Don't Buy a Mercedes Sprinter Van until you watch an honest perfectionist review Sprinter
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
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OK...we have driven 4500 miles over 8-10 days and I have some feedback I'd love to share with you. This doesn't go into too much detail about drivetrain or specs. Only the things that I love...and the few things that I would do differently and just outright dont care for on my 2016 Mercedes Sprinter 144" Passenger Van. Hope you enjoy...not my usual VLog for sure!
"I don't know what the heck this does" 3:48
You should know, you definitely should, especially because you live in a humid area.
Been driving Sprinters for years now, both private and business, never had any real issues.
PLEASE do another video like this after 100K miles. :) Can't wait to see what you honestly say then.
I surely will...how bout one at 50k and one at 100k...what are your predictions?
My prediction, based merely on feedback from Sprinter owners, is that your list of "Cons" is going to grow. Hopefully, it won't happen and Mercedes has improved on the van. Fingers crossed for ya!
If, only if, properly maintened by trained professionals, wou will see this car in superb condition. The neglect, the untrained, so called car mechanics, cheap parts...will ruin every car fast.Therefore MB is not blame. I see those cars with miages up to 100k every day in myhome town(germany).
@@over9000ize It's not that simple, MB can't just hide behind "maintenance". Some cars are just unreliable. You can't claim that a car is reliable even when the maintenance has too happen too often, and the parts that break down are so many that in the span of 10 to 15 years you will probably have paid for so many replacement parts that you can build a whole new car with that amount of parts.
I really wish Toyota would build large vans. The buses that Toyota makes seem to be produced in Japan/Asia only.
My guess is he will get rid of this van by 75K miles. Those negative reviews are big deals. I’d be wishing I got a different van
The conclusion is that the van was built for Europe. We have a lot more speed restrictions than the USA. We have smaller cups of coffee and most of Europe does not have your heat.
Thank you for your comments and is helpful
Josh, thanks for taking the time and effort to give your review, likes/dislikes, about the Sprinter. We enjoy our 2016 170 WB ext high top very much! We do not drive as fast as you do and average 26-30 mpg. Another observation was our cargo van does not have a fuel fill cap like yours nor the dash. Guessing passenger vs. cargo and the options that go with each. Never had the fuel leak issue due to the cap, maybe....? Keep on keepin on!!
Loved your review - had me chuckling a couple of times. We just purchased a 2006 MB Leisure Van conversion with the 5 cyl diesel and the fuel mileage was beyond anything we expected. Better than any motorhome out there. Yes, there are a couple of things in the vehicle that are kind of odd (same things you mentioned and our vehicle is 10 years older!) - odd door locks, the cruise control and blinker levers are to similar/close together, weird heater control switch - all little things. Already put on almost 5,000 kms (one month) and love the vehicle. It is easy to drive - I started off in the centre of Toronto - and had control of the vehicle throughout the city as I navigated my way out. I will say that my cup holders are better as they are deeper and at the bottom of the console out of the sun. :)
Happy motoring.
Thanks Wade
Love this Channel , I’ve had my Sprinter for two (2) months. It’s all because of this video. The Sprinter so much better than a SUV, my wife and kids loves it. Thanks
Still have it ?
I have a 2013 that I use for work and it has almost 130k miles on the odometer and two 2014 sprinter with over 60k each. I don't have the windshield noise issue but have gone through 2 of them. The cruise control was weird at first but it's awesome now. We also have transits and hands down the sprinters are built better. Most of the features are explained in the manual.
I do love my Sprinter...just a few things that I think could be improved..especially the fuel running down the side of the van constantly! Sucks
Stoney Ridge Farmer the gas cap is not just sprinter thing, the transits we have use that same system.
Try spinning the nozzle to the side as you pull it out. Like after you pour a glass of wine. You could also pull it out at a downward angle, lifting the end of the nozzle up as you pull it back...It's not rocket science, lol
Did you ever have any problems ? thinking about buying one to build campervan just wanting something reliable
they usually have two power outlets, one is within the drinks holder tray that you pull out, the other is usually very well hidden, and is below that drinks holder tray right at the bottom of that same panel just before the panel meets the floor of that vehicle, you wont usually be able to see it unless you get out of the vehicle and take a closer look.
awesome review. thanks for sharing!
I have a 2017 metris van and I have pretty much the same complaints about the cruise control stalk, the solitary single usb outlet and the awful cupholders.
Recirculation controls don't ever make it "blow harder". It may sound louder in some vehicles when the recirc is on. But the fan does not spin any faster. Recirc only closes a flap that stops air from the outside from coming in. That way it is only "recirculating" the inside air.
Totally busted my interest in this van. Thanks for the info!
