The city of Nuremberg (also known as Nurnberg) in the German state of Bavaria was selected as the location for the trials because its Palace of Justice was relatively undamaged by the war and included a large prison area. Additionally, Nuremberg had been the site of annual Nazi propaganda rallies; holding the postwar trials there marked the symbolic end of Hitler’s government, the Third Reich.
Actually that's the primary reason Nurnberg was chosen, at least according to US accounts like Justice Jackson. The British were eager to make examples of the defeated Nazis, Churchill even posed the idea of rounding them up & summarily shooting them all.
As a small bit of trivia: They also considered Luxembourg City because it's relatively small and so wouldn't be a statement of power. The Soviets wanted Berlin to be the place where they'd be held. In the end they decided to do the trials in Nuremberg but the official home of the tribunal authorities would be in Berlin.
These trials actually spawned a law that is on german books until today. Since then it is not only *allowed* for any soldier to disobey illegal and/or immoral orders, they are actually *legally compelled* to do so.
@@Sionnach1601 Huh? I mean, I'm not an expert in US law, but I am quite certain that nurses and doctors can decline to adhere to illegal guidelines and/or orders. Who would even have the power to give doctors ANY orders pertaining to patient care? They are ultimately responsible, are they not? Again, I'm german, so I only know the german laws - but here a nurse is not only allowed to refuse illegal orders, she's obliged to do it (if and when she can be expected to know it's illegal).
That's how #Propaganda works! How many history books tell you that Germany recreated Poland during 1916 rather than the French and British at Versailles? All the French and British did at Versailles was expand the German territory given to Poland...to equal the same size as germany....that is ridiculous and egregious
You are not so bright eh? Russians knew the war would begin soon. They did split Poland to keep Germans farther from their border. That's all. Poland is a little thing in WW2. Nobody cared about Poland like Britain or France who had to defend Poland based on agreements.
Don’t forget that stalin did not know Hitler would betray him or know of his hatred for the communitsts and the allies Joined up with the soviets as it was a powerful ally and could help in winning the war
Robin Kummer Signing a non-aggression pact doesn’t make Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union allies. Had they been allies the Soviet Union would’ve entered the war on the side of the Nazis in 1939. There’s a difference between agreeing not to fight each other and having each other’s back.
Yeah I thought that too and the fact that all the British and Americas killed a few million with aerial bombings of cities were not on trial is also weird.
U can't say that every German from this time period would say that. Sure some people who can't think of a better excuse, but the most likely given answer was:,, I'm not a nazi"
Another interesting thing about Karl Dönitz (The Head of the German Navy) is that, his order not to help the survivors of sinking ships was an immediate reacion to something called the "Laconia-incident", where the captain of the German submarine "Laconia" had ordered his men to rescue the survivors and even send messages to British and US-ships about it and the current coordinates of the ship. The US-Navy however completely ignored the rescue and sent bombers to attack the Laconia using said coordinates, as a result the captain of the submarine ordered to abord the mission and stopped the rescue. Due to that reaction of the US, Karl Dönitz gave the order to not rescue survivors onwards.
Honestly they probably let him off for saying something other than “the mustache man made me do it” I would be sick of hearing that over and over for 3 days
I am as impressed with the narrator's flawless german pronunciation, as I am with the high-quality, detailed, and yet succinct nature of this amazing video. Subscribed
The germans killed millions in death camps as if it was a factory business , the gulags , even if they where harsh , didn't kill millions of people , in fact most came out alive
First: This was about making fun about the fact that the Soviets had their own Death Camps with basicly the same function the Concentration Camps had before they were used for the Holocaust. Second: Yes, most came out alive. Yes, Hitler and his Concentration Camps killed more. However, the gulags still killed millions. Though I do have to admit that during my research for proof, I've stumbled on many different counts of "millions". Yet since they all referre to the death toll as "above a million", it's safe to say that it were at least one million who died. "The total figure for the entire Stalinist period is likely between two million and three million." (www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/) "Western scholarly estimates of the total number of deaths in the Gulag in the period from 1918 to 1956 ranged from 1.2 to 1.7 million." (www.britannica.com/place/Gulag) "The result of the analysis is a posterior probability distribution; the obtained posterior 95% credible interval of the number of deaths is (9.7 million, 16.7 million)" (www.jstor.org/stable/2986039?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents)(though given that this came out in 1995, I personally hold it as "less credible" than the other sources)
Marc Magma dude tries to tell you Stalin didn't kill millions 😂 um yeah he most certainly did he actually killed about as much as hitler did due to his power trips and "cleansing" of the country aka taking out anyone that doesn't worship you
Prosecutor: can you describe the camps Nazi: *describes camp* Stalin: WRITE THAT DOWN Churchill: why would you do that Stalin: it's a surprise tool that will help us later
@@williamworth2746 Funny that Stalin and the soviet trash were not better then the Nazis, Both attacked all it's neighbors, Both executed countless of people, Both putted people into concentration camps and worked them to death or just killed. USSR was lucky that Hitler was a psychological imbecile and ended up fighting each other, So it saved their own ass with a nice amount of propaganda hiding the equally soviet cruelty to other nations.
@@Boooooooooo541 Don't worry there's just communist boos thinking they're real commies just because the meme got popular which is stupid, but we might get wooshed..
At the Nuremburg trials. "I am more than aware that my client is responsible for the death of millions, and subjected millions more to torturous conditions. However, one must also account for the fact that my client is simply a Pisces, and according to AstrologyWeekly, they can lose their temper sometimes"
The judge who is secretly a time traveler form the ➕2000s: *ok *throws all other evidence in the trash because she’s an asparagus, the natural friend of pisces**
One of the most important witnesses against the Nazi's was Gen Paulus who explained under oath how the system worked. He had served before being sent to Russia as the High Command's recorder and he spoke with authority and told investigators where certain documents could be located.
Frankly, to hell with killing baby Hitler. Go back in time and convince some rich Viennese art collectors to buy his shitty paintings: moral dilemma solved!
@@khadizaahmed8989 the grandfather paradox assumes several things about the nature of the universe that cannot be tested at this time. Specifically, it assumes that we do not exisit as part of a quantum-multiverse, and that causality can flow both ways through a time travel event. If time moving forward is a fundamental principal of the universe, and not just a product of our perspective, then it is possible that causality could only pass one way through a time travel event, breaking the time line any time a traveler went back in time, and effectively making most paradoxes meaningless. In essence, a time traveler would appear at the moment of their arrival, but the nature of that arrival would disconnect them from their previous existence, due to causality traveling in only one direction. This traveler would have effectively destroyed the previous time line, simply by their existence in the new one. Causality then flow from that moment forward, with no concern for where the time traveler came from. On the other hand, if we are part of a quantum-multiverse, then all possible varients would exisit simultaneously. Under that circumstance, the act of time traveling would create a cascade of new universes, were causality could flow backwards into another universe, thereby defanging the paradox. In that circumstance, since every version of the outcome will exisit, each in its own universe, the only choice we have is, which version of ourselves will we attempt to be? Will it be the version that kills baby Hitler? The one which seeks a non-violent alternative? Or the one who does nothing, unwilling to bear the responsibility of changing history?
"The Germans document everything" As a person living in Germany for 10 years already, sometimes I have to find a copy of some legal/registry document of mine from 9 years ago and that was lost after a moving. I can say that this is also 100% true nowadays. (And I'm glad it is)
There are people in America who are/were imprisoned for selling a drug that is currently legal in their state for longer than the person who ordered slave labour to be used because they said sorry.
Ya? And they should probably be released.... however, now that it is legal doesn't change the fact they broke the law of the time. Nor do you take into considering their past offences. To be fair: I would have executed all these people indicted at Nuremberg.
Some of the worst Nazis that were responsible for thousands of the most brutal murders, experiments and tortures on men, women and children. Were welcomed by the United States of America and lived good lives as University professors or researchers.
@@Rottengoal I mean America has their history of cruel experiments .for both animals and humans. Practically all major HIC’s currently which participated in WW2 have done cruel experiments.
All of those who were sentenced to prison went to the same jail, but after Speer and von Schirach were released in 1966, Hess became the only prisoner there until his suicide.
@@Littlemissdirtbag Keeping Hess to 93 years old as all alone after all prisoners' released in 1966 is an barbarian's treatment in modern day ! Many of the prisoners were released earlier because of their ill health !
Keeping Hess to 93 years old as all alone after all prisoners' released in 1966 was an barbarian's treatment in modern day ! Even Russia wanted to release before his suicide. Many of the prisoners were released earlier because of their ill health !
BVBrocks927 Well that is the American justice system for you. Also the only thing why Dönitz got only ten years was thanks to Chester Nimitz who testified that American subs also didn't pick up crew from sunken ships.
Because the laws of war were only made after the world War 1 and were not yet complete on what the laws are and because they never would have thought to make a law about something they never thought would happen
@@FelipePetersBerchielli The American Justice SYSTEM itself is one of the most fair and just in the world. But the laws that the system has to follow, the corruption of judges (which every justice system to some extent is susceptible to), and most often the corruption of police/prosecution in certain parts of the country leads to most of the failings of it. Rarely is the failure of the American Justice System the fault of the system itself.
@Koehli _ also true. Especially considering the crimes of Stalin and the Soviet Union, and the crimes of non-German nazi proxies in the Baltic, Balkan, and Arab lands that went virtually ignored; not to mention the atrocities committed by imperial Japan and their proxies, the separate Chinese factions committing atrocities against their own people and betraying each other to the Japanese, and many many more crimes that we're ignored at the end of the war; the post-war prosecution was only able to scratch the surface. Still, the Nuremberg trials are very interesting.
They found out he had more evidence that should have given him a life sentence or even a death sentence. He plead guilty to get a lighter sentence, hess basically did the same but admitted he knew what he did and didn't have any regrets life sentence. goring thought he could mock the trial as a hypocritical kangaroo court and he almost beat them at their own game, but the evidence was too great and he was dangerous to be left alive even in prison.
Wow I'm really surprised that these trials only had 24 people prosecuted, I always thought it was hundreds of officials and officers here. I guess it lives large in the memory of history.
There were several other trials, but they had different names. In total hundreds of thousands of people were put on trial ranging from the top all the way to the bottom.
