Running a stove overnight, is it safe?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- This is a divisive issue where everyone has their own opinion, but for those who are keen to do it, this video is designed to ensure you do it right and follow the best practices.
Stoves are always risky, fire is always dangerous, so its therefore a personal decision, balancing safety and the potential advantage. It's a personal decision, that for me whilst following these best practices, works superbly and has run my home my whole life.
You are a wood burning stove superstar. Thank you for your informative and engaging content 👍🏻
Literally some of the best wood stove advice ever given. I grew up in a city that didn't have wood stoves, I bought a house with one, and I was scared at first. I educated myself, and we now burn with wood almost 24/7, almost 20 years, and no problems. Thanks for taking the time to make people "less scared".
Thanks for the comment! Glad things have been working well, and for so long too!
i could listen to this guy all day , puts stuff across very well . hes like the James hunt of the stove World 😁
James Hunt 😁 what a legend!
You’re far too kind!
I thought I knew it all when we had our cheap little Firefox 5 cleanburn installed 10 years ago, and soon converted to wood burning only.
I dreamed of the ability to shut it down further than the clean burn status allowed.
Now, after years of observation and education, I only burn pini kay briquettes, top down firefighting, always get it going nice and hot before shutting it down and never ever have any soot on the glass or firebox.
If I come back from walking the dog and I can see a small amount of smoke out of the chimney I know my Wife has refuelled it either leaving it too late or forgotten to open the air flow!
I also have a 4kw stove we use in our bell tent when camping and again, never have significant smoke because I'm obsessed with burning cleanly.
One of the major things that can reduce particulate emissions is eduction!
A good piece of advice on slumbering a stove is to get the majority of the fuel glowing red before shutting it down, this way with quality fuel you can slumber right down without significant soot on the glass.
I would like a cleaner burning stove with secondary burn when I can afford it, but often wonder how much more efficient it can be than burning my more inefficient stove well?
Sounds like you’re most of the way there!
Liked and subscribed and possibly left the only comment ever on youtube, just for you. I have had the confidence to buy two stoves this weekend, (Saltfire Peanut 5 and the DG Ivar 5) because your channel is so clear and informative. Your passion for stoves shines through, and in just a few days of watching all your reviews, i really felt like I could refine both what I needed and wanted and develop a bit of stove nerdery too. My partner and I visited a few places looking for stoves, and although no one was unpleasant or rude, I got the impression they were a little fatigued from the huge increase in demand, and often the response was to take what they had in stock. I never really buy anything just because it's what is available, and you helped me be more discerning, and with the help of a great online retailer; the first stove should arrive on Friday. I'll be back, I'm sure for more advice and with questions, but for now, thank you and keep up the great work.
Fantastic, thanks a lot for the feedback. All the very best with the stoves, and let me know how you get on!
I'm exactly like you, agree about the shops too, this channel educated me so much. Looked at the Peanut 5, but gone for Dean Forge Dartmoor cos I like the look and size. Happy heating
Have you used them yet?
Liked & subscribed for a while now. You videos are by far the best and most informative. I’ve ended up going with a Capital Panamera as that is all I can get this side of Christmas. Thank you for taking the time to produce these and keep up the good work Gabriel.
Let me know how you get on with it, thanks for the sub!
@@TheTortoise I will Gabriel, thank you.
Loving your videos, wish id seen more before I ordered my new log burner. The one thing that gets me about all the negitve comment's you read about the danger's off a log burner, isnt owning a gas fire similar.
There are some similarities, but the risk of chimney fires are normally pretty remote.
Just got my first log burner at the age of 38. I've been watching all your videos to help educate myself. Thanks 👍
That is awesome!
Hope you have a warm first season with it!
LOL if people are afraid leaving the home with a stove on, they shouldn't be running the stove on first place
I'm having a Bassington eco stove fitted this week and wondered why the instructions say for "intermittent use only" now I know.
I had read that after slumbering a stove it was best to burn hot for a while.
I will be burning logs and smokeless coal, during the colder months/weeks I will try slumbering using coal.
Update, stove and fitter arrived on Friday , it appears the stove I ordered is out of stock until February and he brought a Vega 100W to fit which I don't like, but if I waited until February I would have no heating if the power goes off which happens here without the planned power cuts.
