Push Feed Actions - The Real Gunsmith
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Randy describes the difference between control feed and push feed actions and talks about the advantages of a Sako push feed action.
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Thank you! The same to you and yours.
Randy what do you think of the Merkel. RX-Helix straight pull action.? Also the RS Blasser. Thanks for takeing time out too comment. I respect your work, greatly. You are the Real Gunsmith. God bless you and yours always.
I'm a old school Mauser action rifle guy , love the realizability of a Control Round Feed Action . Took my gunsmith course when I was 18 now 51 and I'm still Damm learning , thank you for sharing and giving your wisdom in your vids , no b.s. and straight to the point
Yes again. Another thing I like about the push feed action is if your magazine is empty you can drop a round in, close the bolt and the cartridge will push in and chamber. You don't have to push it down into the magazine well to get it to catch the extractor like you would with a Mauser style action. This was one of the reasons the Canadian Arctic Rangers chose the Tika T3X for their new service rifle. You might need to shuck a round in the chamber in a hurry if there is a big polar bear fixing to have you for lunch !
If you taught a class, I would be early everyday and stay until you made me leave. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
Haha I was just thinking the same thing lol Id pay stupid money just to watch over his shoulder while he built a rilfe...
“Try that with another rifle” “most people wont understand what im about to describe”
This guy has opinions and thinks theyre scripture. There is Absolutely ZERO things about a generic bolt action Sako that would make it impervious to ice build up than any other bolt action rifle. Its basic physics. Firearms are one of the simplest of all machines. This guys an old fixed minded that grew up when all the knowledge was in printed encyclopedias and corrections or advancements couldnt be widely shared. That generations older is not wiser
@@cliffisfree100 that is a very sophomoric point of view you have.
Reminds me of a good friend who mentored me into my hand loading adventure. Was a bench rest guy and his 40+ years of experience still are invaluable to me even though all I have anymore is memories and old texts and notes I scribbled on my first loading manual (gift from him). We all have to share our knowledge and experience with someone else so it keeps on going.
Love going over these old videos every now and then. Always seem to find something I missed. I love tikkas. Such a good bang for your buck. Just worked yup a load using 129 gr lrx for my 270 tikka wearing a grs stock. Gun shoots .5 moa at 3085fps.
So grateful for the knowledge on here from people like yourself and the few people I know in person that have been gracious enough to teach me and let me use their equipment.
Thank you sir, you are the real gunsmith. Greetings from South Africa.
The reach of the web! Thanks for watching from South Africa!
My best friend has hunted your country several times, with rifles I built for him.
I have both types of bolt actions, I prefer the controlled feed, and from a practical stand point, I do not think it is slow. Further my Winchester M70 has not failed me in Northern Canada, where I too have faced snow and ice and very cold temps. Part of that is how you care for your rifle and even more so, protecting your scope. In any case thank you for the video.
I've owned a number of Winchester M70's over the years in both Pre-'64 and push-feed designs; both types worked just fine. I think you hit the nail on the head when mentioning user-error as the issue and not action design. Great video and explanation!
Well said.
The Winchester model 70 is a controlled round feed Both Pre 64 and Post 64 models.
They do not make a Winchester Model 70 Push Feed as far as I know.
Or I am I misunderstanding what you said or what Randy said ?
@@H43339 The pre-64 was CRF, then, in 1964, Winchester dropped the CRF actions and went to a less expensive PF design to compete with the Remington 700's. After a few decades, Winchester reintroduced the CRF and has used it since the 90's on their M70 Classic models. All of the current FN-era M70 rifles have used the CRF actions.
If you look on GunBroker, there are M70's selling for $300 up to the thousands of dollars. If you look at the $300-500 M70's, you'll see they don't have the CRF actions with the Mauser extractors. One really good version of the PF M70's was called the Black Shadow, an entry level rifle. These had some of the smoothest actions around. Winchester used that name for a few rifles though, some were PF actions and some were CRF actions, somewhat confusing.
So, yes, the M70 has been made with both types of actions.
@H43339 For a long time after 1964, all Winchester Model 70s were push feed. Slowly the controlled round feed Model 70s are pretty much all they currently make. Either can be accurate.
@@H43339post 64 was a push feed design, the did bring back the controlled feed in the early nineties.
