CORRECTION: 10:46 Little Four Winds and Big Four Winds are limited hands per Mahjong Wikidot variations 1 and 2 mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-scoring.
This makes me so happy I know how to play NMJL but I don't enjoy it, I play multiple Asian styles and it makes me so happy that non Asian people are learning and teaching Hong Kong Mahjong
I learned to play using the Japanese Tournament Rules book, and then, after some years, got a game to play on the computer, and I love it. I've played with Taiwan Naval Officers who never even looked at their tiles before discarding. How to pay the winner is a puzzle to me, and the computer game figures that out. Thanks for the explanation about that. I will study it more.
@@MAHJLIFE Yes I have, but I though I know the rules I have no clue how to set up a hand so that's what I hope to learn from your lessons, so far so good!
I love your videos! I am able to follow the game. I have recently joined a local group here in Tucson, AZ but I get easily intimidated by the players, your videos gave me confidence on how to play the mahjong. Some of the scoring or I would say the hand that they have are a little confusing, so I may have to do more research. :) Thank you again for all the resources you have created!
Michele Frizzell I do. But all of them. A friend and I were a little confused on some of the description that they have. I wonder if I can send you a copy and maybe you can help me understand what it means?
I am so glad I found you I bought a beautiful mahjong set from a thrift store not even opened. At first I thought I knew why I would never know how to play but lucky for me I now have easy lessons to learn thank you so much
Here is a link to a great wiki mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-overview. Here is a link to the player reference for scoring and brief rules that can be used while playing.
To enjoy the game Ma Jong just to past time, novice players can just play to win a hand at a time, and simply score a single "fan" with a winning hand. Simple scoring for this version of the game would be that one with the most "fans" at the end of the evening is the winner. However, for the more serious and veteran players, the complex award of additional "fans" per hand would be considered as an another version of the game. In another words, to get introduced to the game of Ma Jong, do not first get obsessed on "fans'" values as you play out a hand. As you get proficient in the game, one would want to gather the most / max out the "fans" potential as you try to win out with a hand.
There are so many versions of this game. (Cantonese, Mandarin?, American? American style?..I'm sure there are more. lol) But my questions are: 1) In a nutshell....how different are these games from one-another? 2) Which is the easiest? 3) Which is the most popular? 4) Which one has the wind-direction dice thingy? (I've seen some games on youtube that have it and some don't. I bought a game and the instructions are in CHINESE!!!! lol. So I'm at RUclips's mercy. So far, so confused. Except thank god I found your channel. I'm trying to find your "Beginner videos" but there aren't any labeled that way. With so many baby boomers retiring...I'm predicting your channel will grow. 👍 p.s. I prefer the handling and feel of the larger chunky tiles. Those are Chinese Mandarin style or Cantonese style? Which are they?
1) At the most basic level, Asian versions are similar to Rummy where you need 4 sets and a pair. The sets can be 3 in a sequence (chow), 3 of a kind (pung), or a 4 of a kind (kong). American style using National Mah Jongg League rules is completely different than Asian versions. This version uses the same tiles but they add 8 jokers to the mix and it's a game of multiples (i.e., pairs, pungs, kongs, quints). 2) The easiest style to learn is Hong Kong Mahjong. 3) The most popular style played in the United States is American style using the National Mah Jongg League rules. 4) Asian versions are played in rounds. For example, Hong Kong style has a round for East, South, West, and North where each player has a chance to play as the dealer for each round. Here is a link to a player reference that includes basic instructions and Hong Kong scoring goo.gl/1YfzND The chunky tiles are typically used in Asian versions. All Asian versions are based on Cantonese style with the exception of Japanese style, also known as Riichi. What differentiates the Cantonese games is the scoring. Here is a link to a mahjong wiki if you want details mahjong.wikidot.com/index:main
Thanks for the reference video! Your current version of this reference sheet has a different scoring method. Is there a way to download the one used in this video with the scoring sticks? Thank you!
There are three versions for Hong Kong Old Style mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-scoring. I used a different one when this video was filmed. The game is the same with a slight difference for special hands.
I simply learned it by holding a compass over my head instead of below it. Chinese compass directions are as if you're looking up at the sky, not down at a map.
C means that you cannot claim a discard to complete any block until the hand is ready to win. When you are ready to win, a discard can be claimed to declare mahjong. X means that you can claim a discard to complete any of the blocks in the hand.
If you send me an email I can send you a sampler with what comes in the lesson kit. What's most helpful is the lesson plan and the quick reference cards which is shown in this video.
I've been searching for 2 days for info on being able to take from someone else's kong! Of course this is where I would find it! Are there any circumstances when robbing a kong is allowed OTHER than to declase mahjong?
