Wow; I agree with this so much and I hope it has a wide reach. It has got to be the most frustrating misconception when people think a higher framerate with everything easing in and out will automatically make superior animation. Capping it off with the reminder that you don't need fantastic animation to make your film great if it shines in other areas was an excellent touch, too.
After thinking about this video for a while, I'm gonna try to make a still-polished video with a frame rate of 12 FPS, lower than my usual. Excited to see how it turns out! Thanks for the inspiration!
Not sure about you guys but I’d love if you made more videos like this. Because it’s like getting animation tips but without actually tipping you on how to do something if that makes sense.
Absolute genius. I really wished I had seen this video a few years back before I decided to retire from brickfilming after 2-3 years (StoppingInMotion9000 if you're interested). I got so caught up in how the animations looked that I completely neglected my favorite parts of the process. I loved the writing, the voice over, and the editing; but because I got lost in the mindset of "This needs to be on (animator's) caliber", I lost my enjoyment and passion for the art form. I hope a ton of new brickfilmers see this and take in what you're saying. Fantastic work.
Thanks you so much for making this video LoneClone, I also make brickfilms or animations and I have been getting like a TON of response like "very choppy" or "do higher fps" which annoys me a lot. You speaks the truth, it doesn't have to be higher frames to get smooth animation, you show comparisons of 24 and 12 FPS (which I'm currently doing now). I really enjoy this video, I hope you make more like this.
Great video! One of my favourite animators is JSlegomaster! He doesn't make brick films anymore, but he used to make ww2 vids. Those weren't the smoothest animations, but the story, movement, understanding of the frame rate and setting really made the videos some of the greatest!
I really like this video essays you do on brick films. This topic in particular is something i have to repeat over and over to my followers when they ask me about animation. Keep these up! p.s. Mr Plinkket all the way!
Ah, I seem to have found a fellow Plinkett fan. ;) But seriously, I agree. Smooth animation is fine, but there are aspects of animation that are so much more important.
I agree. One of my favorite aspects of a brickfilm is not just its story or amount of humor, but its ability to show something or someone from a different perspective; Especially if that point of view isn't shown much, or at all.
Wow, you’re really encouraging. I especially liked that last line you said about pressure from other stop motion film makers. Thank you for giving me inspiration. Thank you.
Wow, this was amazing. I'm a stop-motion animator who has been animating since 2014 and i have to say that this was very enjoyable to watch, it takes artists (and animators alike) years to perfect their craft,and this pretty much summed it up
Thanks dude, this really helps. As a channel that just started doing small brick films and stressing about what everyone else is doing. I'm fine with the animations I have and I don't have to worry about everyone else's animation skills
I watch a TON of. Brick films and every channel I watch (including me) has a different style. Something I love doing is looking at different recreations of the same video. It shows that every one had a different way of making his or her Lego figs come to life.
When I first tried Stop Motion Animation, to say I visited this video a billion times over to see what I was doing is an understatement. This video helped me out a lot! Thank you?
Boi, ive watched so many tutorials for animation and so many animations over the years, but Ive never seen such an amazing (and actually important) video with regard to stop motion. Please, make more of these
Needed this. Always felt like my stuff didn’t get the views I was hoping for because my animation is subpar. But I like to focus on the writing and cinematography more than the animation because i find it more fulfilling. Thanks for the inspiration and reassurance.
Oh my god, Thank you. I’ve been trying to find a video like this for so long. Sometimes smoother animation is just dizzy and hard to look at. Sure you might view me as a caveman for this but I like to comprehend the frames. Don’t make everything so smooth that it’s hard to look at.
thank you! this will really help me my future animated projects and I think anyone who wants to become an animator should watch this video I find it quite inspiring:)
This is great! I love the more "insider documentary" style to this, I feel like I'm part of the inner works of brickfilming. And I feel that this is a constant, keeping some sort of creative custom within the brickfilm community. Its hard to explain lol but I like it. 👍
You made some great points, in fact, if you think of the Lego Movie or Lego Batman, they take the idea of "choppy" animation" and turn it into a style, I actually started animating in 15fps to giving my films a classic, choppy feel but than changed back only because I told some of my subscribers and they wanted 24fps.
