Are Video Game Characters TOO SEXY?!
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- Stellar Blade has reignited the debate around sex appeal & sexism in videos games. Some people claim a character like Eve promotes unrealistic body standards in gaming, while others are happy that the character looks so good.
But when does Sex Appeal in video games work, and when does it go too far? And can anything even be changed about it? Let's find out...
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___TIME STAMPS___
Introduction - 0:00
Why Games Are Marketed Towards Men - 1:53
Games Should Sexualize Men More - 3:43
What’s Wrong With Stellar Blade - 5:29
Appealing to the Male & Female Gaze - 10:24
Good & Bad Examples of Sexualization - 13:13
“Unrealistic Body Standards” & Body Positivity - 16:31
Conclusion - 22:08 
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Who's the hottest video game character and why is it Uncle?
Halo 4 cortana 🍷🗿
Arthur Morgan.
That lumbago got me actin up
That maybe but to me Lady Dimitrescu🥵🔥
Batman from The Arkham universe
The only sex appeal I like is democracy
Damm right brother I will see you out on the field
FOR SUPER EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Based
🫡
AMEN TO THAT
thank you for spreading democracy, diver
If every woman in tights is supposed to be a sex object, then my high school is The Red Light District.
Exactly. If a girl isn't wearing shorts shorter than my underwear, then they're wearing tights.
Ikr? Aren't tights super trending atm? Not really at the pulse anymore...sounding more and more like a dad 😭
Sometime I wonder if the women are objectifying themselves
Same but here in college instead. 😂😂😂
Maybe we should just accept we are raising young women to be sloots?
men don't care if a 300lbs pure muscle dude is the protagonist of game, movie, etc, we take it as a role model, but when women see an attractive women, well...
Basic human nature really
Women love sexy women too.
I as a woman... whenever I see bayonetta I want her to ruin me.
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Big problem happen.
As a girl gamer, I think their is nothing wrong with having good looking male & female characters. As for your question on who is the sexiest game characters. I will pick Geralt from The Witcher 3 & Lie Fang from the Dead or Alive games lol.
If the games don't make the female characters attractive enough the artists/modders will
Modders gotta start working on Fable ASAP
@@TheActMannah
Yeah cuz they're weird
Overwatch SFM hentai > Overwatch
@@thegreatacolyt1277 Not really. It isn't weird to want characters to not look ugly.
As a sexy character myself, I was so glad to see myself represented with Uncle in Red Dead Redemption 2.
Sexiness is his serious medical condition
You, are a SEXY BEAST
@@ShrimpEmporium Lumbagosexual
@@ShrimpEmporiumi thought it was the lumbago
@@almightyrasenSame thing
Us men don't bitch about how muscular or unattainable their physique are when were represented. We embrace there strength and athleticism!
Its probably males complaining about this ngl
That's because we're too stupid and actually try to achieve that physique without realising it's unrealistic.
And those who complain about it in the other hand are to lazy and wouldn't try to achieve it.
So what did I learn from this? It's that neither of us are smart
@@Vasanthakumar1234 Doomer take. Unrealistic stantards can be an objective to strive for even if the real goal is merely to get closer to said standard.
@@xelinco3005 Yeah i certainly agree, but the problem is there are people who do try to achieve these unrealistic standards and don't stop at the "closest to said standard". Its the reason you see a lot of people getting into steroids or trying so hard to maintain a single digit body fat % to a point that they are so damn depressed and tired all the time. and then there are the people on Instagram posing with great physiques with perfect lighting and enough blood pumping through their muscles that if a mosquito fed on them it'll prolly fracture its beak in the pressure. I can mostly agree with unrealistic body standards when it comes to video games cause we know they aren't actually real but this is certainly an issue when it comes to movies or social media.
Or the fact that it seems like the only morbidly obese characters like Bob from Tekken, Goldlewis Dickinson from Guilty Gear, Earthquake from Samurai Shodown, or Roadhog from Overwatch are dudes. We just go “THIS BIG MF HITS LIKE A TRUCK!”
There's no such thing as too sexy! Sex sells! The devs make characters sexy in their own way! Nuff said!
Some people just don't care for sex appeal. They simply want an overall fun game! Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade are doing just that!
and then there's the part where anyone can be sexy to someone, so what these "too sexy" ones are.. are just conventionally attractive to the majority. some people might like them flat or tomboy for example.
@@Chillwave6 indeed
I dont really care for sex appeal in video games but if youre making a game anyway might as well make them not ugly. And making characters unattractive on purpose just to pander to twitter is lame. If you want to make a character ugly do it for a good reason and make it part of the story. I wouldnt mind playing a game with a butt ugly protagonist who gets insulted and ridiculed and denied opportunities in life just for looking like the behind of a donkey, that would be an interesting experience and actual social commentary.
But instead game devs are submitting to the twitter mob and making characters look like twitter users without it having any relevance to the game and that I consider spineless behaviour.
Thing that are certain in life:
1: Death
2: Taxes
3: Twitter mob being offended by everything…
Let me put more: 4. Companies are very greedy and want money, almost working a lot of the times
5. People want strong content
6. People get angry at anything because of a game
7. We are made of flesh
8. We reproduce like crazy
9. People took it seriously when a videogame was controversial.
10. People don't understand some things
@@derekmaullo2865 7. people treat fictional characters as real people and will dox, frame, blackmail, accuss people of everything and anything.
@@derekmaullo2865 Kinda of bastardizing the OP comment but:
11. The rest of the human race will let you down and make you wish you were omnipotent in your backyard resting moments.
11. Content creator milking the shit out of it
Amen to that
Bro by that logic, I should hate the Arkham games. They gave Batman the biceps of a damn gorilla. Unrealistic standards.