Shut down as far as it will go, I managed to get a log to burn for 2 hours, mostly they last about an hour, tried coal today, about 3 kilo of coal in one fill, so far has lasted 2.5 hours, just glowing red now, , the room is hot 24x12, I am surprised but the coal lasted 5 hours before I had to put a log on for the last hour,, now about an hour since the log burned out, fan is still going strong and room still warm.
the stove is only 76% efficient compared to the Bassington which is 84%
We had open fires growing up and not mush money
Mum used chimney fires as a way of saving money with the chimney sweep.
😆 we did that when I was young too.
Hey, from over in the Pennsylvania hardwood region of the US. Something to add to your discussion would be the time you should let your wood dry out. Here we shoot for 6 to 9 months at minimum, I like to let it sit 15 months just to ve sure.
Yea, it depends on which wood you’re drying. Things like Ash, birch and Beech dry relatively quickly (around the time you mentioned), but other fuels like oak definitely need considerably longer. If you follow the Scandinavian methods then you have a separate log store with removable sides, so that you can catch the wind in dry weather. You can get drying times down even further if you’re super organised like that, but it sounds sort of mad. I don’t know how they’ve got so much time 😆
Very good. You’re the go to fire guy. I’ve got my go to guys. I’ve got a go to plastering guy too 👍🏼
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Greetings from Palomar mt California. I'm a Canadian/ US dual citizen living above 5k ft with my Jotul 600. Raised from birth heating exclusively with wood I guess I got it all from Dad how best to stay warm. What with seals traipsing across the property having ridden the ice packs from Labrador wood heat was a necessity.
Thanks for all the informative videos that you post up. I've watched loads of them and just subscribed. Now, I'm an experienced stove user and currently have a Clearview vision 500. I'm moving house and need a smaller stove. Pioneer 400 or Ambition 5? I just don't know! I never burn coal but I do get free wood so good economy isn't essential. I'm tempted by the Ambition simply for the log length - I have no use for sawdust and every cut uses a little bit of diesel which I do have to pay for!
Welcome aboard!
If you're moving to a 2 storey house with a proper masonry chimney and a good sized fireplace then the Ambition is potentially the better pick, as it will burn for longer and create way more heat. If on the other hand you won't have an ideal chimney, there is a smaller fireplace that will leave the Ambition more cramped, or if you simply prefer the look then in which case the Pioneer sounds like the beast for the job.
Just purchased a hunter heralld Allure 7. It’s absolutely night and day compared to my old log burner. Yes it was a lot more expensive but I’m already using far less wood, achieving more heat output and it’s burns so much cleaner. Stoves really have taken a leap forward in the last ten years like you say 👍 thanks for the videos. Really helped on my stove buying journey recently
Thanks a lot, really glad to hear things are working well.
Very informative thanks
I've been burning unattended for 20 years, no issues.
I did overnight burns for a time, but by hr 7-8 coals were so low that it was barely restartable. Then one time I woke up to CO alarms going off like mad. All dry wood, pro installed, high end stove and SS chimney. I likely never will trust doing overnight burns again.
It’s certainly possible for issues, that’s why you have the CO alarm. It’s not for everyone, but certainly works for some of us.
As always a great informative video. As there are so many of us " Stove newbies " do you have any plans to do an idiots guide to being a first time stove owner? Had ours installed yesterday after doing research, now in reality with in here feel a little out of my depth in regards to carbon monoxide, chimney fire, hiw to shut it down safely before going out / to bed etc. All information gratefully received by first timers 👍
Thanks for the idea, that should be a fairly simple video to put together too. I’ll add it to my list, thanks a lot.
Gabriel
We've had an acr oakdale multifuel for over a year its great burn wood now and again have used execel smoke less for years but have tested and found best fuel is
PHURNACITE burns hot for ages it is anthracite crushed and formed in small nuggets
Tankyo do edukate on heet tac tics
I just purchased a old farmhouse and it has an old fisher grandpa bear, this is my first year and I don’t have dry wood yet.
That’s an old beast. They don’t make them like that anymore. 😁
Let me know how you get on.
Why do you need the chimney swept every 6 months? I thought the steel concertina pipe would direct all the ’ waste soot etc) goes straight out the top of the chimney ?
All v12 jags were autos mate, good analogy tho, I run a esse boiler range and use wood and anthracite, fairly expensive at 580 a ton but clean, hot and lasts ages.
