you can tell me every "spoiler" and it wont matter to me, because nothing is real until I see it in the show, and I will still have the same reaction, it doesn't even really matter what happens in the comics either
Robert Ochoa to be honest I have thought that it could really turn into a soap ophra where it just goes on for years and years with different people, I mean you could really drag this story out and people would watch , its still AMC
In my opinion it already was a failure. So much momentum was built in the S6 finale that ending it off with a revealed death would have made it extremely memorable and shocking. But now after over 6 months the momentum is gone, and there's no emotional weight behind the scene. Now the reaction isn't going to be "oh my god I can't believe they killed him/her!" to "oh, so it was that character this whole time." The only positive aspect behind the cliffhanger was promoting a HUGE amount of speculation among fans, and in doing so, has probably increased TWD's fanbase simply by word of mouth. And honestly the only way they can save their asses is by throwing everyone completely off guard with an unexpected death... Everyone's saying it's Abe and Glenn, and heck even I'm counting on it. But if it ends up being someone like Daryl then that's the only way they could still make it shocking after 6 months. But I doubt it's Daryl, given the dynamic already established with Dwight.
@Big Boss exactly.I'm already bracing myself for the death instead being in shock when it happens.(even if its not abe and glenn) Not saying it wont be a good episode. But it would be like you said "oh my god I can't believe they killed him/her!" to "oh, so it was that character this whole time." what a shame :(
I agree, AMC gets what they deserve because they botched the end of the season 6 so badly. I agree that if it is Abraham and Glen in a double death that is a massive failure for AMC. The way this should have been handled was to show who he beat initially, maybe stop it at the first blow, then bring in season 7 with the whole scene and then the death of the second person,which would have come out of nowhere because nobody was looking for it
Big Boss i feel you! as soon as they put the cliffhanger I stopped caring about who was killed. didnt care about who was picked I just wanted to see a great scene where we see Lucille making contact with someones head instead of off camera bullshit. Im more hyped to see the actual scene than who gets killed because Ive always thought it would be Glenn based on how much of Season 6's story was straight from the books.
SPOILERS: I work for Amc and have decided to leak the premiere so it starts off showing a Shane backstory from season 1 to season 13, then We get a Duane montage, it lasts about 2 hours, and the most important part: Negans kill, Negan kills a new character we get introduced to, his name is AbraGleRyl, a red head Asian with a cross bow
The momentum isn't what we are discussing. It's simply, "has the biggest secret been spoiled MONTHS in advance" which is what we are calling the possible failure.
+Make A Path Presents Hey Ronny, sorry if you've already answered this (I'm still fairly new), but where did you get that bat? Is it from AMC? MacFarland? I'd like to get my hands on one. Really enjoying your Walking Dead talks, keep it up!
Ahh I misunderstood I meant even if it was to be spoiled, I wouldn't call it a disappointment just yet. If the episode delivers Outstandingly, the death being spoiled will not matter in the end.
+Blake Ellis all of spoilers will have the same answers tho.. they said Abe & Glenn but I doubt on glenn. his story is not fuckin over yet, I want him alive and I want amc change the path, not following the comic story
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If Daryl ends up trying to intervene and ends up getting someone else killed, he's going to go from fan favorite to most hated. If he gets Glenn killed I'll be so pissed
+TWDFan2258 I didn't read them intentionally, people love to comment them all over videos. I left this comment to see if other people think the same way I do. I find Daryl intervening and getting Glenn killed absolutely fucking stupid. No one will like Daryl now
I'm pretty involved in the spoiler community. First of all I just want to say that the episode details have been revealed yesterday and are most likely correct. So everyone, be careful about looking at comments for a while. You'll always have dicks spoiling people who don't seek spoilers. I'll also say that to my knowledge, there has been NOTHING done to prevent any spoilers. The 11 deaths, as you know, is pretty debatable. And outside of that? There's nothing. Also on the death rumor... There's no victory for AMC unless it's not either of them, if it's only one of them then they don't fool anyone. If it's only one of the two who dies, there's no surprise that one of the characters die, only surprise that one doesn't die. We already expected two deaths, so if only one of those deaths happen, how does that mean anything because we still knew in the end. You know what I'm saying?
Alan Anzo Nope, those would be people who go out and spoil things for people outside of those communities who don't want to be spoiled. Which by the way, is highly frowned upon by most site owners and the communities. I'm not a piece of shit for simply wanting to know what I should have known months ago. Sorry you feel that way, but I haven't come EVEN CLOSE to doing anything to warrant that title.
Zybatsu I agree with you. Spoiling Sites arent doing anything wrong. its the people who comment it where its not wanted. aka Predictions, Q&A'S and speculation videos.
Meh, don't be hard on Alan. He was probably just spoiled on things that might happen by some people who don't respect other people. It's understandable why he's annoyed. But yeah believe me, not everyone is going to be a dick.
It's pretty much spoiling dead fan page, they said that Glenn and Abe weren't on set so they assumed both died, therefore the theory of a double death spun from that. If it is those two then yes it is a massive fail on AMC's part by not catching these people who want to spoil the secret, they could have taken extra percussion and made it so no one had an idea. But like you said, a majority knows it's Glenn and Abe, I hope there's a curve ball in there because I want to be surpised
I absolutely do hold it against AMC. It was the reason I was upset about the cliffhanger. They deprived us of that 'oh shit' moment of seeing something happen we didn't expect. Imagine if they did a double death in the s6 finale? That would have been one of the hugest moments ever. But now everyone knows and it's just a meh.
Honestly, if they failed on this I'll blame them 100%. I think that with the kind of budget they have, they would be able to keep the secret better. If they did manage to keep it secret this whole time, though, I don't think I'll ever believe spoiling sites again when it comes to TWD.
I just really hate that AMC ended this on a cliff hanger, like of course they won't be able to keep it a secret for 6 months in today's day and age, people are going to either guess it right, or they'll somehow manage to get the info, I would praise AMC if they managed to keep it a secret because of the fact that it's such a huge thing to cliff hang on, and for so long!?
Wait what? Isn't it already spoiled , I've heard back in June and was all the set photos have confirmed it , TWD have failed already was a pointless cliffhanger
I'm not mad at them for not keeping the secret I'm more mad about what the secret is if it's true I feel like 2 deaths is desperate overkill and Abraham dying seems way to premature considering he survived his comic book death, it'll just seem like Denise died for nothing for me.
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I feel like spoilers sites need to be held accountable for blatantly posting spoilers on facebook but then trying to play innoncence while douche canoes go commenting the information all over TWD videos and youtubers comments. They be like "no ones forcing you to come to our site and check spoilers" and im like "bitch what the fuck!!! you got people from your site posting spoilers on youtube?
accountable for some idiots having to destroy the enjoyment of people who don't want to get spoiled? Those people posting obvious spoilers on sites where they don't belong deserve to be punished
have Facebook shut down there FACEBOOK GROUP for releasing private info I know they have a website but if they charged people a suscribtion it would cut back on the amount of people who can just go to Facebook and see all the "spoilers" then bring that information back to youtube,instagram, etc. most of people who spoil our butthurt trolls who wouldnt pay money to spoil the show! especially when there 10 -13 years old and have no way of signing up for a subscription! there our plenty of ways for the spoilers groups to be held accountable! they need to be more responsible and realize that asking people not to spoil the information isnt enough to keep there hands clean!!!! theyre responsible for all spoilers being brought from Facebook to RUclips ! so for me they need to keep,there shit private! !
