History of WWI Primer 031: Italian Carcano Carbines Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Cartridge: 6.5x52mm
Capacity: 6 rnds
Length: 36.25"
weight: 6.9 lbs
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The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle
A Detailed Developmental & Production History
Giovanni Chegia & Alberto Simonelli with Ralph Riccio
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Italy's Battle Rifle
Russ Arendell and Steve Woodrum
Il Novantuno Mannlicher-Carcano Das italienische Waffensystem Modell 1891
Wolfgang Riepe
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Watching the show from the beginning is pretty sweet
Great video
Im not even a gun fan and I find these vids fascinating
Great info..
So what I get from this WW1 series is that:
- 6.5mm good
- larger calibers bad
To be fair , 6.5 seems to be the Goldilocks diameter for both full power and intermediate cartridges for its high accuracy, low recoil affects while still having enough “ stopping power” similar to a 7.62 diameter cartridge. Of course , none of that mattered for the Italians since they never switched to spitzer bullets, reducing a lot of the positive effects of a light 6.5 cartridge while not getting any of the power of a 30 cal bullet.
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 man you have the most polish last name i ever encounter in my lifetime.
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszykiewic3338 Jesus christ, its Brzeczyszykiewic
I'm proud of you both. You did this whole Carcano series together without once mentioning Lee Harvey Oswald.
No need until the M38
A lot of younger people don't have a clue who Lee Harvey Oswald is nor what he did to become notorious.
@sman7290 I've had people tell me the damdest things trying to make a sale. One guy had a p38 which I'd have liked to have bought but this jerk told me that the small chips you could see in the grips where the bones of Jews that had died in concentration camps. While logic told me he was full of bleep and it was more likely to be wood chips used as filler what I told him was I didn't want the bleeping thing in my house. I don't think that was the reaction he wanted. 😂🤣😂🤣😉🤢
sman7290 I bought a 91/28 Carcano last year for $200 at a gun show, after he sold it to me the guy asking “Are you gonna be hunting any Kennedys?”
@@dwightehowell8179 Says you.
Great supplement to the long rifle! I enjoy these "multi-part" or "family" oriented series... Family oriented..... that didn't come out right...
sounds right to me.
@@Candrsenal i have a ts carbine with a beat up stock and handgaurd, to replace them to make the gun functional could i replace the damaged original with a 91 calvery carbine stock? Or even a m38 stock and handgaurd. Love the show and keep on truckin forward with it.
High praise indeed when it is from BML
Damn ! nobody going to give any mention of Mae? Beautiful!
"...and 360 no scope like no-one's business."
I laughed out loud, and laughed at the thought of the rampant tea-bagging that would follow a trench raid.
Lefty is Earl and righty is Grey
Keep it up
Unloved? That makes me sad. These are awesome!
I'm sure the fact that Italy is basically a long strip of annoyingly rugged, hilly, even mountainous land had something to do with the ambivalence towards cavalry and a reliance on highly mobile infantry. EDIT....months later: The Bersaglieri are badasses. The feathers look a little 'dandy' at first but somehow on modern kit they actually look pretty cool. Wonder what the Afghans thought about the Italian plumage walkin' down the roads a handful of years ago.
yes my uncle was a bersagliere in ww ii in albania...shot a few and he was a badass!!
@@louispisani7110 I'd love to hear more!
Sounds like Jackson's 'foot cavalry' in the Shenandoah campaign. They tied up something like three divisions, so they were pretty bad ass.
Nice rifle 👍
My father was in an Italian armor unit before and during WW2. The Carcano carbine was issued to them as a tankers rifle. I have photos of Dad with his Carcano and CV33 light scout tank.
The M91 TS was made in a larger number was because of the constant fights the Italians had on the Isonzo front. The weather there was horrendous and when the winter arrives, they found that those that did not have gloves were finding the bayonets to be more of a nuisance as when they accidentally touch it, some of their men's skin would stick on it thus they decided to issue more M91 TS there. Soon, with the constant attacks on the Austrians on the steep slopes, the TS does seem as a better choice.
Makes sense
After the photo of the bicycle cavalry, I'm picturing a variation on the Bill Mauldin cartoon with the tearful cavalry sergeant about to shoot his disabled Jeep, except it's one of these guys with a busted front fork, getting ready to put his bike out of its misery.
As italian Gun owner and gun reviewer on RUclips i have to say that you have done a great and beautiful job with this video Guys!! =D
Keep going just like that!! =D =D
No u
I got one of these just in time for all of the 6.5x52 ammo on the market to dry up
I just bought one. Mine has Beretta marking on it.
Awww...Italy...the beautiful weather, food, women, and Cacano rifes...Love it ALL!!!
Credit to the Isonzo game for making me aware of these guns in the first place
I love my little M38
''hi, I'm Othias''
prove it.
Well j mean he does have a beard and THE hat...