Those films look so good even though they're at 15 fps because they're animated by professionals who have excellent sense of weight, spacing, and timing. Hell, half the shots in Disney movies (pre-cg era) are "shot on twos", or drawn at 12 fps, and they look totally natural for the same reasons.
I had a style of choppy animation a few months ago that I did on purpose and I asked what people thought and most of them loved it but I got a couple people telling me to increase the frame rate I felt like a baby. It depends on the kind of choppy animation. Usually people don’t do this style, and I honestly don’t find unintentional choppy animation any entertaining at all. You made some good pints here but I’ll still recommend smooth animation as an option. But this is a bold move so ten points to Griffendor
The title is clickbait to get people to watch, not the point I was making. I wasn't saying that you don't need smooth animation, but there are misconceptions in what is considered to be smooth. Less frame rate and more flow and liveliness, I still think everyone should strive for "smooth" animation.
Wow! That's so good! I always feel so bad, that I don't really get how to ease properly and many other brickfilmers have way better animation technique than me. But I think I have to overthink that concept again. I think you are right. I don't have to feel bad.
I absolutely love this video ♥️ There are some excellent points that I agree with! Timing is key. The timing is what makes it “smooth” or “fluid”; but as you stated, characteristic and movement are also key.
Thank you! I just started posting stop motion videos. And this really helped, they are not that good, but they are good enough. This channel is great and ima subscribe!
At least we are talking about animation style specifically, but I'm never gonna hear the words "just do you" without thinking "aww shit. it's the overly laid back mf's here to give yet again the worst life advice you could ever follow." 💀
This is a fantastic analysis for stop-motion animators, I think a lot of people lose the core values in animation by not finding their own comfort. 15fps is very comfortable for most animators that's why most use it. However people shouldn't be doing certain aspects because so and so uses it and says its great. I think patience is one of the things that brickfilmers need, I spend most weeks trying out new techniques, and playing around with doing different things in the frames and seeing what it looks like.
Yeah, I think experimentation is key to finding your comfort in animation, and a way to find what works, and what doesn't. I checked out your channel, and your animation is great! Nice videos man!
I think something a lot of newcomers forget is to develop their own style. I spent my first few years trying to be just as good as Forrest- even down to using some of the same backdrops and re-creating some of his setpieces. I started to become really satisfied with my work once I came up with my own unique style of animation- it might not be the best and it may not be liked by everyone- but it feels like me and is how I see my stories coming to life. Not all of my films are masterpieces, but there's nothing else like them. I feel like there's become one standardized style nowadays that a lot of starting animators have copied off each other- a consistent 15 FPS and with every motion rooted in the ease-in-ease-out principle. Like you said, these aren't bad attributes but I would agree that they should not be taken as a prerequisite!
Fantastic video and very well-constructed! I love the analysis and breakdown of how the difference of "types" of stop-motion videos can drastically effect the overall quality. Brilliant work and I love the footage of forrestfire101 (Was that AubreyStudios82 and Keshen8 as well?) as well as the MR. PLINKETT-esque voice tone haha
@@LonecloneProductions thank you for making this video because I don’t really feel the need to constantly animate arm and leg movements when talking I only add one or two movements
I think that lego animatiors who make videos with less quality and FPS are alot more enjoyable to see because they've developed their own unique style that is comfortable to them. When I first started doing lego stop motion, the quality wasn't that great (I was using a 3DS XD) and I never moved the figures legs at all. But I always found myself enjoying it so much because it was simple and comfortable. Just like you said, keeping it humble! :)
this actually made me try to focus on my animation. and want to practice instead of just making animations and hope they are good when I know they probably wont be.