There isn't alot of fellas like Mr Selby around his knowledge is beyond incredible 👏 🙌
I have two Winchester Model 70s (300 Win Mag and 30-06) and one Ruger M77 (270 Win), all in CRF. I'm a control freak.
Thank you for the video and sharing your stories! Remington 700 hasn't changed since its inception. When it's right, why change anything❤
Glad you made this! I'm no dangerous game hunter, but I've never held onto the "controlled Rd Fd Demand", especially since I got an original Tikka LSA 65 in 30-06, made in 1975. But I've found it's Push Feed, the quickest, smoothest, SUREST, of any rifle I've ever handled, period! I have no doubt that the Sako's or Tikkas, and Original Tikkas would be my choice for Africa! They're amazing!
As a left handed shooter it is tough to find rifles that are left handed at most gun shops. I found a Tikka M-595 (left handed) in 270WSM at a Pawn Shop in Montrose Colorado. Rifle was lightly used and the price was right. Since owning this rifle it has been nothing but a joy to shoot and carry in the field. Barrel has been threaded and a muzzle brake has been installed to reduce recoil (my wife uses it when she hunts). Also added 1lbs of silicone to the hollow butt-stock to reduce recoil.
Most importantly, the rifle operates flawlessly with all different types of ammo and consistently shoots between 1/2” & 1” groups every time its fired.
I have a few other left handed rifles by well credited gun manufacturers that cost significantly more than what I paid for the Tikka that don’t operate or function nearly as well regardless of the environmental factors (snow, ice,rain,etc).
Thanks for another well informed video Mr. Randy, keep the videos coming!
I've run an Ruger GSR scout in those icy freezing conditions you've mentioned and it's always worked perfectly.
It's interesting that the Canadian Rangers ran the old SMLE 303 for their patrol rifle in Canada's north up till lately, and then they switched to the Tikka. Their special search and rescue units use Ruger MKII custom rifles in 30-06.
The Danish Sirius patrol which recons and enforces Greenland has perhaps the toughest conditions on patrol anywhere and they use old US M1917 30-06 rifles.
Norweigns on Svalsbard island use Mausers convert to 30-06 for polar bear safety.
Of course the old Mosin has been employed by the Russians forever in cold weather and tough places and many folks living in the Taiga and Arctic depend on that old clunker but it still chugs along. I don't like the Mosin much, but it fills a role for many peoples.
I like the Mauser designed rifles a lot but since I'm left handed it's difficult to find rifle actions based on that design. Ruger GSR or the Hawkeye 77 are the most readily available and they been fine so far for me. Come to think of it my Ruger has a metal detach mag that is designed like that of the Sake 995 where all the cartridges are centerline.
And Polar Institute on Svalbard bought 50+ Ruger m77 stainless .308s for the same use also. The Sirus guys can also use private rifles with them on the Greenland tours, if it is chambered in ,30-06, they have free ammo.
Tell it like it is Randy. Love your work! I finally got rid off all my junk guns most of them rendered useless and thrown in the trash can. My kitchen counter gun smiting days are over. Taking all your advice on hand loading. Much love love from Michigan and the the small ranch I hunt near Lusk Wyoming.
The gun smith that accurized my model 70 Laredo .300 win mag told me he loved my gun with the “claw extraction” control round feed. He has since passed away. He explained to me when he was working on my rifle that he wouldn’t use anything else but claw extraction and in Africa and in several places push feed guns were even prohibited. He said over the years that several hunters had been killed when the push feed bolt failed to extract the spent round. He explained the small pin style extractor simply was not able to hold up or have the same pulling force to extract spent shells. He never discussed feeding or speed as you did but just looking at the face of the claw vs the tiny pin it made sense to me which one would positively remove rounds or for sure stood a better chance at it. I never asked questions because I didn’t plan on going to Africa at the time. He said several men were hurt or killed do to rounds getting stuck with push feed. He is no longer alive for me to ask but I trusted him and he and his son did do allot of big game hunting in Africa. I believe his son was one of the first people to take a .50 caliber bmg bolt gun to Africa. I remember seeing a photo of it and it had springs in the stock for recoil. This was obviously a very long time ago.
