Absolutely love the sound you can get out of the Helios. Funnily enough I watched your review of the new NEOLD last night but I should have watched this straight after it....they're both great emulations I reckon. Thanks again for putting this out!
Good video and explanation about the Helios Type 69. My question may be very obvious but, I am delving deeper into the world of mixing and I would like to know the reason why you have the Helios after other plugins. I understand that the bx console goes first because it precisely simulates a console in the chain but, shouldn't the Helios also go as the first or second plugin because it works as a preamplifier and then add compression?
Great sounding Console and excellent review by the way who made the beat and what's the name of it the production sounds great I love it who made it??....
Mike, I absolutely love your tutorials and greatly appreciate all you do! Quick question. After watching the video on the Waves version of the Helios, how do you think this version stacks up by comparison? Any significant differences to your ears? I own the Waves version but love to hear about others as well.
This modeling is way better sounding than the Waves version. Could be the quality of the original unit or more likely a measure of how far modeling technology has come over the last several years.
Good introduction to the Helios sound, Mike, but I must say Pultecs are the furthest thing from 'transparent'. They're tube units - tons of colour by way of 2nd order harmonics.
You can't be Sirius! hahaha Yes, tubes and transformers, but not overdriven due to the design of passive EQs and the internal gain loss that occurs. Nothing close to the coloration of a 1073, API or Helios. Boost 12 K by 10dB on each of those EQ's and tell me which one you think sounds the most open and transparent. Not even close to the Pultec.
On the Helios 69 legacy, if you put it on guitars (rock genre at least) and set it at 60Hz with no additional gain adjustment, that's all you need. Please tell me they kept that quirk.
This modeling has all the quirks of the "Golden" unit they used. Based on the difference in the HF gain settings, it is likely that the unit used for the Legacy version is different. Can't say if it will be the same.
The Legacy Helios was based on the "Basing St" unit, and the new mkII is based on the earlier "Olympic Studios" unit incorporates a nonlinear inductor model. Regarding the 60hz bump from the now-legacy Helios - unlike the "Basing Street" units the "Olympic" units have a full CCW click/off position in the Bass Gain pot, and coming out from that has a tiny bit of bump, but not as much as the 3+dB that the "Basing Street" has. We checked on multiple modules and this was true unit to unit. It might have been a design "problem" on the Basing Street units having eliminated that pot. - Will Shanks
Well, technically it works like this (mkII), there is an "off" position on the Bass Gain, as with the original "Olympic" model; however, when the bass boost frequency knob is engaged, there is a very slight boost, but not like the Legacy version. When turning the Bass Gain knob into the "on" position, there is actually a +3.3dB boost at the frequency denoted by the Bass Boost knob (with quite a wide Q). This is a tiny bit more than the Legacy version. Also, added to this, is the saturation of the Lustraphone transformer, which the Legacy does not have. In other words, if you liked the boost of the Legacy, you will probably like the mkII version even more because of its added harmonics, and ability to turn it "off" as well. There is more control.
I only ever worked on a real Trident A Range desk once and was blown away by the sound. Can't say I've felt the same way about any of the emulations but also have not really spent a lot of time with it.
Thanks, Mike! As always, you do such a commendable job of walking around this unit. Am always very happy when I see you've made an update.
Another great in-depth review. Glad to have you back after that little hiatus :)
Absolutely love the sound you can get out of the Helios. Funnily enough I watched your review of the new NEOLD last night but I should have watched this straight after it....they're both great emulations I reckon. Thanks again for putting this out!
Man, I love this EQ. Thank you again Mike for the wonderful video!
Cheers!
Always a nice moment to hear you talking about gear.
Cheers Julien!
Good video and explanation about the Helios Type 69. My question may be very obvious but, I am delving deeper into the world of mixing and I would like to know the reason why you have the Helios after other plugins. I understand that the bx console goes first because it precisely simulates a console in the chain but, shouldn't the Helios also go as the first or second plugin because it works as a preamplifier and then add compression?
you are a legend mike
Thanks for the support blob!
Great review. What is your thoughts on the new Arturia TridA-Pre? Can you do a video going over that plugin?
