They need to stop protecting criminals and prioritizing their interests over justice. No one is worth sacrificing your integrity family and reputation to defend someone who acted recklessly and took an innocent life.
Noah's family must be louder and they should bypass the local authorities and directly appeal to the district attorney they should go straight to the top and use every platform to make noise. Local authorities want silence but the family must demand the truth.
@@kristadudley9030 I'm not sure if that's accurate. The FBI is involved, but they're only providing resources and support. They're not leading the investigation.
My Theory. I believe Noah was targeted from the start. He felt threatened and he likely started walking away. That's when they brutalized him beating him to death and then placed Noah's body on the side of the road in a panic attempt to conceal their crime.
Absolutely 100%. They thought he was too Cocky and Noah thought he was a ladies man and they got tired of hearing his self conceitedness and why would they beat him worse than any person, for that? Thats 0 morality, 0. A cold dark dark heart with no sympathy which defines a narcissist. Anyone who participated. I pray daily for someone to get an ounce of remorse and confess to the police.
For a teenager to walk off without his brand new phone is hard to believe. Kids will go to war over their phone. One of the reasons I think he was took to the highway.
This is so sad in the most gruesome pathetic autopsy I’ve heard of. No way did a car hit him in a vehicle. Where are the skid marks on the road of the driver slamming on the breaks? I’ve been a passenger in the back seat of a BMW that a deer crossed in front of us. OMG I had PTSD for months, even if it’s an animal not a person. No car parts on the road.? Hmmm 🤔 no paint or medal on his body? No way no how. Are the police looking for a driver? It has to be a local who knows that off the beaten road where he was found. This is so outrageous. I don’t know how someone killed Noah, whether it be hit and run or beat to death, they have got to be reliving that scene and have remorse. This long and no one confessing has to be a monster. Please please please open the investigation on this for a more in-debt report. Did Investigators go to house and touch any car hoods to see if any cars were warm? Would have meant someone was out and about that time of morning. And blood on 4Runner? I’m sure one was warm from the party. Did they check blood drops on everyone’s shoes? Scratches scapes black eyes? All the police need to start with is, make a time line of who said what, then do another question on all that was there. Compare to lies, different stories, etc. then you explore all social media. But get proof this was not an accident it’s homicide! 😢😢
The family needs to stop being so nice and apply more pressure on the authorities. They should escalate the case to a higher level like the district attorney. Don't remain silent share Noah's story on various platforms.
It’s in a town of like 1200 ppl well Terrell has only a couple hundred people. If the “authorities” are covering it up then the district attorney is also involved their offices are all in the same building
Poor Noah 😢Praying they r caught.His autopsy really is hard to think any one human could do something so horrible..Gods got Noah🙏To the ones that took his BEAUTIFUL life..just know u will have to answer oneday.JUSTICE for Noah🙏❤️
Apparently the ME was never at the scene and also didn't view the body until the next day. Is that unusual? Would an ME show up even if it's a holiday? Would that effect the report? Also I noticed in the autopsy there were not a lot of measurements with the wound descriptions..
@@moeB0704 You understand my point? It doesn't matter how big someone is if the blood alcohol content is being measured. It's measuring a level, not drinks.
There are 2 native Americans serving in the House of Representatives in Oklahoma. Rep Cole & Rep Mullins. One of them serves on the board of Indian Affairs. Noah looks half Native American. Write to them. Worth a try.
Being a TEXAS girl I have known many to get hurt/pass on ATV's. I am no professional but due to the injuries it sounds like he was killed in the ATV accident and the underage drunk teenagers/parents responsible for the party tried to cover it up in a panic. So sad for his family and as a mother of a son it hurts my heart and freaks me out that this could happen. Hope his family gets answers and can find peace in the truth.
@@mistiroberts1576 In ATV accidents you can literally fly off and land on your head and try to brace yourself with your arms and have no leg injury so not sure what your comment means?
There is a picture floating around where I believe a 2x4 board is laying on the ground in front of the porch. Could this have been something that was used?
