Finally got my vive pro.. I was not really impressed with what I have seen since I have not used VR headset for a while.. So I pop out my oculus rift and vive and compare.. damn.. difference was huge. SDE is still there but it's at least 50% better than rift or regular vive and everything looked so much cleaner. i probably never be able to go back to vive or rift after using vive pro. not sure it worth $1400 for a whole set but if you have money to spare, vive pro is definitely the choice here. Sure.. it will be outclassed near future but till then, vive pro is the king.. oh.. another huge improvement they made is when things get really close to your face. those annoying cyclop effect is nearly gone with vive pro. When virtual girl gets too close to my face, I usually had to close one of my eyes to see her 2 eyes(if I open both eyes, her face would over wraps and makes her cyclops) but that thing is almost gone on vive pro. I simply can't wait how good things will look on VR headset in 2021. :)
I'm glad that finally someone is beeing honest....because i was thinking it was just me that liked the vive pro... you can only make a comparison when you really have different HMD's next to each other. Go get the vive pro upgrade lenses you will be even more impressed. I'm glad you are happy with your purchase. have fun with your VIVE PRO 👍😉
Why the hell did you buy that when you could get a Pimax 5K+? The Pimax has a 200 degree FOV while the Vive Pro has a 110 degree FOV. The 5K+ also has MUCH less SDE, higher resolution screens, and is compatible with both SteamVR and the Oculus client. You wasted your money. The Pimax is also much, much cheaper.
It's called fluff. Some RUclipsrs like putting fluff into the videos for some unknown reason. It's like the people who feel the need to put an intro to their videos. Soooooo annoying.
Your comparison here is pretty hard to use, as you're giving each headset just over one quarter of a 1080p youtube video. Any resolution differences are lost in that downsampling, all we can see are some differences in color, contrast, lens artifacts etc.
very true .....so i'm gonna post a part 2.....same vids but full screen maybe then you guys will see a difference.... best place to look for difference is fencing along the side of the track and shadows.
Sorry my English, it's not my native language. I have these two VR headsets and there is a big difference between then! And, sorry to say this, but in this video you cannot see this difference, but I thanks Channel VR for have made this video. Even when you see this video trough 1080P in a big screen, you cannot see the big difference. The Vive Pro has much less SDE and you find the difference not when you pass from the original Vive to the Vive Pro, but, instead, when you get used to the Vive Pro and then, one day, you have the sad idea to try again the original Vive. Man, that hurts! The only things that the original Vive is better is that it has much lower god rays and, because it uses a lesser resolution, the image is more fluid.
I have to say you are absolutely right you hardly see the difference in this video ... and yes this video doesn't do the VIVE PRO justice. Once you put on the VIVE PRO if only for a few minutes and go back to the early VIVE the difference is immediately visible . I still use the VIVE PRO with lens upgrade.....still the best i think.
@@replacesoundboard You got less SDE effect (that was my biggest complaint with the original Vive), more image detail, but a little more God Rays and a little less FOV. Also, you need a more powerful graphics card to get the same FPS with the Vive Pro. The strapping mechanism for the head on the Vive Pro, with earphones, is far better than the elastic band from the original Vive. Everything else is the same. It's a small improvement (the Vive Pro is the 1.2 version of the original Vive), but, yes, the improvement is there and it's hard (at least to me!) to go back to the original Vive, after you get used to the Vive Pro. As I said before, you will notice the difference, especially when you go back to the original Vive, after a couple of hours of use, not when you go for the first time to the Vive Pro.
@@josetrigueiro5978 Thanks for the reply! A long time ago, I thought the Vive Pro was nothing more than the original Vive with the deluxe audio head strap (which I purchased) in blue, but I guess it's a small improvement after all.
Without knowing exactly which recording is the Pro and which is the regular one, the recordings look relatively similar enough that I think I'll just keep my current original Vive. Thanks for actually recording the inside of the headsets.
In the second recording, the right video looked more blurry, but by paying attention, I noticed you could distinguish the grids on the side of the circuit, whereas the grid was more blurry on the left recording despite generally looking smooth.
still on the original vive ? waaw i'm already on the VIVE PRO 2 however to be honest the Vive Pro with lens upgrade is much better in the end. Why ...? well even my RTX4090 cant render the VIVE PRO2 in full resolution. If you have the original vive try the lens upgrade (one of my other videos) they are really worth it and the Fresnel lenses are done..
Me:plays Minecraft on oculus quest2 HTC vive pro:hello and welcome to hell would u like to play with me ME:YO I DIDN’T ORDER U HTC vive pro:well ur friend sended me to u ME:YO GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE
The main problem with the Vive (I got both) is that there is only a very small area in the center focus that is actually sharp. As soon as your eye travels around it gets unsharp. I guess this is due to the rubbish lenses. But having high quality lenses would probably raise the price by 100%
100 degree FOV is a non-starter for me. I think once foveated rendering is available with Pimax 5K BE - that's the one I will go for. But I think the world is ready for a 2160p resolution per eye display.
Yes try to look better. Star one Vr FOV 210° horizontal and 130° vertical what that price.that is 3200 dollar !!! Hahaha i'm not kidding. But you got everything ex. Fov like a human eye , good tracking anything
Vive Pro has same lenses as Vive, like other RUclipsrs discovered. The sharpness is raised a bit, but it's still pentile AMOLED. Samsung WMR has same resolution as Vive Pro, and it's a lot cheaper. A LOT. But if you have not much money, you can try Lenovo / Medion WMR headset. You can have one for 200. It works also good for racing, and SDE is better due normel RGB LCD screens. Much less black space and so pixels are more harder to seen. I understand this comparsion has flaw with wrong resolution, 1080p camera cannot see more than 1080p pixels, so both looked very same. You should use macro lens on camera, because we want see pixels, sharpness and Screen Door Effect. Other RUclipsrs did it at correct way with macro shots. Otherwise, good try but not perfect enough to answer some questions.
Best thing you can do is have a look at the second video start @ 4.44 and then go to 9.18 if you dont see a difference then well ... (using same cameras btw) ..no use using higher resolution because well like my eye specialist said we dont seen in resolution (your eye) the only thing they have to get rid of is pixels because that you can see. I own the best oled 4K tv out there and still if i stand within 5 cm of the screen i can still see pixels. Your vive is on your head so even if they use 4k displays in there you will still see a fine mesh in front of you ...just look at the pimax 8k and 5k reviews honestly not much better than the vive pro... HTC new that already hence the reason they did not make this kind of headset..... having changed the lenses on both vive's made a real difference...gone are the godrays . Now we dont need better vr headsets we need better GPU's to cope with the framerate at high resolutions. ;-)
You can definitely tell while in the vehicle. Outside of it though (where the real racing matter) it is less evident. I had the Odyssey+ and sent that back, as it was a little blurry due to the anti-SDE stuff. I tried supersampling, but my computer isn't strong enough. So I went back to the Rift and will run that until the next round of headsets and GPUs don't cost 2 arms and a leg. Though, at least you have the full Vive setup (I had the original), and can upgrade to something like the PiMax 5K+ or whatever comes afterwards and only have to purchase the headset and not the complete setup again.
