I'm an American, and I can't believe someone would teach that "Happy 18 years old" is correct English with that much confidence. That's just not something any native English speaker I know would ever say. It sucks because people go to these videos to try to improve themselves. I watch similar videos for French and I put my trust in those people to guide me and help me become a better French speaker. If they teach a phrase, I believe them.
I live in the states for 20 years now and never ever have I heard "happy 18 years old" or "happy 18" or "happy + [any other age]". It's always "happy birthday". And by always I mean 100%.
@@nekto34 You might hear "Happy 18th birthday!" or even sometimes just "Happy 18th!" But you always have the th at the end if you say it like that, and it's not nearly as common as just plain old happy birthday.
I couldn't believe how bad her mistakes were. I stumbled on this video and just assumed it would be pedantry, but saying stuff like 'This is peeler', 'Happy 16 years old', 'How is is called?' and other obvious Russian-influenced mistakes is unacceptable for someone making money from 'teaching' English
What people don't seem to understand is that Marina is not your average non-native english speaker who makes mistakes, she presents herself (as far as I understand) as a teacher, and gives tips on pronunciation and grammar which clearly she hasn't completely mastered. Moreover she creates courses!!! So I understand why you guys made the videos correcting her mistakes and honestly I appreciate it.
These kind of videos just make me feel like not studying English anymore. The way people talk about how someone proceeds is really such a terrible thing.
Разделали под орех.😅 А там (с Могилко) как с гуся вода. Что и не удивительно, т.к. это "бизнес" в первую очередь. Зато какая польза тем, кто учит язык! Спасибо огромное, Лиза и Кевин!
Such great and respectful way of defending yourselves without using bad vocabulary or pointless arguments like those people. Thanks for all your great work 😃
It is so impressive that you’re not a native English speaker. I’d never have guessed. And I think that you don’t have to defend yourself. A lot of people understand that you’re totally right. Thank you for your honesty and competence
@@goodchild109 Don’t think so. At least not by birth. Or she was taken into English speaking environment as a small child. She teaches Russian language and it is perfect but with a very subtle accent. She is also beautiful!
It is NOT wrong to objectively correct a very influential person who is spreading incorrect knowledge, even if it is due to ignorance. It is OK to make mistakes but it is wrong to spread them.
I'm Brazilian and living for the later 16 years in The UK, and I still making a lot of mistakes and I found this channel . I thought that is the best English lessons channel I ever found , exactly because you guys show us the most common mistakes a non native speaker make. So this channel is essential if ones does not want to learn wrong English and be lied on the You tube.
Может не инфоциганка, но лайт версия шарлатанки. Это тенденции женщин с амбициями во имя добычи хлеба на стол. Пожелаем ей побольше ошибок, а нам от Кевина и Лизы побольше уроков грамматики.
Я ее видео смотрела лет 5 назад или больше. Прикольно,что девочку,которая 2 часа рассказывала,как она сделала операцию на глазах, теперь на серьезных щах критикуют ее иностранные коллеги.
Какой потрясающий ответ на низкие ложные обвинения! Очень здорово, что вы решили пройтись по пунктам и ответить на каждый, с примерами и доказательствами. Я очень переживала, что вы, возможно, перестанете делать видео насчёт Марининых ошибок, потому что они были крайне познавательными и наглядными, и я несказанно рада, что вы отстояли свою честь и продолжаете снимать прекрасные полезные видеоуроки!
@@savssavs8559 во-первых, они и делают свои видео. И далеко не все их видео об ошибках Марины. А во-вторых, не смотрите, раз вам так скучно, в чем проблема?
Marina is brave enough to teach incorrect English. If I were her I would definitely apologize for all the mistakes. There is a difference between a qualified teacher and a blogger. And Marina is definitely good at blogging. Thank you Liza and Kevin for making everything clear.
I'm a subscriber to both, and I used to watch Marnina's videos all the time. I had no idea she had so many grammatical errors, but you are brave enough to speak up. Yes, I completely agree! It is acceptable for someone to make unintentional grammar errors in their daily life. A tutor, on the other hand, should not have taught incorrect English. I don't despise her, but I support you! Lisa, thank you so much. Your channel is significant and beneficial to me.
not at all I've learned much from the linguamarina youtube channel, I am a french speaker, but because of her I opened an English youtube channel 👉www.youtube.com/@Whereareyoufrom1501👈
This is literally one of the best responses to the criticism that is not constructive at all. Way to go! And thank you for the work you do to expose all the mistakes that Marina (who represents herself as a teacher) makes.
Это самый интересный и интеллигентный "разбор", что я видела. А то что человек пытается притянуть за уши понятия "белый, нэтив, мужчина" - это максимально выставило человека выражающего необосновпнный негатив, в "подкупе" мнений и необъективности.
I am an English teacher with 10 years of experience. I think what you have done is totally correct , i agree with majority comments here: making mistakes is okay but when teaching millions - we should be careful enough or let the pros do their job. as far as other videos of yours, i love them all: clear pronunciation, pausinh seconds for listenre to answer is great. i have been using this method with my 2 children at home and it has worked ! shortly, thanks for the content. we love learning about the mistakes we have been doing. getting clesr explanation makes it easy to correct our english faster love from uzbekistan❤
We all know that nobody is perfect, but there is a difference between making mistakes in daily life and making mistakes in teaching. As a non-native speaker, i really appreciate that your channel exists. Thank you for all the hard work you’ve done !
Hats off to you, Liza. I was literally applauding while watching this video. I'm shocked you're not a native speaker, and can't put into words how greatly I admire you. You and Kevin are magnificent teachers, I say thank you very much. I want to conclude with a quote by Nassim Taleb: “If you see fraud and do not say fraud, you are a fraud.”
