Why did the War Continue for so Long? Clone Wars Stalemate

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @WizardsandWarriors
    @WizardsandWarriors  21 день назад +5

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    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 20 дней назад

      Because Palpatine is behind the scenes

    • @SkyGuy4991
      @SkyGuy4991 20 дней назад

      At the beginning of the video you said "Neither side saw it as their fault." That's actually true for the majority of wars and conflicts throughout our history. Most combatants never believe they're at fault for the conflict.

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 20 дней назад

      Title typo: *continue. ^^

  • @jiyuhong5853
    @jiyuhong5853 20 дней назад +201

    short answer: Palpatine
    long answer: Palpatine

    • @ncm6566
      @ncm6566 20 дней назад

      Right. Like maybe cause there was a single criminal mastermind controlling and feeding information to both sides very selectively.

    • @Reoh0z
      @Reoh0z 19 дней назад +4

      Yep, Palpatine leaked intel to whichever side whenever he saw the need to keep the meet grinder going.

    • @redterrorproductions1373
      @redterrorproductions1373 19 дней назад +3

      Long answer PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATIIIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @DanGould-h9x
      @DanGould-h9x 19 дней назад +2

      Wouldn't be a very interesting video lol

    • @Adam-326
      @Adam-326 19 дней назад +2

      Long answer : Supreme Chancellor Sheev Palpatine, of the Galactic Republic.

  • @rogersmith9535
    @rogersmith9535 20 дней назад +86

    Palpatine purposely dragged it out to weaken the Jedi as much as possible.

    • @Godzilla00X
      @Godzilla00X 20 дней назад +15

      It also let's him gain more power and exhaust the people so they welcome the empire bringing security

    • @Biggestkidyouknow
      @Biggestkidyouknow 20 дней назад +4

      @@Godzilla00Xit’s weird he was such a genius when over throwing the Republic but such an idiot when running the empire

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 19 дней назад +2

      @@Biggestkidyouknowduring the time of the republic palpatine had to work with the senate which forced him really be careful and be on his toes.
      It also gave him a pool of people to help run the nascent empire since there were clear goals to work towards.
      By the time of the empire in ANH he’s sidelined all of that and become sloppy.

    • @Biggestkidyouknow
      @Biggestkidyouknow 19 дней назад

      @ he spends most of his time pitting his Ranking officers against each other.

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 6 дней назад

      To weaken the Jedi was the main goal. But the secondary mission objectives were to create division between humans of the Core Worlds and the alien species and corporations that made up the separatists. The War was also to prime the Population and Bureaucracy while creating a military elite/culture.

  • @Bread-nx9fo
    @Bread-nx9fo 20 дней назад +63

    I think a main reason on why the war lasted so long is because the separatists were dug in the outer rim, where a lot of these inhospitable planets were, like Felucia and Jabiim. The Outer Rim sieges lasted till the final days of the war. Planets like Cato Neimoidia, Saleucami, Mygeeto, and Felucia were constantly changing hands.

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 20 дней назад +1

      It wasnt just the outer rim. They held territory even into the core worlds.
      They also held the naval advantage right up to the battle of Coruscant.

    • @papapalps2415
      @papapalps2415 19 дней назад +1

      ​@@theliato3809The CIS did not have the naval advantage by ROTS, no. They were very distinctly on the losing side by the 3rd year.

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 19 дней назад

      @ it was evening out by then but coruscant is where it descively changed

    • @papapalps2415
      @papapalps2415 19 дней назад +1

      @@theliato3809 It isn't, though. The CIS fleet that attacked Coruscant was ultimately an incredibly small percentage of the entire Navy, which, even at that point in the war, numbered in the millions. It was simply all the vessels Grevious could scrounge up from a single theater of the war that wouldn't be instanteously noticed. The battle wasn't important because of the damage it did in a physical sense. It was important because the CIS had been directly ordered to do so by Sidious/their true leader (with the rest of the leadership being led to believe it was a last throw of the dice, which in a way it was), which resulted in the Supreme Chancellor almost being kidnapped (which would, on paper, have resulted in the war going noticably differently), and because Dooku was killed.