Hi, Michele. Christine Whitman directed me to your site. She had wonderful things to say about you, and now I can see why. I am a new player starting with HK, and I have three questions about the 2019 HK Quick Reference Card. Would you help me understand: (1) Payout Chart - On a Zero Fan hand, why would the self-pick payout be zero when the discard payout is 4? Shouldn’t self-pick be more than the discard payout? (2) Special Hands - Why is Little Four Winds 10 Fan when Little Three Dragons is 4 Fan? I would have guessed that they would be the same. (3) Winning Tiles - Do you get 1 fan for self-draw in addition to doubling the payout rate? Thanks, Amy in Charlotte
Your eagle-eye caught an ommission... thank you! (1) Payout Chart, on a Zero Fan hand, why would the self-pick payout be zero when the discard payout is 4; Shouldn’t self-pick be more than the discard payout? [mf] Since self-drawn win is 1 fan, 0 fan doesn't apply. I did not have that row on the player reference which has now been updated. (2) Special Hands, why is Little Four Winds 10 Fan when Little Three Dragons is 4 Fan? I would have guessed that they would be the same. [mf] Little Four winds has 3 pungs where Little Three Dragons has only two pungs. (3) Winning Tiles, you get 1 fan for self-draw in addition to doubling the payout rate? [mf] Yes. New HKOS Quick Reference: bit.ly/2plr2c2 Source: mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-scoring Variation 1
So sorry about that... this was filmed when I launched my channel in 2017 - I didn't have a mic nor lighting. I have learned much since then and will be re-filming these lessons very soon.
CORRECTION: 10:46 Little Four Winds and Big Four Winds are limited hands per Mahjong Wikidot variations 1 and 2 mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-scoring.
This makes me so happy I know how to play NMJL but I don't enjoy it, I play multiple Asian styles and it makes me so happy that non Asian people are learning and teaching Hong Kong Mahjong
I learned to play using the Japanese Tournament Rules book, and then, after some years, got a game to play on the computer, and I love it. I've played with Taiwan Naval Officers who never even looked at their tiles before discarding. How to pay the winner is a puzzle to me, and the computer game figures that out. Thanks for the explanation about that. I will study it more.
Hong Kong scoring is similar to Taiwanese so, besides having 4 sets instead of 5, it's the same game.
Over time, you learn to feel what the tile is.
Free and high quality material, really helps me, thanks!
Have you played at Mahjong Time yet? It's a great way to practice what I show in the video lessons.
@@MAHJLIFE Yes I have, but I though I know the rules I have no clue how to set up a hand so that's what I hope to learn from your lessons, so far so good!
I love your videos! I am able to follow the game. I have recently joined a local group here in Tucson, AZ but I get easily intimidated by the players, your videos gave me confidence on how to play the mahjong. Some of the scoring or I would say the hand that they have are a little confusing, so I may have to do more research. :) Thank you again for all the resources you have created!
Welcome to the game! They may be playing a different version of scoring. Do you see the scoring they use here mahjong.wikidot.com/
Michele Frizzell I do. But all of them. A friend and I were a little confused on some of the description that they have. I wonder if I can send you a copy and maybe you can help me understand what it means?
Here is a link to the quick referecence: bit.ly/30ZBzrM
Michele Frizzell thank you Michele!
I am so glad I found you I bought a beautiful mahjong set from a thrift store not even opened. At first I thought I knew why I would never know how to play but lucky for me I now have easy lessons to learn thank you so much
Thanks. I really am intrigued with Maj Jong and wish to become proficient. The PDF will be a big assist!
Here is a link to a great wiki mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-overview. Here is a link to the player reference for scoring and brief rules that can be used while playing.
Where is the PDF? Thanks for the video as it was very informative. You are a fabulous teacher!
Thanks, Susan! You can find the PDF in the video description or on my website at mahjongcentral.com/styles
To enjoy the game Ma Jong just to past time, novice players can just play to win a hand at a time, and simply score a single "fan" with a winning hand. Simple scoring for this version of the game would be that one with the most "fans" at the end of the evening is the winner. However, for the more serious and veteran players, the complex award of additional "fans" per hand would be considered as an another version of the game. In another words, to get introduced to the game of Ma Jong, do not first get obsessed on "fans'" values as you play out a hand. As you get proficient in the game, one would want to gather the most / max out the "fans" potential as you try to win out with a hand.
This is a nice option for new players to learn the fundamentals of the game :)
There are so many versions of this game. (Cantonese, Mandarin?, American? American style?..I'm sure there are more. lol) But my questions are:
1) In a nutshell....how different are these games from one-another?
2) Which is the easiest?
3) Which is the most popular?
4) Which one has the wind-direction dice thingy? (I've seen some games on youtube that have it and some don't.
I bought a game and the instructions are in CHINESE!!!! lol. So I'm at RUclips's mercy. So far, so confused. Except thank god I found your channel. I'm trying to find your "Beginner videos" but there aren't any labeled that way. With so many baby boomers retiring...I'm predicting your channel will grow. 👍
p.s. I prefer the handling and feel of the larger chunky tiles. Those are Chinese Mandarin style or Cantonese style? Which are they?