Damn. I don’t know my Jags well enough, I’m a bit better with the V8’s 😆
@@TheTortoise yes bud, early v12 e types were man but 4 speed, I've just had a ton of anthracite dropped off today and the esse range is going well, heating, cooking, central heating, it does it all, heat all night on anthracite, keeps rads warm, I'm not just a stove for occasional use type of guy (!)
Good lad, keep the home fires burning.
@@TheTortoise ta mate
When you say running a hot fire perhaps if you indicated the temperature that would be beneficial.
Hot generally means 350-400°F, when measured on the pipe just above the stove.
Just found your channel and it's brilliant!
Could you comment on external air kits and if they have a big benefit over simply using the room air?
This video may be helpful, it also has a tag half way through, which links to another related video:
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I don’t tend to think there is a benefit worth chasing. I generally think of vents etc as a solution to a problem, but they do need to be handled carefully (as you’ll hear in the video, sometimes vents can make an issue worse rather than better).
Totally liked & subscribed. On the strength of your videos I've decided to purchase a Dean Forge Dartmoor 5 eco
It is British made - most important to support home grown industry, rates as super efficient for main whole house main heat source - 5k nominal output in approx 27 cubic metre room filtering into kitchen of same size, up through wooden floorboards and stairs, to two equally small rooms. So more than enough of run constantly + little back up rads uptairs if really needed. It has that traditional look for a little old mid terrace house and will beat the power cuts in an all electric home. Add trivet, kettle or casserole +jacket spud cooker, job done.
Question : I may need a 45° bend through downstairs wall then 45° vertical through ex-water cylinder cupboard continuing up through roof. All insulated professionally of course. Is this ok, oh 'grate' one?
Thank you for all the excellent videos.
This sounds great. You could consider the W5 given your serious use, but the installation with 2 45° bends will be fine. Id also ask him to fit a 6” flue if possible, this will mean you can remove the DEFRA kit (assuming you’re not in a smokeless zone), it will also be better suited to your serious use!
@@TheTortoise I've actually reserved the Dartmoor W5 from Yorkshire Stoves, very helpful people with the unit on display. It can go close to the wall with the double heat sheild saving precious space in the already small room. Thanks for that , I'll discuss the 6 inch flue. Now for bulk buy kiln dried logs stored on a pallet in the outdoor earth closet, some magic coal, fire starters and long matches - I love your little easy-dispense bottle - and I'm all set. Oh, and a couple of oil lamps for emergency light (forget the generator).Almost want a power cut when snowed in 😆
@@esme6346 sounds like you should be covered 😆.
I’ve actually just had some match bottles made (very similar to mine). If you E-mail me (thetortoiseuk@gmail.com) I can send you a picture, and if you want one I’ll send one out.
I will get them on to a RUclips shop once I’m organised, just haven’t got here quite yet.
Have been binging all your videos in preparation for having a replacement log burner installed - has been invaluable, so thank you! Would be interested in your thoughts on types of wood for burning - specifically soft vs hard? I’ve read that softwoods are more sustainable and burn hotter - is this the case? Should we be moving away from hardwoods?
You get far more heat out of hardwood and it burns for longer. When you consider Ash dieback, we actually have a huge amount of hardwood going to waste so for now at least I would stick with hardwood. The other issue with softwood is it’s quite sappy and can cause over firing & chimney tarring.
Arada Ecoboiler 25, selected the largest output stove because It provides central heating for the entire house, surprisingly for a house built in 1925 there is no gas connection. I burn a mixture of Kiln dried logs and Excel smokeless coal, over 2 to three weeks there is a slight build up on the door glass easily removed with the damp tissue dipped into the ash and wipe around method. During full winter I do burn overnight, I bank the stove up with wood and coal and turn the thermostat down which leaves a layer of warm ash in the morning which makes relighting the fire really easy, I then burn the initial fuel load in the morning quite hot as per the Arada instructions, anything else I should be doing ?
It’s sounding pretty good to me, obviously chimneys need sweeping regularly with big monstrous stoves like this. You’re likely to find overnight running easier if you focus on a particular fuel. Wood will need a full ash pan, and a good bed of ash in the firebox. Coal based fuel likes a clear pan. Overnight running will be easier like this and there are some other advantages to general running and longevity too.
Well Done !