Actually, what is happening with Marina's success as an "American English" teacher, is perfectly understandable. Mediocracy is much more easier to sell than excellence.
Я рад что кевин и Лиза они решили поставить Марину могилко на место за всё надо платить Марина обвела огромное количество людей вокруг носа расказивала скаски про несошествуюшую компанию linguatrip она думала что если свалет в другую страну то сможет от туда промывать мозги людям не вышло хорошо что американцы почюстволи что их дурят или просто абманывают Марина могилко не учитель она претпринематель и ютубер она заробатовает деньги прадовая очень плохой продукт ей наплевать на качество своего продукта её больше интересует сколько она палучи денег не удевительно по чему она ушла с linguatrip tv channel веть там надо говорить правельно на английском без ошибок но Марина могилко не у меет говорить правельно она растеряла весь свой англиский.
В мире английского английский может значительно отличаться даже в одной английской деревне на двух разных берегах реки. У меня на работе коллегу из Манчестера зачастую не понимают его коллеги из Уэльса, особенно когда он возвращается из поездки домой. И ничего, у всех английский правильный :)
Marina will NEVER delete her videos. Why? It's because she earns a lot from them. She doesn't care whether her audience learns or not. All she cares about is MONEY. Shame on you, Marina.
Вы всё правильно делаете. Качество не должно быть плохим за счёт доверчивых, ничего не подозревающих учеников. Я бы на месте Марины просто извинилась за свои ошибки и просто улучшила качество, но нет-зачем признавать ошибки, лучше атаковать через посредников и пусть качество останется как прежде плохим.
Кстати, Могилко ещё и плагиаторша. Пару лет назад мне на RUclips попалось видео Айше Борсеитовой, какой-то урок по английскому. И, буквально через пару дней, у Могилко выходит похожее, почти один-в-один, видео. А Вы говорите - "качество"..
Имидж ничто, бабло всё ! Переключайтесь на нейтивов с уровня intermediate - сейчас уж грешно жаловаться с таким кол-во интернет ресурсов для выбора. А так да, надо тролить и щемить аргументированно таких низкопробных училок - закладывают в неокрепшие умы неверные паттерны английского.
Came across your channel yesterday. I was unaware that Hadar was bashing your videos; sort of disappointed in Hadar now. You guys are truly the best and I admire your knowledge and professionalism!
Более того на своих курсах по ютубу и в своих соцсетях она учит всех не ждать получения образования, не разбираться в предмете, а начинать продавать воздух, снимать видео по предмету, в котором не разобрался и продавать это людям, чему она и учит на своём новом курсе по маркетингу
Well, thank you for introducing me Marina - such a charismatic girl! Not to be biased for no reason, I have had a quick look through some lessons, and though I am a fluent English speaker, I have found some new interesting expressions for me. I also observed some minor errors, like comma missing before too, for instance. What can I say: 1. Marina is not making her "courses" or writing the phrases for the dialogues, etc. The team and outsourced people do this. It is obvious. She is a media person, a face to attract. 2. Any language book issued not by natives formally educated in the field will have errors and drawbacks. I have seen plenty of them, none was perfect. However, I cannot say they were useless. One should be prepared to take such books and courses with a pinch of sault. Next, learning language is possible only through multiple sources, also listening to different native and non-native speakers. If you want to be sure, learn Oxford and Cambridge courses, i.e, those from the country of origin. Any other books and courses are done at best by their publishers, esp. non-natives. This is how English is taught in universities abroad - using Oxford and Cambridge books and thoroughly verified local books which still contain some deficiencies. What I saw here was the attempt by a course maker to put down the competitor. Yes, Marina is not perfect and not a native speaker. I would not recommend her courses as a training for entering university or passing TOEFL. But for fun and practice in conversational and listening skills, why not? I would not use it for teaching kids in classes without previous checking. But in general there are lots of cool exercises to use even for teachers.
Thanks to teachers like Marina I’m still bad in articles because one period I was watching her videos in the very beginning of my journey. It’s much harder to fix the mistakes later on rather than learn correctly since the beginning…
I stand by you, guys. Marina is taking for granted RUclips monetization. RUclips monetized their videos to boost competition among content creators .That way these content creators would make excellent and high-quality videos for everyone. It's a shame that RUclips doesn't seem to be doing anything about this matter and let creators like Marina spread misinformation. This is so unfair to those who really work hard and do their research.
You are very right. It all depends on how you present yourself. We're here to learn what proper English is, and that's what I appreciate. Thanks for your videos.
Наконец то хоть кто-то показывает сколько ошибок делает Марина! Мне кажется что у неё даже нет педагогического образования, но это не было бы проблемой, если бы она не учила миллионы людей неправильному английскому, ведь переучиваться намного сложнее... Марина просто хорошо продает , а это не означает что у неё есть качество.
Лиза, вам не нужно им ничего доказывать, адекватные люди и так все понимают😉 Спасибо за эти видео, Могилко должна или сесть за книги или удалиться из ютьюба со своим «образовательным» каналом! Я одна из тех, у кого ушло много времени переучиваться после того как меня учила одна из таких Могилко. Вы делайте очень полезное дело и никто не в праве закрывать вам рот. Keep it up!❤
As a non-native English speaker (Portuguese is my mother language), I would like to say that I am 56 years old and learned English after the age of 33. As teachers, Kevin and Liza have been doing an amazing job. We all know that on the internet we can find good and bad content. I decided to stick to the ones that help me build my confidence. Thanks, Kevin and Liza for all you have done.
Liza is a great example. I just knew that she is not a native speaker, but she is a perfect English speaker. That's what learning is all about: correcting mistakes and being grateful for each correction instead of standing the ground and insisting that one's english be correct, even though it is blatantly incorrect. I am on your side, Liza. Two thumbs up.
