2:16 - Hyacinth v2U
2:17 - Hyacinth v2
2:29 - Lotus
2:30 - Emo
2:32 - Poro
Unrelated, but earth tones is such an underrated set. I have it on my Typface Univers and it bangs. Also Xinhai and Clouds are the best bois of the HMX lineup imo lol.
yeah its a solid set! Xinhai and clouds are S tier for me!
@@BokehhBob definitely agree!
Hi. And how about cheese?@@BokehhBob
@@isu6225also S tier.
@@BokehhBob thank you!)
If I have to pick one it's Xinhai. It's nice that they have so many that are similar but slightly different though. If you have a selection of HMXs, you can really fine tune a board WRT pitch and typing feel, while remaining in the same basic ballpark.
agreed. HMX is so good atm. The price is outstanding too.
Would've loved to have heard the comparisons from the same keys. Different areas produce different pitch. For example, the Deep Navy sounded a bit deeper than I'm used to hearing it. Everything on the right side of that keyboard sounded deeper. I appreciate the effort though 👍
Ya there are so many different variables when it comes to sound tests and I didn’t have a bunch of time to put them together. If i do an update one I’ll just do the same 3 keys.
great video! quick question, what do u think is the best hmx switch?
Xinhai, cheese or sunset gleam
been waiting for a video like this 'cause i'm trying to figure which are the clackiest switches from hmx, thanks!
Glad I could help! I’d say Xinhai, cheese, sunset gleam are good choices for clackiest
@@BokehhBob that is actually are my top 3, glad to have some reassurance!
Love the comparison! Which sound deepest to you IRL?
Eva, Canglan or Purple Dawn
I would say the new gachapon are up there too
Yo bob i think you are a fan of HMX switches, can i ask you again? which hmx switch do you think that are the most loudest and clackiest one? give me like 3-5 switches name
Xinhai, Sunset Gleam, Cheese, Blue topaz, lotus.
thanks bob. i enjoy watching your video. i like those clacky sound XD
Thanks
I'd like to call HMX the "poc poc poc" switches... Dang, moving from lower pitched Milky Yellow to Cheese and Xinhai is pretty wild, I didn't like it first but it truly grew on me! These HMX are light smooth and satisfying to type on.
huge difference from milky yellow to any hmx imo! Cheeses are great!
Do you think replacing a pc plate to pom or pp will make a huge difference for hmx switches? My xinhais already slap even on a pc plate but wondering if it's worth it to change to make it even better. Great video btw.
thanks. I personally think PC sounds really plastic like. POM or PP will get rid of that plastic noise and sound more full. Atleast imo.
thank you for the comparison! i couldn’t hear from the video, but would you say the canglan v2 is more thocky than the evas, or the other way round?
The EVA is ever so slightly deeper and more muted. Theyre pretty similar. The Canglan has more of the HMX pop that their known for. Cant go wrong with either if your looking for a deeper and quieter sound than other hmx.
@@BokehhBob thank you! i personally prefer deeper and thocky sounds so i’ve been avoiding hmx switches but now seems a good time to try them out 😊
@@alin543 try the eva or canglan v2.
Love HMX switches. I am guilty of hoarding way too much of them.
SAME
sup m8 ... what's difference between xinhai and cheese, in terms of pitch and loudness ? which one would you prefer
I heard that cheese sounds thin. do they actually sound that thin irl compare with xinhai ?
They’re two of my favorite switches and sound very similar. I would say the cheese is ever so slightly louder. But they both great. I wouldn’t say either one is thin at all.
@@BokehhBob alright m8... that's a shot right there. I'm ordering hmx cheese. currently they restocked in my country. Thank you for the answer, mate 👍🫡
Bob! Stop giving me excuses to buy more HMX switches 😅😂
Get um all 😂
@@BokehhBob Getting there 😅
Hey Bob what's a good budget board recommendation to really bring the Cheese's out? Currently running a QK75 with only plate foam but unsure if it will produce that higher pitch clack ive heard from your Envoy videos
Any Neo board with a CF plate.
@@BokehhBob do you typically go for CF plates if they're available or do you lean more towards aluminum for your preferred sound signature?
Carbon, Pom, pp or nylon. Alu isn’t bad either
Ayyo Sir, this is ultimately what i searching for. Goat content
Thanks! I got some more that i need to add and update to it 😆
Hi Bob, which one do you prefer: Cheese or Sunset?
really tough questions as I really like both. Cheese is more full, sunset gleam is slightly thinner and higher pitched. IMO you cant go wrong with either.
@@BokehhBob great, im gonna get both then the problem is solved :))
btw great video as usual!
@@schmosby9631 thanks! if you get them through unikeys use my code for 7% off!
awesome video ! could you get their violets?
Thanks! Who’s violets?
@@BokehhBob HMX-Violet they’re utilized in the Rainy75. I think out of most used in this video, Violet is an outlier in terms of sound.
@@raythekid_ I am not sure if you can get them without buying the board.
Despite the sound, what's the most soft to type?
I’d say any of the 3.9 travel Hmx. Macs, purple dawn or the new 3.9 sunset gleams
i just put some xinhai's on my 8xv3 sounds pretty nice with a alu plate
ive yet to find a board xinhais dont sound nice in lol
Hey bob, whats the thing you put under your keyboard?