Hi from Germany! I had 3 Sprintervans Longwheelbase, each one of them had no Problems at all! i am just going 100mph across Germany hunting small Cars all the Time ;-). The 164hp engine is a exellent Motor: 27mls to the gallon when you only go 80mph.
when you read the ownwers Manual you see that the top Lockbutton is for the front Doors, the down Button for the rear Doors.
the Fillercap is not German, never seen ! they are working Vans, yes really expensive but also Long Lasting! You really have to take care about the Paint, wax it at least 3 times a year, otherwise the rost is very fast! Nobody cares here about Cupholders, we drink out of Bottels and they fit in the Doorpockets. My hardest Ride was from Hamburg to Augsburg in Bavaria wich is 760km distance, I did it in exactly 5 hours drivingtime! Maybe there is a Quality difference between Vans build IN Germany, and Vans build in other Countrys, could be. Sorry for my bad Englisch ....... ;-)
Hallo
Ich hab mir gedacht,über Mercedes sprinter oder Iveco
Bitte konnten sie vieleicht mir helfen sollte ich sprinter Oder Iveco kaufen
Hi Yanni, Iveco ist ok, aber noch schmaler als Sprinter und schlechter Komfort. Ich hatte einen Sprinter mit 6meter und 110 PS der war mit 12,5 Liter auf 100 Kilometer eher schlecht. dann hatte ich zwei 7 Meter Sprinter mit 164 PS die brauchten nur 8-10 Liter auf 100 Kilometer je nach Fahrweise. und der lange Radstand Fährt viel komfortabler. Mit jedem bin ich 120000 Kilometer ohne Probleme gefahren, und ich bin wirklich sehr sehr schnell gefahren! Ich Liebe den Sprinter ! Er fährt wie ein Auto nicht wie ein Iveco ;-)
Er ist Leider nicht billig so wie Iveco aber COOL!!! Wenn du Information willst frage mich einfach!
YOURE WELCOME !!!
Ich bedanke mich sehr
Ich schreibe dir aus Australia,aus diesem grund frage ich,Weil hier ein bisschen teure sind.
Viellicht kaufe ich mir nexte woche einen sprinter aber nagel neu
Der sprinter 316 cdi
Ich wird dir informieren
Danke dir aus Australia
Sehr Cool ! Es gibt ihn auch mit Differential Lock , für die Rear Axle. 2018 kommt der neue Sprinter auf den Markt ! somit kannst Du das alte Modell Billiger Bekommen, call all Dealers for an Offer !
My Dream is a 4x4 longweel base Camper, Custom made Suspension Liftkit , 3 Locks and real massive Tires
like 33x12.5 or so. One Day I will get one...... Greetings from Bavaria !
I wish, I can get one too,but to expensive here in Australia. Mate everything here’s overpriced. Well be any different in look for the 2018? What do u think?
Anyway this is my email address
noor80@me.com
We keep in touch
Cheers
Some of those negatives would drive me crazy....I thought German designers/engineers were supposed to be braniacs.....but those shortfalls are deal breakers. Really good recap of good and bad. Cheers
Enjoyed watching this video. You talked about things that you don't usually think about when looking to buy. Thanks for being so honest! 🙂 feeling a lot more prepared for when I start looking around for a van in the near future.
So right that you are saying . I have bin thinking about many of this things after driving sprinter for many years. Good work ;)
Thanks...glad someone else agrees these little things are annoying...not deal breakers just annoyances that I'd wanna know about before I buy
Put pipe insulation on the bar, there is a type for 1/2” copper that has sticky tape. Comes in 4’ lengths
yep....not really the "fix" I'd like to see on the truck....my buddy took pipe insulation and covered every corner on every piece of furniture in his house for his child....now is that really teaching the kid to mind the corners on things? They can hurt ya.....lol totally off subject
Things I like in the MB sprinters is that the side mirrors are huge and the lower mirror for dead corner can be adjusted for every driver needs. Most of the vans have much smaller mirrors and the dead corner mirror cannot be adjusted at all. Also you can fit in the driver seat no matter how tall or short you are. My friend is approx. 160cm (sorry for the metric numbers, I live other side of the world) and I am 200cm tall and we both can get good driving position. Also tall ppls can get their legs pretty straight between the pedals on long high way trips (the automatic transmission with only two pedals). I also like the cruise control stick that you didn't like, its crisp and very easy to use when you get use to it. In my opinion much better than buttons in the steering wheel on some of the ford transits I have drive for example. Something you forgot to say is that the top air vents on the dashboard are always blowing cold air no matter what you choose from the temperature wheel. The one button you didn't know whats its made for, was side mirror/windshield heating switch in case you have either one in your vehicle. The radio buttons you didn't know what to do with them are excellent for saving 10 different radio channels or entering the frequency in case you know what you want to listen, other than that they are pretty much useless. As far as I know the SD card reader is mainly for integrated navigator in case you might have one (to update maps), that's probably why it doesn't work with music very well. Next time when you are looking for a place to put cellphone in try the slope in front of your gauges, its like made for that :P And lastly the fuel tank cap or what ever that weird yellow thing is supposed to be, is something that I have never seen before and I am almost 100% sure that is not genuine MB part right there. At least in Europe there is no such stupid things at all, there is normal cap on it and a hole that fit the fuel pistols of all sizes and they don't leak and drip all over the place when you refuel.
never be sorry for using metric system, is the best! ;-)
It is indeed much easier to understand and convert to up and down in metric units but since I saw the guy in the video is from states, 160cm or 200cm probably say nothing to him since he is used to use imperial system.