A VR headset with a FOV of 100-110 will never be good enough for racing sims. The lack of peripheral vision not only limits the immersion but it totally kills the sense of speed since the speed is caused by objects whizzing past your peripheral view. It's like driving with blinkers on.
have you ever worn a race helmet ? this together with a fireproof hood.... believe me i have lots of times and you can't see shit sometimes.... that's why this VR thing on my head makes the immersion even more real for me ...and you sweat like hell in both of them 😎😁 there will be better HMD in the future for sure i i cant wait to own one ...but like i already said a millon times...no use having the best 8K 360FOV headset out there if your pc can only render 20pfs.....so first things first and that's GPU power...and lots of it...
Boa tarde Essas câmeras frontais servem para que? Eu tenho um Oculus Rift CV1 e estou querendo trocar, pegar um melhor e estava pensando no HTC Vive mas tem varias versões desde a Vive pura que não tem essa câmera frontal até o Pro e Pro 2 e muito difícil você ver o produto de perto, testar, ver as diferenças e saber qual agrada o gosto. Aqui no Brasil não vemos muita coisa e o valor do Vive Pro 2 chega a custar uns $5.000,00 (cinco mil dólares americanos)
Ok had to translate this...lol😃 so the cameras for now do absolutely nothing unless you are a developer... I got the vive , vive pro and now the vive pro2. Have to say don't go for the pro2 doesn't perform as good even with the higher resolution. Higher resolution means less frames and more expensive gpu's. I prefer my vive pro with the 40 euro lens upgrade and believe me ...it's amazing 👏 🙀
@@channelvr1293 finding these lens updates here in Brazil is complicated, Vive or any VR here in Brazil is very expensive, 5 to 6 times more than in the USA and Europe.
@@channelvr1293 finding these lens updates here in Brazil is complicated, Vive or any VR here in Brazil is very expensive, 5 to 6 times more than in the USA and Europe.
Looking at your camera views of the 2 vive units, the Vive pro looks a little clearer at times by watching the dash display. But other than that it is hard to tell if there is any big differences between the two units. Almost have to put on the headsets to get a feel or comparison of both Vive units. Right now I have the Oculus Rift- I like my unit, but the resolutions are not there yet for the Rift. Thanks for the video though.
i have tried both of the headsets and can say this video does not show what they truly look like. normal vives screen door effect is horrendous compared to the pro. try drawing really small tik tak toe board and flip it diagonally, thats what the normal vive looks like while on the other hand the pro has more than twice smaller "tik tak toe board" than the normal vive.
Nice touch with the Ferrari steering wheel. I couldn't help but notice you had your headsets just sitting on the table. I currently make stands for the HTC Vive and would love to send you a couple if you are interested!
Well thanks .... stands are good if you have a table to put the stands on... but the tray in the video was just to test out the vive's they always hang on the top end of my race chair that's handy when your in the sim rig you just have to grab behind you. Still i you would like me to review your stands yeah with pleasure...and i would return them to you.
I wanna know when htc will make driving cockpit like that...WOW. really, im still trying to get the blurr out of my vive. maybe its the games. only played star trek but only thing nice is the control panel but everything else is ...not sure if fuzzy is the right word...but its not like a HD super crisp image either.
I honestly think they shouldn't sell vive or any other HMD for that matter online or in shops... i say this because HMD are not plug and play things... i have been to other HTC owners and put there VIVE on my head and i went like WHAT ? or i have a special VIVE or there is something wrong with all the other vives because non of them compare to mine.... First i went to a optician to astablisch my IPD (interpupillary distance ) that's a start to seeing and reading nearby text better in VR... then the HMD must be DEAD center in front of your pupils meaning not only horizontal (IPD) but also vertical... try looking at a text in VR and move the HMD up and down (like millimeters) you will notice the difference. with any HMD it wil always look like you are looking threw a piece of fine silk.. there will always be pixels....even the 4K ones and 8K ones have pixels...cant avoid them... in your case i'm pretty sure its 70% to do with your setup and not the HMD.
Hi, nice video and made me miss flying my heli's lol :( oh well hobbies change and sim racing is more for me these days. What is the non-motion rig, with the red seat? Looks very solid
yep have about 20 helis and planes but there just sitting there for the moment....hmmm.... yep the non motion seat is one i made myself...busy making a new video about how to make a 200 euro simrig. coming soon. ;-)
Hi nice comparison, are you about to review the prosimu 3dof?do you thing its good enough mixed with vr? Or isnt it enough and are u thinking about updating to the 5dof?
yep .... i realise the problem.....that is me not putting the camera dead center in the vive lens.....pfff need to find a different way to do this....or smaller 4K camera that doesn't constantly focus in and out....
good question... with the lenses i improved the normal VIVE but not up to the standerd of the VIVE PRO by just adding lenses you dont increase resolution but the Fresnel lenses didnt really help the readability of text or along the side of your viewing angle. That said adding de lenses really improved the smoothness everything looks more polished. The Fresnel lenses where a real pain. So yes both vive's improved by the lenses and give you the illusion that the resolution is higher but of course we all know that is not true. But hey if it tricks the mind and the eyes i'm not complaining for a 40 euro upgrade.
with the first comparison, i was all "ok yea that is definitely the vive pro down there.. you can actually read the dash..." but then the second comparison started, and i was like "oook... this one I can read the timer while the other is a blur... but.... it doesn't look all that sharp... what?" and then the 'reveal' happened and I'm all "ok yea... that's definitely caused by the camera placement.. its just out of focus"... so all in all, i'd say while yea this is kinda cool to actually see what its like in there via a camera... but if you can't get it set up properly, its pointless.... But eh.... people will probably still get the normal Vive because holy SHIT 1.4 thousand dollars for a headset... is fucking STUPID.... No one can possibly use the excuse "well its new technology so it needs to be expensive to cover research costs..." uh, fuck no. They made a Vive for under 800 bucks... THAT product was the fruit of their research and development... this new "Vive Pro"? Nah... That was just "hey lets throw in some more cameras to the front and increase the screen resolution!"... there was hardly ANY 'research and development' involved with that... so the justification for a 1.4k VR headset is just stupid... They just wanted to gobble up all that RUclips money from RUclipsrs buying them left and right because they have tens of thousands of dollars to blow a year...
You say it best!! HTC tryes Apple pricing policy with Vive pro. Take shit load of money from customers without giving almost nothing new for them. You get 3 rifts with Vive pro price!!!