Seems likely he was killed by party attendees and moved to that location. The party house floors had just been bleached when people arrived at the house after the body was found. Murder. Very sad. Prayers for the family. May justice prevail.
So many questions as I listen to it. If the body was moved, it was moved shortly after death. What time frame would that be, minutes? What are the signs that indicate a body was moved that are missing? He sustained all the injuries when he was alive but the head injury would have killed him very fast. So would a beating be indeed possible considering the time frame? Could the lack of blood be attributed to dying very fast? The injuries are part of a single event but she believes he was dragged. And if he was dragged while not conscious but alive shouldn’t the road be covered in blood? The unusual shaped abrasions have a pattern that you see throughout the body, correct? I learned a lot but I’m also very confused.
You have about 45 minutes before lividity sets in. His was on his back side (posterior) of his body which means when his heart stopped and for the next 45 minutes or so, he was in the prone position, not on his side.
Some things not being mentioned here is that his friend JN sold his side by side after this. There goes any possible evidence. The house the party took place in is on tribal land so they did not have to allow them to search it. And the house is allegedly going to be demolished since there is a permit for that to take place. There is a crime here. Even if the only crime is not reporting an accident. I hope continued pressure further drives an investigation by someone other than local LE. #justiceforNoah
Underage drunk kid was probly taken to someones machine shop straight out of the shower, folded shorts they probly could not put them on body out of time like cop rolling up or rigamortis prevented someone from getting shorts on..
I think he was riding in the back of a speeding lift truck. The driver was heavily intoxicated, NP was heavily intoxicated. Their could have been a 2nd lift truck speeding, maybe playing chicken and one or both slammed on their brakes and he flew, his head hit the front bumper and then slid under the front and was dragged a couple hundred feet. Or could have been chased and he fell out backwards and was drug a little bit.
What about falling off the back of a pick up truck? My ex boyfriend’s brother was killed this way and had similar injuries to Noah, top of head broken neck bones extremely high on the spine, like a hanging. Could this be? Also I heard if he was lying asleep on side of road head first, a trucks tire hit him fast and quick? Any thoughts
Especially the phone, which his family says was a new iphone that he was a prized possession. Besides, no teenager would walk off without their phone, no matter how drunk.
Small Town, Slow Moving, Good Ol Boy Mentality Policing! Sorry, but get other agencies involved that are able to throw resources at solving and prosecuting this! The World is Watching and to me, the local authorities are OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE!!!!! IJS. SMRM #justicefornoah
Jodi has over 30 years of experience in law enforcement and investigations throughout the U.S. and Canada. She was the first female CSI for the Illinois Dept. of Law Enforcement as well being the Det. Division Commander and was the deputy coroner and has worked with medical examiners for years on over 200 death investigations.
I just wanted to say that I meant no offense. But, you clearly failed to read the description of the video, as well as the comment he made. I have no doubt in my mind that she’s an expert in her field. But she’s not an M.E. She seems like a lovely woman. Doesn’t make her an M.E. 🤷🏻♀️
Injury looks similar to the butt of a rifle. I don’t see a 19 year old walking off without his phone. If he did he was under distress. Something happened to leave his phone and not take time to have his own shoes.
Description of injuries - Sounds like the butt of a rifle and a bashing him with overkill anger. Someone really had this beating coming to him. Almost like a rage anger attack. Brutally wanted to shut Noah up. -Someone really bashed him repeatedly with an overkill obsession. Jealousy or something, didn’t want him around their girlfriend. 🤔 Been watching case videos in Sickening horror, very disturbing and heartbreaking 😢 brutal death. I wouldn’t rule someone who behaved like his friend but was secretly Obsessed with him. Couldn’t handle their feelings of jealousy, charisma success. Someone really wanted him gone. ( “stay away from my girlfriend attack” from a jealous boyfriend ??) 🤔
Ok so just to understand a little better. Is she saying he was hurt somewhere else and placed there after death? Just want to make sure I’m understanding correctly.