Never forget -> racism and sexism only go one way.
Well men tend to see those unrealistic proportions as goals to reach anyway, meanwhile the best way to reach the perfect female figure is plastic surgery, unless we can all make muscular tomboys the new standard so everyone can start grinding
@@thechugg4372 Men can't reach Arkham batman's physic without anabolics, a pump, hundreds of work out hours, and peak genes, and generally being dehydrated. Men 'want' to look more like them the same way a girl may 'want' to look more like black widow. The healthy individuals just get in the gym and get as close as possible, no one thinks they're going to look like Batman.
Chicks can get bigger buns and better shapes by just being in the gym. Just not racks.
🤦♀️
@@thechugg4372 yeah, you are not getting batman's biceps without roids or making fitness your life, they are most certainly not a realistic goal
Sexy woman in game
Women: such unrealistic body standards 😒
Sexy man in game
Men: I must begin training! 😤
There's also another thing to consider : they're characters in a fictional setting. They're created, not real people. They can be whatever the devs want them to be for the purpose of the game they're working on. For Stellar Blade, they wanted a sexy, fit young looking woman and that's what they designed. For Gears of War, they wanted ultra-macho built man tanks that moved about as deftly as an overweight bulldozer. For Mass Effect, they wanted blue skinned space babes.
So they did. And that's okay because that is their vision of what their fictional setting is about.
Another example in fantasy that comes up often : elves. In most settings, elves are smaller, graceful and dexterous. They're the peak of beauty and grace. Then you come across some games where elves are presented differently. In FFXIV, elves (aka Elezens) are tall, lanky with long necks and while they retain some kind of elven theme to them, they definitively do not fit the mold most people would think an elf to be. And yet, people don't complain about it (well, giraffe neck jokes aside) and they simply accept it as part of the fictional setting as it is.
And heck, having beautiful female (and male) protagonist isn't something that is desired only by men : how many clips you can find of women having the hots for beautiful female characters? Plenty of them... I'd even say that they're often FAR more obvious about it than men are because gawd forbid a man shows he's actually finding a bunch of pixels sexy but a woman can basically drool on camera and no one bats an eye.
Those that complain about it? They're the ones caught in the middle, they're the people who are insecure about themselves and feel that they shouldn't be the ones to change but should have everyone else conform to their personal standards. Those people are vocal because they're not willing to do something about themselves and would rather try to make everyone else feel guilty because they don't share their faults.
I'm not at a healthy weight myself and I'll never claim to be a "big beautiful man" because I objectively know I am the sole person responsible for that problem but I'm not going out of my way to admonish characters like Leon Kennedy or Marcus Fenix for being buff and/or fit and campaigning them to be fat like I am. I want Leon Kennedy, Nathan Drake or any male protagonist to look good because that could be a goal I can set myself to try and reach if only to improve myself just a bit more. It doesn't make me angry, it gives me motivation.
They're fictional characters, they're fantasy, they're heroes, villains and the side characters that we can to embody, fight or help. So if a dev wants to make an objectively fat character be the hero of their game, go ahead... but they'd better not start crying because *other devs* do not do the same; they chose to go that route and the others chose to take other routes. And trying to take existing, established character and changing them just to fit some kind of agenda is wrong and it should definitively be called out. Respect established character for who they are, what they represented back then and what they represent now, good AND bad.
*"Sex sells in every industry."*
- The Based Man
This isn't even accurate anymore though. It keeps being repeated despite being proven false.
@@thewholething430 You say that like it's a good thing, it's not
@@thewholething430well context is also important but it's safe to say in a huge amount of cases it does
@@thewholething430it kinda still is true, but dude it's not that serious
@@thewholething430 There's a reason why Sydney Sweeney became famous, for example.... Couple of reasons, actually
I started working out so I could have a body like Leon Kennedy’s. It’s been over 16 months and I couldn’t be happier with my choice. And it’s all thanks to a hot character from a video game. More attractive characters please.
Extremely based, can’t wait to get my kratos physique
Great job!!
They don't call him Leon Sex Appeal Kennedy for nothing!
You’re not a real man 💀 talk to me when you have the Kingpin physique
@@TheActManWheres everyone going, the gym?
How bad is someones insecurity that they have to make everyone ugly in a video game instead of just finding someone to love them unconditionally?
You still believe in unconditional love? In current year? Can we trade places?
My problem with Horizon 2 is that when i see Aloy i can't help but to remember Nicocado Avocado
she ate the dinosaur's
TRUE!
I don't find her that ugly nor pretty. She just looks too much like him...
Maybe she'd be more attractive if she had AN ACTUAL PERSONALITY
it's terrible modeler's job because Hannah Hoekstra is so beautiful
Huh, I guess it just y'all because I agree that in the trailer she doesn't look that much flattering, but in game she looks good (beautiful for me, ok for y'all I guess )
@zorlord7507 Everyone has a different type, and sometimes guys will shame other guys for that, but honestly most guys don't agree on what is attractive. That is normal, we all have different tastes, and tastes change over time and by experience. I think she looks nice. Not exactly my type, but not ugly either. Everyone has their own taste.
Thanks Actman for finally making a review of sex
When will they release Sex 2 tho??
@@TheActMan dunno man, gotta ask TheSexyMan
@@TheActMan Sex 2 Electric Boogaloo Revengeance part 1.
@@TheActMan they won't - they can just keep updating the first's engine indefinitely, as long as people still play it...
@TheActMan yeah really enjoyed the review of Sex. I hope to try it some day
People care too much about bodies of video game characters, but when it comes to their own body they neglect it.
especially when its fictional characters that we know are unrealistic af but love like Goku for example
That's why attractive characters upset them. It reminds them they've failed
@@Gohan_rodgokus physic is not unrealistic. Just workout have a good diet and you get like that.
