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Eboni K. Williams Defends Her Comments On Black Women's Market Value, Fertility Challenges + More
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KS was right and said the same thing as Eboni. This also proves that “tone” was not the problem, the inability to acknowledge hard truth is
EXACTLY. They tried to tell Kevin his message wasn't getting across because he was calling them fat..Here a fellow woman is saying it as intelligent and from experience as anyone can and even a so called educated black woman wont accept it.
And Eboni literally used some of KS talking points. She even acknowledged in one of her interviews that she agreed with some of KS talking points.
@@War22652Women were listening to Kevin. We all just paid attention to the negative feedback and bad publicity. I remember tuning into Kevin's show and saw 20k people watching live on a regular basis. He definitely had the ear of women. Most that agreed with him just weren't vocal.
@@mykb8069anyone with common sense agrees with Kevin samuels.
It also appears that black women are the only women that go to college and make money in the uSA. I hope that shows on the Forbes list and ceos of fortune 500
As a 46-year-old woman, I agree with everything Eboni said 100%. She speaks from experience as a successful black woman who is 40 and single. I'm married with three children, but I have to acknowledge that I prioritized my fertility because I knew I had specific reproductive issues. My career was temporarily put on hold, but now I have the husband and children of my dreams, and my career is going exceptionally well. I would have had this success in my business earlier, but I was not willing to miss out on the family of my dreams.
Thank you for sharing that. My mom and dad used to say, you can have it all but just not all at the same time.
@@nlm3223 I say the exact same thing to my kids. "You can have it all but not all at the same time"
Good for you. You're an anomaly, but you did it right!
Well done!!
You’re smart.
Eboni is an archetype of a Black woman that isn't promoted in the public. She is very relatable to a lot of Black women who are not in the spotlight but she will trigger Black women who can't relate to her. Those who can't relate to her will always claim "she's talking down to us" or "she think she's better" etc... The truth is she loves Black women, publicly in a way that we're not used to seeing. But she loves her sisters and that is why she is willing to put her business out here and take the heat in the service of others.
Exactly!! Black women better stop following trash like Sexxy Red and start listening to women like Eboni. I'm 32 and married and agree with her 100%
Do you think that some of those black women who think Eboni is talking down to them also think the same about some of the music that they listen to that seems to that seems to talk down to them in every other line? "broke b******", "ugly", etc... or do you think that that stuff doesn't apply to them?
@@focused313 No, I think the media has done a good job conditioning people to accept music like that as harmless. That is what I mean when I say Eboni is an unexpected archetype that many don't relate to. Today, I think a lot of young women would think the Claire Huxtable character is corny. However there are also a lot of young women who want to emulate that character, yet you don't see the CH type in the mainstream representation of Black woman culture in the US. People have a hard time hearing and accepting ideas that are not pervasive in their environment.
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I got married at the age of 25 newly graduated from university. Had kids and focused on my kids. Now I am 35 pursuing my career working from home and still putting my family first. Thanks to my husband I don’t need to do life alone and he supports me immensely. Honestly life is hard and expensive to be alone 😂😂
It sure is
Im so happy for your happy life🥰
IDK how folks making it lol
@@ajlegend321Im single and work 3 jobs and have no desire to be bothered with a man or someone in my house. So I will gladly continue working 3 jobs.
Eboni is 100% correct and Lauren is taking it too personal to have the conversation for the greater good.
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Facts
I agree with everything she has said even her criticism about men. Ebonie is an exceptional woman so it will be pretty difficult for her to find a guy on a similar level as her. This is just reality and people need to stop acting like her struggle is similar to their own.
I know it is solely for the women but I must say I agree with both sisters! I think the lady is trying to express that messengers such as Ms. Ebony are powerful & have a responsibility to prep the message in a manner to where it could be received by the masses of listeners! If someone have information and concerns for the masses of black women, it should be broken down, taught and express in the best coaching way possible! I’m a Parent and life coach and there is always a risk of not breaking through with important lessons if I come across aggressive or not clear! She definitely was clear but more vulnerability I believe she could gravitate to more of the masses of women. This is crucial and critical enlightenment.. ❤ A father raising 4 women this can easily become their reality
@@bradleyjames1379it’s a man for every woman. It’s no person on this earth that’s too bright for another human being.
I got married at 26 and intentionally decided to start trying for kids at 30.
It took a number of IVF tries , surgeries , losses etc to finally become a mom at 36.
God is great and made it feasible for my husband and myself to become parents …
I would definitely advise anyone wanting kids to start earlier -
Blessings and love to everyone ❤
Everyone is different everyone’s body is different everyone’s life is different
@@SE-gs6gdexactly ! I am just sharing my experience ….
To each her own , but challenges conceiving are real and sometimes hearing other people’s experiences provides more knowledge .
Wishing everyone the best in whatever they choose to achieve in life .
@@andicksofulthank you !!!!!
i am surprise that your husband did not want kids immediately. I can't see me marrying a woman at 26 then waiting for geriatric pregnancy to set in before trying to have kids. I would have to kick her to the curb and find a woman who wants lots of kids early.
@@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kpwell, that is why he is my husband.
Now we have a happy, healthy son & multiple properties to our name and have been very fortunate to travel to so many countries.
God has been amazing to us and our journey is uniquely ours ❤️
Do whatever works for you sir !
Have a great life.
Only young, inexperienced, and/or blind women are fighting this. Eboni is spot on trying to shine the light for those walking in mental darkness to the reality of time. The clock is ticking literally and figuratively and there are windows of opportunity that do not last forever. Lauren sounds so immature challenging the wisdom coming to elevate her.
This latest version of EKW is an antithesis of her fairly recent commentary. It's frankly disgusting to see BWs in this state.
As a friend to a couple who had a wildly different age marriage (she was 20 and he was close to 60) the clock ticks for the man too. I'm talking biological.
@@derekofbaltimoresmh… Did you not see Robert De Niro and Al Pacino make babies? SMH
@@shawn_and_one i mean they have mental development problems
My friends have two kids and both are stunted
@@elastronatathe wall is undefeated.
As a 32 year old black woman with two kids I completely agree. I am an engineer and put off some career moves and getting my masters degree to have my two beautiful kids. I now have a 6 and 2 year old and Ebony here is putting us on game. As soon as I finished with my engineering degree I went and got me that Mrs title now getting the MSc and it was well worth it. Women we must put our fertility into consideration because I see many of my beautiful black sister MD and lawyers now with all the degree struggling to get that Mrs title and these are women that I know are by far better looking that me. They out here talking about the dating pool toxic while I snagged myself a fine 6ft Engineer.
Facts! My husband is blue collar and literally takes care of all the bills, I work from home and take care of the house. Before I met him I wouldn't be able to just have the leisure that I have now. Eboni is right I'm so glad I didn't wait til I was 40+ like I see alot of be doing because now they are looking for a husband and complaining about the dating pool but many of them ignored the guys who would've been husband material, everything was about flexing for Twitter, red bottoms, going on dates for free meals, etc instead of getting in a serious relationship with a provider type of man, i also think too many are too focused on a man's clothes and looks, meaning they like these hustler types of dudes who only care about designer and jordans, u gotta focus on the guys who are hard workers and would be providers, and do it in your 20s, early 30s at the latest, there's more i could say but Eboni is right💯
@@ashtonwilson9159Lol it doesn't sound like Ms Engineer is gonna go that far.....shes not dating the bus driver and damn sure no one under 6ft lol. But you are straight on point.
Tell em.