Was the truck driver and service truck from that town ? Are these drivers friends with any of the people At party house ? Why assume at crime scene and not investigate? There could of been anougher body out in field or house..why no FBI press conference? Why no time of death on audtopsey? Why no charges for contributing to underage that led to his death? Was the black substance come from a shop or tailgate, railroad track? Machinery like on a service truck tow truck? Why no dogs on body dump scene to look for original crime scene site?
Probably because the Me didn't go to the scene and do a core temperature check. He didn't even see Noah for 24 hours. Doesn't work on holidays I guess. Smh.
At least they didn’t throw his body in the water, 100 miles away. But they are dumb stupid teenagers that think they one upped the police, state troopers and Medical Examiner. Did the ME talk to any of the kids? Should have. That’s usually part of an investigation. But it’s like all LEO’s were Barney Five. Duhhh Gun with no bullets. Acting like hillbillies makes me so mad.
@@AnnoyedMommaHere no one knows for sure. It was someone’s guess. I’m not saying that it was used or confirming anything. I don’t know anyone involved in this case. I don’t even live there. I just saw someone who commented say it looks like an ax & it does. It’s a FB group called Noah Pregroves Army! So many people are looking for justice.
@@EJam3241that’s why we think it’s a wood club. Or the butt of that rifle, unloaded and swung it like a bat or club. Because it had a down and up lift to the front wound.
Oklahoma and others, consider posting a gofundme reward for the arrest of who killed Noah, money talks, it will encourage someone to present the truth if they know they have enough money to leave town afterwards for their safety. Post reward create gofundme, for justice for Noah and to save the life of the next kid looking for a party . If Noah chose not to show up that night who would of been found on highway ? Clearly not someone related is my guess. My opinion. Noah would of been a Brave fearless soldier for the USA if someone did not Robb him of his life. ⚖🤦♂️🐾🐾🦮🐾🐾✝️✝️✝️💰☎️
@@raincadeify kaden has said himself in statement that noah took his shoe,when he also said jack was awake at 3 and jack burst in the house at 515 telling everyone noah was dead,then kaden could only find 1 shoe ,he stated the hey dude was his
So much of the stories coming from the people at the party don't add up to the point it's logically all lies! Like.... let's throw some mud at the wall and see what sticks? LOL
@@partnersintruecrimepodcast I really liked her,yeah I wasn't sure I thought she said could be moved but within a short time .man really tough listening to the amount of injuries
@@Victor-cr5rryea I mean it’s simple he was probably beat to death then took to the highway and tossed out of moving vehicle right after they was for sure he was dead.
Yes with a short time. Considering a kid at the party said he saw Noah alive at 3:00am and then the same kid says he saw him dead on the road around 5:30am that’s a pretty short window. He has liver mortis on his posterior but the brother said he was lying in his right side. So much happened at crime scene hard to tell.
@@hogleg8103 yeah that's what I think happened, but is there enough to arrest and who are group did this,we know jack passed polygraph, would you still charge jack?
Not trying to come off harsh or insensitive ,but I swear I read on the autopsy his man parts were swollen or bruised, but then I went back to try and find it and kinda skimmed over it. Maybe I missed it, but has anyone else read that? And if so what would cause that? Also, both his shoulders were broken and I haven’t heard any speak on that ( well experts) what would be the cause for that and has anyone else ever heard that in other crimes? I watch a lot of crime shows, RUclips and podcasts and have never heard of anyone shoulders being broke. If I’m wrong in any of this please correct me.
@@Tuck303 The shoulder blades. I didn't read anything about genitals being injured. They were listed as normal and "unremarkable". I did wonder if they checked for sexual assault but it wasn't mentioned in the report, so I guess not. Not impressed by the ME who did the autopsy.
@@raincadeify I swear I read where the genitals were swollen cause I remember looking at my daughter and saying, “I wonder if they kicked him down there” If u didn’t see it then I must be thinking of something else. I think they did take swabs of everything… that is if I read it correctly. As time goes on and I read the facebook stuff I could be getting things mixed up between stuff being posted there, RUclips ,tiktok and the autopsy.
@@raincadeify I found it… “there was drying artifact of the scrotum” is what it said. When I looked it up it on Google it stated that it could be from the sun or could be mistaken for an injury, so that’s probably where I got injury from.
