The volume to efficiency ratio is incredible. Not even talking about scoring. The amount of points at the basket Jokic creates for his teammates is historic. He is the entire offense.
This video made me realize Jokic really breaks the game by being the best midrange scorer and passer at the same time. Usually to get the most efficient shot you need to be close to the basket or three point line, but Jokic operating in midrange is such a boost to his teammates since he leaves the paint open and also leaves the three point line more open and he makes the perfect passes.
@@suhailrefaye92 Hakeem is substantially a better defender. However when you can do quite literally everything on offense and are average at best at defense, I think that makes up for it
Hakeem isn’t just substantially better on defense. He’s quite arguably the best ever. As skilled as Jokic is I don’t think it makes up for that level of defense.
yes, Joker definitely plays bully ball and so did players in the 90s. But he gets called for offensive fouls and plenty of super minor offenses while constantly getting bear mauled with no whistle (and still scoring with unreal efficiency through heavy contact) and even gets ejected because of frustration with these crooked refs! If they were fair and consistent, Joker would have roughly the same # of fouls and draw 3-5 more per game, 5-10 more with the LeBalco or Embiid whistle
The craziest pass i’ve seen from him is that 3/4 court out of bonds lob pass on a dime to AG against memphis i believe. This dude is crazy he’s in my top 5 passers ever
If he didn't play center position he would average 15 assists a game. He have point guards in his team that do well assisting as well, so comparing center to the point guards in assist numbers in this video to prove or disprove anything is just silly. He is super efficient player that does not slow his offense, it really opens the game and celling is much higher, a true definition of a team player.
He is not the only passer who can make that pass honestly. He is an absolute monster passer tho. Him and Luka would end up 1A and 1B in term of passers tho
Jokic is singlehandedly changing my whole idea of basketball at the highest level. Previously, I thought basketball was 70% physical/athletics and 30% smarts but the Joker is the exact opposite. Man is an actual basketball savant with fairly limited speed, strength and agility but he CANT BE STOPPED.
Jokic is extremely agile. I don't get the narratives that Jokic and Luka aren't athletic just because they are slow and white. Their balance, agility and overall body control is the best is the league.
He's not that physically weak. He is big and strong. If he wasn't, he wouldn't be able to make such passes across the pitch or over the heads of other players.
Also use that thinking to reframe what you think of being physical/athletic. Jokic has some amazing physical and athletic capabilities, it’s just he uses his brain to do some things that others players just use athleticism for. E.g. the fact this man’s feet actually rarely leave the floor, meaning he’s always able to be a half step quicker cause he’s already gathered and set on his feet constantly
@@redmangoose182 Yeah I don’t recall Duncan wanting to just go home after winning a chip. Even tho he was reserved and quiet like jokic, he simply cared more. Just never seen a player of his caliber treat this like a 9-5😂.
@@fridgetestimonies3004 thats a total misconception thats been dispelled though. Jokic is just as obsessed as any great player. He probably isn’t one for reveling in the spotlight and celebration. He shows his passion in his game and definitely gets heated at times. When he wins, his mind just goes to other duties lol.
@@AHMAD-2324nigga who cares. Thats team success and individual success. Cant be that lucky to have the best team every year. Show me one player who got a ring every year they played.
Jokic’s advance stats are actually ridiculous. I never dove deep into it but those PER 100 Poss and PER 36 are insane. One of the fastest climbing All Time players I have ever seen.
@@d3adyoutubeaccount_estúpido_ . the numbers are cross era because that's how relativity works. _Relative to his peers_ , Jokic is as good offensively as anyone ever has been.
Most fans nowadays won’t even want to consider the fact their favorites will be surpassed someday. They’ll put on their blinders and just spew out hate
Whayt!?!?! After 10 years of playing in the NBA with his size, and with the smart players around him. Yes, maybe. But when they lost to Spurs the other day. It just showed that if Wemby also has the same smart and good players around him, jokic is nothing in front of Wemby. Plus when he plays, he's already tall and bulky, but always pushes and use his elbows and gets away with it. Jokic is a shit.
He is the BEST ALLROUND TEAM PLAYER EVER!-) btw, i was a bit suprised how good produced your video is and thank you very much for your explanation about the TS% 4:46 Keep up the good work, im following you from now :) Cheers!
Honestly, I'm not mad at it. If he wins back to back, I'll agree. He can literally do it all, and I'm starting to think he's been the best in the world for a long time. we just didn't know cause his team had been hurt.
And the weird media campaign to suppress, smear, and discredit him the last year or two has been verrrrry effective as well. Such a shame but I’m glad last year’s final run opened more people’s eyes to his brilliance and beautiful game
Just a thought here, but as a Lakers fan, I gotta try and find an answer to how to stop Jokic. Running the math on his game, I found keeping him on the perimeter and only giving him looks from 3 might be the key. With his overall efficiency numbers, he actually scores fewer points if all his shots are 3s, despite his percentage being very respectable from that range. Additionally, it will be more difficult for him to generate offensive rebounds and mismatches for team mates from there. With that said, I've long agreed with all the points you've made in this video and is truly one of the most impressive offensive players I've ever seen. His assist number going up, I feel, is a result of him getting a higher quality team around him over time, with Denver having been downright genius with their long-term roster building, resulting in more of his passes translating to made baskets.