Excellent explanation Sir, Myself I prefer to use controlled feed rifles. I just like them, and with the standing ejector You can lightly toss the case out into Your hand, or throw it 6 feet away either an empty case or a loaded round. I also like My rifles to have a safety that actually blocks or captures the stryker. I am always nervous with a trigger block safety as all that is keeping the rifle from firing is the sear.
My hunting rifle is a Ruger Hawkwye 30 06, I have a Ruger Frontier .308 scout I use when in a ladder stand or on the move in thick woods.
I also have a Mauser 98 Guild Rifle with set triggers,and a vintage German scope in a Yeager style mount, and a 1943 Remington 1903A3 but I mainly just target shoot with them occasionally. Push feeds are good though, and I agree about the single column magazine. Great Video Sir.
I've got an old Mauser 98 that was sporterized in 270. That old gun came with an old weaver k6 scope and my wife absolutely hates me for proudly showing it to my friends almost every time they come by for supper. I just like it's looks more than anything else.
I found this really interesting given that I've owned Rem 700, sako A7, 75 & 85 and a cz 550. I fully agree, I had feeding problems at times with my Rem 700 which I've since sold but i really enjoy the sako which I've always considered a hybrid push feed. I do enjoy a solid controlled round feed like in my 550. Great video as always mr Selby.
As a gunsmith a guide and avid Hunter and outdoorsman I have used a Remington 700 from 40 below the nastiest weather here in Alaska I have personally killed charging grizzlies off the end of my rifle Remington will feed sideways upside down I’ve had my rifles covered in ice and crap never had an issue in 30 years I love my Winchesters and Ruger’s but you’re not going to go wrong with a Remington you also might want to put on some iron sights if something should happen to your scope!
Amen to that brother, you're also not gonna see any controlled round feed actions in a match or anywhere else where accuracy is relevant
Totally agree. I have had my rifles tangled up in mutiflora rose, grape vines and all sorts of nastyness and have never had a problem with a push feed. The controlled round feed seems like a solution looking for a problem. I'm no expert, but seems like a lot of over engenieering in my humble opinion. Appreciate the videos Randy. Thank you for sharing
Controlled round feed is considered more reliable due to extraction. Controlled round feed actions will always extract no matter what. Maybe considered a plus for dangerous game. For anything else push feed is more than adequate.
I own two Sako 75’s 270,308 and have been great rifles . Also a Tikka Ctr in 260 feels like the bolt is on ball bearings!
I’m not sure what’s brighter, the sun, or Randy’s legs lol
Great video as always, Randy
The X-bolt from Browning uses a rotary magazine that keeps the round centered. It is another excellent push feed gun.
All. Very interesting. I listened to it all. Very captivating. Information. Thanks
Hello Randy, great video. I have the same rifle in 300 win mag. It's been a great rifle and has never let me down.
Randy, I have a Tikka M695 270 winchester I deer hunt with in North Carolina , and i absolutely love this rifle. It shoots great and the action , i describe to others as a Swiss watch , it operates so smoothly. I was kinda shocked to see you with a Sako, "Tikka". Great video.
I keep losing my posted comments, so excuse me if you see this more than once: Mr. Selby, I don't like push feed because under stress one cartridge can
be pushed into the chamber, but with the bolt not pushed far enough for
the extractor to snap over the rim. Then, if the bolt is pulled back
again it can pickup another round and jam it against the first round
already in the chamber. I think this is called Double clutching. The
point of second round could also set off the primer in the first round.
I like controlled round feeding because as far as I know it can't have a
Double Clutch type jam.
Just added one to the collection.
I have a Cz550 and a Weatherby Mark V. I am very fond of both rifles but I LOVE my Mauser action.
Maybe it is just me, but I like controlled feed better, just like the Army and Marines did. You can clear the magazine by pumping the bolt back a forth without fully going into battery, something you can't do with push-feed. Controlled feed is also faster. The British army was the last service to give up bolt guns (SMLE) for selective fire rifles. Anyone familiar with British rapid bolt drill can fire as many AIMED shots per minutes as the average guy with a semiauto rifle. They can more quickly be reloaded with stripper clips.