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Question. Before I have a wood burning stove installed for the first time should I have the existing chimney swept? There will be a stainless steel liner installed with the new stove
You do need it sweeping, but lots of fitters will sweep it themselves as part of the job. If the chimney looks clear then I’d leave it to the fitter, but if it’s a bit of a mess then it’ll need a bit more time than the fitter may have.
Worth asking your fitter.
I've used my Quadrafire woodstove for 30 years with only ONE incident. BLOWBACK! It was 100% my bad. I filled the stove with seasoned dry firewood rounds but during initial igniting I had the primary damper closed and the secondary damper mostly closed. This created excess gas from the firewood which exploded in a BIG fireball that shot out the chimney at the base where it connects to the stove. Very scary to hear the big PUFF sound and see flames inside my house. It did this twice and ceased as soon as I opened the glass door. I immediately opened both dampers too. Whew! Close call. That will never happen again on my watch. Always have both dampers open until logs have ignited, then adjust dampers for a slower overnight burn. Never burn wet wood. Thats just plain stupid and lazy.
I’ve made a video about this issue, but yes it does tend to give people quite a shock.
Most stoves in Europe now have bleeds on the stove to leak air above the fuel all the time. This in theory increases efficiency and also prevents this build up of unburned gases.
A thermometer helps enormously in burning at the best temperature.
Yeh, I slapped one on the chimney and it’s great.
Good advice thank you
You use wet wood you make wood soup for yourself with cresete as the side item on the menu.
What is the best thing to get rid of surface buildup of deposits by adding something in the fire ??? Thanks
If you’re trying to get rid of tar, strangely the best thing is smokeless fuel. Smokeless fuel is corrosive to everything, so on a clean flue it will damage it, but it will actually breakdown tar. Traditionally you would of just had a chimney fire and that would have burned the tar out, but smokeless fuel is a lower temperature solution 😆.
@@TheTortoise O.K. inform me, what is smokeless fuel ??? Super dry wood ??
@@victoryfirst2878 it's a type of coal that burns without smoke. It's normally labelled as 'smokeless coal'
@@freakeystyley34 I appreciate the information fella. Now I know something new. Am wondering how expensive this fuel can be ?? Good day too.
got a question, lets say I load my fireplace at 11pm before going to bed so that I have overnight warmth. I guess at some stage at night, the fire is going to go down due to fuel and hence stove is running in less than optimal temperature. Wouldn't that cause the glass to dim?
Potentially. But if you use my overnight running technique, then you will have burned off the fuel already and only the burning charcoal will remain and at this point there won’t be anything left to dim the glass.
I burn a goat wood stove,it's only 7 KW but is enough for a 30 M2 room,no chimney liner, chimney is clean, I only burn dry wood and the glass on the door still blackens,why is this?
The lack of liner will be a contributing factor as you’ll have less draw which means the air coming into the stove and running down the glass will be moving slower and therefore be less effective. I would also very much expect there to be a temperature factor.
A thermometer will help you get the temperature right and this (I expect) will dramatically change the cleanness of the burn.
Have you ever tried night briquettes? I havent but would be interested to hear your independent opinion
I’m hearing loads about these, and yes I’ve tried all sorts, but I am yet to find anything I prefer to normal logs. Briquettes seem to either burn way too hot or produce an unpleasant amount of ash. And logs when I’ve compared them on the same stove produce:
A more even heat
Less ash
Still run overnight
And don’t crumble in my hands and make a complete mess.
I’m keen to try any products out there, but I haven’t found a competitor to decent logs yet!
Wouldn’t say it’s safe but throughout the winter I keep my stove cooking 24 hours a day
Hi. I have liked and subscribed. Please tell me the name and model no. of the log-burner in this video? It has a wide glass screen/door which I fancy.
I don't like the ones with small doors, it's pretty to look at the flames flickering.
That is the Hunter Herald 5 slimline Eco. It’s a good bit of kit, obviously you can check out my review etc.
@@TheTortoise Thank you.
Good afternoon, Gabriel , I think you probably sold me on this model be it the 7 or the 8
I just wondered how do you know that you get the latest manufactured model not any old stock I’m talking about the lady that you said probably had a older version who was having problems with the air control system falling to pieces .
There seems to be a lot of price differential between different retailers
And I was interested about this pumping air to it directly Imhow on earth, would you achieve that, without seeing some ugly pipe running across your floorboards -does it come down the chimney to It ?