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 19 дней назад +1

      @
      “Incredibly small percentage.”
      They mobilized nearly a third of their navy for the assault on coruscant. It was their cou de Grace that would have won the war if not for the whole sith ploting

  • @sirunklydunk8861
    @sirunklydunk8861 21 день назад +138

    Grievous seems like one of the Clone Wars characters most badly hurt by the Clone Wars show, as they just seemed to turn him into "The big name we use to have him job to the Republic."

    • @WizardsandWarriors
      @WizardsandWarriors  21 день назад +59

      I think there was not much to his "character", if that makes sense. More screen time basically killed the mystique.

    • @sirunklydunk8861
      @sirunklydunk8861 20 дней назад +6

      @@WizardsandWarriors yeah, that's a good point

    • @Zyzyx442
      @Zyzyx442 20 дней назад +4

      Watch the show bro, you will be surprised how wrong that statement is ;)

    • @Dragon359
      @Dragon359 20 дней назад +9

      It really is unfortunate, because Grievous had a lot of amazing potential as a character (and I like his 2001 clone wars iteration the most). In more ways than one, he got extremely shafted.

    • @Zyzyx442
      @Zyzyx442 20 дней назад +6

      @@WizardsandWarriors Could easily be fixed by having a Tales of the Empire episode show the lore of Grievous when was a Kaleesh Warlord fighting against the Republican backed Yam'rii.

  • @joshuawells835
    @joshuawells835 20 дней назад +34

    2:06- Gunray was captured on Rodia (which he briefly got to join the CIS) and Dooku was captured by Hondo's Pirate Crew and Vanqor. On Ryloth, it was Wat Tambor, Foreman of the Techno Union, that the Republic managed to capture. In addition, Poggle the Lesser was captured at the Second Battle of Geonosis.

    • @Bread-nx9fo
      @Bread-nx9fo 20 дней назад +1

      They all got traded for the guy that made the Death star at the end of the war

    • @joshuawells835
      @joshuawells835 20 дней назад +1

      @ the entire Separatist Council was killed by Darth Vader at the end of war.

    • @Bread-nx9fo
      @Bread-nx9fo 20 дней назад +2

      @@joshuawells835 Yeah I know, in Catalyst it explains why Poggle and Wat Tambor were able to be on Mustafar, because they got traded in a prisoner swap by the Republic.

  • @darthvader4338
    @darthvader4338 21 день назад +28

    Another happy episode

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 20 дней назад +20

    Most people kept praising General Grievous of the 2003 series more than the 2008 series despite the fact that one in 2003 series depicted him as nothing but a force to be reckoned with and nothing more.
    If people truly remembered the 2003 series, they would have remembered that Count Dooku instructed General Grievous that he needed fear, surprise and intimidation on his side along with his lightsabers in order to defeat the Jedi. And even if one element is lacking, the best course of action is to retreat. And General Grievous did just that in the 2008 series. He retreated when he knows when he cannot win against the Jedi.
    As for why the war is being dragged on for so long, the answer is because Palpatine wanted to have everything under his control and to make the peoples of the galaxy believed only he alone can fixed all of their problems. And it worked really well when such strategy reached its peak that is the Battle of Coruscant.
    Speaking of which, please bring in the quote from Revenge of the Sith's novelization about the Battle of Coruscant when the battle is featured on this channel. Please! Pretty please! I really love how the Battle of Coruscant was described in the novel!

    • @EmperorNapoleon1815
      @EmperorNapoleon1815 20 дней назад +3

      Grievous does invoke tactical retreats in the 2003 show, but he’s also shown as a competent warrior who shows no irrational cowardice or fear. He’s also shown to have a strategic and tactical brilliance akin (but not quite on par) with Thrawn. “Never have we been outmaneuvered by droids. His strategy is without flaw.” - Shaak Ti.
      The 2008 show is disappointing because it weakens the villains for the first few seasons to allow the heroes to triumph in each episode, appealing to a younger audience. Grievous gets the short end of the stick because he’s the main villain in the first several seasons, and even in his later appearances, they never really give him back the dread intelligence and warrior skill of 2003 or the Labyrinth of Evil novel. That’s why the TotE appearance he got, limited as it was, was so satisfying. Grievous is a much more compelling character when he is used to strike fear in the audience - a brilliant general and dauntless warrior, a broken shell of his proud former self, hellbent on vengeance and ruthless in his prosecution of the Jedi he finds so hypocritical and weak.