@imsentinelprime9279 its unrealistic in the sense that he has muscles on top of muscles to make it more aesthetic and pop more in the anime. Dude has like a 10 pack. You can train hard for years, eat properly and never reach that level. You also have to take into account ppls genetics are different, meaning some muscles might look different or bigger. Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger who is one of if not the greatest body builder ever. He's huge but nothing like goku. Aslo goku is natty💪 most guys that are really big are on the juice. Nonetheless, gokus body or any fictional character's body shouldn't be looked as a beauty standard. We should instead admire the lessons goku taught us, to train and never give up to be better stonger versions of ourselves...
@@imsentinelprime9279don’t forget the steroids
This is basically the best take on this topic I've watched yet. Massive kudos.
I ain't gay but Kiryu being shirtless oiled up and huffing and puffing beating some mf's ass is and has been the most hype moments in the Yakuza series
Just look at Mei in Overwatch -- literally covered her in a snowsuit and the internet still creates thirst traps of her.
But she is beautiful and people are making fanart of her being thiccy and not fat how is supposed to be!
/s
Why did Mercy feel the need to rebuild Genji's cyborg body with such a sweet ass?
The world may never know.
Thus proving that you don't need to put your female characters in a string bikini for people to like them.
They can also have a personality besides being a hot girl, and people will _still_ like them.
They don't even have to be human! We literally have furries in this world 💀
@@Zeverinsenthis is admittedly a similar take I got. Think about all the smutty fanart of some cartoon characters eith no sex appeal. I consider it as more attracted to vibe/aesthetic
@@thomasritzgerald4997FOOL! It was entirely necessary!
With an ass that tight and firm, he can sneak up on any enemy without a single sound!
My girl has natural H-I sized cups and allways gets triggerd if someone says that boobeys need to be smaller cause its not realistic... 😂
Thats even more than in any fanart/anime/videogame...😂😂
nice
Respect
I salute you
As a woman, I'm perfectly okay with attractive looking ladies like Bayo; I don't get what's so offensive about a conventionally attractive woman. I wonder if it's just out of jealousy, like "I cAn NeVeR lOoK lIkE tHaT sO sHe CaN't EiThEr!"
Unrealistic characters tend to be the most fun, like Dante from Devil May Cry. Speaking of the Wacky Woohoo Pizza Man himself, I don't see people complaining when he literally went shirtless for the entirety of DMC3.
And for clarification, I'm not even attracted to ladies, I like me some big horned guys like The Iron Bull from Dragon Age: Inquisition and Hellboy or men who could definitely throw me with one hand, like Guts.
I just don't like looking at uncanny valley ahh "female" characters like that new Fable protag and MJ from Spider-Man 2.
Girls in games with hips and boobs modeled after a real woman - "They're too sexy it's unattainable beauty standards for women."
Cratos lifting the weight of the gods and looking absolutely jacked - "I need to go to the gym and look like him."
It is unatainable for women with an unlucky roll of the genetic dice.
@@bobdobbz9334
Going to the gym can achieve the same goal for women
@@jackcolson4745No, going to the gym will not increase cup size. They might look up to a muscular woman in media and strive for that but unlike muscle mass, hip and breast size is not something you can control.
@@D-Doc-CI feel like breast size is overrated. Flat chested women should just be happy that they don’t get back problems and have a lower risk of breast cancer.
@@bobdobbz9334 It is unatainable for me as a men (through an unlucky roll with genetics) to look like Kratos as well, you don't see me crying about it either.
I'm not gonna change the fact that i like hot people in fictional media, just because some snowflake can't live up to a *fictional* standart.
Twitter getting mad at a slim asian woman for being an unrealistic body standard, and not getting mad at Lady Dimitrescu, goes to show they think being not fat is more unrealistic than being 8+ feet tall
It's more of a *Reddit* mob thing now. *Twitter* is equal parts BASED, since *Elon* fixed it.
@@Chadw1cKed Did he, though?
@@Chadw1cKed
Internet buzzwords
They were OK with Lady D because she is a boss girl who tortures the white male protagonist. But Ashley in RE4 being a cute damsel in distress with upskirts and ballistics was a problem.
It's a constant double standard that is really pissing people off.
Not being fat is actually achievable with some effort, and that scares them.
omg... i know the sanity prayer from my journey to battle addiction... never thought about hearing it outside those circles.. amazing vid man!!!
Boy oh boy, do I love the modding community
Same. 😊
Too bad Capcom and Bandai don't. I swear it's like they saw what other companies do here in the US and copied them.
@@JohnDoe-gt3jr The whole Capcom thing is specifically triggered by that one snafu of a prominent streamer using a nude Chun-Li mod or whatever. Regardless about how you feel about it, it's bad publicity, and hurts the image of the company, the franchise, and the character. It doesn't matter "what it's supposed to be like", no amount of explanation or apologies will change how the greater public will react. It'll show up in the headlines, mothers will clutch their pearls and pass out, and then a bunch of kids will be told by their misinformed parents that they aren't allowed to watch EVO this year, because it's FULL OF PORN.
The truth doesn't matter. Perception matters. It's 100% why Nintendo shuts down fan games and emulation. It doesn't matter that "that game only crashed and gave a that one kid a seizure because it was a modded version running in an emulator". The press, and uninformed guardians/consumers aren't going to sit there and do their research and be, all, "Oh, it wasn't actually Nintendo's fault". They're going to see video games/a franchise, see something they don't like, and run away with it like a Buzzfeed writer.
If their reputation (and, therefore, the investments of their shareholders) weren't on the line, I'm sure there are plenty of Capcom employees that would be down with mods. Things that harm a game's image, and sometimes the community, can and do come in the form of mods, and the games can be fun without mods... so the reasonable/intelligent thing for them to do is say "No mods", and then... let everybody play the games and have fun anyway.