They should be allowed to say it, yes. But people (as you've admitted) are dicks and spoil it for people who don't want to be spoiled. Unfortunately we can't have TSDF without people spoiling it which is why people want it shut down. Btw your freedom of speech & spoiling analogy is not very fitting.... that's like saying people should be able to make false bomb threats but should not be held accountable for it because they have the right to say whatever they want.
I honestly don't think it matters. It doesn't bother me to know ahead of time who it is. It is about the journey, not the destination. In other words, it is about the story and why it happens, not what happens. Just my opinion though.
They just know where you live out of nowhere? Reminds me of the time when i got this autographed pic of this bodybuilder Ronnie Coleman. I remember seeing the envelope in the mail and im like "wtf? He knows where i live!?" Until now idk how that happened lol
Make A Path Presents Congrats as you seem one person who will love and enjoy "her" for years to come! I'm relatively new to the channel and I enjoy how you support protecting the integrity of the show by not jumping on he spoiler bandwagon and even encourage your viewers (actually you are adamant about doing so) not to post spoilers in the comment section This channel has contributed to me learning so much more about the show and to enjoy a more in depth conversation on many levels for the show and even peak an interest in the comic series as well. Obvious how much prep goes into this channel done purely out of admiration and enjoyment for the show, writers actors all involved with it As a woman there's not but one female friend of mine that I can enjoy sharing thoughts and opinions on the show with regularly. Much respect and appreciation to you! And again much thanks to you for the channel!
I follow spoilers, and I can confirm that for the first 6-8 weeks of filming season, there was definitely less information available. The sets were basically on lock down and those who tried to get photos of the cast and crew on set found it very, very difficult. It got easier around July, as filming approached the mid season finale.
So typically, it's already set up to be a failure because we've HEARD all of the theories already. We're already prepared for it to be anyone from Glen to Maggie to Michonne and on and on. The only surprise would be if Negan drags Carol or Morgan out of the RV but we already know that's not going to happen. We've seen them in the trailer for the new season. So truthfully, Negan could kill any one of them and we're all going to already be prepared for it. It was a HUGE failure of a finale, a huge let down to the fans, and now we've had entirely too long to get used to the idea of it being just about anyone. I'm not real sure people still care enough after that finale. Sorry AMC, I think you'll get a good rating just so people can see who it was, but I also think the season will tank in ratings after that.
I've been expecting a no impact death regardless of who dies. They had someone die at the end of the episode and don't show you who it is, so we had all summer to form theories and speculate, and now practically no death will come as a surprise to us. It successfully created lot of anticipation for the next season, but it ruined the death (or deaths) of whoever is going to die.
I'm 50/50. For example, last season I actively searched for spoilers on Carl losing his eye, because it's such a huge part of the comics and I didn't want to get too excited incase they didn't pursue that idea in the show.
I'm going to try to stay away from spoilers after season 7. I got into spoilers during this summer on RUclips. I'm starting early on staying away from spoilers because in my subscription feed there was a video about a leaked script and I have not clicked it yet. I hate it when people in comments say it is this person but I know that's it's not that person. My sister came over today and said that she thinks Negan killed Aaron or Glenn.
The spoilers pages claim to have an inside source confirming the spoilers. I don't hold it against AMC, I am personally upset at the spoiler community. It's hard to be a part of the "discussion community" (people who make and watch videos like yours) and not have the spoilers thrown in our faces. It's almost unavoidable. I believe AMC cares a lot about their fans.
Just to clarify, when i said the spoilers were "thrown in our faces" I meant people in the comments reveal the spoilers, not you. PS. thanks for all the videos!
The spoiler page on FB most certainly have a mole leaking info, they are always right when it comes to spoiler, if they are right about this one AMC officially have no power to keep spoiler under wraps
Kitty Nicole it was just stupid to delay the kill because if they showed it, the season would end giving the people a shock...Now I don't even care anymore because I know it's glenn and abe....
Skyrim Boss yeah, I think that the cliffhanger lost a lot of the effect that the death would have had. but I don't blame amc not being careful enough for the spoilers being leaked. If it's an inside source they can't much help it.
GeoVaporizer But now that it has aired, we know the leaks were correct. No matter what they tried, they failed. I live near where they film and have visited quite a few times so I can say for certain - unless they go to strictly indoor or studio filming, there's no way they can keep people from seeing what's going on. I'm not one of those people who try to intrude and spoil - I'm going to be respectful of their rules where they are filming - but there are plenty of people who don't feel that way.
I know of the potential spoiler you are mentioning and I must say if AMC changes it up and that spoiler was false I will give them so much credit and praise for surprising us
If that leaked script is real, amc fucked up big time. They made everyone think it was worth the wait, but to make us wait this long just to follow the comic? What the actual fuck? I'm beyond pissed.
I feel like no matter what, when the premiere airs, people are going to bitch about who dies, and say "oh we waited 6 months for this". I am calling it now. I hope not, but knowing some "fans" in twd tv community on the amc channel, it'll probably happen
Excellent video and topic. I do follow spoilers for this show. Never knew what a spoiler was until the S4 mid season finale when I went hunting online for what happened to baby Judith. That search led me to the TSDF page and I love that page. I do not share what I know with people who do not like spoilers. That is just mean. But this is what I have noticed, as many others have, that cliff hanger pissed so many people off, that membership of TSDF has surged. I think that the outcry from fans and critics concerning the cliffhanger shocked AMC and AMC panicked. I don't believe for a second that they filmed everyone in that lineup getting Lucilled. I do think there is a very strong possibility that while filming the premiere they re-filmed part of that lineup scene in order to appease the fans. I don't believe they are using any body doubles or employing any extra security. I believe there are two Lucille victims but I don't think two were the original plan. When that cliffhanger was filmed, I believe there was only going to be the one victim. I think the writers are screwing up badly with their chosen shock value and the gore fest that is about to air. I personally hated that cliffhanger. They built us up and built us up, and then nothing. They do that a lot. I hate unfinished story lines. So yes I think AMC has failed miserably with the cliffhanger and with keeping the premiere a big secret. They brought these problems on themselves. I bet the actors spend a good amount of time shaking their heads when reading scripts. The writing has gone steadily down, IMO, since S5. Epic episodes and horrible episodes. I do agree that the premiere will draw huge numbers. I am more concerned about the aftermath. I think they will lose many many viewers. Because I do follow spoilers, I will not watch the premiere. I don't find that level of brutality, gore and torture to be "entertainment" and I have been a die-hard hard fan since S1. So again, I do believe AMC has failed. And it's a dam shame.
Bethany E I agree with you 100%. I personally hate spoilers; but after that abysmally gimmicky ending to the season 6 finale, I was not going to wait around to find out who the Lucille victim is. After checking TSDF and finding out about the "double deaths," I'm even more pissed at AMC. Not only did they shoot themselves in the foot with the s6 finale but they dug a deeper hole thinking that a double death would make up for it but instead, the "shock value" will backfire on them since almost everyone knows about it. I think you might be right about the ratings. They'll hit big with the premiere episode, but then I think it'll go downhill from there. Hopefully this will wake up the execs at AMC and make them realize that treating the show strictly as a product for marketing will eventually stall out. They need to go back to the drawing board to create compelling stories.
Ronny, I think the AMC/TWD "cliffhanger" scheme was a success in terms of generating a huge amount of interest and debate during the show's hiatus. I became hooked on MAPP and know more about the show/comic than ever before.The best part was when it looked like youtubers were running out of gas and AMC played the copyright card, which fueled people like yourself with a "can't stop me" attitude to up their creativity game and pour it on to the finish line. Thanks Ronny for providing an entertaining TWD experience.