Sad that men continually get distilled down to height and income. These are the “bragging points” they use when talking about their man. No mention of character… who he actually IS… just that he’s tall and has a good job. Glad you came up, sis
@@thebxsavagethat part
Lauren was focused more on the delivery than the message. I’m glad she understood that her emotions overshadowed her ability to fully understand the message
Its not the delivery, its the complete message. 12:04
I agree her argument was not valid felt based of emotion.
Did she finally understand it though? Even at end I feel like she didn't "get" it. She's still looking at it from an emotional standpoint.
@@YuhasLol nope she did not
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This is for Lauren, and all other women, especially our women(black women). Start listening instead of immediately reacting to the slightest thing you perceive as negative. I grew up with women all around me in my family and I kept seeing the kinda behavior that you see from Lauren. Wanting to be heard but don’t wanna hear what’s real. It’s okay to receive constructive criticism. Eboni was 100% honest and truthful with what she was saying. You might not like that she was the one to say it, but it should come from someone like Eboni. Listen because her life experiences are valuable. You can’t start off a conversation by saying you don’t want to hear what she had to say just because you didn’t like what she said or how she said something at the beginning of the conversation. That’s counterintuitive to learning from a woman that clearly is speaking from experience.
The “speaking down on others” or “thinking you’re better” DRAINS ME!!! Confidence is hated. Real confidence! Eboni is unbothered and unapologetic, truly! And she owns the spaces she’s in! Black women are bothered by that due to insecurities within themselves! Once again, Lauren, grown up!!
From what I am hearing, the conversation is very much meant for Lauren because she is in denial and therefor sits among the many women who need to hear the message.
She seems to be in denial about the s3xual market power-shift that occurs as we age past 30, as well as the fact that a marriage-minded woman needs to listen to what men think and value.
She believes older women can compete with younger women, and it just isn’t true. Can older women be attractive to men? Absolutely. But even men know their older selves cannot compete either their younger selves physically. I looked my best at age 28!
I’ll never look that good again. Can I still look good? Yes. Can I still look better than most men my age as I grow older? That is absolutely possible.
Still, my older self cannot compete with my younger self. I can equalize things by accumulating resources, performing well in the workplace, staying in shape, looking as young and fit as possible, staying on top of my fashion game, and looking in the right places for the right women with the right mindset.
Men understand this, which is partly why we gain that power over time. We accept facts and know where to concentrate our efforts because we think strategically.
Women like Lauren don’t think that way because they are not inclined to deal in facts, data/statistics, harsh realities, and the like. They deal in feelings and emotion.
Thats the trap!
Griping about “message delivery” or “packaging” is just Lauren’s excuse to reject the entire message, and that is the behavior of a child, not a rational adult.
I may not like the way someone delivers a message, but if they’re spitting facts there’s nothing I can do but make a choice to accept the facts or ignore them at my own peril.
What I won’t do is go fragile and cloak a dispute on a false narrative to make myself feel better.
Lauren disagrees with the facts, but she’s cloaking her disagreement in some phony narrative about delivery. If she agreed with the message and was willing to accept it, she wouldn’t be debating Eboni, she would instead be repackaging it and delivering it herself on her own terms. Instead, Lauren wants to make Eboni change her position so that she can feel better. Lauren’s position is not about facts, it’s about feelings.
Peep game. She doesn’t like the facts!
Lauren is an example of a woman who may want to invest in some cats or a dog, because she is likely to spend her golden years ALONE.
She can scream about delivery and packaging all she wants to, but i also heard her try to convince Eboni that she is incorrect about dwindling marriage prospects over time.
THAT, people, is a woman in denial.
As a married black woman with 10 children, she is telling the truth. Marriage is not easy. I will say there is so much hatred within the black community. We rather tear each other down than build each other up. Eboni spoke facts.
Dear Black People,
Holding another Black person accountable isn't a form of hate, jealousy, putting on blast, wrongdoing, etc. It's actually a form of love to help one self correct and mature. We can't get better, as a people, if we can never hold each other accountable.
Thanks,
A black person
Love this!
Facts
When you blame all black people on lame-ass fools, yes it is hate.
Signed,
Another Black Person
@@yourmedicalupdatepodcast7256 Damn why you gotta be like that 😂🤣
Make your sure accountable as well you can’t admonish ppl when you don’t want be rebuked in the same sentence.
I'm a 30 year old single black woman and I understood what Eboni K is saying and I appreciate it! I feel like Lauren isn't listening.
I'm a black man with a 5 year old daughter I UNDERSTAND ITS NOT FOR ME but I do want my daughter to be a strong black woman a get a education and make a name for herself. Also want her to be understanding and look for a good man as well but she do have her mother and other black woman in her life she got hurt in the correct way.
She never listen. Thts why I can't rock with her 🤦🏾♂️
Yes,she was taking a broad message personally and getting emotional. I'm glad Eboni schooled her on not being the time, manner, and delivery police.She stopped listening because she didnt like what she heard 🤦🏽♀️ Then proceeded to call her the opps based on her choice to not listen 🙄They are not using their comprehension skills to retain valuable information whether it's useful to them or not and that is the issue. Especially coming from a so-called grown 30+ woman who knows so much about herself and at her prime than ever before. Baby girl, take notes 📝 😉🤗
This is proven fact that women don’t want to receive the message. No matter if it’s from a man, Kevin Samuels, or another woman. You can’t tell a woman, you have to let them live through it
lol like what was wrong with what she said? like she didnt say anything wrong lol ppl just mad for sake of it.
Commenting to say, thanks Ebony. My mother taught me to fear men, until a few years ago when she basically called me an old maid and demanded a marriage and grand babies. No in between. No advice on how to switch from fearing to seeking? M’am thanks for guiding the girls. Because like you, I followed the model of working to be self sufficient, still on that journey, and also learning to start coming out of my armour of male repellent lol. It’s a confusing message. Mentally, and physically I struggle to overcome it every day.
Identifying and acknowledging the problem is fundamental, so you're on your way. Develop a deeper relationship with your emotional and psychological inner child, rewind the film of your mother's conditioning, and start editing out those parts that are inimical to your goal of becoming a wife and a mother. Visualize yourself and manifest your desired reality, and don't let anyone dissuade you.
Good luck, and may every blessing attend you. ✌🏿 🙏🏿
@@thegrandoti00 Beautifully said
I think wmn should understand how a man feels having to deal with a this......they just go younger. And its sad asf becuase we get dissed when they speak on this. its not just a convo for ladies. THis young womn is the prime example. She thinks when she gets to some high paying job she will then be on than mans levels n they are meeting as equals... if thats the case choose a class mate
Congratulations for breaking free of your mother's D-eye-K programming
@@Qleverettonly a simp views a woman as his equal, regardless of her income or education.
Let's normalize this kind of convo between young and older black women! Lauren and Eboni, I'm proud of y'all for doing this publicly.
@@JustADude908 let's normalize not having lazy RUclips names like yours bro.
This is the PERFECT example of "Truth Hurts." Eboni is 10000% correct. I'm not even an EK fan, but I am in her demographic (age, race, education), and everything she said is factual.
The Japanese call an unmarried woman over 30 a makeinu, a dog that has lost the fight. Eboni is saying it in a much nicer way!
@@lg206wow
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u dont have a man also i assume
@@lg206 The place where I could see Ms. Williams being correct is in wanting to be married and making it a goal, but her whole approach to the project of marriage in the black community is completely bunk.