Sure! That’s a smart strategy but: 1) who do yall have that can keep him from going wherever he wants to physically? 2) who do you have that can outsmart *and* outplay him to execute that? LBJ is smart enough but not big or durable enough to pound with Joker for 4 quarters, let alone 4-7 games 3) Joker would happily generate more offense for his boys than shoot anyway, which led to the whole “make Joker a shooter” strategy when he put up ~50 against the Suns last playoffs I’m not saying they are unbeatable and certainly any strategy might work for a game, maybe even two but it remains to be seen who has the strategy and the personnel to outduel Jok and squad since last postseason but we’ll see! I hope both of our teams stay heathy and have a great series! 🤝
I remember when he was about to win his first MVP, and me and a friend were talking about who was the best player and we spent over an hour trying to narrow it down and we were both kinda shocked we both ended up choosing Joker, and he’s just become even more polished since.
And Joker’s been battling a shooting hand wrist injury since last season and back pain, but still performing like this and taking hardly any time off. Imagine if he was healthy and/or if he got a decent whistle 🤯
@@resurrectedpanah, hes playing another max, no way hes turning down 400 mili over 5, in serbia with that kind of money hes hole family tree is set 4 ever Hes got alot now, but another max will essentially double his carrer earnings, and he ll be 38, thats still very young in life
@@resurrectedpa the NBA won't let that happen even if jokic wants to. He is still young and can stay dominant for many years and fans started going around joker and denver, the NBA as a business won't let that opportunities go.
I always wanted to see someone who played center the way Magic did when he was subbed in for Kareem. Jokic does it. They might be beat for volume, but they are the two most magical passers in the history of the NBA.
For all you advanced stats nerds out there: Jokic has led the league 4 times in offensive box plus/minus. The only other players to do it more times than him: Jordan, LeBron, and Kareem.
Only player ever to total 2000/1000/500 in a season.. and he did it on 58% shooting. He was 20ish rebounds away from doing it again this year except it would have been 2000/1000/700
Some people don’t want to have this conversation. The casual fan doesn’t like someone who can’t break someone’s ankles, dunks on someone, or shoots a 50 ft 3
@@jacobwilson7301idk, I just feel like Jokic benefits from playing in the era of small ball and positionless basketball. Just look at the big men he has to go against vs the ones from the 90s and 2000s. Not saying he wouldn’t be a great player in any era, of course he would, but to me personally I can’t put him on the same level of MJ or Lebron yet because I think much of his insane stats have to do with the era he’s playing in.
Great video and as a Nugget and Jokic I agree. You did a good job not only presenting the stats, but digging deeper into the nuances of his game. Well done!!
Been watching the league since the mid 80’s and I have to say joker is my third favorite center of all time only behind David Robinson and dream, Joker is by far my favorite player in the era for sure though.
great vid and analysis. speaking beyond simple/advanced statistics and splits, joker provides something special to any team he is playing for (Denver or Serbia). his personal traits (mainly modesty), high iq, unselfishness, carelessness on the board, leadership, etc... he makes whole squad much better, more focused, driven to win. Joker once will be one hell of a coach. i enjoyed watching NBA in 90s as most of fans, then stopped following it for over 20 years and now enjoying NBA once again thanks to Europeans - Joker, Luka, Yannis, Wemby, etc. Real thrill to watch it.
Great video . Sound analysis. That joker dude is really unfathomable. The touches and average time comparison is insane. It’s been ages since I have seen this level of puppet mastery over such a long time span without anyone really having figured out an antidote
Great video! A point that you passed through quickly deserves more attention… the fact that Jokic has such a high TS% is impressive, but his offensive rebounding and put backs make it even more insane. Many games Jokic will be something like 13-18 from the floor but of those 5 five missed shots, the dude had 3 put backs. Which is to say, if put backs were factored into TS% his numbers would dwarf everyone else
Testify!!! Preach my brother! Spread the truth to the masses. It's hard to accept at first, especially for us "old heads" but I've been watching Denver religiously throughout his career and he's more than different. Way beyond just being a problem. Terms like "unguardable, & cheat code" get used extremely often. I've heard multiple: He's the most intelligent player ever. He sees the court like Gretzky saw the ice. The complete awareness is historically unmatched. & Never have so few calls gone to someone who gets hacked on like golf balls at the Driving Range. I'll save the rest for the book. 🤔😉 ⛏️🏀🏆✌️...& Literally egoless.😵💫🤯🙀😲
I discovered your channel(s) a little over a month ago and I have to say, you surprise me and get me excited with every video you post. The amount of research and effort you put into them is staggering. Thank you for allowing your love of the game to fully bleed into your content. I appreciate the fact that you call out the idiotic takes and xenophobia, all while bringing attention to the finer things that most people don’t notice or realize. Your content is nothing short of amazing. Again, thanks man!
This was an amazing video, props to you LOW. You said exactly what I was thinking about Jokic. And honestly? I think his efficiency and lack of turnovers makes him more valuable than guys with more points or more assists. Talk about making teammates better: you very clearly explained why he's getting easier looks for teammates.
Man we done with the 2020s! Jokic was a literal farmer who just wanted to go home to his horses and only good because he played against a bunch of podcasters and sneaker heads, in a league with only 30 teams and maybe 5 good big men between them he got no comp
Considering that Jokic is the first ofensive option, can do everything offensively and also can pass on the levels of Magic and LeBron he probably is up there in general offense, he is no lower than the 3rd spot.
Nice video. I wish ESPN would do analysis like this on the best players in the NBA. Wouldn't it be great in the last weeks of the NBA they did an in depth analysis of the top 5 mvp candidates?
