It's quite wierd because in 4K, my M1 Max 16" can reach 45 to 50 fps on Max settings with MetalFX Quality, just as your M3 Max. So I guess your Macbook was throttling. I have to turn on high power mode even with the 16-inch to prevant throttling. It can reach 87W~95W(power from wall) but with auto mode, it ends up staying under 70W.
It looks that he tested this with battery and didn’t turn on the high performance mode. It was also tested with recording. In a more general test, 14 inch 30core m3 max with max graphics 1440p and high performance mode can reach 60fps under the same scene. I think this video is some kind of misleading.
I agree, high power mode is great for gaming if you have a max chip. I have it on the 'high power when plugged in' setting. It kicks in the fans earlier to maintain temps, and on a mbp, the fans don't sound very loud unless at full blast.
I think what would benefit greatly right now is for Apple to improve Metal FX. I think this year Metal FX 2.0 ought to be a priority because that could do wonders for both current and future hardware. It might not feel like it's there yet, but it will get to a point where playing these games on Apple Hardware will feel rather nice. I'm definitelty looking to upgrade to an M2 iPad Air when it does happen.
It would be really great if the experimental variation was standardized. The experimental setup (hardware requirements) should be compared systemically in a 3x3 matrix (e.g. laptop - M1 Pro - 1080p) with the same device types (macbook, mini, imac). then a graph should be created with (x) watts and (y) FPS.
On my 16" with binned M3 Max, outputting to 4k OLED TV with VRR + HDR, I can get stable 60fps at most areas with MetalFX Quality on, all settings maxed at 2160p V-sync on. I don't keep the Metal HUD on at all times since it is distracting to my gameplay so I don't know how much is dropped during the water room you showed in your video, but visually I did not see a drop enough to be noticed or impact my aiming and movement. So you may be right that the thermal difference between the 14" and 16" may be a large factor as my binned M3 Max is supposed to perform worse than your full M3 Max, especially with their 30 vs 40 GPU cores. With how this game (the RE engine) renders, I have to see the best graphics settings approach is to use as high res as possible so the hair anti-aliasing is not visibly jarring, then tweak the MetalFX and V-sync etc to force more fps until you find the quality unacceptable.
Interesting spread of machines. I think a lot of folks would be interested in the M1 Pro / Max performance as well, as these machines sold very well. I have an M1 Max 16"/32GB MBP and play at Max Settings, 1200p and 60fps. I have MetalFX in Quality mode for dynamic scaling in any tricky parts and have never seen any frame drops or drop in quality. In fact all the games I play regularly I set this target: 1200p, 60fps, Max Settings. Lies of P, Grid Legends, RE4 and RE Village all work great on this 2 year old machine. I could probably raise the resolution or drop MetalFX altogether with little impact, but the machine gets warmer for sure. Don't be so hard on the base M1/M2 machines. If you think about the kind of settings a 2 year old Window PC with Intel Graphics could play on, it would be much worse, especially on battery power. I think they do quite well, although 8GB base models were, and still are, a mistake IMO.
These games seem like a combination of 2 things: -The newer chipset's overall performance -Capcom's engine being very optimized (heck the remakes, RE7 and 8 were already pretty impressive on dated hardware like the PS4) I am definitely getting the REmake4 on my Mac this time
Interesting choice to wear the iPod nano as a watch! Anyway, I have been playing it on M1 base MBP, and I will see if Vysnc off helps, otherwise what I noticed at least is before the castle, it runs fine in the recommended, 60FPS, MetalFX Quality, with some noticeable frame drops towards the end but as soon as you get in the damn castle it goes to shit. In fact, I could restart my computer, have nothing else running, and the game will crash quite a bit until I set it to Performance. This is kind of disappointing and I don't think it is actually because of the castle itself but it feels alsmost as if though they stopped trying to optimize the game for Mac after the village area. I don't know if this is because this is a multiple platform title compared to REVIII for Mac, but it is a little disappointing. This is also actually the first time I have ever played all the way through RE4 ever funny enough, even though I've played through all other RE titles multiple times from PS1 up to today's hardware, and I guess the only main line title I haven't played through is RE6 now. Still it's a pretty fun game and it kicks ass going through it a second, third time just so you can wreck everybody!
Was this downloaded from the App Store or is it from somewhere else? Just wondering if any version will run this well even if it needs some emulation? Thanks!
@@Wayne-sn6qy yup that’s awesome, if they keep doing good ports and native metal base games for Mac will be viable for gaming and working. I wish they do something like the steam deck. Where you have steam os and have proton. Something like that to be implemented in steam. So you have to do everything from there and don’t need to depend on other softwares you need to buy.