@@Tuck303 I get you, me too on how confusing it is and with the different sources and the timeline shifting and all the many players. I have to go back and check things all the time. I came into this in the middle and just now starting to look at a few social media posts. One thing I thought was, if they found him butt naked and beat up it seems a no brainer to test for sexual assault, but there's no mention of a rape kit being done. Also, the ME didn't go and see the body on the road, and there seems to have been no effort to establish time of death with core temperature, which would follow if he didn't even see the body until the next work day, Monday. My thought is they don't really know how to investigate a murder in general and certainly not one this unusual, so they assumed it was a hit and run. When the ME got the call, probably on Sunday, he was told it was a traffic accident and he didn't think there was any reason to roll out on a weekend, which nothing but lazy imo. Also, it's not clear if there were some calls being made by interested parties encouraging the hit and run theory. If it weren't for the extensive injuries and the flurry of social media posts and the whole town being abuzz, it would have been case closed imo.
There has been a couple mediums (I believe that’s what you call them) said two guys and a girl drove looking for him out of anger and stopped when they seen him and then decided to shift gears and knock him down. The medium said Noah was asking them to call ambulance cause his ribs and back and he was sorry and wouldn’t tell anyone but they didn’t call. The medium said it was his friends that were angry over a girl. They pulled out an iron and he begged no and I thought we are homies and the guy struck him several times. The girl stayed in vehicle. Said the vehicle was greenish colored. Not sure if truck or car she said. If this was true, my god it would be a close friend of his. How sad! Anyways you can listen to these police psychics and seems to match the injuries. ruclips.net/video/L89Nd-O2fNQ/видео.htmlsi=X28UgyjUSbEsVglV
Thank you for hosting and sharing this informative video. The family and true friends deserve answers. #JusticeForNoahPresgrove
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They need to stop protecting criminals and prioritizing their interests over justice. No one is worth sacrificing your integrity family and reputation to defend someone who acted recklessly and took an innocent life.
Noah's family must be louder and they should bypass the local authorities and directly appeal to the district attorney they should go straight to the top and use every platform to make noise. Local authorities want silence but the family must demand the truth.
The FBI has now taken the lead in this.
@@kristadudley9030 I'm not sure if that's accurate. The FBI is involved, but they're only providing resources and support. They're not leading the investigation.
@@kristadudley9030I pray that the authorities are honest and transparent in their handling of the case.
@@kristadudley9030 The FBI is involved, but they're only providing resources and support. They're not leading the investigation.
@@kristadudley9030 Unless this has happened in the past 24 hours, the family has clarified that the FBI is assisting, not taken the lead role.
My Theory. I believe Noah was targeted from the start. He felt threatened and he likely started walking away. That's when they brutalized him beating him to death and then placed Noah's body on the side of the road in a panic attempt to conceal their crime.
Absolutely 100%. They thought he was too Cocky and Noah thought he was a ladies man and they got tired of hearing his self conceitedness and why would they beat him worse than any person, for that? Thats 0 morality, 0. A cold dark dark heart with no sympathy which defines a narcissist. Anyone who participated. I pray daily for someone to get an ounce of remorse and confess to the police.
That "fish" look like a head of a golf club ...
@@tatianapavel9858 perfect print of golf swing of a wood, or iron.
For a teenager to walk off without his brand new phone is hard to believe. Kids will go to war over their phone. One of the reasons I think he was took to the highway.
@@jamiebishop129 100%
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Absolutely 💯 percent if your shorts get taken off by impact your shoes would also be off
They were denied access to house by owner ,now i didnt know if they tried to get a warrant, the body was found a mile away from house
My husband and I both believe that this is murder! Pray for the family and the horrible truth of the medical release.
The best friends dad ended up with shirt , and some teeth wouldnt that be forensic evidence. Why was he not charged
Apparently they have ties to LE locally..
@@raincadeify So sad they can be this evil to protect someone!