Excellent video Randy..............CRF vs push feeds (which is better) will always be an on going subject for debate. It is up to the rifle owner regardless of action type to thoroughly understand and acquaint himself or herself to the rifle and to forecast ahead of time any possible life and death situation should that occur and how should that be handled when using the rifle..............Randy's story of the guy who got trampled by a buffalo is the perfect example. NOT the rifle's fault. In the heat of panic he did not bring the bolt all the way back. Given that, neither a CRF or a push feed would have prevented his trampling by a buffalo.....
I agree with you. I bought my 1st M995 in the late 1990's in 338 Lapua, liked the rifle so much I bought the next one (the last available in the U.S.!) in 30/06 wearing a Nikon 2-7. They're keepers.
Doesn’t it seem like all of the manufacturers discontinue the good stuff?
I have a tikka t3 and i absolutely love it. Thanks Randy i always enjoy your videos
My favorite rifle is a left handed Tikka 695 30-06 with wood stock, nice to know i have a well designed rifle
The extractor on a model 721, 722, 725 models is an unattached spring split loop that is sprung open to fit into a lip groove on the bolt face to be held in place (later 700 models have a small rivet filed flush to outer bolt surface to keep extractor secure. The extractor “tooth” to catch cartridge rim was enlarged to make engagement more positive). Original design was “rinky-dink” to pull a sticky case, but surprisingly this design works without extraction failure.
That is a beautiful Sako! Nice tutorial video and thank you! SUBSCRIBED👍🏻
I would like a Sako in 6.5x55. What do you think of the 6.5x55 Sir?
One of my biggest regrets is NOT purchasing a Sako M995 Magnum in 338 Lapua when they were offered. A wonderful rifle.
Jeff Wilkins Oh gee, great round, great action!
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784, I wound up building a 338 Lapua Improved on the CZ550 SAFARI Action (originally a .416 Rigby). ☺
Because of this video, I purchased a Sako M995 in 300 win mag. Love it. Except the magazines have been discontinued so I only have one.
I love the he relates everything off of experience. Tested tried and true is most relevant in life or death situations.
It comes out slow, takes time to over explain the explanation, is not the Cliff notes version, but is so very wise. Watch them all. If you know as much as he does, brevity isn't an option. And he gets you to remember it all. What an asset. Keep em coming. You impart real knowledge. Got it. Buy Sako.
Very nice piece of equipment sir thanks for taking the time
I cant speak for that particular model of Sako rifles, but the majority of push feeds require the bolt to close in order for the extractor to clip onto the cartridge. If you were to cycle the bolt bacl and forth like you have done with a loaded rifle, the first round would be left in the chamber, and the next round woild likely puncture that primer causing a cery dangerous condition. This happened to a member of my family, luckily no one was hurt in the incident. In contrast the controlled round feeding does not require one to close the bolt in order for the extractor to snap onto the catridge rim, and would eject each cartridge as you demonstrated.
Interesting! I just bought a SAKO M995 in 300WM. Cool!
I have a 995 and it is a superb rifle. I also have two Sako 75 Stainless Synthetic rifles ( 30.06 & 375 H&H ). The Sako 75s that I own are total excellence from Sako.
Enjoy your videos. Sorry you feel the way you do about Remingtons. I've been hunting 50 years with different rifles and have been using a Remington 700 for the last 6 or 7 years. It is very accurate and has never jammed, and I'm a guy who comes off the stock for a "look-see" if a follow-up shot is needed. I've held the rifle and stroked a round in during somewhat less than horizontal positions and never had a problem. I did have a Win Model 70, post '64, push feed that would jam under these circumstances when the rifle was titled vertical. Sakos are too expensive for my bank account.
I have 3 highly custom rifles built on Remington 700 actions. One is in 300 wm. I wouldn't trade any one if them for anything else. Especially the 300. Never had a single problem in 30 years of mule deer and elk hunting here in Colorado with those rifles. That bolt is butter! Having said that, Tikka is one of the finest made factory, off the shelf, rifles there is bar none! I bought my son one 20 years ago in 300 wm. It shoots extremely well. The Navy seal sniper rifle M91A2 is a Remington long action in 300 wm. Topped with a Nightforce Nxs 8-32x56 scope. This was Chris Kyle's favorite rifle with which he made most of his kills! There is no harsher environment than the "sand box" when it comes to rifle function!