@@HistoryScope So even the most gruesome war crimes committed are given say 10 years in prison. The low ranking officials and soldiers or most who committed war crimes would likely get 2-3 years in prison 🤷♂️
My great grandfather was a guard at the trials, there is a picture that features him in it. it’s strange to think about him being there, hearing all of this while it was happening.
Did he ever speak to you about this in depth ? Or just mentioned he was there. It’s so surreal when you think about how not that long ago this happened Jen I was a kid this felt like forever ago now I realize how little time has passed between now and insane eras
@@musoehcr he himself never really spoke about, he didn’t like talking about the war much. actually, how we found out he was there is the fact that there is a picture with him in it. without us find that we probably never would have known he was there.
H Arz It's true, Ribbentrop should not be hanged, if that was the only crime mentioned in the trial, then what he did was nothing compared to some of the defendents not sentenced to death.
@@HistoryScope Still find it pretty funny how Stalin a man who did more attrocities then most of these men combined sits there and everyone is pretending it didn't happen.
I remember reading about Albert Speer’s son who is himself an architect and they asked him about his dad. He said “it’s like my business partner said to me. Would you have rejected the opportunity to build all the buildings you dreamed to build as an architect?”
If my father was infamous for spending his architectural career building monuments to dictators with slave labor, I would simply not spend my own architectural career building monuments to dictators with slave labor, but what do I know
@@supermemeposting8216 "When you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus.' Or that, 'Virtue was not convenient at the time.' This will not suffice." -King Baldwin IV, Kingdom of Heaven
Soviet official: “How dare you persecute people in camps with forced labor and extermination processes? You are sentenced to death!!!” Meanwhile in Moscow, USSR Stalin: “Hey Beria, how are the Gulags going?”
@@vankhaan9303 Actually in this case no. The Nazis and Americans were in cahoots with each other and funnily enough alot of Nazi commanders memoirs are non-fiction and these were treated as fact until 1991 , where Soviet documentation of Nazi war crimes were released and thus the full scale of the Nazis were known.
My great grandfather was one of the prosecutors , his name was John Lewis , he was friends with Ben ferencz the last living prosecutor of the trials , my grandmother got to see Ben and he was in great health, wishing the best for Ben , and hope you like the info
One thing to remember is the nazis had an incredibly behind the times veiw of politics. Rudolph heß, flew to Scotland, to meet the Duke of Hamilton, because he was under the impression the British still ruled via monarchy, and that Duke could give him an "In" for peace/cooperation. Many of them weren't building the future, but were trying to modernize a backwards past.
@Cosmic Rift If my friend was raping and murdering people in the other room, I would be complicit to the crime because I didn't try to stop it and I did not go to the police. This is very similar to that.
@Lo Fell Dude. While undoubtedly the Italian Communist Party was responsible for rising and organizing many partisan groups, resisting against Fascism was actually the common point between a variety of different political forces (and actually the only thing Italian Communists and Italian Chatolics ever agreed about). The Fascist Party obtained power by maliciously using the loopholes of Italy's democracy, and kept it through violence, segregation and propaganda. There's no doubts that Fascism was a violent dictatorship or that Italian communists participated in the toppling of this violent dictatorship without putting another violent dictatorship in its stead, and gladly accepted Italy becoming a democracy after WWII. Classifying a person or a group as 'good' or 'bad' according to their political label is simplistic, especially when that political label spans several decades and its claimed by tens of different parties and groups with very different end goals in mind. Saying that Italian Communist groups played an important role in liberating their country from oppression, doesn't absolve other Communist groups for the atrocities they committed in the name of their ideology, including later Italian radical communist groups who committed act of terrorism to further their political goals. Viceversa, doing good things in the interest of the common people like establishing a public welfare and retirement system, doesn't absolve Fascism for its crime against humanity during WWII or for later Italian Fascist groups who committed acts of terrorism to further their political goals. We can celebrate good and heroic acts regardless of the political label used by who did them. And killing Fascist leaders was absolutely a good thing to do in Italy in 1945.
@@felinesmite5170 Dude. Now you’re just stating your political opinion. I mean I’m all in for Mussolini to pay the price for what he did to his country in ww2. But killing him without an trial is straight up barbaric. And for the record, he was toppled by his own Fascist party’s members.
@@games-dv3gyno?? If that's the case he should be indicted as well. Killing thousands who most likely were not even aware of what the camps actually did is horrible. You shouldn't commit a second genocide to deal with first
@@Ghostly_writer I was speaking about the high ranks, not basic german soldiers. Now high ranks were totally aware of what they were doing, and fully supported the genoside of ethnical minorities.
lmao Towards the end of the war many of the officers knew they were going to get caught so they prepared to burn all the documents of the atrocities that was related to them and there other friends. Some failed due to them being apprehended by one of the armies
Germans be like „hans, we gonna kill, torture and gas a lot of ppl“ *Looks at hans Hans:“you know what That means“ Peter:“imma use the kamera, Ur writing is better“
I watched the 57 minute documentary about the camps and it is the most gruesome and horrifying thing I've ever and will see. I broke down it in tears when the video ended. R.i.p to all those innocent people who were killed in such brutal ways.
I’m re-watching all of my liked videos starting from the beginning and I’m about halfway through. This video and the video on the Tokyo trials were incredibly interesting and taught me a lot about topics I didn’t know much on.
Stalin: “would you please state for the court how you built and operated your camps? Also, please write it all down here on this piece of paper that I will keep for private use for no reason at all.”
@Fella Truth Close, but these camps and the many imprisonments were put into place and operated under Lenin. Stalin was certainly the worse of the two, but Lenin is undoubtedly responsible for its existence.
@@blauwbeer556 1. Almost all of the prisoners in the gulag were criminals (There were innocent people, but there were very few of them. By the way, there are far more innocent people in Russia today than in "the bloodiest" years of the Soviet regime). 2. Gulag - it's not a camps but a Glavnoye Upravleniye Lagerey, "chief administration of the camps". The government agency in charge of the Soviet network of forced labor camps. 3. In the Gulag, prisoners were paid wages (above the national average, where 1/5 went as a tax to the state). 4. The most difficult year was 1937, which saw "local excesses" thanks to Yezhov (He was shot by the way. Then Beria rehabilitated all innocents in 1940). 5. In the gulag, people worked as drivers, accountants, doctors, locksmiths, etc. They not only dragged stones and worked in the mines, lol. It was the innocent who were imprisoned in the Nazi camps. Not only criminals, not war criminals, but ordinary people. You shouldn't compare two completely different things if you don't know how it really was.
@@IgorCoolikov there were definitely innocent people in there but I think that was during and a little after the purge, plus I was talking about how hospital it was, not if it was morally correct
@@aldoushuxley5953 I know I was just listing the atrocities that came to my head at that moment, I was trying to think of some entente ones but couldn't think of any
There was actually some uncomfortable conversations in London and Paris in 1989-90 regarding German reunification. It was significant enough that the West German chancellor bypassed the UK and France and initially told the US and USSR.
My father,who passed 2 months ago, was a guard in the courthouse in 1946. I wish I could get more information or better photos of the guards. I’d like to see a photo of him in his younger days while performing his duty at such a historical event.
Lmao this one is really funny, when you think of all the people that technically got away with crimes just because they weren't Nazis it's almost silly.
@@nicolaiandersen1402 ehhh no, in fact most of what western schools teaches we're based on german generals that survived the war, which is why they always blame hitler for the bad decisions in the war, history is written by historians, who use data from both side of the war, if history was written by the winner you would never even heard of things like dresden, those trials didn't include allied generals because how the fuck do you convince your allies to execute their own generals? the reality is that sentencing allied generals was impossible since the allies won, but that is not winners writing history, its winners getting away with the bad stuff they did.
16:48 The sentence “Such as the Soviet Union committed many of the same atrocities but were not put on trial.” Really got me. It shows that the History is written by the victors. Soviets were as guilty as Nazis, but they were the victors.
@@natalijajevtic1585 he is talking about the purges. They were terrible things too. It wasn’t as bad because it wasn’t based on race or religion, but Stalin ordered anyone who was suspected to be working against him to be purged or sent to the gulags which were basically forced labor camps.
@@bluesrike "Do you have a gun to your head and a guarantee that they'll be shot regardless of your actions" Cowards will say they'd never do that. Reality is most people will just follow orders, out of fear or because it's an authoritative figure
I know yall dumb but uh if someone was holding you at gun point would you follow orders? not just you before you say yes, but your family too? Authoratian Governments: Not even once
Excellently put together video with tons of good information. I study WW2 on the Eastern Front and have been for over a decade now. Nuremberg I can say I’m somewhat familiar with, but I wasn’t aware of how Doenitz got off so easy, that his attorney saved his neck. I enjoyed how you sort of jumped all over the place with your facts and stories. Entertaining. Nice work.
This is absolutely fantastic. Brief, but not too brief to just gloss over the important subject. You speak clearly, yet nuanced. And at the same time you summarise excellently what I had 6 hours of university lectures going through.
When you are executed for crimes against humanity that the Soviet Union also committed. Stalin: *Laughs in mustache* no, I would NEVER kill people for their beliefs.
@Brandon Rozman True, but many of the people punished at Nuremberg weren't punished for their part in extermination camps but for their part in the concentration camps using slave labour... like the gulags.
Arjan Wilbie only didn’t work cause they believed the uk were going to invade them first to take resource supplies from the Germans both countries had plans to invade if the other did and when the Germans thought the UK were going to attempt it they invaded first, during that though the uk thought the Germans were sending their navy to the Atlantic to hurt trade and had no intention of invading at that time
@@Jvincent044 Yep, similar story with Norway too, Germany invaded Norway then left a garrison of around 500k men to prevent the UK from threatening German access to Swedish steel among other things. The UK intentionally leaked plans for moving on Norway in order to spread the German forces and supplies more if I remember right.
I watched the video of the camps in Wikipedia, its been over a year since i last remembered crying. That video is indescribable man, God bless all those families whom met that fate.
‘Ok, I need a good lawyer. Wait, what happened to all the good attorneys in Deutschland? Before the war, we had so many good lawyers. What happened to them all?’ 🤦🏼♂️ Scheisse!
@Lo Fell A lot of people write comments without reading through others to check for similar ones in existence. Have done this myself. On popular vids especially, there's a strong chance your thought isn't original.