This also applies to filming equipment too. I got a camera for Christmas and didn't use the tips I learned over the years that applied to lego animation. That video was as good as the amount of effort I put into it. 😁😁😁
Hi Loneclone, I could not agree more. Smooth animation may be nice, but it's the story that counts in the end. I even like it when movements in brickfilms are not too smooth because that is something which is characteristic of them. Additionally, making brickfilms is always a compromise of how many time and fps you want to invest. So I think it is much more important that a brickfilm has no camera shaking, clear pictures (instead of blurry ones), good sound and music and an interesting story and less how smooth it is or which fps was used.
Wow! Thanks for explaining these Lego stop motion animation stuff to me. I am still a noob at stop motion and I’m not really good at them, but thanks! Your video helped a lot! I post my stop motion videos on my channel :)
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying there are points where actively easing in and out will detract from the reality of the movement. Creating uniform movements for every single shot just isn't true to life, like with the examples I showed.
A very interesting and supportive piece: you are spot on. If the film doesn’t have heart, the frame rate is irrelevant. I could have lived without the Mr Plinket impersonation, but a great video.
Wow; I agree with this so much and I hope it has a wide reach. It has got to be the most frustrating misconception when people think a higher framerate with everything easing in and out will automatically make superior animation. Capping it off with the reminder that you don't need fantastic animation to make your film great if it shines in other areas was an excellent touch, too.
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Easing in and out is bad....BLASPHEMY! MAY THE GODS OF BRICKFILMING SMITE YOU WHERE YOU STAND!!
But seriously, another great video essay.
Hey when is your new video going to come out i been waiting for your new video
you the god of brickfilming
My only criteria is to make it entertaining. :)
After thinking about this video for a while, I'm gonna try to make a still-polished video with a frame rate of 12 FPS, lower than my usual. Excited to see how it turns out! Thanks for the inspiration!
That's awesome dude, I'd love to see what you make!
FINALLY someone who doesn’t heart there own comment
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Love this. Very inspirational and insightful commentary on this community.
HoustonProductions1 oh hey it’s you
Not sure about you guys but I’d love if you made more videos like this. Because it’s like getting animation tips but without actually tipping you on how to do something if that makes sense.
Agreed this video taught me a lot...............
Amazing video!
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This was really well made. Good job and keep up the good work!
I see you on every lego stop motion video
YES! Finally someone made on video mythbusting the FPS. I've had the idea to do one for quite some time. Thank you.
Absolute genius. I really wished I had seen this video a few years back before I decided to retire from brickfilming after 2-3 years (StoppingInMotion9000 if you're interested). I got so caught up in how the animations looked that I completely neglected my favorite parts of the process. I loved the writing, the voice over, and the editing; but because I got lost in the mindset of "This needs to be on (animator's) caliber", I lost my enjoyment and passion for the art form. I hope a ton of new brickfilmers see this and take in what you're saying. Fantastic work.
BeeSquared it doesn’t matter about smoothness but to you it’s how you think it looks
Are you never gonna make more? I think those looked sick! 👌
Thanks you so much for making this video LoneClone, I also make brickfilms or animations and I have been getting like a TON of response like "very choppy" or "do higher fps" which annoys me a lot. You speaks the truth, it doesn't have to be higher frames to get smooth animation, you show comparisons of 24 and 12 FPS (which I'm currently doing now). I really enjoy this video, I hope you make more like this.
Great video! One of my favourite animators is JSlegomaster! He doesn't make brick films anymore, but he used to make ww2 vids. Those weren't the smoothest animations, but the story, movement, understanding of the frame rate and setting really made the videos some of the greatest!
I realy love your lego underworld series, you are my favourite animator now! keep it up the good work!
Really well written stuff man.
