Bears are afraid to put Bagent in. They know Bagent is a team player and locker room guy. They know he WILL PLAY BETTEF THAN CALEB. They know players would want to keep Bagent in.
@jaimeperry7326 A new Bears fan here and I find it interesting that management moved on, but not some fans and vets. So what's the point in talking about JF as a Bears QB and not a Steelers QB. After 3 yrs, Fields has moved on to find greener pastures as a Franchise QB.
@@superkat460 My comments not really about Fields but more about the team. Just like the Jets, the Bears don't prioritize the O Line. It doesn't matter who your QB is if your O Line is trash. Remember how bad even Mahomes looked against Tampa in the Superbowl when his O line played poorly. Not many fans know their names but everything starts with the linemen.
I never saw anything special in CW. He’s too short, he was surrounded by 4-5 stars in college playing against average players most games. He’s being exposed in the NFL.
@@pearsonw3 not necessarily Jaylin was the QB from day 1 also he is in a better situation period the HC is a defensive guy but smart enough to hire a not so long ago college oriented offensive QB coach!! To create design and implement a system similar to the one Daniel's ran in college to take full advantage of his knowledge and mental reps! That's very important he had a great relationship with Baker, Mahomes and even Murray had success in an offense lead by him
@ JD wasn’t QB 1 from the beginning .Marcus Mariota was. This made his teammates respect him because he took Marcus spot with his play in practice. Also nobody thought he was in a better situation before the season. I still will take the Bears WRs and defense over ours.
@pearsonw3 not going to argue with a bot but if you think any team drafted Daniel and was ever going to Start Marcus a three times failed QB who already once quit on a team because of his own bad play that believe what you want to believe ok!!
@@jyanharris7957 Never said they were going to start Marcus. They knew JD was going to start from the beginning. They just made him earn it. Marcus was the starter at the beginning of training camp and JD proved to the team that he was better and took his spot. Now you won’t have players calling for the backup QB like Chicago does.
Caleb just not good, he is holding the ball too long, not reading defenses, he is not taking easy completions. Taking sacks. He had bad fundamentals in college and doing the same things in the NFL. Fields would be in the playoffs with this roster
There were warning signs that he was not good under adversity in college, but the talking heads said almost nothing about it because he "was like Pat Mahomes." We still don't know how tall he is, but Baker and Brock were abused by Coward and the height police.
@HHHPedigrees *I'm pretty sure it would go over well if a GM doesn't draft a player because they paint their nails and that player becomes a perennial All Pro, I'm pretty sure the fan base would respect that GM reasoning of making that a part of his draft evaluation. Just because you can type something stupid as a fan doesn't mean you know anything.*
Caleb Williams, once under moonlight, was rumored to concoct spells from old grimoires, his playbook not of football but of arcane symbols. Whispers say he seeks the philosopher's stone to turn lead into gold, his touchdown dances are rituals, invoking ancient spirits for victory. His locker, adorned with sigils, holds not just gear but relics. His gaze, piercing through opponents, is said to cast the evil eye. In the dead of night, his chants echo, weaving spells for the next game day.
okay so can you remmber the last time the bears had a good QB? keep in mind calb is the third first round QB the bears have drafted in 6 years. they all cant be bad, in fact feilds is having a good season for the steelers. the bears are not a QB team. who do they always draft in the first round RBS and LBS. they had a rookie QB take them to the play offs . so they benched him and drafted rex grossman. then traded him for culter
@Mikethompson303 yeah. Caleb's fine. I think he's gonna be the best qb the bears have had. All these junior and redshirt sophomore day one nfl starters look like this. Darnold, fields, zach wilson, trey lance, for gods sake trevor lawrence, bryce young, anthony richardson and like 7 other qbs from the last 6 years that have had a hard time but I think caleb is tough enough to stick with it as his skills catch up to his talent. Eventually they stop picking these 3 year college guys so high constantly
@@Colton2418 Tom Brady for Drew Brees. I'm sure a lot of people were laughing then. I have no idea who Tyson Bagent is or what is capable of, but don't fall in love with anyone. I wish Caleb the best, but the BEARS don't seem to be astute at assessing and drafting quarterbacks. Just and observation.
Bagent busted his ass all off-season getting better and stronger. He absolutely killed it in the preseason. He is widely recognized by sports media as one of the Top 3 backup QBs in the league. So, let Caleb sit and give Tyson a chance to show what he can do.
Never thought he'd be as good as people thought...😂! They got caught up in the USC hype and thought he'd look the same as a rookie...not even CLOSE. He won't even start a decade...it's not gunna work Rob!...👎🏾
I wanted Marvin Harrison Jr. and Rome.Odunze give Justin Fields some weapons, moves the defense back, gives Justin and the RB room to run. 2nd option take Jayden Daniels.
I posted this on Facebook after they drafted Caleb. Tyson has more leader intangibles and he played ok when he got a chance to play. I bet and certain if he got more reps and got to play more games he'd become a good starting NFL QB.. The NFL just overdrafts QBs all the time. The Bears should have just let Tyson play this 1st year and let Caleb sit. Bc what u could have done is let Tyson play and build up trade stock for him or at best make him a more prepared backup. Idk why all you commentators thought he would be a star this year..