@@matiasdelapena7521 I was just mentioning the animation in the beginning where Germany's old flag invades Europe. The problem I was pointing out was that he also highlighted Finland, which just meant to me that this video was implying that Adolf put German boots on Finnish soil, which never actually happened. It was purely a Russian v Finland war, completely separate from the other warring parties.
@@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2 Yeah but Finland had an "informal alliance" with the Axis during ww2, invaded the USSR in the eastern front and signed a separate peace treaty
@@matiasdelapena7521 shit is anyone seeing a trend with people taking the enemy of my enemy is my friend to the extreme I'm sure that the finns were not found of Hitler and the allies certainly didnt like stalin meanwhile the axis all realy didn't like each other at all like when Germany kept advisors in China during the Japanese invasions and Hitler being like "ok japan we don't get along but your at the top of your race ok but to Italy yall inferior" and so on and so forth
figures Churchill would dislike it. he put people in concentration camps and committed genocide himself but the victims were people of colors so everyone still considers him a hero.
Oh please, not this nonsense again. I’ll list out some major offences of Churchill to save you the trouble: - Famine in India, but he still wants them to ship food to Europe - Gallipoli Campaign - Gas used against Iraq Now tell me when he organised concentration camps, darling?
The gas used was tear gas, Churchill actually advocated for its use since the other option was bullets. People think it was chlorine or mustard gas, but it wasn't what was used in WWI, it was what is still used by police forces all around the world.
I really enjoy your narration and voice. I don’t like loud noises. Very well explained and calm. Thanks so very much. New subscriber. Already watched 3.
maskence Well, at least they gave Poland a similarly sized piece of Germany in exchange for the part taken by the USSR. I'm unsure how different the current east border of Poland is from the pre-WW1 west border of Russia (back then Poland had no land). It's obviously different from the borders of Poland-Lithuania at it's most powerful.
Churchill did want to declare war on the soviet union to liberate Poland, which was the UK's condition for entering WW2, but not the US's. As such, the US wouldn't back the plan and it was called "Operation Unthinkable", because it wouldn't have worked and just allowed the Soviets to take over the rest of Europe by creating another war.
@Incerthose A. IntoBee It's not that the Allies wanted it, World War 2 was declared on Germany to protect Polish sovereignty so only a free Poland was the acceptable outcome. Giving Poland to the brutal dictator Stalin was a total contradiction for the declaration of war!
Given that the allies just fought a world war, I doubt they saw any political gain at the time in fighting another so soon with a fully charged meat grinder.
Eurasian Lynx many German like that flag cause it reminded them of German were at the height of everything before ww1 and eventually Turing a Reich that thought they could do that again
From the Judgment at Nuremberg movie, that last line at the end: Janning: _"the reason I asked you to come, those people, those millions of people... I never knew it would come to that. You must believe it."_ Judge Haywood: _"Herr Janning... it came to that the first time you sentenced a man to death... you knew to be innocent."_
I *searched for Nuremberg trials* & this video came up. I was learning about *Medical Human Experiments* that are considered unethical because I wanted to make a playlist of such videos. What you have covered here is instrumental in creating an understanding on such unethical & historical topics. Thanks a lot!
One of the people who testified for Admiral Donitz was Admiral Nimitz of the United States Navy. Early in the war, the German U-boats were attempting to follow the existing treaties. However, when some of the U-boats involved in rescue efforts came under fire from Allied forces (which was a violation of those same treaties), Admiral Donitz made the command decision not to sacrifice his men.
@@Cyanide_and_Lonelinesswere they really? Because after Germany was retreating, the slaughter was immense from the USSR. My wife is a Russian and her ancestors and her friends ancestors have kill counts of the thousands just mowing people down due to the vendetta placed on Germany.
I watched about 20 mins of the footage used for evidence, i am a pretty desensitized guy and i was starting to see shit that made me tear up and made me sick
well in that case I would argue it started in 1914 because thats when Hitler joinedt he German army, which led him to be furious when he heard the news of Germany capitulating while he was in hospital from injueries to his eyes from funnily enough a gas attack, that lead him to join the DAP in Munich where he spoke of his disgust to the Weimar politicians
The Japanese invasion of Manchuria was over in a few months. It's a separate war in the run-up to the Second Would War. The Second Sino-Japanese War can be considered the start of WW2 in the East, but arguably it was a separate regional war that took place concurrently to WW2 from 1939, until merging into it after Japan attacked the US and European colonies.
@Félix Sánchez They actually haven't. They recruited former Nazis to serve in the new communistic secret police Stasi. That way they knew they will be loyal and obiedient because they could be killed at any moment for simply being Nazis during the war. Also, they were highly trained and qualified having served in the Nazi war machine. That's why Stasi became even better than KGB over time.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 here's a funny (Though probably fake) story Hitler once threatened Switzerland saying: _"You merely have a small militia comprised of 500,000 men, what would you do if I ordered a million soldiers to invade your country?"_ And the Swiss minister of defense said: *"We'd shoot twice and go home"*
Well, I'm drunk, it's 3 AM and people have been pissing me off, so it's time for a rant! A common complaint I've seen throughout the comment section is that the soviets were guilty of committing exactly the same crimes as some of the people they were prosecuting, implying rank hypocrisy. Yes! You're right! The Soviets, Stalin especially, were VERY guilty of mass-rapes, the Polish occupation, slave labor and using camps. We all know that! We all think it's awful! I at least think they should have had their own trial too! But it was politically impossible! The only people who COULD be tried for their atrocities were the Nazis who had lost. When people constantly go on about the hypocrisy of it all, it makes me think what they want. Should the Nazis not have been tried because it was hypocritical? I Don't think so. I think getting as much justice as was possible was the right thing to do. And seeing as we're still bitching about the hypocrisy of it all 70 years later history was clearly not written by the victor, and plenty of historical condemnation is to be had. I just hate it that people seem to get more caught up in the "They did it too" mindset than in contemplating and learning the lessons about Genocide, War, Mass murder and the frankly indescribable evil perpetrated by the Nazis on trial. About how governments set up conspiracy for evil on that kind of mass scale. I feel people should focus more on the people who were lost than the monsters who inflicted harm: Those people are dead now. We've condemned their memories (NB I know some are still glorified, but I mean we should make sure they're condemned. Stalin's pretty in the shitter in my circles at least). We can't do anything else to them. We can make sure we don't let the victims suffering be in vain by letting it happen again. Another note: I dislike it that some people (you know who you are) keep uttering the Allied war crimes in the same sentence as the Soviets and Nazis. It irritates me because it's an unfair comparison and a false equivalence. The difference between the two is IMO, substantial. The Nazis and later Soviets and institutionalized top to bottom campaigns that were explicitly war crimes and crimes against humanity. Those are their government's fault, and high ranking officials can and should be blamed. In the Allies cases, it was mostly Homo Homini Lupus crimes (Man's a wolf to man, people can be shit essentially). It's a familiar problem that Vietnam vets saw. Troops commit war crimes, government covers it up. If we were talking about government liability for letting troops do awful things, and that all troops need body cams and strict controls, in that context I would rant about the evils of allied soldiers with you all day and night. Fuck any troops that committed war crimes, no matter on which side. But we're not in that context. The context we're in, we're talking about government level mass crimes against humanity. The kind you can try high officials for at, say, A Nuremberg trial! When you bring up allied war crimes, you muddy the water by changing the context and set up a false equivalence between the two sides that simply doesn't exist. No allied commander got orders from Washington to execute German troops and had to go Rommel on them. Stop comparing them and bringing it up. Talk about it somewhere else, before people who don't know the difference start associating the two. Cause then we lose the valuable context needed to have a good conversation about either. It becomes impossible because people lose the distinction and are no longer having the same conversation. It's why having a good debate in the internet is like finding rooster teeth. Too much random crap gets thrown in and muddies the water, killing intelligent discourse. Fuck sake. I feel less angry now. Wake me up tomorrow with water please.
I'm so happy to find a comment like this in an inane thread. Yes the USA and UK comitted war crimes, however their crimes (mainly related to bombing civilian and industrial targets) are not equal to the mass, government organized, genocide of "undesirable" elements in Nazi Germany.
@@leonardodavid2842 I agree with this guy. Less bad =/= not bad. And most of the mass bombing campaigns of the war are so controversial that I'll leave it at that. The original comment was mainly about shades of grey. People love touting about that old phrase, but seems to forget that black and white still exist at both of those spectrum, and thus can be used comparatively.
i watched this video as part of research for an assignment on "evil" in psychology class. when i saw erich raeder at 13:44 i jumped to the edge of my bed. my last name is extremely rare, even in germany. and he looked very similar to my grandfather. my grandfather died a couple of years ago, but i asked my grandmother, and she confirmed that i am indeed related to him. apparently it was kept a secret in the family. besides my grandmother and my grandfather, only my uncle knew about it. if you wanna talk about being wierded out or mind blown, try finding out that you are actually related to the last leader of the third reich, and finding several pictures on the internet of your great grandfather hanging out with Adolf Hitler. what's even more wierd is that the topic of my assignment was primarely about how genetic heritage and cultural influence plays a significant role in human evil. as you can imagine, i'm pretty much having an existential crisis right now.
Dunno seems kinda cool to me in a weird way. I ain't no nazi but it is like learning you are related to Churchill, I don't care what he did to the Indians, it is still kinda cool
Idk I'd feel pretty compelled to marry a Jew and make sure that I expel the evil out of me by doing the opposite of my ancestors. These coincidences leading to your existential crisis is a chance to be better than any of your asshole ancestors.
The translation system they thought of is absolutely brilliant! I had no idea that that was how international legal proceedings are carried out. Edit: spelling
I'm an interpreter and we've never been taught the proper history of simultaneous interpretation in my university. We've only been told something vague like "yeah it'd been used for a while and became widely used when EU was formed". I wish I had known this back then...
The city of Nuremberg (also known as Nurnberg) in the German state of Bavaria was selected as the location for the trials because its Palace of Justice was relatively undamaged by the war and included a large prison area. Additionally, Nuremberg had been the site of annual Nazi propaganda rallies; holding the postwar trials there marked the symbolic end of Hitler’s government, the Third Reich.