I personally do not like Mauser actions or Winchester rifles. Just my personal preference. Sako, Tika, Browning, and yes Remington are my favorites. I've hinted for 52 years and precision loaded for over 30 years. All that said. Randy is the master gunsmith period! His understanding is deep and broad.
Thank you sir for this information you’re well respected
Great video. It’s nice to hear I have a quality rifle. I have the M995 in the warbird. I plan on passing it to my son. Never to sell thx randy.
Randy my Mauser in 25-06 has worked perfectly in the worst weather I’ve hunted in. I haven’t hunted really bad weather with my Winchester 94.
I like a controlled feed for a couple reasons, mainly because I can clear the mag without closing the bolt. Good safety feature, plus with the ruger you can hold down the trigger while closing the bolt and lower the firing pin slowly without having to dry fire it to relax the spring.
You can do that with most bolt actions.
I hunt and use both Model 700 and Model 70' both post and pre 64 models. I would not hesitate to hunt anything with either action type as long as the rifle has proven reliable. I believe some rifles do not have the feed rails adjusted correctly.
I too have hunted in freezing conditions like you describe in a wet freezing snow. I also had a Model 70 push feed jam one day Antelope hunting, I sold it and purchased another Model 70 push feed and it has been flawless.
I also can't think of more dangerous game than out troops in Afghanistan and as a ExMarine I know the Model 700 is still serving them well. I also know there are more good rifles than good shots. My take shoot what you like but verify its reliability.
Randy, thank you for explaining how excellent some push-feeds are. Sako/Tikka are also excellent for their short bolt throws. I would only use a short throw action for a Dangerous Game Rifle and I own a Wby. Mark V LH in 378 Weatherby in case I ever get the chance. God bless my friend.
All tikkas are built on the long action. They use a modified bolt stop to turn it into a short action.
PG sorry I should’ve used the term short lift bolt. Short lift bolts like Tikka, Browning A-Bolt and X-Bolt, Weatherby etc give you lots of clearance for your reloading so you don’t hit your scope. You are correct about Tikka actions.
All tikkas are long actions, all of them.
@@alanmeyers3957 yes they are.
Good article,hope you mention lousy Remington extractors in one of your viedos !
The Sako L46 of 1946 had this push feed from a single stack magazine... I have to admit, I didn't know this until I saw this video and noticed the feeding of my old 222 L46.
Best explanation yet , thank you .
I have a mauser 98 rifle and its a control round feed and its ok, its super heavy and does the job . I also have a new push feed rifle and will now use his rifle for my hunting rifle. I think a pushfeed would be faster for out in the field and deer hunting. I do love my mauser action and control round feed but you have to load them into the magazine first to load them. It gives the round more control but i like the faster action of the push feed. I own a savage axis 2 xp and its a push feed and i love it, 243 is a great hunting round. You can keep dropping a bullet into the rifle like a single shot really fast if you need too. My mauser 98 rifle is a commercial mauser 98 and its a Centurion 123 30.06 which i still do love very much. Id use a push feed for a dangerous game hunt.
Thank you for clearing up that age old question about push feed versus controlled feed. Very informative video! I have a question though, why do you feel so strongly about Remington rifle’s? Do you consider a Remington 700 BDL inferior? Thank you again for sharing your ancient wisdom :-)
There are better mouse traps. Try a Tikka and Rem to see how they work. Tikka is by far better.
I have a weatherby vanguard and have had no problems at all with feeding. I’ve ran it upside down, side ways and various things and no failure. I’ll stick with it...
It doesn't get any better than a Model 70 Winchester IMHO....and yes I've owned Sako's and many others too.
Yessir!! Amen, brother! The only other rifles that compare are the Ruger 77MKII and Hawkeye's, IMO. But there is just something about a Model 70 Sporter and a Model 70 Featherweight, Ive never been able to choose a favorite between those 2 models I love them so much. I would choose the Featherweight for actually walking around and hunting, while I choose the Sporter for more shooting off the bench and target shooting mainly because of the differences between the Schnabel style forend on the Featherweight doesnt work very well with Harris bipods. That's really the only difference I see between the use of each model. The Model 70 is without a doubt the classiest, most absolutely beautiful rifles ever made, IMO.