    • @jeambeam3173
      @jeambeam3173 17 дней назад

      Idk how the cannon works for this in either legends or cannon but it would make sense if 2003 Clone Wars where Previous gets his chest damaged by Windu was early Grevious which caused him to act more cautiously and cowardly which leads to 2008 Grevious

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 19 дней назад +3

    I've got two things to add to this topic of "capturing leadership." One, Hondo Ohnaka has got to be one of the best pirates in A Galaxy Far, Far Away, as during the Clone Wars, he managed to (at one point or another) capture Count Dooku, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, and Ahsoka Tano.
    Second, the Gungans on Naboo did manage to capture General Grievous with the loss of but one Gungan, General Tarpal, who had sacrificed himself in order to injure and disable the cyborg general which enabled the rest of the Gungan Army to overwhelm Grievous and restrain him. However, the capture of Grievous was not part of Darth Sidious' plan so he ordered Count Dooku to capture Anakin Skywalker, which Dooku did with relative ease. Dooku would then use Skywalker as a bargaining chip to trade for Grievous. This trade was not made with the Republic's knowledge, instead it was done in secret with Senator Padme Amidala which, essentially, makes her a traitor to the Republic and a hypocrite as she condemned Anakin for betraying the Republic in order to save her life, the same thing she had done to save his.

  • @austinshutts3214
    @austinshutts3214 20 дней назад +4

    You should cover some more of grievous ‘s victories in the war. He’s an intelligent leader, although flawed, is an excellent general and a great Jedi killer.

  • @TheOhioNews
    @TheOhioNews 20 дней назад +1

    Grievous Intrigue was my favorite episode as a kid. We'd watch it over and over ❤

  • @shadowlink99991
    @shadowlink99991 20 дней назад +8

    I’m sorry but as a long time Star Wars nerd, I can’t get over the mispronunciation of Saleucami. It’s Suh-Luke-A-My

  • @5o1stFilms
    @5o1stFilms 20 дней назад +2

    10:03 Should've mentioned the genius of Jesse here. "Where there's a farm, there's usually a farmer."

  • @Japrivy
    @Japrivy 20 дней назад +3

    Finally. Being fiending for more Star Wars content 😊

  • @chasechristophermurraydola9314
    @chasechristophermurraydola9314 20 дней назад

    I can’t wait to see you cover the events that happened at the citadel where the republic looses Jedi master even peel however they are able to rescue a man who played a major role in the opening stages of the rebellion against the empire and this man was future grand moff tarkin.

  • @flawliz802
    @flawliz802 20 дней назад +14

    The flag of the separatists is actually blue, while the republics one is red. The colours in the symbolism should technically be reversed. But ig the story telling with the colours along the with the colours of their blaster fire and the holograms, could explain the switched symbolic colours. But i am not sure if it makes sense for their banners on the map aswell. :/

    • @flawliz802
      @flawliz802 20 дней назад

      are we using irl symbolism in the video here where red would stand for socialism, communism and fascism, while blue would represent the western ideologies of liberalism and democracy? Ig this is how, poeple use the red colour to express hostility in story telling, visually.

  • @davidkinsey8657
    @davidkinsey8657 20 дней назад +2

    The war continued for so long because no one was supposed to win. Chancellor Palpatine was the leader of the Republic, and Darth Sidious was the secret leader of the Separatists. He was playing chess against himself, with the only goal being to extend the game.

  • @damonullerick6572
    @damonullerick6572 20 дней назад +3

    7:23: Why we only saw the light cruiser in this one episode was always beyond me. Even out-of-universe, the animators designed and modeled this brand-new asset they only ever used ONCE in this whole show? I know they were used more in Rebels, but still... it's weird.

    • @joshk96
      @joshk96 20 дней назад +3

      We see it in over a dozen episodes . . .