Besides that Nuremberg was also the place where the first laws were passed which officially discriminated jews in 1935.
Actually that's the primary reason Nurnberg was chosen, at least according to US accounts like Justice Jackson. The British were eager to make examples of the defeated Nazis, Churchill even posed the idea of rounding them up & summarily shooting them all.
And who said Politicians and Generals had no sense of humor or a taste for irony
As a small bit of trivia: They also considered Luxembourg City because it's relatively small and so wouldn't be a statement of power.
The Soviets wanted Berlin to be the place where they'd be held.
In the end they decided to do the trials in Nuremberg but the official home of the tribunal authorities would be in Berlin.
@@davidneuhoff5455 Nürnberger Rassegesetze
These trials actually spawned a law that is on german books until today. Since then it is not only *allowed* for any soldier to disobey illegal and/or immoral orders, they are actually *legally compelled* to do so.
@@Sionnach1601 Huh? I mean, I'm not an expert in US law, but I am quite certain that nurses and doctors can decline to adhere to illegal guidelines and/or orders. Who would even have the power to give doctors ANY orders pertaining to patient care? They are ultimately responsible, are they not?
Again, I'm german, so I only know the german laws - but here a nurse is not only allowed to refuse illegal orders, she's obliged to do it (if and when she can be expected to know it's illegal).
Yet they didn't
@@QemeH they may be talking about the whole COVID ordeal most conservatives are off their rockers with that shit.
@@musoehcr Not just conservatives. Most channels talking about it are Centrists, Libertarian, and other Third Parties
Isnt murder immoral? Warfare is inherently immoral, cant german soldiers just not fight in a war because its immoral?
It's gotta be so bizarre being sentenced for invading Poland by the same Russians who helped you invade Poland just a few years earlier
That's how #Propaganda works! How many history books tell you that Germany recreated Poland during 1916 rather than the French and British at Versailles? All the French and British did at Versailles was expand the German territory given to Poland...to equal the same size as germany....that is ridiculous and egregious
You are not so bright eh? Russians knew the war would begin soon. They did split Poland to keep Germans farther from their border. That's all. Poland is a little thing in WW2. Nobody cared about Poland like Britain or France who had to defend Poland based on agreements.
Don’t forget that stalin did not know Hitler would betray him or know of his hatred for the communitsts and the allies Joined up with the soviets as it was a powerful ally and could help in winning the war
Robin Kummer Signing a non-aggression pact doesn’t make Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union allies. Had they been allies the Soviet Union would’ve entered the war on the side of the Nazis in 1939.
There’s a difference between agreeing not to fight each other and having each other’s back.
Yeah I thought that too and the fact that all the British and Americas killed a few million with aerial bombings of cities were not on trial is also weird.
High ranking Nazis when shown a picture of Hitler:
I’ve never seen this man in my life
Lmaooooo
But actually every German when asked with a gun that was born before ca. 1936: yeah I´ve seen that guy...
😂😂😂
😂 Waiting for that to be heard locally and soon.
U can't say that every German from this time period would say that. Sure some people who can't think of a better excuse, but the most likely given answer was:,, I'm not a nazi"
Another interesting thing about Karl Dönitz (The Head of the German Navy) is that, his order not to help the survivors of sinking ships was an immediate reacion to something called the "Laconia-incident", where the captain of the German submarine "Laconia" had ordered his men to rescue the survivors and even send messages to British and US-ships about it and the current coordinates of the ship. The US-Navy however completely ignored the rescue and sent bombers to attack the Laconia using said coordinates, as a result the captain of the submarine ordered to abord the mission and stopped the rescue. Due to that reaction of the US, Karl Dönitz gave the order to not rescue survivors onwards.
you mean abort? i got confused.
@@shaansingh6048 Yes, they did abort the rescue due to the US attacking them.
@@Betrunkenes.Huhn. oh alright you said abord in the comment and I thought you meant aboard
Don’t you ever make me side with a Nazi again ya hear
Yeah we aint falling for that oldest trick in the book 😂
My grandfather was one of the interpreters for the US at Nuremburg. He spoke English, Swedish, German, and Russian.
Sheesh
nice
Ayyy I'm swedish. Tell your grandfather, if he's around, TACK för din insats.
@@jontraz5993 deez
@@jabuticaba4003 nuts
"Hans, do we have a Lawyer? They're all dead? How could that have-...oh."
No one get this joke?so underrated!!
Good point. Heart reacted it
Jewish people make great Lawyers.
Karlos1234ify the stereotype is that they do
Many of the SS were lawyers. The ones who created the final solution.
"Sir, these are the Nurnberg trials. Pleading that your client was "based and redpilled" is not an adequate defense for crimes against humanity."
In fairness your honor, what would you do if you were ratio-Ed by a Jew?
Based
“And no, saying they were totally cringe isn’t a good defense to committing mass genocide”
@James A, "He made some mistakes, but who didn't? Life doesn't have an instructions manual"
How can you misspell "Nuremberg"
"i'm sorry"
Speech 100
If it works it works
“I’m sorry for my shitty meme” Reddit Cringe 100
Honestly they probably let him off for saying something other than “the mustache man made me do it” I would be sick of hearing that over and over for 3 days
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK also given that he was only an architect, they probably thought he wasn't that bad compared to what they had seen
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK usa ATF use "we are just following order" as excuse to gas and burn 80 people alive lmao
Speer: “I’m Sorry”
Judges: Damn it!
Phoenix Wright: Gottem again!
Unit 731: "We're sorry?"
U.S. government : "don't apologize"
@@Canadianvoice 😂😂😂
Bro had Saul goodman as a lawyer
@@genericnameuwu8339 it was the navy guy who really had saul goodman
The whole trial:
“The mustache man told me to do it!”
and stalin: write that down, write that down!
Funny isn't it? A lot of them committed suicide b4 being arrested too lol
@@ajhiep4447 He was one of Hitler's most important men. He was basically Hitlers Right Hand. I don't call that innocent.
Really?
pringles ?
I am as impressed with the narrator's flawless german pronunciation, as I am with the high-quality, detailed, and yet succinct nature of this amazing video. Subscribed
Not very good German pronunciation....if you don't believe me ask a German native speaker...😊
@@z3pedro I guess my German is not as great as I thought then! Amazing content, tho
Lol you aren’t German. “Alfredo” even if you learn the language or even if you are born there, one look tells me all I need to know.
@@z3pedro stfu
That's a nasty comment. You should be reported for discrimination. That's is wrong. Learn from the past.
Stalin: "How dare you kill so many people in death camps?"
Also Stalin: "Btw, I need a full list on how you did it. For, uhm, the trials?"
The germans killed millions in death camps as if it was a factory business , the gulags , even if they where harsh , didn't kill millions of people , in fact most came out alive
First: This was about making fun about the fact that the Soviets had their own Death Camps with basicly the same function the Concentration Camps had before they were used for the Holocaust.
Second: Yes, most came out alive. Yes, Hitler and his Concentration Camps killed more. However, the gulags still killed millions. Though I do have to admit that during my research for proof, I've stumbled on many different counts of "millions". Yet since they all referre to the death toll as "above a million", it's safe to say that it were at least one million who died.
"The total figure for the entire Stalinist period is likely between two million and three million." (www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/)
"Western scholarly estimates of the total number of deaths in the Gulag in the period from 1918 to 1956 ranged from 1.2 to 1.7 million."
(www.britannica.com/place/Gulag)
"The result of the analysis is a posterior probability distribution; the obtained posterior 95% credible interval of the number of deaths is (9.7 million, 16.7 million)"
(www.jstor.org/stable/2986039?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents)(though given that this came out in 1995, I personally hold it as "less credible" than the other sources)
Asking for a friend.
Marc Magma dude tries to tell you Stalin didn't kill millions 😂 um yeah he most certainly did he actually killed about as much as hitler did due to his power trips and "cleansing" of the country aka taking out anyone that doesn't worship you
Most of the deaths in the gulags were due to starvation caused by the nazi invasion
Prosecutor: can you describe the camps
Nazi: *describes camp*
Stalin: WRITE THAT DOWN
Churchill: why would you do that
Stalin: it's a surprise tool that will help us later
History is written by the victor
@@williamworth2746 Funny that Stalin and the soviet trash were not better then the Nazis, Both attacked all it's neighbors, Both executed countless of people, Both putted people into concentration camps and worked them to death or just killed.
USSR was lucky that Hitler was a psychological imbecile and ended up fighting each other, So it saved their own ass with a nice amount of propaganda hiding the equally soviet cruelty to other nations.
@@williamworth2746 history is written by the New World of Human Values
@Ethan Weight So true.
@@Boooooooooo541
Don't worry there's just communist boos thinking they're real commies just because the meme got popular which is stupid, but we might get wooshed..
At the Nuremburg trials.
"I am more than aware that my client is responsible for the death of millions, and subjected millions more to torturous conditions. However, one must also account for the fact that my client is simply a Pisces, and according to AstrologyWeekly, they can lose their temper sometimes"
Amazing
Typhus
Underrated comment
Fascinating
The judge who is secretly a time traveler form the ➕2000s:
*ok *throws all other evidence in the trash because she’s an asparagus, the natural friend of pisces**
One of the most important witnesses against the Nazi's was Gen Paulus who explained under oath how the system worked. He had served before being sent to Russia as the High Command's recorder and he spoke with authority and told investigators where certain documents could be located.
Austria started two world wars:
First by attacking Serbia
then not accepting Hitler into art school
@@alexanderedinger What are you talking about Beerus killed the dinosaurs.
Frankly, to hell with killing baby Hitler.
Go back in time and convince some rich Viennese art collectors to buy his shitty paintings: moral dilemma solved!
@@jesseberg3271 actually the WW2 would still happen because of the grandfather paradox!
@@khadizaahmed8989 the grandfather paradox assumes several things about the nature of the universe that cannot be tested at this time. Specifically, it assumes that we do not exisit as part of a quantum-multiverse, and that causality can flow both ways through a time travel event.
If time moving forward is a fundamental principal of the universe, and not just a product of our perspective, then it is possible that causality could only pass one way through a time travel event, breaking the time line any time a traveler went back in time, and effectively making most paradoxes meaningless. In essence, a time traveler would appear at the moment of their arrival, but the nature of that arrival would disconnect them from their previous existence, due to causality traveling in only one direction. This traveler would have effectively destroyed the previous time line, simply by their existence in the new one. Causality then flow from that moment forward, with no concern for where the time traveler came from.