Ik its overly negative, but I just can't see the appeal of this even if I owned a mac (few family members do, so I could buy it to play on that but eh,) if you can afford a mac I'd say you can afford better options, It's nice to have options but this performance on a laptop of that price is horrible. I remember I think it was the M1 or M2 chip? anyway they stated it was just as fast as a 3080/3090 if not faster? Maybe in edting/cpu heavy workloads for video rendering? The one thing I know it's good at is power efficiency so there's that
Performance is kinda disappointing. Village on my 14" M2 Max MBP, with everything cranked up to 11, at 4k (MetalFX Quality) stays between 60 and 70 FPS. The fans go nuts, though. 🤣 Looking Forward to the Grid Legends review, I was thinking of giving that a go actually, as I enjoyed it on PS. Cheers mate. Edit: Fixed stuff
I am playing on M1 pro (16gb) Ventura 13.5 but my game is always Freezing screen but playable apparently) during the chapter 2 - the village. Does anyone have this same issue?
Hello! I'm thinking of purchasing the full game, unfortunately I missed the sale on it via macstore and was thinking of purchasing through Steam. Do you know if it works? I've never used steam and want to make sure it works before I purchase anything.
Suggestion: please make sure these results are tested with NO THROTTLING when you compare the chips otherwise the video will be misleading. For example, M1 in 13 MacBook Pro should have no throttling issue but M2 in MacBook Air should have the issue, as well as M3/ M3 Max. So the results will look weird as some comments mentioned.
I have a Mac mini M2 8 GB RAM / 512 GB SSD and play with mostly balanced settings. There is an area in the castle (where you first get outside to the fountain, next to the labyrinth) and the performance TANKS HARD, I'm talking single digits here. It's just a small area but it is consistent, not a single playthrough thing. Everytime I come back to this place, I need to get ready for the slideshow. Otherwise, I get consistently 20-30 FPS and I find it acceptable. Wondering if anyone else is having this issue.
This sound tremendously ridiculous taking in count my basic pc can run this game in 4k with RT and I am getting more than 220 fps... In my windows computer... Mac always sucks... 30 fps with the m1... 1080p apple is just bringing the same technology with higher prices and a new number in the model in the core is the same shit as always... I'll never forget my experience with that OS that works horrible...
@@ItsIcedDonut that's the future of video games kid.... dlss afmf you can say whatever kid... I can do it... Use the processor of a cell phone for a desktop is stupid... How many copies have they sold of Resident Evil 4 remake???... 8k... Is stupid apple is not innovative or technologically superior to anything... Pure garbage... When even Intel has their own frame generation technology Nvidia AMD the only company who is not able to do something like that is apple...
@@ItsIcedDonut Nvidia AMD Intel every company is working on it... Why apple isn't???... Oh they don't have the technology... False FPS when ps5 Xbox and PC are using it... Accept it apple sucks on gaming... They are a company without leadership without innovation... Their success died with Steve Jobs... 8k copies sold of this game on iOS... What a waste of resources...
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Honestly, I'm very impressed by the base M1 performance
It's very still great ❤
if you have the Macbook Pro M1 with 16GB Ram you will get 9 to 17fps more than 8gb Macs on 1080P Prioritized Performance.
I have a base Mac M1 and I was also impressed by the performance when I play this game. I was expecting it to be unplayable.
Are there any mods yet?
@@almghollhmmmm are sure only 9 to 17 fps?…thats horrible
the intro of you being startled awake is amazing. really fantastic video. such a lovely, polished game.
It's quite wierd because in 4K, my M1 Max 16" can reach 45 to 50 fps on Max settings with MetalFX Quality, just as your M3 Max. So I guess your Macbook was throttling.
I have to turn on high power mode even with the 16-inch to prevant throttling.
It can reach 87W~95W(power from wall) but with auto mode, it ends up staying under 70W.
It looks that he tested this with battery and didn’t turn on the high performance mode. It was also tested with recording. In a more general test, 14 inch 30core m3 max with max graphics 1440p and high performance mode can reach 60fps under the same scene. I think this video is some kind of misleading.
I agree, high power mode is great for gaming if you have a max chip. I have it on the 'high power when plugged in' setting. It kicks in the fans earlier to maintain temps, and on a mbp, the fans don't sound very loud unless at full blast.
I think what would benefit greatly right now is for Apple to improve Metal FX. I think this year Metal FX 2.0 ought to be a priority because that could do wonders for both current and future hardware.