Which is not to say I don't love mods. Just saying, I understand where they're coming from. When you finally realize that Capcom, Bamco, Nintendo, etc.'s product/money maker isn't their games, but, instead, *their reputation*, then you'll understand why they do a lot of what they do.
“I jerk off to pixels and drawings” is a weird thing to publicly state.
Nexus mods? Lol.
Remember if the girl is hot it's unrealistic, but if the man is hot men want to look like him.
Like act man said its a "you" issue.
Im not at my ideal physique, ive been working on it for years. Still overweight but im good. When i watch Dragon ball or other anime with muscular dudes i get the urge to workout. Its all about the mindset. People who think this is a problem arent right in the head or have self esteem issues.
If the man isn't hot, they're just a normal dude.
If a women isn't hot, it's the woke mob hating hot women and stealing away all our male eye candy.
If someone bitches about plain looking woman, they're a nobhead. If someone bitches about a pretty looking lady, they're a nobhead. Apply this rule evenly, then again to male characters for even coverage, and you'll be able to figure out who on what side isn't worth listening to without nary an issue!
𝗜𝗥𝗥𝗘𝗗𝗘𝗘𝗠𝗔𝗕𝗟𝗬 𝗦𝗘𝗫𝗬 𝗔𝗥𝗚𝗨𝗠𝗘𝗡𝗧
@@corbinkendall6330Every men of every race wanted to be like Goku when they were a kid... and even as adults
*goes super saiyan*
You can conclude from that, that women are lazy and men are ambitious lol.
God damn you nailed again, I love your videos with this comic style and also with a good statement of the situation, amazing as always, stay classy ^^
Majority of gamers are male. Most female gamers play mobile games. Mobile games, not console games. Besides, even women appreciate hot females.
Yeah, vast majority of games you see female gaming RUclipsrs make their 30 minute essays about almost always involve some kind of "attraction" to it regarding to female characters. Either the playable character is hot or there's bunch of relationship stuff. Women just prefer feminine games over masculine games. Overwatch has massively bigger ratio of men/women compared to other shooters solely because they have sexy female characters that the women want to play as and dress up with skins.
Loud & wrong lol .. I bet you get fooled into buying their onlyfans content
It’s about how they carry themselves Laura Croft is sexy but has a badass personality
first
Carry them ahhtahs
Them hoo nanners
Lara*
Lara Croft
....The Bayonetta defense is so wild. Her cloths are made of her hair and her most powerful abilities practically strip her naked.
The best thing you can do with overly sexualized and/or ugly characters in gameplay and/or plot is have their appearance tied to it.
they just forgot when Bayonetta come up, they also yell "sexism" to the game.
@@yishinliu2246 Bayonetta was designed by a woman plus her character fits her design as well. She is unapologetically sexual and bold and owns it. Haven't played stellar yet but I hope Eve is not just sexy but interesting as well.
@@ogikay7056Eve was also designed by a woman. Hell, her entire character is a bodyscan of an actual woman.
@@Yodalemos That's not what I mean lol. Bayonetta was designed BY a woman. Eve designed by a man. Eve is not 1 on 1 scan of the actor like Fragile.
The Act Man on point as usual!! Great video my G
The hypocrisy of complaining about sexualising virtual characters but onlyfans is ok tho..
That said... Ada Wong from the original RE4 was a good enough reason for me to play the game all over multiple times
Sexualizing fictional characters is wrong. Sexualizing yourself for money is good. Get it now?
I can only imagine how Shin Jae-eun (the actress they body scanned for Eve) must feel about this. Like she is so attractive, that her body being in a video game made other people mad and called it unrealistic. Imagine that being the reason your trending rn, imagine how that makes the dude lucky enough to date her feel. It’s kind of hilarious.
Well, it's probably 80% plastic surgery, so it is unrealistic.
@@ledkitKorean diet and lifestyle is healthier than the average American diet and lifestyle. This is pretty much most of Asia too.
Considering how Korean media responded to IGN France and some other western media complaints, I'm sure she'll be fine. She and the rest of Korea are probably just laughing about how ridiculous some people in the west are.
@@ledkit that’s kinda a rude accusation to make. Or do you have proof?
@@luckystarplays1837 Rate of plastic surgeries in Korea kinda speaks for me.
Women: ugh she’s so unrealistic 😐
Men: damn I gotta hit the gym
lets be real, we think about it for a second and then just sit down again and keep playing our games rofl
🎯
@@atlantah5496dont say rofl again
@@_9br right we say LMAO nowadays, lmao
@@atlantah5496 "Unrealistic"
Halfway through and you've made some hilarious points 😅 great video, lovin it
You had well thought out points, Act Man. Good stuff! Always love your videos 'cause of the thought you put in
Let’s also acknowledge the fact that the IGN France article was trying to rewrite history by using Bayo and 2B as positive points of comparison.
Bayonetta and 2B were also met with massive amounts of “they’re too sexy” controversy upon the release of their respective games. It’s time that makes designs “iconic”.
I'm glad you pointed this out. People used to complain that Bayonetta was made to appeal to the male fantasy and fans would try to counter that by reminding everyone that Bayonetta's design was made by a woman.
Good point!!
Yeah that article was 100% gaslighting its readers, both of those characters were heavily scrutinised at launch.
Same as MGSV quiet if I'm correct
@@CyanRooper As a bisexual, I 'gaze' at all these characters all the time. I'm here for it. I wish there was more solidarity in supporting other lady designers and devs in a healthy way, honestly. But not that cringe stuff that demeans men. So many men are also supportive of women designers and artists, as well. There's no reason to exclude anyone that appreciates art.
