What's the Difference Between a VW GTI and Golf R? | Edmunds
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- To the untrained eye there's little difference between the Golf GTI and Golf R. Under its subtly styled skin, the Golf R packs all-wheel drive, considerably more power and a more upscale interior. The GTI, however, stays true to its roots with its torquey engine and front-wheel-drive layout. So which of the two cars offers a better driving experience? Road Test Editor Kurt Niebuhr drives them back to back to find out.
Q: What are the main differences between the GTI and the Golf R?
A: The Golf R has all-wheel drive and more horsepower, but most of the differences setting the R apart from the GTI are subtle. For example, the Golf R has different exterior styling, different seats and a digital instrument panel. Oh, and depending on how the GTI is equipped, the Golf R can cost nearly $15,000 more.
Q: Does the Golf R get a different engine?
A: Kind of. The engine is the same 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder (EA888 in VW-speak) as what's in the GTI, but it uses a different cylinder head, turbocharger and exhaust valves and has a host of other tweaks to give it more power.
Q: What's the difference in price between the two?
A: A basic VW GTI will set you back just over $26K. The GTI in this video, with the Autobahn trim level, cost nearly $36K. The Golf R starts, and finishes, around $40K. The one in this video has the optional dual-clutch automatic transmission.
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put this guy in more videos! i love it!
Great comparison. Short but still informative! Totally agree regarding the tires. Drove a Mk7 GTI with Michelin Pilot Super Sports and it noticeably changed how the car felt versus the stock rubber.
More reviews with this guy, please!
Great job with this review!
My 2016 GTI weighed a bit under 3000 lbs. But it's a 2 door, base model with a 6 speed. Its lighter than my mini Cooper S was on the same scale. Also, stickier tires are a must. The oem all seasons are junk. Fun, comfortable car I bought with under 14k miles for $16k in 2017. Now at over 60k with zero issues. Just like my 2010, 2006, 1992 GTIs. Take care of a car and it'll take care of you.
Tim Flohr gti's are such great cars. Have fun with yours!
I have the 2016 3 door with the DSG and the performance pack with Bridgstone Potenza tyers, must say it is a fun car to drive and not to bad on the corners.
Tim Flohr Hey are you that guy Ive been beating year after year after year in my Speed3? Nothing better than picking on GTIs If I see one...Im smoking him lol
I have a 2016 GTI 2 door manual, only real complaints are the "clutch delay valve" which inhibits great shifts and am surprised that no testers seem to comment on this annoying problem. Only other is the hard centre stack on the driver's side which kills your knee on anything other than a short drive.
Great review!
Owned both. Golf R all day
Michael S me too. Agree 100%. Gti just falls a bit flat on acceleration and it has too much torque for the front wheels.
Golf R; Dream car.
Same and it is completely worth it. I got 6mt even though it’s slower
Love my '17 R with manny-tranny and Uni S1+!
About to enter my final year of lease and can find no reason why I shouldn't buy it at the end. It just desperately needs ability to adjust camber up front - my only real complaint. Great car!
Toss me 10 grand and I'll just skip the GTI.
This guy should start his own show he does a great job!
Great video. I got a late 2017 GTI Sport, no longer an available trim option (all base trim, but with the performance pack goodies). Got a DSG since I wanted to experience a dual clutch and can say that it is awesome. The video is spot on, why get a GTI Autobahn, when you can get the R! If they did an R Sportswagen in the US, I would be drooling!
In terms of real world pricing, the price difference between an R and a GTI Autobahn is much more than "a few thousand" dollars. I purchased a GTI Autobahn in May 2018 for about $10,000 less than an equivalent Golf R.
A very fair and informative review, I'd say. I'd take issue with only one point: the oft-claimed "few thousand dollar difference" in price between comparable trims of the GTI and the Golf R. I realize that reviewers can only cite MSRP prices but in the real world I found it's not "a few thousand dollars difference." Last May I dealt with six different dealers in and around Seattle. I found only one dealer willing to sell an R on their lot for MSRP of about $41K. And that was for a single car that had been ordered but rejected on delivery. Every other dealer wanted at least $2000 over MSRP for the R. In contrast, I purchased a fully loaded GTI Autobahn DSG for $32,043 plus TTL. Considering taxes and comparing it to the one dealer willing to sell the R for MSRP that brought the difference to about $10,000.