This is so sad in the most gruesome pathetic autopsy I’ve heard of. No way did a car hit him in a vehicle. Where are the skid marks on the road of the driver slamming on the breaks? I’ve been a passenger in the back seat of a BMW that a deer crossed in front of us. OMG I had PTSD for months, even if it’s an animal not a person. No car parts on the road.? Hmmm 🤔 no paint or medal on his body? No way no how. Are the police looking for a driver? It has to be a local who knows that off the beaten road where he was found. This is so outrageous. I don’t know how someone killed Noah, whether it be hit and run or beat to death, they have got to be reliving that scene and have remorse. This long and no one confessing has to be a monster. Please please please open the investigation on this for a more in-debt report. Did Investigators go to house and touch any car hoods to see if any cars were warm? Would have meant someone was out and about that time of morning. And blood on 4Runner? I’m sure one was warm from the party. Did they check blood drops on everyone’s shoes? Scratches scapes black eyes? All the police need to start with is, make a time line of who said what, then do another question on all that was there. Compare to lies, different stories, etc. then you explore all social media. But get proof this was not an accident it’s homicide! 😢😢
The family needs to stop being so nice and apply more pressure on the authorities. They should escalate the case to a higher level like the district attorney. Don't remain silent share Noah's story on various platforms.
You have stated this repeatedly.
It’s in a town of like 1200 ppl well Terrell has only a couple hundred people. If the “authorities” are covering it up then the district attorney is also involved their offices are all in the same building
@@hogleg8103 More media coverage that would help!
@@hogleg8103 More media coverage
The FBI is involved and they’ve hired a PI, they’ve been in podcasts and have a Facebook page …. What else can they do?
Poor Noah 😢Praying they r caught.His autopsy really is hard to think any one human could do something so horrible..Gods got Noah🙏To the ones that took his BEAUTIFUL life..just know u will have to answer oneday.JUSTICE for Noah🙏❤️
Apparently the ME was never at the scene and also didn't view the body until the next day. Is that unusual? Would an ME show up even if it's a holiday? Would that effect the report? Also I noticed in the autopsy there were not a lot of measurements with the wound descriptions..
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I keep hearing knocked out of his shorts, but an accident wouldn't fold his shorts! Or did I miss that?
He was drinking but thats only 6 drinks for his size, not stumbling drunk. They refused voluntary search.
His blood alcohol was .14, that's a lot of drinking...
@@raincadeify with a .14 and his size it might be 6-8 beers possibly.
@@moeB0704 You understand my point? It doesn't matter how big someone is if the blood alcohol content is being measured. It's measuring a level, not drinks.
There are 2 native Americans serving in the House of Representatives in Oklahoma. Rep Cole & Rep Mullins. One of them serves on the board of Indian Affairs. Noah looks half Native American. Write to them. Worth a try.
Truck driver was an escort or companion truck for the semi. His co worker in the truck turned around to rejoin him.
Alina Burrows ruled out hit and run because she said the pelvis, femurs, and/or ankles would be broken.
I want to know if they tested the black substance/material on his back!
Wouldn't an ME know by sight if material was asphalt, blacktop? A while ago someone suggested black rubber inlay on golf clubs.
Right? The ME seems pretty lazy. That could tell where he was when that happened. Was it gravel? Dirt? Asphalt?
Being a TEXAS girl I have known many to get hurt/pass on ATV's. I am no professional but due to the injuries it sounds like he was killed in the ATV accident and the underage drunk teenagers/parents responsible for the party tried to cover it up in a panic. So sad for his family and as a mother of a son it hurts my heart and freaks me out that this could happen. Hope his family gets answers and can find peace in the truth.
But there were no injuries to his legs
@@mistiroberts1576 In ATV accidents you can literally fly off and land on your head and try to brace yourself with your arms and have no leg injury so not sure what your comment means?
There is a picture floating around where I believe a 2x4 board is laying on the ground in front of the porch. Could this have been something that was used?
Seems likely he was killed by party attendees and moved to that location. The party house floors had just been bleached when people arrived at the house after the body was found. Murder. Very sad. Prayers for the family. May justice prevail.