200 cm. = 2meters
1 meter = 39.37", so
2 meters = about 79" = about 6'7"
Finally someone who undestands what Euro vans are all about. The Sprinter is absolutely the best on the market, we run 10 in our fleet, service them by an agent when required and use only genuine parts. For comfort over long distance, economy and lack of rattles we couldn’t ask for anything better and we have tried a few different makes.
I do try to watch all your videos and enjoy all of them and have learned a thing or two, keep them coming.
You nailed a bunch of my complaints too. I have a 2016. But it's best van I've ever owned. A joy to drive and great diesel mileage.
I drive a high top extended Mercedes Sprinter for work & agree 100% with everything you’ve said!! 😂
Thanks Gina!
Done watching and I'm going to buy one.
Josh, love the videos. Very informative.
Can you kill the “air quotes” ✌🏼? Ha ha ha
Keep up the good work Brother! Wooooo!
I drive those for 8 years.
But this is best review so far.
Add this front compartment place.
Great impression buddy.
Nice review. Very American. Watched it with pleasure. I work with a Sprinter and did 500.000 km without any problem with it. I see US models are slightly different from EU models. That yellow thing at the fuel inlet...we don't have that. Thanks for the review, I liked it!
u should get the 2019 model ....they seemed to have heard 80% of your gripes lol!!
Josh, you're a good ole boy my friend, good peeps as they say, happy to subscribe and see your journey on that 200 acres, God bless you my friend
On the cupholder inside the drawer note: you can adjust the radius of the hole to adapt to the cup.
Put a peace of pool noodle on that bar for the little lady
Just go to junkyard and by a couple of captain Seats out of customized minivan. Solves problem and is way more comfortable. I know, I used to drive mine 11+ hours at a time.
Or a piece.
They all look the same! Just say “I wanted the pretty emblem”
they don't lol. Im assuming you think all cars look the same.
I have a 2015 for my company, it has 67,000 miles nice van, with no troubles
Dude, Thanks for all the good information ...happy trails.
Yes sir you are very welcome
Best review yet on the sprinter 4x4. Im about to trade in my 15 aev ram ctd g56 for one. With my 4th child on the way, trucks arent an option anymore.
Looks like most of the gripes are based on the fact that it was designed for the european consumer, but most of the issues are solveable with a little ingenuity. Thanks!!
Yep ur welcome Roy
NOT a review of the 4x4 version
Great review and thank you for sharing all your dislike. I think the best approach to purchasing a vehicle is to reach an agreement with the dealer to test drive it for five days. It gives you enough time to learn of these repugnance before committing long term.
Some things you just have to learn over time I guess...still a great van and we enjoyed it for 30k miles
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I was thinking seriously about buying one of these vans, but as I was watching your great reviews I need to do my homework. This is early 2022 and I’m hoping Mercedes Benz has fixed those bugs that you mentioned. I will get the four-wheel drive. Thank you for this.👍
Thank you for your honesty. I go between the v6 4x4 and a Rubicon. So far the Rubicon pulling a CampLite trailer that I already have.
Love Moab! Drove my old Ford E150 from Mobile, Al all around the US several times (257k miles now)....keep thinking about the Sprinter
I love my sprinter..dont get me wrong...but these were a few things I experienced after driving cross country....we adapted to the issues....and I feel like folks should know...everyone keeps telling ya how awesome they are...but there are issues with every vehicle...annoyances more than anything....I'll do another review I'm sure
Here in Europe the Mercedes Sprinter is very popular when bought NEW.
But after a few years they RUST and as most Sprinter vans are white it is very noticeable.
Other brands of van - Fiat Ducato, Renault Master, etc do not rust [Galvanised]
That's not still an issue these days is it? I though it was just the older vans?
So what mechanic is much better if you have Mercedes ok fiat doesn't rust so it is better??
CG Muso they still rust
Does water collect in the rocker panels and cause rust?
Hi Josh, I buy the ex ambulance here in Sydney Australia. They are usually three years old, MWB, 316 CDI’s with around 100,000 ks on the clock. When commissioned they have the Ambo pack, extra air bags, larger alternator etc. I then fit them out as a camper van. To overcome the sore neck on longer trip as I am 5’10” high I have designed a fibreglass roof pod This fits in perfectly with the interior furniture. This way you do not need to buy the high top Sprinter. Additionally it add to the stealthiness as the vehicle is completely self contained. I find the Sprinter (bytheway, these are German made) especially the MWB, a delight to drive they are easy to park and fitted out are the best value. Instead of overpriced oversized vehicles with all the comforts of home, having a smaller vehicle which allows more freedom is the way to go. Not only do I build them I use them and my wife and myself are off on a two and a half month trip, end of Fed. Travelling to Tumut NSW then to Victoria to the Silo way (look it up) and across to explore Tasmania for a month. I enjoy your utube posts keep up the good work
Thanks Grant!
Grant Batkin I’d love to see some pictures of your camper conversions- particularly the roof pod & interiors! Do you have a website, or a link to check them out? Also interested in what set up you use for fresh/waste water, heating & electrical system... A month exploring Tasmania sounds fantastic! Safe travels...
Hey Grant, where do you find vans to buy? I’ve been on the lookout for a van and it’s surprisingly really difficult. I want to fit it out how I want, and your post sounds like it could have some really great tips... any chance you could share some info?