That is a keebmat.
Keebmat!
How do the canglans compare to milky whites? From the test it seems like canglans are a bit louder
Tone is similar, canglang are slightly louder.
Hey. I was thinking on getting a lucky65 which has a flex cut plate. And I have been told that boards with that are more for deeper sound and I wont achieve that clackyness. Could I also get some advice from you? Thanks
I don’t have experience with that board, but generally if it’s stuffed with foam and had a bunch of flex cuts on the pcb and plate it’ll be hard to make clack because the holes in the plate and pcb.
I have a Lucky65 and I'm trying to make it sound more clacky at the moment. I'm using Akko Matcha Greens, which sound pretty clacky, but I found it really helps to remove the foam in the bottom of the case to increase the higher frequencies. Removing the case foam has not revealed any ugly case pinginess, just made the sound more resonant and high-pitched. Overall, it's a really decent sounding board. I'm planning on buying some HMX switches to increase the clackiness of the build.
It's probably possible to remove some of the foams or other dampening layers between the PCB and the plate as well, but I haven't played around with that yet. There is also a FR4 plate that you can get for the Lucky65. The regular plate is PC, so the FR4 should raise the pitch of the sound in comparison. It's something I'm also planning on trying in the future. I think it's definitely possible to achieve a clacky build with the Lucky65, it's a great (in-stock!) board especially at that price.
@@namedoesmatter I would recommend staying with the PC instead of FR4, in my experience FR4 mutes your boared and makes it "thocky"
@@BokehhBob Oh okay, interesting! I was under the impression that FR4 was a stiffer material and would help get a more high-pitched sound in comparison to PC. I’ve also heard sound tests where FR4 usually sounded less “thocky” than PC or POM.
@@namedoesmatter ive always thought FR4 makes a board sound dead, muted etc. Could be me though,. If you want clack id go for carbon fiber or aluminum.
congratz u just bought the same switch in 18 different colorings kekw
YA!
how the poros and purple dawn compared to xinhais in terms of pitch and volume, which switch is louder ?
Purple dawns are much much quieter and deeper. Poro is not as loud or as high pitch as Xinhai either, I’d say it’s somewhere between the Xinhai and purple dawn.
Is that gmk earth tone ? look so different compared to the render lol.
Yeah this camera wasn’t really color corrected. But it’s a lot of yellow than i thought.
Expected a back-to-back sound test…
That’s alot expecting it’s 18 switches. Rebuilding a board 18 times and doing 18 sound tests would take a longgg time my dude.
@@BokehhBob true! that's why we need youtubers like you to help us man :D
@@Coco-lr1sc dont get paid enough for that lol
Now I need this mic🤣
Elgato wave 3, nothing crazy.
What the thockiest switch from hmx ?
Eva, purple dawn, canglan v2 or caramel pudding. They’re all pretty similar
oh! so Blue Topaz has the higher pitch than cheese and jammies! tho thinner in sound... hmmm
That’s a good conclusion. Jammie’s and blue topaz imo are pretty close
the alphas even on the same row would give different sounds for the same switch. I don't think it is the best way to compare switches sounds using this method 😅😅
No sound test is perfect, it’s to give people a general idea of what the switch sounds like.
alphas same row are the closest to recreating same position switch comparison(assuming it's positioned closer to each other and not on each opposite side of the alphas). better than diff rows so I'd say it's a good sound test overall
Comparing the macchiatos, raptors and the hyacinth which would you say has the loudest sound profile?
which hyacinth? v2 or v2u? Either way the raptors will be the loudest, with the normal v2 closely behind. Macs and v2u are very similar but not that far behind either in terms of loudest.
@@BokehhBob I was referring to the v2u, and could you compare these 3 switches to to xhinhai, I'm basically looking for something which comes closest to the xinhai in terms of sound profile and clack. As these 3 are the only offerings with the vendor in my country.
Just to be clear,
If you were to pick one among these considering the following factors,
1. Loudness
2. Clack
Which would you prefer.
@@thomasprince2066 Raptors, Macs, v2u... in that order.
Would you put raptors in your S-tier switches, and if you could really differentiate between the raptors and Mac in terms of feel that would be great.
hi im new to the keyboard scene ... but could anyone tell me which hmx switch would be best for gaming ? i know the raptors have gaming in them but if that isnt the fastest can anyone tell me which is ? i have the hmx violet on my rainy but was curious if there are faster options
Realistically it would be the raptor or vintage citrus. However, there is no Mx switch that would give you any type of advantage while gaming really, it’s all a sham that gaming companies put out back in the day.
@@BokehhBob Thanks for the reply ! Yeah i get it’s a sham but the quicker actuation does help abit in game sometimes hence why i was looking for the shortest one haha
@@aybz6739 it’s such a small amount it’s negligible. Atleast imo. Unless you’re playing as a pro and making money from it, kinda pointless. But to each their own!
i like hmx xinhai
same same
xinhai on 8xv3 please
1:43 2:17
Good video. Too bad they are all linear
they should have tactiles soonish, I know the ones they were working on had QC issues so theyre fixing that before they release.
xinhai or cloud hmm
both great, use both all the time.
These are all the same
Maybe to your ears.