So many questions as I listen to it. If the body was moved, it was moved shortly after death. What time frame would that be, minutes? What are the signs that indicate a body was moved that are missing? He sustained all the injuries when he was alive but the head injury would have killed him very fast. So would a beating be indeed possible considering the time frame? Could the lack of blood be attributed to dying very fast? The injuries are part of a single event but she believes he was dragged. And if he was dragged while not conscious but alive shouldn’t the road be covered in blood? The unusual shaped abrasions have a pattern that you see throughout the body, correct? I learned a lot but I’m also very confused.
You have about 45 minutes before lividity sets in. His was on his back side (posterior) of his body which means when his heart stopped and for the next 45 minutes or so, he was in the prone position, not on his side.
That drawing of the injury looks similar to a golf driver/wood
Some things not being mentioned here is that his friend JN sold his side by side after this. There goes any possible evidence. The house the party took place in is on tribal land so they did not have to allow them to search it. And the house is allegedly going to be demolished since there is a permit for that to take place.
There is a crime here. Even if the only crime is not reporting an accident.
I hope continued pressure further drives an investigation by someone other than local LE.
#justiceforNoah
All of Oklahoma is on tribal land, lol.
You said train tracks were adjacent to the highway. Has anyone considered the possibility Noah was hit by a train?
Yes i think everyone agrees it doesn't add up
Underage drunk kid was probly taken to someones machine shop straight out of the shower, folded shorts they probly could not put them on body out of time like cop rolling up or rigamortis prevented someone from getting shorts on..
Yep if the body was washed, that would explain the lack of blood.
Very powerful statement
ME released the full report under pressure from various public sources.
So sad for Noah
I think he was riding in the back of a speeding lift truck. The driver was heavily intoxicated, NP was heavily intoxicated. Their could have been a 2nd lift truck speeding, maybe playing chicken and one or both slammed on their brakes and he flew, his head hit the front bumper and then slid under the front and was dragged a couple hundred feet.
Or could have been chased and he fell out backwards and was drug a little bit.
What about falling off the back of a pick up truck? My ex boyfriend’s brother was killed this way and had similar injuries to Noah, top of head broken neck bones extremely high on the spine, like a hanging. Could this be? Also I heard if he was lying asleep on side of road head first, a trucks tire hit him fast and quick? Any thoughts
He left with mismatched shoes, no hat, phone, or wallet. Big big hurry.
Especially the phone, which his family says was a new iphone that he was a prized possession. Besides, no teenager would walk off without their phone, no matter how drunk.
Small Town, Slow Moving, Good Ol Boy Mentality Policing! Sorry, but get other agencies involved that are able to throw resources at solving and prosecuting this! The World is Watching and to me, the local authorities are OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE!!!!! IJS. SMRM #justicefornoah
Very grateful for another perspective. However, the guest isn’t an M.E. There is a difference
Wait she's not a M.E ?
Jodi has over 30 years of experience in law enforcement and investigations throughout the U.S. and Canada. She was the first female CSI for the Illinois Dept. of Law Enforcement as well being the Det. Division Commander and was the deputy coroner and has worked with medical examiners for years on over 200 death investigations.
I thought she was very knowledgeable
Check your facts before speaking.
Jodi Barth is an expert. Her credentials speak for themselves
I just wanted to say that I meant no offense. But, you clearly failed to read the description of the video, as well as the comment he made. I have no doubt in my mind that she’s an expert in her field. But she’s not an M.E. She seems like a lovely woman. Doesn’t make her an M.E. 🤷🏻♀️
It's a highway. That takes you to Texas. But not highly traveled.
Had to be a local!
Yeah.
Injury looks similar to the butt of a rifle. I don’t see a 19 year old walking off without his phone. If he did he was under distress. Something happened to leave his phone and not take time to have his own shoes.
Description of injuries - Sounds like the butt of a rifle and a bashing him with overkill anger. Someone really had this beating coming to him. Almost like a rage anger attack. Brutally wanted to shut Noah up. -Someone really bashed him repeatedly with an overkill obsession. Jealousy or something, didn’t want him around their girlfriend. 🤔
Been watching case videos in Sickening horror, very disturbing and heartbreaking 😢 brutal death.