The video that Hadar made was disgusting, full of false accusations and appealing to cheap moralism to defend something that has no possible defense. Thanks for continuing to make your very useful videos and, especially, for acting as teachers that care about their students, something that both Hadar and Marina should do.
Hadar was so emotional on that video. We are here to learn facts, so she should check her emotions at the door to not fog her mind and make false accusations
Hi Liza and Kevin You are by far one of the best teachers on RUclips don't give up you are a classy couple, competent and sharp. You are not arrogant like MARINA and that is an indicator of great and smart persons I love you gays God blessed you Fatiha from SWITZERLAND
As an english learner, I only want to learn correct english. This is the basic principle of learning a new language. Thanks for Kevlin and Liza for guiding us to the right way
I agree with you Liza and Kevin. If Marina is presenting herself as a teacher, she better teach the right way, the right words, right pronunciation of words and phrases. Those two women are just pretentious. They don't care about their viewers, they are more about subscribers and money.
It's a pleasure to watch a video from a real professional. Videos by Marina and other 'top-bloggers' are based on a non-pleasant insticts. They make people belive that they are not as good until they 'buy another course from Marina'.
Я прожила в США больше 20 лет и получила высшее образование. Марина учит что нельзя говорить “Happy birthday”. Она что бредит? Только так и можно говорить, а не “happy 18-years”. Так вообще никто не говорит, и если вы так скажете, на вас посмотрят как дурака!
As a woman and non native English speaker I also see rude mistakes in Marina’s speaking. How stupid our feminist fight can be sometimes. Ridiculous. Thank you, Liza and Kevin, for your outstanding work! I learn a lot every day!
@@dannyjorde2677 I think u Ve a personal issue with feminist so u Ve this delusion and hallucinations , I suggest to u psychiatrist , will help u a lot 🦉
i don't agree with you all I've learned much from the linguamarina youtube channel, I am a french speaker, but because of her I opened an English youtube channel 👉www.youtube.com/@Whereareyoufrom1501👈
3:42 exactly! many people don't understand the difference between an "accent" and a "phonetical error". you need to distinguish between phonemes, even if they are with an accent
I have no idea why Hadar felt the need to mention the gender and race of the native speaker (Kevin) correcting mistakes that another English teacher (Marina) was making, and I am glad you called her on it. Marina is not a victim, she is a businesswoman selling a product on RUclips, and that product has some serious defects. The victims here are Marina's students, who may not know that what they are learning is incorrect. Marina does not just make mistakes, she makes a lot of serious mistakes and she drills her students on them (and charges them money for it). I would actually avoid her classes now that I have listened to her. Making mistakes is fine, teaching mistakes for profit is bad.
I was not interested into who was corrected but I liked the videos about the mistake corrections. In my view they are useful for people who are learning English. Many English learners make the same basic mistakes. I hope you will keep making them, even if in the future you decide not to talk about a specific RUclipsr. Also, thank you for sharing that English is your third language. That’s very encouraging for English learners.
Hola, Liza, te felicito a ti y a tu compañero profesor, por este maravilloso canal en youtube muy profesional y que gracias a ustedes que dia a dia hacen y dejan en alto la Gramatica Inglesa perfecta, sin ustedes se convertiría en un idioma distorsionado, poco profesional expandido por el mundo y dejando mal el verdadero Native American Speakers y el Orgullo de serlo. Cada vez me intereso por su idioma y ustedes demuestran la elegancia del idioma ingles en America que pone en alto la gramatica y el gentilicio Americano. Un gran saludo y abrazo desde Venezuela.
It's always going to be very smart and polite to clear mistakes made by someone who is misteaching something, the person who is mistaking should just be humble and thank that one who is correcting her or him.
You are doing a great job! You do it in a respectful and professional manner, with no personal attacks, providing only facts and a lot of useful & correct information for us! I was impressed by the fact that you are a non-native speaker. Stellar work! Thank you for all your efforts!
I'm a native speaker of 🇬🇧 English. Thank you for making this video. I can't believe some of these people are making so much money teaching "English", when they're unable to speak it correctly themselves. You have an accent, but you also have prefect pronunciation. Having a foreign accent does not mean that one has to have bad pronunciation. You also have perfect grammar, and are an excellent teacher. Lastly, I found your video highly entertaining, so I've subscribed (even though I don't need any help with my English). 😊 Good luck in your future endeavours.
@@gee8883 She definitely has an accent, but I am not able to place it. Regardless of her foreign accent, however, she has perfect pronunciation. I was surprised when she said that English was her third language. I would have zero hesitation in recommending her as an English teacher. Her grammar and syntax are excellent too.
@@gee8883 When I've started to watch this channel, I thought that Liza is either Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian etc. Lately, a Russian youtuber made a video about the conflict and in his video he guessed the same.
@@nevillec5252 I've been living in the USA for almost 37 years and I'm still learning new words, idioms slang etc, I speak American English every day, and my pronunciation is not perfect like liza's, I thought she was a native American English speaker, still I love her channel and I've learned a lot from her and Kevin too, thanks guys for your hard work and dedication at teaching the correct grammar of the American English
English is not my first language and i’m still learning. talking about Marina, she has made a lot of grammar mistakes but she speaks English with natural sound , not too slow and smiling broadly with funny gestures that let me to improve my english listening ‘ not boring’ . Some native speaker teachers teach english well both grammar and vocabulary but the way they teach easily boring , especially the way they speak ‘ not naturally.“ Sometimes learning english with funny ways. Although I support “ correct teaching “.
Спасибо большое за такой разбор, с моим небольшим опытом английского мне Могиленко Марина в целом не нравилась своими уроками, приятно понять что не зря!
