Installing the Youthman WALL OF SOUND Outdoor Speaker System from OSD Audio
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Who is crazy enough to install a LINE ARRAY in his back yard? This guy! Watch entire series here - bit.ly/OSDInstall
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Nice work youth man! Very envious of the weather, as there are no T-shirts being worn right now in central Canada. 50 below this morning. Can’t wait for the sound test and reveal. Love your channel as always.
Thanks Curtis, it really gets below 32°F here
All good, we’re used to it,,,btw, I love Florida. Had a few short layovers there, on route to catching cruise ships. Also, spent a week in Kissimmee, on three different occasions, as our daughter played college soccer in the USA, and the nationals were held there each year, and her school went three of the four years she played. We would head down there for the week to watch, and thoroughly enjoyed our time in that area. From what I remember, The weather was beautiful, in mid November when we went. Each day something like 70°. Quite a shock when we would get home to snow and below freezing temperatures here. Take care Youthman and enjoy that backyard to it’s fullest.
Now I get why you chose the XMP 500 instead of another MX880 to wire those 8 speakers. Great job, I love the array!
Now you’ve inspired me to add more speakers to my Lanai!
Thanks, this system was completely designed by OSD. The amps and wiring were their recommendation.
I’ve got two rock speakers in my backyard and two Paradigm Stylus speakers wired under my roof pointing at my pool during the summer months. Mad jealous at this setup though! The sound must be insane! My wife would probably leave me if I stacked 4 speakers together like that. Hahaha
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Mike, you gave a new meaning to Phil Spector's " Wall of Sound" with the speaker array. Love it!
Thanks David. This was OSD’s design. I think it turned out great. Looking forward to installing the amps next.
Did you consider the effects of combfiltering in your horizontal array? You are cancelling frequencies in this type of setup. Don't believe me, measure with one speaker on each side instead of four on each side. On a positive note you guys did a clean installation.
You are correct there is combfiltering, but as you move from two tweeters, to three, to four, the combfiltering effect is spread and is less of an issue.
very nice. my backyard is full of snow and temps of -27C = -16.6F with wind chill feels like -42C = -43.6F. think I will wait till spring to do something with my yard.
Definitely a good idea.
Really interesting setup. I only have two speakers in stereo, and they keep me pretty happy. I do need to crank them to fill up the yard but I'm pretty far from my neighbors.
This ended on a tease. We need to know how it sounds!!
That's a killer outdoor system my friend!
looks awesome Michael, i'm sure it will sound amazing.
Thanks Robert, I’m excited!
I wonder if The Undertaker has burial subwoofers. 😂 Ok, I'll see my way out.
LOL nice.
Just out of curiosity, what did the speakers come to for ohm load once tied together? What load are those amps rated for? Thanks!
Honestly I haven’t measured them. Still in the install process. I can check with OSD
Just a guess but if they are 8 ohm speakers wired like that i think.. It should have an impedance of 8 ohm.
That would be my thought as well.
Johnny is correct - 8 Ohms
The AP840 have some impressive specs for the price...those would make good surround speakers for sure...but with those specs, you could even use them for front
I’m really enjoying these install videos, keep it up!
Thanks Paul
I’m shocked you didn’t go with a commercial 70/100V system and daisy chain all of them in zones.
We need to know how it sounds!!
Oh the combfiltering
hahah dont even try..he is unaware of such issues. I had a discussion with him about placing a JBL 570 on its side due to lobing and limited vertical disperson then becoming the limited horizontal disperssion...it was like talking to a wall :D
Like a brick wall. 😉 You failed to mention that the owner clearly stated that setup was temporary and would be purchasing an identical speaker as his L&R and would be installing it vertically. Somehow you managed to leave that part out. 👍
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to confirm you indeed wired everything correctly, you can use a DMM to test the ohms reading of the LEFT and RIGHT drive lines to ensure that they are as close to the 8ohm spec for that amp.
way to go on a nice clean install here!
Actually that won't work. A DMM measures resistance not impedance. Since a speaker is essentially an inductor, the resistance measured with a meter will be significantly less than the rated impedance, which can be thought of as resistance to an AC waveform. Also, the way the speakers are wired in a series-parallel combination will result in a total impedance that is identical to the rated impedance of one speaker. When wiring identical speakers in series, impedance is additive. When wiring identical speakers in parallel, the impedance will be 1/2.
@@nukeelec Correct, actually a typical speaker voice coil is a resistor, capacitor, and inductor all in series. It will be reactive near resonance and become increasingly inductive at higher frequency. With an ohm meter you can only see the DC resistance and you just get a number that will typically be just a little less than the rated impedance. The actual impedance is not a number, it's a graph.