1) At the most basic level, Asian versions are similar to Rummy where you need 4 sets and a pair. The sets can be 3 in a sequence (chow), 3 of a kind (pung), or a 4 of a kind (kong). American style using National Mah Jongg League rules is completely different than Asian versions. This version uses the same tiles but they add 8 jokers to the mix and it's a game of multiples (i.e., pairs, pungs, kongs, quints).
2) The easiest style to learn is Hong Kong Mahjong.
3) The most popular style played in the United States is American style using the National Mah Jongg League rules.
4) Asian versions are played in rounds. For example, Hong Kong style has a round for East, South, West, and North where each player has a chance to play as the dealer for each round.
Here is a link to a player reference that includes basic instructions and Hong Kong scoring goo.gl/1YfzND
The chunky tiles are typically used in Asian versions.
All Asian versions are based on Cantonese style with the exception of Japanese style, also known as Riichi. What differentiates the Cantonese games is the scoring. Here is a link to a mahjong wiki if you want details mahjong.wikidot.com/index:main
Thank you! You are incredibly kind to have answered all of my questions and then some. 🤗 👍
Thanks for the reference video! Your current version of this reference sheet has a different scoring method. Is there a way to download the one used in this video with the scoring sticks? Thank you!
There are three versions for Hong Kong Old Style mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-scoring. I used a different one when this video was filmed. The game is the same with a slight difference for special hands.
How about Eat Soup With Noodles? 😀
That works too but Eat Soup with Nuts is silly and that's the way my mom taught me :)
I simply learned it by holding a compass over my head instead of below it. Chinese compass directions are as if you're looking up at the sky, not down at a map.
how many chips/payout does each player start out with?
The bank roll is 75k; 2 10k sticks, 9 5k sticks, 9 1k sticks, and 10 100 sticks.
What do the "c" and "x" mean in the far column of the special hands page
C means that you cannot claim a discard to complete any block until the hand is ready to win. When you are ready to win, a discard can be claimed to declare mahjong. X means that you can claim a discard to complete any of the blocks in the hand.
Sylvia. What is that game address that you play on line? Is it Hong Kong?
I play at Mahjong Time goo.gl/UQmWQU
Is this what I’m going to get? I ordered something from you last week. Got my Hong Kong tiles.
If you send me an email I can send you a sampler with what comes in the lesson kit. What's most helpful is the lesson plan and the quick reference cards which is shown in this video.
Very helpful. Thank you!
Happy to share! If you have questions, post them in the comment section under the videos.
In the newer quick reference, there is a typo in the first line of "Payout by discard". It should be 1+1+2=4
Thanks for pointing out that error :}
I've been searching for 2 days for info on being able to take from someone else's kong! Of course this is where I would find it! Are there any circumstances when robbing a kong is allowed OTHER than to declase mahjong?
Correct. Robbing a kong is only for a win and the timing has to be precise.
Has the link to the PDF been removed, I don't see it?
HKOS Quick Reference: goo.gl/4P9d5L
Thank you
Happy to help! If you didn't see the link under the video, here is the Quick Reference PDF goo.gl/7ci9ik
Hi, Michele. Christine Whitman directed me to your site. She had wonderful things to say about you, and now I can see why. I am a new player starting with HK, and I have three questions about the 2019 HK Quick Reference Card. Would you help me understand: (1) Payout Chart - On a Zero Fan hand, why would the self-pick payout be zero when the discard payout is 4? Shouldn’t self-pick be more than the discard payout? (2) Special Hands - Why is Little Four Winds 10 Fan when Little Three Dragons is 4 Fan? I would have guessed that they would be the same. (3) Winning Tiles - Do you get 1 fan for self-draw in addition to doubling the payout rate? Thanks, Amy in Charlotte
Your eagle-eye caught an ommission... thank you!
(1) Payout Chart, on a Zero Fan hand, why would the self-pick payout be zero when the discard payout is 4; Shouldn’t self-pick be more than the discard payout? [mf] Since self-drawn win is 1 fan, 0 fan doesn't apply. I did not have that row on the player reference which has now been updated.
(2) Special Hands, why is Little Four Winds 10 Fan when Little Three Dragons is 4 Fan? I would have guessed that they would be the same. [mf] Little Four winds has 3 pungs where Little Three Dragons has only two pungs.
(3) Winning Tiles, you get 1 fan for self-draw in addition to doubling the payout rate? [mf] Yes.
New HKOS Quick Reference: bit.ly/2plr2c2
Source: mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:hong-kong-old-style-scoring Variation 1
where is the quick reference pdf?
Here is a direct link goo.gl/M75wYS
you need to record with a microphone next time. It's a little difficult to hear you.
So sorry about that... this was filmed when I launched my channel in 2017 - I didn't have a mic nor lighting. I have learned much since then and will be re-filming these lessons very soon.
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