Mike TheGamer well not sure bout a script leak for the first episode but the spoiling dead keep tabs on who is in each episode... so by default after 5 episodes in they realized 2 people were only in episode one.
christy kelly sorry, meant to reply not dislike your comment. just a FYI 1st episode script was leaked on spoiling dead, don't look at it if you don't want it to be spoiled!
Amy Beer to be honest, screw spoiling dead. i want the show to be a surprise, AMC wants it to be a surprise. Spoiling Dead is an overglorified version of the people who comment the Jumpscare times on Markipliers FNAF vids. if you don't want to be scared/shocked/surprised then don't watch. after telling 2 of my friends i couldn't wait for season 7 and I hoped Abraham lives because he's my favorite character, they both just blurted out that spoiling dead says it was Abe and Glenn. I was heartbroken and it made me almost not want to watch it because I was heartbroken at the spoiled loss of my favorite character and the fact that someone would have so little respect for fans who want a surprise that they'd just spoil it like that BECAUSE THEY CAN
I follow spoilers, it is kind of interesting as some things have changed: a lot of studio filming=no spoilers. They've done a lot this year, because there are a lot of interior shots (Kingdom, Hilltop, Alexandria, ect.) Secrets are easier to hide because of that. That said spoilers are out, I will not give any details, but be aware. Also, I feel your attitude from the spoiler community is a bit skewed. The moderators of the website I go to are huge fans and are very sincere. In some cases (not my own) it helps people with anxiety stomach the show and they claim that they couldn't watch the show without them. Everybody has a different attitude, but most of them are not malicious.
Terror Lurker You're not the only one who thinks like that. In my humble opinion, his arc came to an end in season 5. His scenes in season 6 were nothing more than fan service. The long shot of him riding his bike with the herd behind him in First Time Again and him blowing up the pond with the RPG in No Way Out are prime examples. The writers either need to give him material that doesn't feel forced and/or fan servicey or grow some guts and kill him off. I'm holding out hope that he'll be one of the deaths from issue 144 when that finally gets adapted to the show.
twd has been dumbed down and cartoonish since season 5. The dialogue, story line,and cinematography has been reminiscent of bad movie sequels. season 6 finally was the pinnacle of big budget lazy writing. iny miny mighty moe??? what is this geared to now 5yr olds? think i only watch it for the zombies, and even those are getting cliche. has anyone seen an overweight walker? wouldn't they all be half naked or cloths in tatters after 7 yrs of roaming? The writing is pure lazy with no attention to detail in many aspects. i realize its fantasy but it's gotten lame and geared towards kids and selling toys.
It's an adaptation of a comic book, and some of the things from comic book don't translate well to TV shows. Every movie or TV show I've ever seen that's based on comic books has been corny and cliche in many ways, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad. It's easier to appreciate the comic versions than the TV versions. I'd recommend reading the Walking Dead comics over the TV show, it's better in almost every way.
You'e looking too much into it. Just enjoy what they're giving you, rather than disect it all to the point of which you create your own plotholes that lead you to believe what you believe. Anyways... how does Negan reciting Eeny Meeny Miny Moe "gear the show to 5yr olds?" It creates suspense, as it did in the comics. About the zombies being cliche thing- First off, it has not been 7 years; it's only been 2 - 2.5. Secondly, we have seen overweight walkers. Remember the well walker (and zombified Otis, if you count him)? Do you really think people that are walkers on the show would agree to expose their body parts? What about the complications that would bring regarding the characters' sanity and well-being? The only alternative is CGI and you would know how that would turn out if you watched the Season 7 trailer. Plus AMC wouldn't subject to them doing so anyway because of their stupid censorship rules. The writing is not "pure lazy." Considering how deeply you looked into it I figured you would have caught some of the clever things the writers sneak in.
Even if the spoilers turn out to be true, I would still end up enjoying the episode just as much as even if I DIDN'T hear about the spoilers. Either way it will still be a very intense, dramatic and emotional episode because we are losing at least one of our favorite characters. However, I do also believe that AMC should have, and COULD have, tried harder to keep the spoilers hidden until the premier. I guess you can't really blame them, but they should have seen this coming way before they pulled that cliffhanger. All in all, this could have been avoided and it's a bit disappointing, but I strongly believe that AMC will pull it off beautifully, and for that, I stand with and fully support AMC. Anyone else agree?
Ronnie I been watching a lot of your videos over the last several months. I just want to give you a huge shutout because of all you and the high amount if videos that come around but always enjoy listening to. I never got into The Walking Dead until about s4 and binged on it from 1-3 around midway through and had a new appreciation for the franchise. I like your input and always a smile on your face. I just want to say thank you for all that you do.
Here's my feeling on the situation. Regardless of whether or not the death(s) is in fact the leaked info, I will be angry but not turned away. Yes, it's a major screw up for both having the cliffhanger at all, and for letting this get out, but it's not entirely the fault of the producers. As has been made abundantly clear, AMC is responsible for the decision. Will I be disappointed it was ruined? Yes, but I still have hope that no matter who it is, they knock them outta the park.
Sorry but walking dea! It was an extreme failure with them deaths,sorry folks new season thumbs down 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 ill probly even stop watching it now :/ come on football and shameless!!! \,,,/xD
Ronny, almost 100k, great job! Keep it up, I would bet money you will hit 200k before end of season 7. Keep up the hard work, my daughter loves the video's of you and your Daughter. very cute!
The spoilers were spot on. I was hoping they would be wrong. The script leaks were also legit. It did actually ruin any emotional reaction I may have had. It's my own fault though because I read spoilers. Maybe amc will learn to surprise us by not using cliffhangers next time. I don't think there is any way to stop the leaks honestly. Next time, just kill who you are gonna kill in the finale so we have no time to figure it out.
i really hope they're pulling the wool over our eyes and we're all COMPLETELY SHOCKED by who gets lucilled. it'd be really disappointing if i've known who the victims were for MONTHS. amc will get mad respect from me if they duped us with that "leak".
I won't be mad at AMC at all. It's not their fault, it's the "fans". If the spoilers are true, they could have ruined one of the greatest premieres in history.
The "Spoilers" stuff isn't a real spoiler, so much as them guessing. People only claim that the spoilers are true because certain people weren't filming. But the problem is that TSDF said clearly that their prediction of who the victim(s) is(are) was only based on who they saw film not through actual pictures. Not to mention, they could literally trick us with Michonne and Daryl. Michonne is a director and could be directing an episode or 3 in her Walking Dead Clothing. And Daryl might've moved up to being an executive producer for this season while dressed in his leaked image clothing. Not to mention, that the supposed victim(s) were scheduled to film for episode 5 at the hilltop.
Q&A (possible spoilers, but tried to keep from it). Ronnie, I am going to keep spoilers out the best I can and I hope you understand what I mean. Even if this doesn't get in a video idc, I really just want to know what you think. When discussing the "double death" has anyone ever considered that it might not be a double death at all? Let's say that these spoiler sites have observed correctly, does that mean that both have to die? There are more possibilities to answer their speculation that brought them to their conclusion. Coma? Severely injured? Taken hostage? There are many options that could explain an absence on set imo.
Hey, I visited GA back about a week before classes start back this semester and I went to Atlanta and then went to Senoria, when I went they had just normal security guards and nothing more, remember man, they are Filming in a actual real life town. This is hard to do, especially when you can walk up the street in Woodbury, turn around and with some binoculars see everything and everyone in it. I think amc is doing a decent job but could be doing better, I think that they should have left Woodbury and filmed somewhere Alittle more reclusive, so if it's spoiled then I'm going to be mad. I mean seriously, I have about quit caring even who died because of the big gap between the seasons. They truely done the cliffhanger wrong, they have started the decline of the fans wanting to watch the show. If you have any questions please ask and I can send you some pictures of when I was there and some better description behind them all.
hey Ronnie my man. totally agree with you dude I personally hate spoilers. just wanted to say your getting close to that 100k subscribers mark, real excited for you mate you totally deserve it. keep doing what your doing, Peace!!