Hadar Shemesh has outstanding qualities but that video where she brings up the fact that Kevin is a white male was a huge mistake, and I think she needs to apologize. Bringing gender and ethnicity to the table was a low move because it has nothing to do with the matter. If someone dares to teach something at least this person must have proper training and have been submitted to official evaluation and certification. In the same way, I absolutely support Liza and Kevin in teaching English in the right way and correcting those who are spreading incorrect information to naive beginners and charging money for that. That is fraud. I think Hadar mistep in criticizing competent, polite, generous teachers in order to defend an influencer that brings no value to the English learning community. Marina is spreading misinformation that will forever mislead people around the world while she brags how much money she gain doing so.
Your way of explaining information and getting it across to reader's brain is impressive and really memorable. You are wonderful teachers. Keep doing your job.
We deserve to receive the correct information from the RUclipsr, especially in this case about English lessons. And we should say thank you to Kevin and Liza who have given us the correct information.
RUclips is a free platform where anyone can upload information. It's your job to select good content. No one deserves anything. The world is not there to serve you.
I'm supporting you, Liza and Kevin, you do everything RIGHT. I'm tired of people saying " who has more subscribers is right and the others are just jealous". NOPE. We won't tolerate trash content even if it's successfully sold
I'm an American, and I can't believe someone would teach that "Happy 18 years old" is correct English with that much confidence. That's just not something any native English speaker I know would ever say. It sucks because people go to these videos to try to improve themselves. I watch similar videos for French and I put my trust in those people to guide me and help me become a better French speaker. If they teach a phrase, I believe them.
could you please advise a good learning French channel for beginner?
I live in the states for 20 years now and never ever have I heard "happy 18 years old" or "happy 18" or "happy + [any other age]". It's always "happy birthday". And by always I mean 100%.
@@nekto34 You might hear "Happy 18th birthday!" or even sometimes just "Happy 18th!" But you always have the th at the end if you say it like that, and it's not nearly as common as just plain old happy birthday.
I couldn't believe how bad her mistakes were. I stumbled on this video and just assumed it would be pedantry, but saying stuff like 'This is peeler', 'Happy 16 years old', 'How is is called?' and other obvious Russian-influenced mistakes is unacceptable for someone making money from 'teaching' English
@villeporttila5161 As a non- native English speaker on a daily basis who is still learning, it really hurt my ears listening to her mistakes!
What people don't seem to understand is that Marina is not your average non-native english speaker who makes mistakes, she presents herself (as far as I understand) as a teacher, and gives tips on pronunciation and grammar which clearly she hasn't completely mastered. Moreover she creates courses!!! So I understand why you guys made the videos correcting her mistakes and honestly I appreciate it.
There’s a simple way out for Marina, and it’s to hire a licensed corrector to avoid making such mistakes in future videos.
@@МаксимСоколов-в1г I 100% agree with you. It baffles me she hasn't done that yet.
These kind of videos just make me feel like not studying English anymore.
The way people talk about how someone proceeds is really such a terrible thing.
Она и не учитель
It will sound snippy, but don't trust the Russians. 2022 has brought so many examples why...
As a non native speaker and a continuous English learner, I do appreciate your efforts and courage to point out someone else’s mistakes. Thank you!
This is not an effort to encourage, this is demotivation with really very serious face, produced, as it appears, by a non native speaker.
@@tonyphony1304Mogylko, her friends, and family, please cut the crap😉
Вы правы - говорить в обычной жизни на английскойм и учить этому людей - абсолютно разные вещи!
Разделали под орех.😅 А там (с Могилко) как с гуся вода. Что и не удивительно, т.к. это "бизнес" в первую очередь. Зато какая польза тем, кто учит язык! Спасибо огромное, Лиза и Кевин!
Such great and respectful way of defending yourselves without using bad vocabulary or pointless arguments like those people. Thanks for all your great work 😃
It is so impressive that you’re not a native English speaker. I’d never have guessed. And I think that you don’t have to defend yourself. A lot of people understand that you’re totally right. Thank you for your honesty and competence
Liza is Russian by the way
@@goodchild109 Don’t think so. At least not by birth. Or she was taken into English speaking environment as a small child. She teaches Russian language and it is perfect but with a very subtle accent. She is also beautiful!
@@MaryJones-fs4wf I think she's Ukrainian. Who else can know 3 languages. Like Ukrainian from birth, then Russian and English. Perfect combo.
@@владиславкорнилинUkrainians speaking Russian have no accent.
@@goodchild109 Are you sure? I would never thought that she is Russian.
It is NOT wrong to objectively correct a very influential person who is spreading incorrect knowledge, even if it is due to ignorance. It is OK to make mistakes but it is wrong to spread them.
Well said
@@acampos8422 Very well put
Mogylko is a very influential scammer🤭😆
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Is it not wrong to use split infinitives?
I'm Brazilian and living for the later 16 years in The UK, and I still making a lot of mistakes and I found this channel . I thought that is the best English lessons channel I ever found , exactly because you guys show us the most common mistakes a non native speaker make. So this channel is essential if ones does not want to learn wrong English and be lied on the You tube.
Критика абсолютно справедливая, если ты преподаватель английского так будь добра проверяй какую информацию ты даёшь ученикам. Могилко инфоцыганка
Может не инфоциганка, но лайт версия шарлатанки. Это тенденции женщин с амбициями во имя добычи хлеба на стол. Пожелаем ей побольше ошибок, а нам от Кевина и Лизы побольше уроков грамматики.
Понятно, что она уже высасывает видео из пальца, чтобы делать деньги. Поэтому можно к каким-то видосам предратся.
Могилко похоронила свою карьеру в РФ, ей некуда деваться, будет держаться за свои фейковые курсы до последнего.
@@msavchenkopsycholog она вообще в рф что-то делала?