@@varmatappo To be fair, its really like, 1 1/2 of a normal vive if you buy a vive pro. Only the 'full kit' is $1,000+. And I honestly don't understand why that is. There's nothing new about the controllers, or the light houses... so why it costs $1,000+ for a 'full kit' when a 'full kit' with the normal Vive is only around $400ish, is insanely confusing.
Yes I compare full kit prices of Vive pro and Oculus rift. Here in Finland Vive pro full kit cost 1599€ and Oculus rift with touch controllers is 469€. So you get 3 rift's full kits with one Vivo pro full kit price XD
@@varmatappo Still only slightly true. You don't ever actually GET a 'full rift kit'. You still need that 3rd sensor for reliable room scale tracking sadly. Sure you can 'get away' with 2, but its still often glitchy. So that's another $60-80 dollars depending on where ya buy it and sale prices. Rift is good if ya want 'quick and cheap', but I'm still one of those people that say to save up for at least a normal Vive if you want the most outa your money. Its more 'future proof' and doesn't rely on needing additional components. You could easily just buy a normal Vive, and eventually upgrade to a Vive Pro once they go on sale. Where as with a Rift, you're stuck with 'only the Rift' since nothing else is out. T-T I'd love to see a new Rift come out. Specially if they maintained the cheap price. But I'm ALSO not much of a Facebook fan... so I wouldn't really want to give them my money even if they did sadly.
You just earn your 500th subscriber because I’ve watched you a few times of late before purchasing a vive pro and doing a gear VR lens mod and your very informative without the usual bullshit youtubers do,not sure if you’ve tried one yet but the valve index is amazing unit you might like to try with your sim racing setups,the clarity’s amazing on that thing,the lenses were just not good for my eyes personally though and I heard they have double lenses or something so they’re gonna be hard to mod,anyway keep doing what your doing 👍
Channel VR we’re near the stage that VR is getting ready to blow up,you have the foundations and hopefully you should go along with it nicely,good luck
I want to get into the vr world. Money is not a problem.. Is the vive pro seriously worth it? In my neighborhood vive pro is $1000 more expensive for the bundle. I would have to buy the headphone strap for the regular vive & would get a wireless adapter for either. I want a vr experience that is the highest quality.. But from what ive seen the pro dosnt really have a noticeable difference over graphics. I crossed the rift off my list in favor of the regular vive. Also looking into what pimax is doing.. I have an i7 6700k with gtx 1080
hi, well Pimax isn't a option with a GTX1080 you will need a RTX 2080TI at least..and honestly it all depends what you want to do with your headset .....Racing? arcade ? or FPS ... i would recommend the VIVE PRO to everyone because it is much better than anything i have put on my head ...(haven't tried pimax yet but have seen very good reviews about it and i'm not impressed) now trying ACC with the pro and its amazing... i have the luxury to have 2 pc's running both vive's at the same time and everyone that swaps over from one to another is 100% convinced that pro is 10x better then the vive...unfortunately this really didn't show that much in my videos because capturing VR and then showing it on youtube is impossible... its like LG trying to show their latest 4K Tv on youtube...doesn't work... That said .... buy yourself the VIVE PRO and a RTX2080TI , thats 2500 euro you said money is no problem lol ;-) and a set of new lenses..40 euro and you will have the time of your life....
oh yes it will but the most important in vr is having a framerate of 90fps if you dont wanne get sick...so the higher the VR resolution the lower the fps....
..for FPS & Racing..I have GTX1080..should I dive into Pro, or Vive is fine for now to start, then upgrade later? will i be disappointed & exchange it for a Pro?
Really great concept video, hard for me to tell the difference though, especially with AC's brightness set so high it looks whitewashed. Keep up the great work though. I wonder if I'll have a harder time streaming while racing with the Vive Pro with more resolution.
Sorry to have to Point this out but it looks like there are a few problems with this comparison. First, is your camera filming in 1080? Or is that because you uploaded in 1080 eather way we can't see the difference except from colour.
actually the best thing i can do is take pictures instead of movie . Then the difference is very obvious gonna take some pictures ......there is a huge difference best you can do is not look at the road but at the fencing and the car display...
well i have really BAD eye site...meaning i have to wear lenses and i over wear them ..meaning i wear them for more then 13H a day and i only supposed to wear them 8H so NO even with my very dry eyes end lenses i have never had a issue with eye discomfort. Any discomfort comes from the band and sweat you may produce because of the heat while wearing it.
EUUh where did you get the idea that i get payed to say stuff.....Nope work for my money and pay for everything myself....and true you can hardly see the difference...but in front of your eyes at only 2 cm away the difference is very obvious.
Great video but difficult to see on video, I have a triple 40 inch and a Odyssey I use them both when it is summer I use the triples otherwise when it is cooler the Odyssey. But i canyt use overlay programs in vr such as Z1 software only on the triples And the WMR headsets has no occulus core 2 software to monitor that in VR :-(
yep well you got the visual so indeed very hard to see the difference like i said in the vid.... the difference is miner but there is definitely a difference....
yes and No.....Dont forget the tracking with vive is the best on the market.... its down to the mm (millimeter) i can move my controllers up to a few Millimeters that's really astonishing .
Odyssey, like the Gear VR, appears like the cheap undercut option, but most content will have native support for Vive, Rift or PSVR..everything else is out for now, especially the controller setup, too important.
III Yes that seems the biggest issue. Side by side comparisons of Odyssey (+) and VPro, the VPro runs better out of thr box and I am more comfortable and immersed. Settings are tweakable tho. I may still keep the Odyssey owing to price and knowing it won't be my last VR system. I can afford both but that's not the point. Still, VPro does seem better including tracking and even button response. For instance in Space Pirate trainer I constantly miss the swap from gun to shield and have difficulty pressing for the correct type of gun - with the Odyssey. It's smooth with the VPro. Boxing - unable to block with my head down is a downer with the WMR tracking. It's all still playable and fun so it's a tough decision tossing in another $1000 for maybe 25% better performance at most. The visual differences have tradeoffs so that is a wash.
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@@channelvr1293 Why would you need controllers in a racing game? You use the wheel or similar. And btw the controllers are just fine, whatever nonsense has been put out there is not true. They do "millimeters" just fine on my oddyssey+
yep it is a 100x better in real life.....its really hopeless to try to capture VR.... everything gets down scaled with youtube i tried but failed there....
I hope so. I would love to try but, not sure my neck would take it. I have had 5 disc replaced in my neck. I have no limitations and do everything I did before just not a little slower. I'm running 3 x 27" @144Hz right now. Nice video. @@channelvr1293
@@logo8009 i think you dont need to worry about the strain on your neck...( got 2 hernia's too ) it's firmly attached to your forehead... and doesn't really shake or move around. Dont think you will do any damage...dont go playing fps games however.... ;-)
honestly i cant wait to put them in the vive pro....gonne have to make some vids of the vive pro with and without the new lenses.. pretty sure there will be a BIG difference..