The R is a magnificent vehicle. And if the price difference were only $2K-$3K, I might have opted for it. But for the $10K I saved, I can add a Stage I APR tune and Michelin summer rubber and leave another $8k in my pocket. Add to that the fact that the weight of the R is like adding an NFL cornerback to the passenger seat of the GTI , that the GTI has a sunroof not available in the R (I'm in Seattle where we need all the sunlight we can get) and I just couldn't justify the price difference.
I wouldn't quarrel with anyone who selects a R, instead, especially if straight line performance and/or tough winter driving is a personal priority but the real world price premium one pays for those advantages is far from negligible.
@@tomw485 I was pricing a DSG. You're correct that the R is a very popular car here in the Pacific Northwest, at least in relation to the supply available. In the Seattle area we don't have to deal with much winter snow but our winters are messy and mountain driving is nearby. AWD vehicles of all kinds are very, very popular here.
When I was shopping in the spring of this year just as the "R" was becoming available I was told repeatedly by multiple dealers that they could get only the number of "R's" that they had pre-order deposits on. I think VW may have made some more R's available by now but the supply on the west coast is still extremely limited. Cars.com, for example, shows only one new R for sale within 500 miles of Seattle (over 300 miles away) and only seven more on the entire west coast.
I've heard from others that "R's" are more readily available in Canada as well as back east. I suspect VW may have made more available (relative to market size) in Canada because Canadians are even more committed to AWD vehicles than in most US markets. And while the R is marketed in the US principally as a performance car I've been told by several people that its AWD is the most important factor for Canadian buyers.
My GTI is my second. I had the last year of the MK6 (2013) built in Germany and loved it. But I have to say that the 2018 model is even better; tighter, more planted, all in all better put together, and better performing. For my driving style I'd have to say that the GTI gives me about 90% of what an R offers for about 80% of the price. As I said, I wouldn't criticize anyone for making the other choice but I'm more than satisfied with mine. Hope you're enjoying your R...I suspect you are. ;)
Good review! Hope we eventually get the Scirocco though!!!!
Good review! R is one of the best daily drivers ever made (With DSG)!
I went a 2018 GTI after hemming and hawing for a year. No Sunroof in the R! Plus anyone that actually pays 36K for a GTI is a horrible negotiator. It is easily a 10K savings over the R which dealers hardly ever come down on. While I really really wanted AWD and that cockpit it wasn't worth the extra cash. All said and done, I love my GTI, a BLAST to drive around town. Plus my sunroof has been open everyday this summer.
Jake Reese I was literally just thinking about this. I had a car without a sunroof for 3 weeks and it got stolen. I wasn’t actually that sad.
Totally agree. I get why the above comparison was made, but to me, I'd rather see both cars with DSGs and summer tires. A tuned GTI with DSG will easily hit 5.5 seconds to 60. That said, I'd still be driving a Golf R right now if it came with a sunroof.
@@crownr0yalonice I test drove the R for three days through turo.com LOVED it but for 41K needs a sunroof. Europe gets one, totally lame. If the R came with one I would be driving an R.
Drives me nuts how all the "performance minded" people dismiss sunroofs. "Too heavy, too leaky, blah blah blah". The sunroof on my MK7 really brightened up the spartan interior and was bombproof despite constantly being used. Despite loving my GTI and wanting an R, I ended up in a Q4 Giulia Ti Sport instead. Car has been so good, I am forever ruined.
Jake Reese: You're right on. Here's my experience. Five months ago I went shopping for a replacement for my 2013 MK6 GTI. The R is a magnificent machine and I thought seriously about buying one. However, after seriously consulting six dealers in the western Washington area I found only one willing to sell an R at MSRP (about $41K + TTL in Washington State of about 11%). Every other dealer wanted at least $2K over sticker. Several wanted even more "market adjustment."