Wait. This is not about CJ's Sex Appeal stat..
Welcome to San Andreas, I'm CJ from Grove Street
Land of the heinous, gangbangers and cold heat🔥
In Los Santos, neighbors get no sleep
Beefin' with anybody competing, even police
Let's all take a moment to remember that stat was almost entirely based on how expensive your clothes and car were.
Ballas! Driveby!
@@grayashes9621 For deepin' a green rag wit both feet
Blast wit a flag on strap, dats OG!
Noticing the bilgewater theme during the video was a surprise but a welcome one, great choice ActMan!
1st video i watch from you....immediately subscribed!
The hilarious part to me is that they reference things like 2B and Bayonetta in the exact same light until all of a sudden they flip the script when they realize no they're actually well developed characters who just happen to look conventionally attractive. We have articles from before both games were released of them doing the exact same thing they are doing now with stellar blade nothing changes apparently.
The problem has never been that characters are sexy. The problem is when they're objectified (commonly for the cringe male gaze).
@@Jormyyy "cringe male gaze". That's a really cringe way of admitting you are gay
@@Jormyyy I mean look at Greek Saga Kratos dude has no top running around shirtless and look at Arthur. Lara Croft and Samus Aran are considered two of the most badass characters in video game history. There is nothing wrong with having sexy characters. People of both genders love looking at attractive things there ain’t no problem with that. Maybe you should look up some female gamers playing games with attractive men and see how many of them gush over how attractive they are.
@Jayalen I'm literally straight lmao
@@JormyyyCloseted maybe but definitely not straight 😂
I love how all these people claim to be “feminists,” yet they really seem to hate the female anatomy.
They just oppose things men like
@@liarwithagun finally other with my logic lol they hate what men like if one day men say "oh shlt i like androids girls" the feminst would go and attack those men for that.
Real feminists don't. We really shouldnt be sourcing our arguments from Twitter of all places lol Those people are either nazis, or man hating so-called "feminists", it seems like haha
With each passing day I'm more inclined to believe that a lot of this stuff is being said and done to avoid upsetting trans people, and it's not actually about "women". Natural curves and feminine facial structure are "unrealistic beauty standards" if you need hormone therapy and surgery to create some approximation of them...
@liarwithagun a lot of them are men though. constantly throwing around words like "thot" and "simp".
genuinely amazing video
Love you buddy. Keep being incredibly nuanced and real.
I'm a woman and I've been gaming since I was 12 years old (26 now) and I've never had a problem with my girls in video games looking hot. Whenever I have a character creator available I try to make my character a mix of hot and "realistic". And I don't know if it's just me but I think I've seen more men than women crying about hot girls in video games.
If that's true, it would be hilarious.
SJWs*
Yep. It's called virtue signaling. Men are so desperate to not be seen as misogynist that they go to the extreme, not realizing that you can prove that you're not misogynistic simply by....not being misogynistic.
im a woman too and i try to make them as hot as possible during custom creation. i dont even care about unrealistic body standards. one piece bodies are my goal. if i cant customize it, then whatever. sorry girls but hot girls will ALWAYS sell. everyone loves hot women: gays, straight men, straight women, your mom, my dad. i think people put too much on media ruining mindsets and not enough on people letting media ruin their mindsets
Wait, crying in favor for or against hot girls?
The problem is, some people can't differentiate between fiction and reality.
Remember that scene in SEL? “Don’t confuse the internet with reality”. And it makes me think on how hate is abundant on the internet.
I think one of the problems is that some of these characters are based on real women, and attractive women make other women feel insecure if they haven't dealt with their own baggage. Some men in the industry that want to boink those women in turn, do sadly white knight to look good and agree with them. A lot of reasons for this, but I think it's become worse in recent years.
Another problem is that some people always want reality even in fiction.
Oh so like people on Twitter?
... Yes. People with psychosis, schizophrenia, and delusional thoughts exist. We should endeavour to help them deal with and recover from such things. And not cater to mental illness.
Too bad for that lady in the Fable trailer....she's a real person.
I personally really don't mind when characters are 'too' sexy in a video game as long as it's not in your face too much. That said, I think in this game it is in your face, WAY too much.
But I think that's also where the argument ends. You either like having the shaking booty in your face, or you don't.
Beauty standards are already insanely influenced by social media, way more than games ever would anyways.
This is why Kill la Kill is a goated anime, they went ahead and gave everyone equal fanservice, it was fucking glorious
they also gave the fanservice and stupid outfits a real purpose, what a legend indeed
ragyo kiryuin is the hottest character in the entire series
Ryuko, oh my fucking God. I’m so down bad for her.
@@winster32 same, Ryuko is the tomboy recipe perfected by a master chef. Peak character design
IRA GAMAGORI has entered the chat wearing nothing but his underpants.
Conventionally attractive protagonist: *exists*
Twitter: "thats illegal"
Female protagonist that doesn’t have Sydney Sweeney’s massive honkers: *exists*
Also Twitter: “Woke propaganda, the west has fallen”
@@Ravensbro04 Then again, it's because of the first example that we have the second to begin with. The difference bewteen the cause and the effect.
@@mekingtiger9095 Please elaborate further on that.
@@Ravensbro04😂
Yeah
This randomly came up, and I 100% agree with it. Let the ladies have their eye/fantasy candy. Less hate, more love.
Yeesss! I like sexy women as much as the next gal, but it feels like it's just us being sexualized. Yeah the men have big muscles but that's not enough, give them speedos to show off their stuff or belts around there chest and a nice ass or something.
Franz of Assis quote? in this topic?? ...epic my dude!
I love having one faction of people saying that having attractive people in video games is terrible, then another faction of people saying that “ugly” women in video games are propaganda.