I see you're an RC heli man! Do you 3d? Have you tried Realflight g8 simulator? I've been using Rift with g8 and it's awesome. Hope to run into you on Multiplayer... same name as here :)
hi , yep i used to fly 3d....a bit rusty for the moment . Just got realflight 8 horizon horizon edition....not really happy with it always used phoenix rx... but they dont do VR... but yeah lets fly multiplayer some day...
@@channelvr1293 Wow, really? I tried Phoenix some time ago... had a few versions. I thought Phoenix was _perfectly realisitic..._ if you do most of your flying on Mars. RF is much closer to real flying... IMHO
@@channelvr1293 Another one to try is AccuRC-2. It's got pretty decent heli physics, and it does VR. Just a little rough though... not quite a finished product. Lots of glitches.
i go with the pro just not yet i still wait for the motions sickness solution aka a affordable pad you can walk on like one of those dance matress you get for ps3.. come on cant be that hard to make affordable
Gonna wait for the next generation to come out, and they have competition, I know I will buy this and something twice as good will come out 6 months down the road. I will stick with my oculus rift for now. It seems to get better every time I use it will all the updates. It looks like they stole the earphone design from the rfit.
Yep that's what i used to do...but you wait and wait and then you buy....and then something better comes out and you say "i should have waited a bit longer" so i have up there . Now i see it evaluate it and then buy it .....in technology there's always something better round the corner...
will do my best mate ...love making them ...unfortunately i have 2 full time jobs and they keep me busy from 9 o'clock in the morning till 23h at night .... 😆
yep indeed ....the big problem with filming something so close to the hmd that the focus isnt always good....we are trying to figure out how to solve this....
Samsung Odyssey + FTW! Vive looks like shit when compared in the first comparison. In the 2nd, I couldn't really tell. But in DCS, it too was a clear difference.
well on youtube it all looks the same really.. but like the answer here of John Krain its once you but them next to each other on your head you see the real difference....HTC really know what they are doing......
@@channelvr1293 Pft....like hell they do. I'm not spending $1.5K on a first gen HMD. The Samsung Odyssey + is $299 for the same resolution. The only thing the Vive Pro (with 2.0 Bay Stations) has over the Odyssey + is superior tracking capabilities. Other than that, what am I paying for? Shit lenses, the same FOV, and a shitty mic lol. I'll pass on the Pro model.
again, if you mention $ first, you've taken yourself out of the discussion. go buy your budget headset, don't come back 'till your pockets are right, then talk.
@@empowermph Hahaha! You're funny. When a HMD almost cost as much as my entire rig, it better be the best HMD available at the time but the HTC Vive pro simply isn't.
@@DJHeroMasta btw you can get vive trackers and hmd odyssey and use them together so a total of 800 dollars give you a better experience in every single way than spending 1.5k
I tried a month the Oculus, I strongly discourage, very unreal field of vision, very closed, it is hoped that Pimax, do better with a FOV greater than only 110 °.
unfortunately Pimax isnt better a lot of reports end reviews say that its feels cheap and has lots of flaws and was really over hyped. FOV is limited in all HMD's but it all depends how you use them... for one i mostly use them for VR racing so there you dont have a FOV problem because in real racing you wear a helmet so same really. And second VR for now isnt ready for big FOV meaning you actually have to keep your eyes centered all the time . You cannot look far left or right . A lot of people have no idea how to use a HMD (about 80% apparently ) I keep saying to have the best overall result your eyes have to be dead center in the HMD at all times...and you have to stare not look !! even this is hard for most people and it takes some training. That's why i think my VIVE Pro is the max and when i put other people in there they aren't that enthusiastic . I think they should but a training guide in there in the manual.
Star VR is indeed MUCH better but unfortunately... no Pc that i know of will be running ACC with a Star VR....you need 90fps and for the moment there is no GPU capable of that ....so maybe that's why HTC and Oculus don't have a better system yet...
Finally got my vive pro.. I was not really impressed with what I have seen since I have not used VR headset for a while..
So I pop out my oculus rift and vive and compare.. damn.. difference was huge. SDE is still there but it's at least 50% better than rift or regular vive and everything looked so much cleaner. i probably never be able to go back to vive or rift after using vive pro. not sure it worth $1400 for a whole set but if you have money to spare, vive pro is definitely the choice here. Sure.. it will be outclassed near future but till then, vive pro is the king..
oh.. another huge improvement they made is when things get really close to your face. those annoying cyclop effect is nearly gone with vive pro. When virtual girl gets too close to my face, I usually had to close one of my eyes to see her 2 eyes(if I open both eyes, her face would over wraps and makes her cyclops) but that thing is almost gone on vive pro. I simply can't wait how good things will look on VR headset in 2021. :)
I'm glad that finally someone is beeing honest....because i was thinking it was just me that liked the vive pro... you can only make a comparison when you really have different HMD's next to each other. Go get the vive pro upgrade lenses you will be even more impressed. I'm glad you are happy with your purchase. have fun with your VIVE PRO 👍😉
@@channelvr1293 Do you have link for pro upgrade lenses? I always hated those swirly lenses.
Why the hell did you buy that when you could get a Pimax 5K+? The Pimax has a 200 degree FOV while the Vive Pro has a 110 degree FOV. The 5K+ also has MUCH less SDE, higher resolution screens, and is compatible with both SteamVR and the Oculus client. You wasted your money. The Pimax is also much, much cheaper.
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@@BigDaddyMacc No, you get ripped off mate.
Comparison doesn’t start until until 7min.
So thankful for people like you
Thanks for the bump. I was starting to get motion sickness there for a bit,watching him go back and forth and talk with the damn camera.
It's called fluff. Some RUclipsrs like putting fluff into the videos for some unknown reason. It's like the people who feel the need to put an intro to their videos. Soooooo annoying.
thank you.
i'm so tired of everyone thinking of price 1st..should be performance 1st, then work & reward yourself with the advanced toys.
Your comparison here is pretty hard to use, as you're giving each headset just over one quarter of a 1080p youtube video. Any resolution differences are lost in that downsampling, all we can see are some differences in color, contrast, lens artifacts etc.
very true .....so i'm gonna post a part 2.....same vids but full screen maybe then you guys will see a difference.... best place to look for difference is fencing along the side of the track and shadows.
your prayers have been answered
Sorry my English, it's not my native language. I have these two VR headsets and there is a big difference between then! And, sorry to say this, but in this video you cannot see this difference, but I thanks Channel VR for have made this video. Even when you see this video trough 1080P in a big screen, you cannot see the big difference. The Vive Pro has much less SDE and you find the difference not when you pass from the original Vive to the Vive Pro, but, instead, when you get used to the Vive Pro and then, one day, you have the sad idea to try again the original Vive. Man, that hurts! The only things that the original Vive is better is that it has much lower god rays and, because it uses a lesser resolution, the image is more fluid.