Yeeeaaarrrsss ago /I had a PF M70 built. The lugs were lapped, it had a Fajen stock, a Timney 2 1/4# trigger ( metallic silhouette ) a Hart 24" medium weight barrel in 26-06 (6.5mm-06) That rifle never ever failed to feed, extract eject. I slow-fired it, single-drop fired -it and rapid fired it..never a hiccup in over 2600 rounds.
I have two Sakos and I don't have anything bad to say about them. They are silky smooth. I hunted in the Canadian artic and my 300 WSM went buried in snow all the time with no issues.
I prefer Model 70 action smoothness and feel to the Model 700. With that said I almost exclusively use model 700 for hunting. Definitely faster follow up shots with push feeds. Another fine video Sir.
i just sold a jc higgins 30.06 that had a Belgium FN mauser action.. it was in cosmolene until 2011
Very interesting thanks for sharing.
7mm weatherby is on my buy list. And I do want it in a controlled round feed.
Was really glad you didn’t say you had that rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor 😂
IT's NEEDMOOR
If you need a 6.5, the x55 Swede is there, the original and still highly developed. Near as I can figure, the Creed was invented because the Swede is too long to fit in an AR-10 platform.. though in Europe one such rifle IS produced, and not imported into the US. We get the compromise and work-around stuff.
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784, an Ackley Improved 6.5x55 is a dandy round. 👍🏼
I am sick of hearing about the Creedmore too. LOL In an AR 10 it makes sense, but in a bolt action for long range like its touted ,it's kind of silly, when You could have a much more potent cartridge like a .300 Win Mag. LOL
I’ll stick with my 300 win mag. Bergara B-14. Shot a deer this morning at 492 yards down here in south Ga. Dead on impact.
I guess I could call my Ruger #1 a push feed. I open the action and push a round in and then close the action. So in that aspect I don't mind my push feed.
Controlled feed started with the M98 Mauser? How would you describe the M 93, 94, 95 and 96 Mauser ? Seriously though, what your thoughts on the Rem 700? Are the safetys defective ? Your thoughts on Mike Walker ?
thanks
The m93, 94, 95 and 96 are all controlled round feed.
The difference in time is negligible, controlled feed vs. push feed. What is paramount is accuracy and you can't have that with hurried snap shots. I have always owned a
Model 70 Winchester in various calibers that have never failed yet, so, I'll stick w/ them.
With all due respect, Sako is pronounced like sock-oh. Great videos. Really enjoy your candor.
I just got my Remington 721 oldest rifle I have in my only long action. I am still getting used to the length of that bolt pull. I’ve had it out twice and have short stroked it twice as many times as that. And I hear a click and my first thought is wait 30 seconds every time it’s been a failure to pick up a round
top center line magazine sligthly prevents double feed. Cuz until cartridge isnt almost in chamber, other cannot pop up. So double feed can act only when you fully closed bolt, dont lock it and try it chamber again. Very unlikely.
My newest is a Browning X Bolt in 270 Winchester. 😃👍
X bolts are wonderful and accurate rifles.
I have three x bolts. Solid accurate rifles.
I absolutely love the feel of the Browning Rifles, they feel like a wand in the hand.
I've had 12 Sako Deluxes with AV push feed actions, 13 Remington Model 700 rifles, in addition to 3 Weatherby Mark Vs. All new, none used. Almost all of them had custom barrels, or were gone over by a gunsmith to check for reliability. Almost all were in the heavy calibers. All had staggered, floor plate style magazines, except for the 378 Weatherby which had vertical feeding due to its large Rigby-sized case. No feeding problems with the Weatherbys and Sakos, but the same can't be said for the Model 700s. Especially with Ultra Magnum calibers. I've had five Model 700's in that series, with the 300 Ultra Magnum being my favorite caliber. The latter would feed every cartridge, except the one it was designed for. The fat .550" case head with a .534" rebated rim made feeding impossible, thus it became a single shot. Several gunsmiths were unable to do anything, so Remington chose to replace the stock and convert it to their detachable box magazine version - only now the modified Remington magazine, which then fed reliably, only held 2 cartridges. I would never trust Remington push feed rifles unless they had been been fitted with aftermarket DBM magazine, like those from HS precision. Expensive, but a lot cheaper than losing your life to a large bear, as happened to an Alaskan guide that short stroked his Model 700, 416 Remington Magnum on a charging grizzly bear.