Great job. Lots of years watching Basketball has brought me to the same conclusion.Dave Bing was my first Bb hero. Been watching critically since then. He is the most total pkg I’ve ever seen and that’s not considering his ability to raise his teammates abilities. Hes simply the best I’ve seen.
Great breakdown! I really appreciate that you go deep on the analytics and used relative true shooting to compare between eras. Also looking at where Jokic’s scoring clips compare to the league averages. One thing I hope you consider for the future though. I think you may be confusing percentages and percentage points. So when Jokic is shooting, for example, 72% at the rim when the league average is 65%, he’s shooting 7 percentage points better than the league average not 7%. 7% better would be about 69.5% where as Jokic is shooting closer to 10% better. It’s minor I know, but just a quirk of percentages.
Its also why baseball is at an all time low in popularity. But hey as long you have a made up statistic like War. I guess thats all that matters. Nothing personal I just hate what baseball has turned into.
@@lespaul1968 Viewership has been up the last 3 years and Jokic brought fans back to the league. Also globally the NBA is more popular than ever. It's clearly on the incline
Legendary efficiency in scoring, amon the all-time best in passing (especially when including the time of posession), a dominant rebounder. What a combo. If he was a dominant shot blocker, he'd be going for the GOAT at this point
Would love a video on the Knicks. It isn’t talked about enough how they went from the worst team in the league, to the 2 seed in 4 yrs. Just incredible love after incredible love.
Me personally wilt during his days when he became a playmaker was the greatest offensive player to ever touch a basketball court (Not skill related but production) (Note assists weren’t tracked as freely in the 60s as the person you pass takes a single dribble you no longer get an assist) He was still a scoring beast and could now effectively beat double teams Basically getting rid of his biggest weakness of forced shots And he could still go off for 60 any time while also being able to drop 20 assists at the same time. And while he might not been as efficient as Jokic but truthfully I think we can all admit getting double and triple teamed every Time you touch the ball as wilt was does make scoring as effiecently as Jokic hard as well there wasn’t a 3 point line in the 60s so far less spacing allowed defense to double or triple team a lot without much of a disadvantage. And ofc lastly he averaged like some nonsense 10+offense rebounds per game that’s just unholy And if we go by one’s career I’d take wilt over anyone He showed he can drop 50 as easy as he can breathe Drop 10-20 assist like it’s a walk in the park Grab 20 offensive rebounds like it’s just another day at the office
Lekaren is not a playoff clutch player hate to put some truth on your guy. The dude is 4-6 in the finals and has been swept more times than any player in history..
No, and the reason is simple. This era is easy to dominate. Jokic isn't the only one posting ridiculous stats. The NBA is averaging the most points since the 1960's. Luka is putting up roughly a 35 point triple double. LeBron at 40 is posting the same type of stats he did at 25. 60 and 70 bombs dropped with regularity. Triple doubles are nothing. Nothing against today's players. I'm one of the rare people who (smartly) believes all era's are roughly the same, talent wise. The difference is 100% the rules. I'd love to bring Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon and Shaq to this era and see what they do. In short, Jokic is great and would be great in any era. That said, I think in the 90's, he's just be a 20-12-4 guy. Not a 26-12-9 guy. First off, they didn't let bigs orchestrate offenses like that. The most they'd let bigs do is kick it in to big fella, and if he gets doubled, pass to an open shooter. Secondly, there were more actual BIGS back then, and they could camp the paint. Thirdly, the game was more physical. Stuff that gets called a foul now wasn't called then. Ticky tack stuff. Give someone like Bird the freedom of movement (traveling, let's be real) that they have now. Give him the spacing. Let him orchestrate the offense (he was a brilliant passer) and Bird would average 35-12-10. Easy.
You have to make videos of euroleague basketball. So much tough, defense based and not just 1v1 but significantly more team basketball, with good names like Kendrick Nunn, mike James, Facundo campazzo and so much more talent
@@AHMAD-2324people love to say that in the postseason then laugh at him during the All-Star voting. If Jamal is seen as so valuable, then who’s hyping him up for All NBA? Would he even be thought about for the Olympic team if he was from the U.S. ? Cope all you want to but the post is all facts until yall stay consistent. People don’t even believe Joker is MVP worthy for two seasons straight but yall wanna claim Jamal is a honorary All Star… fooh
@@AHMAD-2324 Not really, Jemal Murry averages around 20 points a game, that puts him in top 40, he needs to be in top 24 to be an all star. He is close but not there yet. He can't be placed to be an all-star based on playoffs performances. And you can't say that Jokic plays with an all-star during the season, when Murry stats can't back it up.
@@Zemlja_je_ravna I'd much rather have a teammate who plays better in the playoffs when it matters most like Murray rather that one of the many other guys who put up big numbers in the regular season then dissappear in the playoffs lol
The time handling the ball, being one-half of other greats or any average, is the greatest stat. Think about that, the results he gets and the great numbers are being accomplished with having the ball one-half of the time. That's mind-blowing; nobody comes close to him at any time. Johik is changing the game; he is rewriting how it is played. He spends half the time touching the ball to get ultra-higher numbers. 😮
My issue with relative true shooting was always that it's a difference rather than a quotient, which is a better representation of their actual relativity to the league. I've run some numbers for this btw
I don't like the narrative that goes like "the best passing big man". He is not a passer. Passing is just one way of punishing defensive mistakes. If you leave someone wide open, if you ignore a cutter, of course he is gonna get that easy field goal. The funniest part is that when playoff time comes, Jokic increases his PPG by 4-5 while keeping all the assist, rebound, and efficiency numbers. And also he starts to hit 46% from 3 because he can. They are giving him MVP for his regular season greatness but it isn't even Jokic's best form. Watch him in playoffs. He is making history.