My new fav channel. Very educational . The only part I do not understand is the 20db pad. Is that a 20db slope ?
Great sounding Console and excellent review by the way who made the beat and what's the name of it the production sounds great I love it who made it??....
Mike, I absolutely love your tutorials and greatly appreciate all you do! Quick question. After watching the video on the Waves version of the Helios, how do you think this version stacks up by comparison? Any significant differences to your ears? I own the Waves version but love to hear about others as well.
This modeling is way better sounding than the Waves version. Could be the quality of the original unit or more likely a measure of how far modeling technology has come over the last several years.
Mike great video as usual. If you were using this as a channel strip, what would you pair with it for functional compression?
Good introduction to the Helios sound, Mike, but I must say Pultecs are the furthest thing from 'transparent'. They're tube units - tons of colour by way of 2nd order harmonics.
You can't be Sirius! hahaha
Yes, tubes and transformers, but not overdriven due to the design of passive EQs and the internal gain loss that occurs. Nothing close to the coloration of a 1073, API or Helios. Boost 12 K by 10dB on each of those EQ's and tell me which one you think sounds the most open and transparent. Not even close to the Pultec.
On the Helios 69 legacy, if you put it on guitars (rock genre at least) and set it at 60Hz with no additional gain adjustment, that's all you need. Please tell me they kept that quirk.
This modeling has all the quirks of the "Golden" unit they used. Based on the difference in the HF gain settings, it is likely that the unit used for the Legacy version is different. Can't say if it will be the same.
The Legacy Helios was based on the "Basing St" unit, and the new mkII is based on the earlier "Olympic Studios" unit incorporates a nonlinear inductor model. Regarding the 60hz bump from the now-legacy Helios - unlike the "Basing Street" units the "Olympic" units have a full CCW click/off position in the Bass Gain pot, and coming out from that has a tiny bit of bump, but not as much as the 3+dB that the "Basing Street" has. We checked on multiple modules and this was true unit to unit. It might have been a design "problem" on the Basing Street units having eliminated that pot. - Will Shanks
I guess I'll stick with the legacy one then.
Well, technically it works like this (mkII), there is an "off" position on the Bass Gain, as with the original "Olympic" model; however, when the bass boost frequency knob is engaged, there is a very slight boost, but not like the Legacy version. When turning the Bass Gain knob into the "on" position, there is actually a +3.3dB boost at the frequency denoted by the Bass Boost knob (with quite a wide Q). This is a tiny bit more than the Legacy version. Also, added to this, is the saturation of the Lustraphone transformer, which the Legacy does not have. In other words, if you liked the boost of the Legacy, you will probably like the mkII version even more because of its added harmonics, and ability to turn it "off" as well. There is more control.
Great vid. Is there a way to get this track? Can't find it on Shazam :(
Thanks Mike, super Video! I have a question: Can I use the Preamp in a post production without UAD hardware like Apollo? Greatings, Jochen
Not yet. I'm hoping that they make the preamp a separate plugin and add it to the UADx native system
Thanks Mike.. Great vid 👍
Love this on rock guitars..
Cheers!
Mike, have you ever used the Trident A-Range EQ by Softube (or even UAD)? I think it's pretty special.
I only ever worked on a real Trident A Range desk once and was blown away by the sound. Can't say I've felt the same way about any of the emulations but also have not really spent a lot of time with it.
Yesterday I got the Helios for 4 bucks after discount code. Maybe sale still on.
Great review.
Thanks for another great video.
Universal Audio should hire you to do their product videos because your's are way better I think!
They always look forward to my reviews and use them in their promotions. Love UA!
Did you try to compare the old version to this MK II version?
Hard to believe that they are the same modelled unit...
Great channel thanks ❤
Adding 60 hz on this eq is very addictive.
I like the video but I use the waves HLS and wondered why I never seen a tutorial's on the waves HLS
rock track would've been better with this one
Jesus nobody cares about where it came from just do the tutorial
It's what I do! Not for everyone and completely cool with it...
I actually come to this channel for that in particular lol
@@mixingwithmike most of us come to your channel for the background info as well! Thanks for the info!