I asked a friend who's really into the spoiler community for a spoiler free opinion of AMC recording security. she told me she has seen multiple lists of the characters with the corresponding episodes that they filmed on. This includes new characters and the episodes they premiere on. On set photos, and some photos taken by drones. She didn't seem to think much of AMC and their security. It's almost like they didn't even try.
I will be more pissed at the a-hole spoiler groups for leaking the info more than AMC being able to keep it a secret. I am with you. I really hope AMC pulls this off.
I completely agree. All of the "spoilers" and speculations that have been brought up, just came way too easily. Any whack job on set could very easily piece together who most likely got the bat. Why would they threaten spoiling pages with lawsuits if it would be this easy to figure out? I honestly think that AMC would do anything in their power to keep this a secret. And I think they are doing it successfully. Whether it be hiring doubles or hiding people on set , I think we're in for a much bigger surprise. Or at least I hope so. If not, I will be very disappointed.
I hate certain spoilers. I don't mind knowing about new groups/characters (pertaining to WD), but I absolutely HATE finding out who died before I've watched it. With this particular topic (season 7), I'm hoping AMC just did a really good job of putting out false information.
No matter what, people will complain. People always find something to complain about. Awesome episode 1? Let's go back and remind everyone they screwed up with the cliffhanger! Wooo -_-
Ronny I love the walking dead. I subscribe to you and watch your videos. I did not want to be spoiled so this season I chose to not watch some videos if I thought that they may contain some spoiler info. You do a great job not spoiling things. I do not read comments so I won't find anything out. Sunday will be awesome and I can't wait. thanks for all you do.
YEAH it is a huge failure (for AMC) if the death / death's are the same as the spoilers. I'm with you and would love it if the spoilers are wrong. Good Luck AMC !
For me it doesn't matter because I don't fully trust anyone. Even this video is made to ask the question "is what we all believe is real, really real?". The best answer if probably. For me it's. "Hell I don't know. It seems to have the most proof but there are a lot of other theories that make sense." To make this long comment short I don't feel like I know anything. Great video though. This is the first one I've seen of yours and I subscribed.
For me, the cliffhanger destroyed it because so much time has passed that I no longer care. And as soon as we found out who was no longer filming past ep 1, there it was. So it's pretty much been spoiled and ruined either way. The long wait has also weakened Negan to me. I'm not feeling his presence as being more than a big bully now. Whereas, had they shown the full kill/kills, I would have felt he was badass. But now, I'm just like.....eh, whatever. I think the whole thing has been a fail.
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you can tell me every "spoiler" and it wont matter to me, because nothing is real until I see it in the show, and I will still have the same reaction, it doesn't even really matter what happens in the comics either
Harry Henderson Same with me.
Harry Henderson Spoiler Alert
The show is going to end
Robert Ochoa to be honest I have thought that it could really turn into a soap ophra where it just goes on for years and years with different people, I mean you could really drag this story out and people would watch , its still AMC
True, I kinda thought of that too
Well that's a good attitude to have I guess. It got spoiled for me months ago and it kinder sucks. I hate the way AMC have handled the Negan kill.
I can imagine watching the season 7 first episode
Fans reaction: omg!! why AMC!!?
AMC:What? Was the joke that bad?
Negan lmao 😂 so true
Negan: thats my line😞😭😭
Negan we pissing our pants yet....damn rite😨
Negan I don't blame AMC for the cliffhanger leaking. And for doing that stupid shit I'm the first place.
who did you kill you filthy ****
E. He killed the cameraman
In my opinion it already was a failure. So much momentum was built in the S6 finale that ending it off with a revealed death would have made it extremely memorable and shocking. But now after over 6 months the momentum is gone, and there's no emotional weight behind the scene. Now the reaction isn't going to be "oh my god I can't believe they killed him/her!" to "oh, so it was that character this whole time."
The only positive aspect behind the cliffhanger was promoting a HUGE amount of speculation among fans, and in doing so, has probably increased TWD's fanbase simply by word of mouth. And honestly the only way they can save their asses is by throwing everyone completely off guard with an unexpected death... Everyone's saying it's Abe and Glenn, and heck even I'm counting on it. But if it ends up being someone like Daryl then that's the only way they could still make it shocking after 6 months. But I doubt it's Daryl, given the dynamic already established with Dwight.
@Big Boss exactly.I'm already bracing myself for the death instead being in shock when it happens.(even if its not abe and glenn) Not saying it wont be a good episode. But it would be like you said "oh my god I can't believe they killed him/her!" to "oh, so it was that character this whole time." what a shame :(
Big Boss Yes exactly. Great comment.
I agree, AMC gets what they deserve because they botched the end of the season 6 so badly. I agree that if it is Abraham and Glen in a double death that is a massive failure for AMC.
The way this should have been handled was to show who he beat initially, maybe stop it at the first blow, then bring in season 7 with the whole scene and then the death of the second person,which would have come out of nowhere because nobody was looking for it
Big Boss i feel you! as soon as they put the cliffhanger I stopped caring about who was killed.
didnt care about who was picked I just wanted to see a great scene where we see Lucille making contact with someones head instead of off camera bullshit.
Im more hyped to see the actual scene than who gets killed because Ive always thought it would be Glenn based on how much of Season 6's story was straight from the books.
+KMCINSSTFRM I totally agree koodos,, I still love Maggie and co....
SPOILERS:
I work for Amc and have decided to leak the premiere
so it starts off showing a Shane backstory from season 1 to season 13, then We get a Duane montage, it lasts about 2 hours, and the most important part: Negans kill, Negan kills a new character we get introduced to, his name is AbraGleRyl, a red head Asian with a cross bow
Oh and the rest of the episode is filler about Ed and Sophia
Sounds great.
Lenny the Crafter Guy lies
Lenny the Crafter Guy : sounds great can't wait. 😂😂😂
Lenny the Crafter Guy lol I love that character
It will not be a failure, the momentum will be brought back up and mid episode we find out who gets it. Theres also one hell of an unexpected ending
The momentum isn't what we are discussing. It's simply, "has the biggest secret been spoiled MONTHS in advance" which is what we are calling the possible failure.
no... maybe... probably
+Make A Path Presents Hey Ronny, sorry if you've already answered this (I'm still fairly new), but where did you get that bat? Is it from AMC? MacFarland? I'd like to get my hands on one.
Really enjoying your Walking Dead talks, keep it up!
Eager McBeaver custom gift from AMC
Ahh I misunderstood
I meant even if it was to be spoiled, I wouldn't call it a disappointment just yet. If the episode delivers Outstandingly, the death being spoiled will not matter in the end.
Sucks that people spoil things like this:/ ruins the experience for people who don't wanna know
If the spoilers are true
luke brumfield We won't know til sunday
Jared Martin Sunday i thought monday the 24th?
Nope its the 23rd i think can you check?
Jared Martin Oh rly i come from germany i heard 24th maybe we get it 1 day later ?:( thx then I almost missed it xD
I don't share spoilers. Unless someone ask me to tell
good guy
Blake Ellis who died
+Blake Ellis all of spoilers will have the same answers tho.. they said Abe & Glenn but I doubt on glenn. his story is not fuckin over yet, I want him alive and I want amc change the path, not following the comic story
I really hope you're correct, but Steve Yuen has not been "seen" on set for 6 months.. Perhaps they are pros at hiding him.