Im SO glad I’m not the only one that feels this way. Expressive, emotion-driven animation should always be the goal,
I really like this video essays you do on brick films. This topic in particular is something i have to repeat over and over to my followers when they ask me about animation. Keep these up!
p.s. Mr Plinkket all the way!
Ah, I seem to have found a fellow Plinkett fan. ;) But seriously, I agree. Smooth animation is fine, but there are aspects of animation that are so much more important.
I agree. One of my favorite aspects of a brickfilm is not just its story or amount of humor, but its ability to show something or someone from a different perspective; Especially if that point of view isn't shown much, or at all.
Ah, so IT WAS Plinkett parody. Thanks for clearing that out for me!... 'cept you didn't do that for me...
Wow, you’re really encouraging. I especially liked that last line you said about pressure from other stop motion film makers. Thank you for giving me inspiration. Thank you.
Wow great video tons of great advice and tips for someone who is getting into stop motion. Thank you very much. This should have more views!
Wow, this was amazing. I'm a stop-motion animator who has been animating since 2014 and i have to say that this was very enjoyable to watch, it takes artists (and animators alike) years to perfect their craft,and this pretty much summed it up
Oh Hey!
*This video is like no other. Well Done!*
Thanks dude, this really helps. As a channel that just started doing small brick films and stressing about what everyone else is doing. I'm fine with the animations I have and I don't have to worry about everyone else's animation skills
I watch a TON of. Brick films and every channel I watch (including me) has a different style. Something I love doing is looking at different recreations of the same video. It shows that every one had a different way of making his or her Lego figs come to life.
Search your style of animation with the characters, and story to get a good work.
Excellent message, Loneclone!
When I first tried Stop Motion Animation, to say I visited this video a billion times over to see what I was doing is an understatement. This video helped me out a lot! Thank you?
Excellent video essay, and something that I feel needed to be addressed. Great work.
Boi, ive watched so many tutorials for animation and so many animations over the years, but Ive never seen such an amazing (and actually important) video with regard to stop motion. Please, make more of these
Words well said, that's why I tend to make my own ideas into brickfilms
Nice vid, you made some really good points in this.
Amazingly well written and made!
Really liked the video! I just started making animations and I’ll definitely keep this in mind when making new ones.
Really well done, I agree with your points that there’s a lot more to animation than it being smooth
Needed this. Always felt like my stuff didn’t get the views I was hoping for because my animation is subpar. But I like to focus on the writing and cinematography more than the animation because i find it more fulfilling. Thanks for the inspiration and reassurance.
Oh my god, Thank you. I’ve been trying to find a video like this for so long. Sometimes smoother animation is just dizzy and hard to look at. Sure you might view me as a caveman for this but I like to comprehend the frames. Don’t make everything so smooth that it’s hard to look at.
thank you! this will really help me my future animated projects and I think anyone who wants to become an animator should watch this video I find it quite inspiring:)
Great essay man! It's really cool that someone's making essays about brickfilms. They're very helpful and entertaining!
This was one of the most helpful videos I’ve watched. Thanks
Yes, really good video. And very informative as video essay. Loved that!
Like how you organized this video similar to a red letter media plinkett video. Don't know if that was intentional but it's still amazing.
Loved it! It''s really really good! Well done man!
This is super cool. Very helpful insights. Thanks :)
I subscribed to your channel because now I’m feeling better + great videos!
All of my favorite Lego RUclipsrs
Nice analysis Alex, I will try and use what you said in my next animation.
I also was gonn ask if I donate to your Patreon will you voice act Captain America for me.
This is great! I love the more "insider documentary" style to this, I feel like I'm part of the inner works of brickfilming. And I feel that this is a constant, keeping some sort of creative custom within the brickfilm community. Its hard to explain lol but I like it. 👍
You made some great points, in fact, if you think of the Lego Movie or Lego Batman, they take the idea of "choppy" animation" and turn it into a style, I actually started animating in 15fps to giving my films a classic, choppy feel but than changed back only because I told some of my subscribers and they wanted 24fps.