    • @joshk96
      @joshk96 20 дней назад +3

      Lamino, The attack on Obi-Wans fleet, Carida, Ringo Vinda, etc etc etc

    • @damonullerick6572
      @damonullerick6572 20 дней назад

      @@joshk96 Never mind me, then! '^^

    • @joshk96
      @joshk96 20 дней назад

      In one of the episodes when Ashoka is framed, 3 fly over the Republic Army HQ in formation ​@@damonullerick6572

  • @nvmtt
    @nvmtt 20 дней назад

    One of the novels (I think it was republic commando series) explain how the war dragged on for so long. A mandalorian sargeant complained that they have a small but well trained army. They should use it by driving a wedge through separatist space, straight to their core worlds. But instead Palpatine was spreading them thin all across the galaxy in an attempt to hold ground. In hindsight, we know palpatine did exactly that. He spread the war to as much of the galaxy as possible, so that when he took over, it would be a total takeover.

  • @wyatt8315
    @wyatt8315 20 дней назад +7

    This would have all been fixed if my glorious king Thrawn had made an early appearance

    • @BeyondDaX
      @BeyondDaX 20 дней назад +4

      The far edges of the galaxy were barely a concern for Palpatine during that time

  • @EmperorNapoleon1815
    @EmperorNapoleon1815 20 дней назад +1

    The modern SW canon has slandered my boy Grievous for far too long.
    That said, great content as always, W&W.

  • @thestanleys3657
    @thestanleys3657 20 дней назад +3

    It was dragged out because Palpatine wanted it to be

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 20 дней назад +5

    Clone wars (2008-2020) grievous < clone wars (2003) grievous

    • @BeyondDaX
      @BeyondDaX 20 дней назад +1

      To be fair either version would be wrecked by Kenobi.

    • @EmperorNapoleon1815
      @EmperorNapoleon1815 20 дней назад +1

      @@BeyondDaXWrecked is a strong word, but Kenobi was the Jedi most uniquely qualified to defeat him. Offense gets you nowhere against Grievous. Well, it does get you somewhere, but generally “skewered” is not a destination of choice. Grievous, in a brief confrontation with Windu in Labyrinth of Evil, causes him to disengage and retreat, aw he was thrown off balance by Grievous’s swift mimicry of Vaapad. In the RotS novelization, however, Kenobi’s patience and impenetrable defenses are developed more than in the film, and ultimately explain why he was the single greatest match for the droid general. In fact, I would go so far as to say that he was better suited for the task than even Yoda, which with studying all the available material is not an outlandish claim in the slightest.

  • @Gufupandi09th13
    @Gufupandi09th13 20 дней назад +1

    I feel like I'm in the star wars universe studying Clone war history as my grandfather fought at that time

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 20 дней назад +1

    Thanks For this! Love your content ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @davidmiddleton7958
    @davidmiddleton7958 19 дней назад

    I must admit, this posed a very difficult explanation. Obviously, in war, things get missed, so reversals were prevelant. Also, despite Palpatine's manipulations, not everything went his way. In both the senate and the battlefield, the chaos could not always be controled. Despite events, corruption in the senate and other institutions, caused mayhem in rear areas of the war.

  • @nidhoggryggdrasil2489
    @nidhoggryggdrasil2489 8 дней назад

    I have to agree with my colleagues. Grievous was done dirty by the clone wars cgi cartoon. And the third movie. He had the potential to be a terrifying character and they instead made him into, as another commenter said, a job. To be beaten and sell how cool Obiwan and Anakin were.
    The clone wars cgi show was fun but it suffered from being a kid show where the bad guys couldn't truly triumph at any point.
    There was never really any stakes.
    My favorite was the original clone wars cartoon/mini series. Even if its animation was a little cartoon network-y.
    When Grievous butchered the jedi and soloed the Ark troopers, THAT was intense.

  • @tommoolenaar3901
    @tommoolenaar3901 19 дней назад +1

    3 years for a galactic war seems pretty fast to me.

  • @stevelebreton3489
    @stevelebreton3489 20 дней назад +1

    Merci ❤

  • @EnzoVinZ
    @EnzoVinZ 20 дней назад

    The long war was necessary to place each pieces on the table where they needed to be. When Palpatin executed Order 66, each Jedi was vulnerable and were eliminated at the same time. He kept the war going for as long as it take until the final piece, Anakin, go to the dark side.