Blake Ellis who
forget the spoilers, I'm glad there are no ads before mapp videos.
Without ads, I would never have been able to upgrade to a computer that rendered videos quickly. Before, every video took from 3hrs to 9hrs to just render. haha I feel your pain with the ads, but they help the channel a lot!
Joseph Gallegos Come on, you wont die because of few ads, if this channel needs upgrades, it will get them!
Joseph Gallegos i got an ad, what are you talking about
Bro Ads pay the RUclipsr, By the way I got an ad
bruh, i got an add too, but what's this bout getting paid?
If Daryl ends up trying to intervene and ends up getting someone else killed, he's going to go from fan favorite to most hated. If he gets Glenn killed I'll be so pissed
SPOILERS BELOW
Prepare to get pissed then :)
MalySports same I really don't want Glen to die
MalySports stop reading spoilers bitch I know you did
MalySports LOL
+TWDFan2258 I didn't read them intentionally, people love to comment them all over videos. I left this comment to see if other people think the same way I do. I find Daryl intervening and getting Glenn killed absolutely fucking stupid. No one will like Daryl now
"I know this won't get a lot of views." *Has 45k views*
Must be the huge fail I put on the TN haha but I seriously thought I'd stay around 5k-10k with this one.
Make A Path Presents haha well congrats lol
RanchKing 100k now :D
I have the same feeling like Ronny I hate spoilers 😠😠
griff fucking same so many douche bags in his comment sections spoiling it for me and im fucking pissdd
samuel g
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Snape kills Dumbledore
ventuslightning82 lol, this comment was too good hahahahaha
I'm pretty involved in the spoiler community. First of all I just want to say that the episode details have been revealed yesterday and are most likely correct. So everyone, be careful about looking at comments for a while. You'll always have dicks spoiling people who don't seek spoilers.
I'll also say that to my knowledge, there has been NOTHING done to prevent any spoilers. The 11 deaths, as you know, is pretty debatable. And outside of that? There's nothing.
Also on the death rumor... There's no victory for AMC unless it's not either of them, if it's only one of them then they don't fool anyone. If it's only one of the two who dies, there's no surprise that one of the characters die, only surprise that one doesn't die. We already expected two deaths, so if only one of those deaths happen, how does that mean anything because we still knew in the end. You know what I'm saying?
Zybatsu
Just saying, you're a piece of shit for being involved in that particular community.
Alan Anzo Nope, those would be people who go out and spoil things for people outside of those communities who don't want to be spoiled. Which by the way, is highly frowned upon by most site owners and the communities.
I'm not a piece of shit for simply wanting to know what I should have known months ago.
Sorry you feel that way, but I haven't come EVEN CLOSE to doing anything to warrant that title.
Zybatsu I agree with you. Spoiling Sites arent doing anything wrong. its the people who comment it where its not wanted. aka Predictions, Q&A'S and speculation videos.
You can't be that involved, it wasn't spoiled... it was a fan made breakdown by some random named Rocket Sock
Meh, don't be hard on Alan. He was probably just spoiled on things that might happen by some people who don't respect other people. It's understandable why he's annoyed. But yeah believe me, not everyone is going to be a dick.
It's going to be an epic premiere... I just feel it. They cannot let us down after torturing us with that finale 6 1/2 months ago!!!
Oh shit man! that sounds hype!
That's exactly how i picture it! They're gonna do something to make the wait worth it!
I would definitely hold it against AMC if it is that. but if it's not true I will be so happy
Same
It's 2016. It's impossible to keep a secret.
I didn't see a dumpster in the area, so it'll be fine
It's pretty much spoiling dead fan page, they said that Glenn and Abe weren't on set so they assumed both died, therefore the theory of a double death spun from that. If it is those two then yes it is a massive fail on AMC's part by not catching these people who want to spoil the secret, they could have taken extra percussion and made it so no one had an idea. But like you said, a majority knows it's Glenn and Abe, I hope there's a curve ball in there because I want to be surpised
I absolutely do hold it against AMC. It was the reason I was upset about the cliffhanger. They deprived us of that 'oh shit' moment of seeing something happen we didn't expect. Imagine if they did a double death in the s6 finale? That would have been one of the hugest moments ever. But now everyone knows and it's just a meh.
Honestly, if they failed on this I'll blame them 100%. I think that with the kind of budget they have, they would be able to keep the secret better.
If they did manage to keep it secret this whole time, though, I don't think I'll ever believe spoiling sites again when it comes to TWD.
they did.
shout out to Ronnie beard returning for season 7
I just really hate that AMC ended this on a cliff hanger, like of course they won't be able to keep it a secret for 6 months in today's day and age, people are going to either guess it right, or they'll somehow manage to get the info, I would praise AMC if they managed to keep it a secret because of the fact that it's such a huge thing to cliff hang on, and for so long!?
If AMC fails and the premiere is bad, I will Lucille myself live on my youtube channel.
MaxsMovieChannel you said it, now you have to do it
Terror Lurker Lol I hope they do great for my sake
Wait what? Isn't it already spoiled , I've heard back in June and was all the set photos have confirmed it , TWD have failed already was a pointless cliffhanger
It was never spoiled; it's speculation regarding some "evidence" which is who hasn't been spotted on set.
Corsair II Script was made by someone ELSE not AMC
Corsair II you can not say that the script is real it can be true or not but don't say its real and i wonder how the person could leak it
mr reality i don't know about that spoiler. Who dies???
For your best experience, we wont tell you Tudy. Its only 3 days left. Don`t get it spoiled for you.
I'm not mad at them for not keeping the secret I'm more mad about what the secret is if it's true I feel like 2 deaths is desperate overkill and Abraham dying seems way to premature considering he survived his comic book death, it'll just seem like Denise died for nothing for me.
Ronny doesn't like 99 Gaming 😂😂😂
That's because only idiots like 999 clickbait.
thatisatastyburger true
+thatisatastyburger Yes. I don't like them as well. And the videos have no quality. They have made a video, We Hate Negan. They are a joke.
Antonia Wolff Nice profile pic
Seriously 999 gaming is all click bait and ponder way too much likes on their shitty content
I don't give af I want to be spoiled
Same I don't care either way.
NEGAN. But you know who dies tho? Tell me !
NEGAN. yeah but not every 1 is the same as you... iv seen you spoil the shit out of it... is it so hard to have some respect for other fans?
www.thespoilingdeadfans.com/threads/rocket-dogs-unofficially-unofficial-7-1-breakdown.23823/www.thespoilingdeadfans.com/threads/rocket-dogs-unofficially-unofficial-7-1-breakdown.23823/ only click if u want to know
PsyBot yeah read it...now wish i hadnt...hope it is all wrong
I feel like spoilers sites need to be held accountable for blatantly posting spoilers on facebook but then trying to play innoncence while douche canoes go commenting the information all over TWD videos and youtubers comments.
They be like "no ones forcing you to come to our site and check spoilers"
and im like "bitch what the fuck!!! you got people from your site posting spoilers on youtube?
Omg my thoughts exactly
accountable for some idiots having to destroy the enjoyment of people who don't want to get spoiled? Those people posting obvious spoilers on sites where they don't belong deserve to be punished
have Facebook shut down there FACEBOOK GROUP for releasing private info
I know they have a website but if they charged people a suscribtion it would cut back on the amount of people who can just go to Facebook and see all the "spoilers" then bring that information back to youtube,instagram, etc.
most of people who spoil our butthurt trolls who wouldnt pay money to spoil the show! especially when there 10 -13 years old and have no way of signing up for a subscription!
there our plenty of ways for the spoilers groups to be held accountable!
they need to be more responsible and realize that asking people not to spoil the information isnt enough to keep there hands clean!!!! theyre responsible for all spoilers being brought from Facebook to RUclips ! so for me they need to keep,there shit private! !