Я ее видео смотрела лет 5 назад или больше. Прикольно,что девочку,которая 2 часа рассказывала,как она сделала операцию на глазах, теперь на серьезных щах критикуют ее иностранные коллеги.
Какой потрясающий ответ на низкие ложные обвинения! Очень здорово, что вы решили пройтись по пунктам и ответить на каждый, с примерами и доказательствами.
Я очень переживала, что вы, возможно, перестанете делать видео насчёт Марининых ошибок, потому что они были крайне познавательными и наглядными, и я несказанно рада, что вы отстояли свою честь и продолжаете снимать прекрасные полезные видеоуроки!
@@exlibrisua https:/ youtu .be/mSB9hv3tTXc
а вы считаете это нормальным хайпить на чужом аккаунте? Пусть свои видео делают? Без вставок с этой мариной от этих лиз с кевином просто спать хочется
@@savssavs8559 а я думаю стало ещё интеремнее английский учить с этими баталиями хаах
@@savssavs8559 не спи - замёрзнешь
@@savssavs8559 во-первых, они и делают свои видео. И далеко не все их видео об ошибках Марины. А во-вторых, не смотрите, раз вам так скучно, в чем проблема?
Marina is brave enough to teach incorrect English. If I were her I would definitely apologize for all the mistakes. There is a difference between a qualified teacher and a blogger. And Marina is definitely good at blogging. Thank you Liza and Kevin for making everything clear.
She's good as making money
Seems like Marina is not brave enough to correct her own mistakes and apologize👀
Mogylko is stupid enough to teach something that she’s totally clueless about. Such a clown!
Frr I'm so embarrassed for her 💀
It’s sad but there’s thousands of unfit “professionals” like her
I'm a subscriber to both, and I used to watch Marnina's videos all the time. I had no idea she had so many grammatical errors, but you are brave enough to speak up. Yes, I completely agree! It is acceptable for someone to make unintentional grammar errors in their daily life. A tutor, on the other hand, should not have taught incorrect English. I don't despise her, but I support you! Lisa, thank you so much. Your channel is significant and beneficial to me.
yeah I was like you but wtf she does not even give a shit about what she teaches!!!
not at all I've learned much from the linguamarina youtube channel,
I am a french speaker, but because of her I opened an English youtube channel 👉www.youtube.com/@Whereareyoufrom1501👈
@reverendboaz5512 yes, I am
Marina isn't a teacher, she's a "youtube content creator". It's about money, and not about honesty or ethics. That's the main problem
@@psychologianiestacjonarna6558 I think so 🥺
This is literally one of the best responses to the criticism that is not constructive at all. Way to go! And thank you for the work you do to expose all the mistakes that Marina (who represents herself as a teacher) makes.
Это самый интересный и интеллигентный "разбор", что я видела. А то что человек пытается притянуть за уши понятия "белый, нэтив, мужчина" - это максимально выставило человека выражающего необосновпнный негатив, в "подкупе" мнений и необъективности.
I am an English teacher with 10 years of experience. I think what you have done is totally correct , i agree with majority comments here: making mistakes is okay but when teaching millions - we should be careful enough or let the pros do their job.
as far as other videos of yours, i love them all: clear pronunciation, pausinh seconds for listenre to answer is great. i have been using this method with my 2 children at home and it has worked ! shortly, thanks for the content. we love learning about the mistakes we have been doing. getting clesr explanation makes it easy to correct our english faster
love from uzbekistan❤
Сейчас зимой как бы хорошо оказаться у вас в Ташкенте!
Hi
У Марины нет грубых ошибок просто они завидуют, она уже получила гражданство, все восхищаются на её английский
@@dilshodismailov1254 Ну если нет грубых ошибок то это хорошо. :)
@@seti1805 у нас тоже холодно :с
We all know that nobody is perfect, but there is a difference between making mistakes in daily life and making mistakes in teaching. As a non-native speaker, i really appreciate that your channel exists. Thank you for all the hard work you’ve done !
Hats off to you, Liza. I was literally applauding while watching this video. I'm shocked you're not a native speaker, and can't put into words how greatly I admire you. You and Kevin are magnificent teachers, I say thank you very much. I want to conclude with a quote by Nassim Taleb: “If you see fraud and do not say fraud, you are a fraud.”
У Марины очень много ошибок даже на базовом уровне. Поэтому меня удивило, что она «обучает» английскому .
Для разговорного обиходного языка это пойдёт, здесь все так говорят....но учить это слишком! Дай Бог ей понять это и найти себя в чём то другом!
Для разговорного это подойдет, если вы рабочим работаете.
@@OlgaVanyushina и не рабочим тоже...Америка для всех очень открыта и толерантна,но быть учителем для американцев это перекос
@@ye2483 да ну серьезно? Вас возьмут журналистом с ошибками? А психологом? Рассказывайте
@@OlgaVanyushina я не это имела в виду ,всего хорошего вам!
Actually, what is happening with Marina's success as an "American English" teacher, is perfectly understandable. Mediocracy is much more easier to sell than excellence.
В мире много языков, но Лиза выбрала язык фактов 😎
Хорошо сказано
👍🏻
Да уж, аж форточку открыть хочется.
Я рад что кевин и Лиза они решили поставить Марину могилко на место за всё надо платить Марина обвела огромное количество людей вокруг носа расказивала скаски про несошествуюшую компанию linguatrip она думала что если свалет в другую страну то сможет от туда промывать мозги людям не вышло хорошо что американцы почюстволи что их дурят или просто абманывают Марина могилко не учитель она претпринематель и ютубер она заробатовает деньги прадовая очень плохой продукт ей наплевать на качество своего продукта её больше интересует сколько она палучи денег не удевительно по чему она ушла с linguatrip tv channel веть там надо говорить правельно на английском без ошибок но Марина могилко не у меет говорить правельно она растеряла весь свой англиский.