On the other hand, if we are part of a quantum-multiverse, then all possible varients would exisit simultaneously. Under that circumstance, the act of time traveling would create a cascade of new universes, were causality could flow backwards into another universe, thereby defanging the paradox. In that circumstance, since every version of the outcome will exisit, each in its own universe, the only choice we have is, which version of ourselves will we attempt to be?
Will it be the version that kills baby Hitler? The one which seeks a non-violent alternative? Or the one who does nothing, unwilling to bear the responsibility of changing history?
Lunatic Lunala it was actually Serbians that started the wars
"The Germans document everything"
As a person living in Germany for 10 years already, sometimes I have to find a copy of some legal/registry document of mine from 9 years ago and that was lost after a moving.
I can say that this is also 100% true nowadays. (And I'm glad it is)
And...?
@@Sionnach1601 if you know you know, or you can search it.
Sadly no one can help you from here.
Everything but the holocaust apparently.
Why would you live in that horrible country? Germans are evil.
@@phillipp5538 What are you talking about
There are people in America who are/were imprisoned for selling a drug that is currently legal in their state for longer than the person who ordered slave labour to be used because they said sorry.
Ya? And they should probably be released.... however, now that it is legal doesn't change the fact they broke the law of the time. Nor do you take into considering their past offences. To be fair: I would have executed all these people indicted at Nuremberg.
Some of the worst Nazis that were responsible for thousands of the most brutal murders, experiments and tortures on men, women and children.
Were welcomed by the United States of America and lived good lives as University professors or researchers.
@@Rottengoal I mean America has their history of cruel experiments .for both animals and humans. Practically all major HIC’s currently which participated in WW2 have done cruel experiments.
@@fuhrerreicht2413 he's referencing operating paperclip here but you're both right
Lol
All of those who were sentenced to prison went to the same jail, but after Speer and von Schirach were released in 1966, Hess became the only prisoner there until his suicide.
must have been pretty crazy having a bunch of nazis put into a prison. need a sitcom.
@@shaansingh6048 the prison’s wikipedia article goes a bit into the ensuing drama, if you’re interested. I can 1000% see it being a sitcom
I always thought it sounded crazy that he waited decades, even after he was the only prisoner in the prison, to kill himself.
@@Littlemissdirtbag Keeping Hess to 93 years old as all alone after all prisoners' released in 1966 is an barbarian's treatment in modern day ! Many of the prisoners were released earlier because of their ill health !
Keeping Hess to 93 years old as all alone after all prisoners' released in 1966 was an barbarian's treatment in modern day ! Even Russia wanted to release before his suicide. Many of the prisoners were released earlier because of their ill health !
"Sorry about the mass genocide, my bad guys."
"No problem man, it happens to the best of us."
@@comradestalin1211 hello comrade
@@jesusolguin5896 hi Jesus
This comment section lmao
Geneva convention? MORE LIKE GENEVA CRAP
what a joke giving some of these guys 10 years. People in the united states get longer sentences for a little bit of weed
BVBrocks927 Well that is the American justice system for you. Also the only thing why Dönitz got only ten years was thanks to Chester Nimitz who testified that American subs also didn't pick up crew from sunken ships.
that shows how America justice system is one of the worst in existence
What if it was because back then they didn’t have proper rules it was the first time
Because the laws of war were only made after the world War 1 and were not yet complete on what the laws are and because they never would have thought to make a law about something they never thought would happen
@@FelipePetersBerchielli The American Justice SYSTEM itself is one of the most fair and just in the world. But the laws that the system has to follow, the corruption of judges (which every justice system to some extent is susceptible to), and most often the corruption of police/prosecution in certain parts of the country leads to most of the failings of it. Rarely is the failure of the American Justice System the fault of the system itself.
9:36
Nazi guy who committed genocide: I'm sowwy
Judge: okay, that's good enough for me.
well he didnt really do genocide only approved it
@@osomolane4964 fair point... Still, the dude got off really lightly
@Koehli _ also true. Especially considering the crimes of Stalin and the Soviet Union, and the crimes of non-German nazi proxies in the Baltic, Balkan, and Arab lands that went virtually ignored; not to mention the atrocities committed by imperial Japan and their proxies, the separate Chinese factions committing atrocities against their own people and betraying each other to the Japanese, and many many more crimes that we're ignored at the end of the war; the post-war prosecution was only able to scratch the surface.
Still, the Nuremberg trials are very interesting.
They found out he had more evidence that should have given him a life sentence or even a death sentence. He plead guilty to get a lighter sentence, hess basically did the same but admitted he knew what he did and didn't have any regrets life sentence. goring thought he could mock the trial as a hypocritical kangaroo court and he almost beat them at their own game, but the evidence was too great and he was dangerous to be left alive even in prison.
Hey, what happened to that response I left Koehli? It seems to have disappeared.
Wow I'm really surprised that these trials only had 24 people prosecuted, I always thought it was hundreds of officials and officers here. I guess it lives large in the memory of history.
There were several other trials, but they had different names. In total hundreds of thousands of people were put on trial ranging from the top all the way to the bottom.
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i think this puts it into scope how important these people were
The high ranking Nazi wasn’t on trail because they was in the us or Russia Protected
@@HistoryScope So even the most gruesome war crimes committed are given say 10 years in prison. The low ranking officials and soldiers or most who committed war crimes would likely get 2-3 years in prison 🤷♂️
Me: *bragging about my killstreak*
Everyone else at nuremberg trial:
"shut up stalin"
Lmao 😂
That’s dark
Not ok...
I like your kind of dark! :D
My great grandfather was a guard at the trials, there is a picture that features him in it. it’s strange to think about him being there, hearing all of this while it was happening.
Did he ever speak to you about this in depth ? Or just mentioned he was there. It’s so surreal when you think about how not that long ago this happened Jen I was a kid this felt like forever ago now I realize how little time has passed between now and insane eras
@@musoehcr he himself never really spoke about, he didn’t like talking about the war much. actually, how we found out he was there is the fact that there is a picture with him in it. without us find that we probably never would have known he was there.
@@spectifyydev that’s crazy
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How did an SS guard skip prosecution, I'm curious
You are sentenced to death for making a treaty that gave Stalin half of Poland.
Stalin just whisteling in court.
H Arz It's true, Ribbentrop should not be hanged, if that was the only crime mentioned in the trial, then what he did was nothing compared to some of the defendents not sentenced to death.
@@liuyinchen7644 Indead and sadly he died the slowest of em all
He did a bit more than just signing a treaty. He didn't try to stop any of the atrocities while having the power to do so.
@@HistoryScope Still find it pretty funny how Stalin a man who did more attrocities then most of these men combined sits there and everyone is pretending it didn't happen.
@@HistoryScope I didin't hear you mention that some of the prisioner were beat up for confessions.
I remember reading about Albert Speer’s son who is himself an architect and they asked him about his dad. He said “it’s like my business partner said to me. Would you have rejected the opportunity to build all the buildings you dreamed to build as an architect?”
Albert Speer Jr's last work was the World Cup stadia in Qatar... built by slave labor. Like father like son, I guess.
If my father was infamous for spending his architectural career building monuments to dictators with slave labor, I would simply not spend my own architectural career building monuments to dictators with slave labor, but what do I know
@@TheTrickster923
No you wouldn't lmao
@@supermemeposting8216 "When you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus.' Or that, 'Virtue was not convenient at the time.' This will not suffice."
-King Baldwin IV, Kingdom of Heaven
Soviet official: “How dare you persecute people in camps with forced labor and extermination processes? You are sentenced to death!!!”
Meanwhile in Moscow, USSR
Stalin: “Hey Beria, how are the Gulags going?”
America and Britain: wow someone using our technology
😂
The problem is that The soviet using soviet forced labor while the Germans use soviet forced labor.
@@MaidenLover13 good effort commie
@@ThatCamel104 care to elaborate? Do you have an opinion to state or something?
Some of them simply went to Argentina
To be either killed or captured by the nazi hunters of the isreali mossad
søren Hulemose Not Josef Mengele, the chief doctor of Auschwitz. He died in 1979 having never been put on trial for his horrific experiments
Scottish Jedi what about aloph eichmann he died in 1962 in the isreali gallows
Others like Josef Terboven simply commited suicide days before their trials
@@kingmichealthefirstofroman2278 Eichmann was the only one caught and brought to israel
Stalin: "yes crimes against humanity..we can't have that 👀"
Gulag also
This applies to the USAs Japanese internment camps, the UKs involvement in the Bengali famine and Frances on going oppression in its colonies
This is an another example of 'history written by the victors'.
@@nxthy6978 also applies to the Bataan Death March
@@vankhaan9303 Actually in this case no.
The Nazis and Americans were in cahoots with each other and funnily enough alot of Nazi commanders memoirs are non-fiction and these were treated as fact until 1991 , where Soviet documentation of Nazi war crimes were released and thus the full scale of the Nazis were known.
My great grandfather was one of the prosecutors , his name was John Lewis , he was friends with Ben ferencz the last living prosecutor of the trials , my grandmother got to see Ben and he was in great health, wishing the best for Ben , and hope you like the info
may he rest in piece :(
He died a hero. I feel like holding Nazis accountable is the most honourable thing ever
@@_exolite Holding them accountable for the crimes that never happened while using the show trials to cover up the allied crimes that did happen.
He is now burning in hell, where he belongs!
Perhaps he knew my dad, Walstein Smith (1920-1998)?
"Useful engines follow orders"
-Thomas
I see a man of culture
Thomas the Thermonuclear bomb.
@@boomboone47 no, Thomas the Auschwitz worker
@@rag.animations indeed.
The worst part wasnt the screams, it was the silence, because in the silence I was left alone, alone to contemplate my thoughts.
*Correction to the title : How we punished Axis war criminals
Remeber that the laws of war only apply to the losing side.
I recently changed the title to see if I could improve it... I will take your suggestion under advisement :)
History Scope - I’m glad you do! Thx.
trobert t would you rather we didn’t punish them at all? Or would you have them hang Roosevelt and Stalin along with the others?