In contrast, I purchased a GTI Autobahn/DSG for $32,043 + TTL, with about $250 of accessories thrown in. In other words, about $6000 under MSRP. Altogether the difference was about what you estimated, around $10,000 taking into account savings in sales tax. I often see reviewers and others who haven't actually tried to purchase a car claim that the price difference between a GTI and an R is "two or three thousand bucks." But MSRP is not a real world price for either car.
Furthermore, with the $10K I saved, I have more than enough money to change tires and to add a Stage I APR tune to the engine and transmission and have thousands of dollars left over. (And yes, I have extensive experience with APR's Stage I VW tune. It adds massive improvement to HP and torque and is (in my experience of about 25,000 miles on my last GTI) dead reliable.) I can't add AWD to GTI but I don't live in Minnesota, either. And since VW 4Motion is a FWD-biased AWD system, most or all of the power usually goes to the front wheels, anyway. Add in the weight savings equivalent of an NFL cornerback and the sunroof (which in Seattle is a welcome option) and I'm a happy camper.
I wouldn't criticize anyone who decides to go the other way. And if I did track days once or twice a month I might have given the R more serious consideration. But for me $10,000 in savings was simply too good to pass up for so little gain.
Drive a manual golf R and love it! Manual is really engaging to drive but at higher speeds can be tough to keep up the pace with the car! Still an amazing car!
I like golf r a lot and I think it's one of the perfect cars for a city dweller if you want to have a little fun to and from work to let go off the days stress :)
Throttle overrun "rev hang" in our 2019 GLI manual is HORRIBLE, does the GTI suffer from this as well? My 2016 does not have this issue.
I ordered the 2018 Golf R with 19"Pretoria wheels after owning several generations of GTI's and I have no regrets.
The AWD in Winter conditions is amazing with Hakkapelitta R2's AWD> FWD 1000%
The R is nearly a MK3 Audi TTS with a Golf body- great combo, I had a MK2 TTS and the current R is faster but is almost invisible on the road unlike the Audi.
Love my GTI with summer racing tires. Kinda got lucky my dealership didn't give me the all season tires
Love my '18 Autobahn DSG in Dark Iron Blue.
Same as mine. Love the color.
Funny thing is the first time I saw this vid I had the GTI exact dark iron blue dsg and now I have a 2018 Golf R. I think it’s the most mature looking hot hatch perfect the older enthusiast 40-50’s
The R has a less aggressive front bumper?
I'm gonna buy the golf gti se. I dont care about track times and cornering I care about a fun hatch back. Plus I can tune the gti up to way over the hp of the golf r. I will definitely be looking into getting summer tires for the road if the all seasons are trash. Over all although this video pushes the r because it makes sense to buy it because it's a bit more money doesnt really catch my eye when I can get a golf se for way less than 35k. Great video though
So which is better in the end ?
Lots of base 2018 GTIS for around 21k where I'm at haven't been able to see a new golf r below 38k yet. Also the R has a bigger turbo and is just better looking with R blue paint
I picked up a new 2017 GTI S model with the DSG in January this year for $20,800(discounted nearly 7k) to make room for the Mk7.5 models... Gotta buy em at the right time.
That's a great price! Where was it?
San Antonio, TX
Now that's a damn good price wow, you must be good at negotiating
he is a shrewd negotiator...
drsnowmon Lol thanks! It wasn't my first car purchase but what helped me a lot was the fact that another dealership an hour north of me in Austin had the exact same vehicle priced at $20,800 and I told them straight up if they didn't want to sell it to me at the same price that I'd simply go and purchase it from the competitor. I also went at the end of the month, this is typically when they'll be more willing to make new car deals happen so they can hit manufacturer bonuses. Also stonewall them when they try to sell you any dealer installed accessories, extended warranties, etc...