В мире английского английский может значительно отличаться даже в одной английской деревне на двух разных берегах реки. У меня на работе коллегу из Манчестера зачастую не понимают его коллеги из Уэльса, особенно когда он возвращается из поездки домой. И ничего, у всех английский правильный :)
Marina will NEVER delete her videos. Why? It's because she earns a lot from them. She doesn't care whether her audience learns or not. All she cares about is MONEY. Shame on you, Marina.
Yes
This is a very respectful way to show that you are right. I am not a native English speaker but I like to learn correct English from you.
I totally agree with you. If you present yourself as an expert in any subject you should really be an expert.
Kevin and Liza are outstanding English Teachers.
Thank you very much for the exciting lessons.
Love from the Philippines
I second that❤️
ОMG
Вы всё правильно делаете. Качество не должно быть плохим за счёт доверчивых, ничего не подозревающих учеников. Я бы на месте Марины просто извинилась за свои ошибки и просто улучшила качество, но нет-зачем признавать ошибки, лучше атаковать через посредников и пусть качество останется как прежде плохим.
Вот вот, если бы ей важно было качество, она могла бы 5-15 мин тратить на дабл чек информации и пересмотреть ролик на ошибки; но зачем? Пипл хавает
Кстати, Могилко ещё и плагиаторша.
Пару лет назад мне на RUclips попалось видео Айше Борсеитовой, какой-то урок по английскому. И, буквально через пару дней, у Могилко выходит похожее, почти один-в-один, видео.
А Вы говорите - "качество"..
Имидж ничто, бабло всё ! Переключайтесь на нейтивов с уровня intermediate - сейчас уж грешно жаловаться с таким кол-во интернет ресурсов для выбора. А так да, надо тролить и щемить аргументированно таких низкопробных училок - закладывают в неокрепшие умы неверные паттерны английского.
Она ютьюбер, она не учитель.
@@Hadorn_in_London поэтому она не должна учить
Hi Lisa, you have been doing an excellent job sharing your helpful videos videos, keep doing it in the same way. I appreciate your work!
Came across your channel yesterday. I was unaware that Hadar was bashing your videos; sort of disappointed in Hadar now. You guys are truly the best and I admire your knowledge and professionalism!
Более того на своих курсах по ютубу и в своих соцсетях она учит всех не ждать получения образования, не разбираться в предмете, а начинать продавать воздух, снимать видео по предмету, в котором не разобрался и продавать это людям, чему она и учит на своём новом курсе по маркетингу
Никакой сущности, один энтузиазм и громкие слова с её стороны.
#ожиданно
Never mind guys. Hadar is an atomic feminist. You are doing good for whole community
I was surprised when she started using the gender card. Disappointing. I never subscribed to her channel but I had watched a few of her videos
100% Alexander you’re right.
Because they don’t have other cards, all facts an truth on Liza side
Lisa is the best! I stop watching Marina after I found English for everyone!
Well, thank you for introducing me Marina - such a charismatic girl! Not to be biased for no reason, I have had a quick look through some lessons, and though I am a fluent English speaker, I have found some new interesting expressions for me. I also observed some minor errors, like comma missing before too, for instance. What can I say: 1. Marina is not making her "courses" or writing the phrases for the dialogues, etc. The team and outsourced people do this. It is obvious. She is a media person, a face to attract. 2. Any language book issued not by natives formally educated in the field will have errors and drawbacks. I have seen plenty of them, none was perfect. However, I cannot say they were useless. One should be prepared to take such books and courses with a pinch of sault.
Next, learning language is possible only through multiple sources, also listening to different native and non-native speakers. If you want to be sure, learn Oxford and Cambridge courses, i.e, those from the country of origin. Any other books and courses are done at best by their publishers, esp. non-natives. This is how English is taught in universities abroad - using Oxford and Cambridge books and thoroughly verified local books which still contain some deficiencies.
What I saw here was the attempt by a course maker to put down the competitor.
Yes, Marina is not perfect and not a native speaker. I would not recommend her courses as a training for entering university or passing TOEFL. But for fun and practice in conversational and listening skills, why not? I would not use it for teaching kids in classes without previous checking. But in general there are lots of cool exercises to use even for teachers.
God, thanks I’ve found your channel and stopped wasting money for Marina’s courses !
Thanks to teachers like Marina I’m still bad in articles because one period I was watching her videos in the very beginning of my journey. It’s much harder to fix the mistakes later on rather than learn correctly since the beginning…
I stand by you, guys. Marina is taking for granted RUclips monetization. RUclips monetized their videos to boost competition among content creators .That way these content creators would make excellent and high-quality videos for everyone. It's a shame that RUclips doesn't seem to be doing anything about this matter and let creators like Marina spread misinformation. This is so unfair to those who really work hard and do their research.
Lisa and Kevin are my best teachers. Thank you for your high quality English lessons
You are very right. It all depends on how you present yourself. We're here to learn what proper English is, and that's what I appreciate. Thanks for your videos.
Наконец то хоть кто-то показывает сколько ошибок делает Марина! Мне кажется что у неё даже нет педагогического образования, но это не было бы проблемой, если бы она не учила миллионы людей неправильному английскому, ведь переучиваться намного сложнее... Марина просто хорошо продает , а это не означает что у неё есть качество.
