I share your passion for TIG welding and have all three venues in my shop. Two things I can recommend ... #1. The electrode "stick-out" rule of thumb is the same as the diameter of the welding cup. #2. VEVOR wisely provides an extravagant torch lead but little regard for the wall cord. This is easily remedied by fabricating an extension cord using 10/2 Romex. You can use a healthy length with virtually no voltage drop.
Thanks, I never heard that about the welding cup. I just tried a gas lens (diffuser) for the torch and was very impressed. It's not drastic but I do get a better weld
Honestly, I think it probably works as well as any other welder. It might not last as long or have all the options but for basic steel welding it's perfect. I think inverter technology has advanced a lot and standardized. I'm guessing the internal components are shared with many welder brands.
Excellent review winky, I bought a magdrill from vevor a couple months ago very satisfied with it and bought some forklift forks for the tractor, so far I'm impressed with vevor products, great video buddy,keep'um coming..
Impressive little Tig Welder, I've never Tig welded before. I was taught how to Stick weld from my father at the age of 15, and loved it ever since, I have a huge Lincoln Ranger 225 welder/generator. And a small Lincoln Mig welder. I will definitely look into a tig welder now, love your video. Keep up the Great content, and thank you for sharing winky
Thanks for the review. I don't "NEED" TIG very often as I have a stick welder and can gas weld and braze but there are times when TIG is just the right way to do something. Your self releasing mill drawbar is a perfect example. I didn't want to spend north of $500 but this fills the need painlessly. Vevor say argon is necessary but do you know of any reason CO₂ wouldn't work for carbon steel?
Stay with argon. Short story, I got a MIG tank by mistake. The welding shop messed up. MIG uses argon and 25% CO2. It worked, but not well. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why I could not make a good weld. After 2 days I figured it out. Apparently using straight argon for MIG is a problem too although I have not tried this.
@@WinkysWorkshop Thank you for getting back to me. While HF Start is indeed a crucial feature for optimizing the welding experience, our TIG200P offers many other great features, such as the unique Dash-Arc technology ensuring a 99% arc success rate, SYN intelligent CNC, and possibly the best budget AC/DC TIG Machine. If you're interested, I'd be happy to send one for your review. I really enjoy the content and video style of your channel. Thanks again for your time.
Mr Winky, things I’ve learnt about welding Tig or mig is don’t rely on hose clamps, buy a hose that’s correct for the welder, also have many Vevor products and been happy with them 👍👴🏻
With a straight but joint and no bevel I would expect you should be able to do the weld without filler rod. You may actually get better penetration as you watch the puddle form.
Years ago, did a lot of welding with everything from Oxy Acetylene to stick, Mig and Tig . Used Mig 95% of the time for thin to medium thickness Steel and some Stainless steel Stick - Thicker Steel, occasionally Cast iron (a real bear in the summer) TIG was for strictly aluminum I will caveat things- the TIG was a old school Craftsman Hi Frequency box on a Lincoln tombstone - never have tried with a modern TIG Side note, we had to be "mindful of when we did any TIG- It would screw up the Cable TV for half the town, and the ladies really didn't appreciate missing the soap operas ....
I think TIG is perfect for the home shop. You can weld fairly thick and thin steel with a lot of control. MIG is definitely faster but not as versatile. My other TIG is AC and very loud. I wonder if it creates tv and radio interference?
A question that I don't think you addressed in the video? Does this machine start the arc with the button, or do you need to drag/strike the electrode? Also wondered if you figured out what Clean Mode was for? Thanks
Yes absolutely! This machine has a HF (High Frequency) start. The model in the video is no longer available but the link in the description has been updated to the newer model which also has HF start. In my opinion, if you don't need to weld aluminum this is the welder to buy. I have a more expensive TIG welder that has all sorts of settings but the VEVOR welder is my go to welder. It's simple and effective.