Assuming you’re referring to the Aspect then they made an original and the latest version is called an Aspect Eco. As long as it’s the Eco I’d probably go for the best deal I could find, or I’d buy local, because you’ll always have a place to visit if you need anything.
Are you still using your wood pellet stove? Ive just ordered one and hope it will be a good investment.
I still own it, but with all the swapping around it doesn’t get used much at the moment. I plan to put it in an outbuilding once I get it sorted.
It’s certainly been fantastic for me!
Brilliant advice. Btw, tell Santa you want new socks!😂
😆me and socks are a nightmare.
@@TheTortoise Same!😂
I been burning all day and all night for over 1 year now. Need to to burn dry wood no newspaper, trash, pine, and clean your stove twice a year.
That’s commitment! I’m glad to hear it’s working though!
Think you need some new socks mate! 🤣
great voice
Thanks a lot 😬😆
Do the DG Ivar stove have the option of a rear flue (to create a bigger hot plate on top for cooking)…? Thanks
They do, but stoves always work better with top outlets, so they’re always our first choice.
Do you recommend a good stove thermometer for a twin wall flu. Was looking at a valiant to attach to the stove collar as won’t stick to the twin wall pipe.
Mine I’m having made have just arrived. Drop me an E-mail to thetortoiseuk@gmail.com and I’ll post you one out (I think they cost £6.00 with post)
I’m not fully organised with an online shop yet, but once I am this’ll get a bit easier.
I have an old stove that leaks but works so good, I would like to replace it with an updated model, do you have a favorite?
Everyone and every situation is different so it is impossible to suggest “the best stove” (a 2 seater sports car may be nice, but if you have a family of 4 it’s essentially useless as a main car).
What stove have you got
How old is your house
Is it fitted in a chimney or free standing
How big is the room
What do you burn mainly (wood or coal)
How do you use your stove (all day, occasionally, just evenings etc)
Let me know the answers and I can suggest some good options.
Hi, just out of interest the bad press recently about Log burners and health in the home gave me the willys a bit , I've had 2 log burners for about 7 years and I only get quality hardwood logs delivered all around about 11% when I use then, I use a flue thermometer as well , even after doing all this I'm thinking am I ruining my kids health? You and your family have been in the business for a while what's your opinion? King regards. Martin
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The above video may be helpful.
But we all have to live in the real world, stoves are looking after your family and your home. Cold, damp and mould will harm people very quickly, and the stove is preventing this. Stoves vent particulates at the top of a house within smoke that is hot and travels upwards, so the affect on your family is minute. By contrast most other things that include combustion (boilers, cars, fire pits, and your oven at home). These things emit their particulates right where you are and they also produce more particulates.
I’ve become very frustrated with the media scare mongering because you are left worrying that you’re causing something horrific, but all you have to do is cook a piece of toast and you will produce more particulates than a stove. We can’t just stop eating, and not travel and not have warmth. We’re unfortunately worrying about the wrong thing, using stoves, cars and ovens are normal and the particulates they produce are normal and everyone is subject to them. What isn’t normal is the scare mongering that leads you, a father, to fear you may have harmed your children by simply keeping them warm. It seems a terrible failure by the media, that could help rather than hinder ordinary people.
Rant over 😆
Thanks for the reply, really appreciate your time, I think they're looking for a scapegoat and this is an easy target, they need to ban scented candles and these things that spit out smells every 2 minutes from a plug first , is it worth upgrading to a 'eco burner', I've a saltfire in the living and a small one in the kitchen a Mazona seattle, which I'm not sure with, when I did the smoke test with the vents closed smoke was coming out the joints! I want to future proof my log burning as we love using it I'm pretty good at it now, can't imagine life without them, any suggestions would be appreciated, I have subscribed to your great channel. Kind Regards. Martin
Oh and what's your families company called if you don't mind
@@martintaylor3393 there is no reason to upgrade the stoves, they should have many more years left. The draw and smoke issue is worth looking into:
is your chimney lined?
is it a 2 storey house or something else?
Is the top of the chimney the tallest thing around or are there taller things close by?
Where abouts are you geographically (Near the sea, bottom of a valley, near a river, top of a hill)?
Are you aware of anything that contributes to this issue?
Is it worse or only present with certain wind directions?
@@martintaylor3393 I deliberately keep some separation, for me the integrity and impartiality of the channel is way more important than trying to sell to people.