A big difference between Jokic and Magic/Stockton/Kidd/Paul when it comes to his ast numbers. His level of responsibility is double or triple to that of his predecessors. He has to be the number scoring option giving you 25-35 a night, the best rebounder, run the entire teams offense and facilitate. None of those other guys averaging 10+ ast a game had to do half of that. They were able to sit back most of the time, facilitate and run the offense and score when they had to. We've never seen someone have that level of responsibility other then MAYBE 2018 Lebron
The volume to efficiency ratio is incredible. Not even talking about scoring. The amount of points at the basket Jokic creates for his teammates is historic. He is the entire offense.
He is the entire offense while still having an extremely low usage rating. He is an enigma
Basketball ain’t a math problem 😂
@@somewhatunbiasedtalks with advanced analytics, it's sort of treated as one nowadays
This video made me realize Jokic really breaks the game by being the best midrange scorer and passer at the same time. Usually to get the most efficient shot you need to be close to the basket or three point line, but Jokic operating in midrange is such a boost to his teammates since he leaves the paint open and also leaves the three point line more open and he makes the perfect passes.
Wait that makes so much sense. It never clicked for me until you just said it. I appreciate the insight
Basically a spear that pierces any kind of shield 😂
God damn 😮
He’s already the most skilled center of all time. He just needs to continue his play to cement himself in the top 10 by adding more to the résumé
I'd still say Hakeem is the most skilled center of all time. If you don't take defense into account, which most people never do, then sure it's Jokic.
@@suhailrefaye92 Hakeem is substantially a better defender. However when you can do quite literally everything on offense and are average at best at defense, I think that makes up for it
@@suhailrefaye92I’m with you on that.
Hakeem isn’t just substantially better on defense. He’s quite arguably the best ever. As skilled as Jokic is I don’t think it makes up for that level of defense.
I'm going with Witl easily.
Jokic +/- speaks for itself. He clearly effects winning basketball in both facets.
Analytics ruined basketball lmao
The reason why he isnt in the 30 ppg scorer, is because the refs give him 5 FTA per game.. he gets fouled constantly, never flops or screams "AYOOOO".
He also fouls on offense often.
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 Oh stop it😂
@@jacobluvsasians he does and in other eras it would be called. Giannis too and LBJ.
yes, Joker definitely plays bully ball and so did players in the 90s. But he gets called for offensive fouls and plenty of super minor offenses while constantly getting bear mauled with no whistle (and still scoring with unreal efficiency through heavy contact) and even gets ejected because of frustration with these crooked refs!
If they were fair and consistent, Joker would have roughly the same # of fouls and draw 3-5 more per game, 5-10 more with the LeBalco or Embiid whistle
@@jesstiss222 Yeah he shoots 5-6 on average, refs ignore many fouls on him. NBA just stinks.
The craziest pass i’ve seen from him is that 3/4 court out of bonds lob pass on a dime to AG against memphis i believe. This dude is crazy he’s in my top 5 passers ever
So crazy most cameras didnt even catch it and the casters didnt even talk about it bcuz they didnt even know what happened.
If he didn't play center position he would average 15 assists a game. He have point guards in his team that do well assisting as well, so comparing center to the point guards in assist numbers in this video to prove or disprove anything is just silly. He is super efficient player that does not slow his offense, it really opens the game and celling is much higher, a true definition of a team player.
Top 1
Top 3 for sure. Eye test tells me only Magic and Nash could be ahead of him, although I think he's 2nd behind Magic.
18:37 thank you for showing that pass. That 1 assist as simple as it may seem is the reason Jokic is the Goat passer.
He is not the only passer who can make that pass honestly. He is an absolute monster passer tho. Him and Luka would end up 1A and 1B in term of passers tho
He's not the best passer now , Luka better.
Luka wouldn't even have seen that pass while being defended by 2 players taller than him@@toshirohitsugaya857
@@AhmedBouali-wf6zh
Jokic' better than luka
@@artvallejos1460 not at passing
Charles Barkley just sitting at 2, 3, and 4 spots. 😂
In particular if you go off of versatility and the ability to build around a player, that’s where Jokic shines the best.
Jokic is singlehandedly changing my whole idea of basketball at the highest level. Previously, I thought basketball was 70% physical/athletics and 30% smarts but the Joker is the exact opposite. Man is an actual basketball savant with fairly limited speed, strength and agility but he CANT BE STOPPED.
He grew up getting pushed around by two gigantic brothers ,on and off the court, believe me..
He is very strong!
Jokic is extremely agile. I don't get the narratives that Jokic and Luka aren't athletic just because they are slow and white. Their balance, agility and overall body control is the best is the league.
he still is almost 7 feet tall, you still need the physical tools but i see your point
He's not that physically weak. He is big and strong. If he wasn't, he wouldn't be able to make such passes across the pitch or over the heads of other players.