Henrique Dias honestly i don’t know.
@@Hsdias i mean roosevelt was already dead at that time?
“I was only following orders.”
My mum if she heard this:
*if your friends told you to jump off a bridge, would you?*
My mum said the same thing so it must be in the mum's "What to tell your kids" book!
My response: *I'd be the one to jump first*
If your friends held you at gunpoint to jump off a bridge, would you?
@@thejummyjum6207 I would give serious thought to changing my friends!
It’s way deeper than that. They were fed constant propaganda years before the war started.
Hess: Tries to make peace, Britain: "and i took that personally"
“Well, show me the laws that say you CAN’T enslave and torture an entire population.”
ayo!?
That should honestly be a universal law, even then that’s basic common sense
@@therealspeedwagon1451 it is.
One thing to remember is the nazis had an incredibly behind the times veiw of politics.
Rudolph heß, flew to Scotland, to meet the Duke of Hamilton, because he was under the impression the British still ruled via monarchy, and that Duke could give him an "In" for peace/cooperation.
Many of them weren't building the future, but were trying to modernize a backwards past.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 tell that to Beligum, France, Britian amd the soviets
"I dIdNt KnOw WhAt ThEy WeRe DoInG"
-High-ranking Nazi who knew what they were doing
yes, because they let it happen
@Cosmic Rift If my friend was raping and murdering people in the other room, I would be complicit to the crime because I didn't try to stop it and I did not go to the police. This is very similar to that.
Porter "iF yOu'Re DepReSsed, JuSt dOn'T Be." That's what your comment was
there are reports of nazi officers who refused to kill innocents and didnt got punished by the regime.
@@BR0984 exactly
Best lawyers they could find, aka the ones they didn't kill
Ye
Jesus CHRIST LOL.
they woulda had nukes too if they hadn't exiled all their best scientists
@@maxkordon They would have anyways in a few more months. "Best" LOL
LOL
This was a marvelous undertaking for the time. Especially the part where they had to consider real time translation for 4 languages.
Germany and Japan: gets heavy war crimes
Fascist Italy: *You guys have war crimes?*
Italian resistance killed Mussolini and the upper echelons of the Fascist Party before the Nuremberg Trials.
@Lo Fell Dude. While undoubtedly the Italian Communist Party was responsible for rising and organizing many partisan groups, resisting against Fascism was actually the common point between a variety of different political forces (and actually the only thing Italian Communists and Italian Chatolics ever agreed about). The Fascist Party obtained power by maliciously using the loopholes of Italy's democracy, and kept it through violence, segregation and propaganda. There's no doubts that Fascism was a violent dictatorship or that Italian communists participated in the toppling of this violent dictatorship without putting another violent dictatorship in its stead, and gladly accepted Italy becoming a democracy after WWII.
Classifying a person or a group as 'good' or 'bad' according to their political label is simplistic, especially when that political label spans several decades and its claimed by tens of different parties and groups with very different end goals in mind.
Saying that Italian Communist groups played an important role in liberating their country from oppression, doesn't absolve other Communist groups for the atrocities they committed in the name of their ideology, including later Italian radical communist groups who committed act of terrorism to further their political goals. Viceversa, doing good things in the interest of the common people like establishing a public welfare and retirement system, doesn't absolve Fascism for its crime against humanity during WWII or for later Italian Fascist groups who committed acts of terrorism to further their political goals.
We can celebrate good and heroic acts regardless of the political label used by who did them.
And killing Fascist leaders was absolutely a good thing to do in Italy in 1945.
Meanwhile evil fascist Spain stayed out of the war. Being neutral.
@@felinesmite5170 Dude. Now you’re just stating your political opinion. I mean I’m all in for Mussolini to pay the price for what he did to his country in ww2. But killing him without an trial is straight up barbaric. And for the record, he was toppled by his own Fascist party’s members.
What did Italy even do? Besides the war what did Benito actually do??
1:53 I love how Stalin was not opposed to the death by order plan. I bet he was like "Guys hear me out, we could just kill them."
He’s probably the man that brought it up 😂
@@musoehcr Yeah 😂
I mean he was right, the amount of crimes was insane.
@@games-dv3gyno?? If that's the case he should be indicted as well. Killing thousands who most likely were not even aware of what the camps actually did is horrible. You shouldn't commit a second genocide to deal with first
@@Ghostly_writer I was speaking about the high ranks, not basic german soldiers. Now high ranks were totally aware of what they were doing, and fully supported the genoside of ethnical minorities.
Prosecution: shit we have no evidence
Germany: don't worry bro we documented all our crimes
Edited: thanks guys for 1k likes
lmao
Towards the end of the war many of the officers knew they were going to get caught so they prepared to burn all the documents of the atrocities that was related to them and there other friends. Some failed due to them being apprehended by one of the armies
Smoort
Did they?
Not even close to reality
Germans be like „hans, we gonna kill, torture and gas a lot of ppl“
*Looks at hans
Hans:“you know what That means“
Peter:“imma use the kamera, Ur writing is better“
I watched the 57 minute documentary about the camps and it is the most gruesome and horrifying thing I've ever and will see.
I broke down it in tears when the video ended.
R.i.p to all those innocent people who were killed in such brutal ways.
if the nazi genocides made you break down in tears, just wait til you find out about communist genocides...
Too bad the rats survived.
It’s all lies were are the bodies were are the ash deposits
I watched it when I was 16. Definitely messed me up a bit.
@@Daveforever yeah some nazis survived
Roosevelt and Churchill: against the executive order of killing.
Stalin: *whistles*
He sounds more Dutch to me.
@@simonh6371 Finally someone who knows common sense
Those people in India just decided to die of hunger because they were bored I guess :'D
@@ihavenosociallifedaddy0253 :O
I have no social life Daddy025 yeah they are the most populated country
"but how could any country consent to such a course of action?"
*Japan and America look around nervously*
23:59-Oh my god, they are killing people based on their religion and race!
00:00- Who the fuck is that black Muslim over there? *silently calling FBI*
Alfredo Spautz Granemann Júnior bruh you tripping dog
> not mentioning ussr
> Or Britain
> Or France
Yeah because American, German and Japan crimes are COMPARABLE... right.
@@Altermerea well America did kill tons of innocent people by bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki
"It's not a warcrime if you are the winner of the way"
---- *Sun Tzu*
Stalin : yes
The victors write the history book
@@notmenotme614 historians write the history book
That's what the US and UK did
"winner of the waY"
I’m re-watching all of my liked videos starting from the beginning and I’m about halfway through. This video and the video on the Tokyo trials were incredibly interesting and taught me a lot about topics I didn’t know much on.
Stalin: “would you please state for the court how you built and operated your camps? Also, please write it all down here on this piece of paper that I will keep for private use for no reason at all.”
*Stalin would later become the villain in the sequel*
@Fella Truth Close, but these camps and the many imprisonments were put into place and operated under Lenin. Stalin was certainly the worse of the two, but Lenin is undoubtedly responsible for its existence.
In a way, the gulags are worse than concentration because you are gonna die faster in concentration camps so that you don't have to suffer as long
@@blauwbeer556 1. Almost all of the prisoners in the gulag were criminals (There were innocent people, but there were very few of them. By the way, there are far more innocent people in Russia today than in "the bloodiest" years of the Soviet regime).
2. Gulag - it's not a camps but a Glavnoye Upravleniye Lagerey, "chief administration of the camps". The government agency in charge of the Soviet network of forced labor camps.
3. In the Gulag, prisoners were paid wages (above the national average, where 1/5 went as a tax to the state).
4. The most difficult year was 1937, which saw "local excesses" thanks to Yezhov (He was shot by the way. Then Beria rehabilitated all innocents in 1940).
5. In the gulag, people worked as drivers, accountants, doctors, locksmiths, etc.
They not only dragged stones and worked in the mines, lol.
It was the innocent who were imprisoned in the Nazi camps. Not only criminals, not war criminals, but ordinary people. You shouldn't compare two completely different things if you don't know how it really was.
@@IgorCoolikov there were definitely innocent people in there but I think that was during and a little after the purge, plus I was talking about how hospital it was, not if it was morally correct
They should have made these rules after WW1.
They kinda tried a little tiny little bit
The Germans did no-no stuff in Belgium and the Ottomans did no-no stuff in Armenia
@@aldoushuxley5953 still not exactly a crime that should go unpunished either
@@aldoushuxley5953 I know I was just listing the atrocities that came to my head at that moment, I was trying to think of some entente ones but couldn't think of any
@@aldoushuxley5953 I wasn't meaning to compare the two on the same levels
Europe in 1945:
*GERMANY*
*WILL*
*BE*
*DIVIDED*
Europe in 1990:
*GERMANY*
*WILL*
*BE*
*UNITED*
Mentality changes
The Germans weren't Nazis anymore
João Jacinto -
We know. It’s a joke.
There was actually some uncomfortable conversations in London and Paris in 1989-90 regarding German reunification. It was significant enough that the West German chancellor bypassed the UK and France and initially told the US and USSR.
@@incendiarybullet3516 no shit.
When the head of the German navy was presented with war crimes he said “haha yeah you guys did that too” and was given a lesser charge.
Funny.
My father,who passed 2 months ago, was a guard in the courthouse in 1946. I wish I could get more information or better photos of the guards. I’d like to see a photo of him in his younger days while performing his duty at such a historical event.
uhhh, sorry to say this but... im pretty sure the Waffen S.S guarded the nuremburg trials
@@bruv2249 there were some, but it was mostly MPs from the various allied nations that guarded it iirc, mainly US MPs
@@bruv2249 Estonian Waffen S.S
So killing 1 person gives you 20 years in prison but 12 million gives you 10?
@Jim McCracken lol
That’s like saying 1 life=24,000,000
@Jim McCracken when millions die*
Each person should be punished for the whole?
oy vey
12:50 "Joachim von Ribbentrop - guilty of building up a treaty of dividing Poland, sentenced to death"
Vyacheslav Molotov: *cha cha real smooth*
They divided Germany. So is it any different
@@iamsearchingforthefiletmignon He was refering to the molotov-ribbentrop pact which was about Germany and Ussr invading and divding Poland in 1939
Lmao this one is really funny, when you think of all the people that technically got away with crimes just because they weren't Nazis it's almost silly.