I wouldn’t rule someone who behaved like his friend but was secretly Obsessed with him. Couldn’t handle their feelings of jealousy, charisma success. Someone really wanted him gone. ( “stay away from my girlfriend attack” from a jealous boyfriend ??) 🤔
Ok so just to understand a little better. Is she saying he was hurt somewhere else and placed there after death? Just want to make sure I’m understanding correctly.
Based on the information in the ME report she said it could be a possibility that he was moved.
I feel like if they washed him after the injuries they would have mentioned water in his lungs or in his skull they only mentioned air
Was the truck driver and service truck from that town ? Are these drivers friends with any of the people At party house ? Why assume at crime scene and not investigate? There could of been anougher body out in field or house..why no FBI press conference? Why no time of death on audtopsey? Why no charges for contributing to underage that led to his death? Was the black substance come from a shop or tailgate, railroad track? Machinery like on a service truck tow truck? Why no dogs on body dump scene to look for original crime scene site?
The 1 set of trucks prior to dawn or second set that called it in at 5:53 am
2 different sets of trucks, first set or second set who reported?
Probably because the Me didn't go to the scene and do a core temperature check. He didn't even see Noah for 24 hours. Doesn't work on holidays I guess. Smh.
Is case being delayed stonewalling family due to upcomeing election ?
Truth will come out despite delays & political games. Justice for Noah!
At least they didn’t throw his body in the water, 100 miles away. But they are dumb stupid teenagers that think they one upped the police, state troopers and Medical Examiner. Did the ME talk to any of the kids? Should have. That’s usually part of an investigation. But it’s like all LEO’s were Barney Five. Duhhh Gun with no bullets. Acting like hillbillies makes me so mad.
Pea size marks - run over on a gravel road? Point rocks press into skin?
Someone mentioned it in a group I’m in that’s following his case…. Could it be the head of an ax?
What group was this in? This is the first I am hearing of an ax.
@@AnnoyedMommaHere no one knows for sure. It was someone’s guess. I’m not saying that it was used or confirming anything. I don’t know anyone involved in this case. I don’t even live there. I just saw someone who commented say it looks like an ax & it does. It’s a FB group called Noah Pregroves Army! So many people are looking for justice.
@@EJam3241that’s why we think it’s a wood club. Or the butt of that rifle, unloaded and swung it like a bat or club. Because it had a down and up lift to the front wound.
@@YvonneMelvin definitely! It could be that too.
@@YvonneMelvin I really pray they find justice. This is so horrific.
Oklahoma and others, consider posting a gofundme reward for the arrest of who killed Noah, money talks, it will encourage someone to present the truth if they know they have enough money to leave town afterwards for their safety. Post reward create gofundme, for justice for Noah and to save the life of the next kid looking for a party . If Noah chose not to show up that night who would of been found on highway ? Clearly not someone related is my guess. My opinion. Noah would of been a Brave fearless soldier for the USA if someone did not Robb him of his life. ⚖🤦♂️🐾🐾🦮🐾🐾✝️✝️✝️💰☎️
Would a golf club make a fish like shape on someone?
I haven't heard what size shoe noah and kaden ware could be the same size ,he couldn't find his other shoe so took kadens
Size 12 both of them
Both wore size 12
Both said to wear size 12.
How do you know the other shoe was kadens? That's the info I was in the comments to find.
@@raincadeify kaden has said himself in statement that noah took his shoe,when he also said jack was awake at 3 and jack burst in the house at 515 telling everyone noah was dead,then kaden could only find 1 shoe ,he stated the hey dude was his
Yes to me it seems like butt end of a rifle
Or the slice of t golf club
The shape of a golf club
So much of the stories coming from the people at the party don't add up to the point it's logically all lies! Like.... let's throw some mud at the wall and see what sticks? LOL
Nothing about this case is LOL. Nothing.
What about a 2x4 as the weapon?
It says m e released the report may 16 24
Btw it was said on a text by that boy to someone
Truck driver said fetal position. We need those pics. Can p i or anyone get them?
So she doesn't think the body was moved are dumped
She said it was possible that he was moved.