Oh yeah? Then who was that guy who tried to pass as Othias a few weeks back? He had the beard and the hat too. (yes, someone noticed. I wasn't born yesterday, you know. I had to watch the vid several times to see it, though.)
you realize that was mae right. . .
AKA "Beardy"
I got one of those carbines haven’t fired it because I haven’t had time to clean it up first, I have another one a m91 TS, but that one runs like a Swiss clock except for the fact that last round just does NOT want to chamber without assistance, it tries to stick itself straight up in the sky, which means you have to push it down with a finger while trying to rack the round into the chamber but all in all a great rifle.
need to make an obrez out of this.
Just purchased one from JG for $199. Impulse purchase? Yes. Do I need it? Yes.
its easier to work the bolt
if you put the pad of your thumb
on the opposite (left) side
of the split receiver
I just got a fna product of the m91/24 with a push button fixed bayonet
9:29 The shell casing flying by the camera.... That was cool.
Right. Hollywood needs to set up shots like that more often, ha.
Please do a video on the m38 short rifle in the excellent 7.35 caliber.
18:12 This is why I like the Kar98AZ so much. Down-turned bolt handle that's shaved off on the inside AS WELL as a notch cutout in the wood. It's incredibly easy to operate
Certainly gives more room.
C&Rsenal And it's knurled too, which aids in grip.
More Mae! MORE MAE!
MOAR!
i think the crosslock on the bayonet was to adress an issue of it unlocking and dropping free under recoil
It was the Italian Krinkov of 1901!
I think the TS is way cuter, because it's definitely a mini-Carcano. I will say I saw an M1891 Carbine in a gun shop the other day and had the exact same safety issue moving the bolt that Mae keeps talking about, which amused me to no end.
It's... annoying.
16:33 360 no scope like nobody's business, I laughed very hard!
Super important skill
...If I make videos about BF1's weapons, could I use this line in a video somewhere? If ONLY they have short barreled carbines in the game.
That line just shows why this channel is in the God-tier of gun channels.
Zach Meynarez h
the shooter was stunning, and a great shooter!
There's a saying in my country, "Avanti Bersaglieri por la bataglia nostra", i always thought "Bersaglieri" meant brother or friend or something like that. I cant belive it took me this long to find out a "Bersaglieri" was a type of italian soldier
What does the rest mean?
It's "Avanti Bersaglieri, che la vittoria è nostra!" ("Let's go Bersaglieri, that the victory is ours!). Its a phrase of Garibaldi, however, for some reason, despite being in Italian, is much more known in the spanish speaking countries than in italy.
he studies Italian
I've shot a carcano carbine today. It's light, handy and very soft recoil. I liked it !
Still the best
The Carcano?
+C&Rsenal that I don't know.. You guys, yes
gotta get one of these now....love the muzzle flash
I'd take that carbine into battle. Super cool. Along w/ my beretta m1934 pistol as a side arm.
imho the coolest looking rifle of ww1 and ww2
I have a brescia carcano rifle, 1918, I was wanting some help with the numbers on the barrel.
All numbers match throughout and I was wondering if you had any additional info about it.
Yes, the 'truppe speciali ' thing can be funny. When I tell anglos that I did my service in the special troops in Italy I have to hurry to explain that I wasn't some kind of SAS vet (or a liar about my service...😀)
Cool carbines I like the full stock version but that T shaped bayonet is a man killer the T shaped creates a wound that is harder to stop outflow from the wound weather it be blood or air from a lung lunge. Also the shape of the bayonet is less likely to snag on things like rib cages. This is the same shape bayonet that the British 2nd model and third model Brown Bess used.
I'm just imagining a guy on a bike using a full length carcano for jousting
I think you mean a Vespa
16:40 - Mae pantomiming Othias jabbering is priceless! All future episodes should Ave a loop of this close captioned during all of Othias’s narratives😹!
This video taught me a lot, but the most important detail was how to work the safety lmao. Thought mine was broken
They ARE adorable and very handy. I have shot the folding bayonet version, and the full stocked version looks like it offers ergonomic advantages. However, Mar has shot both and I will go with her opinion. Glad to see a reliable, simple rifle get a fair shake for once.
Very nice thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
unloved?! i love the carcano carbines! why i watched this video. and i loved it, you have an awesome gun collection and make a fantastic video!. subbing. keep up the work, cant wait to see when you get to ww2. Carcano carbines get too much hate.
Glad you enjoyed it!
NeuKrofta I my opinion the Carcano Carbine is the true carcano, it's better than the full sized version, I have one and it is amazing
I love my 91/24, ammo so expensive though.
@@arthurbradshaw7035 want to buy some 6.5?
What about the gain twist rifling not stableizing the bullets with the cut down versions?
I live my carcanos!! I own 12 ans still counting! These rifles and carbines are so fun to shoot and so simple.
I just bought a Carcano carbine, thanks in part to you guys
Had to pause and rewind to make sure I actually heard Othias say "360 no scope"
Good job dude. First couple couple videos of yours i watched i thought they were too long winded. Then i figured out your gig. Love your stuff now. Really appreciate the history lesson. Keep up the good work.