It might not feel like it's there yet, but it will get to a point where playing these games on Apple Hardware will feel rather nice. I'm definitelty looking to upgrade to an M2 iPad Air when it does happen.
It would be really great if the experimental variation was standardized. The experimental setup (hardware requirements) should be compared systemically in a 3x3 matrix (e.g. laptop - M1 Pro - 1080p) with the same device types (macbook, mini, imac). then a graph should be created with (x) watts and (y) FPS.
On my 16" with binned M3 Max, outputting to 4k OLED TV with VRR + HDR, I can get stable 60fps at most areas with MetalFX Quality on, all settings maxed at 2160p V-sync on. I don't keep the Metal HUD on at all times since it is distracting to my gameplay so I don't know how much is dropped during the water room you showed in your video, but visually I did not see a drop enough to be noticed or impact my aiming and movement. So you may be right that the thermal difference between the 14" and 16" may be a large factor as my binned M3 Max is supposed to perform worse than your full M3 Max, especially with their 30 vs 40 GPU cores.
With how this game (the RE engine) renders, I have to see the best graphics settings approach is to use as high res as possible so the hair anti-aliasing is not visibly jarring, then tweak the MetalFX and V-sync etc to force more fps until you find the quality unacceptable.
Interesting spread of machines. I think a lot of folks would be interested in the M1 Pro / Max performance as well, as these machines sold very well. I have an M1 Max 16"/32GB MBP and play at Max Settings, 1200p and 60fps. I have MetalFX in Quality mode for dynamic scaling in any tricky parts and have never seen any frame drops or drop in quality. In fact all the games I play regularly I set this target: 1200p, 60fps, Max Settings. Lies of P, Grid Legends, RE4 and RE Village all work great on this 2 year old machine. I could probably raise the resolution or drop MetalFX altogether with little impact, but the machine gets warmer for sure. Don't be so hard on the base M1/M2 machines. If you think about the kind of settings a 2 year old Window PC with Intel Graphics could play on, it would be much worse, especially on battery power. I think they do quite well, although 8GB base models were, and still are, a mistake IMO.
Base M1 was dope
the M1 Chip is like 3 year ago, but its good on my Macbook Pro Base M1 on medium Graphics 1080P "Native" the FPS like 41 to 54Fps
These games seem like a combination of 2 things:
-The newer chipset's overall performance
-Capcom's engine being very optimized (heck the remakes, RE7 and 8 were already pretty impressive on dated hardware like the PS4)
I am definitely getting the REmake4 on my Mac this time
Interesting choice to wear the iPod nano as a watch! Anyway, I have been playing it on M1 base MBP, and I will see if Vysnc off helps, otherwise what I noticed at least is before the castle, it runs fine in the recommended, 60FPS, MetalFX Quality, with some noticeable frame drops towards the end but as soon as you get in the damn castle it goes to shit.
In fact, I could restart my computer, have nothing else running, and the game will crash quite a bit until I set it to Performance. This is kind of disappointing and I don't think it is actually because of the castle itself but it feels alsmost as if though they stopped trying to optimize the game for Mac after the village area. I don't know if this is because this is a multiple platform title compared to REVIII for Mac, but it is a little disappointing.
This is also actually the first time I have ever played all the way through RE4 ever funny enough, even though I've played through all other RE titles multiple times from PS1 up to today's hardware, and I guess the only main line title I haven't played through is RE6 now. Still it's a pretty fun game and it kicks ass going through it a second, third time just so you can wreck everybody!
Was this downloaded from the App Store or is it from somewhere else? Just wondering if any version will run this well even if it needs some emulation? Thanks!
Would love to know if it runs well on an M1 Max, 64gb ram. That’s what my 14” MBP is
I think your Mac should eat this game easily
My M1 max 16" is able to maintain 70 to 80 fps in 1440p on Max graphics with MetalFX on quality.
@@Wayne-sn6qy thanks Wayne!
@@Wayne-sn6qy yup that’s awesome, if they keep doing good ports and native metal base games for Mac will be viable for gaming and working. I wish they do something like the steam deck. Where you have steam os and have proton. Something like that to be implemented in steam. So you have to do everything from there and don’t need to depend on other softwares you need to buy.
@@TheNewGamePlussI think crossover works well for the time being
Amazing video brother!
Keep the great work!
On my m1 16 inch MacBook , it gave me 60 with the same setting, with vsync on 80 fps basic model
I play re4 remake in my 24” m1 imac on 1080p,(cutscenes 4k) metal fx quality and i easily get around 45 fps
8 or 16gb Ram?
did you try this on m3 pro?
On the base M1 I get many stutters, is that unusual or okay?