I’ve been wading through so many sites, there’s just so much stuff and haven’t got very far 🙏🏻
Love mercedes, and loved your review. You could say I m die hard mercedes fan but the problems you pointed out was reasonable.
Thanks
I just came from a 1700 mile trip from Riverside , Southern California to Twin Falls, Idaho via Nevada. Cruised mostly at 72 mph. Being very careful not to follow closely behind other vehicles ( passed them at 82 mph easily with the 3 liter V6). Zero cracks on the windshield and no nicks on the paint ( hood protector made of painters masking tape). My 2017 Sprinter Crew Van is fantastic, I purchased it brand new for $44K
And came with Nav. 10OK 60 month warranty. And thank you for the tips on the windshield.
Cessna 152 Airman ((
You keep saying you love the van but all your complaints are for things you need to use everyday. It would drive me crazy!
Yea...I really do like the van..the utility of it..now the creature comforts are lacking but something I can fix up myself...stick around on the Vlog..and I'll show you the new console I am building..sometimes you gotta make your van what you want it to be!
yeah, didnt hear allot of positives. This van was mainly built for the northern European market me thinks. I live in the UK and i wouldn't touch a sprinter with a barge pole! just so overate because of their badge. The older sprinters are rust buckets! also can be expensive to fix. Also not that good fuel economy compared to other diesels on the market , in EU at least. well over priced in my mind.
Get the upper windshield tinted then already.
american van are better they have common sense, everything that comes from Europe is small and mostly sucks
I completely agree. The entire German auto industry is suffering from quality problems. I bought a Ford Transit Connect that seems perfect and purposed design and has no issues even close to this vehicle. Also I know someone that bought one of these and a mechanical failure almost killed her after flipping over.
After I got a load of the price for a Mercedes Sprinter I went and bought a 2005 Chevy Astro AWD from the WA State auction for $2,000. I took out the seats, got a cot and set it up as a camper. I don't have a heart attack over rock chips on dirt roads and pasture driving. I get 18mpg and have put 6600 miles on it with -0- problems. I love it. Just my .02
I love the Astro van platform..great little vans and that 4.3 is a great little engine and bulletproof
I love those Astros. Great little rigs.
I agree, I drive a Mercedes E350 tourer, the only thing I hate is the cruise control arm (it should be on the wheel)!
Keep it out of overdrive or in a lower gear on on those mountains! Saves your trans and less strain on your motor because you have more power in a lower gear
8:48 "We're not a pack of idiots here." Overall this was an informative video. However, this is a fine example of the need to question your source of information and do your own research. "Maybe we should read the manual?" Yes, indeed.
-There was definitely a manufacturers defect with the way that your windshield and the seal were installed.
-I agree about the fuel fill problem, what a mess.
-I agree that the choice of cup holders and their placement is terrible.
-I agree that there is a shortage of charging ports/receptacles.
-The two lock buttons are for different purposes, as someone else here has pointed out.
-If you don't want that vent blowing upward, you can close it and obviously more air will flow out of the other vents.
-With the hvac on recirc mode, it recirculates the air from inside instead of drawing in fresh air from outside, it's not meant to blow harder.
-Of course a 4WD is going to be better off road. Yes, a 2WD is definitely meant for road use.
If this gentlemen would have glanced at the owners manual for the things that he was having problems with, most of these problems would have been solved.
I lift the fuel hose up after the pump stops, this drains the fuel still in the hose into your tank, then when you pull the hose out, there's no fuel left in the hose to drip out.
Yep....tried it my friend....still dribbles all over...diesel is just nasty stuff!
What is really funny with the Mercedes Cruise Control setup is when you hit the lever up, which in many models engages a governor. The one in mine defaults to 25kph unless I reset it. BTW, you might check the settings to see if this is why you are limited to 85mph.
Thanks for shereing. Im looking at a 4x4 2014 v6 and a newer modell 4x4 with 2.1 i norway they are very exspensiv. So i ned to get a older one and hope it will be good
Very thorough/ Mercedes should be watching/ great review !
You can get the governor removed. And also get it chipped or ecu remapped for more power up hills .
Or buy a Fiat Doblo maxi 1.6 multijet.😁
Ed De Graaf those are ugly af 🤮
@@AnitaMaxWynnn Geweldige functionele auto in combinatie met Kip caravan 37 EK. Elk jaar een trip door Europa met fietsen en scooter mee. Good Luck and Have Fun🇱🇺
Thanks for giving us your honest opinion. Was fun to watch too. Cheers!!!
Yes sir anytime
Thanks I enjoyed the van review
Pull up on the slack in the hose about 2-3 feet behind the nozzle and allow the remaining fuel to drip in the the tank before removing nozzle. Your welcome
Man I've tried everything...it's the ridiculous fuel cap (which I am told is aftermarket)
before you pull out flip the fuel nozel upside-down shake it and rotate down to normal position, usually does the trick.
Thanks for the tip
KFStreich -- Wait, are we still talking about vans, lol?
We test drove Sprinter and found mostly same complaints as you. Also wanted a more 'dual purpose' true all-around every day driver. Plus I like to go over 85 when needed. We are super happy with our Mercedes Metris Cargo conversion
I’ve had this for about two years and the v6 for two years before that and the v6 has EGR valve issues. The 4-cylinder is great and I like it much better.