In the US, the Autobahn GTI gives the option for max performance summer tires at no addition cost. The problem is if you are buying a car off a dealer's lot it probably has all-seasons unless you live in Florida or Hawaii. Otherwise its an order-only option. As far as the price difference between the Autobahn and Golf R goes, that $36K price you mentioned is MSRP but if you look around you can get it for $32K in reality. Especially at the end of the model year when the next years GTIs are about to come out. The Golf R on the other hand NEVER EVER budges on price and thats a fact. So the real world price difference is $8- 10K. Unless you need AWD, The GTI is a much better deal for road driving. (99% of drivers never go to a track.)
Comparison is really compromised. All season tires on the GTI and a DCT on the Golf R make the test times really not apples to apples.
Dont focus on times, focus on driving impressions.
Alan Bowers times are important when the manual R is considerably slower than the dsg R. Manual R is not far off a dsg gti in 0-60 acceleration!!
@@owenkettson9703 you are doing the same thing that you are complaining about DSG GTI in good condition is still 5.6 with the DSG and a muanl R is 5.1 secs so manual to manual the GTI is the same space as it is with the DSG to DSG. DSG fits the golf R beater and the manual fits the GTi beater. the manual in the Golf R felt like my manual in my 2013 beetle turbo I had. When I went and test drive one and I had just come from testing a focus RS and it made it fill even worse. I tested the gti and I did not like the DSG in it the only reason i even bothered to test drive the gti was the sells man told me they had a LSD in them come to find out after testing it was eclectic and sucked. one more thing the more you mod both car the R's time will pull more and more on the GTI DSG to DSG. if you to modify and be able to hook up in 1,2,3 gear I would go for the R if don't plan on modifying go for the GTI. I had a 400hp fwd car and you never hook in 1,2,3 and I could chip 4.
note I was fine with the manual in the beetle because it was a beetle even though it had 400 hp
Two things:
1.- More power
2.- AWD
What if you put an ecu tune on the GTi?
Varga Dániel gti already has too much torque for front wheels. Always spinning. It’s funny sometimes, but disappointing other times.....
Owen Kettson untrue. Look up the Golf Clubsport, faster around a track than an R. Perfect balance/power/weight. This test US gti is very hampered by its poor tires but don't be fooled
if you get a Volkswagen the R Line is the fastest version you can get of that perticular car?
that is the differences between an A3 fwd vs S3
Difference in ride quality?
Wondering about the reported 60-0 stopping distance differences between the GTI and the R, 134 ft vs 106 ft. Since the 2018 GTI has the same brakes as the R and weighs about 200 lbs less, I'm puzzled. Is different tires the explanation? If so, that's striking.
Another contributor could also be weight distribution. More weight in the rear means that the R rear brakes can contribute more to slowing the car down before ABS kicks in due to weight transfer.
You’re going to want the R with the automatic gearbox, all though the GTI with the optional Diff is cool 2. It doesn’t really matter honestly but I prefer the R 😍
Living in Colorado I really wanted to buy the R with AWD, but I had to have a sunroof. As the R had, inexplicably, no sunroof option, the GTI Autobahn was my choice.
i hate sun roofs. i'm not going to really complain if it's standard but no way i am paying extra to get one. ive had two cars with sun roofs never even opened them no idea if they even worked.
Yup. There is an explanation for why it isn't there, it's just a dumb one (VW didn't feel like certifying the sunroof model). I should have stayed with my Autobahn too; cheaper and had a sunroof! :(
I wanted an R and settled for a 17 GTI Autobahn. Although the car is spirited, it just lacks everything I wanted in the R. The all wheel drive, the 70hp and a better exhaust note. Sure you can add a tune and make them wicked fast, but messing with adding and removing larger downpipes is a lot of work.
Michael Elliott: In my experience "adding and removing larger downpipes" isn't necessary unless an exhaust note is a high priority for you. A Stage I APR tune and better tires, alone, transforms the GTI. Not to downplay the advantages of the R but I recently purchased a fully loaded 2018 GTI Autobahn for about $10,000 less than an R. The FWD biased 4Motion AWD just wasn't worth that premium for me.