Also use that thinking to reframe what you think of being physical/athletic. Jokic has some amazing physical and athletic capabilities, it’s just he uses his brain to do some things that others players just use athleticism for. E.g. the fact this man’s feet actually rarely leave the floor, meaning he’s always able to be a half step quicker cause he’s already gathered and set on his feet constantly
I think the best attribute about Jokic is his attitude toward the game. Something we’ve never seen before from a player of his caliber
Not even Duncan?
@@redmangoose182 Yeah I don’t recall Duncan wanting to just go home after winning a chip. Even tho he was reserved and quiet like jokic, he simply cared more. Just never seen a player of his caliber treat this like a 9-5😂.
@@fridgetestimonies3004 thats a total misconception thats been dispelled though. Jokic is just as obsessed as any great player. He probably isn’t one for reveling in the spotlight and celebration. He shows his passion in his game and definitely gets heated at times. When he wins, his mind just goes to other duties lol.
What do you mean we have never seen something like this before. 😂😂😂 to many examples: hakeem, Duncan...etc
@@markkaasha2111Kawhi too, op needs some knee pads
MVP again. Should be 4 in a row.
Four league MVP's and only one Championship is not a good ratio.
@@AHMAD-2324 1 final mvp, 1 championship, now that is a good ratio.
@@AHMAD-2324nigga who cares. Thats team success and individual success. Cant be that lucky to have the best team every year. Show me one player who got a ring every year they played.
@@AHMAD-2324The FIRST year he didn’t have a starting squad of Will Barton, Paul Millsap, and Facundo Campazzo he won a championship buddy
Luka should’ve got it
This is the best Jokic video I've ever seen. Good work.
Shurely one of the best. I saw yesterday one more excelent video.
Jokic’s advance stats are actually ridiculous. I never dove deep into it but those PER 100 Poss and PER 36 are insane. One of the fastest climbing All Time players I have ever seen.
Weak era
@@d3adyoutubeaccount_estúpido_ . the numbers are cross era because that's how relativity works. _Relative to his peers_ , Jokic is as good offensively as anyone ever has been.
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weak take
@@d3adyoutubeaccount cope, players now are more skilled
@@artvallejos1460 115 points averaged?
Most fans nowadays won’t even want to consider the fact their favorites will be surpassed someday. They’ll put on their blinders and just spew out hate
Someday; not TODAY!
Players of the past set the standards very high ie. Lebron & MJ
No lol, Jokic is just overrated. The era he plays in has players like SGA averaging 30..
Whayt!?!?! After 10 years of playing in the NBA with his size, and with the smart players around him. Yes, maybe. But when they lost to Spurs the other day. It just showed that if Wemby also has the same smart and good players around him, jokic is nothing in front of Wemby. Plus when he plays, he's already tall and bulky, but always pushes and use his elbows and gets away with it. Jokic is a shit.
@@vladimirsempio2134so one game told you that he is horrible?
He is the BEST ALLROUND TEAM PLAYER EVER!-) btw, i was a bit suprised how good produced your video is and thank you very much for your explanation about the TS% 4:46
Keep up the good work, im following you from now :) Cheers!
The video is a chefs kiss, 10/10.
This video is so well researched and has such a fresh take that it blew my mind! 🎉
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Than you for your effort, have a great day!
Honestly, I'm not mad at it. If he wins back to back, I'll agree.
He can literally do it all, and I'm starting to think he's been the best in the world for a long time. we just didn't know cause his team had been hurt.
He’s probably been top 15 since his 2nd year in the league, he just had such an unconventional skill set we couldn’t see it.
@@BigSalmon13 right
And the weird media campaign to suppress, smear, and discredit him the last year or two has been verrrrry effective as well. Such a shame but I’m glad last year’s final run opened more people’s eyes to his brilliance and beautiful game
Just a thought here, but as a Lakers fan, I gotta try and find an answer to how to stop Jokic. Running the math on his game, I found keeping him on the perimeter and only giving him looks from 3 might be the key. With his overall efficiency numbers, he actually scores fewer points if all his shots are 3s, despite his percentage being very respectable from that range. Additionally, it will be more difficult for him to generate offensive rebounds and mismatches for team mates from there. With that said, I've long agreed with all the points you've made in this video and is truly one of the most impressive offensive players I've ever seen. His assist number going up, I feel, is a result of him getting a higher quality team around him over time, with Denver having been downright genius with their long-term roster building, resulting in more of his passes translating to made baskets.
He's just too disciplined and will just turn it into a handoff or post up.
Sure! That’s a smart strategy but:
1) who do yall have that can keep him from going wherever he wants to physically?
2) who do you have that can outsmart *and* outplay him to execute that? LBJ is smart enough but not big or durable enough to pound with Joker for 4 quarters, let alone 4-7 games
3) Joker would happily generate more offense for his boys than shoot anyway, which led to the whole “make Joker a shooter” strategy when he put up ~50 against the Suns last playoffs
I’m not saying they are unbeatable and certainly any strategy might work for a game, maybe even two but it remains to be seen who has the strategy and the personnel to outduel Jok and squad since last postseason but we’ll see!
I hope both of our teams stay heathy and have a great series! 🤝
It’s really remarkable what he’s doing and how many people are under appreciating it the man cannot be stopped.
I remember when he was about to win his first MVP, and me and a friend were talking about who was the best player and we spent over an hour trying to narrow it down and we were both kinda shocked we both ended up choosing Joker, and he’s just become even more polished since.