I love how Eboni let her talk and then explained thoroughly what she said and meant … she was very specific and the young lady had an emotional response and Eboni handled it perfectly … the TMZ Lady thought she was prepared but she forget Eboni is a Lawyer by profession
I said it yesterday. She said she was ready but those young girls can’t even process their thoughts completely. They just want to pop off.
I am not sure how she behaves on reality T.V. but I like Eboni's assertiveness and how she doesn't coddle people with her takes. Assertive women are better to deal with because they know what they want and avoid games for the most part.
She’s just loud and wrong like a lot of black women unfortunately. That’s why she kept trying to deflect and pretend she was speaking for all women. As I move through life I am starting to realize that this mentality is the real reason we aren’t afforded the same opportunities as our peers of other races. It’s honestly very embarrassing to say 😢
@@bradleyjames1379this! I love no nonsense women too. And you can tell she’s a sweet person, just over the bs. I can relate lol
@@dinkyboss
It's just less stressful in general.
Eboni may have lost some listeners but she just gained one. Thank you for laying it out so plainly and clearly. You are appreciated!
I wish Lauren would understand that a woman’s greatest power is silence primary to observation without evaluation. Ms. Eboni is very wise and highly educated but also open to mentoring and guiding…… the best thing you can do is listen and take notes when you’re in a room with intellectuals that possess the experience Ms. Eboni has ❤ ……. People in my generation need to learn when to be quiet instead of being offended and listening to respond. I am successful because I listened to the amazing women that came before me ❤ Lauren should do the same
Eboni K is speaking 1000% facts!!!!! I was married at 21 and I got so much flack from my family and friends. As a black woman, I felt me getting married at 21 was a curse by how people responded to my decision. Now that I am over 40, still married and have 3 kids now people look at me as blessed. It’s so interesting! I now have a soon to be 20 year old daughter in college and right before she left my cousin and I told her the exact same thing that Eboni just said.
Glad to hear you have a successful nuclear family. Wish more families can be that way.
Well said EBONY...
God bless ya
Mr samuels said this exact thing years ago. This specific message. Word for word….
And you have time to have a fulfilling career if you'd like
31, naive, argumentative, and unwise. 40, has lived a bit and is trying to reach a hand back to help up other women. Thank you Ebony! 🙂
10 years from now Lauren is going to kick herself in the ass for not listening. The younger girls want to be delusional.
Eboni is learning. A few months ago, she was just as naive and argumentative.
Lauren has an issue with listening in general. She took it personal so her comprehension and understanding declined even further.
@@qb9937 Yes, she's not emotionally mature enough (which is not an age thing) to do conversations like this. You have to be able to separate the words from yourself. Hope she grows. 🙏🏾
women don't normally mature until 50. at age 30, 90% of eggs are gone from most women and black women STILL pursue career overa a family. so sad. that "skrong" "Independent" "don't need no man" "boss babe" mentality has destroyed black families. this 31 year old child will learn later.
at 31, what man wants a wife at 31 when he can get a 25 year old who is fertile, less bodies, more willing to follow his lead. black women are so lost.\
I have young female cousins suffering now. One makes 100k+, 27 years old, nice big house... no good man. had some feminine man 2 years ago. he is gone now and been replaced with 2 dogs. hahahahahah
Currently at 14mins in. As a 28 year young, relatively successful and self made African man, I can say with confidence- Eboni is not telling a single lie.
Now you’re allowed to be upset by her message, you’re allowed to be offended. You’re allowed to, with your lived experiences, disagree. These things are fine - but listen and consider, she is trying to put you on. Don’t close yourself to good advice.
Are you married, young man? Ebony's point would require that YOU be married to a young lady your age or younger.
That was KS three years ago to women and they didn't care.
@@jamiesiloma7664he was not the first to say this. Women said it wayyyy before him. Finding your husband in college is not a new phenomenon. 🤷🏿♀️
@@naychagirl2389he isn't held to the same standard. He Can be 50 years old and do it the same way. Finding a woman at fertile age will never be an issue for a man with means.
@@postadaking634 sorry, what’s that in response to. What you said about a man with means is totally true. Not sure about the other comments.
This is a rich conversation. It’s so needed. ❤
As a 43 year old woman, I think Lauren should revisit this conversation in 10 years. I’m sure her opinion will change.
Hell, I want to revisit this conversation in ten years. I want a ten year follow up.
Right. She’s not telling the whole truth.
❤Yes, 41 and a surgeon. I approve this message❤
So why are there so many single bm who aren’t married regardless of age?
Exactly, she can't really understand from where she is.
K.S said the same thing Eboni is saying. They said it's his tone, they said it's his delivery, they said he hates women etc. This is proof that all that is B.S. The problem is the TRUTH. It's hurts so bad, they blame the messenger. Blame yourself for not loving the truth enough.
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Big Facts
I wrote the same. They vilified that man for saying the same things eboni is saying but they love her for it
I agree with Eboni this is real talk!!! I’m 60 years old and the pool of driven, educated black men gets smaller. Time flies and having time to engage is also less available. The demands on our time can be overwhelming.
That's not true because the majority of high earning black men are in your age group, and the pool is small mainly due to these men being married with grandchildren in their 60's. Also, they're not driven, because they have the wealth already, and in autopilot, they were driven from ages 30 to 50. Also, the gap between educated black men and women is now a mere 4%, on average black men still earn more than black women even with less education, more black men are married than black women, and black men have less children than black women with 54% of black men being single and childless, blank men own the majority of black owned businesses, and black men are the fastest growing group of millionaires.
The pool is smaller because there are always younger more beautiful women coming of age every year.
Eboni is making a very valid point. I wish that I was provided with that advice when I was in college, as I would have paid more attention to the men that I dated. College will be the largest pool of men that will be available to you during your entire life! That is a very true and powerful point. That pool definitely gets smaller as you age. Not only does the pool decreases as you age, but so does the quality of the pool.
It's not college campus that's her pool. The whole world of men is. Because age 18 to 28 she's young and beautiful and fertile.
@@ConsidertheCrows: Lauren isn’t very bright, imo.
Eboni K Williams ladies & gentlemen 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 She spoke with grace and elegance to get her point across 💯
@porter9494 When you were in your mid 20s, who was on your radar? And how did it work out? I'm assuming that you were dating in your age range ready to help a man your age build. Am I right or wrong?
One day, we have to have a conversation about how people work really hard to misunderstand things that they find uncomfortable.
Big facts
Soooo hard lol. It would take a lot less effort to simply get comfortable 💅 🤷🏾♀️
THIS comment deserves more likes!! 👏🏾
That's cognitive dissonance at its best
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What is CRAZY is KS said the same thing for 3 years on the internet. Within a week of Eboni saying it now it’s valid. And the breakfast club is all willing to listen.
They even brought him up, and Eboni politely said to let the dead rest in peace.
It's in the delivery, and she's a black woman speaking on other black women.
Until the sisterhood, mothers and aunts tells them it will not be received.
@@samuelwilliams7331They will just Deflect and Call them a Pick-Me Mammy just like they already do with Chez Charde, The Crimson Cure, and Kendra G, you can't tell these Women anything lol
I just think alot of us just got caught up in the sauce of “getting the bag” getting attention. Social media is destroying us all.
This is why these conversations are important. I’m 32 and I sat here listening and all I heard was this young girl taking it personal and missing the point trying to prove herself to the experience in the room
"missing the point trying to prove herself to the EXPERIENCE in the room". This is sooooo true. She thought she was at a level that she is not even close too. This is why she was missing the point..... she want that far along (as she thought).