Those films look so good even though they're at 15 fps because they're animated by professionals who have excellent sense of weight, spacing, and timing. Hell, half the shots in Disney movies (pre-cg era) are "shot on twos", or drawn at 12 fps, and they look totally natural for the same reasons.
WOW! Great stop motion!
Very well made video man!
Great video, thanks for the tips. You're really good at making these documentary-ish videos, like your Clone Training Center video.
You're completely right about all of that! Great video, thumbs up.
Bro you are so right. You are so articulate with your words
Really good video! That's exactly how I felt when going from 24fps back to 12fps
After watching this, I feel much more confident in my stop motion. Thanks a lot!
Great video my friend. The points you displayed are very wise and true.
I had a style of choppy animation a few months ago that I did on purpose and I asked what people thought and most of them loved it but I got a couple people telling me to increase the frame rate I felt like a baby. It depends on the kind of choppy animation. Usually people don’t do this style, and I honestly don’t find unintentional choppy animation any entertaining at all. You made some good pints here but I’ll still recommend smooth animation as an option. But this is a bold move so ten points to Griffendor
The title is clickbait to get people to watch, not the point I was making. I wasn't saying that you don't need smooth animation, but there are misconceptions in what is considered to be smooth. Less frame rate and more flow and liveliness, I still think everyone should strive for "smooth" animation.
Awesome, very informative 👍🙂
Wow! That's so good! I always feel so bad, that I don't really get how to ease properly and many other brickfilmers have way better animation technique than me. But I think I have to overthink that concept again. I think you are right. I don't have to feel bad.
I absolutely love this video ♥️
There are some excellent points that I agree with! Timing is key. The timing is what makes it “smooth” or “fluid”; but as you stated, characteristic and movement are also key.
Thank you! I just started posting stop motion videos. And this really helped, they are not that good, but they are good enough. This channel is great and ima subscribe!
You can listen to this video if you want, but my advice: just do you. Do what you feel looks best.
5 YEARS AGO?!??! I thought this is a recent video lmao
At least we are talking about animation style specifically, but I'm never gonna hear the words "just do you" without thinking "aww shit. it's the overly laid back mf's here to give yet again the worst life advice you could ever follow." 💀
Why not actually address any of the points the video made?
This is a fantastic analysis for stop-motion animators, I think a lot of people lose the core values in animation by not finding their own comfort. 15fps is very comfortable for most animators that's why most use it. However people shouldn't be doing certain aspects because so and so uses it and says its great. I think patience is one of the things that brickfilmers need, I spend most weeks trying out new techniques, and playing around with doing different things in the frames and seeing what it looks like.
Yeah, I think experimentation is key to finding your comfort in animation, and a way to find what works, and what doesn't. I checked out your channel, and your animation is great! Nice videos man!
It opens up your mind and releases stress well doing it
I think something a lot of newcomers forget is to develop their own style. I spent my first few years trying to be just as good as Forrest- even down to using some of the same backdrops and re-creating some of his setpieces. I started to become really satisfied with my work once I came up with my own unique style of animation- it might not be the best and it may not be liked by everyone- but it feels like me and is how I see my stories coming to life. Not all of my films are masterpieces, but there's nothing else like them. I feel like there's become one standardized style nowadays that a lot of starting animators have copied off each other- a consistent 15 FPS and with every motion rooted in the ease-in-ease-out principle. Like you said, these aren't bad attributes but I would agree that they should not be taken as a prerequisite!
Yeah, i'm slowly making one for myself, few more pros are that it's unique, recognisable, and you won't sometimes be called a copy of the original
Fantastic video and very well-constructed! I love the analysis and breakdown of how the difference of "types" of stop-motion videos can drastically effect the overall quality. Brilliant work and I love the footage of forrestfire101 (Was that AubreyStudios82 and Keshen8 as well?) as well as the MR. PLINKETT-esque voice tone haha
Thanks, you can check out all the clips I used in the description.