CW18 is a bust, period. The Bears should have stayed the course with JF1 and build a run first and pass 2nd offense. Bears defense has allways been top notch. You can win 🐻⬇
"He's so talented" I'm saying where? Like honestly, what exactly does Caleb do exceptionally well? I saw this man overthrow a checkdown on Sunday......a checkdown. Somebody please tell me what Caleb does well because the only thing I see is a quick release (Which doesn't make you talented) and maybe a change in arm slot when throwing (Many other Qb"s can do that) and/or the ability to throw on the run (Again other qbs can do that). Where is the unique talent?
Kelvin is exactly right. Football is a TEAM SPORT. If the players don’t like him then there will be no cohesion. If he is a jerk his OL isn’t going to be motivated to do extra to protect him. FOOTBALL IS THE BIGGEST TEAM SPORT THERE IS AND YOU HAVE TO LIKE AND BOND. The locker room loved Fields. He was a great locker room guy. DJ Moore didn’t want them to trade Fields and said so in an interview You can tell Moore does not want Caleb. Players don’t even help Caleb up when he is sacked and that tells you everything. They always helped Fields up. LIKING YOUR QB MATTERS
@talktome233 *DJ Moore didn't have to accept Chicago's money, no one forced him to stay in Chicago, he could have moved on. And I can guarantee you, the players who are complaining about Caleb Williams aren't players drafted by the Chicago Bears, they have no natural ties to the team, this is what you get when you have a team built by to mercenary players, there are just to many free agents on this team, real team cohesion isn't there. Build Through The Draft Is Better Than Free Agent Signings!*
a lot of the sacks are cause HE IS holding onto the ball too long... alot of the other sacks are coming from him not knowing where the blitz is coming from cause he dont know how to read defenses
Wrong they said after 9 sacks and down 3 scores in final 3 minutes of game take out Caleb b4 he you get him hurt or worse have more situational awareness two weeks in a row he failed to do this or change offensive scheme and calls
What did he do in college that we have never seen before. What one thing has he brought to the nfl that we have never seen before. Look this guy is an average player at best and his teammates just don't like the guy. It's obvious watch the film it's right there.
Personally to me they should have kept Justin Fields. Their offensive line still is putrid, their receivers get covered a great majority of times and can’t separate. The running game was awful as well to the point that Justin for sure was the only weapon when he was there!
see feeling again. 9 games is enough to tell you, he holds the ball to long. he cant hit the open guy. you know the same stuff they said about him before he got drafted. why is it so hard toi say he needs time?.
I agree. I think they should allow him to play behind another QB. He does need time. His confidence is going to be shattered if it keeps going like this.
Can’t you guys just look at the film and see that the line is not as bad as what people say and see that the players do not like Caleb Williams that’s why they don’t pick him up after he get sacked and when he makes comments about his team, but he can’t do everything like if he does nothing wrong? Are you guys really this blind?
😂😂😂.. Bro! Caleb doesn't deserve a pass. But anyone who thinks that this offense line is not the worse in the League after watching the film, is a moron or pushing a narrative. The Bears bad play on the o line is the only thing everyone can agree on.
I think Caleb is going to be just fine, but I don’t understand WHY this is a surprise to anyone. Why would you wipe the slate clean with drafting Caleb, clear the decks for him by getting some weapons, then deciding to keep the same crappy HC from the year before. OF COURSE this was going to happen. 😂
He had to be borderline hall of fame or this was a huge mistake . Can't just be fine. He was the number 2 pick and thry lived on from another young qb who isn't much older
@@Kenwoodsports.MGeez buddy really? Sure he's had some accuracy issues being a rookie, but have you seen some of the absolute dimes he's thrown into coverage? You can't coach that!
@Kenwoodsports.M Caleb is bad, but even a moron can see the coaching is bad. There was 5 plays Sunday, where the WR on the same side ran the same route. It's ridiculous. Having a rookie QB checking at the line every play.
Nothing wrong with benching a player especially if they are a rookie quarterback that is struggling. If anything all rookie quarterbacks shouldn’t play until their 3rd or 4th season so they can learn.
Players in general are so whiny these days, it's only going to get worse because of the NIL. They need to understand what to keep in house and stop being a crybaby
Historically, the Chicago Bears have proven that they can't properly draft or develop Qbs. 1st, it was Justin Fields is bad now, it's Caleb. The ownership needs to reevaluate.
Kelvin yes he hold the 🏈 to long but he is not the 1st great College QB to hold it to long in the NFL can you say Allen, Mahomes etc that coaching he has way to many can't miss skills and talent he needs way better coaching and you don't draft a QB this talented and NOT run his college system and just tweek it a little bit! Daniels is playing well because the HC brought in a ex-college coach that ran the right system for him! ie Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield college coach! He need an OC like EB a guys who tough, demands fundamentals and discipline from all of the offensive players!!