What a perfectly balanced and desirable media ecosphere that will produce only positive and constructive results in media discourse… right?
LMAOOO
It's just culture war nonsense (that is deployed on both sides of the argument). Act Man completely nailed it. Getting mad over "hot" or "normal" looking video game characters is a giant waste of everyone's time. It's always going to exist. Look at what happened when Steam started to allow actual porn games.
If western AAA devs completely get rid of sexualization in video games (they won't), it will leave a very profitable market open that will inevitably get filled.
I have a theory as to why some women have a aversion to sexy women in games. Its involves aome evolutionary psychology, but i think it makes sense.
Men like sexy women because they like women. Duh. But they dont mind sexy men because they see those men as something to aspire to and improve towards, and for the most part, men can improve their looks and attractiveness. You many not be able to reach the ideal, but you can get closer to it.
Women on the other hand may have issues with sexy women because women dont really have any natural way to improve their looks beyond makeup. This makes them self conscious about their looks if they srent comfortable with them and a part of their brain comes to see the fictional characters as competition.
Its at least part of the reason.
@@graye2799women can improve their looks just as much as men can (besides getting jacked) its just that less women are autistically into looksmaxxing and instead go into shit like astrology
In my opinion
But please not ignore the fact that ugly characters are ugly for a reason. It's because executives really believe that beauty characters are moraly bad. ridiculous...
Honestly, the first choice that comes to mind for me is Tali from Mass Effect, you know, the girl that's literally completely covered up all the time in basically a hazmat suit. While it certainly is form fitting (those hips, tho), her main appeal to me is her personality. She's such a dork, and it's so adorable.
I was just gonna say this...Tali is best girl hands down and as you said those hips don't lie but what got me really into her was her personality as well...and that voice too ofc. Like I didn't even expect that I would be romancing her after I first finished ME1 she felt younger and *was* younger back then but BioWare did a great job showing how she matured in between the games without touching her dorky adorable personality and the rest is history for me lol
She was my choice as well ❤️
3:42 I WAS SAYING THE SAME SHIT!!!!! finally someone acknowledges this. I am a straight man and we need more sexualisation in the XY community
hard agree, not enough femboys
after all, boys too can be sexy!
Comment section of the gods.
Awesome as always.
THANK you for speaking common sense out loud. Particularly the point about body positivity and how it's more an issue with self-image and projecting that on everything around, forcing everyone to consume media that's just there to suit insecurities. I know when games/media is pandering to me and I hate it. Show me what the devs/creators originally intended, not what a bunch of loud, insecure people have demanded at the threat of cancellation.
we did with Abbey from LOU2 and where called bigots by those people you spoke of.......
@@derigel7662 Yeah but gender swapping race swapping to suit the activist "writing" it and NOT the fans. Media is not made for anyone specific or any group of peoples, it is made to for the sake of making garbage and only for Hollywood itself of keeping up "the Image" within its own community. Watch The Critical Drinker, BOTH of you need this so badly. I agree a lot of people were called bigots for making actual fair observations for a lot of media and movies. If called bigots for hating Sonic's Teeth, we got that sorted. Sexist for making the character female unfairly like with the doctor in doctor who. Don't change to dammed formula THAT HAS WORKED for so very long all to SUIT the individual asshole making this a reality. That is the butt of the jokes, the disgruntled "SJW" in place of writers in Hollywood. Then we are the ones called shitheads. Fk that retardation.
@@derigel7662 You do realize it goes both ways right? Developers have a right to design the character the way they want and fits their vision regardless of whether you find that character attractive or not.
@@Camilothegodfather So don't complain if female characters look very sexy and wear skimpy outfits. LMAO.
@@derigel7662that one was an obvious trap. Man, there was a ton of gaslighting involved in the production of that game, it's shameful. Kinda like the new Juliette, pure bait so they can counter with gaslighting
*people who complain about stellar blade don't actually care about the game*
*Just the character model itself*
Same can also be said for some "fans".
some of the fans are getting it for just for eve and not the gameplay , oof
@@acfan9384
*I mean more likely if people's interests were only for eve over the game*
*They'd just look at images of her or some videos*
*And not buy the game*
@@MartianManHunter2258 Yes? People tend to be interested in entertainment filled with attractive characters. That's the entire point. Those fans matter more than some random people that were never going to buy the game to begin with.
I'm playing Black Desert and FFXIV because I can turn myself into an attractive character.
I'm not playing New World because everyone looks like ass, and I can't stop myself from looking like ass. Simple as that.
@@arionell your view of entertainment is incredibly shallow.
But theres also sometimes the oposite problem, that when there is a non sexualised (Usually) female charachter. Some people start screaming "WOKE' and bitching about how devs want to make all female charachters ugly.
That Cartman clip and the lead up almost had me on the floor 🤣
Im all for these Games TheActingMale 😂.
Those articles have to be ragebait. No way people actually think like that
we can only hope
@@TheActMan Yeah
At least one was retracted because of how memeable it was
@@EpiCxWoundsx True
If only there was a bottom line to stupidity but journalists can make any standard lower lol
finally after years i smashed that sub button. video cracked me up it makes too much sense for these journalists lmfaoo
6:00 WHY HAVE I NEVER HEARD THAT LINE BEFORE!?! IM DYING LOL
My wife is not a supermodel and I dont look like Larry the lobster either. I think shes beautiful just the same. Just because I like attractive women in games doesn't mean I hold every woman I interact with to that standard. Its a fantasy. People need to grow up
Well said. It is a fantasy and it's ok for people to have those. The ONLY reason anyone has a problem with any of this is because it's a straight, male fantasy.
well said, after meeting marrying and building a family with my wife im just not attracted to other woman! now fictional woman...... well thats a different story lol!!!