That's what I hear
I thought the Generation 1 is a 5-cylinder. Is there a 4-cylinder I don’t know about?
Well I only paid $17K for my 6C dodge and it gets 25MPG. I have none of those complaints. I think you pride is keeping you from admitting to a huge mistake. I hope it is a tax write off.
Cool...sounds like a great deal...still driving the van every day...still love it...now that's not to say that years down the road I might go a different route ....we shall see
used to have a dodge sprinter , great van almost 300,000 miles till the rust killed the body , all the dodge dealers could work on it , I bought a new ford van because you cant get the Mercedes worked on hardly anywhere , not sure why anyone would buy one of these if the closest dealers 160 miles away. one thing I don't miss is the stinky diesel smell every time I fill up , their is ford and chevy dealers in almost every town easy to get worked on everywhere. not so much with the Mercedes....
Most Dodge dealers will still work on the Sprinters and they still stock the parts.
8 zillion companies, even the USPS, use these vans so somewhere there's people who repair them and you cannot beat the range on a long trip
Thank you! Got my financing all done today and picking up my new 2017 Cargo model w/high roof for my HVAC business work truck tomorrow. Good insight!
You're gonna love it...they arent without their little quirks...here's a tip...if you dont like the doors auto locking just hold down the lock/unlock button and this changes the program! That saved me alot of grief....mine didn't come with an owners manual
You are totally right about the location for the cruise control. It should be on the steering wheel, just like it is in my 1997 Ford e350 club wagon(that I bought for a whopping $1700 4 years ago.
Idk but I think you need to hit the defrost button and turn it off...
Your girlfriend stood in the middle of the road probably thinking to herself “ f#*k my life” what the hell am I doing with a man who likes to talk to himself for hours. 🤣
loman4659 Sadly girl i liked
Well observed! She looked pretty bored waiting for this guy to finish his blabber.
I feel the same way about the air conditioning system and the fuel guage in my 2015 sprinter 3500 3.0 diesel Coachmen prism 2150le motorhome. The fuel tank is very small, mine is 26.4 gallons and we have to stop every 200 miles, I carry a full 5 gallon diesel can with me, we ran out of diesel once in Utah...Not fun, luckily for us we were flat towing a jeep behind us, we disconnected it and went and found some diesel..
My boss has a 2005 Dodge Sprinter and the fuel pour is in the same place. Same problem as yours with most of the stuff. When I pull in his drive I have to move slug slow or it will literally teeter back and forth because of the long wheel base. He has a 5 cylinder Diesel. Also the roof AC sucks lots of power from motor. And his has traction control and it still spins. Never take it on the Ice. I almost lost it bad and bit it in a big ditch.
The fuel level is a calculated value by the computer so that is why it is not very accurate. You can get an option code added so that the reading is taken from the float in the tank rather than calculated.
Thanks for the tip
Ours has a habit of locking itself when keys either in ignition or not. Have to exit vehicle with keys in hand or get locked out. Sprinter 316. Also it blows turbo hoses a lot and keeps going into limp mode.
Anonymous Interuptus locked me out while I was in the desert. It was idling for 2hrs before someone came to open it. Good thing we had another vehicle
We have the high top long version dually wheels Mercedes-Benz Sprinter in r limousine Fleet. I drive this vehicle everyday and I love it. Not one thing to complain about. Great visibility on the windshield the power is unbelievable for a van of that size. When I decide I want to go it gets up and goes with absolutely no problem. Keep in mind sometimes I'm fully loaded with 10 to 12 people Plus just as many suitcases in the cargo area and the van performs very well. I'm a 19 year chauffeur driver and we've had our particular Sprinter now for the past 4 years. I would have gotten this dually it has good stability on the road.
So glad I saw this! Amazing Mercedes no longer has innovative, quality design. I can add that (being a Moab resident) he was NOT on an "off-road road!" That 's funny he thought that; he was on what most would call a normal gravel road, minus the gravel...now if he had continued down that particular road - the lack of drivability would've been top of the list of things he didn't like, plus how expensive and irritating it was to have jeeps, or tow trucks pull him out of the sand!
This was an awesome, very informative review! I plan to buy a van for full-timing someday and the details you pointed out would drive me crazy. Thanks!
All and all we are happy with the van...but there are surely room for improvements
Super duper useful review and great presentation and editing.
Thanks DIma! Glad you found it helpful!
The numbers are for dialing a phone number.
Also i was told the sd card slot is for adding navigation by mercedes dealer, as I have the 170" 16' version for work and it has a navi button.
As far as the lock buttons they can be disabled from locking the rear doors everytime you get out.
Thanks for your honesty...considered the Sprinter but went with a Chevy Duramax 4x4 Sportsmobile...A major condo on wheels..no diesel additive necessary...did 10K miles last drive...Seattle to Key West, Austin tx. to Sedona Ariz. Love our ride...anyway...Keep a handful of disposable plastic gloves( like at a sandwich shop) in my door and never get diesel on the hands...enjoy your journey....can't wait to start our next one...
Would you get a 2019 with a V6 diesel ?