@@AppliedPressure493 right like I think if they had Jess or Claudia on that discussion it would have been a different conversation. It was an opportunity and she missed the mark
Yes! And she’s also not so young. Aside from her being articulate and composed, how is she different from my 3 yo child having a tantrum when I tell her what she must do?
From what I am hearing, the conversation is very much meant for Lauren because she is in denial and therefor sits among the many women who need to hear the message.
She seems to be in denial about the s3xual market power-shift that occurs as we age past 30, as well as the fact that a marriage-minded woman needs to listen to what men think and value.
She believes older women can compete with younger women, and it just isn’t true. Can older women be attractive to men? Absolutely. But even men know their older selves cannot compete either their younger selves physically. I looked my best at age 28!
I’ll never look that good again. Can I still look good? Yes. Can I still look better than most men my age as I grow older? That is absolutely possible.
Still, my older self cannot compete with my younger self. I can equalize things by accumulating resources, performing well in the workplace, staying in shape, looking as young and fit as possible, staying on top of my fashion game, and looking in the right places for the right women with the right mindset.
Men understand this, which is partly why we gain that power over time. We accept facts and know where to concentrate our efforts because we think strategically.
Women like Lauren don’t think that way because they are not inclined to deal in facts, data/statistics, harsh realities, and the like. They deal in feelings and emotion.
Thats the trap!
Griping about “message delivery” or “packaging” is just Lauren’s excuse to reject the entire message, and that is the behavior of a child, not a rational adult.
I may not like the way someone delivers a message, but if they’re spitting facts there’s nothing I can do but make a choice to accept the facts or ignore them at my own peril.
What I won’t do is go fragile and cloak a dispute on a false narrative to make myself feel better.
Lauren disagrees with the facts, but she’s cloaking her disagreement in some phony narrative about delivery. If she agreed with the message and was willing to accept it, she wouldn’t be debating Eboni, she would instead be repackaging it and delivering it herself on her own terms. Instead, Lauren wants to make Eboni change her position so that she can feel better. Lauren’s position is not about facts, it’s about feelings.
Peep game. She doesn’t like the facts!
Lauren is an example of a woman who may want to invest in some cats or a dog, because she is likely to spend her golden years ALONE.
She can scream about delivery and packaging all she wants to, but i also heard her try to convince Eboni that she is incorrect about dwindling marriage prospects over time.
THAT, people, is a woman in denial.
@@rebeccabisangwa7000: THIS! 😎👏🏾 She rejects facts because she doesn’t like those facts. Only a child does that.
I completely agree with Eboni. My retired, educated 80 year old neighbor told me to have this conversation with my daughters.
My older sister told me this when I was in college...
Gravity is undefeated
@@zetzeeful Did you take what your sister said to you to heart?
Your neighbour is one point my love and respect to her
@@zetzeeful. My mother told me this in college. I feel bad for women that have no one telling them truths.
Eboni is doing what Kevin Samuels advocated for: "black women should help advice their younger ones on the potential pitfalls of some of their choices, especially when it comes to the dating scene"
Love KS sadly I didn't discover him until after his death. But he is Awesome and Funny
She agrees with everything Eboni said her feelings were just in the way. 📝
I remember thinking in my late 20's and very early 30's like Lauren. In my mid 30's, I looked around and the men that were suitable and marriage minded were primarily married. And the suitable ones left were being fought over by dozens of women. Ebony is right, because of the graciousness of hindsight.
She’s right but why do bw have to go through so much to find a suitable mate, yet other races are getting married all the time? Some of them were able to get married successfully the second time. Y’all need to look at the source of the problem and figure out why this is
@@oncode7735 systematic incarceration. We lose a greater percentage to the industrial prison complex. That's why there's so many more women that make it to college. It's easier for young black men to find themselves in trouble, unfortunately.
I don’t think she can be any clearer with her messages. This is a gem 💎for the younger generation.
I am a college educated married Black man I can say Eboni is speaking 100% truth. To the 31 year old female, sorry but 95% of men, of all races would drop you for a 25 or 23 year old woman. You may not like hearing it but its the truth
Boom!
Black men aren’t the prize contrary to what the media is trying to push.
You know, this is a very relevant conversation which I hope will move to center space in women’s conferences. I appreciate the courage and intelligence in this convo. Keep the mic on and speak your truth sisters.
The balls it takes to tackle this issue is massive. Ebony is truely a strong BW for risking so much hate. But young women need to be taught these things
Kevin Samuels 😮
@@HiHello-wz6bxThey acting like they don't know. 😂😅😅😢
What about the men and women who don’t go to college. She’s speaking to a very specific group of women and men. This is not generalizable
Unfortunately, young women are often thankless of the pearls we toss their way.
She’s a hard hearted woman. This is why she is alone.
Part of the problem with some of us is we listen to respond. Everything Ebony is saying is SPOT ON, whether we agree or not. It’s not about how you prefer the gems are dropped, it’s about the gems! Life doesn’t care about your sensitivities 🤷🏾♀️… I say this as a 39 year old black woman…
La Lupupa stays looking fresh. You look 28 ish .
@@PHlophe you are too kind… thank you 😅
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Another 39 yr old agreeing😊
Yeah, us guys been saying this for a lil min now.
Eboni is highly educated, beautiful, and well spoken. People will always take her delivery as her looking down on others because of their insecurities and mediociricy. Love her.
Lol She is actually the insecure one because the men who she financially desires don't want her back, so she speaks down on everyone.
Agree with Eboni 1000%.
I am a 36-year old, black female lawyer with my own successful law firm. I was was taught to focus on my education, but I always wanted the traditional marriage and nuclear family. Was engage 3x before getting married at the age of 31. Never ever questioned whether I’d be able to have children. Still have not conceived any children and it’s the most heartbreaking thing in my life.
I wish I could go back 10 years, and I would have made it my priority as much as I did getting my education and career on track.
Stay encourage sister. I had my first baby at 40. He is one now
Don’t give up….I had my second child at 43
First child is 26 years old. Surprise by pregnancy. Dr said my body was health so never give up.
Just look into adoption.
3 engagements? What happened
@@aguy9071
She probably has a hot mouth like Eboni. Plus college is a left leaning Marxist commie cesspool with a lesbian indoctrination. You can’t tell chicks with a basket weaving liberal arts degree a damn thing.
I’m a 37 year old women and I wish I would have heard this information 10 years ago!! I had bought into everything that Lauren seems to have bought into so I get why she feels that way, but the reality is much different. I’m glad younger women are hearing this now!!
Men need women and women need guidance
@@pipedreamism1men never needed women. Men need to focus getting closer to God. That’s how a man obtain all the riches on this earth.
You're not suppose to use God to obtain all the riches on this earth. You're suppose to be genuinely surrendered to him and get all the blessing as a by product of doing what you're supposed to do.
Kevin Samuels has been saying the same thing for years, and many women have called him a misogynist. Remember that men are logical beings who reason with data. Eboni says this because she now sees the effects on herself.
Black vvomen have heard black men says this for years,y'all just hard headed and want to do what y'all want to do. Kevin Samuels said all of this, literally every word from 2019 to 2022, but because y'all hate black men, y'all absolutely refuse to listen to a black man.
Lauren was not emotionally ready to receive this message. You should never shut down and stop listening. Eboni is speaking on a higher level of family and social economic status. Who you choose as a partner is very important to your finances and status. Women need to learn to stop being with men just because we “love” them.