Hello if only burning wood on a multi fuel stove is there much difference than burning on a wood stove only does the wood stove burn the wood for much longer or is there not much in it thanks
It depends on the stove, but the difference can be enormous. I once tested a stove with and without the multi-fuel kit and the difference was tremendous, particularly in regard to how long the stove could be left between re-loading. Wood lasted less than half the time on that particular stove, with a relatively clear ashpan.
Thanks a lot
Subbed and liked love it ❤️
You’re too kind!
Video is good nice and clear but change your socks 😂
Socks are becoming a bit of a theme to my channel, I get a lot of advice regarding them 😂
Your socks are similar to my holey wonders.
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What is your opinion about Chimney Typhoon Power Sweeping Set that I can buy on Amazon and use it to clean chimney on my own?
I’ve replied to your other comment, but do be cautious with them. If you’ve got a chimney in good condition then it’ll work, but these can damage chimneys quite easily.
@@TheTortoise thank you for replying.
When you say you let your stove settle at a lower temp whilst at work…. Like, how safe is that? I’m new to the multi-fuel game and that to me is kinda scary… or is it ok as long as it’s slow burning? Lol
There is always an element of risk with anything we do, and you’re right this is no different.
People often find that, once they’ve got a stove, and they have become used to it, they are much more comfortable with this as an idea. If you have a dog and you leave a child in the room with it, there is an element of risk, but if you know the dog you will often make your own judgement. I think you are the best judge of your situation, and you’ll know if it is sketchy.
In my own home, I would leave my stove at almost any temperature without checking. Stoves are far less dangerous when you’re not there, than they are on an overnight burn with you upstairs.
I’m really big doing likes , it seems basic manners if you watch something even if you don’t like it
You’ve just reminded People to do a like then, as I’m typing this
And I realised I forgot to do a like !!!
We always like a “thumbs up”, thanks a lot.
hi . if a stove is 80% efficient . how is that measured and what is it efficient on .ie emitions or heat output or fuel. ? and is an 85% stove really any better than a 70% ?
Really good question. No higher efficiency does not always mean better.
It’s easier to get high efficiencies by forcing the stove to burn hotter and faster, meaning you lose control. It’s far harder to get Hugh efficiency and a long controlled clean burn.
If you look at my review of the Holborn stove and the Allure 5, the allure has a lower efficiency but far better fuel economy.
It’s not that the Holborn is bad, it’s just it is made for more intermittent use. Intermittent use is the worst for the environment as most of the dirt is created during heating the stove up, so faster burning, cleaner stoves are better suited to those users. The Allure will actually run cleaner when used by a serious user as it is used for longer periods cruising rather than stop start.
thanks for the reply . we had a newman magnifico se at our last house. it was ok but not that controllable . do all new stoves have a secondary burn or is it a gimmick ?
@@dd-yg3cx basically all stoves have secondary and most have tertiary air/burn too.
There’s a lot of sales waffle, but it’s all working towards a cleaner and more thorough/efficient burn. The lazy designers route is to make a stove with less control as it will pass the tests more easily, getting a controllable stove to still beat the tests takes a bit more finesse.
Safer than freezing to death
Yea, definitely try to avoid that!
Great video. Looks like you've had the bottom of your socks too close to that stove though!
😳 I’m a nightmare for wearing worn out socks!
Can we burn socks in the fireplace or in the stove?
Now I think probably not, which is clear from this movie.
I never panic too much about burning the odd thing, but it’s definitely best to avoid if you can 😆
Could have been answered inside of 60 seconds , “burn dry wood and get your stove hot once a day” how did that take 9 minutes? lol😂😂😂
I remember getting one of the first truly efficient clean burning Arrow stoves with tertiary airflow controls and that was about the mid 1990’s. It was as good then as most today and really kicked the heat out.
Prior to that I grew up with stoves through the late 1970’s and 1980’s which were solid but inefficient. Had several but amongst the most popular were Villager stoves. Again, inefficient and only marginally easier on fuel than an open fire. Never really liked the Jotul stoves which to me were a name to be bandied around as a boast by the better healed. I thought them ugly and overpriced.
What did become popular in urban communities were refurbished fancy french cast stoves some of which were very ornate.
These days, I baulk at paying through the nose for the fancier stoves as even good cheap ones work so well and have just ordered a Heta Inspire 40 inset so I do hope the hype is right and they’re decent stoves. Must admit I still like Arrow stoves too.