I would recommend 2012-2016 4cyl 2.1l these engines are extremely reliable. Literally mercedes unicorn
how much is the dealer maintenance??
@@pavelkolp why is the 2016 engine better than the 2017 > onwards ?
I'm a trucker and have been for almost twenty years. we wear gloves when we fuel, and when you're done, holding a rag near the fuel spout to catch the drips
Yep...might have to start doing that very thing
hairy plopper I’m diesel mechanic I never wear gloves when my hands greasy I clean them buy diesel and then buy tide over than forty years and I still have my hands
You really really really love it, “BUT” at 8.07 anytime anyone says “BUT” it usually means this is what I really mean!
You matched the pitch of the flapping weatherstripping noise with your voice perfectly, and my first thought was - yep, this guys gotta play music. In fact, thats probably his (sweet) guitar playing edited into the video.
Not sure how many miles you have, I just went over 20K with a 2014 (purchase new in 2015). I bought used, had 10k miles on it. Mine has 6cyl. We’ve taken 4 long trips, and been in dealer 4 times with check engine lights (CEL). First was a speed sensor, no big deal right? Wrong, the speed sensor controls transmission, the speed sensors are located in rear wheel brake housing, and when they go bad, or in my case get clogged with brake dust, it doesn’t send signal, which puts you in...wait for it... limp mode...oh glorious limp mode. The wife really loves limp mode, won’t come out of first gear, it’s protecting the transmission. Second CEL was any easy one, the wiring was faulty on the fuel pressure sensor, it was drivable, but annoying to head to the dealership again. The third and fourth were the best, on long trip, CEL comes on, my wife looks at me with death stair...are you f@&@$# kidding me?! Another check engine light, head to the dealership, oh Mr. Jones, seams your vans NOX sensors are bad, we don’t have any in stock, we’ll give you a loner while you wait four days. My wife was sooo happy, man, wish I had a picture of her look. So we get that fixed. Now we are headed of on a 3k mile trip up to Bar Harbor, my wife jokingly says, if we get another CEL we’re put the thing on Craig’s list. Three days into our adventure, we are 100 miles from Erie Pa, what is that I see...can I cover it up with a piece of gum I think to myself...no...might as well tell her. Sweetie pie, guess what? We have another CEL. Won’t go into our conversation. Stopped at camp ground, had to drive 90 miles in the wrong direction to the closest MB dealership that worked on sprinters. And guess what, our Nox sensors were bad once again. Yippee, another set of Nox senors. Well this time they were in stock. To cut to the point, Mercedes sprinters run great, fast, quiet, smooth ride Handel very well. And the engine runs awesome. But the emissions system is terrible. I’ve read more about how the Def system works, along with the DPF and Nox sensor blah blah bla. Bottom line, at least for me, I don’t trust my van, there are many preventative things to do, to take care of the emissions system, using the MB spec oil, using fuel additive to clean the fuel, so on and so forth. But now, the next trip ( yes we kept the van) I am going to pre plan and know where the MB dealership are on my route. I wrote all of this so someone out there that never heard that Mercedes has a problem with the diesel emissions system will hear it from me. No one said anything anywhere when we were researching. And it’s true, they run great, they drive great, great fuel economy. But when someone ask “what model is that?” we jokingly say, it’s a sprinter 3500CEL. I hope this helps someone. Take care, and I hope you never get a check engine light.
Ah...so what ur saying is sell it!
just bought a new 2017 and the light came on at 1500 miles........Im kind of shitting my pants reading all the stories I never saw until I signed my life away on one. Gulp.
I have a Sprinter and the "Check engine light" issue... well.... as much of a serious problem it is in the US (since states will not let you pass inspection if it's on!) is meant as an advisory by MB, not meant to fail you on inspection. But, I do agree, those endless sensor issues and therefore CELs are a massive problem when owning in the US.
The emissions part.... also not a problem from MB (if my info is correct) .... the US changed it's emissions laws and implemented them way too fast for major manufacturers to respond with a good system... so they installed instant solutions so as not to lose markets... those solutions are crap... and most just circumvent the law (DPF just accumulates the dust that isn't allowed in the emissions test and then intermittently burns it all off... when not being checked... so... same amount of dust/soot comes out - just manages to pass inspection in US!!!) Sadly this implementation is not as good by MB as by some others... they seem to have decided to make the system try and "sense" when to burn off the DPF... instead of just having a "clockwork" system of, say, every 5k miles or something.
MB does tend to overengineer things (many German things are)... and the result is too many expensive trips to dealers or repairshops.
I'm thankfully so short into the ownership of my van, that I am still liking it tho :-P
Also... I bought mine used with just 122k miles on it for $15k ... I had tried to build a 4x4 version of a new one... just to see the price, and with a V6 turbodiesel tall roof, it came out at $45k ... so no idea how yours ended up being $50k
I do think the 4x4 version is overpriced in the US... as it's so much more than the standard RWD .... but the market in the US is craving the 4x4 option... since there was a 4 month waiting on getting one when I checked in August. Such demand means they can overcharge even more than usual :-/
Bergur Sigurdarson -- But... Aren't these vans considered light trucks and therefore exempt from US emissions regs?