Hi Randy , Love the channel... quick question, since the sako 995 isn’t produced anymore , which current sako rifle would you recommend ? Thanks
All of the Sako's are good. It will depend on your hunting needs to get a rifle that "fits" for you.
Thanks for watching. Good shooting.
The Real Gunsmith what’s your opinion and or fix for the sako 85 action with the ejector in the 6 o’clock position slamming your casings into the bottom of the scope?
Push feeds will jam if the rifle is shaken or turned upside down (or at a steep angle) whilst firing. Not to mention jamming during a "hesitation" stroke under stress. If the SHTF when you're hunting dangerous game (like Cape Buffalo) - you want controlled feed. A push feed bolt is cheaper to manufacture... that's why gun manufacturers push them (pardon the pun).
Your comment is not applicable to the Sako I showed in this video, it will always feed, slow, fast, frost, at any angle and even upside down. It is the best of all systems. Not all push feeds were manufactured to this standard, however.
Thanks for watching!
I had a Remington 721 that would feed perfectly upside down, sideways, uphill, downhill..... No failure to feed, fire, or eject. Ever.
The rifle I use the most is a push-feed Ruger M77 Ultralight in .250 Savage that I've had since 1985. No failure to feed, fire, or eject. Ever.
Maybe some push-feed rifles have feeding issue as described in the comment above but not all do.
I don’t always assume an upside down when I shoot at dangerous game, but if I did it’d be because the animal was killing me anyway
I feel some of is video at the end is him using anecdotal evidence of his experience with a well made rifle and he himself have a high degree of proficiency with rifles. However, this does not prove that one method of feed is better than another. Many a person have gone to Africa/war/hunting with controlled feed and can attest to its reliability. End of the day thank you for an informative video and your opinions on what has worked for you.
I own a Remington 700 in caliber .338 win. mag. And I never had an eating problem. I have tested it in loads as fast as I could. I would never trade my Remington for a Mauser action. And much less for a Tikka, which I find rubbish
Can push feed action rifles without detachable magazines still be cycled faster that control feed actions?
6:28 So true! Why fix it if it isn't broken?
Thanks!
What is the magazine capacity of the sako 995 in a magnum cartridge? There is one for sale in 300 weatherby I’m contemplating on purchasing. It’s advertised for $1130, thoughts?
It is a very good rifle, I don't think you will be disappointed. 4 rounds.
Good shooting. Thanks for watching.
Failure to chamber a round sends you home at sniper school, failure at the hunt or the battlefield you may get killed. Know your equipment...
In theory a push feed is faster but a Mauser 98 or Win 70 will shoot as fast as 98% people can shoot. Push feed or control round feed, it doesn't matter.
Personally I’m a Weatherby Mark V deluxe fan.
What do you think of the Mod 70 Winchester 30-06 push feed made in 1970? Please honest opinion!
The push feed works very well.
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May you and yours stay safe and well.
Great.
Not to get off the subject but do you have any videos on proper neck tension? How many Thousands? Thanks
No I don't.
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Not planning to shoot anything while upside down, I'm happy with my push feeds. Although I also have some Ruger and Winchester controlled round feed rifles, I tolerate them...
From Cathy, The Real Gunsmith's Wife: A few people have been in that position when attacked, it's just nice to know in the "what if" situation it WOULD work.
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@@TheRealGunsmith Agree, and the 44 mag I carry in bear country should work upside down also. Love the channel, keep the videos coming...
Also, if, for whatever reason you push the bolt about 3/4 way closed, then cartridge stays where it is in the receiver, or moves forward on its own into the chamber, then for whatever unforseen reason you retract the bolt all the way to the rear and pick up another round, then JAM! You have a double - feed... With a CRF that first round would have moved rearward with the bolt.
The Lee-Enfield is also controlled round feed but very fast
Hagen what's beautiful about the Lee Enfield is yes the extractor does feed the round controlling the rim out of the magazine. BUT what makes it better in my opinion than the Mauser design, is that the Lee Enfield extractor is spring loaded to snap over the cartridge rim so you can single feed by simply dropping a round into the chamber and closing the bolt and firing. True Mauser bolts must feed from the magazine so if you lost the detachable mag it's tough to load. That's why it's rare to find Mausers with detachable mags.