Rob Parker sounds foolish. What does Caleb's bad play is he not noticing? All of these Caleb idolaters, including Rob, are getting on my nerves. Caleb is not the next Mahomes. He's the next Zach Wilson unless he learns how to play from the pocket. What's ironic is Rob was originally an Aaron Rodgers guy, but then Mahomes came along and blew past Rodgers with Super Bowl wins. Rob loves to take shots at Mahomes but yet is a stan for the Mahomes fake in Caleb. Now he's using feelings over facts and going on a silly rant because the Bears players want Caleb benched. That's hilarious. Just like all the other Caleb idolaters blaming everyone else but Caleb. The Bears have coaching issues and are dysfunctional, but Caleb's style of play doesn't translate to the NFL. Caleb takes too many sacks, fumbles too much (at least in college), plays hero ball too much, inconsistent from the pocket, plays out of structure too much, and immature. He is playing exactly the same way he did in college except he's not getting away with that playground ball stuff he does. The "flashes" Rob speaks of are the Jags & Panthers, two bad teams with terrible defenses. Think of them like San Jose State & Arizona State, whereas the rest of the teams Caleb played were more like Notre Dame. If was a fifth we all be drunk Rob. Don't talk about that Commanders game because it shouldn't have come down to that because the Commanders couldn't score in the red zone. If you're going to do a what if, I can play that too. What if the Titans hadn't turned the ball over in week 1, what if Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua were healthy when the Bears played the Rams, that's 2 more losses. If Caleb does not learn how to play consistently from the pocket, he will be a bust. He's not the best prospect since Andrew Luck. Y'all believe that lie. He was, in my opinion, maybe the 3rd best QB behind Penix & Jayden.
It’s so funny how before Williams even threw a pass people were talking about how he was going to be “All-Time” great. A comedy show. I hate to say it, but these players think they’re the greatest ever & want respect before they ever earned anything!
When you have a new QB, ESPECIALLY the #1 overall pick, sorry... suck it up. That coach is staying MINIMUM of 3 years. Firing the OC was a bad move. Hiring him in the first place was a worse one.
ever yuear the bears have a higher draft pick then KC. green bay ,the pat, 49ERS, the seahanks. so how do they end up with great QBS . because they want them. the bears never play to the strengnh of their QBs. they have tried to make thses guys in to pocket passers.
Yeah he did good against the 3 worst def in the nfl yoh keep saying what would happen if they won the games against Washington ok what if they would have loss the game against the titans they record could be worse
see he is feeling stuff ,not thinking. if you think yes rookie QBS sometimes have to seat ,it happened in kc, and in green bay. so what is wrong with saying he"s just not there yet /. do rogers seat in green bay ? did"t tom brady seat? this is called thinking not feeling
Saw this coming if true. I think if Caleb showed humility and even a little bit of ability, this may be happening. It wasn’t as if Caleb was a dawg in that Commander game. But when I saw DJ Moore walk off the field in the middle of a play, I knew it was done.
the defense and special teams contributed heavily but where Williams' performance was pivotal in maintaining offensive balance. Support System: The Bears' investment in offensive talent like DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, and rookie Rome Odunze suggests a strong foundation for Williams to grow. His ability to utilize these weapons will be crucial, but early signs are positive, with moments of synergy between him and his receivers. In conclusion, while the journey to NFL stardom is never without its hurdles, Caleb Williams' statistics and the qualitative aspects of his play argue compellingly against the label of "bust." His development trajectory, supported by both numbers and team dynamics, indicates he is on the path to becoming a cornerstone for the Bears for years to come.
an MVP. Team Impact: Winning Games: While individual stats are important, team success is often the ultimate measure. The Bears have had moments where the offense, led by Williams, managed to keep games close or secure wins, like against the Titans, where the defense and special teams contributed heavily but where Williams' performance was pivotal in maintaining offensive balance. Support System: The Bears' investment in offensive talent like DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, and rookie Rome Odunze suggests a strong foundation for Williams to grow. His ability to utilize these weapons will be crucial, but early signs are positive, with moments of synergy between him and his receivers. In conclusion, while the journey to NFL stardom is never without its hurdles, Caleb Williams' statistics and the qualitative aspects of his play argue compellingly against the label of "bust." His development trajectory, supported by both numbers and team dynamics, indicates he is on the path to becoming a cornerstone for the Bears for years to come.
everyone whining bout the game they didnt win against Washington when Caleb played like trash sayin the D let them down. well, how bout every other game this season when the Defense literally kept them in games cause they were ballin and Caleb wasnt... ppl cant have it both ways. Caleb aint that dude. ppl like finding excuses and scapegoats when theyre player just aint cuttin it
im about to stop listening to the politics u keep talking about dont hate on bagent cause he can stand still and throw calib is tap dancing around when he throws watch the tape those two throws i saw last week look like bob avelelini if u know who he is maybe u do know what your talking about but i would say wind or the worst 2 throws bye any bear qb ever all time and so many over throws that are into triple coverage any way only way he make a play like he wants to have to improvise but that is not working out cause thats when the play has broken down already justin would never went down from a arm touching his arm and pulling him down either bye the way
no bagent as a rookie played better then calb. and in preseason he played better. the only reason people wo"t want him in is because of who calb is surpose to be which he is not. brady had less talent but was a better QB
@@sevinbamuels6560HORRIBLE? GTF Atta here! You watch any games or just ESPN highlights? Bagent is a better QB today! Maybe not in 2 years but he is today!
I have watched and love the Bears for 20+ years, and we keep getting quarterbacks and putting them out there before they're ready. I don't think there's any issue sitting a quarterback so that they can see how it works behind someone else. Patrick Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith, and they still have a bond today. Jordan sat behind Arod and they both have such mutual respect for each other. There is nothing wrong with sitting a quarterback until they're ready, we need to stop rushing these guys. I am fine with Caleb Williams being our quarterback of the future. I think he has it. I like his swag, I like how he is; however, every passing week you can tell he's believing in himself less, he is not throwing the ball enough. He is gun shy, which is the opposite of Jordan love or PM15. Sitting does not mean we are moving on from him, it means we are investing in him.