Wheel speed sensors are covered under the EMISSION warranty, 5 yr, 100K mi (7 yr in some states). Don't let the dealer cheat you, they will try to charge you for them.
I almost bought one of these and I am glad now that I went with the one that looks like shoe.
lol Love it!
If the shoe fits...
I'm looking at the shoe too - yeah, it ain't the prettiest, but as the saying goes, beauty is only skin deep. I'm interested in living in it full time, so utility/space is paramount. It's got 110! 5 yr/100k warranty! Huge lockable center console! Superior cup holders! 😉
I'm sure the Nissans have their issues but for $50k, I think you can get the V8 loaded. Unfortunately, 4wd is not a factory option, yet.
I just bought a shoe! I love it! The overhead console is huge! The cup holders are great and PLENTY of storage for gadgets and stuff. Ours was converted to 4x4 by Advance 4x4 in Utah. It isn't the prettiest but they nailed it on functionality. Just wish I got that gas mileage. LOL!
the nissan is an ugly ass van and gas guzzler
Al Bundy's Shoetruck is Italian Quality " FIAT" *F*ail*I*nn*A*ll*T*ime Muahaha!
when you say "dodge version" you mean the ProMaster and not the Dodge imported sprinters right? the dodge/freightliner import ones are the same exact van as the Mercedes ones save for logo/front grille swaps.
Thank you for your invoice for your help on some thoughts and thanks thanks a lot.
Glad to help....FYI we still have the van and it's been a year...if you decide to get one I have some maintenance vids out that are helpful
I wish 4wd version was available. You can get a 2016 Ford Transit passenger van for less than 25k. Also with the Ford you can get it serviced in any town in the US, cheaper to service and parts are available.
I service a fleet of Transits. They are the biggest POS's !!! Absolute junk!
There is a 4wd version...and the Mercedes is fairly simple to service ..look for that video coming soon
Transits are built in Kansas. It would make sense if they were built in China!
CFH 420
I work for a Marriott hotel, we Lisa van from Enterprise. We used to have an E350 15 passenger van. That was replaced this year by a Transit 350. You're absolutely right the transit is a piece of crap nothing but issues with it the rear air conditioning sucks. The Econoline was out-of-date design-wise but much more reliable.
John Harris there is a 4x4 version
Can anyone with a 2019 model comment on if these issues are still present?
My boss just bought me a 170" wheel base high top double side doors 3500 dually and its awesome. Lots of deep cup holders, cruise is on steering wheel, no loud noises over the windshield at 80+, all of his problems were solved in my opinion as he went through the list i would think my van doesn't have that problem lol the biggest thing i dont like so far is the window pillar located right in my line of sight on the drivers door mirror. It messes with my vision trying to not focus on the pillar and focus on looking what's beside me. Passengers side is perfect though. I have the basic radio in mine but i has bluetooth so works for me cuz i like pandora. Talking on the is clear but difficult to hear on highs. Probably because i dont have a bulkhead in yet. Just a few tips on my opinion of my 2019 Mercedes Sprinter 3500.
Love to see your video. Very honest and funny. Keep it up.
Not sure if the sd card slot is for updates or music or both but the card might have to be formatted to Fat or Fat32. My car stereo won't play cards formatted NTFS. Hope this helps. Also you have to push the media button to see the mp3's.
All this stuff, including the heating controls, is explained in the owner's manual.
I just dont like Mercedes cost to much to fix.Thanks for the post keep up the good work.
Thanks Bud
WE retire in 2019 Canada.
I LOVE the vans but I chose the Ram 1500 with thV-8 Hemi.
24.5 mpg but I know how to raise gas up to 29-31.8
We are putting a shell pop up camper and pull a 10x7 cargo telescoping trailer at 1,000 pounds and no change to MPG.
Cargo 4K will drop MPG 8 points to about 20-22 and back up when we detach and go exploring with just the pop up.
get a chevy express v6
bud morse you are correct I was on a road trip to Texas and one was broke down the left rear strut was broke where in the hell would you get that at I told him to call a racecar shop and put a coil over on it the only one of those that are breaks down you are SOL !
Where in the hell would you buy parts out in the middle of Arizona you be screwed the parts are higher than hell you better think hard before you buy one
The windshield and all other windows need ceramic window tint to reduce the heat.
best thing to get i promise.
you can put a bottle of water next to ceramic tint on the inside and it will be cold the next morning still but try that on the front windshield ant that water bottle will be warm at sunrise
watching your video as a MB service advisor from Europe. Most of the cons are fixed with the newest model :) These vehicles will last long if they are maintained well.
I drove a 2006 Dodge 3500 version as a wheelchair lift paratransit bus and loved it. Looks like it's gone down hill since then but still pretty sweet. I can't put a photo but on 8/5/'09 my analog fuel gauge was showing E, 4 miles later I pulled in to the bus barn with 7/10 gal., or about 10 miles left. Just like my 1988 420 SEL it had zero cup holders. I think the Germans thought is if you are driving you can't have beer, so why have a drink holder?
Now....you've got the good one..with inline 5cyl...the one that lasts....no DEF ...a good van!
I haven't read the other comments but I believe that symbol on your fan control that you said you didn't know what it was for, is your rear window defrost. I could be wrong of course, but that's what mine looks like on my Jeep. Thanks for the review and wish you nothing but good luck with your tobacco farm!