Modern stoves do have a genuine jump from the likes of a 90’s Aarrow. Of course insets are at a certain disadvantage, but the Inspire is about as good as they get. Mostly it’s about how much fuel you use, a 90’s Aarrow would give plenty of heat, but it could also burn a net of logs in 1.5 hours. Modern stoves will give the same heat with waaaayyy less fuel.
@@TheTortoise Thank you, yes, it was your recommendation which steered me towards the Heta. I was also going to look at a Dik Geurts eco 500 inset had to offer but when asking my stove fitter what he used himself, he pointed to the heta Inspire 40 and recommended that as what he personally used which was good enough for me.
Sounds good, I hope you enjoy it!
I have a very unusual problem with my new portway luxima 5 multifuel stove. I can’t seem to use it without the heat being unbearable in the room it never has more than two thin split logs when lit. Then once burnt down only ever replaced with one split log. It’s running 3/4 shut down. If you shut it any more the glass starts to go black. It isn’t in a chimney it’s free standing with fully insulated flue the room is approximately 17 ft x 12 am I doing anything wrong? I’m burning. Kiln dried hornbeam. Moisture content is 9%. I know most people will laught that it’s too efficient but when it’s on you can’t sit in the room. Also do you know if you can retro fit a back boiler to a stove
This is being caused by the temperature the stove is being run at. It’s very important that the stove is filled properly and brought right up to temperature during lighting. Once you’ve done that you’ll find that keeping the glass clean is easy and you can close the stove down properly.
Obviously the stove is too big for your room, but with a bit of trial and error practice, you will find that you can get the stove burning on low with a very clean glass. The initial heating is a top priority, once you’ve done it just burning a single log will be fine, and you’ll be able to close it down too, but this will take some practice. You’ve got perfect fuel, so it will be more than achievable.
I read somewhere that wood burning stove gives out same pollution as a lorry!? Or is it false news.
It is definitely manipulated figures, this might be helpful:
www.charnwood.com/news/the-truth-about-wood-burning-stoves-the-real-facts/
@Janet Darbey haha, didn’t know that. I think cooking a roast dinner is similar.
What’s bad about a chimney fire?
We used to deliberately have chimney fires to clean the chimney when I was a kid, but those days are definitely behind us. The world is a little more official than it was, but on the plus side there are less houses burning down now which must be a good thing!
@@TheTortoise you mentioned that there are/is a risk but I didn’t get what the risk is, is it that the stove can cause a fire to break out in the room or is it just the chimney? If there’s a fire in the chimney how is that dangerous?
@@BobK5 risks are always their when you’re playing with fire. If you run a stove inappropriately then chimney fires are more likely and as the thumbnail shows this can obviously be very dangerous, but I realise mostly this isn’t a disaster other than the damage it will do to any liner that is in the chimney. As long as you run overnight sensibly following the advice given then essentially you’ve mitigated most dangers, but as I say you can’t mitigate all risks when you’re lighting a fire in your house.
@@TheTortoise thank you, that sounds reasonable.
@@BobK5 I do my best 👍😁
Coal
I burn mine 24/7
Distance to combustible are plastic or real flowers ?🤣
Yea 😬, do as I say not as I do! 😆
Burn antracite coal,
Usual fear and doubt garbage about "chimney integrity". Usual rubbish to con a consumer into being forced to line the chimney when not needed.
You can do what you like to your chimney, but there is no con. I can bore you with the reasons behind liners, but I don’t sell them so it makes no odds to me.
@@TheTortoise There is a con, and you are clearly supporting it. You fail to state you only need a liner under certain conditions. Every HETAS installer lied to me saying you needed one regardless.
Your opening statement about smoke egress into bedrooms etc is the usual disinformation put about by your industry. The majority of chimneys are safe.
@@T5Zplayer I might do a video on why liners are important as the information you have is sadly incomplete, so it’s probably a worth while video.
This is a subject I have been trained in and worked within my whole life, and 2 generations before. We have installed for decades without liners and my father is part of the reason why liners are used so widely now.
It’ll take me a while, but it’ll either be a useful video that will show you something new, or it’ll just annoy you. But I will just say, I’m far from a health and safety nut, but the information you have is incomplete and with a bit more information I’m certain you would recognise the need.