она никогда и не говорила, что оно у неё есть, что и поражает, в первую очередь. Лично меня она сама по себе отталкивает, неважно, какую инфу несет
@@rjtxnj да, она сама по себе жутко мерзотистая
Ви праві! Маркетинг рулить(
Она инфоцыганка
Она зарабатывает деньги, ей плевать на ошибки)
Лиза, вам не нужно им ничего доказывать, адекватные люди и так все понимают😉 Спасибо за эти видео, Могилко должна или сесть за книги или удалиться из ютьюба со своим «образовательным» каналом! Я одна из тех, у кого ушло много времени переучиваться после того как меня учила одна из таких Могилко. Вы делайте очень полезное дело и никто не в праве закрывать вам рот. Keep it up!❤
As a non-native English speaker (Portuguese is my mother language), I would like to say that I am 56 years old and learned English after the age of 33. As teachers, Kevin and Liza have been doing an amazing job. We all know that on the internet we can find good and bad content. I decided to stick to the ones that help me build my confidence. Thanks, Kevin and Liza for all you have done.
You're doing a great job! :)
👏👏👏
This is a mature response.
FINALLY! SOMEONE DECIDES TO TALK ABOUT THIS SERIOUS AND COMPLICATED SITUATION....THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING !! I really appreciate it.
This is a reliable channel. Watching these videos it's so refreshing and help us increase our confidence.
Liza is a great example. I just knew that she is not a native speaker, but she is a perfect English speaker. That's what learning is all about: correcting mistakes and being grateful for each correction instead of standing the ground and insisting that one's english be correct, even though it is blatantly incorrect. I am on your side, Liza. Two thumbs up.
The video that Hadar made was disgusting, full of false accusations and appealing to cheap moralism to defend something that has no possible defense. Thanks for continuing to make your very useful videos and, especially, for acting as teachers that care about their students, something that both Hadar and Marina should do.
'HOW DARE YOU CRITICISE IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER AN IMMIGRANT WOMAN WHO TEACHES IMPOPER ENGLISH?' That's what it was. I assume this woman is a clown.
Same here!!!
Hadar was so emotional on that video. We are here to learn facts, so she should check her emotions at the door to not fog her mind and make false accusations
Maybe she got a money from Marina; it’s popular strategy
@@katiatall
Quite possible.
Thanks for this video. We might appreciate the grammar of the language in order to preserve it.
Well, people should see this video
Hi Liza and Kevin
You are by far one of the best teachers on RUclips don't give up you are a classy couple, competent and sharp.
You are not arrogant like MARINA and that is an indicator of great and smart persons
I love you gays
God blessed you
Fatiha from SWITZERLAND
As an english learner, I only want to learn correct english. This is the basic principle of learning a new language. Thanks for Kevlin and Liza for guiding us to the right way
I agree with you Liza and Kevin. If Marina is presenting herself as a teacher, she better teach the right way, the right words, right pronunciation of words and phrases. Those two women are just pretentious. They don't care about their viewers, they are more about subscribers and money.
Amazing comment 👏🏻
Yes, both of them just selling their courses, and I think Hadar got a money from Marina
Just marketing, advertising
The type of teachers like Marina called like “info-gypsy” in Russia. They don’t know nothing but make money 🤑
@@katiatallDid Hadar got some money from Marina? I didn't know that.
Какой красивый у вас английский! Я только на фразе, что это не родной язык догадалась, что он не родной!
It's a pleasure to watch a video from a real professional. Videos by Marina and other 'top-bloggers' are based on a non-pleasant insticts. They make people belive that they are not as good until they 'buy another course from Marina'.
Я прожила в США больше 20 лет и получила высшее образование. Марина учит что нельзя говорить “Happy birthday”. Она что бредит? Только так и можно говорить, а не “happy 18-years”. Так вообще никто не говорит, и если вы так скажете, на вас посмотрят как дурака!
She is so fake and obnoxious
As a woman and non native English speaker I also see rude mistakes in Marina’s speaking.
How stupid our feminist fight can be sometimes. Ridiculous.
Thank you, Liza and Kevin, for your outstanding work! I learn a lot every day!
This has nothing to do with feminist ! She want to take this point ( whit native man ) For attacking and indirect accusations of racism
@@mimm2848 But that is precisely what feminists do now, make false accusations.
@@dannyjorde2677 I think u Ve a personal issue with feminist so u Ve this delusion and hallucinations , I suggest to u psychiatrist , will help u a lot 🦉
i don't agree with you
all I've learned much from the linguamarina youtube channel,
I am a french speaker, but because of her I opened an English youtube channel 👉www.youtube.com/@Whereareyoufrom1501👈
@@mimm2848 Learn how to write, then make me a sandwitch. Not necessarily in that order
Totally agree with you!!!!
What a fight! I'm watching and eating popcorn.
3:42 exactly! many people don't understand the difference between an "accent" and a "phonetical error". you need to distinguish between phonemes, even if they are with an accent
I have no idea why Hadar felt the need to mention the gender and race of the native speaker (Kevin) correcting mistakes that another English teacher (Marina) was making, and I am glad you called her on it. Marina is not a victim, she is a businesswoman selling a product on RUclips, and that product has some serious defects. The victims here are Marina's students, who may not know that what they are learning is incorrect. Marina does not just make mistakes, she makes a lot of serious mistakes and she drills her students on them (and charges them money for it). I would actually avoid her classes now that I have listened to her. Making mistakes is fine, teaching mistakes for profit is bad.
You have all our support!
Спасибо большое, Лиза! Вы всё делаете правильно!
You’re doing a great work. Don’t listen to anyone
You’re absolutely right! We who learn English don’t want to learn mistakes!
I was not interested into who was corrected but I liked the videos about the mistake corrections. In my view they are useful for people who are learning English. Many English learners make the same basic mistakes. I hope you will keep making them, even if in the future you decide not to talk about a specific RUclipsr.
Also, thank you for sharing that English is your third language. That’s very encouraging for English learners.
I'am an englisch beginner and I thank you so much for your explanation!
You're great!