Thanks Tim...so yep there are 2 little buttons with similar symbols....one is for the "sticker melter" rear defrost and one is for the "defrost" when first warming the truck....quirky little van for sure
I think it was mirror heat, could be a combo of both
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Hated some things about ours. Had the '14 short wheel base high roof with a/c. High roof caused alot of sway on the highway especially with slight winds. The DEF light had this thing in the shop 2x every winter. We are a family of 8 so my 6ft tall son loved it and we all appreciated the room. A/C and heat were great, navi and video were awesome but inside it was still just a passenger van with the rubber floor and fabric seats. Great room up front for mom and dad with okay cup holders. Rear cup holders under the seat sucked and broke off when closing! Also, as we had the raised roof this Mama could never just pull through the drive-thru. Had to check my clearance religiously. Bumped a carport once and the roof leaked forevermore :-( Yes, the lock button mechanism was a big pain in the butt!
Keepers At Homestead check on youtube they show how to clean your egr easy!
Keepers At Homestead has
Hi, first I'm in th UK so some things may be a bit different. First, the lock switches. They lock or unlock the rear and side loading doors only on the panel van for load security. Driver passenger doors are unaffected. It's probably the same on all variants. If you look at the switch icon/ logo it will make sense to you.
All sprinters I've seen have two power outlets. One is switched via ignition and the second is permanently powered. The second one is not obvious as it is way below eyeline at the bottom of the radio/ aircon etc., panel. 25 Amp maximum load as I recall.
Your windscreen problem is, I think, an isolated problem which MB should fix under warranty.
Another commenter mentioned the fuel reserve and he/ she is correct. It does have a fairly large fuel reserve. When the fuel light comes on you are now on reserve fuel.
Can't really comment on the cruise stalk position because I've never had a problem with it. Maybe because I'm left handed? Just a thought.
I have a feeling that the wheel spin and lack of traction you mentioned is the ESP kicking in. If the van loses traction on one wheel it reduces traction to the other until stablised. Revs can vary from low to high depending on what the ESP determines is correct for the conditions. For example if you try a mega quick getaway on stony ground and one wheel loses grip, the road speed will drop even though revs are still high. It simply won't let you try to accelerate out of it. The ESP is now in charge.
Cup holders. Yep, in hot climates the dash mounted ones are wrongly placed. Here in the UK it's not too much of a problem. If it's really hot, I just have a 2 litre bottle of water in the door bottle holder.
Engine reliabiltiy has not been an issue for me. My 2007 2.1 litre long wheelbase panel van has 349,000 miles on the clock without an issue and still pulls like a train with a full (and probably over the top) load. Older models did have an issue with water pumps and lower ball joints.
I can think of several little gripes with the sprinter generally, but on the whole I consider it to be an excellent choice. Comfortable seating with great forward and side vision and drives like a car.
If something does go wrong then MB will ask you to leave all your cards and wallet with them. Way over the top pricing.
The MB worker should be sacked for his comments
Thanks for all the good vids I liked and subscribed
Good to have ya andrew!
So glad I watched this. I've been thinking about the Sprinter but you just talked me out of it.
Now...I wouldnt let this talk ya out of it...I still have the van...and I really love it...just a few annoyances that needed to be addressed...I was tired of seeing "fake reviews" on youtube....folks building campers and all that....these are the real issues that I experienced..but are in no way deal breakers
@Stoney Ridge Farmer Yes. Thank you. Most of those reviews are just rehashing the specs with video, driving, some confusing commentary (eg "The steering feels mushy" "Ride quality not that great"), and maybe a comparison ranking. But these kinds of owner reviews are the most informative. Thanks again.
I went online to find reviews to help me decide between a Ford or Mercedes sprinter. Came across this video. Now I don't even want a sprinter
Thanks for your honest review. That sort of review is helpful to newbies. I wish you good luck with your German/Chinese plastic van. I've had two Mercedes in the past and I stay far far away from them today.
I wanted to buy one, but after your review I have a change of heart. Thanks.
Well...dont let it discourage you....we still have ours...it's held it's value....I drive it everyday....but there are a few things you've gotta get used too....especially if you've been driving and American truck....the Merc just doesn't have all the bells and whistles...I love the van...but It's taken some getting used too...btw the windshield was my biggest complaint
I prefer Transits they are simple,cheap parts,Cheaper,well thought. I could name much more but I will save you the time. Lastly I am not trying to bash on your choice I agree Mercedes has the coolest looking van on the market but on the other side it has its flaws. Thanks for the honest review that goes a long way.
Wow, I really appreciate the honest review. Mostly minor issues, seems like a good van overall. I wish someone with a transit would do the same...
Josh, thanks for your video. Im planning on getting a similar van 2016 4 cylinder Sprinter. I was told that these vans emissions system was redone and do not have the same issues as the 2006-2014 models, however could not find any reliable sources online to verify this. Have you heard the same? Thanks.
I have heard nightmare scenarios on the olderr diesel emissions....issues start after 80k miles....if they changed it....mercedes needs to advertise this
Very good review. Those "little things" add up sometimes. Safe journeys! :)
You are very welcome