Last year Bagent played with poise, showed that he's mobile, made fast reads, got the ball out quickly, and really made the entire offense look cohesive. They're not gonna make the playoffs. So, let him play. Nothing to lose. Caleb needs to hit the reset button anyway.
Well Caleb is a Rookie with Only 9 games under his belt. Caleb has shown good and bad things. With that said, ANY Veteran on this team, that is Not supportive of Caleb; Can request a Trade.
Caleb Williams can't throw the ball beyond 15 yards accurately.... He's inaccurate! The media including you Rob are in your feelings! The data says he's bad and his teammates know it and those "other reasons" (painting nails, not a great leader, on top of being inaccurate) do factor into them wanting out! You so called talent evaluators don't know how to evaluate talent and I wouldn't trust any scout who hasn't played!
Way too much hype for CW. Ryan Poles got played by a bunch of pundits and talk radio hosts who rarely get their predictions RIGHT. CW peaked when he won the hieseman trophy. I just hope Poles is learning to do diligence and not listen to sports media bots
You don't bench your rookie quarterback for your second string quarterback putting in bagent is not the answers you ride with the number one draft pick that's crazy
To little,time to past judgement!It don’t look great,but there are a lot of factors involved!But it looks like he needs to unite his team under his leadership!You gotta earn your stripes with your platoon!
A few vets led by DJ publicly said JF should still be QB. Will he talk toxic against new OC? CW needs an OC to develop gen potential to overcome holding ball too long, how to run for your life while reading defenses and finding receivers. Every QB needs a good oline first and foremost.
Bears are afraid to put Bagent in. They know Bagent is a team player and locker room guy. They know he WILL PLAY BETTEF THAN CALEB. They know players would want to keep Bagent in.
big facts
Heck yes.
Maybe right now, but Bagent does not have a high ceiling as Caleb does. Caleb needs to develop.
@THAT_SKIBDIKK-TT Tyson Bagent has a very high Football IQ much higher then Caleb Williams.
@@koolsmoothfanI've been saying this for 3-4 weeks now, bench Caleb Williams and play Tyson Bagent.
Ive been saying this for 3-4 weeks now, Bench Caleb Williams and play Tyson Bagent. Let Caleb soak in the speed of the game.
Tyson Bagent is a division 2 Heisman and holds the record for NCAA touchdowns in a career
You saw it hard knocks the guy is more accurate
The same bagent that threw more ints than tds last season? Yea I'm good.
And lamar is a heisman and 2xmvp but he has to do it in the playoffs huh?
Lol! Yeah let's Bench the rookie the team invest their franchise on for a player that can't play!!!nice!
@sevinbamuels6560 what does it matter? They did it to bryce
they should have kept Justin Fields and built an offensive line with the resources they expended for Caleb Williams ...
@jaimeperry7326 A new Bears fan here and I find it interesting that management moved on, but not some fans and vets. So what's the point in talking about JF as a Bears QB and not a Steelers QB. After 3 yrs, Fields has moved on to find greener pastures as a Franchise QB.
@@superkat460 My comments not really about Fields but more about the team. Just like the Jets, the Bears don't prioritize the O Line. It doesn't matter who your QB is if your O Line is trash. Remember how bad even Mahomes looked against Tampa in the Superbowl when his O line played poorly. Not many fans know their names but everything starts with the linemen.
Fields would be in the playoffs with this roster. He was getting better even with horrible coaching.
@@MichaelWilliams-pu2ur nobody is going to win with the current O Line. They can't run the ball and they can't protect the passer.
Facts
I never saw anything special in CW. He’s too short, he was surrounded by 4-5 stars in college playing against average players most games. He’s being exposed in the NFL.
That Part
I don’t like CW but he is listed as 6’1. There are 9 starting qbs that are 6’1 or shorter including him. Height ain’t his problem.
What “Stars” did he play with at USC? 😂😂😂
@@zahslu7748 you’re not getting recruited to USC if you’re not highly ranked in most recruiting services. Do you know anything about college football?
This is why Washington made Jaylin win the job instead of just giving it to him like Chicago did Caleb
@@pearsonw3 not necessarily Jaylin was the QB from day 1 also he is in a better situation period the HC is a defensive guy but smart enough to hire a not so long ago college oriented offensive QB coach!! To create design and implement a system similar to the one Daniel's ran in college to take full advantage of his knowledge and mental reps! That's very important he had a great relationship with Baker, Mahomes and even Murray had success in an offense lead by him
@ JD wasn’t QB 1 from the beginning .Marcus Mariota was. This made his teammates respect him because he took Marcus spot with his play in practice. Also nobody thought he was in a better situation before the season. I still will take the Bears WRs and defense over ours.
@pearsonw3 not going to argue with a bot but if you think any team drafted Daniel and was ever going to Start Marcus a three times failed QB who already once quit on a team because of his own bad play that believe what you want to believe ok!!
@@jyanharris7957 Never said they were going to start Marcus. They knew JD was going to start from the beginning. They just made him earn it. Marcus was the starter at the beginning of training camp and JD proved to the team that he was better and took his spot. Now you won’t have players calling for the backup QB like Chicago does.
Caleb just not good, he is holding the ball too long, not reading defenses, he is not taking easy completions. Taking sacks. He had bad fundamentals in college and doing the same things in the NFL. Fields would be in the playoffs with this roster
Mfers still dont want to admit caleb williams just isnt that good... put tyson in, and lets see how the offense looks! 💯
There were warning signs that he was not good under adversity in college, but the talking heads said almost nothing about it because he "was like Pat Mahomes." We still don't know how tall he is, but Baker and Brock were abused by Coward and the height police.
