One thing I have to point about the auto transmission versus manual is this. I bought a manual GTI not for faster 0 to 60 times but for the joy of shifting a manual. That’s what I think most people buy a manual transmission for. It’s just more fun and I’m really enjoying my GTI manual. Great review.
@@Bobspineable Well let me explain, most of the sales of any brand will be depending on their more rational vehicles than category specific vehicles that are made for things like luxury or sport. The average common person has a family they need to carry them to their daily destinations, school, office, work places. They want to carry things like groceries items of daily use and stuff and once or twice a month some constructive related stuff to fix their houses. And they have limited money to spend in the end when they look at the utilitarian perspective of any vehicle a SUV lands on top of their list. Because it is more cuboidal which helps fit things inside the vehicle they get better view from seating position they get better headroom and leg room (generally speaking) They can carry comparatively bigger objects in their trunk. That is why in this busy day scenario of today they spend once and they want to spend more practical. SUVs will be their first choice for many years to come unless Sedans get more bigger :P
If you’re considering this car: get it. If you’re looking for a fun car that is surprisingly premium as a daily: this is a solid choice. I have a 2020 GLI and adore it. Great car.
This car is FUN. Coming out of a corner at 25 and nailing it pushed me back in the seat. Lots of power around 2500 and up. VERY fun car with lots of usable power. The manual may be slower but it's what I'd get.
I have a '19 S model with a manual and it has been a really fun car. I have had 0 issues with it in a year and a half of ownership. It also has a 6 yr 72K mile warranty on it (although the newer one's shorter). For the price you can't get a funner car to drive.
I got my GLI a month or so ago and absolutely love it. I was told that the manual GLI did NOT have the adaptive cruise and was surprised and pleased to see that it does!! It’s not the best (my dad has a Tesla, so there’s really no comparison...) but it works great for long drives. I can’t be happier with the manual transmission as well. Love the car! Great review!
Late to the comments…but interesting to try to choose. The US pricing differs a bit from up here in Canada but: 2022 GLI - $35,000 2022 Si - $35,900 2022 E-N - $39,700 Interestingly enough: 2023 WRX - $33,000 And is the only one I haven’t driven yet.
I really enjoy having reverse next to first gear. It makes going between those two gears fast and easy. Of course every time you leave reverse, you have go to first, so it makes sense that they should be next to each other. This is particularly useful when switching between forward and reverse frequently such as when doing a three point turn. The layout is also less common and I like it for that reason as well.
Great review. Have owned a 2020 for 6 months and is a blast, and the 2021 has very minimal changes mostly related to wireless android auto and adaptive cruise. The beats audio is atrocious, and there are some rattles already, otherwise all is great so far. Dont forget the armrest does have little risers to prop it higher for those of us who are taller, and there actually are air vents to the back but they are under the seat!
I will take the GTi. This sedan is a great car. I got to check one out recently and the Passat. There is wonderful solidness in the VW that I really like. The big question mark still is reliability. But for a fun refined package. VW does it very well. Always great to see you Alex, there is no more detailed reviewer than you. Please keep the great videos coming.
I think there is a significant quality difference between this and the GTI. My brother has a 2017 GTI and the only thing he’s ever had to replace (outside of scheduled maintenance) is a motor mount. His MK7 is a very solid car! On the other hand, my 2019 GLI had a rear main seal leak, interior was cheaply made and rattled like a Hyundai from the 90s.
@@marktepper3440 Sorry to hear that. I had a 2016 GTI and now have a 2020 GLI and have had few issues. GLI has been rock solid so far, though the GTI seemed to be consuming a little oil with only a little over 50,000 miles. To be fair I got it used, so who knows what the previous owner did.
2016 Golf TSI with 75,000 kms - and it's been fantastic. I had only one issue over its 5 year lifetime which was it was leaking some engine coolant. Fixed under warranty.
I switched from a manual 2016 Golf (1.8t) to a GLI last year with the DSG and couldn't be happier. Phenomenal vehicle for the price and a lot of fun to drive. Oh and here in Canada, we do get the factory nav (there is only 1 trim level) which works fantastically well with the large display behind the wheel. A+, would buy again.
@@frankieh5277 I did get an odd rattle from the passenger side in the winter but only when it was quite cold out. Seems to have abated now it's got warmer out.
@@dnorth98 Thanks for the reply, mine is pretty consistent in sport mode, Google says it's from the soundaktor and that it's a common problem ... Had it by my local dealer , acknowledged the buzzing/rattle , kept it for 5 days so the 'vw engineer" can come and check it out, just to tell me they hear it, but they can't do nothing about it and gave me a vw costumers service to call , wth 🤔
@@dnorth98 oh yeah I love the car was planning on keeping it especially since I got the 35th anniversary but if this doesn't get resolved she's going back 😒
This is spot on. Our debut long term test car is a 2020 GLI Autobahn. Currently at 7000 miles and six months. Pretty solid but one hiccup with our rear brakes. No rattles and a hoot to drive. Keep in mind at this price or less you can look at some nice midsize options, if you want more comfort and features at the expense of performance. . Hint hint. K5 GT-line
I came down with sarcoidosis (an environmentally triggered disease associated to diesel fuel exposure, and I still mis my 2012 TDI 6MT Golf. Thing was perfect basically.
The GLi looks very clean.. i would take the manual as i tend to beat the EPA fuel econ for both auto and manual.. automatic have better while manuals have gotten worse but there still a few good ones still out there
I own a 2019 35th anniversary edition (equivalent to the S Auto) and not having a true sun blocking cover for the sunroof was the deal breaker on the autobauhn version for me. Hot TX summer sun + leather seats = a horrible time.
i have a 2021 golf with the same sunscreen as you...I got my sunroof tinted with the darkest shade possible...still lets enough light thru so we will see how I do in my Arizona summer's as well :)
On my 2016 GTI the sunroof was a pain. It required cleaning and lubrication every few months or else it'd creak like crazy. However, I do miss being able to let the light in sometimes. I've got a 2020 GLI S now, and have been loving the car!