I have to say you are absolutely right you hardly see the difference in this video ... and yes this video doesn't do the VIVE PRO justice. Once you put on the VIVE PRO if only for a few minutes and go back to the early VIVE the difference is immediately visible . I still use the VIVE PRO with lens upgrade.....still the best i think.
Is it worth the upgrade though?
@@replacesoundboard You got less SDE effect (that was my biggest complaint with the original Vive), more image detail, but a little more God Rays and a little less FOV. Also, you need a more powerful graphics card to get the same FPS with the Vive Pro. The strapping mechanism for the head on the Vive Pro, with earphones, is far better than the elastic band from the original Vive. Everything else is the same. It's a small improvement (the Vive Pro is the 1.2 version of the original Vive), but, yes, the improvement is there and it's hard (at least to me!) to go back to the original Vive, after you get used to the Vive Pro. As I said before, you will notice the difference, especially when you go back to the original Vive, after a couple of hours of use, not when you go for the first time to the Vive Pro.
@@josetrigueiro5978 Thanks for the reply! A long time ago, I thought the Vive Pro was nothing more than the original Vive with the deluxe audio head strap (which I purchased) in blue, but I guess it's a small improvement after all.
@@josetrigueiro5978 Well, I think you convinced me, thanks. I guess I'm lucky the Vive Pro is still being sold in Europe.
Without knowing exactly which recording is the Pro and which is the regular one, the recordings look relatively similar enough that I think I'll just keep my current original Vive. Thanks for actually recording the inside of the headsets.
In the second recording, the right video looked more blurry, but by paying attention, I noticed you could distinguish the grids on the side of the circuit, whereas the grid was more blurry on the left recording despite generally looking smooth.
still on the original vive ? waaw i'm already on the VIVE PRO 2 however to be honest the Vive Pro with lens upgrade is much better in the end. Why ...? well even my RTX4090 cant render the VIVE PRO2 in full resolution. If you have the original vive try the lens upgrade (one of my other videos) they are really worth it and the Fresnel lenses are done..
@@channelvr1293 I guess I'll have a look whether or not it's an easy upgrade, thanks.
@@channelvr1293 I was told the Vive Pro uses OLED, which kind of works better to render darkness in comparison to the LCD used in the Vive Pro 2
Me:plays Minecraft on oculus quest2
HTC vive pro:hello and welcome to hell would u like to play with me
ME:YO I DIDN’T ORDER U
HTC vive pro:well ur friend sended me to u
ME:YO GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE
The main problem with the Vive (I got both) is that there is only a very small area in the center focus that is actually sharp. As soon as your eye travels around it gets unsharp. I guess this is due to the rubbish lenses. But having high quality lenses would probably raise the price by 100%
hi, i'm making a video about the lens upgrade and boy is iot wurth it .....will put online soon .. ;-)
That's surprising... The Vive original looks more vibrant colour wise
From the first test anyhow
100 degree FOV is a non-starter for me. I think once foveated rendering is available with Pimax 5K BE - that's the one I will go for. But I think the world is ready for a 2160p resolution per eye display.
i'm certainly ready for anything better... just not for the price of another kidney...ooops already sold that one...
Yes try to look better. Star one Vr FOV 210° horizontal and 130° vertical what that price.that is 3200 dollar !!! Hahaha i'm not kidding. But you got everything ex. Fov like a human eye , good tracking anything
Vive Pro has same lenses as Vive, like other RUclipsrs discovered. The sharpness is raised a bit, but it's still pentile AMOLED. Samsung WMR has same resolution as Vive Pro, and it's a lot cheaper. A LOT.
But if you have not much money, you can try Lenovo / Medion WMR headset. You can have one for 200. It works also good for racing, and SDE is better due normel RGB LCD screens. Much less black space and so pixels are more harder to seen.
I understand this comparsion has flaw with wrong resolution, 1080p camera cannot see more than 1080p pixels, so both looked very same. You should use macro lens on camera, because we want see pixels, sharpness and Screen Door Effect.
Other RUclipsrs did it at correct way with macro shots.
Otherwise, good try but not perfect enough to answer some questions.
Best thing you can do is have a look at the second video start @ 4.44 and then go to 9.18 if you dont see a difference then well ... (using same cameras btw) ..no use using higher resolution because well like my eye specialist said we dont seen in resolution (your eye) the only thing they have to get rid of is pixels because that you can see. I own the best oled 4K tv out there and still if i stand within 5 cm of the screen i can still see pixels. Your vive is on your head so even if they use 4k displays in there you will still see a fine mesh in front of you ...just look at the pimax 8k and 5k reviews honestly not much better than the vive pro... HTC new that already hence the reason they did not make this kind of headset.....
having changed the lenses on both vive's made a real difference...gone are the godrays . Now we dont need better vr headsets we need better GPU's to cope with the framerate at high resolutions. ;-)
You can definitely tell while in the vehicle. Outside of it though (where the real racing matter) it is less evident. I had the Odyssey+ and sent that back, as it was a little blurry due to the anti-SDE stuff. I tried supersampling, but my computer isn't strong enough. So I went back to the Rift and will run that until the next round of headsets and GPUs don't cost 2 arms and a leg. Though, at least you have the full Vive setup (I had the original), and can upgrade to something like the PiMax 5K+ or whatever comes afterwards and only have to purchase the headset and not the complete setup again.
A VR headset with a FOV of 100-110 will never be good enough for racing sims. The lack of peripheral vision not only limits the immersion but it totally kills the sense of speed since the speed is caused by objects whizzing past your peripheral view. It's like driving with blinkers on.
have you ever worn a race helmet ? this together with a fireproof hood.... believe me i have lots of times and you can't see shit sometimes.... that's why this VR thing on my head makes the immersion even more real for me ...and you sweat like hell in both of them 😎😁 there will be better HMD in the future for sure i i cant wait to own one ...but like i already said a millon times...no use having the best 8K 360FOV headset out there if your pc can only render 20pfs.....so first things first and that's GPU power...and lots of it...
@@channelvr1293 He probably never even tried a racing game in VR.
Absolute bullshit
A great comparison, thank you. 'Holy grail' is the kind of comment that I was hoping to hear.
Thank you so much for all your effort, we can clearly see the amount of trouble you went through!
yep lol thanks ...i have 2 full time jobs so yeah... i'm trying....
Boa tarde
Essas câmeras frontais servem para que?
Eu tenho um Oculus Rift CV1 e estou querendo trocar, pegar um melhor e estava pensando no HTC Vive mas tem varias versões desde a Vive pura que não tem essa câmera frontal até o Pro e Pro 2 e muito difícil você ver o produto de perto, testar, ver as diferenças e saber qual agrada o gosto.
Aqui no Brasil não vemos muita coisa e o valor do Vive Pro 2 chega a custar uns $5.000,00 (cinco mil dólares americanos)
Ok had to translate this...lol😃 so the cameras for now do absolutely nothing unless you are a developer... I got the vive , vive pro and now the vive pro2. Have to say don't go for the pro2 doesn't perform as good even with the higher resolution. Higher resolution means less frames and more expensive gpu's.