Bro relax you're not a scout by watching NFL games on your t.v. He's a rookie
Never trust a QB that paints his nails
💯💯💯
What? That makes no sense, you must be a kid or a bigot.
Never
@HHHPedigrees
*I'm pretty sure it would go over well if a GM doesn't draft a player because they paint their nails and that player becomes a perennial All Pro, I'm pretty sure the fan base would respect that GM reasoning of making that a part of his draft evaluation. Just because you can type something stupid as a fan doesn't mean you know anything.*
Williams is completely overrated, but that’s what you call a: non sequitur fallacy. 🤦🏼♂️
If CW struggles against GB, bench him rest of yr for Tyson !!
Maybe Caleb is bad? Maybe a thought?
He is. Real bad
Caleb Williams, once under moonlight, was rumored to concoct spells from old grimoires, his playbook not of football but of arcane symbols. Whispers say he seeks the philosopher's stone to turn lead into gold, his touchdown dances are rituals, invoking ancient spirits for victory. His locker, adorned with sigils, holds not just gear but relics. His gaze, piercing through opponents, is said to cast the evil eye. In the dead of night, his chants echo, weaving spells for the next game day.
okay so can you remmber the last time the bears had a good QB? keep in mind calb is the third first round QB the bears have drafted in 6 years. they all cant be bad, in fact feilds is having a good season for the steelers. the bears are not a QB team. who do they always draft in the first round RBS and LBS. they had a rookie QB take them to the play offs . so they benched him and drafted rex grossman. then traded him for culter
@Mikethompson303 yeah. Caleb's fine. I think he's gonna be the best qb the bears have had. All these junior and redshirt sophomore day one nfl starters look like this. Darnold, fields, zach wilson, trey lance, for gods sake trevor lawrence, bryce young, anthony richardson and like 7 other qbs from the last 6 years that have had a hard time but I think caleb is tough enough to stick with it as his skills catch up to his talent. Eventually they stop picking these 3 year college guys so high constantly
@macalloway1 caleb will be worst then Trevor lawrence
Those dudes have careers, stats and contracts on the line. Let Caleb learn and grow behind someone. It's not a bad thing.
It would make sense if it was a veteran but cmon man it’s Tyson bagent what can that bum teach anyonev
@@Colton2418 Tom Brady for Drew Brees. I'm sure a lot of people were laughing then. I have no idea who Tyson Bagent is or what is capable of, but don't fall in love with anyone.
I wish Caleb the best, but the BEARS don't seem to be astute at assessing and drafting quarterbacks. Just and observation.
@@Colton2418can't get no worse.
Exactly
Damn! About time Kelvin made his point I had to reread the title again.🤦🏾🤦🏾 where’s Chris? Imma start a gofundme account to pay Chris to come back.
We need a skip and rob podcast!!!
Day one, skip tells rob to put his glasses back on.
Bagent busted his ass all off-season getting better and stronger. He absolutely killed it in the preseason. He is widely recognized by sports media as one of the Top 3 backup QBs in the league. So, let Caleb sit and give Tyson a chance to show what he can do.
Rob would be better by himself. Dude is impossible to listen to. Rob deserves better than this
Yeah he 🗑️
I agree
😂 i cant stand him man hopefully it gets better but he is boring
i dont mind kelvin but damnnnnn broussard was a million times better..... WE! WANT! CHRIS! - WE! WANT! CHRIS!
He cool, he just try to joke too much ..like jus say your take lol
Kelvin Washington PASS THE DAMN BALL !! 😂😂😂🤣
Never thought he'd be as good as people thought...😂! They got caught up in the USC hype and thought he'd look the same as a rookie...not even CLOSE.
He won't even start a decade...it's not gunna work Rob!...👎🏾
The fact that they are throwing the rookie under the bus shows they have no leadership. No chemistry
Stupidity is another word to describe them.
Caleb can’t compete a 5 yard wide open pass. Put Bagent in. Caleb needs to be humbled
Jaden Daniel’s Shoulda Went #1
No he just has Calebs coach
Rob so bad at his job and he wonders why FOX sports keeps him in the 😢basement. 😂
I wanted Marvin Harrison Jr. and Rome.Odunze give Justin Fields some weapons, moves the defense back, gives Justin and the RB room to run. 2nd option take Jayden Daniels.
If you can’t lead, you can’t win. If the team starts to turn on him, then things can go sideways real quick
I posted this on Facebook after they drafted Caleb. Tyson has more leader intangibles and he played ok when he got a chance to play. I bet and certain if he got more reps and got to play more games he'd become a good starting NFL QB.. The NFL just overdrafts QBs all the time. The Bears should have just let Tyson play this 1st year and let Caleb sit. Bc what u could have done is let Tyson play and build up trade stock for him or at best make him a more prepared backup. Idk why all you commentators thought he would be a star this year..
Bro got talent around him. He is just not that good Rob.
They should've started Bagent in the first place, and if he struggled then bring him in, but they should've let him sit for at least half the season
CW18 is a bust, period. The Bears should have stayed the course with JF1 and build a run first and pass 2nd offense. Bears defense has allways been top notch. You can win 🐻⬇
My dudes its not about loosing only , its about playing awful can Caleb is playing awful and it rub off on all the players.