I think Marina can learn a lot from you! 🙂
SE TENÍA QUE DECIR Y SE DIJO!! IDOLOSSS, Congratulations Kevin and Liza
😂 me gustó! Siii
... Liza, you're 100% right ... !!!
You both are great teachers!
thank you Liza for setting the record streight..I'm learning english and I don't want learn incorreted english.thank you again..
Thank you Liza for your lessons
Lisa and Kevin are the best teachers. Thank you for your high quality lessons,honesty and competence!!!
LIZA AND KEVIN, YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB BY CORRECTING THE MISTAKES MADE BY MARINA. PLZ CARRY ON!
Hola, Liza, te felicito a ti y a tu compañero profesor, por este maravilloso canal en youtube muy profesional y que gracias a ustedes que dia a dia hacen y dejan en alto la Gramatica Inglesa perfecta, sin ustedes se convertiría en un idioma distorsionado, poco profesional expandido por el mundo y dejando mal el verdadero Native American Speakers y el Orgullo de serlo. Cada vez me intereso por su idioma y ustedes demuestran la elegancia del idioma ingles en America que pone en alto la gramatica y el gentilicio Americano. Un gran saludo y abrazo desde Venezuela.
I like Marina and her energy but your video is on point! As a non-native speaker I haven’t been noticing her mistakes🫣
Kelvin, Lisa you are the best, take my word!
Hi guys, you both are great, keep on making your videos!
Марина: главное широко улыбаться, ошибки не заметят😅
Ахаха
Это Юлия Высоцкая в мире преподавания английского😂
Great, sustainable video👍
It's always going to be very smart and polite to clear mistakes made by someone who is misteaching something, the person who is mistaking should just be humble and thank that one who is correcting her or him.
You are doing a great job! You do it in a respectful and professional manner, with no personal attacks, providing only facts and a lot of useful & correct information for us! I was impressed by the fact that you are a non-native speaker. Stellar work! Thank you for all your efforts!
You are 100% right. Thank you Liza
I absolutely agree with you, Lisa. You guys are the best!
You are great. I prefer follow teachers like You. Thanks
I love your videos keep it up. Let's learn correct English
I'm a native speaker of 🇬🇧 English.
Thank you for making this video. I can't believe some of these people are making so much money teaching "English", when they're unable to speak it correctly themselves.
You have an accent, but you also have prefect pronunciation. Having a foreign accent does not mean that one has to have bad pronunciation. You also have perfect grammar, and are an excellent teacher.
Lastly, I found your video highly entertaining, so I've subscribed (even though I don't need any help with my English). 😊 Good luck in your future endeavours.
Exactly!
@@gee8883 She definitely has an accent, but I am not able to place it. Regardless of her foreign accent, however, she has perfect pronunciation. I was surprised when she said that English was her third language.
I would have zero hesitation in recommending her as an English teacher. Her grammar and syntax are excellent too.
@@gee8883 It's just a tiny one that I can hear as a native speaker of English.
@@gee8883 When I've started to watch this channel, I thought that Liza is either Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian etc. Lately, a Russian youtuber made a video about the conflict and in his video he guessed the same.
@@nevillec5252 I've been living in the USA for almost 37 years and I'm still learning new words, idioms slang etc, I speak American English every day, and my pronunciation is not perfect like liza's, I thought she was a native American English speaker, still I love her channel and I've learned a lot from her and Kevin too, thanks guys for your hard work and dedication at teaching the correct grammar of the American English
Liza, I totally agree with you. 👍
English is not my first language and i’m still learning. talking about Marina, she has made a lot of
grammar mistakes but she speaks English with natural sound , not too slow and smiling broadly with funny gestures that let me to improve my english listening ‘ not boring’ . Some native speaker teachers teach english well both grammar and vocabulary but the way they teach easily boring , especially the way they speak ‘ not naturally.“ Sometimes learning english with funny ways. Although I support “ correct teaching “.
Спасибо большое за такой разбор, с моим небольшим опытом английского мне Могиленко Марина в целом не нравилась своими уроками, приятно понять что не зря!
Take love from Bangladesh. 🇧🇩
Hadar Shemesh has outstanding qualities but that video where she brings up the fact that Kevin is a white male was a huge mistake, and I think she needs to apologize. Bringing gender and ethnicity to the table was a low move because it has nothing to do with the matter.
If someone dares to teach something at least this person must have proper training and have been submitted to official evaluation and certification. In the same way, I absolutely support Liza and Kevin in teaching English in the right way and correcting those who are spreading incorrect information to naive beginners and charging money for that. That is fraud.
I think Hadar mistep in criticizing competent, polite, generous teachers in order to defend an influencer that brings no value to the English learning community. Marina is spreading misinformation that will forever mislead people around the world while she brags how much money she gain doing so.
Thanks for opening our eyes💕💕💕
I love Hadar, she was very helpful in my learning process.
Thank you for sharing!
This is very informative.
Your way of explaining information and getting it across to reader's brain is impressive and really memorable. You are wonderful teachers. Keep doing your job.
We deserve to receive the correct information from the RUclipsr, especially in this case about English lessons. And we should say thank you to Kevin and Liza who have given us the correct information.
RUclips is a free platform where anyone can upload information. It's your job to select good content. No one deserves anything. The world is not there to serve you.
A very good video!!
Thank you for saving us. I hate learning incorrect information. Non native speakers really love you! You’re telling us the truth.
Wow now I know....I even download her videos before.....thank you for this video, very enlightening...
I'm supporting you, Liza and Kevin, you do everything RIGHT. I'm tired of people saying " who has more subscribers is right and the others are just jealous". NOPE. We won't tolerate trash content even if it's successfully sold
Great Job, Liza!!
I subscribed English For Everyone with Liza and Kevin, to avoid mistakes in English.
I am surprised to see Hadar my former teacher..