  • @Thechannelthatexistsforcontent
    @Thechannelthatexistsforcontent 20 дней назад +2

    8:38 wrong ship model bro

  • @johnlavette9471
    @johnlavette9471 20 дней назад +1

    Hey, love the channel! Do you plan on continuing the First Law series?

  • @jeffcordova9633
    @jeffcordova9633 20 дней назад

    Palpatine wanted absolute power & the more powers he was granted due to the war continuing he got more and more power … the war wasn’t even over when Moff Tarkin was in his position of power

  • @deathstroke2697
    @deathstroke2697 15 дней назад

    I hope you do The Inheritance Cycle in the future ❤

  • @Thechannelthatexistsforcontent
    @Thechannelthatexistsforcontent 18 дней назад

    Once your done with the clone wars do the Yuuzang Vong War

  • @tejmazwei
    @tejmazwei 20 дней назад +1

    Typo in the headdline

  • @pattonramming1988
    @pattonramming1988 20 дней назад +2

    Honestly the Republic spent too much time pursuing Grievous and Separatist leadership was primarily economic rather than political

  • @adamm2091
    @adamm2091 20 дней назад +6

    "Why did the war continued" grammatical mistake in title. Should be "continue".

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 20 дней назад

    You guys should make a star wars with series on what if the yuuzhan vong Started They're invasion At the last year of the clone wars
    That would be very good

  • @TheLordUrban
    @TheLordUrban 20 дней назад

    Alternate question, why were the Clone Wars so short?

  • @SamuelViana
    @SamuelViana 20 дней назад +1

    when you guys start talking the History of Dune ?

  • @garethmcguinness377
    @garethmcguinness377 20 дней назад +1

    Was it really that long, though? Maybe it's just cause I'm American, but the Clone Wars were only like three years according to canon
    We were in Afghanistan for 20 lmao

  • @mansm7968
    @mansm7968 20 дней назад

    Its so epic that such kind of content is coming from Azerbaijanisn

  • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
    @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd 20 дней назад

    Since you guys did Conan the Barbarian. How about you talk about Thurian age and Kull of Atlantis. Also maybe Barsoom as well

  • @Cbear-g7t
    @Cbear-g7t 20 дней назад

    I wish this series was based on the pre 2008 clone wars lore

  • @Jonas-hp3ht
    @Jonas-hp3ht 19 дней назад

    I mean 3 years seems really short for a galactic scale war honestly

  • @natheriver8910
    @natheriver8910 20 дней назад

    fascinating 🎉🎉🎉

  • @joshuasim9634
    @joshuasim9634 20 дней назад

    Technically the clone wars was one of the shortest wars in galactic history

  • @Narcoticfreebody
    @Narcoticfreebody 19 дней назад

    When when dark lords plot to make the ultimate Jedi killer only for the force to present the perfect defence against the ultimate Jedi killer, grievous maybe able to learn every lightsaber form but it means jack shit when your form is literally guided by the force.

  • @daepappy
    @daepappy 20 дней назад +3

    “why did the war continued" yall are starting to sound like the comments

  • @fabiofernandes9122
    @fabiofernandes9122 20 дней назад +2

    the war only lasted 3 years, it wasnt that long.

    • @TheJediJourney
      @TheJediJourney 20 дней назад

      The American civil war was 4 years and is still the bloodiest in American history. When thousands die each day in war time, a year can feel like a lifetime.

  • @lisboah
    @lisboah 20 дней назад +1

    Simple.
    Because Palpatine wanted all possible threats to be too weak to oppose his future empire.