I'm glad we converted you into willful boredom!
Bought one, hard to find ammo, but my oldest son agreed, its a great shooter. Solved the bolt sticky issue, polished all the surfaces and very light Kroil oil oiling (thanks Mark!). Found grooves and flats had too much friction.
These are still dirt cheap I really need to jump on one before it goes up.
I like the Carcanos. I have a 91, calvery carbine and a 38.. I agree with May and like the carbine the best. Fun to shoot.
Yus!
Very nice 👍
I'm military sniper from Sardinia and no more people know all these history facts .
Thank's
I just ordered one of the Carcano M91/24 carbines yesterday from Bud's guns, hopefully I get a good one.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA more Mae and her smiles
very interesting. a heartfelt thank you to you all, from the bayou in Kent, England.
Glad you enjoyed it!
liked the bang curls in the shooting segment, Mae... humid day, lol?
It's Charleston
i'm gonna go out on a limb and take that as a "yes", lol.
Muggy heat makes my curls come out.
Excellent video as always, keep up the good work! My knowledge of Carcano rifles is quite limited and I have learned a lot from you guys.
Thanks
You did an excellent all inclusive video and Mae is a real cutie...I like her enthused smile.
Does Beardy ever get to fire or just Mae?
Great video guys! Informational and fun. Keep it up!
Sorry, Othias, but I watch these videos just to enjoy Mae's smile after each shot!
Very good two part series on the Carcano. I've been reading up on the various iterations lately. These rifles got an unfair bad reputation through the years.
9:59 Annie Oakley step aside, almost 1moa standing unsupported! Incredible shooting Ma'am.
Congratulations, you've convinced me to give one a shot (literally)
it's not often I can actually afford or even find the rifles you talk about in this series but Royal Tiger imports has those 1891 Carcano carbines for only $140 right now
Awesome review and thanks for mentioning the Bersaglieri.
I adore how compact this thing is.
Compliments, i am Italian , you know very well the italian Hystory, Best regards
This is an old post but I have one that has the lever on the front and unfortunately to me it is obviously a parade gun because it's been completely chromed
I just bought one with the pinch type built in 1935 by Gardone Valtrompia. Is that fairly rare?
Trying to understand my gun.. it has the lever lock bayonet but the numbers 1935 carved in and some roman numerals
The more I learn about carcanos the more I like them.
If you were to attempt to rebore this rifle what ammo could you do?
please look the second picture on the right
This is the Corazieri version only 100 were produced for the Italian Corazzieri corp.
www.carabinieri.it/arma/ieri/equipaggiamento-e-materiali/1861-1907/le-armi/le-armi-per-la-difesa-dell'unit%C3%A0-d'italia-moschetto-mod-1891
Just watched this video and think you guys did a very awesome job. Very impressed with your info and format.
glorious ping is music to my ears
Did they use the cavalry carcano m91 on troops that just run fast ? Like a soldier carring less stuff but can run faster ? Is that it ?
Very impressive your knowledge and presentation was top shelf!
been watching since the beginning and you guys keep getting better... never change gun nerds... never change, love you guys!
u no it
Truly the best rifle of the war. Only one with the ability of making rapid successive shots from aposing directions as demonstrated in 1963 by *THIS PORTION OF THE POST HAS BEEN REMOVED BY CIA GANG*
Thank you both for another top notch video. You two really are awesome.
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it and us!!
Finally caught up on all 31 episodes. As a fairly new collector of military surplus rifles and handguns, I am REALLY enjoying this series. Thanks for all the effort on a quality product!
Glad to hear it! I hope the improvements show
Pls help. Got a 8mm mauser chambered 38 carcano carbine that needs a clip.
16:16 The 360 no-scope moment
So any chanse of geting the Mae "girling" out part as a clip, it was fun.
which what?
The part where mae say that the carbin how cute the carbin is.
What ammunition were you using?
It's Càrcano. accented on the FIRST A, not on the second!
I think you should sell Othais disguises along with the shirts. I would be on that like white on rice in a glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm.
oh good, 900 videos of "Othaises"
It's how the Clone Wars begins
Love the series. Keep it up
Thanks!
Hey idk if you guys see commend but for the second rifle you show the close up to the m91 ts. Not the Calvary one . How many inches long is that cleaning rod?
I purchased a 1935 FNA Brescia manufactured Moschetto that somehow avoided British or American test proofing before it made its way to me in Canada. The stock and hand guard serial numbers don’t match but they’re written in pencil inside which is really cool. The hand guard appears to be much taller than the factory hand guard and the slot where the rear sight folds down into is crudely hand hand carved out. It is a fascinating piece of history and I wish I could find out where it found itself upon Italian army acceptance.
When Mae, in 2016, mentions that the US M1 Carbine will be about a year away, queue the TikTok song, "Oh no. Oh no. Oh no no no no no".