Man thats sweet. Hard for me to dish out that much cash for my outside tunes. You are much more hardcore than i 🤣🤣
This is an over the top system. Most people add 2 speakers lol
Please send some of that Florida weather to Texas, I was in the middle of pre-wire at my new house when the blizzard hit. I still have a couple days work to complete it and my constant travel job allows very little opportunity to be home to work on it. Nice job on the speaker install! I'm a big fan of line arrays, the mains in my HT will be nearly 10' tall dipole CBT arrays. Looking forward to building those!
It’s crazy the weather you guys are getting.
@@Youthman Yeah I was supposed to fly to Arizona last Monday for work but all the flights are cancelled. I have another flight scheduled for tomorrow, maybe that one will fly. Then I get just a couple days back home the following week to finish my pre-wire.
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Have you tried playing the Din Felder version of Heavy Metal as loud as it goes yet? Seems like an important milestone.
How you discipline a rock speaker?
You hit the rock bottom!
Lol
New to channel. Did you never make a video of your sound? I don't see it. Also, are you in an HOA? I want to do the subs, but I think my neighbors will complain.
I shared my thoughts in the videos but did not make a dedicated review per say. We do live in an HOA and have never had any neighbors complain. That was one of the purposes of adding a more speakers, so as to get great coverage throughout the outdoor living area without having to crank it up loud to disturb the neighbors. OSD provides a great bang for your buck. They aren’t designed to be HiFi speakers and their app isn’t as nice as Sonos but then again, they are a fraction of the cost too.
It's been a couple of years...how well have these held up?
Still going strong with no issues
This may be a silly question - Are you bridging the Speaker A channel of the XMP500? Thanks in advance.
Looks great Michael! Just wondering if you are able to rotate just the grills? My outdoor Klipsch speakers are installed in a similar fashion (tweeters down) but I was able to flip the grills.
That’s a great idea. I’ll have to see if they are removable. If so I can include that in the next video
Wow!!!
That's gonna be a rockin awesome set-up!!!
Never seen speaker wired that way what's the load on the amp? must be powerful
Four speakers wired in series/parallel come out the same impedance as just one. So if they are 8 ohm speakers the four together will also still be 8 ohm.
This keeps the amp from burning up
Hi could I connect 4 speakers like you did but using a yamaha 5.1 receiver?
Don't under stand how you can series a pair of speakers with passive crossovers in each box without affecting the next set of drivers. For a example if you series two 4 ohm speakers to get a 8ohm combined impedance you can use a single cap. On the first positive lead to cross them both over. I'll have to look more in to this.
My understanding is it’s not in series but rather series parallel. This might help www.proacousticsusa.com/media/wysiwyg/installation_help_page/Series_Parallel_Speaker_Wiring.pdf
@Youthman I under stand the series parallel with the speaker drivers just did not think you could series parallel speakers after the passive crossovers are put on the speak drivers in the enclosure. Unless the woofer is running full range without a passive crossover then that's about the only way it can be done I think.
I’m no expert on that. Just followed the instructions they provided. Sounds great to me and have had no issues with them since installing a few years ago.
Can you please make a demo of the outdoor subwoofer im trying to buy one but cant find a demo anywhere
I wonder what type of comb filtering you are going to get with something like that. In a proline array, the horizontal and vertical dispersion is designed to be put next to each other.
We shall find out lol.
Simon Spears from OSD commented above stating, "You are correct there is combfiltering, but as you move from two tweeters, to three, to four, the combfiltering effect is spread and is less of an issue."
Just a tip, an easier way to of done this was to plug the cable into one speaker and then daisy chain each speaker together. It would of saved a lot of wire and time.
Problem with “Dailey chaining” each speaker is you would change the impedance. This method allowed us to keep the impedance at 8ohms so the amp would run cooler.
That "line array" is sideways, which means you're squeezing the sound horizontally. And because the spacing of the drivers is so far apart, the comb filtering is going to be ridiculous. Looks fun though.
It’s used as background music when guests are over and we are grilling, cooking pizzas, hitting the hot tub or around the fire pit. No high fidelity listening required.
Rather than doing all the joins with the twist connections like the drawing. Why not save some joins. Like the negatives of 1&2 and a bit of wire joining 3&4 positive why not have just had 4 in 1 join? 🤔 Though I’m nocking your way here I do love watching your videos 👍
Probably because I'm a "follow the directions" kind of guy. Especially when it's something I've never done before. I've never had a need to wire in series / parallel.
Which speakers are better klipsch aw650 ord this osd audio 850….because before I saw this review I was 100% sure that this year I will buy Klipsch for outside….but right now I am not so sure🙁…which speaker do you prefer Klipsch vs OSD?
looking great..
My room same youthman theatre hall but
What must be like to be outside in February wearing a T-shirt at night and hearing birds in the day? Currently it is 7° here in Wisconsin we are experiencing lows around -15 at night! But after living in he Midwest for over 42 yers i am used to it by now.