And Joker’s been battling a shooting hand wrist injury since last season and back pain, but still performing like this and taking hardly any time off. Imagine if he was healthy and/or if he got a decent whistle 🤯
He's retiring after this season. This too much 😢
@@resurrectedpanah, hes playing another max, no way hes turning down 400 mili over 5, in serbia with that kind of money hes hole family tree is set 4 ever
Hes got alot now, but another max will essentially double his carrer earnings, and he ll be 38, thats still very young in life
@@resurrectedpa the NBA won't let that happen even if jokic wants to. He is still young and can stay dominant for many years and fans started going around joker and denver, the NBA as a business won't let that opportunities go.
@@CoachYIF bro he's tired as hell and wants to play with his horses while spending time with the family. Idk man but yeah true
@@dariusdragomir9414 hmm then I hope he keeps winning 🙏🙏🙏
I always wanted to see someone who played center the way Magic did when he was subbed in for Kareem. Jokic does it. They might be beat for volume, but they are the two most magical passers in the history of the NBA.
For all you advanced stats nerds out there: Jokic has led the league 4 times in offensive box plus/minus. The only other players to do it more times than him: Jordan, LeBron, and Kareem.
Only player ever to total 2000/1000/500 in a season.. and he did it on 58% shooting. He was 20ish rebounds away from doing it again this year except it would have been 2000/1000/700
holy sht Jokic still growing and getting better is insane
And the first ever to lead the playoffs in points, rebounds, and assists
And he's # 1 all time in the Player Efficiency Ratings.
@@JVeleta11🤣😂😂🤣BOISTOP
@@casualfan-m5xWho's about to lose In the first round after winning a Championship.
Some people don’t want to have this conversation. The casual fan doesn’t like someone who can’t break someone’s ankles, dunks on someone, or shoots a 50 ft 3
I don't get them. Jokic's spins in the post and leave the defender behind are nasty and his passes are incredible.
jokers game is ugly. Efficient but ugly and he looks sloppy and out of shape. Call a spade a spade
@@starn9 has nothing to do with being good at basketball but go off
Awesome in-depth analysis of the Joker’s magic!
Title gave me a damn heart attack but i honestly respect this take
Why would it give you a heart attack? I think we are witnessing a peak only rivaled by shaq, Larry bird, and Michael Jordan.
The title is a fact, he passes like Magic, scores better than Bird, and rebounds like Hakeem
Jokic ' is # 1 all time in the Player Efficiency Ratings.
@@jacobwilson7301LeBron definitely peaked higher than Larry Bird lol what are you on
1a & 1b are Jordan and LeBron, 3 is Shaq
@@jacobwilson7301idk, I just feel like Jokic benefits from playing in the era of small ball and positionless basketball. Just look at the big men he has to go against vs the ones from the 90s and 2000s. Not saying he wouldn’t be a great player in any era, of course he would, but to me personally I can’t put him on the same level of MJ or Lebron yet because I think much of his insane stats have to do with the era he’s playing in.
Fascinating analysis. Good work.
Great video and as a Nugget and Jokic I agree. You did a good job not only presenting the stats, but digging deeper into the nuances of his game. Well done!!
He's not so be quiet
3:40 ayo wait can we actually talk about how Kawhi is GOATED asf in this graph? Like he’s so far ahead of every player it’s mind blowing
Been watching the league since the mid 80’s and I have to say joker is my third favorite center of all time only behind David Robinson and dream, Joker is by far my favorite player in the era for sure though.
great vid and analysis. speaking beyond simple/advanced statistics and splits, joker provides something special to any team he is playing for (Denver or Serbia). his personal traits (mainly modesty), high iq, unselfishness, carelessness on the board, leadership, etc... he makes whole squad much better, more focused, driven to win. Joker once will be one hell of a coach. i enjoyed watching NBA in 90s as most of fans, then stopped following it for over 20 years and now enjoying NBA once again thanks to Europeans - Joker, Luka, Yannis, Wemby, etc. Real thrill to watch it.
“When you mention Joke-itch”
Jock itch
Great video . Sound analysis. That joker dude is really unfathomable. The touches and average time comparison is insane. It’s been ages since I have seen this level of puppet mastery over such a long time span without anyone really having figured out an antidote
Great vid. I subbed. You not only made me love Jokic even more you reinforced my love of Sir Charles. Thanks.
He's up there,that's for sure
Strong, objective arguments LOWkić! W vid 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great video! A point that you passed through quickly deserves more attention… the fact that Jokic has such a high TS% is impressive, but his offensive rebounding and put backs make it even more insane. Many games Jokic will be something like 13-18 from the floor but of those 5 five missed shots, the dude had 3 put backs. Which is to say, if put backs were factored into TS% his numbers would dwarf everyone else
never seen a video so broken down to the facts of the greatness jokic brings to this sport🥹
Testify!!! Preach my brother! Spread the truth to the masses. It's hard to accept at first, especially for us "old heads" but I've been watching Denver religiously throughout his career and he's more than different. Way beyond just being a problem. Terms like "unguardable, & cheat code" get used extremely often. I've heard multiple: He's the most intelligent player ever. He sees the court like Gretzky saw the ice. The complete awareness is historically unmatched. & Never have so few calls gone to someone who gets hacked on like golf balls at the Driving Range. I'll save the rest for the book. 🤔😉
⛏️🏀🏆✌️...& Literally egoless.😵💫🤯🙀😲
I discovered your channel(s) a little over a month ago and I have to say, you surprise me and get me excited with every video you post. The amount of research and effort you put into them is staggering. Thank you for allowing your love of the game to fully bleed into your content. I appreciate the fact that you call out the idiotic takes and xenophobia, all while bringing attention to the finer things that most people don’t notice or realize. Your content is nothing short of amazing. Again, thanks man!
efficency is such an undervalued skill..... people marvel at a 50 point 40% fgp y game, but think a 20 point 100% fgp triple double is no big deal
Excellent, fully agree
This was an amazing video, props to you LOW. You said exactly what I was thinking about Jokic. And honestly? I think his efficiency and lack of turnovers makes him more valuable than guys with more points or more assists. Talk about making teammates better: you very clearly explained why he's getting easier looks for teammates.