I prefer my vive pro with the 40 euro lens upgrade and believe me ...it's amazing 👏 🙀
Oh BTW I'm selling a brand new in the box vive pro for 350 € will probably be too expensive to ship to Brazil 🤔.
@@channelvr1293 finding these lens updates here in Brazil is complicated, Vive or any VR here in Brazil is very expensive, 5 to 6 times more than in the USA and Europe.
@@channelvr1293 finding these lens updates here in Brazil is complicated, Vive or any VR here in Brazil is very expensive, 5 to 6 times more than in the USA and Europe.
Looking at your camera views of the 2 vive units, the Vive pro looks a little clearer at times by watching the dash display. But other than that it is hard to tell if there is any big differences between the two units. Almost have to put on the headsets to get a feel or comparison of both Vive units. Right now I have the Oculus Rift- I like my unit, but the resolutions are not there yet for the Rift. Thanks for the video though.
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i have tried both of the headsets and can say this video does not show what they truly look like. normal vives screen door effect is horrendous compared to the pro. try drawing really small tik tak toe board and flip it diagonally, thats what the normal vive looks like while on the other hand the pro has more than twice smaller "tik tak toe board" than the normal vive.
Nice touch with the Ferrari steering wheel. I couldn't help but notice you had your headsets just sitting on the table. I currently make stands for the HTC Vive and would love to send you a couple if you are interested!
Well thanks .... stands are good if you have a table to put the stands on... but the tray in the video was just to test out the vive's they always hang on the top end of my race chair that's handy when your in the sim rig you just have to grab behind you. Still i you would like me to review your stands yeah with pleasure...and i would return them to you.
btw thanks for the SUB mate 👍😉
@@channelvr1293 That would be awesome! I got your email off your youtube page and will email you for where you want it sent! Keep Gaming!
Gameplay starts at 7:15
Just some foreigner rambling about god knows what before then
"They hated sammy because he told them the truth."
I wanna know when htc will make driving cockpit like that...WOW. really, im still trying to get the blurr out of my vive. maybe its the games. only played star trek but only thing nice is the control panel but everything else is ...not sure if fuzzy is the right word...but its not like a HD super crisp image either.
I honestly think they shouldn't sell vive or any other HMD for that matter online or in shops... i say this because HMD are not plug and play things... i have been to other HTC owners and put there VIVE on my head and i went like WHAT ? or i have a special VIVE or there is something wrong with all the other vives because non of them compare to mine....
First i went to a optician to astablisch my IPD (interpupillary distance ) that's a start to seeing and reading nearby text better in VR... then the HMD must be DEAD center in front of your pupils meaning not only horizontal (IPD) but also vertical... try looking at a text in VR and move the HMD up and down (like millimeters) you will notice the difference.
with any HMD it wil always look like you are looking threw a piece of fine silk.. there will always be pixels....even the 4K ones and 8K ones have pixels...cant avoid them...
in your case i'm pretty sure its 70% to do with your setup and not the HMD.
12:47..ok, this one really surprised me, I thought for sure that clarity in the wheel was Pro.
Hi, nice video and made me miss flying my heli's lol :( oh well hobbies change and sim racing is more for me these days. What is the non-motion rig, with the red seat? Looks very solid
yep have about 20 helis and planes but there just sitting there for the moment....hmmm.... yep the non motion seat is one i made myself...busy making a new video about how to make a 200 euro simrig. coming soon. ;-)
Hi nice comparison, are you about to review the prosimu 3dof?do you thing its good enough mixed with vr? Or isnt it enough and are u thinking about updating to the 5dof?
yep gonna do a vid on that too....but dont think i'm gonna go for a 5 DOF... it has to end somewhere....LOL
DCS showed a slight advantage to the Pro..otherwise, they look so much alike & I'm very ocd with details, I don't see it.
Freeze frame at 12:22 and I would have guessed the pro was on the left lol. It's really hard to tell what one is better.
yep .... i realise the problem.....that is me not putting the camera dead center in the vive lens.....pfff need to find a different way to do this....or smaller 4K camera that doesn't constantly focus in and out....
@@channelvr1293 I'll check the other video out later. :) Thanks for posting regardless.
9:24 , I thought the bottom was the regular vive Because the top looked better.... Vive " PRO "
I didn’t you can used the drive station with the vive setup. Maybe you could make a video about this
Excellent comparison, waiting for my Oculus Rift S to arrive next week by the looks of it it will be somewhere in the middle of the vive and vive pro
well thanks mate not everyone seems to think so but at least i tried..... the vive pro is much better and with the lens upgrade it is awesome..
Question: And by adding the lenses you got additionally the same improvement on the vive pro as you had between vive and vive pro, is that right?
good question... with the lenses i improved the normal VIVE but not up to the standerd of the VIVE PRO by just adding lenses you dont increase resolution but the Fresnel lenses didnt really help the readability of text or along the side of your viewing angle. That said adding de lenses really improved the smoothness everything looks more polished. The Fresnel lenses where a real pain. So yes both vive's improved by the lenses and give you the illusion that the resolution is higher but of course we all know that is not true. But hey if it tricks the mind and the eyes i'm not complaining for a 40 euro upgrade.
T vb Got it, thanks very much for your reply! Ordered the Vive Pro and the lens upgrade, curious to see how it is!
Nice video, thanks for the efforts. Stupid me that I missed it and saw it just now. I will get my Vive Pro tomorrow for my Sim Rig.
and get yourself the new lenses too.... got a video ready to post tomorrow about that .....even better
Yes I will watch your lense upgrade video. Thanks for showing all that!
Congratulations rift the pro!
I thought the vive was the vive pro
with the first comparison, i was all "ok yea that is definitely the vive pro down there.. you can actually read the dash..." but then the second comparison started, and i was like "oook... this one I can read the timer while the other is a blur... but.... it doesn't look all that sharp... what?" and then the 'reveal' happened and I'm all "ok yea... that's definitely caused by the camera placement.. its just out of focus"... so all in all, i'd say while yea this is kinda cool to actually see what its like in there via a camera... but if you can't get it set up properly, its pointless....
But eh.... people will probably still get the normal Vive because holy SHIT 1.4 thousand dollars for a headset... is fucking STUPID....
No one can possibly use the excuse "well its new technology so it needs to be expensive to cover research costs..." uh, fuck no. They made a Vive for under 800 bucks... THAT product was the fruit of their research and development... this new "Vive Pro"? Nah... That was just "hey lets throw in some more cameras to the front and increase the screen resolution!"... there was hardly ANY 'research and development' involved with that... so the justification for a 1.4k VR headset is just stupid... They just wanted to gobble up all that RUclips money from RUclipsrs buying them left and right because they have tens of thousands of dollars to blow a year...