@@larrythompson2967 I have welded aluminum maybe 3 times but it more complex than steel. Every time I do it I have to practice for 20 minute before I start welding on something important. I guess if I did it enough I'd be good at it but I just don't need to weld aluminum very often. The hardest thing for me to deal with is the need for less amperage as the aluminum get hot. Steel is unaffected. Apparently aluminums melting point it low enough that when you are welding hot metal it heats up to the melting point quicker. A foot peddle to control the amperage is a plus. I have one but two problems I have with the foot peddle are. 1) coordination. It adds a variable and you have to develop a feel for it. 2) Using a foot peddle requires you to weld at a bench sitting down or at least comfortable. For me its way easier to set the amperage and go but with aluminum the approach is a little more problematic. Newer AC welders also have settings that are hard to understand (at least for me) You can adjust the frequency and also the percent of the time its in a positive or negative polarity. This effects what they call cleaning. Apparently 30% cleaning makes the polarity one direction for a percent of the AC cycle. If you make the setting too high the electrode gets dirty and if you don't have enough it makes a bad weld. I've actually made a few nice welds but I'm just not willing to stick with it and get good at it. I just don't need to do it often enough to worry about it.
You maybe right. They did not create this problem a few month ago but maybe one of them is going bad. I thought it was the VFD on my Hardinge but it was off.
For these tig devices with constand cooling its very importand you regurarly blow out the dust and put the device not to close to the working spot. I fabrikate regularly and do a lot of metal sanding. Metal dust that gets sucked in by the ventilator will short circuit and fry the print plates. Best is to remove the outer casing of the device a few times a year.....just blowing some compressed air at the ventilation openings does not do a good job.
That was a great review Winky. The machine is obviously limited to light duty welding but that is what most hobbyists do. I weld most metals together with flux core MIG. I have a tig welder but no reason to weld anything and no gas. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
@@WinkysWorkshop I did say Theoretically... I know power standards vary from state to state, but up here 120V @ 15 A is a standard U-ground Receptacle. So through a "perfect" conversion circuit, 12V @ 150 A is what is expected. Regardless of whether you are 100-120V @ 20 amps, that welder seems to be eating a lot of power...
@@trollforge From what I am reading most 120v welders will go to 90 amp and if they are inverter 110 amp. I never tried to see what mine would go to but it tripped the breaker at 130 amp
@@WinkysWorkshop you are probably right Mark, I haven't done any research on the matter, since I was trying to decide whether to keep the 2nd MIG welder, or which one to get rid of... and I have forgotten most of that...
I recently did a review on this welder on my channel but it had the pulse mode. I had a couple of grips with it. It does not come as a complete kit. It is missing a gas regulator and no stick welding stinger. Also yeah the ID of the gas hose is odd ball and I also had trouble with it leaking at the gauge. I had to double hose clamp it. Otherwise it welded just fine.
Yep. I have pulse on my other welder and its useless in my opinion, this one was $10 cheaper. I replaced the hose.... the lack regulator and stick holder was expected. Have you ever figured out the clean mode?
I like the pulse mode because it helps to control the heat better I think since there is no option for a foot pedal to be able to do that.. The clean mode requires you to buy some special gun Vevor sells. You use it to go over your welds with it and it cleans them as I understand it.@@WinkysWorkshop
Seriously, I'm not a professional welder. I'd like to know why you think. Penetration perhaps? The only negatives I saw was a lack of instructions and a wimpy ground clamp. I think the amount of penetrations is never going to be as much as a stick welder and I've found that there are limitation with amperage on a TIG. Over heating will lead to boiling metal and porosity. But perhaps I'm wrong... I'm not defending the welder just my observations. Maybe you are right. Please enlighten me.
Reviews do two things, it enables me to afford items for the shop for more videos and also makes people aware of products that are available. I don't intend on making my channel all reviews. I'd hate to lose you as a subscriber but do what you gotta do. Also, in this case I didn't need the welder. This was strictly for the viewers. I gained a welder I don't need. As it turns out, it seems to be a very good welder for the money.
@@WinkysWorkshop All good sir, nothing personal, just Vevor fatigue at this point. Glad they support you, not judging your decisions, just dislike the brand and their way of buying reviews by hawking free stuff to creators. Takes away credibility and makes the discerning viewer wonder if the products would review as well if content creators had to pay sticker price for them.