"He's so talented" I'm saying where? Like honestly, what exactly does Caleb do exceptionally well? I saw this man overthrow a checkdown on Sunday......a checkdown. Somebody please tell me what Caleb does well because the only thing I see is a quick release (Which doesn't make you talented) and maybe a change in arm slot when throwing (Many other Qb"s can do that) and/or the ability to throw on the run (Again other qbs can do that). Where is the unique talent?
lol you asked where is he talent at then named 3 things
He hands the ball off really well
Bagent is the same player who went 2-2 in his rookie year and threw 6 interceptions.. 😅
Don't the Bears have more weapons this year? That's what they have been saying.
Kelvin is exactly right. Football is a TEAM SPORT. If the players don’t like him then there will be no cohesion. If he is a jerk his OL isn’t going to be motivated to do extra to protect him. FOOTBALL IS THE BIGGEST TEAM SPORT THERE IS AND YOU HAVE TO LIKE AND BOND. The locker room loved Fields. He was a great locker room guy.
DJ Moore didn’t want them to trade Fields and said so in an interview You can tell Moore does not want Caleb. Players don’t even help Caleb up when he is sacked and that tells you everything. They always helped Fields up. LIKING YOUR QB MATTERS
@talktome233
*DJ Moore didn't have to accept Chicago's money, no one forced him to stay in Chicago, he could have moved on. And I can guarantee you, the players who are complaining about Caleb Williams aren't players drafted by the Chicago Bears, they have no natural ties to the team, this is what you get when you have a team built by to mercenary players, there are just to many free agents on this team, real team cohesion isn't there. Build Through The Draft Is Better Than Free Agent Signings!*
What happened to developing quarterbacks ?!
Caleb is extremely mediocre just watch the college film , my God. Poles is a chump , but he did draft a good punter
Extremely Medicra in college. Lol! No he wasn't. You're insane!! 😂😂😂😂 He's a bad pro, but he was dynamic in school.
a lot of the sacks are cause HE IS holding onto the ball too long... alot of the other sacks are coming from him not knowing where the blitz is coming from cause he dont know how to read defenses
Wrong they said after 9 sacks and down 3 scores in final 3 minutes of game take out Caleb b4 he you get him hurt or worse have more situational awareness two weeks in a row he failed to do this or change offensive scheme and calls
That's crazy Tyson is average at best plus he did nothing last year when Justin was hurt
I didn't expect his arm to be so weak
My goodness bro get to the point
lmao - we want broussard back!!!!!!!
They didn’t give up anything to get him, what is dawg talking about 😂😂😂
What did he do in college that we have never seen before. What one thing has he brought to the nfl that we have never seen before. Look this guy is an average player at best and his teammates just don't like the guy. It's obvious watch the film it's right there.
Yea I don’t think they believe in him at all
Personally to me they should have kept Justin Fields. Their offensive line still is putrid, their receivers get covered a great majority of times and can’t separate.
The running game was awful as well to the point that Justin for sure was the only weapon when he was there!
Agent Bagent will COOK with this team💯
They put Bagent in,then that means the Bears gave up, and there is literally nothing to keep watching for. Tyson his very bad.
Ive given the show as much as i can. but unless Rob goes solo i just cant anymore
Not sure what's stopping them. Not much to lose at this point. They can always put Caleb back if it doesnt work. He looked very good in pre-season.
I do miss Rob and Chris… Kelvin isn’t bad… He’s good. At first I thought he was terrible 😂
see feeling again. 9 games is enough to tell you, he holds the ball to long. he cant hit the open guy. you know the same stuff they said about him before he got drafted. why is it so hard toi say he needs time?.
I agree. I think they should allow him to play behind another QB. He does need time. His confidence is going to be shattered if it keeps going like this.
tyson is a physical stud and veterans can respect the way he practices compared to calib u sound like a calib lover F that
im glad he is rattled so was justin and he make it 3 seasons i bet calib dont make it 2 seasons
This show is bad lol
all good things must come to an end
Facts it's not the same
Can’t you guys just look at the film and see that the line is not as bad as what people say and see that the players do not like Caleb Williams that’s why they don’t pick him up after he get sacked and when he makes comments about his team, but he can’t do everything like if he does nothing wrong? Are you guys really this blind?
😂😂😂.. Bro! Caleb doesn't deserve a pass. But anyone who thinks that this offense line is not the worse in the League after watching the film, is a moron or pushing a narrative. The Bears bad play on the o line is the only thing everyone can agree on.
Thats what they said about J F. PITTSBURGH FIXED THIS. We just dont have the right coaches. POLES, u hired these guys
I think Caleb is going to be just fine, but I don’t understand WHY this is a surprise to anyone. Why would you wipe the slate clean with drafting Caleb, clear the decks for him by getting some weapons, then deciding to keep the same crappy HC from the year before. OF COURSE this was going to happen. 😂
He cant hit wide open targets and runs himself into sacks constantly. That aint coach fault. Thats on him
He had to be borderline hall of fame or this was a huge mistake . Can't just be fine. He was the number 2 pick and thry lived on from another young qb who isn't much older
Why is it that every other first round QB drafted this year is playing much better with lesser talent than Caleb?
@@Kenwoodsports.MGeez buddy really? Sure he's had some accuracy issues being a rookie, but have you seen some of the absolute dimes he's thrown into coverage? You can't coach that!
@Kenwoodsports.M Caleb is bad, but even a moron can see the coaching is bad. There was 5 plays Sunday, where the WR on the same side ran the same route. It's ridiculous. Having a rookie QB checking at the line every play.