Yawn Jokic stan
Man we done with the 2020s! Jokic was a literal farmer who just wanted to go home to his horses and only good because he played against a bunch of podcasters and sneaker heads, in a league with only 30 teams and maybe 5 good big men between them he got no comp
🤣🤣🤣
Lol,lol,lol.
@kris9145 Wow this straight hate😂u should be reported for these blasphemous words
If jokic was a brash black American, he would be mentioned in goat debates already
Tf u mean by dat?
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@@erindozinushi1997 can u not read
@@tomcustis9272
brash is what he isnt.
@@artvallejos1460 that’s my point.
He’s white, foreign and boring
6'11 Post demon!!
yeah he is!!!
Considering that Jokic is the first ofensive option, can do everything offensively and also can pass on the levels of Magic and LeBron he probably is up there in general offense, he is no lower than the 3rd spot.
no he is the best offense in history
nice presentation! quite persuasive.
Nice video. I wish ESPN would do analysis like this on the best players in the NBA. Wouldn't it be great in the last weeks of the NBA they did an in depth analysis of the top 5 mvp candidates?
Excellent content. Good work!
every time i watch Jokic plays all I do is laugh because what? Its so beautiful, unorthodox, poetry in motion!
Great summary of his game
Great job. Lots of years watching Basketball has brought me to the same conclusion.Dave Bing was my first Bb hero. Been watching critically since then. He is the most total pkg I’ve ever seen and that’s not considering his ability to raise his teammates abilities. Hes simply the best I’ve seen.
very nice editing, hope this can be a series to put into perspective how crazy this season is.
Great breakdown! I really appreciate that you go deep on the analytics and used relative true shooting to compare between eras. Also looking at where Jokic’s scoring clips compare to the league averages.
One thing I hope you consider for the future though. I think you may be confusing percentages and percentage points. So when Jokic is shooting, for example, 72% at the rim when the league average is 65%, he’s shooting 7 percentage points better than the league average not 7%. 7% better would be about 69.5% where as Jokic is shooting closer to 10% better. It’s minor I know, but just a quirk of percentages.
i love that basketball finally caught up to Baseball with the advanced analytics
Its also why baseball is at an all time low in popularity. But hey as long you have a made up statistic like War. I guess thats all that matters. Nothing personal I just hate what baseball has turned into.
@@lespaul1968 Except viewership isn't at an all-time low
@JSauer21 I said popularity of sport is all time low. 11 percent of fans said baseball is there favorite sport. It's clearly on the decline.
@@lespaul1968 Viewership has been up the last 3 years and Jokic brought fans back to the league. Also globally the NBA is more popular than ever. It's clearly on the incline
@JSauer21 talking baseball not nba
Our humble King Joker 🎉
LOW finally came out the basement 🔥🔥
LOW has been on the other channels, but hasn’t put anything on the main channel in awhile
I have waited 16 months for this video
excellent video what a breakdown well done👍👍👏👏👏
Legendary efficiency in scoring, amon the all-time best in passing (especially when including the time of posession), a dominant rebounder. What a combo. If he was a dominant shot blocker, he'd be going for the GOAT at this point
It's because he offends everyone who thinks he shouldn't be as good as he is, but he still keeps destroying everyone
Would love a video on the Knicks. It isn’t talked about enough how they went from the worst team in the league, to the 2 seed in 4 yrs. Just incredible love after incredible love.
Shoutout Peja
Wow i haven't seen that "manu to matt bonner" style pass from jokic, that was nice!
Low amma need that Kawhi video as soon as you can.. thank you..
Kawhi definitely deserves his 💐💯
U gotta show the playoff translation as well it’s the most important
Jokic is such a genius to be able to pad all those advanced stats at the same time. 🙂
Jokic has one, if not the most unstoppable offensive moves at his disposal, which is his post up.
Me personally wilt during his days when he became a playmaker was the greatest offensive player to ever touch a basketball court (Not skill related but production)
(Note assists weren’t tracked as freely in the 60s as the person you pass takes a single dribble you no longer get an assist)
He was still a scoring beast and could now effectively beat double teams
Basically getting rid of his biggest weakness of forced shots
And he could still go off for 60 any time while also being able to drop 20 assists at the same time.
And while he might not been as efficient as Jokic but truthfully I think we can all admit getting double and triple teamed every Time you touch the ball as wilt was does make scoring as effiecently as Jokic hard as well there wasn’t a 3 point line in the 60s so far less spacing allowed defense to double or triple team a lot without much of a disadvantage. And ofc lastly he averaged like some nonsense 10+offense rebounds per game that’s just unholy
And if we go by one’s career I’d take wilt over anyone
He showed he can drop 50 as easy as he can breathe
Drop 10-20 assist like it’s a walk in the park
Grab 20 offensive rebounds like it’s just another day at the office
I'm still taking playoff lebron and mj over everyone BUT jokic is right there
Bron is clutch in the playoffs. Did you see last year's WCF? He made every shot.