@@desertdweller9548I do understand, no offence taken. I do reviews with the understanding that it will be 100% honest. I told Vevor that if the review is mostly bad that I will give them the option on stop the review. So far I think I have reviewed maybe 6 products over a 3 year period. One time I told them my review had a lot of negative and the said, publish the video anyway and about a month ago I refused to do a review on a mill vice. It was terrible. My next video will be a review of an ultrasonic cleaner and after that Im back to project videos.
@@WinkysWorkshop I actually wish more of the bad reviews were published. Otherwise the availability heuristic gives people the idea that none of their products are turds. Appreciate the honesty though.
I share your passion for TIG welding and have all three venues in my shop. Two things I can recommend ...
#1. The electrode "stick-out" rule of thumb is the same as the diameter of the welding cup.
#2. VEVOR wisely provides an extravagant torch lead but little regard for the wall cord. This is easily remedied by fabricating an extension cord using 10/2 Romex. You can use a healthy length with virtually no voltage drop.
Thanks, I never heard that about the welding cup. I just tried a gas lens (diffuser) for the torch and was very impressed. It's not drastic but I do get a better weld
Dang, that works better than I thought it would.
Honestly, I think it probably works as well as any other welder. It might not last as long or have all the options but for basic steel welding it's perfect. I think inverter technology has advanced a lot and standardized. I'm guessing the internal components are shared with many welder brands.
Excellent review winky, I bought a magdrill from vevor a couple months ago very satisfied with it and bought some forklift forks for the tractor, so far I'm impressed with vevor products, great video buddy,keep'um coming..
They seem to have good value most the time. This welder seems to be great.
Good testing,Mark.Since I don´t use TIG,you made me learn a lot.Thank you.
You're welcome.
Impressive little Tig Welder, I've never Tig welded before. I was taught how to Stick weld from my father at the age of 15, and loved it ever since, I have a huge Lincoln Ranger 225 welder/generator. And a small Lincoln Mig welder. I will definitely look into a tig welder now, love your video. Keep up the Great content, and thank you for sharing winky
Thanks, I think you'll love TIG. It's slower than mig but you have a lot more control.
A sweet little unit.
I agree, hard to beat for the price!
Nice review.
Pretty good deal for the cost.
Have a great day.
I agree.
Thanks for the review. I don't "NEED" TIG very often as I have a stick welder and can gas weld and braze but there are times when TIG is just the right way to do something. Your self releasing mill drawbar is a perfect example. I didn't want to spend north of $500 but this fills the need painlessly. Vevor say argon is necessary but do you know of any reason CO₂ wouldn't work for carbon steel?
Stay with argon. Short story, I got a MIG tank by mistake. The welding shop messed up. MIG uses argon and 25% CO2. It worked, but not well. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why I could not make a good weld. After 2 days I figured it out. Apparently using straight argon for MIG is a problem too although I have not tried this.
Great review Mark. Would you be interested in trying Arccaptain welding machine?
I'm sure you have a good product but your welders do not have HF start for TIG and this is my preferred method for welding.
@@WinkysWorkshop Thank you for getting back to me. While HF Start is indeed a crucial feature for optimizing the welding experience, our TIG200P offers many other great features, such as the unique Dash-Arc technology ensuring a 99% arc success rate, SYN intelligent CNC, and possibly the best budget AC/DC TIG Machine. If you're interested, I'd be happy to send one for your review. I really enjoy the content and video style of your channel. Thanks again for your time.
Mr Winky, things I’ve learnt about welding Tig or mig is don’t rely on hose clamps, buy a hose that’s correct for the welder, also have many Vevor products and been happy with them 👍👴🏻
I agree... I bought the right size hose. Yes... overall vevor seems to have good value
Very neat, Vevor have some good gear..
Sometimes it's hit and miss. Like the mill table I reviewed, it had good and bad... this welder was mostly good... Very nice welder.
With a straight but joint and no bevel I would expect you should be able to do the weld without filler rod. You may actually get better penetration as you watch the puddle form.