@@LonecloneProductions thank you for making this video because I don’t really feel the need to constantly animate arm and leg movements when talking I only add one or two movements
Very great video! Everything you said is very helpful!
Very interesting ! Good job !
Awesome! New plinkett review!
The end line was very wholesome and true I feel so emotional as a stop motion maker
I think that lego animatiors who make videos with less quality and FPS are alot more enjoyable to see because they've developed their own unique style that is comfortable to them. When I first started doing lego stop motion, the quality wasn't that great (I was using a 3DS XD) and I never moved the figures legs at all. But I always found myself enjoying it so much because it was simple and comfortable. Just like you said, keeping it humble! :)
this actually made me try to focus on my animation. and want to practice instead of just making animations and hope they are good when I know they probably wont be.
your video is so amazing you know?!!!
Really good advice and this should help me get started to make some amusing short films for my grandson 😄
Absolutely amazing video! Can't agree more!🙌
I’ll keep this video in mind when I animate my next brickfilm. :)
I didn't know someone had just made a video on this, but that's exactly what I meant :P
C.MeaX I apologize for misunderstanding
You didn't misunderstand, I just didn't have a video to show it. Which is why I'm happy this exists.
C.MeaX you're right
That was said perfect....I really enjoyed your knowledge.
Thank you for this video
Thank you for that no easing out when something is falling tip
Sure, just keep in mind that it doesn't just only apply to that one scenario, there are some motions that just require a full stop.
Very informative, well done!
Great video man
Nice Mr. Plinkett Refrence
This video is really helpful, I'll see whether I can apply it to my animating. Thanks!!
This is very interesting, thanks for the video man
This also applies to filming equipment too. I got a camera for Christmas and didn't use the tips I learned over the years that applied to lego animation. That video was as good as the amount of effort I put into it. 😁😁😁
True. Gotta put in the research if you really care about what you're making.
Yeah, I was just trying to get it over with, (not a good strategy).
Totally right!
Nice lego video lights.
Hi Loneclone, I could not agree more. Smooth animation may be nice, but it's the story that counts in the end. I even like it when movements in brickfilms are not too smooth because that is something which is characteristic of them. Additionally, making brickfilms is always a compromise of how many time and fps you want to invest. So I think it is much more important that a brickfilm has no camera shaking, clear pictures (instead of blurry ones), good sound and music and an interesting story and less how smooth it is or which fps was used.
Thank you. I’m going to try this.
Good video, great points - I bet even Mr. Plinkett would say so. Or not, he's grumpy.
Yesss I love how you put AubreyStudios82 in this video, love the vid btw
Sweet man!
Bravo!
this is very true, considering some of my favorite brickfilms are between 4 and 12
This video is so underrated.
Wow! Thanks for explaining these Lego stop motion animation stuff to me. I am still a noob at stop motion and I’m not really good at them, but thanks! Your video helped a lot! I post my stop motion videos on my channel :)
Happy to help :)
Nice video man and + if you do 12 fps for walk cycles it's not as long a process animating lol
We actually got The Illusion of Life earlier today! I'm defiantly going to read it ASAP.
I really like the stop motions in 12fps because it gives a different touch to those very fluid in 24fps
I simply can't agree with the not easing in and out. But the rest was really good. I learnt a lot.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying there are points where actively easing in and out will detract from the reality of the movement. Creating uniform movements for every single shot just isn't true to life, like with the examples I showed.
Yeah, I agree, using it all the time does take away the reality of it all. I wasn't trying to be mean or anything though. Thanks
thank you finally
again, pretty convinving :)) thanks, subbed ♥
A very interesting and supportive piece: you are spot on. If the film doesn’t have heart, the frame rate is irrelevant. I could have lived without the Mr Plinket impersonation, but a great video.