The take away from this is, you cannot allow your emotions to supersede your intelligence. There are times, when a message needs to be delivered in a blunt direct way as opposed to worrying about how it’s going to be perceived once the messages is conveyed. Yes, there are a lot of triggers for black women, but in this day and age, it is time for self reflection, and sometimes you just need to listen. You may not agree with it all and to be perfectly frank, it all depends on where you are at in your life sometimes a message will not resonate with you until 10 years later. In my personal opinion you don’t know life until you are 40 and above. So 20s and 30s don’t really count except that’s the years that you will make the mistakes . But I do hope that all black women were listening to what she said about black men or just men in general. You better find out what it is that they are looking for and decide quickly if that is the route that you want to go. Men are always looking for the woman who is an accommodating and makes them feel like they are always right. I agree with everything that Ebony stated. Because I’ve experienced it and I’ve witnessed it . Get out of your feelings and receive the message. Don’t pick and choose what you want to listen to.
That's how the woman's mind works. That's why she needs the man.
From what I am hearing, the conversation is very much meant for Lauren because she is in denial and therefor sits among the many women who need to hear the message.
She seems to be in denial about the s3xual market power-shift that occurs as we age past 30, as well as the fact that a marriage-minded woman needs to listen to what men think and value.
She believes older women can compete with younger women, and it just isn’t true. Can older women be attractive to men? Absolutely. But even men know their older selves cannot compete either their younger selves physically. I looked my best at age 28!
I’ll never look that good again. Can I still look good? Yes. Can I still look better than most men my age as I grow older? That is absolutely possible.
Still, my older self cannot compete with my younger self. I can equalize things by accumulating resources, performing well in the workplace, staying in shape, looking as young and fit as possible, staying on top of my fashion game, and looking in the right places for the right women with the right mindset.
Men understand this, which is partly why we gain that power over time. We accept facts and know where to concentrate our efforts because we think strategically.
Women like Lauren don’t think that way because they are not inclined to deal in facts, data/statistics, harsh realities, and the like. They deal in feelings and emotion.
Thats the trap!
Griping about “message delivery” or “packaging” is just Lauren’s excuse to reject the entire message, and that is the behavior of a child, not a rational adult.
I may not like the way someone delivers a message, but if they’re spitting facts there’s nothing I can do but make a choice to accept the facts or ignore them at my own peril.
What I won’t do is go fragile and cloak a dispute on a false narrative to make myself feel better.
Lauren disagrees with the facts, but she’s cloaking her disagreement in some phony narrative about delivery. If she agreed with the message and was willing to accept it, she wouldn’t be debating Eboni, she would instead be repackaging it and delivering it herself on her own terms. Instead, Lauren wants to make Eboni change her position so that she can feel better. Lauren’s position is not about facts, it’s about feelings.
Peep game. She doesn’t like the facts!
Lauren is an example of a woman who may want to invest in some cats or a dog, because she is likely to spend her golden years ALONE.
She can scream about delivery and packaging all she wants to, but i also heard her try to convince Eboni that she is incorrect about dwindling marriage prospects over time.
THAT, people, is a woman in denial.
It seems like no matter what she says, people get mad. Everything she said made perfect sense.
Exactly
Just like when Kevin Samuels said it the first time lol
@@coldtruth17that part!!!
Eboni advise if foolish, even if you get married right out of college before 25, what stopping that man from divorcing you? if he treats you like crap and you have to divorce, then you back to being old and single.
@@Grendygirlyou expose your emotional state with comments like this.
Eboni was spot on! I'm sick of this sensitive generation. If the message isn't for you, keep it moving!
Which sensitive generation? Eboni is a millennial and was acting just like Lauren 10 years ago. Gen X women a little older than Eboni are extremely sensitive to this day about their value going down and many men from Gen X are participating in the victim olympics as well across all parts of society. Boomers while less sensitive still take a lot personal and there are many examples in society. My Grandmother in her late 80s has been married for 60+ years but had female friends who were acting like modern women in the 50s. And her mother was so horrible to my great grandfather that my great grandmother's own parents testify against her in the divorce proceedings. Nothing is new under the sun we just have smart phones and social media lol.
Truth!
No for real even when it came to the whole body count topic…she just wasn’t getting the concept of that lol 🙄
Exactly
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Amazing how much Eboni has grown since the passing of KS. He won't get the credit he deserves but he put these conversations on front street.
KS is getting his flowers. Women like Vivica A. Fox, LisaRaye, and others are rejecting his messages because they believe they have to, but if they would listen they would see that he laid the blueprint for them too. They’re still trying to date other high-value men. They need to look at high-end professionals like doctors or lawyers. These men are still high-value but not necessarily 8-figure men. They need to date older men who are away from Hollywood.
Halle Berry kind of got the memo. That’s why she has a dude. Janet will need to do the same. If they want younger men, it will cost them. They will have to play sugar mama to these young studs out here. Their money will be the attraction. Cher got THAT memo, as did Kris Jenner.
Women have unrealistic expectations because they ignore or refuse to accept facts. That gets them into trouble.
Lauren epitomizes the saying "a hit dog will holla.." time and maturity provides perspective. We can have aspirations for all kinds of things, but things change.
Loved how Eboni handled this discussion! I believe Lauren did exactly what she said Eboni does. She started off with the negatives and her tone “ could “ have someone respond defensively! Then wasn’t letting her finish her statement even though Eboni allowed her to speak without interrupting!
I stand 💯 % alongside Eboni K. Williams. Sometimes the “truth & hard facts”, are difficult for people to comprehend completely. Especially, when they have been fed fairytales and they lie to themselves. Which ultimately leads them towards unnecessary disappointments.
I also believe that some need to replay and LISTEN again. As it is clear that their biases is too loud for them to properly hear the main subject matter.
Keep speaking “truths”, Eboni K. Williams‼️.
FACTS!!!
Facts.......For a generation of black women that say they can't "find no good man," yall sure pregnant a lot
@@ThomasNdndnsj-bo7dsooooohwweeeer PREACH!!!
Dear Black People,
Holding another Black person accountable isn't a form of hate, jealousy, putting on blast, wrongdoing, etc. It's actually a form of love to help one self correct and mature. We can't get better, as a people, if we can never hold each other accountable.
Thanks,
A black person
@ThomasNdndnsj-bo7ds I think when you're a either polarizing or controversial figure such as eboni people aren't gonna look at you for advice that's just how it is. And I agree with her
“I feel, I feel, I feel..the truth doesn’t care about your feelings”….this is what has to be understood…
This was spot on. Deliverance is important but the message is the same. I tell younger women that they can make their career a priority but do not be closed off to the possibility of love in your 20s if you desire a family. You can get married and start off 1 baby by early 30s. If you want to remain career driven after you have kids it is important to communicate that with your spouse. There are men who will be hands on with the home and kids so you can fulfill that desire as well.
“Delivery,” not “deliverance.”
Deliverance means providing freedom, which is what Eboni K is doing, but within the context of Lauren’s gripe, it is about delivery, and it’s a phony narrative.
From what I am hearing, the conversation is very much meant for Lauren because she is in denial and therefor sits among the many women who need to hear the message.
She seems to be in denial about the s3xual market power-shift that occurs as we age past 30, as well as the fact that a marriage-minded woman needs to listen to what men think and value.
She believes older women can compete with younger women, and it just isn’t true. Can older women be attractive to men? Absolutely. But even men know their older selves cannot compete either their younger selves physically. I looked my best at age 28!
I’ll never look that good again. Can I still look good? Yes. Can I still look better than most men my age as I grow older? That is absolutely possible.