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yeah I feel like that's the root cause of all these problems, people can't seperate reality and fiction.
The funniest thing is Stellar Blade is basically a Soulslike and we just had an amazingly hot fuckboi in Lies of P and NOBODY COMPLAINED.
I hate to be pedantic but Stellar Blade only has very light souls elements with loads of other action game influences mixed in
I swear the MC for Lies of P is just Timothee Chamalete
@the_articulated_artist young adults can't be attractive? Pretty weird take
@the_articulated_artist The weirdest take is that you don't know the age bracket for a young adult. Young adult is 18-21 or 24, some people's bracket is slightly different, but regardless the addition of the word "adult" means beyond a minor, young saying they are early in their adulthood
@the_articulated_artist ohhhh now he's a minor? They never even say how old he is, just that he has graduated High School. You're really reaching here.
You are on the right side of herstory.
I salute you Act Ma'am.
Did You Change The Thumbnail? Why Don't I See Diddy Kong Anymore
So objectiving women is problem... but twitch and onlyfans is not??
And like virtually all beauty, hair and clothing advertising, I mean you can literally be a model, an object for these products to be shown on you.
Dont act like they are not complaining about twitch and onlyfans lol, it makes the people that want to censor everything actually look right when people bring it up as a gotcha.
*A Wild Incel Has Appeared
@@Random_GuardsmanI see they usually only complain if they rememebr that “men are sexualizing her!” otherwise much of the time people like this will have no problem with Onlyfans and Twitch itself, till again they remember that men exist. Sometimes you do see the argument tho that those things only encourages sexualization more, but again, that’s usually more so seen as a problem with society or men, rather than it is women on twitch or OF.
No weirdly enough, it's somehow seen as empowerment. Makes no sense whatsoever.
Surprised swimsuit Tifa didn't feature in the video. That was incredible fan service
I so appreciate how balanced you made this discussion. Which is a rarity when it comes to video game discussion.
Recognizing that sex appeal can actually be a positive thing (also that so much of it is based on emotions not just physical appeal) for many different people and that devs treating it with maturity/fairness can make for better games.
18:53 Act Man going straight to the source!
Ain't no way the Act Man dropped THIS before a Red Dead Redemption 2 review LOL
May is the month of Red Dead Redemption content. Stay tuned...
@@TheActMan Can’t wait!! Keep up the awesome content💪🏻
@@TheActMan I look forward to it
On the topic of Baldur's Gate 3's attractive ass companions... Astarion. Yes, we all know he's BG3's poster pretty boy, a token sexy vampire, but what I find fascinating is that his character design really is very important to his actual character. Him being sexy is integral to his story and influences how he sees himself and how he assumes others see him, and its actually really sad at many points. I dunno, I just really enjoy character designs that tell a story
Great video
Well said, sir.
I think the fact is you just cant make everyone happy, and if you try, you just get a mediocre product that is loved by nobody. To quote a video i saw years ago "it's okay to not like things, but dont be a dick about it"
I feel QuantumTV should really tap into that after His Hissy Fit over Elden Ring
reminds me of Helldivers 2
I remember one Resident Evil game had "black zombies" and it was criticized that it "demonized" black people. But they NEVER said anything that EVERY single Resident Evil game had only white zombies. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm not even making this up. You can look it up.
They also did it with Left 4 Dead 2
What the fuck 😂 “Re4 is so racist!!!!’ Why do these Spanish people look and sound like Spanish people!?!?!
Yes, Resi 5 - set in Africa. Africa.
Where the hell are the white zombies supposed to come from?!
@@Arphemius are you kidding me. Capcom is so fucking racists dude. Why are Africans, African while speaking with an African accent 🤬
@@Arphemius South Africa?
Super well made video, I agree with a lot of the points you make! For me, seeing people that are physically fit and attractive is fuel I use to try and inspire me to better myself through taking care of myself and working out, all ways in which I can just be a healthier human being.
One point you did make that I did find a bit iffy was the one about there needing to be a 'reason' for a character to look 'ugly'. I think that as you said, the character's 'ugliness' can be used to make a point like the example of the nerd being thrust into the role of superhero, but I don't think it necessarily has to. The fact that people can just look like that because they are born with those features feels completely realistic to me, as in the case with Horizon or Fable. I do agree that the designs should be judged on the quality of the character design itself and whether they convey what the character is all about with the design, and the character's 'ugliness' may or may not play a factor in that. It would be weird if Bayonetta looked like the Fable protagonist, but for the role the Fable protagonist is trying to fill it didn't feel like it was an issue for me.
Nice video! Good comparisons and factual! (Didn't expect Rosiebellmoo to bring me here of all places)
Just keep it consistent in whatever franchise you're making. Don't uglify a traditionally sexy series or character and don't sexualize a traditionally non sexual series or character.
Yes this☝🏿
This is exactly the reason why Dead or Alive 6 never even popped off in ANY of the regions and the development was ceased only after few months.
Before the game was released, they specifically stated that they decided to switch their art focus away from sexy characters.
They doomed the game with one single tweet.
Agreed, for example, the fable trailer. Character designs in that franchise have always been purposely ugly because of it's setting. Anyone expecting a needlessly attractive character in that game are probably not fans of the series in the first place.
@@sirnoto5753 Fable used his own unique art style, but the new game uses conventional realism.
@@arionell DOA was pretty generic and meh to begin with. The only thing separating it from the rest of the fighting games was the sexiness.
But because they had brainrot, they didn't realize they could just expand the sexiness to the male characters as well to balance it out. But no-o-ooooh: Women need to be protected and treated like children...
Came for video, left with strange drive towards self-improvement
There are just so many idiots in the internet. I hate what they did to Stellar Blade and to other games that were all great.