Very normal. M1 isn't powerful
@@MrMacRight Good to know!
Thank you for this awesome video!
what about M1 Pro performance
Ik its overly negative, but I just can't see the appeal of this even if I owned a mac (few family members do, so I could buy it to play on that but eh,) if you can afford a mac I'd say you can afford better options, It's nice to have options but this performance on a laptop of that price is horrible. I remember I think it was the M1 or M2 chip? anyway they stated it was just as fast as a 3080/3090 if not faster? Maybe in edting/cpu heavy workloads for video rendering? The one thing I know it's good at is power efficiency so there's that
Performance is kinda disappointing. Village on my 14" M2 Max MBP, with everything cranked up to 11, at 4k (MetalFX Quality) stays between 60 and 70 FPS. The fans go nuts, though. 🤣
Looking Forward to the Grid Legends review, I was thinking of giving that a go actually, as I enjoyed it on PS.
Cheers mate.
Edit: Fixed stuff
why dafaq is m1 outperforming m2 chip??? what kind of madness is this
I am playing on M1 pro (16gb) Ventura 13.5 but my game is always Freezing screen but playable apparently) during the chapter 2 - the village.
Does anyone have this same issue?
Update to Sonoma
Yes, I had exactly the same problem with hanging in one place in the village on the MBR14Pro M2Max, which was solved only by installing Sonoma.
@@ДмитрийЛебедев-з4о thank you so so much
Given this game is free to download and try, I think everyone should give it a shot. Best free tech demo for your computer that you can get.
Hello! I'm thinking of purchasing the full game, unfortunately I missed the sale on it via macstore and was thinking of purchasing through Steam. Do you know if it works? I've never used steam and want to make sure it works before I purchase anything.
@@bbgbbg84 RE4 on Steam is Windows-only. For now, the Mac App Store is the only option.
@@bbgbbg84Quite late of a reply but it doesn't unfortunately.
Hello, where can I find the cracked version?
In my opinion performances are incredible.
Suggestion: please make sure these results are tested with NO THROTTLING when you compare the chips otherwise the video will be misleading. For example, M1 in 13 MacBook Pro should have no throttling issue but M2 in MacBook Air should have the issue, as well as M3/ M3 Max. So the results will look weird as some comments mentioned.
I have a Mac mini M2 8 GB RAM / 512 GB SSD and play with mostly balanced settings. There is an area in the castle (where you first get outside to the fountain, next to the labyrinth) and the performance TANKS HARD, I'm talking single digits here. It's just a small area but it is consistent, not a single playthrough thing. Everytime I come back to this place, I need to get ready for the slideshow. Otherwise, I get consistently 20-30 FPS and I find it acceptable. Wondering if anyone else is having this issue.
Thanks for the great video! Not too many people are making mac gaming performance comparisons. Look forward to your next video
In the Air it runs ok but i wanted to see how it performs on a pro :)
hmmm my 16" macbook pro m1 plays it at 1600p smoothly at Med to high settings
The m1 pro 16gpu is enough to play 1440p max settings with 40-60 fps
Runs great on my 16 inch M2 Max with 32 GB unified memory
I’m enjoying the game on my m1 air base model!
Me and my m1 Mac mini are over here 😭😭😭
Do I need a controller ?
It's amazing that is laptops can do PS4 quality gaming
better than Ps4 for me
This sound tremendously ridiculous taking in count my basic pc can run this game in 4k with RT and I am getting more than 220 fps... In my windows computer... Mac always sucks... 30 fps with the m1... 1080p apple is just bringing the same technology with higher prices and a new number in the model in the core is the same shit as always... I'll never forget my experience with that OS that works horrible...
You cant even get 220fps on 4k with an rtx 4090
@@ItsIcedDonut Losseless scaling kid...
@@killswitch9376 thats generating false frames, it isnt *true* fps
@@ItsIcedDonut that's the future of video games kid.... dlss afmf you can say whatever kid... I can do it... Use the processor of a cell phone for a desktop is stupid... How many copies have they sold of Resident Evil 4 remake???... 8k... Is stupid apple is not innovative or technologically superior to anything... Pure garbage... When even Intel has their own frame generation technology Nvidia AMD the only company who is not able to do something like that is apple...
@@ItsIcedDonut Nvidia AMD Intel every company is working on it... Why apple isn't???... Oh they don't have the technology... False FPS when ps5 Xbox and PC are using it... Accept it apple sucks on gaming... They are a company without leadership without innovation... Their success died with Steve Jobs... 8k copies sold of this game on iOS... What a waste of resources...