Still, my older self cannot compete with my younger self. I can equalize things by accumulating resources, performing well in the workplace, staying in shape, looking as young and fit as possible, staying on top of my fashion game, and looking in the right places for the right women with the right mindset.
Men understand this, which is partly why we gain that power over time. We accept facts and know where to concentrate our efforts because we think strategically.
Women like Lauren don’t think that way because they are not inclined to deal in facts, data/statistics, harsh realities, and the like. They deal in feelings and emotion.
Thats the trap!
Griping about “message delivery” or “packaging” is just Lauren’s excuse to reject the entire message, and that is the behavior of a child, not a rational adult.
I may not like the way someone delivers a message, but if they’re spitting facts there’s nothing I can do but make a choice to accept the facts or ignore them at my own peril.
What I won’t do is go fragile and cloak a dispute on a false narrative to make myself feel better.
Lauren disagrees with the facts, but she’s cloaking her disagreement in some phony narrative about delivery. If she agreed with the message and was willing to accept it, she wouldn’t be debating Eboni, she would instead be repackaging it and delivering it herself on her own terms. Instead, Lauren wants to make Eboni change her position so that she can feel better. Lauren’s position is not about facts, it’s about feelings.
Peep game. She doesn’t like the facts!
Lauren is an example of a woman who may want to invest in some cats or a dog, because she is likely to spend her golden years ALONE.
She can scream about delivery and packaging all she wants to, but i also heard her try to convince Eboni that she is incorrect about dwindling marriage prospects over time.
THAT, people, is a woman in denial.
I appreciate this conversation this morning. We need to have more conversations like this in black communities. Fertility is not and easy journey and to do it alone is hard.
@sharita1118 With all due respect sis that's because it's not meant to be done alone. Is anyone thinking about that child that will grow up wanting a Father?
@sam8307 This is a valid point that needs to be discussed. I doubt this trend is good for our community long term.
@@indiefilmmillennial8338most children in black America are fatherless. I agree the decision is selfish and I know she will struggle more doing it alone. But it’s just as selfish having babies by deadbeat men knowing the man will be absent and the children will grow up poor. at least her child won’t be broke like most black American children
As a woman in my late 30's, I agree with Eboni 100%.
You mean Kevin Samuels
Exactly give credit to Kevin Samuels
💯😅 same
@@getmoneychill6462ditto ks
@@getmoneychill6462facts but the fact that he’s a black man people won’t take what he was saying seriously they will say he’s single /divorced but so is Eboni but now people want to pay attention to what she saying when Kevin was been speaking this truth
Her delivery was perfectly clear. She heard what she wanted to hear!!! KS and many men before him have been saying this for 20 years
This is the conversation that the women need to have....and keep having. Good luck, ladies. 😊
I love this conversation!! As a mother of 2 college graduates and 1 a current college student, THIS is a conversation that needs to be had. I have it with my son and my two daughters. Shout out to Eboni. We must have hard conversations, whether we agree or disagree!!
Kellita, Mamita your son has more options. He'll be aight in this economy of colorism.
@@PHlophe why would he be okay with colorism?
This is a perfect example of the circle of life. When we were kids we found it hard to take advice from our parents then we get older and don’t take the advice from the older women who have literally been through other same things 10 or 20 years ago. Wake up Lauren she’s giving you game so that you can break the cycle of young women not listening and paying attention. I recently graduated with my doctorate now married with a baby. Please listen girl.
Kevin Samuels already told y'all but I guess it's more digestible in a female form
@@PardonMyPresenceYeah, older women usually guide women. Same with male elders.
Hats off to you, ma'am. 🎉
The youth don't want to listen without getting defensive too quickly! Especially when speaking truth.
@@PardonMyPresenceEXAAAAATLYYY
Had to listen to this twice and get out of my feelings. I understand ebony better now
She's speaking FACTS! In 1994, a college professor told us freshman that if we wanted to be married, to find our husbands in college....I did! We've been married for 23 years. My friends are now saying that they wished they had done the same. They are admitting that it's hard to find a husband now that we're over 45. Young women really need to listen to what's she's saying.
If a woman keeps her weight down and doesn’t have kids out of wedlock, she can get married after 40. I’m an attorney, met my husband at 39, and we got married and pregnant within a year. I know so many wealthy black men with no kids that are ready to be married, but refuse to date overweight single moms. Age is a misnomer up to a certain point. Just be skinny and do not have kids out of wedlock, have a pleasant demeanor and be domesticated and you can get married at any age. I did. My mom did, my step-mom did it all over age 40. Eboni’s problem isn’t her age, it’s her attitude.
@@TillMoneyDoUsPart
Exactly!
My parents met in college and they’ve been married 61 years!
@@TillMoneyDoUsPartYou had me until you said skinny.
Only a few minute in and Lauren’s argument isn’t making any sense. What Eboni said was 100% correct.
Loren is a moron. I’ve really tried with her but she’s slow and plays into a lot of ignorant hood talking points.
Lauren wants to control what other people say because her feelings have been triggered that's what all these 14 paragraphs that she spitting out is about
Lauren is coming from an emotional perspective instead of a realistic one.
@@SEELAYTRAY777Exactly 💯 ❤
Facts, Eboni kept it real with women, and a lot of women like Lauren doesn’t want to hear it because the truth doesn’t make them feel good.
Eboni was 100% correct, Lauren just didn’t like hearing it. Eboni is a defense lawyer so her approach is never nice but it’s in love. Lauren is not equipped to have any mature conversation. She has no education, statistics, facts, or context to support her comments. “I feel. I just feel.” Girl, hush🤐
That one caller asking “how were
You raised?” Is ignorant & helped make Ebony’s point.
Say it louder for the people in the back
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Damn lmfaoooo
Exactly. She is likable but she is very ill-equipped to discuss anything beyond break dancing and boyfriend drama.
Exactly. This convo highlights the main issue with some of these women: they prioritize feelings over facts.
This conversation is so important.
Life can be so tumultuous any advice with a high level of transparency is better than none.
A lot of us find relationships in college and want marriage and a happy two parent home but that’s not always the reality. As a married, single or recently divorced mother it is HARD. Women need a reality perspective!
Judge Eboni is real! Only those like myself can understand where she's coming from without getting offended.
To be fair to Eboni K Williams, there were articles and books written about this years ago, it’s not a new concept. Women traditionally got married and had kids at an early age which is still practiced around the world in many countries. Feminism told women they can hold off on that while chasing the career, degree, dating casually and when they are ready the man of their dreams will be waiting. Women soon found out it was tougher to find men on their “level” that had mutual interest. All she is pointing out there is a consequence to holding off on finding a partner if your goal is marriage.
Couldn't have said it any better myself 👏
I agree... speaking from experience
Feminism HATES femininity. No greater nor more dangerous lie has been as pervasive as western feminism.
How can anyone disagree with this?
That part ❤
More of these conversations are sooo needed in our community. Everything Eboni is saying is a hard truth but is needed.
why is the conversation needed now that eboni flip flopped and stole word for word what Kevin Samuels was preaching for years and had a show where black woman called in and argued about that same topic. Eboni is stealing topics from his show and trying to get a quick bag I get it. but at least switch it up. she stealing word for word with no shame.
@@darrellh2837facts! This is the same exact conversation Jason Black, Kevin Samuels and even Mrs. G we’re all trying to have years ago.
This conversation has been had at nauseam the problem is women don't listen to understand.
Did you hear that Eboni is advocating for voluntarily becoming a single mother? She basically advocating for eugenics. Also the child is automatically placed at a disadvantage that she's selfishly cheerleading.