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They should be allowed to say it, yes. But people (as you've admitted) are dicks and spoil it for people who don't want to be spoiled. Unfortunately we can't have TSDF without people spoiling it which is why people want it shut down. Btw your freedom of speech & spoiling analogy is not very fitting....
that's like saying people should be able to make false bomb threats but should not be held accountable for it because they have the right to say whatever they want.
Been here since 15k...now 90k. Fuck Yeah Ronny. Always great videos. #RoadTo100k
Let me guess........ You think it's going to be a huge failure........
I honestly don't think it matters. It doesn't bother me to know ahead of time who it is. It is about the journey, not the destination. In other words, it is about the story and why it happens, not what happens. Just my opinion though.
Dude love the Lucille bat! How did you get AMC to send you one?
They just sent it. I love it!
They just know where you live out of nowhere? Reminds me of the time when i got this autographed pic of this bodybuilder Ronnie Coleman. I remember seeing the envelope in the mail and im like "wtf? He knows where i live!?" Until now idk how that happened lol
d fernandez no they emailed me
Make A Path Presents Congrats as you seem one person who will love and enjoy "her" for years to come! I'm relatively new to the channel and I enjoy how you support protecting the integrity of the show by not jumping on he spoiler bandwagon and even encourage your viewers (actually you are adamant about doing so) not to post spoilers in the comment section This channel has contributed to me learning so much more about the show and to enjoy a more in depth conversation on many levels for the show and even peak an interest in the comic series as well. Obvious how much prep goes into this channel done purely out of admiration and enjoyment for the show, writers actors all involved with it As a woman there's not but one female friend of mine that I can enjoy sharing thoughts and opinions on the show with regularly. Much respect and appreciation to you! And again much thanks to you for the channel!
I follow spoilers, and I can confirm that for the first 6-8 weeks of filming season, there was definitely less information available. The sets were basically on lock down and those who tried to get photos of the cast and crew on set found it very, very difficult. It got easier around July, as filming approached the mid season finale.
So typically, it's already set up to be a failure because we've HEARD all of the theories already. We're already prepared for it to be anyone from Glen to Maggie to Michonne and on and on. The only surprise would be if Negan drags Carol or Morgan out of the RV but we already know that's not going to happen. We've seen them in the trailer for the new season. So truthfully, Negan could kill any one of them and we're all going to already be prepared for it.
It was a HUGE failure of a finale, a huge let down to the fans, and now we've had entirely too long to get used to the idea of it being just about anyone.
I'm not real sure people still care enough after that finale. Sorry AMC, I think you'll get a good rating just so people can see who it was, but I also think the season will tank in ratings after that.
Absolutely blame AMC because odds are they were the ones pushing for the cliffhanger/ratings.
i already feel like ronnie is going to hate the premier :/
Congrats on over 90,000 subs! Its been nice watching you grow so much since I started following you!
it's not fair because I don't fallow spoilers but this has been unavoidable. totally ruined it for me.
I've been expecting a no impact death regardless of who dies. They had someone die at the end of the episode and don't show you who it is, so we had all summer to form theories and speculate, and now practically no death will come as a surprise to us. It successfully created lot of anticipation for the next season, but it ruined the death (or deaths) of whoever is going to die.
spoilers kind of make me look even more forward to seeing the next episode.
same
same
I'm 50/50. For example, last season I actively searched for spoilers on Carl losing his eye, because it's such a huge part of the comics and I didn't want to get too excited incase they didn't pursue that idea in the show.
I'm going to try to stay away from spoilers after season 7. I got into spoilers during this summer on RUclips. I'm starting early on staying away from spoilers because in my subscription feed there was a video about a leaked script and I have not clicked it yet. I hate it when people in comments say it is this person but I know that's it's not that person. My sister came over today and said that she thinks Negan killed Aaron or Glenn.
SAME
I hope it's just Daryl. That would be the best but the writers are too scared.
The spoilers pages claim to have an inside source confirming the spoilers. I don't hold it against AMC, I am personally upset at the spoiler community. It's hard to be a part of the "discussion community" (people who make and watch videos like yours) and not have the spoilers thrown in our faces. It's almost unavoidable. I believe AMC cares a lot about their fans.
Just to clarify, when i said the spoilers were "thrown in our faces" I meant people in the comments reveal the spoilers, not you.
PS. thanks for all the videos!
The spoiler page on FB most certainly have a mole leaking info, they are always right when it comes to spoiler, if they are right about this one AMC officially have no power to keep spoiler under wraps
Kitty Nicole it was just stupid to delay the kill because if they showed it, the season would end giving the people a shock...Now I don't even care anymore because I know it's glenn and abe....
Skyrim Boss
yeah, I think that the cliffhanger lost a lot of the effect that the death would have had. but I don't blame amc not being careful enough for the spoilers being leaked. If it's an inside source they can't much help it.
I blame AMC. I blamed AMC when they did the cliffhanger at all because I KNEW it would be leaked, and they should have known too.
That is why many propose AMC did know and leaked false information regarding the premiere.
GeoVaporizer But now that it has aired, we know the leaks were correct. No matter what they tried, they failed. I live near where they film and have visited quite a few times so I can say for certain - unless they go to strictly indoor or studio filming, there's no way they can keep people from seeing what's going on. I'm not one of those people who try to intrude and spoil - I'm going to be respectful of their rules where they are filming - but there are plenty of people who don't feel that way.
I know of the potential spoiler you are mentioning and I must say if AMC changes it up and that spoiler was false I will give them so much credit and praise for surprising us
I was just scrolling down my feed thinking... its been a minute since I saw a MAPP video go up.... then boom, this pops up. GG.
Ronny did u get a Lucille from amc like trevschan and if u did will u make a vid on it
If that leaked script is real, amc fucked up big time. They made everyone think it was worth the wait, but to make us wait this long just to follow the comic? What the actual fuck? I'm beyond pissed.
I'm just looking forward to seeing the episode when Rick whoops Negans ass!!!!
I feel like no matter what, when the premiere airs, people are going to bitch about who dies, and say "oh we waited 6 months for this". I am calling it now. I hope not, but knowing some "fans" in twd tv community on the amc channel, it'll probably happen
Excellent video and topic. I do follow spoilers for this show. Never knew what a spoiler was until the S4 mid season finale when I went hunting online for what happened to baby Judith. That search led me to the TSDF page and I love that page. I do not share what I know with people who do not like spoilers. That is just mean. But this is what I have noticed, as many others have, that cliff hanger pissed so many people off, that membership of TSDF has surged. I think that the outcry from fans and critics concerning the cliffhanger shocked AMC and AMC panicked. I don't believe for a second that they filmed everyone in that lineup getting Lucilled. I do think there is a very strong possibility that while filming the premiere they re-filmed part of that lineup scene in order to appease the fans. I don't believe they are using any body doubles or employing any extra security. I believe there are two Lucille victims but I don't think two were the original plan. When that cliffhanger was filmed, I believe there was only going to be the one victim. I think the writers are screwing up badly with their chosen shock value and the gore fest that is about to air. I personally hated that cliffhanger. They built us up and built us up, and then nothing. They do that a lot. I hate unfinished story lines. So yes I think AMC has failed miserably with the cliffhanger and with keeping the premiere a big secret. They brought these problems on themselves. I bet the actors spend a good amount of time shaking their heads when reading scripts. The writing has gone steadily down, IMO, since S5. Epic episodes and horrible episodes. I do agree that the premiere will draw huge numbers. I am more concerned about the aftermath. I think they will lose many many viewers. Because I do follow spoilers, I will not watch the premiere. I don't find that level of brutality, gore and torture to be "entertainment" and I have been a die-hard hard fan since S1. So again, I do believe AMC has failed. And it's a dam shame.