Stephen Hendricks For me it has a lot to do with Cal emissions. Unless you’ve got a good connection with a tuner friendly shop, wouldn’t a smog shop flag you for visual inspection. Granted I don’t need a smog for 4 years. Plus I don’t won’t to void what’s left of my warranty, I’ve had a strange knock, kinda sounds like a bad lifter that my local dealership says is common. So far I’ve listened to two stock 17’s that besides their normal exhaust note are quiet. A nicer exhaust note would be great, and tires will definitely be replaced, mine came with Hankook.
@Michael Elliott: Can't speak for California emissions since I live in Washington. But emission requirements here, like California, are strict. I've never had any problems passing emission tests here with a tuned GTI. Nor has anyone reported a problem among the VW enthusiasts who belong to a Seattle online group to which I belong.
As for the warranty, it's a common myth that tuning a VW (or other vehicles) automatically voids the warranty. That's not true. Unless a warranty problem can be traced to the effect of a tune, manufacturers are required by law to honor the warranty. Numerous court cases to that effect. That, of course, doesn't necessarily mean much if a dealer refuses to deal with a warranty issue and dares you to take them to court. Quite a hassle. So what to do?
Three options. First, regularly take your car for service to a "tune friendly" VW dealer. There are several here in the Seattle area and I suspect you can find one if you're in the LA or Bay Area. I intentionally purchased my GTI from one and have had no issues. Second option is to choose a tuning company that offers a reversible tuning product. I have no experience with such a product but others report they can be reset easily for warranty work. Finally, APR, the most popular VW Tune company offers a replacement third party warranty that provides the same coverage as VW's 6 year/72K bumper to bumper warranty. The cost is quite reasonable for added peace of mind.
Stephen Hendricks thanks that’s a lot of helpful info.
I picked up a MK6 GTI with 10k miles for $17k last year and I'm extremely happy with it so far. I have to agree that the wheelspin is a huge downside though. Maybe I'm just bad at accelerating off the line, but I've found that I can't get to third without some major spinning. Pirelli all-seasons as well.
Your tires are the problem. Replace them with Michelin Pilot Sports and you'll see a vast difference. I did.
I got 2017 gti s model with the dsg for only $18500 new to make room for the 7.5 and 2019 coming out soon
I Loved The Golf R & The GTI, But The 6 Speed Manual Is Lovable.
is the gti called mk 7 and r mk 7.5?
if ur buying a fully loaded GTI i think that is missing the point of what a GTI is. then again its just my opinion but i think a low trim GTI with maybe a few options, could be purchased in the low 20s, that makes it appeal more since ur getting the same power and car just less bells and whistles.
Used that logic when I bought my 2018 focus ST. Couldnt find enough reason to spend an extra 6-8 grand for the st3. The interior had more bells and whistles but its not any faster than the st1 and its a sports car so who cares
MrNick98: Depends on one's priorities. If 0-60, quarter mile, and track times are your only priorities, you're correct. But not everyone cares only about those features in a vehicle and considers everything else "just bells and whistles."
I have the autobahn 2018 gti, got it for about 32 grand with the dsg, and it was worth every penny. The reason I wanted it over the SE was because of the leather seats, fender audio system, navigation system. automatic air conditioning, and adaptive cruise control. Would’ve cost me another $8k to get the R with less features (no sunroof, no auto parallel parking, no foglights) but more horsepower and awd. I think I made the right decision with the GTI, because not only was I looking for performance, but also a lot of features.
@@heyitsme939 Identical to my experience. Paid $32,043 plus ttl for my Autobahn DSG. The R would have run about $10,000 more. Love the R but, for me, the ten grand premium was just not worth it.
I'm not planning on going to a track or street racing so I'm sticking with the gti good fun car to drive around town and its alot cheaper than the r
I totally agree it's the perfect all round I need here in South Africa we get the gti with leather seats,panoramic sunroof and and digital dash
Why is the BHP lower in the US on these cars when compared to the UK?
Slightly different tunes to deal with differences in the way HP is calculated in the US and the UK.
hows the reliability on vw family? anyone outthere drove over 100k?
Is it actually full time all wheel drive or partial?
4Motion is a FWD-biased AWD system. Power is sent to the rear wheels when front wheel slip is detected.