@@darrellh2837She Stole Kevin Samuels Shitt Word For Word.
Still Trying To Make Herself Being A SINGLE MOTHER Coo💯
The part when she said when you are in college that is the biggest pool of black men that have same goals !! Lawdddd i wish somebody had told me that !!
Lauren’s POV really helps me to understand why politicians who want support from black women address them the way they do. It’s also clear why pols who use the same approach to get support from black men get pushback.
I'm a female, 34, not married and completely agree with Eboni.
I’m a woman, 34, not married, and completely disagree.
To each their own, though.
Everyone can have an opinion & a view of things but please I beg you my black queens do not adopt her angry man hating energy. That will hinder any ability to get a quality man of any kind. Men want kindness in their women. Not saying be fake but positive self improvement is key to life. All her millions & every time I see her she more angry than the last.
Yo get it baby girl💪💪
Do y'all know that if u listen to eboni and Kevin Samuels they are saying the same things
Good for you sweetheart. I wish I would have heard this when I was your age. Blessings ❤
I will say as black woman that is a mother to a daughter I push the focus on education & independence & completely neglect the room for marriage, this conversation opened my eyes. I know my daughter wants a marriage & kids & that is something that she needs to prioritize along with her education & ability to be completely independent
Maybe teach the controls over emotional response.Communication is important and women can't control themselves.
On the flip side…I tell my son to try to avoid marrying a college educated woman. There’s nothing worse than females with liberal arts educations. They can’t be told sh**.
May I ask why?
So basically you want her to be alone just like you are... Completely independent will most likely leave you completely alone.
Question is, what did her father teach her?
Eboni is 100% correct college age men should take heed as well. I realize that on campus their were some women that i met that are top notch and opportunity missed.
This women is clear on what she's saying and who she's saying it to, as well as her own viewpoint and perspective that she's saying it from. So she really is not for everybody, but she says things that everyone can give some thought to and see what their own personal thoughts, beliefs and values are on the subject matters, so in a way she is for everyone. ☀️🙏🏾
Eboni's content AND delivery are both on point. Kudos to her and the courage to accept reality.
She's not accepting reality. How you gonna go to fertility clinics to make babies with no husband or father? Better off adopting. Why wait so long, freeze your eggs and then abuse fertility clinics just to have a baby who still gonna miss their biological father side and be raised by a single parent? Smh
I think she rides the fence. That's not being on point.
I completely understand where Eboni is coming from. This outlook is directed towards a specific group of black women, if it doesn’t apply, let it fly 🤷🏾♀️
Wishing Eboni the best on her mommy journey 💗
This. The many women who are getting upset didn't go to highly-ranked schools, did not go to law school, and are not T.V. personalities. Her struggles are different. It's similar to her comments about not dating a bus driver. She is an attorney, so it would make sense that she would want to date someone with a similar or better occupation. That's just her preference, no need to get any deeper than that.
No its for all black women who thinks they can get they man at 80
Sista's Want Ghost From Power A Street N!gg@ That Can Put On A Suit And Thrive As A Legit Businessman
Agreed. I honestly think in my opinion Lauren is defensive because she wasted 10 years of her life where the relationship she was in didn't end up where she wanted it. She can still achieve it however self awareness and reflection has to be done on her end. She's beautiful physically and in spirit but just need to hear the OG's who's been down Eboni's and the likes path.
💯💯📌 I always say, a hot dog will holla!
I’m confused why a dude was disrespected for calling? Saying a man can’t speak on female dating market value doesn’t make sense because the men are the ones who dictate that.
R.I.P Kevin Samuels. He said the EXACT same thing for YEARS & caught hell for it.Hopefully women are more receptive to an older black women giving the same. game💯
Eboni is 100000% correct!!! I’ve been preaching this to my little sister and cousins. I wish so badly that I prioritized family/marriage in college along with the degree. My family, not intentionally, led me wrong. And at 30+, I am regretful and resentful. Thank you, Eboni!!! Keep telling the truth!
Hope it works out for you. I'm glad you admit it and most importantly are passing it on. We need more nuclear families esp in the Black community.
Did they tell you not to go to college? How did they lead you wrong?
Cap 🧢 😂😴
You don’t have to prioritize men they’ll approach and they’re everywhere.
Damn you don’t need to be resentful you just need to focus like a laser to find the right guy to marry before you hit 40. Kevin samuels talked about this but black woken didn’t listen
Shout out to Eboni for telling the truth.
The fact that ABC is calling a 72 yr old man the Golden Bachelor while they called a 38yr old woman the Oldest Bachelorette, should be a wake up call. A lot of women just don’t want to hear what Eboni is saying is because she is the attractive arm candy that was able to have a high caliber man propose to her
Nah this was Kev Samuels wave.She’s repeating everything the good brother Kev was dropping
@@getmoneychill6462 Facts. Gotta give respect to the godfather on that 👊🏾
@@getmoneychill6462He was also single for many years when he died, he was unattractive…oh & he died while 4ucking the very type of woman he told the world to stay away from. He was a big joke & had dummies as followers😅
@@getmoneychill6462word for word. Bar for bar.
Black women , in most cases have that very bad habits od comparing themselves to rich and successful people when they are themselves average and below average Most of them can barely keeps a Walmart and Burger
king jobs but thinks they deserves the Birkin bag , sis you cannot even afford the Walmart bag.. During a lifetime as a man you can count on one hand how many women you comes across that are not in debts . Before you women starts talking about Channel and Birkin bags , why not talks about being debts free, with 700 credit score with a 6 figures savings account for a change. I am not even a millionaire, but still has a 5 figures savings account, with zero debts , one credit card, no car payments ..
I wish I would of had Eboni’s advice in college. It’s 100%
You were not raised to care at all what a ⚫️man wants like most ⚫️women are raised, so it still would not have worked out.
Yep👏🏾
Me too😢😢
Lauren needed to have and hear this conversation. She was registering information from an emotional stance.
Can't build an empire with an emotional person, forget the kids..
Like most ( not all ) women .
It speaks VOLUMES how Lauren openly admitted from the beginning that SHE WASN'T LISTENING so all the anger and backlash is foolish bc whether you agree or not, if youre not listening then why are you talking?😅
I don’t understand why it is so hard to understand that men have desires, such as legacy, and wont sacrifice that.
legacy, gmfab. yall want to make kids and not do the work to actually bring the legacy into fruition. just having kids is not a legacy.
What I love about the conversation is the Eboni broke down the cost of egg retrieval. We watch celebrities talk about doing these things and don't factor in the cost for us normal everyday people. So be aware of friends, celebrities and influencers trying to encourage us to be so materialistic that we don't have funds for the things that are really necessary or that will really bring us joy.
This is the first woman on earth I’ve ever heard giving younger women the correct advice. It’s harsh but true. Women live under the delusion that when they hit 40 they will not only find the man of their dreams but also he will be interested in her AND marry her AND she will be able to have kids and they will have kids. You have more chance of winning the lotto. The reality is you had prime years to secure that.
Imagine if I, a man am 6”8 an in high school. I have all colleges interested in giving me scholarships and fighting for me. Imagine if I said to myself “oooo I have so many options, tell you what, I’m going to wait until I’m 40 and I’ll come back and clearly all these top colleges will still be interested in me”. That’s how daft it sounds
The Breakfast Club is on it's death bed, DYING right before our eyes.. 😭😭🤣
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Omg, when I first heard this through a "telephone" kind of conversation. I thought that sounds wrong. But now listening to Eboni K and getting the right information. Baby, she 1,000,000% RIGHT!!! I AM LIVING EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS SAYING. I WISH I HAD SOMEONE TO TELL ME THIS WHILE I WAS IN MY 20'S. LISTEN TO HER PLLLLEEEEAAASSEE!