It’s very nice here. I was born and raised in Florida. August and September are brutal with the humidity but other than that it’s wonderful
@@Youthman I do like the summers here! Rarely above 90! We can get some heat and humidity tho, especially in July. June and August are typically gorgeous tho!
Wall of Sound!
Yes sir! It’s going down
Awesome job Youthman, but i believe you forgot to mention your 2nd underground sub when you were showing the installation at the beginning.
Thanks Blair. I probably did. I figured it’s covered in the other videos
Is this considered series or parallel? In car audio they’re considered 2 different wiring methods, not sure if it’s the same for home audio? Also, what’s wiring like this do to the impedance load? Nice video.
This is using both series and parallel. If they are 8 ohm speakers and I connected 4 of them in parallel, the amp would see it as a 1 ohm load. By using both series and parallel, we maintain the same ohm load as the speaker.
@@Youthman what amplifier are you using to drive these? How’s it sound out there? Looks to be a real nice setup you have.
All of the amplifiers are OSD. See the links in the description
I haven’t connected the amplifier is yet. That will be probably first of next week before I can do that and shoot the video. He will be so much quicker if all I had to do was connected but when you have to film a process and edit the videos, it adds a lot of extra time to the install
Pretty cool
Thanks!
I just don’t understand why negative ties to positive and how two speakers are basically tied to negative on both terminals? But idk anything about speaker wiring lol
The speakers are 8ohms. If you were to connect all 4 to one channel, for each speaker you add to that channel, resistance would be cut in half so 8ohms for 1 speaker, 4ohm for 2 speakers, 2ohms for 3 speakers and 1ohm with 4 speakers.
That would likely burn up the amp.
So by connecting it in series / parallel, it keeps it at 8ohms.
@@Youthman thank you for answering 🙌🏼
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So when are we going to hear your review on how they sound?
The plan is to install the amps tomorrow so the review should be in the next week or two.
Great. I am in the process of replacing some outdoor speakers so I am looking forward to the next video. Thx for the update
Thanks.
So what happens to the outdoor system when you move houses?
No plans on moving anytime soon. If the price is right, they can keep them. If not, they will be coming with me and they can fill in the holes LOL
Hey YM are those 70volts speakers or 8ohm..
8 ohm
What are you doing with your old out door speakers?
I gave them to a friend.
@@Youthman fair enough lol
He built my front cabinet at cost of material.
what if someone goes into your garden picks up your rock speakers and runs away with them?
We live in a gated community. Anything is possible but I've yet to have anyone in my back yard.
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Hey can OSD outdoor speakers be use as Dolby atmos home theater speakers
Still dont get to hear it.
Nope
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Lol. Overkill? 🤷♂️. Four rock speakers, Eight wall speakers, subwoofers.
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To say this is overkill is an extreme understatement. 🙄
Our family loves it. It allows me to keep it at very moderate volume to not disturb the neighbors and still maintain a very full sound throughout our outdoor living area.
doh!...... found it
Are you worried you will upset your neighbours..
As mentioned in several videos, the purpose of multiple speakers is so that you get even distribution around the entire backyard living area without the need to turn it up really loud. Previously I had to turn my two speakers up pretty loud to cover the entire yard
This has to be the WORST video ever!!!!!!! Only because it -3 here in MN and I’m not going outside!
Nice work Michael, looks great!
Really not a fan of the overkill that's just wasting money (even tho sponsored) no reason for 8 speakers to do lt and rt stereo
This is definitely not a typical setup. But then again I do have (4) 18's and (3) 15's in my 13' x 19' x 10' theater room too. Some might suggest that is overkill as well. I like to think of it as limitless headroom which equates to very low distortion, even at ridiculous levels.
Neighbors?
That system has to produce some horrible comb filters. There is a lot of ignorance here.
poor neighbors. instead of doing all this though I'd probably just have put some commercial outdoor speakers in.
Are they for neighbors? The goal of having multiple speakers so you don’t have to turn it up loud and you still get good coverage around your entire outdoor living area. I have great relationships with my neighbors And will continue to be respectful of them
@@Youthman i don't doubt that, you and your wife seem like great neighbors. still a line array is going to clobber them when it's being used at any volume. i generally find the best for outdoor speakers is to distribute a bunch evenly spaced so you can keep the volume lower and have even levels as you move around.
Only time will tell. I’ll just invite them to the party or give them access to connect from their back yard via Bluetooth for their get togethers 🤣
🤦♂️ are you sure that you know what you are doing here? Your set up has nothing to do with line arrays. Google a little bit before calling this a “line array”.
Most of my knowledge is in home theater, not pro audio so no, line arrays are not something in my area of expertise. This speaker layout was designed by OSD and just reminded me of a line array but probably isn’t a correct comparison.