Nothing wrong with benching a player especially if they are a rookie quarterback that is struggling. If anything all rookie quarterbacks shouldn’t play until their 3rd or 4th season so they can learn.
Players in general are so whiny these days, it's only going to get worse because of the NIL. They need to understand what to keep in house and stop being a crybaby
Historically, the Chicago Bears have proven that they can't properly draft or develop Qbs. 1st, it was Justin Fields is bad now, it's Caleb. The ownership needs to reevaluate.
Kelvin yes he hold the 🏈 to long but he is not the 1st great College QB to hold it to long in the NFL can you say Allen, Mahomes etc that coaching he has way to many can't miss skills and talent he needs way better coaching and you don't draft a QB this talented and NOT run his college system and just tweek it a little bit! Daniels is playing well because the HC brought in a ex-college coach that ran the right system for him! ie Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield college coach! He need an OC like EB a guys who tough, demands fundamentals and discipline from all of the offensive players!!
Rob Parker sounds foolish. What does Caleb's bad play is he not noticing? All of these Caleb idolaters, including Rob, are getting on my nerves. Caleb is not the next Mahomes. He's the next Zach Wilson unless he learns how to play from the pocket. What's ironic is Rob was originally an Aaron Rodgers guy, but then Mahomes came along and blew past Rodgers with Super Bowl wins. Rob loves to take shots at Mahomes but yet is a stan for the Mahomes fake in Caleb. Now he's using feelings over facts and going on a silly rant because the Bears players want Caleb benched. That's hilarious. Just like all the other Caleb idolaters blaming everyone else but Caleb. The Bears have coaching issues and are dysfunctional, but Caleb's style of play doesn't translate to the NFL.
Caleb takes too many sacks, fumbles too much (at least in college), plays hero ball too much, inconsistent from the pocket, plays out of structure too much, and immature. He is playing exactly the same way he did in college except he's not getting away with that playground ball stuff he does.
The "flashes" Rob speaks of are the Jags & Panthers, two bad teams with terrible defenses. Think of them like San Jose State & Arizona State, whereas the rest of the teams Caleb played were more like Notre Dame. If was a fifth we all be drunk Rob. Don't talk about that Commanders game because it shouldn't have come down to that because the Commanders couldn't score in the red zone. If you're going to do a what if, I can play that too. What if the Titans hadn't turned the ball over in week 1, what if Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua were healthy when the Bears played the Rams, that's 2 more losses. If Caleb does not learn how to play consistently from the pocket, he will be a bust. He's not the best prospect since Andrew Luck. Y'all believe that lie. He was, in my opinion, maybe the 3rd best QB behind Penix & Jayden.
It’s so funny how before Williams even threw a pass people were talking about how he was going to be “All-Time” great. A comedy show. I hate to say it, but these players think they’re the greatest ever & want respect before they ever earned anything!
He’s a bust period
And so is Rob’s new co-host
Relax. That's what you said about Sam Darnold, Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Baker Mayfield. You always overreact
@ never said that again he’s a bust
When you have a new QB, ESPECIALLY the #1 overall pick, sorry... suck it up. That coach is staying MINIMUM of 3 years. Firing the OC was a bad move. Hiring him in the first place was a worse one.
ever yuear the bears have a higher draft pick then KC. green bay ,the pat, 49ERS, the seahanks. so how do they end up with great QBS . because they want them. the bears never play to the strengnh of their QBs. they have tried to make thses guys in to pocket passers.
5:23 is he talking about the recent election? 🗳️
F GB
Yeah he did good against the 3 worst def in the nfl yoh keep saying what would happen if they won the games against Washington ok what if they would have loss the game against the titans they record could be worse
see he is feeling stuff ,not thinking. if you think yes rookie QBS sometimes have to seat ,it happened in kc, and in green bay. so what is wrong with saying he"s just not there yet /. do rogers seat in green bay ? did"t tom brady seat? this is called thinking not feeling
Bust!!
Saw this coming if true. I think if Caleb showed humility and even a little bit of ability, this may be happening. It wasn’t as if Caleb was a dawg in that Commander game. But when I saw DJ Moore walk off the field in the middle of a play, I knew it was done.
He sucks , fool of himself loves to wear dresses and paints his fingernails what did you expect Chicago fans.
the defense and special teams contributed heavily but where Williams' performance was pivotal in maintaining offensive balance.
Support System: The Bears' investment in offensive talent like DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, and rookie Rome Odunze suggests a strong foundation for Williams to grow. His ability to utilize these weapons will be crucial, but early signs are positive, with moments of synergy between him and his receivers.
In conclusion, while the journey to NFL stardom is never without its hurdles, Caleb Williams' statistics and the qualitative aspects of his play argue compellingly against the label of "bust." His development trajectory, supported by both numbers and team dynamics, indicates he is on the path to becoming a cornerstone for the Bears for years to come.
an MVP.
Team Impact:
Winning Games: While individual stats are important, team success is often the ultimate measure. The Bears have had moments where the offense, led by Williams, managed to keep games close or secure wins, like against the Titans, where the defense and special teams contributed heavily but where Williams' performance was pivotal in maintaining offensive balance.
Support System: The Bears' investment in offensive talent like DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, and rookie Rome Odunze suggests a strong foundation for Williams to grow. His ability to utilize these weapons will be crucial, but early signs are positive, with moments of synergy between him and his receivers.