You say it best!! HTC tryes Apple pricing policy with Vive pro. Take shit load of money from customers without giving almost nothing new for them. You get 3 rifts with Vive pro price!!!
@@varmatappo To be fair, its really like, 1 1/2 of a normal vive if you buy a vive pro. Only the 'full kit' is $1,000+. And I honestly don't understand why that is. There's nothing new about the controllers, or the light houses... so why it costs $1,000+ for a 'full kit' when a 'full kit' with the normal Vive is only around $400ish, is insanely confusing.
Yes I compare full kit prices of Vive pro and Oculus rift. Here in Finland Vive pro full kit cost 1599€ and Oculus rift with touch controllers is 469€. So you get 3 rift's full kits with one Vivo pro full kit price XD
@@varmatappo Still only slightly true. You don't ever actually GET a 'full rift kit'. You still need that 3rd sensor for reliable room scale tracking sadly. Sure you can 'get away' with 2, but its still often glitchy. So that's another $60-80 dollars depending on where ya buy it and sale prices.
Rift is good if ya want 'quick and cheap', but I'm still one of those people that say to save up for at least a normal Vive if you want the most outa your money. Its more 'future proof' and doesn't rely on needing additional components. You could easily just buy a normal Vive, and eventually upgrade to a Vive Pro once they go on sale. Where as with a Rift, you're stuck with 'only the Rift' since nothing else is out. T-T I'd love to see a new Rift come out. Specially if they maintained the cheap price. But I'm ALSO not much of a Facebook fan... so I wouldn't really want to give them my money even if they did sadly.
You just earn your 500th subscriber because I’ve watched you a few times of late before purchasing a vive pro and doing a gear VR lens mod and your very informative without the usual bullshit youtubers do,not sure if you’ve tried one yet but the valve index is amazing unit you might like to try with your sim racing setups,the clarity’s amazing on that thing,the lenses were just not good for my eyes personally though and I heard they have double lenses or something so they’re gonna be hard to mod,anyway keep doing what your doing 👍
Thanks mate... And 500 👍😜. A milestone for me just a sigh for others.
Channel VR we’re near the stage that VR is getting ready to blow up,you have the foundations and hopefully you should go along with it nicely,good luck
I want to get into the vr world. Money is not a problem.. Is the vive pro seriously worth it? In my neighborhood vive pro is $1000 more expensive for the bundle. I would have to buy the headphone strap for the regular vive & would get a wireless adapter for either. I want a vr experience that is the highest quality.. But from what ive seen the pro dosnt really have a noticeable difference over graphics. I crossed the rift off my list in favor of the regular vive.
Also looking into what pimax is doing..
I have an i7 6700k with gtx 1080
hi, well Pimax isn't a option with a GTX1080 you will need a RTX 2080TI at least..and honestly it all depends what you want to do with your headset .....Racing? arcade ? or FPS ... i would recommend the VIVE PRO to everyone because it is much better than anything i have put on my head ...(haven't tried pimax yet but have seen very good reviews about it and i'm not impressed) now trying ACC with the pro and its amazing... i have the luxury to have 2 pc's running both vive's at the same time and everyone that swaps over from one to another is 100% convinced that pro is 10x better then the vive...unfortunately this really didn't show that much in my videos because capturing VR and then showing it on youtube is impossible... its like LG trying to show their latest 4K Tv on youtube...doesn't work...
That said .... buy yourself the VIVE PRO and a RTX2080TI , thats 2500 euro you said money is no problem lol ;-) and a set of new lenses..40 euro and you will have the time of your life....
@@channelvr1293
Pimax 5k plus will not work with a 1080?
oh yes it will but the most important in vr is having a framerate of 90fps if you dont wanne get sick...so the higher the VR resolution the lower the fps....
same boat, & I agree, so let me know what you decide.
..for FPS & Racing..I have GTX1080..should I dive into Pro, or Vive is fine for now to start, then upgrade later? will i be disappointed & exchange it for a Pro?
Um which is which??
Really great concept video, hard for me to tell the difference though, especially with AC's brightness set so high it looks whitewashed. Keep up the great work though. I wonder if I'll have a harder time streaming while racing with the Vive Pro with more resolution.
Good thing your having a helper there with you!.. ;)
Nice vid, but I couldn't guess whitch was which..
made a sequel... should be much clearer...
Sorry to have to Point this out but it looks like there are a few problems with this comparison. First, is your camera filming in 1080? Or is that because you uploaded in 1080 eather way we can't see the difference except from colour.
actually the best thing i can do is take pictures instead of movie . Then the difference is very obvious gonna take some pictures ......there is a huge difference best you can do is not look at the road but at the fencing and the car display...
Do you feel any eye disconfort? It it possible to use it to 1 hour daily training?
well i have really BAD eye site...meaning i have to wear lenses and i over wear them ..meaning i wear them for more then 13H a day and i only supposed to wear them 8H so NO even with my very dry eyes end lenses i have never had a issue with eye discomfort. Any discomfort comes from the band and sweat you may produce because of the heat while wearing it.
I think the Vive looked way better than the Pro, but then again I'm not getting paid for my review.
EUUh where did you get the idea that i get payed to say stuff.....Nope work for my money and pay for everything myself....and true you can hardly see the difference...but in front of your eyes at only 2 cm away the difference is very obvious.
Great video but difficult to see on video, I have a triple 40 inch and a Odyssey I use them both when it is summer I use the triples otherwise when it is cooler the Odyssey.
But i canyt use overlay programs in vr such as Z1 software only on the triples
And the WMR headsets has no occulus core 2 software to monitor that in VR :-(
yep well you got the visual so indeed very hard to see the difference like i said in the vid.... the difference is miner but there is definitely a difference....
i think cheaper is try to get samsung odyssey. it have better lenses but same display as in vive pro
yes and No.....Dont forget the tracking with vive is the best on the market.... its down to the mm (millimeter) i can move my controllers up to a few Millimeters that's really astonishing .
Odyssey, like the Gear VR, appears like the cheap undercut option, but most content will have native support for Vive, Rift or PSVR..everything else is out for now, especially the controller setup, too important.
III Yes that seems the biggest issue. Side by side comparisons of Odyssey (+) and VPro, the VPro runs better out of thr box and I am more comfortable and immersed. Settings are tweakable tho. I may still keep the Odyssey owing to price and knowing it won't be my last VR system. I can afford both but that's not the point. Still, VPro does seem better including tracking and even button response. For instance in Space Pirate trainer I constantly miss the swap from gun to shield and have difficulty pressing for the correct type of gun - with the Odyssey. It's smooth with the VPro. Boxing - unable to block with my head down is a downer with the WMR tracking. It's all still playable and fun so it's a tough decision tossing in another $1000 for maybe 25% better performance at most. The visual differences have tradeoffs so that is a wash.