Kevin Samuels said the same thing
Bless you Sis. Now bless others with your courage and experience
As a woman who got married for the first time at age 43 and did prioritize marriage/ family in my 20s, I disagree 100% with Eboni stance on this topic. During my early years, I dated guys with the intention of marriage on my end but they were not interested in marriage. So I continued to pursue my education and career and met the right man later in life which is ok. Now, I’m looking at my mother, aunts and friends who did get married in their early 20s and every last one of them are divorced and some of them regret having kids. Don’t let society bully you into thinking that marriage and family is your only purpose on this earth and if you are dating a man who is not also prioritizing marriage/family then leave him before he turns you into a single mother. I’d rather die alone than to still die alone after getting married and having kids. That’s the other side most people won’t tell you about
You make no sense because out of 10 women in their 40's,2 are likely to get married which is still very very bad..
@@godsownson2469 yes I do make sense because being married and having children normally does not add anything to a woman’s life accept extra stress and poverty, especially when it involves black men who feel they should get away with only paying a light bill. If women can find a good man who loves and provides for them, then yes marriage and children are great, but marriage and children is highly overrated if you are involved with the wrong person. If you don’t find the right person to settle fish with, it’s not the end of the world. Marriage and children is nothing to flex about
There is a reason that over 70% of divorces are initiated by women. That’s because most of us do it as a result to societal pressures only to realize it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. There are many married and divorced women out there with a lifetime of headaches/regrets and many unwanted children out there. That’s what’s bad
@@Caligirl1977how old is your husband
THANK YOU!!! I Agree With You 130%!!! It’s So Irritating To Hear Women Who Are Educated, Who Do Not Critically Think About This Topic & Fall Into A Groupthink Type Of Mentality!! I’m 31 & Have Zero Desire To Marry A Man & Sacrifice My Freedom & Keep Playing Into This Failing Capitalist Society! The Desperation Of These Women Who Want These Fairytale Romances As If The Divorce Rate Isn’t Astronomical, Is Truly Insane To Me! These Men Are Not Valuable, WOMEN HOLD VALUE & I’m Tired Of Them Lessening Themselves For Men While Convincing Young Women To Do The Same.. 🤦🏾♀️
Lauren is too immature to accept the truth of what Eboni is saying because that truth reinforces her insecurities. That doesn't make it untrue. Maturity comes with time. Some truths are hard to take.
This is the type of conversation that happens when you have people on two different spectrums of intellect. Eboni has a vast vocabulary and intense passion that can definitely turn weak people off. Thank God I’m strong 😂❤
We need more older women giving younger women the “game” … Keep talking to young women Eboni, use your platform to help them.
But when men give y'all "the game", as we've been doing, y'all call us women-haters.
she still wouldn't date a bus driver.
At this point she could date a bus driver. Sign a pre nump and get married. Hire the bus driver to come work for her and they can still have kids naturally
With respect, Your point is nothing but FACTS! But A LOT of women PERIOD, need to stop watching the "reality shows, listening to these feminist talk shows, symps (Dj Envy), listening to the rachet female rappers, musicians and "movie" stars (men and women). The worst part is, some of the older "wiser" women are doing the same things as well.
@@The_Gr8Pre10der But that's to much "common sense" for an independent educated woman!
@@The_Gr8Pre10der She wouldn't have anything in common with a bus driver.
Love it or Hate it Eboni is spitting facts! Have a blessed Friday family!
She's not lol
On GOD!!
She makes all the sense.. Loren. Was so damn childish, she couldn't even be respectful enough to allow her to finish her statement and took it as an attack, when in reality it didn't even apply to her BECAUSE HELLO, THIS EMOTIONAL AZZ BROAD ISN'T EVEN IN COLLEGE, SHE MAD CAUSE SHE FEELS THE TRUTH AS SHE LITERALLY FEELS HWR INSIDES WITHERING AWAY AND TIME DEPLETING, SHE MAD CAUSE SHE KNOWS WHAT EBONI IS SAYING IS FACTS CAUSE LOREN IS LITERALLY THE WALKING EMBODIMENT OF THE TRUTH AND FACTS EBONI IS SPEAKING ABOUT!! GET THE BROAD OUTTA HERE, NOT GOOD FOR THE SHOW AND SHE GONNA WIND UP MAKING A LOT OF FOLKS CHOOSE TO NOT CONSUME FROM THE BREAKFAST CLUB ON GOD!! 😂😂😢😢🎉🎉❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢😅😅😂😂
@@Sparkl3pantz222 Preach!!!!
@@Sparkl3pantz222Eboni took Kev Samuels wave.Kev was getting bashed for the same game he was putting down.Eboni is full of it.A book is coming Kev delivery was brash but he was saying the same thing I call bullshit
As a man I wasn't the biggest KS fan. He definitley was more right than wrong. That dig was totally unneccesary. The fact Eboni singing this tune once again proves it.
Kevin Samuel's speaks volumes within himself. He spoke about women freezing their eggs and being single and alone
Eboni says a lot that we think & not say out loud! I’m an attractive & educated, 43 year old, African-American woman. I don’t have any children & I’m not married…or ENGAGED! Trust me…I struggle with knowing that I may not have any children & may not be married before I leave this physical Earth. Blessings to all…🙌🏾🙏🏾
Same here sis! That's why I tell a lot of women around my age, if u not already comfortable with u, u better get comfortable!!
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You should have opened up your dating options a long time ago hun. It’s not too late
Being open to listening and allowing yourself time to process the provided information is everything. Personal insecurities are highlighted when we become defensive and tell others that their delivery was wrong. Yield to the advice of those who have gone before you as experience is the greatest teacher. It will save you a lot of heartache in the future.
Eboni and Lauren, thanks for the positive exchange. I will be tuning into both of your outlets moving forward.
have a different take on this I think she was talking and talkingAbout herself and projecting her feelings onto young women which is wrong
@@shellyhunt4910how was she projecting when she made her comments that are in question, without even knowing this young lady? EKW definitely was talking from a place of experience, saying, if u don't want my results, do the opposite.
That's what men's have been saying since the beginning of times, but supposedly we were too patriarchal too controlling and were not allowed to tell women what they should or can do with their body. It's funny to see and witness stupid ignorant women learning that you cannot runs away from the truth, reality and nature. Men's never sets the rules , we just follows logic, common sense and nature, but for ignorant people these were seen as patriarchal and controlling.. The same women who once were saying we don't need men, we can do everything by ourselves , but are begging for sperms donors who are men , and learning without men you are inexistent and irrelevant in society. Same for men that's why we never sys stupid and ignorant ish like we don't needs women , no matter who rich or successful we are..
So, women wasted 10,20,30 yrs of their precious years , to circle around to say oh ish men's were right.. bruh I remember back from my childhood, men's saying these same things, preserved your purity and innocence, dress modest, don't slept around left or right , don't get pregnant out of marriage. It's ironic who men's always ends up winning and being right. Because it's clear that women are not grown enough to know what's right for them until they failed 200 times..
@@bonafidetruckingpresentsea8222who are these women in college marrying?
When Kevin Samuels was saying this, Eboni was one of the many that disagreed… seems like time teached her a lot and she finally learned. Proud of her