The one he got swept in? 😂
@@youtubeisassho8834Yeah Jokic made more shots
I think he’s talking about a younger LeBron and MJ
Lekaren is not a playoff clutch player hate to put some truth on your guy. The dude is 4-6 in the finals and has been swept more times than any player in history..
Definitely up there but he has some hard competition. Kobe, Curry, KD and of course Jordan
No, and the reason is simple. This era is easy to dominate. Jokic isn't the only one posting ridiculous stats.
The NBA is averaging the most points since the 1960's. Luka is putting up roughly a 35 point triple double. LeBron at 40 is posting the same type of stats he did at 25.
60 and 70 bombs dropped with regularity. Triple doubles are nothing.
Nothing against today's players. I'm one of the rare people who (smartly) believes all era's are roughly the same, talent wise.
The difference is 100% the rules.
I'd love to bring Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon and Shaq to this era and see what they do.
In short, Jokic is great and would be great in any era. That said, I think in the 90's, he's just be a 20-12-4 guy. Not a 26-12-9 guy.
First off, they didn't let bigs orchestrate offenses like that. The most they'd let bigs do is kick it in to big fella, and if he gets doubled, pass to an open shooter.
Secondly, there were more actual BIGS back then, and they could camp the paint.
Thirdly, the game was more physical. Stuff that gets called a foul now wasn't called then. Ticky tack stuff.
Give someone like Bird the freedom of movement (traveling, let's be real) that they have now. Give him the spacing. Let him orchestrate the offense (he was a brilliant passer) and Bird would average 35-12-10.
Easy.
Charles Barkley's Ts% with the amount of 3s he took is crazy
We all now should be 4 time mvp
It’s crazy when you look at his stats and forget he’s a 5, watching him is highly recommended.
You have to make videos of euroleague basketball. So much tough, defense based and not just 1v1 but significantly more team basketball, with good names like Kendrick Nunn, mike James, Facundo campazzo and so much more talent
he is and you are right.
Quality content❤
Mind you he’s doing this while never playing with an another all star or all nba player.
STOP IT!!! Everyone knows Jamal Murray is an All-Star and All-NBA caliber player who averaged 30ppg in the Playoffs last season.
@@AHMAD-2324people love to say that in the postseason then laugh at him during the All-Star voting. If Jamal is seen as so valuable, then who’s hyping him up for All NBA? Would he even be thought about for the Olympic team if he was from the U.S. ?
Cope all you want to but the post is all facts until yall stay consistent. People don’t even believe Joker is MVP worthy for two seasons straight but yall wanna claim Jamal is a honorary All Star… fooh
@@AHMAD-2324 Not really, Jemal Murry averages around 20 points a game, that puts him in top 40, he needs to be in top 24 to be an all star. He is close but not there yet. He can't be placed to be an all-star based on playoffs performances. And you can't say that Jokic plays with an all-star during the season, when Murry stats can't back it up.
@@Zemlja_je_ravna I'd much rather have a teammate who plays better in the playoffs when it matters most like Murray rather that one of the many other guys who put up big numbers in the regular season then dissappear in the playoffs lol
I’d say Wemby has potential to be the jokic stopper
Awesome stuff dude ty ❤
Should be going for his 4th MVP and everybody knows it.
Very good analisis
The time handling the ball, being one-half of other greats or any average, is the greatest stat.
Think about that, the results he gets and the great numbers are being accomplished with having the ball one-half of the time. That's mind-blowing; nobody comes close to him at any time. Johik is changing the game; he is rewriting how it is played. He spends half the time touching the ball to get ultra-higher numbers. 😮
This video is about to age like milk
You sure?
@@adripos No I am not lol. I'm big enough to admit I may have spoken too soon.
10/10 thumbnail.
Check out what a De-esser is, it will do wonders for your audio. nice video 👍
My issue with relative true shooting was always that it's a difference rather than a quotient, which is a better representation of their actual relativity to the league. I've run some numbers for this btw
Great video 😎
I don't like the narrative that goes like "the best passing big man". He is not a passer. Passing is just one way of punishing defensive mistakes. If you leave someone wide open, if you ignore a cutter, of course he is gonna get that easy field goal. The funniest part is that when playoff time comes, Jokic increases his PPG by 4-5 while keeping all the assist, rebound, and efficiency numbers. And also he starts to hit 46% from 3 because he can. They are giving him MVP for his regular season greatness but it isn't even Jokic's best form. Watch him in playoffs. He is making history.
Best passing big man is not a misnomer. It's not disparaging at all
Hes definetly in the conversation. Anyone think he better offensively than curry, jordan, kobe, or lebron?
Damn good video
A big difference between Jokic and Magic/Stockton/Kidd/Paul when it comes to his ast numbers.
His level of responsibility is double or triple to that of his predecessors. He has to be the number scoring option giving you 25-35 a night, the best rebounder, run the entire teams offense and facilitate. None of those other guys averaging 10+ ast a game had to do half of that. They were able to sit back most of the time, facilitate and run the offense and score when they had to.
We've never seen someone have that level of responsibility other then MAYBE 2018 Lebron
I'm a dominant player fan who doesn't want to see players who are just built different wreck the league
That 2016 was crazy. Shouts to curry