You are probably right. A little slower might have been better too.
Years ago, did a lot of welding with everything from Oxy Acetylene to stick, Mig and Tig .
Used Mig 95% of the time for thin to medium thickness Steel and some Stainless steel
Stick - Thicker Steel, occasionally Cast iron (a real bear in the summer)
TIG was for strictly aluminum
I will caveat things- the TIG was a old school Craftsman Hi Frequency box on a Lincoln tombstone - never have tried with a modern TIG
Side note, we had to be "mindful of when we did any TIG- It would screw up the Cable TV for half the town, and the ladies really didn't appreciate missing the soap operas ....
I think TIG is perfect for the home shop. You can weld fairly thick and thin steel with a lot of control. MIG is definitely faster but not as versatile. My other TIG is AC and very loud. I wonder if it creates tv and radio interference?
A question that I don't think you addressed in the video? Does this machine start the arc with the button, or do you need to drag/strike the electrode? Also wondered if you figured out what Clean Mode was for? Thanks
Yes absolutely! This machine has a HF (High Frequency) start. The model in the video is no longer available but the link in the description has been updated to the newer model which also has HF start. In my opinion, if you don't need to weld aluminum this is the welder to buy. I have a more expensive TIG welder that has all sorts of settings but the VEVOR welder is my go to welder. It's simple and effective.
@@WinkysWorkshop Excellent, thank you. I also mostly weld steel, it would be nice to be able to do aluminium, but luckily, I have a friend that can.
@@larrythompson2967 I have welded aluminum maybe 3 times but it more complex than steel. Every time I do it I have to practice for 20 minute before I start welding on something important. I guess if I did it enough I'd be good at it but I just don't need to weld aluminum very often. The hardest thing for me to deal with is the need for less amperage as the aluminum get hot. Steel is unaffected. Apparently aluminums melting point it low enough that when you are welding hot metal it heats up to the melting point quicker. A foot peddle to control the amperage is a plus. I have one but two problems I have with the foot peddle are. 1) coordination. It adds a variable and you have to develop a feel for it. 2) Using a foot peddle requires you to weld at a bench sitting down or at least comfortable. For me its way easier to set the amperage and go but with aluminum the approach is a little more problematic. Newer AC welders also have settings that are hard to understand (at least for me) You can adjust the frequency and also the percent of the time its in a positive or negative polarity. This effects what they call cleaning. Apparently 30% cleaning makes the polarity one direction for a percent of the AC cycle. If you make the setting too high the electrode gets dirty and if you don't have enough it makes a bad weld. I've actually made a few nice welds but I'm just not willing to stick with it and get good at it. I just don't need to do it often enough to worry about it.
@@WinkysWorkshop I bought some aluminium brazing rods a couple years ago, they work ok for some stuff. Thanks for your replies.
BUEN VIDEO DE DESMOSTRACION DE ESE VEVOR EN LA ULTIMA PARTE DEL VIDEO SI SE SOLDO MUY BIEN EL CHAFLAN A LAS PIEZAS ES SUPER IMPORTANTE
Thanks!
I think you might be getting some static feedback from the garage lights in your audio. I had the same problem with my home videos.
You maybe right. They did not create this problem a few month ago but maybe one of them is going bad. I thought it was the VFD on my Hardinge but it was off.
@@WinkysWorkshopit sounds a bit like a fluorescent driver. Or if you have LED lighting it could be a faulty LED driver. 🤔
@@lesmaybury793 Yeah... LED. I need to hook up a monitor to me mike and walk around the shop. The LEDs are 6 light to a circuit and easy to isolate.
For these tig devices with constand cooling its very importand you regurarly blow out the dust and put the device not to close to the working spot. I fabrikate regularly and do a lot of metal sanding. Metal dust that gets sucked in by the ventilator will short circuit and fry the print plates. Best is to remove the outer casing of the device a few times a year.....just blowing some compressed air at the ventilation openings does not do a good job.