Why would you not watch the premiere just because you know who's going to die? The death isn't the entire episode.
Bethany E Agree with you completely!
Bethany E I agree with you 100%. I personally hate spoilers; but after that abysmally gimmicky ending to the season 6 finale, I was not going to wait around to find out who the Lucille victim is. After checking TSDF and finding out about the "double deaths," I'm even more pissed at AMC. Not only did they shoot themselves in the foot with the s6 finale but they dug a deeper hole thinking that a double death would make up for it but instead, the "shock value" will backfire on them since almost everyone knows about it. I think you might be right about the ratings. They'll hit big with the premiere episode, but then I think it'll go downhill from there. Hopefully this will wake up the execs at AMC and make them realize that treating the show strictly as a product for marketing will eventually stall out. They need to go back to the drawing board to create compelling stories.
Ronny, I think the AMC/TWD "cliffhanger" scheme was a success in terms of generating a huge amount of interest and debate during the show's hiatus. I became hooked on MAPP and know more about the show/comic than ever before.The best part was when it looked like youtubers were running out of gas and AMC played the copyright card, which fueled people like yourself with a "can't stop me" attitude to up their creativity game and pour it on to the finish line. Thanks Ronny for providing an entertaining TWD experience.
Rip Ronny's camera
The Spoiling Dead fans haven't had as much activity as previous years, in my opinion. Less pictures, etc
What if Negan actually kills him self? *mind blown*
The only way this would be a failure if glenn doesn't die or if Maggie doesn't die there's has to be a surprise death .
I'd love it if the spoilers were wrong , , I still love absolutely adore T.W.D,,
I see a lot of spoilers, people saying Glenn and Abe, Maggie, Daryl, nobody really knows so it will still hype me up watching
Bye Guy there are no "spoilers" saying anyone dies other than Abe and Glenn
Everyone knows what happens, the script got leaked and it was spoiled along time ago.
Mike TheGamer well not sure bout a script leak for the first episode but the spoiling dead keep tabs on who is in each episode... so by default after 5 episodes in they realized 2 people were only in episode one.
christy kelly sorry, meant to reply not dislike your comment. just a FYI 1st episode script was leaked on spoiling dead, don't look at it if you don't want it to be spoiled!
Script wasnt leaked. It was a fan made breakdown. 999 gaming is cancer
Tears it was so detailed I had to stop watching. We will finally see this Sunday, can't wait! Good to know the script leak is fake.
Amy Beer to be honest, screw spoiling dead. i want the show to be a surprise, AMC wants it to be a surprise. Spoiling Dead is an overglorified version of the people who comment the Jumpscare times on Markipliers FNAF vids. if you don't want to be scared/shocked/surprised then don't watch. after telling 2 of my friends i couldn't wait for season 7 and I hoped Abraham lives because he's my favorite character, they both just blurted out that spoiling dead says it was Abe and Glenn. I was heartbroken and it made me almost not want to watch it because I was heartbroken at the spoiled loss of my favorite character and the fact that someone would have so little respect for fans who want a surprise that they'd just spoil it like that BECAUSE THEY CAN
I follow spoilers, it is kind of interesting as some things have changed: a lot of studio filming=no spoilers. They've done a lot this year, because there are a lot of interior shots (Kingdom, Hilltop, Alexandria, ect.) Secrets are easier to hide because of that. That said spoilers are out, I will not give any details, but be aware. Also, I feel your attitude from the spoiler community is a bit skewed. The moderators of the website I go to are huge fans and are very sincere. In some cases (not my own) it helps people with anxiety stomach the show and they claim that they couldn't watch the show without them. Everybody has a different attitude, but most of them are not malicious.
I do blame AMC!!
just the fact you got an AMC exclusive lucille gift makes you so much more badass!!!! lol
if they kill daryl dies then you can see a drop in ratings. not too many interesting characters left in the main cast.
alienxmz What? Daryl's like the most uninteresting character on the show. at least that's what I think
alienxmz Daryl has no story and no real purpose
Terror Lurker You're not the only one who thinks like that. In my humble opinion, his arc came to an end in season 5. His scenes in season 6 were nothing more than fan service. The long shot of him riding his bike with the herd behind him in First Time Again and him blowing up the pond with the RPG in No Way Out are prime examples. The writers either need to give him material that doesn't feel forced and/or fan servicey or grow some guts and kill him off. I'm holding out hope that he'll be one of the deaths from issue 144 when that finally gets adapted to the show.
Lindsey C agreed I think that would be devastating. But I think he'll die around all out war. Hoping he gets Nicholas's comic death
to each his own I suppose. I always hear that daryl is a fan favorite. don't really see any other interesting characters except michonne.
I blame AMC if the spoilers are real. I give them props if it's someone completely different!
Yeah, in a way, probably.. They fucked up the ending of S6, thus leading to a fucked up start in S7.
I can't believe the spoilers are almost 100% going to come true now smh.
lovin' the scruff Ronny.....
so hot
Abe is chosen, Daryl & Glenn interfere.. Glenn is shot & Daryl is taken prisoner...
twd has been dumbed down and cartoonish since season 5. The dialogue, story line,and cinematography has been reminiscent of bad movie sequels. season 6 finally was the pinnacle of big budget lazy writing. iny miny mighty moe??? what is this geared to now 5yr olds? think i only watch it for the zombies, and even those are getting cliche. has anyone seen an overweight walker? wouldn't they all be half naked or cloths in tatters after 7 yrs of roaming? The writing is pure lazy with no attention to detail in many aspects. i realize its fantasy but it's gotten lame and geared towards kids and selling toys.
It's an adaptation of a comic book, and some of the things from comic book don't translate well to TV shows. Every movie or TV show I've ever seen that's based on comic books has been corny and cliche in many ways, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad. It's easier to appreciate the comic versions than the TV versions. I'd recommend reading the Walking Dead comics over the TV show, it's better in almost every way.
Matthew G the iny miny moe part is straight from the comics
You'e looking too much into it. Just enjoy what they're giving you, rather than disect it all to the point of which you create your own plotholes that lead you to believe what you believe.
Anyways... how does Negan reciting Eeny Meeny Miny Moe "gear the show to 5yr olds?" It creates suspense, as it did in the comics.
About the zombies being cliche thing-
First off, it has not been 7 years; it's only been 2 - 2.5.
Secondly, we have seen overweight walkers. Remember the well walker (and zombified Otis, if you count him)?
Do you really think people that are walkers on the show would agree to expose their body parts? What about the complications that would bring regarding the characters' sanity and well-being? The only alternative is CGI and you would know how that would turn out if you watched the Season 7 trailer. Plus AMC wouldn't subject to them doing so anyway because of their stupid censorship rules.
The writing is not "pure lazy." Considering how deeply you looked into it I figured you would have caught some of the clever things the writers sneak in.
GeoVaporizer THANK YOU!
I AGREE WITH YOU 100 %!👍🙆😞LOL
Even if the spoilers turn out to be true, I would still end up enjoying the episode just as much as even if I DIDN'T hear about the spoilers. Either way it will still be a very intense, dramatic and emotional episode because we are losing at least one of our favorite characters. However, I do also believe that AMC should have, and COULD have, tried harder to keep the spoilers hidden until the premier. I guess you can't really blame them, but they should have seen this coming way before they pulled that cliffhanger. All in all, this could have been avoided and it's a bit disappointing, but I strongly believe that AMC will pull it off beautifully, and for that, I stand with and fully support AMC. Anyone else agree?