@@navonmyhand7999 Well... the victors are the ones who write history
@@nicolaiandersen1402 ehhh no, in fact most of what western schools teaches we're based on german generals that survived the war, which is why they always blame hitler for the bad decisions in the war, history is written by historians, who use data from both side of the war, if history was written by the winner you would never even heard of things like dresden, those trials didn't include allied generals because how the fuck do you convince your allies to execute their own generals? the reality is that sentencing allied generals was impossible since the allies won, but that is not winners writing history, its winners getting away with the bad stuff they did.
16:48 The sentence “Such as the Soviet Union committed many of the same atrocities but were not put on trial.” Really got me. It shows that the History is written by the victors. Soviets were as guilty as Nazis, but they were the victors.
@@xevoprime5273 are u ok
@@natalijajevtic1585 he is talking about the purges. They were terrible things too. It wasn’t as bad because it wasn’t based on race or religion, but Stalin ordered anyone who was suspected to be working against him to be purged or sent to the gulags which were basically forced labor camps.
This dude sounds like a german Obi-Wan Kenobi
Many likes this comment has. Not expect it, I did.
History Scope - Avery Thing ok Yoda 🤣
Oh right, Yoda is a different character... My bad :D
History Scope - Avery Thing ive got a bad feeling about this ;d
Damnit, chewy! Get back to Alderaan!
I've seen many documentaries about the atrocities of World War 2 and the Nuremberg Trials, but few are as succinctly presented as this one. Thank you.
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Most common excuse at the trials: “I was just following orders.”
If they said that today, the response would be "If the furher ordered you to shoot your family, friends and/or loved one's, would you?"
It is more psychological rather than a real excuse, somebody tried an experiment to see wtf is happening
@@bluesrike
"Do you have a gun to your head and a guarantee that they'll be shot regardless of your actions"
Cowards will say they'd never do that. Reality is most people will just follow orders, out of fear or because it's an authoritative figure
@@bluesrike true
I know yall dumb but uh
if someone was holding you at gun point would you follow orders?
not just you before you say yes, but your family too?
Authoratian Governments: Not even once
Excellently put together video with tons of good information. I study WW2 on the Eastern Front and have been for over a decade now. Nuremberg I can say I’m somewhat familiar with, but I wasn’t aware of how Doenitz got off so easy, that his attorney saved his neck. I enjoyed how you sort of jumped all over the place with your facts and stories. Entertaining. Nice work.
This is absolutely fantastic. Brief, but not too brief to just gloss over the important subject. You speak clearly, yet nuanced. And at the same time you summarise excellently what I had 6 hours of university lectures going through.
I totally agree
I think every soviet was looking around nervous
'Every soviets'? You mean every allied power?
Of course they were. After all they assisted Hitler and the Nazis to start the war.
Taking that they ended up killing twice as many its probable
Spartan Moreno exactly they were the ones that do the most of the killing and dying
We shouldnt have stopped in Berlin and Tokyo. We should have kept going until the Pacific and European armies met in Siberia.
"Hanz quick the last boat to Argentina is leaving!!"
XD
Nur eine Sekunde, ich muss sicherstellen, dass die Amerikaner nicht wissen, dass wir zuerst die Atombomben gemacht haben
your honor my client was following orders from funny mustache man because he failed to get into artschool
When you are executed for crimes against humanity that the Soviet Union also committed.
Stalin: *Laughs in mustache* no, I would NEVER kill people for their beliefs.
@Brandon Rozman True, but many of the people punished at Nuremberg weren't punished for their part in extermination camps but for their part in the concentration camps using slave labour... like the gulags.
Look at the title of the London Charter, mate. It might be a clue...
Be like Stalin, he kills indescrimantly
@@MoffatLee Gulags never used the same treatments as Nazi did. Why are you so silly guys?
Nazi killed people not for their beliefs but for their nationality
Lmfao
Hitler: Attacks literally everything in reach
Sweden: Lmao why y’all complaining we chilling
Switzerland: bruh just be neutral lmao
The Dutch tried to stay neutral, did not work.
Arjan Wilbie only didn’t work cause they believed the uk were going to invade them first to take resource supplies from the Germans both countries had plans to invade if the other did and when the Germans thought the UK were going to attempt it they invaded first, during that though the uk thought the Germans were sending their navy to the Atlantic to hurt trade and had no intention of invading at that time
@@Jvincent044 Yep, similar story with Norway too, Germany invaded Norway then left a garrison of around 500k men to prevent the UK from threatening German access to Swedish steel among other things. The UK intentionally leaked plans for moving on Norway in order to spread the German forces and supplies more if I remember right.
Spain and Portugal: sleeping peacefully
i took 4 years of history classes in germany talking about ww2 and yet these 17 minutes taugth me a ton of things i did not know. good job
well, you could've just looked it up on wikipedia...
Ezio Auditore 4 years of ww2 lessons in Germany?
These things are just small details who have little to non effects on the big picture. Thats the reason stuff like that isnt thaught in school
You didnt know about the nuremberg trials???
@@timowagner1329 i do but i think he meant stuff like how they defended them selfes
I watched the video of the camps in Wikipedia, its been over a year since i last remembered crying. That video is indescribable man, God bless all those families whom met that fate.
my family members where slaughtered in the holocaust, thank you for the blessings.
‘Ok, I need a good lawyer. Wait, what happened to all the good attorneys in Deutschland? Before the war, we had so many good lawyers. What happened to them all?’
🤦🏼♂️ Scheisse!
Underrated
Send this to Seth macfarland
When you need a good lawyer to defend yourself from accusations of crimes you did during and before the war which killed those good lawyers.
lol that was a good one!
*schweiße, not scheisse
That Wikipedia video has the most disturbing images I've ever even imagined.
@Lo Fell A lot of people write comments without reading through others to check for similar ones in existence. Have done this myself. On popular vids especially, there's a strong chance your thought isn't original.
@Lo Fell ... a are you an andriod
@Lo Fell lmao, I took you for a misguided good Samaritan, clearly just a troll.
@Lo Fell I'm pretty sure your the bot around here
@Lo Fell Is the comment exactly the same character for character? If not then it's no big deal man
imagine having the last name as "Frick". that in itself, is a war crime.
Or Fritz as the first name.
I know a Fricky
Walther Funk:
least his name wasn't baldur
There's a well-known football manager called Argel Fucks
Every German General in Nuremberg
*see's an image if Hitler*
German Generals: *I have never met this man in my life*
*Released in [Insert Year Here] due to ill health*
Then died a few years latter so I think they got the timing of the ill health correct...
SkyZhakarov Sadly true.
@@kushantaiidan you sound like a total moron. Read a textbook. You're an idiot
@@mosherosenthal4321 *you're
weird how they were sentenced to life in prison but released right before they died
Just a quick note: Germany never invaded Finland. The USSR did.
True that, but we are talking about Nuremberg and ww here, not the winter war.
@@matiasdelapena7521 I was just mentioning the animation in the beginning where Germany's old flag invades Europe. The problem I was pointing out was that he also highlighted Finland, which just meant to me that this video was implying that Adolf put German boots on Finnish soil, which never actually happened. It was purely a Russian v Finland war, completely separate from the other warring parties.
@@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2 Yeah but Finland had an "informal alliance" with the Axis during ww2, invaded the USSR in the eastern front and signed a separate peace treaty
@@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2 I mean he did put germans in finland. They even fought against eachother
@@matiasdelapena7521 shit is anyone seeing a trend with people taking the enemy of my enemy is my friend to the extreme I'm sure that the finns were not found of Hitler and the allies certainly didnt like stalin meanwhile the axis all realy didn't like each other at all like when Germany kept advisors in China during the Japanese invasions and Hitler being like "ok japan we don't get along but your at the top of your race ok but to Italy yall inferior" and so on and so forth
Option 2: death sentence for everyone
"This was disliked by Churchill and Roosevelt at that time."
The USSR meanwhile: *Laughs in Option 2*
figures Churchill would dislike it. he put people in concentration camps and committed genocide himself but the victims were people of colors so everyone still considers him a hero.
Oh please, not this nonsense again.
I’ll list out some major offences of Churchill to save you the trouble:
- Famine in India, but he still wants them to ship food to Europe
- Gallipoli Campaign
- Gas used against Iraq
Now tell me when he organised concentration camps, darling?
The gas used was tear gas, Churchill actually advocated for its use since the other option was bullets. People think it was chlorine or mustard gas, but it wasn't what was used in WWI, it was what is still used by police forces all around the world.
USSR was hanging them at the camps before anyone else got there.
@@streamlinedengine Did you literally just say darling? Don’t say that, please. Change your reply. I don’t like your point because of that word.
I really enjoy your narration and voice. I don’t like loud noises. Very well explained and calm. Thanks so very much. New subscriber. Already watched 3.
Funny how the Allies declared war to aide Poland but ended up just giving Poland to the U.S.S.R like they didn't exist.. lol.
Yeah its like they didn''t start the war to help Poland after all, kinda like they had ulterior motives 🤔
maskence Well, at least they gave Poland a similarly sized piece of Germany in exchange for the part taken by the USSR. I'm unsure how different the current east border of Poland is from the pre-WW1 west border of Russia (back then Poland had no land). It's obviously different from the borders of Poland-Lithuania at it's most powerful.
Churchill did want to declare war on the soviet union to liberate Poland, which was the UK's condition for entering WW2, but not the US's. As such, the US wouldn't back the plan and it was called "Operation Unthinkable", because it wouldn't have worked and just allowed the Soviets to take over the rest of Europe by creating another war.
@Incerthose A. IntoBee It's not that the Allies wanted it, World War 2 was declared on Germany to protect Polish sovereignty so only a free Poland was the acceptable outcome. Giving Poland to the brutal dictator Stalin was a total contradiction for the declaration of war!
Given that the allies just fought a world war, I doubt they saw any political gain at the time in fighting another so soon with a fully charged meat grinder.
Stalin: stop stealing my kills!
lol!
I love how often black white red were used!