  • @anlkaya
    @anlkaya 15 дней назад

    MORE 40K VİDEOS PLS

  • @berkeihlamur4160
    @berkeihlamur4160 20 дней назад

    It's not pronounced like /sælu:c/\mi/ it is /Səlucəmai/ 7:04 if I recall correct

  • @joshk96
    @joshk96 20 дней назад

    0:22 is a lot of Captains 😂, I know for the sake of the vodeo its just some battalion or legion with painted armor

  • @ChrisMcElroy-k9n
    @ChrisMcElroy-k9n 20 дней назад

    What about Jabiim

  • @ahobbitstail7022
    @ahobbitstail7022 20 дней назад

    Y'all gotta take the repeating laser sounds out, that shit is so awful in headphones

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 20 дней назад

    The answer is: the industrial military complex.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 20 дней назад +1

    👍🏻👍🏻

  • @frantictoast3741
    @frantictoast3741 20 дней назад

    Ah yes the Sool-la-kami system lol

  • @leponpon6935
    @leponpon6935 11 дней назад

    Wrong Republic symbol. You used the symbol for the Empire that came after.

  • @jamesdreads7828
    @jamesdreads7828 20 дней назад +1

    Typo in title, guys. Come on now

  • @simonhagstenn
    @simonhagstenn 20 дней назад

    Misspelled title

  • @jiv9673
    @jiv9673 13 дней назад

    Long? The war only lasted for 3 years. Considering the scale of the conflict that is pretty quick

  • @sircrimsonwolf7492
    @sircrimsonwolf7492 18 дней назад

    Honestly wars can last for a very long time something, Russia is proving with their overwhelmingly stupid levels of stubbornness just picture how long a galactic scale war could last which could potential last for centuries, at least on top of numerous other factions that could just instigate the war to last even longer Potentially propelling it to last for over 1000 years because it would be a big galaxy lots of vast space in all directions, technological and strategical opportunities they could really make such a nightmare last for a very long time possibly without end.
    And that’s on top of numerous civilizations, species, cultures, religions, factions, It’s curious how the clone war or the Galactic Civil War even had a conclusion, considering the vast population of the galaxy and all of the armed factions that would attempt to capitalize on the chaos and obtain as much power and influence as possible. Something that people forget is that this isn’t a universe where everything takes place on a single planet, where people are more afraid of wiping out their own species from a single skirmish on a planet. This is a galaxy with a much much higher population than anything we’re familiar with.
    Considering this on a much larger scope, there could be chances that such wars could last indefinitely simply because the government leaders refuse to give in or at least want to capitalize on the war and try to make it into a profit or a way of life in order to cement their influence or power over their faction/government And use fear or propaganda to control the civilians.
    Reply with what some of your thoughts may be if you agree or disagree

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 20 дней назад

    It lasted for 4 years That's not long 20 or 30 years is long

  • @Zyzyx442
    @Zyzyx442 20 дней назад +1

    Thanks for bringing SW lore into life with this great series on the Clone Wars and other Star Wars Lore. Really grateful we got Clone Wars by Filoni, the last episodes when watched in chronological order is awesome. Bad Batch is also a great show that really brings the pax imperial order how it worked, the imperial senate under Palpatine, the gradual influence of Governors and Admirals taking over senatorial duties. Recommend anyone to watch Clone Wars, Tales of the Jedi/Empire, Bad Batch, Andor, Rebels and Ahsoka in chronological order, its awesome and really shows why Star Wars is great. Filoni loves Star Wars EU bringing in Thrawn and many things from the KOTOR Games. Very sad shows like the Acolyte ruin the brand creating countless ragebait videos on YT that makes people think all SW is bad.

  • @Thurnmourer
    @Thurnmourer 6 дней назад

    3 years is long? Pfft.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 20 дней назад

    Hmm 🤔

  • @adelkheir
    @adelkheir 5 дней назад

    Real answer: Because George Lucas, and later Disney, wanted to milk the animated series for as long as possible and pumped out 8 seasons.

  • @wilhelm992
    @wilhelm992 20 дней назад

    Ngl not the best video guys. Gl and keep it up!

  • @iKvetch558
    @iKvetch558 20 дней назад +2

    Seems odd to leave Alderaan off of the map...it did still exist at this time, after all.😢👎

  • @ThomasSpettel
    @ThomasSpettel 20 дней назад

    Twas rigged from the start. Muahaha

  • @Kalleosini
    @Kalleosini 20 дней назад

    is this video a joke?
    it only lasted 3 years.
    the guy who started the war controlled both sides, which means it would last however long he wanted it to.
    also your title can't be grammatically correct.