Nice ending😂😂👌
Ronnie I been watching a lot of your videos over the last several months. I just want to give you a huge shutout because of all you and the high amount if videos that come around but always enjoy listening to. I never got into The Walking Dead until about s4 and binged on it from 1-3 around midway through and had a new appreciation for the franchise. I like your input and always a smile on your face. I just want to say thank you for all that you do.
Maggie dies.
Mrs Chic i really hope so.
Casimir Evans if she dies then so will glenn.
Drecyn Dyson yea i believe that
Casimir Evans What? Do you have a soul? She's pregnant and a well written character
Skyrim Boss just because she's pregnant doesn't mean they won't kill her off. they might do it cause you won't expect it.
Here's my feeling on the situation. Regardless of whether or not the death(s) is in fact the leaked info, I will be angry but not turned away. Yes, it's a major screw up for both having the cliffhanger at all, and for letting this get out, but it's not entirely the fault of the producers. As has been made abundantly clear, AMC is responsible for the decision. Will I be disappointed it was ruined? Yes, but I still have hope that no matter who it is, they knock them outta the park.
Sorry but walking dea! It was an extreme failure with them deaths,sorry folks new season thumbs down 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 ill probly even stop watching it now :/ come on football and shameless!!! \,,,/xD
Ronny, almost 100k, great job! Keep it up, I would bet money you will hit 200k before end of season 7. Keep up the hard work, my daughter loves the video's of you and your Daughter. very cute!
The spoilers were spot on. I was hoping they would be wrong. The script leaks were also legit. It did actually ruin any emotional reaction I may have had. It's my own fault though because I read spoilers. Maybe amc will learn to surprise us by not using cliffhangers next time. I don't think there is any way to stop the leaks honestly. Next time, just kill who you are gonna kill in the finale so we have no time to figure it out.
It's going to be super disappointing if amc can keep Morgan's return a secret but can't keep one of the biggest deaths in the comics a secret
i really hope they're pulling the wool over our eyes and we're all COMPLETELY SHOCKED by who gets lucilled. it'd be really disappointing if i've known who the victims were for MONTHS. amc will get mad respect from me if they duped us with that "leak".
I won't be mad at AMC at all. It's not their fault, it's the "fans". If the spoilers are true, they could have ruined one of the greatest premieres in history.
The "Spoilers" stuff isn't a real spoiler, so much as them guessing. People only claim that the spoilers are true because certain people weren't filming. But the problem is that TSDF said clearly that their prediction of who the victim(s) is(are) was only based on who they saw film not through actual pictures.
Not to mention, they could literally trick us with Michonne and Daryl. Michonne is a director and could be directing an episode or 3 in her Walking Dead Clothing. And Daryl might've moved up to being an executive producer for this season while dressed in his leaked image clothing. Not to mention, that the supposed victim(s) were scheduled to film for episode 5 at the hilltop.
I'm with you Ronny I'm hoping they have misled us this whole time and we get a shock of a lifetime when we see the premiere episode.
Q&A (possible spoilers, but tried to keep from it).
Ronnie, I am going to keep spoilers out the best I can and I hope you understand what I mean. Even if this doesn't get in a video idc, I really just want to know what you think.
When discussing the "double death" has anyone ever considered that it might not be a double death at all? Let's say that these spoiler sites have observed correctly, does that mean that both have to die? There are more possibilities to answer their speculation that brought them to their conclusion. Coma? Severely injured? Taken hostage? There are many options that could explain an absence on set imo.
Yes it was a Hugh failure, Everyone knew what was going to happen back in june.
*Negan kills Aaron and Glenn slots into his storyline*
Negan to the fans "What?? Was the joke that bad???" LMAO
Hey, I visited GA back about a week before classes start back this semester and I went to Atlanta and then went to Senoria, when I went they had just normal security guards and nothing more, remember man, they are Filming in a actual real life town. This is hard to do, especially when you can walk up the street in Woodbury, turn around and with some binoculars see everything and everyone in it. I think amc is doing a decent job but could be doing better, I think that they should have left Woodbury and filmed somewhere Alittle more reclusive, so if it's spoiled then I'm going to be mad. I mean seriously, I have about quit caring even who died because of the big gap between the seasons. They truely done the cliffhanger wrong, they have started the decline of the fans wanting to watch the show. If you have any questions please ask and I can send you some pictures of when I was there and some better description behind them all.
hey Ronnie my man. totally agree with you dude I personally hate spoilers. just wanted to say your getting close to that 100k subscribers mark, real excited for you mate you totally deserve it. keep doing what your doing, Peace!!
love the Lucille! I heard the "leak". I don't put much thought into spoilers. I can't wait to just see it myself.
I think there are just too many people involved in a huge production like this to keep it secret that long.
I asked a friend who's really into the spoiler community for a spoiler free opinion of AMC recording security. she told me she has seen multiple lists of the characters with the corresponding episodes that they filmed on. This includes new characters and the episodes they premiere on. On set photos, and some photos taken by drones. She didn't seem to think much of AMC and their security. It's almost like they didn't even try.
I really hope that the spoilers arent true, because if theybare, it feels that amc did not do anything to protect that spoiler from coming out
I will be more pissed at the a-hole spoiler groups for leaking the info more than AMC being able to keep it a secret. I am with you. I really hope AMC pulls this off.
I completely agree. All of the "spoilers" and speculations that have been brought up, just came way too easily. Any whack job on set could very easily piece together who most likely got the bat. Why would they threaten spoiling pages with lawsuits if it would be this easy to figure out? I honestly think that AMC would do anything in their power to keep this a secret. And I think they are doing it successfully. Whether it be hiring doubles or hiding people on set , I think we're in for a much bigger surprise. Or at least I hope so. If not, I will be very disappointed.
I really have been hoping that AMC pulled an epic troll on the spoilers since it first came out
I hate certain spoilers. I don't mind knowing about new groups/characters (pertaining to WD), but I absolutely HATE finding out who died before I've watched it. With this particular topic (season 7), I'm hoping AMC just did a really good job of putting out false information.
No matter what, people will complain. People always find something to complain about. Awesome episode 1? Let's go back and remind everyone they screwed up with the cliffhanger! Wooo -_-
Ronny I love the walking dead. I subscribe to you and watch your videos. I did not want to be spoiled so this season I chose to not watch some videos if I thought that they may contain some spoiler info. You do a great job not spoiling things. I do not read comments so I won't find anything out. Sunday will be awesome and I can't wait. thanks for all you do.
YEAH it is a huge failure (for AMC) if the death / death's are the same as the spoilers. I'm with you and would love it if the spoilers are wrong. Good Luck AMC !
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For me it doesn't matter because I don't fully trust anyone. Even this video is made to ask the question "is what we all believe is real, really real?". The best answer if probably. For me it's. "Hell I don't know. It seems to have the most proof but there are a lot of other theories that make sense." To make this long comment short I don't feel like I know anything. Great video though. This is the first one I've seen of yours and I subscribed.
I would Rather be the Victim than Rather being Negan.
For me, the cliffhanger destroyed it because so much time has passed that I no longer care. And as soon as we found out who was no longer filming past ep 1, there it was. So it's pretty much been spoiled and ruined either way. The long wait has also weakened Negan to me. I'm not feeling his presence as being more than a big bully now. Whereas, had they shown the full kill/kills, I would have felt he was badass. But now, I'm just like.....eh, whatever. I think the whole thing has been a fail.