Ehehehhhhh
Eurasian Lynx many German like that flag cause it reminded them of German were at the height of everything before ww1 and eventually Turing a Reich that thought they could do that again
The red black and white as a very nice touch
Eurasian Lynx they were used as a flag of the German empire in world war 1
From the Judgment at Nuremberg movie, that last line at the end:
Janning: _"the reason I asked you to come, those people, those millions of people... I never knew it would come to that. You must believe it."_
Judge Haywood: _"Herr Janning... it came to that the first time you sentenced a man to death... you knew to be innocent."_
I *searched for Nuremberg trials* & this video came up. I was learning about *Medical Human Experiments* that are considered unethical because I wanted to make a playlist of such videos. What you have covered here is instrumental in creating an understanding on such unethical & historical topics. Thanks a lot!
It only takes one to wonder what he thinks and plans with such information. Oh well
One of the people who testified for Admiral Donitz was Admiral Nimitz of the United States Navy. Early in the war, the German U-boats were attempting to follow the existing treaties. However, when some of the U-boats involved in rescue efforts came under fire from Allied forces (which was a violation of those same treaties), Admiral Donitz made the command decision not to sacrifice his men.
Out of interest, how early in the war was this? It's not a very strong defense if it was Raeder was the one in charge at that time
To be honest both sides of the war were committing war crimes and atrocities. Its just that Germany was committing them on a larger scale
@@FoxLosst the laconia incident is a great example of rescue efforts being violated.
@@Cyanide_and_Lonelinesswere they really? Because after Germany was retreating, the slaughter was immense from the USSR. My wife is a Russian and her ancestors and her friends ancestors have kill counts of the thousands just mowing people down due to the vendetta placed on Germany.
never knew theirr names would be so similar
I watched about 20 mins of the footage used for evidence, i am a pretty desensitized guy and i was starting to see shit that made me tear up and made me sick
Same here.
That should really tell you something fundamental about yourself, and them.
@@desertsane who cares
@Lo Fell the camps were a lot worse in Germany
lol noob
Its kinda funny how the USSR sentenced others for crime against humanity
I'd say WW2 started when the Japanese invaded Manchuria in 1933
Me too. Hence why I added the 'in Europe' part
@@HistoryScope I didn't hear that
I dont know, there was a peace deal after that though. I would consider 1937 the start when the 2nd sino japanese war began
well in that case I would argue it started in 1914 because thats when Hitler joinedt he German army, which led him to be furious when he heard the news of Germany capitulating while he was in hospital from injueries to his eyes from funnily enough a gas attack, that lead him to join the DAP in Munich where he spoke of his disgust to the Weimar politicians
The Japanese invasion of Manchuria was over in a few months. It's a separate war in the run-up to the Second Would War. The Second Sino-Japanese War can be considered the start of WW2 in the East, but arguably it was a separate regional war that took place concurrently to WW2 from 1939, until merging into it after Japan attacked the US and European colonies.
2:03 I'm sure that was Stalin's favorite option out of the three
It was actually the French that suggested it...
@Félix Sánchez They actually haven't. They recruited former Nazis to serve in the new communistic secret police Stasi. That way they knew they will be loyal and obiedient because they could be killed at any moment for simply being Nazis during the war. Also, they were highly trained and qualified having served in the Nazi war machine. That's why Stasi became even better than KGB over time.
To be fair 20-30 million russians died
@@user-fu2pl7jc9j that still makes a lot of sense.
0:45 I love how Switzerland is sitting there untouched
Swiss 🧀 is highly protected
No one would dare to attack Switzerland, they’re too much trouble for what the place is worth
@@therealspeedwagon1451 but not invincible. If Germany won, then Switzerland will fall
@@therealspeedwagon1451 here's a funny (Though probably fake) story
Hitler once threatened Switzerland saying: _"You merely have a small militia comprised of 500,000 men, what would you do if I ordered a million soldiers to invade your country?"_
And the Swiss minister of defense said: *"We'd shoot twice and go home"*
@@shikikankillzone4239 you don’t need much when your country is nothing but mountains which are easy to defend
Speer: oopsie daisy, my bad :(
Judge: it's alright you're good
To be fair 20 years in a prison is wild as a well renowned national socialist
Well, I'm drunk, it's 3 AM and people have been pissing me off, so it's time for a rant!
A common complaint I've seen throughout the comment section is that the soviets were guilty of committing exactly the same crimes as some of the people they were prosecuting, implying rank hypocrisy.
Yes! You're right! The Soviets, Stalin especially, were VERY guilty of mass-rapes, the Polish occupation, slave labor and using camps. We all know that! We all think it's awful! I at least think they should have had their own trial too! But it was politically impossible! The only people who COULD be tried for their atrocities were the Nazis who had lost. When people constantly go on about the hypocrisy of it all, it makes me think what they want. Should the Nazis not have been tried because it was hypocritical? I Don't think so. I think getting as much justice as was possible was the right thing to do. And seeing as we're still bitching about the hypocrisy of it all 70 years later history was clearly not written by the victor, and plenty of historical condemnation is to be had. I just hate it that people seem to get more caught up in the "They did it too" mindset than in contemplating and learning the lessons about Genocide, War, Mass murder and the frankly indescribable evil perpetrated by the Nazis on trial. About how governments set up conspiracy for evil on that kind of mass scale. I feel people should focus more on the people who were lost than the monsters who inflicted harm: Those people are dead now. We've condemned their memories (NB I know some are still glorified, but I mean we should make sure they're condemned. Stalin's pretty in the shitter in my circles at least). We can't do anything else to them. We can make sure we don't let the victims suffering be in vain by letting it happen again.
Another note: I dislike it that some people (you know who you are) keep uttering the Allied war crimes in the same sentence as the Soviets and Nazis. It irritates me because it's an unfair comparison and a false equivalence. The difference between the two is IMO, substantial. The Nazis and later Soviets and institutionalized top to bottom campaigns that were explicitly war crimes and crimes against humanity. Those are their government's fault, and high ranking officials can and should be blamed. In the Allies cases, it was mostly Homo Homini Lupus crimes (Man's a wolf to man, people can be shit essentially). It's a familiar problem that Vietnam vets saw. Troops commit war crimes, government covers it up. If we were talking about government liability for letting troops do awful things, and that all troops need body cams and strict controls, in that context I would rant about the evils of allied soldiers with you all day and night. Fuck any troops that committed war crimes, no matter on which side.
But we're not in that context.
The context we're in, we're talking about government level mass crimes against humanity. The kind you can try high officials for at, say, A Nuremberg trial! When you bring up allied war crimes, you muddy the water by changing the context and set up a false equivalence between the two sides that simply doesn't exist. No allied commander got orders from Washington to execute German troops and had to go Rommel on them. Stop comparing them and bringing it up. Talk about it somewhere else, before people who don't know the difference start associating the two. Cause then we lose the valuable context needed to have a good conversation about either. It becomes impossible because people lose the distinction and are no longer having the same conversation. It's why having a good debate in the internet is like finding rooster teeth. Too much random crap gets thrown in and muddies the water, killing intelligent discourse.
Fuck sake.
I feel less angry now. Wake me up tomorrow with water please.
Here's you glass of water
@@HistoryScope Thanks. Sorry about necro posting. I get particularly wordy when drunk and bored. Good video btw, like your channel.
I'm so happy to find a comment like this in an inane thread. Yes the USA and UK comitted war crimes, however their crimes (mainly related to bombing civilian and industrial targets) are not equal to the mass, government organized, genocide of "undesirable" elements in Nazi Germany.
@@leonardodavid2842 I agree with this guy. Less bad =/= not bad. And most of the mass bombing campaigns of the war are so controversial that I'll leave it at that. The original comment was mainly about shades of grey. People love touting about that old phrase, but seems to forget that black and white still exist at both of those spectrum, and thus can be used comparatively.
there is no equivalence between red army and nazi war crimes in ww2 either, the soviets did not exterminate millions of people in a genocidal invasion
Who else came here after “Thomas was only following orders”
same
@@averagetboihater8357 lol me three
Me four
Me 5
woah, me 6
i watched this video as part of research for an assignment on "evil" in psychology class.
when i saw erich raeder at 13:44 i jumped to the edge of my bed.
my last name is extremely rare, even in germany. and he looked very similar to my grandfather.
my grandfather died a couple of years ago, but i asked my grandmother, and she confirmed that i am indeed related to him.
apparently it was kept a secret in the family. besides my grandmother and my grandfather, only my uncle knew about it.
if you wanna talk about being wierded out or mind blown, try finding out that you are actually related to the last leader of the third reich, and finding several pictures on the internet of your great grandfather hanging out with Adolf Hitler.
what's even more wierd is that the topic of my assignment was primarely about how genetic heritage and cultural influence plays a significant role in human evil.
as you can imagine, i'm pretty much having an existential crisis right now.
Dunno seems kinda cool to me in a weird way. I ain't no nazi but it is like learning you are related to Churchill, I don't care what he did to the Indians, it is still kinda cool
I just imagined it right now and this must be... wierd, scary, mad and exciting (and many more) at the same time...
The only thing to keep in mind is that you control your destiny. It can be up to you to pick up the name that has been kicked in the mud.
Idk I'd feel pretty compelled to marry a Jew and make sure that I expel the evil out of me by doing the opposite of my ancestors. These coincidences leading to your existential crisis is a chance to be better than any of your asshole ancestors.
The translation system they thought of is absolutely brilliant! I had no idea that that was how international legal proceedings are carried out.
Edit: spelling
"I was just following orders"
Pretty much everyone on earth: I don't think so
I'm an interpreter and we've never been taught the proper history of simultaneous interpretation in my university. We've only been told something vague like "yeah it'd been used for a while and became widely used when EU was formed". I wish I had known this back then...
Man... They committed horrible crimes, but dangling for half an hour before dying is rough
Think of it as a temporary suspension of sentence.
I've heard theories that some people pulled some strings and got those executions botched on purpose.
@@dragonmandestructinator2847 i like how you think
lol not long enough. 😂
He just wanted to hang around a little bit longer.
Justice through prosecution, not persecution 2:13
They would've gotten off free if they had said "your honor, it was just a prank bro."
Now I understand Thomas was only following orders. Thank you so much.
Choo choo
During Nuremberg trials
Culprits - "A man with a mustache forced me to do it"
Which moustache
That's a legal defense, no?
Humans are sheep if you was there during the time you would commit the same crimes
@@locqlordcaston888 And then I would deep down understand the sentence tbh.
Found another great History channel. Thank you.