@@channelvr1293 Why would you need controllers in a racing game? You use the wheel or similar. And btw the controllers are just fine, whatever nonsense has been put out there is not true. They do "millimeters" just fine on my oddyssey+
@ well i do play games like Onward and other stuff too. so decent tracing is a must .
Sorry the resolution looks really bad. Is it better in real time?
yep it is a 100x better in real life.....its really hopeless to try to capture VR.... everything gets down scaled with youtube i tried but failed there....
I hope so. I would love to try but, not sure my neck would take it. I have had 5 disc replaced in my neck. I have no limitations and do everything I did before just not a little slower. I'm running 3 x 27" @144Hz right now. Nice video. @@channelvr1293
@@logo8009 i think you dont need to worry about the strain on your neck...( got 2 hernia's too ) it's firmly attached to your forehead... and doesn't really shake or move around. Dont think you will do any damage...dont go playing fps games however.... ;-)
I am waiting for the video about the lenses, have to be very interesting too.
honestly i cant wait to put them in the vive pro....gonne have to make some vids of the vive pro with and without the new lenses.. pretty sure there will be a BIG difference..
Dude you got stop playing with the headsets as the noises is insane...nice try but it’s really hard to see any difference
I see absolutely no difference
ikr, the vive has a slight bit too much contrast but not a difference worth $700
I see you're an RC heli man! Do you 3d? Have you tried Realflight g8 simulator? I've been using Rift with g8 and it's awesome. Hope to run into you on Multiplayer... same name as here :)
hi , yep i used to fly 3d....a bit rusty for the moment . Just got realflight 8 horizon horizon edition....not really happy with it always used phoenix rx... but they dont do VR... but yeah lets fly multiplayer some day...
@@channelvr1293 Wow, really? I tried Phoenix some time ago... had a few versions. I thought Phoenix was _perfectly realisitic..._ if you do most of your flying on Mars. RF is much closer to real flying... IMHO
@@channelvr1293 Another one to try is AccuRC-2. It's got pretty decent heli physics, and it does VR. Just a little rough though... not quite a finished product. Lots of glitches.
i go with the pro
just not yet
i still wait for the motions sickness solution aka a affordable pad you can walk on
like one of those dance matress you get for ps3.. come on cant be that hard to make affordable
idk why im watching this i couldnt afford either if i tried lol
But .......maybe one day you will..... and you will be prepared...LOL ;-)
@@channelvr1293 that's slightly motivating that somebody believes I can do something lol
can i get those lenses for the regular vive
I heard that Samsung Odyseey+ VR has Anti Side Door Effect.
ANTI SIDE DOOR EFFECT .... never heard of it ..... do you mean SCREEN DOOR EFFECT ?
@@channelvr1293 I must've been tired but yeah... that's what I meant lol screen door effect.
@@Dan.Burcea no worries mate, actually the screen door effect with the new lenses in my vive pro is next to nothing....really good
Not worth the extra buck IMO. Wait for further development .
Wow, The vive actually look's the same.
and they're charging so much more for this. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the comparison!
Are you watching the same video? The vive pro focus point is far greater and the screen door affect is little to none
Just look at the small text, for example... you'll see the difference quite clearly.
Gonna wait for the next generation to come out, and they have competition, I know I will buy this and something twice as good will come out 6 months down the road. I will stick with my oculus rift for now. It seems to get better every time I use it will all the updates. It looks like they stole the earphone design from the rfit.
Yep that's what i used to do...but you wait and wait and then you buy....and then something better comes out and you say "i should have waited a bit longer" so i have up there .
Now i see it evaluate it and then buy it .....in technology there's always something better round the corner...
Did you undo the gear vr mod?
in this video i was still using the original lenses.
More more videos like this, other sims etc
will do my best mate ...love making them ...unfortunately i have 2 full time jobs and they keep me busy from 9 o'clock in the morning till 23h at night .... 😆
Nice video, thanks for the comparison ! ;0)
the vive pro is very blurry , probably because of the video or camera.
yep indeed ....the big problem with filming something so close to the hmd that the focus isnt always good....we are trying to figure out how to solve this....
T-rex 550 :P I do smackdown 3d with that 8s setup
Samsung Odyssey + FTW! Vive looks like shit when compared in the first comparison. In the 2nd, I couldn't really tell. But in DCS, it too was a clear difference.
well on youtube it all looks the same really.. but like the answer here of John Krain its once you but them next to each other on your head you see the real difference....HTC really know what they are doing......
@@channelvr1293 Pft....like hell they do. I'm not spending $1.5K on a first gen HMD. The Samsung Odyssey + is $299 for the same resolution. The only thing the Vive Pro (with 2.0 Bay Stations) has over the Odyssey + is superior tracking capabilities. Other than that, what am I paying for? Shit lenses, the same FOV, and a shitty mic lol. I'll pass on the Pro model.
again, if you mention $ first, you've taken yourself out of the discussion. go buy your budget headset, don't come back 'till your pockets are right, then talk.
@@empowermph Hahaha! You're funny. When a HMD almost cost as much as my entire rig, it better be the best HMD available at the time but the HTC Vive pro simply isn't.
@@DJHeroMasta btw you can get vive trackers and hmd odyssey and use them together so a total of 800 dollars give you a better experience in every single way than spending 1.5k
I tried a month the Oculus, I strongly discourage, very unreal field of vision, very closed, it is hoped that Pimax, do better with a FOV greater than only 110 °.
unfortunately Pimax isnt better a lot of reports end reviews say that its feels cheap and has lots of flaws and was really over hyped.
FOV is limited in all HMD's but it all depends how you use them... for one i mostly use them for VR racing so there you dont have a FOV problem because in real racing you wear a helmet so same really. And second VR for now isnt ready for big FOV meaning you actually have to keep your eyes centered all the time . You cannot look far left or right . A lot of people have no idea how to use a HMD (about 80% apparently ) I keep saying to have the best overall result your eyes have to be dead center in the HMD at all times...and you have to stare not look !! even this is hard for most people and it takes some training. That's why i think my VIVE Pro is the max and when i put other people in there they aren't that enthusiastic . I think they should but a training guide in there in the manual.
2 mins in this review and got no information... next vid
ADHS much.
You just got a new Sub your Channel deserve more then 200 sub keep it up and we support you on your work cheers
Thanks mate ;-) i'm not in it for the money just for fun so hey.... see it as a select club... members only LOL
Channel VR im in your Club ;)
Same
ty video!
Ffs just show the comparison
this is youtube my friend not TV ...so you can FF to where you want to be...or just not watch at all...LOL....
Buy star VR if you want better
Star VR is indeed MUCH better but unfortunately... no Pc that i know of will be running ACC with a Star VR....you need 90fps and for the moment there is no GPU capable of that ....so maybe that's why HTC and Oculus don't have a better system yet...
Wow let's show off rc collection, stand still man, the drunken wobble is killing it bye.
video starts here 6:58 thank me later :D