Love my tikka t3 smooth and reliable poor man sako lol my question is what's your thoughts on t3s recoil lug system?
Yes would like to know your take on that as well.
Put me down as another person that would also like your honest opinion on that subject.
It is just fine. Well made. Good shooting all and thanks for watching and commenting.
tikka now do steel recoil lugs as in the new t3x that fit the t3's but to date i have around 1000 rounds through my t3 super varmint in 300wm with zero problems of any kind so i see no reason to change.
Some people just don't like the aluminum lug or the plastic bolt shroud for that matter but unless you intend smacking it with a hammer it will be fine
a light palma cotour to heavy for a long range hunting rifle in 300 win mag? Tikka action, bell and Carlson stock
Send an email to Randy at randyselby@randyscustomrifles.com.
I do consider the Tikka good, but heavy as a hunting rifle to carry around.
I have that exact rifle in 7.82 Lazzeroni Warbird
One day I would like your thoughts on the Steyr bolt action... Magazine characteristics, bolt to rear of round centering, closing of action on the round, performance in poor weather, etc. Any extra thoughts on the Jeff Cooper Steyr “ranch rifle” would be even more of a treat.
I am not a fan from any aspect of the rifle or Cooper.
Great Video. I was ready to sell my M995 7 mag but not any more. Rifle action is super smooth and accurate but Im 75 now and wanted a lighter caliber.
I wish he had axplained why the controlled round feed was the slowest to "manipulate". The only reason I can think of is having to push the cartridges into the magazine. Once the cartridges are in the magazine, I don't see why the action would be any slower to "manipulate" than any other action. Or is he talking about the removeable magazine? Yes it is quicker to pop out the empty and pop in a loaded magazine, but you still have to load the additional magazine, and what if you don't have a second magazine?
My experiences and research have convinced me that the Sako 995 is the best model Sako ever produced. Just try buying a used one if you can find one for sale. That action has been the basis of many, many custom barrelled rifles. I have one friend that owns one and he'll never sell.
Yessir l see guys short stroking their rifles on the range because they are so worried about their brass. They will do the same thing out hunting. It’s muscle memory. Also l could give several examples of companies that have their products developed to perfection then they have to monkey around with it and change it. I am thinking of the original Ruger M77. Push feed with that big old mauser extactor that ALWAYS works never breaks or falls off. The wirking man’s hunting rifle that performs like a thousand dollar custom job.🤠
I am saving for a Sako in 7mm.
That is probably the finest rifle I've ever handled next to my 700BDL..
Your personal preference is the only preference I take it? I think i would trust something i build by hand.
I bought a tikka for my first hunting rifle. Bought a sako for second hunting rifle
Mr Selby, if You by chance would have some time to spare, would you mind showing us the two M995s.
There is not much information about the model on the internet and Your comments would be much appreciated.
Allso your oppinion about scope mounts and rebarreling these rifles?
Sincerely
J.
Rye and coke beside him. Awesome 😎
From Cathy, The Real Gunsmith's Wife: I hate to burst your bubble, but it's tea. ;) His standby. Mine is kombucha, which is fermented tea, but I can't get him to touch it.
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Then it was a very good thing I had a Savage 11/111 in 7mm Rem. Mag. when a black bear charged me. Thank the Lord the bear eventually changed directions. If the savage had been a controlled feed, I don’t know if I could have cycled the shots fast enough. I think the shots missed because the bear never reacted to the shots except to change direction. I thought black bear were small in South Carolina, but this one was big. Around 5’ on all fours and as long as I am tall-5’6”. It was an overcast day with high winds and dry. What I don’t understand is he was downwind of me and didn’t run at me until about 50’-100’ away. Surely he smelled me a long ways off because black bear are known to be able to pick up a scent upwind 20 miles away. But still, I thank God the bear changed directions.
Glad you made it out of that with no harm.
Me too.
I have been fortunate to not have had any close calls. Both of our sons have. And haven't had to kill any bear to protect their life or the lives of their hunters, but some of those calls were dicey.
Be safe.
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