Beautiful cars
I suspect the tires GTI comes with aren't the best for performance, but I wouldn't dismiss them that quickly. I get amazing fuel economy, they are better than what I'm used to , regular cars, and they are probably the cheapest premium tires I found in my area in the proper size. Compared to other tires, they seem to lag behind on paper, but behind the wheel, if you drive like a normal person, they seem to be above average, no question about it. I might choose a different type at least once, but I'm not in any hurry to do that. One year later they are perfectly fine.
Maybe it is a Canadian thing but my 2018 GTI came with summer tires.
0-60 in 4.7 Seconds? DAMN! How many other practical family cars for the same price $40Kish are this fast? I am genuinely curious.
The closest is probably the KIA Stinger but the GTI or the Golf R will outhandle the Kia. Otherwise, you're limited to something like a Mustang GT. But unless your "family" consists of you, your spouse, and maybe a big dog, it's not truly "practical."
With a tune and bolt ons it can go sub 4 seconds with the DSG.
@Omar Carrasquillo. You may be correct or at least close to 4 seconds. I'm not sure I see the point, though. (Perhaps because I'm not 17 years old anymore and haven't been for a long time.) Those mods wouldn't improve the driveability of the R anywhere but on a dragstrip. It wouldn't measurably improve time on a track other than on an oval. Using that additional power on a regular basis would quickly wear out the tires that you need to make it effective, not to mention increasing the likelihood of blowing the engine or losing control, especially on the street. All in all a lot of money spent for relatively little gain in anything other than bench racing.
By the way, I'd argue that's not the case for the GTI. A stage 1 tune won't bring a 4 second 0-60 time, of course, but it does improve driveability and real world performance usable on the street without measurably lowering the reliability and durability of the vehicle. And as long as you stick with a DSG, you won't have to replace the clutch on an annual basis, something that's true of tuning either the GTI or the R.
Bmw 335d xdrive
@@swift2117 The 335 is way way more expensive
I don't really like the rims on the GTI but I really don't really like the rims on the R.
Am I the only one that prefers the pre face-lift front end?
Nope! Facelift front end looks like shit IMO
Yes. Yes, you are. ;)
Nope! I love my MK7 look way more. I want the euro tail lights though
@@fitness_mcgee6353 just looks... Idk, softer I guess. But do like the rear end
Ehhh I like the lights on the face lift but the bumper was better before
Seriously , make a video on the known stuff
Stick some summer tires on the GTI and watch the diff do its magic...
I would assume the golf R Will 50% to 65% more gas than the GTI so it might really cost too much in gas money if you drive the car a lot for work and travel on the weekends
Lights are completely different for uk and power is different
Are either cars reliable?
i have 50k on my 2016 GTI and havent had a single issue.
Instead of a spec'd GTi, get the base R. Don't feel less of a man opting out for the DSG over the manual, its that's good. But if you really want a manual, there are better options out there.
In the US there is no such thing as a "base R" unless you mean an R with a manual transmission. Otherwise, there are no options. That's not the case in Europe but it is in the US.
APR Stage 1 a GTI and you will be quite satisfied by spending the $600 for the tune.
He's very insightful with the Golf but at the same time he's the only person who is saying Golf is a fun car....
Wow the finger prints on the center console that piano black is horrible
So don't touch it, there is no reason to do so anyways. Everyone complains about the piano black, I don't find it even remotely difficult to keep clean in my R.
flacjacket: The piano black in my GTI's center console is not nearly as annoying as the fingerprints on the infotainment screen. And avoiding touching that is well nigh impossible. To cope with my OCD I keep a microfiber cloth behind the console door and clean it a couple of times a day. Small price to pay but still annoying.
Agreed, but that only reflects what type of person you are. You won't find a speck of dust on my screen, let alone finger prints.
The GTI is the Baby version. Pretty much like the Mustang V8 GT and the Mustang Pony.