I'd say that is very good advice. Thanks
Watched a recent video on tig welding and the guy said 1 amp per .001 material thickness is a good starting point
That sounds about right, thanks
That was a great review Winky. The machine is obviously limited to light duty welding but that is what most hobbyists do. I weld most metals together with flux core MIG. I have a tig welder but no reason to weld anything and no gas. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
I think TIG and MIG weld about the same thickness. I like TIG for the amount of control. If I was welding a lot MIG would be much faster.
Theoretically, Mark, a wall plug should convert in the welder to 12V @ 150 Amps ish...
I'm not sure that is reality but 130 amp tripped the 20 amp breaker.
@@WinkysWorkshop I did say Theoretically... I know power standards vary from state to state, but up here 120V @ 15 A is a standard U-ground Receptacle. So through a "perfect" conversion circuit, 12V @ 150 A is what is expected. Regardless of whether you are 100-120V @ 20 amps, that welder seems to be eating a lot of power...
@@trollforge From what I am reading most 120v welders will go to 90 amp and if they are inverter 110 amp. I never tried to see what mine would go to but it tripped the breaker at 130 amp
@@WinkysWorkshop you are probably right Mark, I haven't done any research on the matter, since I was trying to decide whether to keep the 2nd MIG welder, or which one to get rid of... and I have forgotten most of that...
@@trollforge the 110v ability's is handy
I recently did a review on this welder on my channel but it had the pulse mode. I had a couple of grips with it. It does not come as a complete kit. It is missing a gas regulator and no stick welding stinger. Also yeah the ID of the gas hose is odd ball and I also had trouble with it leaking at the gauge. I had to double hose clamp it. Otherwise it welded just fine.
Yep. I have pulse on my other welder and its useless in my opinion, this one was $10 cheaper. I replaced the hose.... the lack regulator and stick holder was expected. Have you ever figured out the clean mode?
I like the pulse mode because it helps to control the heat better I think since there is no option for a foot pedal to be able to do that.. The clean mode requires you to buy some special gun Vevor sells. You use it to go over your welds with it and it cleans them as I understand it.@@WinkysWorkshop
Your review convinced me 100% that this welder is definitely a piece of crap!
Haha... I love this little welder but why do you say this?
Seriously, I'm not a professional welder. I'd like to know why you think. Penetration perhaps? The only negatives I saw was a lack of instructions and a wimpy ground clamp. I think the amount of penetrations is never going to be as much as a stick welder and I've found that there are limitation with amperage on a TIG. Over heating will lead to boiling metal and porosity. But perhaps I'm wrong... I'm not defending the welder just my observations. Maybe you are right. Please enlighten me.
You still have a buzzing in your audio.
yep... not super bad but it's there... also, it's not my VFD. Maybe my lights...
You just sold a welder
Let me know how you like it.
Like the channel but can't stand all the creators doing vevor shilling like this. Might be time to unsubscribe.
Reviews do two things, it enables me to afford items for the shop for more videos and also makes people aware of products that are available. I don't intend on making my channel all reviews. I'd hate to lose you as a subscriber but do what you gotta do. Also, in this case I didn't need the welder. This was strictly for the viewers. I gained a welder I don't need. As it turns out, it seems to be a very good welder for the money.
@@WinkysWorkshop All good sir, nothing personal, just Vevor fatigue at this point. Glad they support you, not judging your decisions, just dislike the brand and their way of buying reviews by hawking free stuff to creators. Takes away credibility and makes the discerning viewer wonder if the products would review as well if content creators had to pay sticker price for them.
@@desertdweller9548I do understand, no offence taken. I do reviews with the understanding that it will be 100% honest. I told Vevor that if the review is mostly bad that I will give them the option on stop the review. So far I think I have reviewed maybe 6 products over a 3 year period. One time I told them my review had a lot of negative and the said, publish the video anyway and about a month ago I refused to do a review on a mill vice. It was terrible. My next video will be a review of an ultrasonic cleaner and after that Im back to project videos.
@@WinkysWorkshop I actually wish more of the bad reviews were published. Otherwise the availability heuristic gives people the idea that none of their products are turds. Appreciate the honesty though.
@@desertdweller9548 This is true, don't get the 6" mill vise. ha