In conclusion, while the journey to NFL stardom is never without its hurdles, Caleb Williams' statistics and the qualitative aspects of his play argue compellingly against the label of "bust." His development trajectory, supported by both numbers and team dynamics, indicates he is on the path to becoming a cornerstone for the Bears for years to come.
I told Bear 🐻 fans he the Black Zach Wilson and well here we are !😂🤣
@@universoullifebalanceThat's funny, but you're dead wrong. The Bears are just dysfunctional.
everyone whining bout the game they didnt win against Washington when Caleb played like trash sayin the D let them down. well, how bout every other game this season when the Defense literally kept them in games cause they were ballin and Caleb wasnt... ppl cant have it both ways. Caleb aint that dude. ppl like finding excuses and scapegoats when theyre player just aint cuttin it
Genrational Talent..😊
BS
Streets saying it’s fake news and Bagents dad spreading fake news to ESPN radio
im about to stop listening to the politics u keep talking about dont hate on bagent cause he can stand still and throw calib is tap dancing around when he throws watch the tape those two throws i saw last week look like bob avelelini if u know who he is maybe u do know what your talking about but i would say wind or the worst 2 throws bye any bear qb ever all time and so many over throws that are into triple coverage any way only way he make a play like he wants to have to improvise but that is not working out cause thats when the play has broken down already justin would never went down from a arm touching his arm and pulling him down either bye the way
first teach him to throw the ball away. second if he can count to 4 he has the ball to long
no bagent as a rookie played better then calb. and in preseason he played better. the only reason people wo"t want him in is because of who calb is surpose to be which he is not. brady had less talent but was a better QB
You're insane! Caleb is bad, Tyson is horrible!!
@@sevinbamuels6560HORRIBLE? GTF Atta here! You watch any games or just ESPN highlights? Bagent is a better QB today! Maybe not in 2 years but he is today!
I have watched and love the Bears for 20+ years, and we keep getting quarterbacks and putting them out there before they're ready. I don't think there's any issue sitting a quarterback so that they can see how it works behind someone else. Patrick Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith, and they still have a bond today. Jordan sat behind Arod and they both have such mutual respect for each other. There is nothing wrong with sitting a quarterback until they're ready, we need to stop rushing these guys.
I am fine with Caleb Williams being our quarterback of the future. I think he has it. I like his swag, I like how he is; however, every passing week you can tell he's believing in himself less, he is not throwing the ball enough. He is gun shy, which is the opposite of Jordan love or PM15. Sitting does not mean we are moving on from him, it means we are investing in him.
Last year Bagent played with poise, showed that he's mobile, made fast reads, got the ball out quickly, and really made the entire offense look cohesive. They're not gonna make the playoffs. So, let him play. Nothing to lose. Caleb needs to hit the reset button anyway.
If this is true they have to trade them player next off-season. They made a decision going with caleb and have to at least rock with him 3 more years
Kelvin needs an origin. I don't know where he's from. Did he ever put boots to the ground?😮
Well Caleb is a Rookie with Only 9 games under his belt. Caleb has shown good and bad things. With that said, ANY Veteran on this team, that is Not supportive of Caleb; Can request a Trade.
He is a rookie 😂
It's the Bears organization. It looks like when the players go somewhere else, they develop. Chicago do not develop their players.
Caleb Williams can't throw the ball beyond 15 yards accurately.... He's inaccurate! The media including you Rob are in your feelings! The data says he's bad and his teammates know it and those "other reasons" (painting nails, not a great leader, on top of being inaccurate) do factor into them wanting out! You so called talent evaluators don't know how to evaluate talent and I wouldn't trust any scout who hasn't played!
This was supposed to be a year to develop Williams. Bagent will never be the type of QB that Williams can be. He's a nice backup QB.
Way too much hype for CW. Ryan Poles got played by a bunch of pundits and talk radio hosts who rarely get their predictions RIGHT. CW peaked when he won the hieseman trophy. I just hope Poles is learning to do diligence and not listen to sports media bots
Caleb is not that good, let's be honest. Bears got caught up in the media hype about him, now their having buyers remorse..
These guys never wanted Caleb they wanted Justin but poles fucked up
Why Chris left the odd couple?
Maybe they’re seeing Tyson shred their defense in practice every week? This has turned into a clown show
You don't bench your rookie quarterback for your second string quarterback putting in bagent is not the answers you ride with the number one draft pick that's crazy
Caleb needs a Time-Out
To little,time to past judgement!It don’t look great,but there are a lot of factors involved!But it looks like he needs to unite his team under his leadership!You gotta earn your stripes with your platoon!
I remember before the season even started people were saying he was top 10… always knew he was gonna be a bust lol
His problem is he was doing to much talking before the season started
Should have pulled the Eli. Now they blame you. Always choose yourself people.
A few vets led by DJ publicly said JF should still be QB. Will he talk toxic against new OC? CW needs an OC to develop gen potential to overcome holding ball too long, how to run for your life while reading defenses and finding receivers. Every QB needs a good oline first and foremost.
Justin Fields!
Caleb should have sat a year and learned.
Rub NFL locker rooms don’t have popularity contest
I'm not a Caleb Williams fan (I wanted Daniels), but he hasn't even finished his rookie season and people are calling him a bust. That's ridiculous.
Tyrod Taylor should start over Rodgers, Rob LOL
he will b traded bye the end of next year for 7th round pick hahahahah calib lovers go bagent
Caleb just doesn’t fit in Chicago!!!! Move on already…. Start Bagent!