@@partnersintruecrimepodcast I really liked her,yeah I wasn't sure I thought she said could be moved but within a short time .man really tough listening to the amount of injuries
@@Victor-cr5rryea I mean it’s simple he was probably beat to death then took to the highway and tossed out of moving vehicle right after they was for sure he was dead.
Yes with a short time. Considering a kid at the party said he saw Noah alive at 3:00am and then the same kid says he saw him dead on the road around 5:30am that’s a pretty short window. He has liver mortis on his posterior but the brother said he was lying in his right side. So much happened at crime scene hard to tell.
@@hogleg8103 yeah that's what I think happened, but is there enough to arrest and who are group did this,we know jack passed polygraph, would you still charge jack?
Not trying to come off harsh or insensitive ,but I swear I read on the autopsy his man parts were swollen or bruised, but then I went back to try and find it and kinda skimmed over it. Maybe I missed it, but has anyone else read that? And if so what would cause that? Also, both his shoulders were broken and I haven’t heard any speak on that ( well experts) what would be the cause for that and has anyone else ever heard that in other crimes? I watch a lot of crime shows, RUclips and podcasts and have never heard of anyone shoulders being broke. If I’m wrong in any of this please correct me.
Correction. I listened again when I wasn’t so busy and she did mention the shoulders broken
@@Tuck303 The shoulder blades. I didn't read anything about genitals being injured. They were listed as normal and "unremarkable". I did wonder if they checked for sexual assault but it wasn't mentioned in the report, so I guess not. Not impressed by the ME who did the autopsy.
@@raincadeify I swear I read where the genitals were swollen cause I remember looking at my daughter and saying, “I wonder if they kicked him down there”
If u didn’t see it then I must be thinking of something else. I think they did take swabs of everything… that is if I read it correctly. As time goes on and I read the facebook stuff I could be getting things mixed up between stuff being posted there, RUclips ,tiktok and the autopsy.
@@raincadeify I found it… “there was drying artifact of the scrotum” is what it said. When I looked it up it on Google it stated that it could be from the sun or could be mistaken for an injury, so that’s probably where I got injury from.
@@Tuck303 I get you, me too on how confusing it is and with the different sources and the timeline shifting and all the many players. I have to go back and check things all the time. I came into this in the middle and just now starting to look at a few social media posts. One thing I thought was, if they found him butt naked and beat up it seems a no brainer to test for sexual assault, but there's no mention of a rape kit being done. Also, the ME didn't go and see the body on the road, and there seems to have been no effort to establish time of death with core temperature, which would follow if he didn't even see the body until the next work day, Monday. My thought is they don't really know how to investigate a murder in general and certainly not one this unusual, so they assumed it was a hit and run. When the ME got the call, probably on Sunday, he was told it was a traffic accident and he didn't think there was any reason to roll out on a weekend, which nothing but lazy imo. Also, it's not clear if there were some calls being made by interested parties encouraging the hit and run theory. If it weren't for the extensive injuries and the flurry of social media posts and the whole town being abuzz, it would have been case closed imo.
There has been a couple mediums (I believe that’s what you call them) said two guys and a girl drove looking for him out of anger and stopped when they seen him and then decided to shift gears and knock him down. The medium said Noah was asking them to call ambulance cause his ribs and back and he was sorry and wouldn’t tell anyone but they didn’t call. The medium said it was his friends that were angry over a girl. They pulled out an iron and he begged no and I thought we are homies and the guy struck him several times. The girl stayed in vehicle. Said the vehicle was greenish colored. Not sure if truck or car she said. If this was true, my god it would be a close friend of his. How sad! Anyways you can listen to these police psychics and seems to match the injuries.
ruclips.net/video/L89Nd-O2fNQ/видео.htmlsi=X28UgyjUSbEsVglV
Drink drivin with deth charge would destroy someones life. cover up likely.
There’s one huge factor that you guys are leaving out that’s very important. MOTIVE? Nobody seems to stay on that topic.
Maybe he got caught with another dudes chic! just a thought….Drunken jealousy.
Drunk teenagers don’t take much to get motive unfortunately