I’ve had both. My wife still has my Autobahn 2016 GTI, but I’ve sold my R. The issue is that it’s accelerator is so heavy that unless you really push, it doesn’t feel fast and when you do push, all hell breaks loose. The GTI is honestly more fun. It’s far easier to accelerate quickly by feathering the throttle. It’s not all or nothing. In every day non track driving, at 80%, it feels faster and lighter than the R. Unless you like driving at 90% all the time, save yourself the extra money.
The Volkswagen Golf GTI has been around 43 years while the Golf R/R32 has been around 14 years!
$40,000 for an R is a lot. Just get the GTI and you'll be completely happy. You will never reach the limits on regular roads where the difference between the R and GTI matter.
yep
different letters
VW needs to sell the Sirocco in the U.S.
I hate how they look so much alike
Ed D.L.C. Considering that Golf owners consider the shape and styling of the car is just about perfect, it makes little sense to radically differentiate their styles.
change the tires ***omg***wow***
GTI means fast same thing like mercedes amg
That's a joke I guess. Look after an AMG A 45. 386 HP and way faster than the GTI. A GTI is a fast affordable car, but an AMG is much faster (and much more expensive. An AMG is like a Audi RS and a GTI a bit slower than an Audi S. Not really comparable
My mom Owns a vw golf r variant
Cool mom. :)
FWD automatically pushes me away.
For a daily driver a pick de gti ftw ..10000$ lesss put a chip in it you barely eat the r in a straight line
Sooooo, why don't you change tires, comeback and show us the DIFFERENCE
If the R its facelift it has 310HP
I have no idea why I watched this video lol
Better with mods then you letting the beast out
and im here in my GLI like damm made the wrong choice lol
one is more expensive
i hate directional wheels
1:12 "The Golf R weighs 200 pounds more, but you wouldn't know it based on the way it accelerates"
2:36 "If I had one complaint about the Golf R, is its weight"
...which is it?
Different ingredients but same receipt makes no sense
The people’s car eh ?!
1 series r better best hatchback ..,
For 41k I'm taking Stinger GT and Used manual GTi
Not unless you get the GTI free of charge.
@@stephenhendricks103 You can get Stinger GT new for 30k and used GTi for 13k.. go check it out man, stinger gt is getting crazy deals right now
Why are you calling it the VW GTi???
GTI ... grand tourism / R ... racing .
Why can’t VW make the Golf R in Jetta form?
Why buy golf R when you can get v8 mustang for that money ?
mustang is way less practical for an every day driver
golf r isn’t that heavy
All Season Tires on a GTI? Wtf? Not in Germany. These tires drives like on soap. Dunlop Sportmaxx GT are on it I guess
A gutted clio rs 200 that weighs under 1 tone is way better , there is nothing cool about an overpowered family car.
But Girls loves the GTI more 😂
made in mexico vs made in germany -----R is the choice
make an electric one please vw...and call it the golf E_R? eheheh. No.
Golf gte
@@Stephenp888 ah yes.
Gti a better looking car from the front and rear
GTI basic will set you back 42.181 euros (48,796.38 USD) and the R basic is available at 59.221 euros (68,501.68USD) , and we live next to Germany . No wonder in the USA there are a lot of nice , expensive , petrol gulping cars that most people cannot buy , only in the USA where they keep the dream alive and petrol costs next to nothing . Or is the car the last thing the government wants to meddle with before all hell breaks loose and people finally start to rebel against the crimes ?
You pay all that money for the R and can’t even get a sunroof or fog lights smh I’m good with my 2018 SE
I've got a sunroof...
Sean Gillespie it’s not an option in North America
That's rubbish it's great to have as well sure it would have been a good option to sell in the States
The Biggest difference between the 2 and most important is the GTI has history. The lineage is proven...
Both wheels are hideous
If you're going to spend 50k on a golf lol might as well sack up and spend a bit more for a M4
What 50k? Top DSG R trim is 43k in the US. Youre talking 64k for an M3 which is RWD, garbage in weather that involves rain or snow, and you get the basic spec for that much money. $70k is what an avg spec M3 costs and doesnt even come with half the tech the R offers.
All Season Tyres on a GTI, WTF? Someone should get a slap for that stupid stunt.