I hope we can have a come back from this huge fall.
But at the end of the day, nothing is going to stop me from playing Stellar Blade.
Damn the serenity prayer hits hard 19:01
I’m tired of people shaming people for finding things attractive. You can’t force people to be attracted to certain body types. they like what they like.
*Can't. I normally don't do the whole 'correcting on youtube comments thing', but this seems like a typo that's actually pretty important for the message.
Honestly. That includes if they look like a minor
@@sadscientist9995 uh no
People are just entitled nowadays. They think they can control and demand people to dance to their tune. "How dare you have preferences and standards?!?!"
@@VanTheMan1099They’re not wrong. All attractions are not learned behaviors, they are inherent. When people “gain” attraction, that just means they realized their attraction after not knowing about it before. The “p-philia” falls in that category, same as the “z-philia”.
I laughed way too hard at the washing machine and cooking simulator joke 😂
"Eve body is unrealistic, oversexualized and puts women in danger." Coming from the body positivity "go head girl. It's fine being 340lbs at 5'2. Live your truth. You're beautiful" crowd. Guarantee eves curves will lead to less harm to women than the health issues your message will.
And to answer your final request it's Panam Palmer for me.
Not only that but it technically would be body shaming women who look like that character. Imagine folks pulling the oversexualization card when most women have Thicc thighs
The "sexy women in games put real women in danger" stuff is essentially the same as the violence in video games argument in the 90s, on for SA instead of violence.
@@graye2799 I'd expect this from strict hypocritical Christians or conservatives but there just reaching at this point with their mental gymnastics
SJW's in 2014: This game is sexist. Bayonetta is unrealistic because no real woman looks like
Gamers in 2024: This game is woke. Abby and Kay Vess are unrealistic because no real woman looks like
And then there's people like me who are tired are hearing about Stellar Blade because of the absolute brainrot on both sides of the fence
@@Danny-mp8dq only the latter one has more merit.
Act Man got me looking over my shoulder with this B-roll sheesh
Holy shot, did you just drop a “Munich’s odyssey” reference????
I need more oily men in my games.
You will get oily gender neutral homosapiens very soon.
I'm a straight man and I agree! just add more options. more options is always better.
just let everyone enjoy hot people. Add in toggleable settings like oily skin as just fun side content.
back in the day we had stuff like: zero G, big head, big hands, etc, why not have more stuff like that too. They're games, they are supposed to be fun!
Street Fighter has Zangief
Play SF4 then. Hakan is what you're looking for.
I hope you'll get what you hope for.. Or what you need :)
This whole conversation is summed up at 17:04 people need to stop looking outwards for their own happiness and satisfaction and work on themselves to be what makes them feel good
Truth
bro, you buying a new car? whats with all the ads XD love the video though
Everything in this video is so well said.
Honestly, yeah some girls in video games I find attractive like “Songbird” from “Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty” but overall, as long as the gameplay is still fun, idc which character is and isn’t attractive
Mannnnnnnn screw songbird. ***spoiler*** She got my girl killed. Yes I know in one ending but that's my cyberpunk 2077 Canon ending.
I actually didn't find her in particular attractive really. So just goes to show that this shit ends up being subjective anyway.
Bruh, Aurore castell from the same dlc
Songbird can rot after what she did to Alex. And yes I know it's in one ending but that's my Canon ending.
@@mix7893 exactly, beauty is subjective.
One thing that keeps getting ignored in the Stellar Blade issue is that it appeals to women too. Of course it's geared more to men but me and my female friends find it attractive as well. We're Asian and she represents our standard of beauty. It's more appealing and reflective of our pop culture than how Western media portray us. Do I feel bad I don't look like that? No, because I'm an adult who can differentiate fantasy from reality. I have my own identity and style; a look that suits me more and that I'm comfortable with. Doesn't mean I can't celebrate another beautiful woman, fictional or otherwise.
Thank you for being the voice of reason. I don't get why female characters have become the new political battlefield and I hate both extremes. There is space for everyone and I'm sure we'll all find a character to nut to.
PS: I literally went "aww thank you" when you said we look good without makeup ❤
You are right. I have heard multiple times from girls how they like and enjoy attractive characters as well, and btw there are studies that suggest that as well, and i also think that more women who play games should voice their opinions it would make things more transparent. But i never heard anyone reminding people about this important and obvious fact, that it's a Korean game and Korean culture and it doesn't have to reflect any of the Western bs. I feel like there's an "Americans think there's no world outside US" meme somewhere in here. "Western bs" started to creep in into Japanese mainstream culture and it's not a pretty sight. I can only hope that Koreans and Chinese will gatekeep better, there's a lot of beauty in unique and distinct cultures (and btw that's how diversity they claim they value so much looks and works) and it would be a shame to loose it to a gray androgynous swamp that Western culture has largely become.
I think you've put that perfectly.
Let's face it, westerners (but mostly Americans) can't "differentiate fantasy from reality" and that's what causes 90% of these kinds of debates.
@@no2war274 Ooh, trust me. Koreans are waaay better at gatekeeping this kind of stuff than the Japanese. Being ousted as a feminist there is a death sentence to one's carrer. The dynamics of the "cancel culture" are very much reversed compared to the West.
@@mekingtiger9095 hmm, you talking positively about gatekeeping feminism doesn’t give me high hopes for that video you recommended I watch
@@the_articulated_artist It's a good and inspiring watch, though. Try watching it regardless of *my* previous arguments. I just want *your* opinion. Whether it is negative or positive.
Excellent !
kojima was ahead of his time adding swimsuit outfits for both men and women in mgsv
on brand for Kojima, dude's Mozart
Based kojima putting his male protagonists in a skintight suit and be super buff
Truly ahead of his time