I've had my 2020 GLI S with the DSG for about 5 months, and I must say, it's a killer daily. It's fun to just drive it like a goon from time to time, but it is very comfortable around town and gets great gas mileage (mid-30's, easily) on the highway. I have to say I don't know why one would get a fully-loaded Jetta when this exists for similar money.
The missing rear vents is so petty. It's the exact same MQB platform as the GTI and the regular Jetta, both of which have vents. They literally took out the ducting and cutouts from the car for no reason
I love the Jetta. I have 15 SE 1.8T and it is a blast to drive. I am definitely going to upgrade to the GLI. Noticed how much smaller the trunk is though. Mine has 15.7 and it has dropped to 14.1. I do a lot of traveling by car w/friends family, so storage is kind of important. But so is performance! Hmmmm. lol
I had a 2016 GTI and I loved it. It had the R gear next to first and personally I prefer it the other way, at the bottom right. The reason: I assume for safety reasons, VW forced you to push the shifter "Into the console" to be able to move left into the reverse gate. This was not only annoying, but then on the way back from R to first, I would have to let the stick almost get back to center before it would leave that sunken, pushed in level. Other cars I've had, R "safety" would be to move the stick far to the right. But that's better because it doesn't require a push in.
Jetta always has a place in my heart and not what you think. My mother bought it used back in 2000 and after a while the engine would stop working back from idle like when the red light turns green and the car needs to start. One time she went into a ditch because of it. Not to mention the pressure and honking from all the cars behind her. My mom kept the car for 6 month but it spend more than three months at the shop. With the diesel scandal and historical unreliability I would never touch VW.
I know I will end up paying more, however I will go for a 2022 Kia Stinger any day over a Jetta or a Civic SI. I am getting 300 HP, AWD, good rear legroom, Cavernous boot and rear AC vents :).
Grew up with vw so I'm used to it. Factoid. Reverse isn't synchronized so 1st 2nd neutral both sides down left up into reverse was part of driver training in our house #mk5 love
For me, the left+up reverse gear is preferable. It feels awkward and takes more force to pull the lever away from you and pull backwards on it. With left+up, it's a very natural movement that doesn't cause as much undue fatigue when you're getting out of a shitty day at work
Not sure why automotive journalist these days have to sound apologetic when it comes to saying the automatics are faster than manuals in 0-60 tests. Manual drivers don't necessarily care about the 0.3 sec difference to 60, as 99% of the people buying these cars are not drag racing at the stoplight. Like Alex said later in the video, its about the feeling of driving the manual and engagement with the vehicle/clutch/shifter.
I remember when I had an 01 Jetta Wolfsburg edition, I thought that thing was so fun to drive and had a 1.8T, which at the time I thought was plenty powerful. These new ones aren't offensive to look at but nothing exciting or as fun as the MK4.
I haven't been in any new Volkswagen, but I've driven a Mk4 golf, and it was pretty fun, despite having the somewhat "underpowered" 2.0 4 cylinder and the 4 speed auto.
You can't knock the 2020 Civic SI for its HP/Tq ratings when its 300lbs-400lbs (2,906lbs vs 3,298lbs) lighter than th Jetta GLI. That is a significant weight differemce. I really dislike it when you paint your own picture with picking certain facts just because you love its DCT. Theres more to sport sedans than just horsepower
I myself would be used to having Reverse slotted on the left as the tractor trailers I drove for 11 years were all that way. But I'm not in the market for any manual. I'm disabled now and my left leg isn't clutch friendly. Regardless the GLI looks nice.
Great overview and comparison across the segment. I’m oddly considering a GLI to replace my 2018 GTI since it lacks the LSD. This review gave me some things to think about. Thanks!
I replaced my 2016 GTI with a 2020 GLI. My GTI had the LSD however. But, the good news is, I think the LSD works very well in this car as well. For me, I think the GTI was slightly more exciting to drive, but with the GLI, it is easier to enter/exit the car and generally more comfortable for daily driving. It's a better value overall, too, since it is cheaper and includes the old Performance Pack power increase and LSD standard. Best wishes on your car search.
Got to disagree with you on reverse placement. Up+left is ideal. Down+right always worried me when going 5 to 6. Its never happened to me but why take the chance.
Up+left is the way to go. In case you go into first from standing still by accident there is no harm, vs going into reverse by accident when you intend to shift into 6th on the highway. This the way Miata 6MT is set up, and I believe also how BMW does it.
@@junliliu4997 I've owned over 30 cars with manual transmissions. As long as I know where it is I've never cared or been bothered where it was. Remember, lots of the manuals are in right hand drive cars, so drivers are shifting with their left hand...quite a different experience, esp if you are right handed. Always best to know where reverse is, and in all modern manuals there is a definite lock-out, so you can't accidently go into reverse. 🙂
The reverse is always like that in a VW.... its a security feature. I love to mess with my friends and see if they can figure out how to shift into R. ( hint: push down)
Always have been curious about your reverse location preference on a manual. To me, right and down seems more scary in that if you somehow end up there instead of 6th, the car blows up? Left and up, you miss first, which may mean going forward instead of backward, but at least you’re starting from a stop.
Great review for an overlooked compact sedan, Alex. I have to take issue with one statement, however. At around 12:00 you suggested that the GLI with its excellent DSG "unless you're trying really hard is likely to be "faster than a Golf R or Honda Civic Type R with an MT." As much as I love the DSG in my GTI I find it impossible to believe that the GLI/DSG combo is either quicker (e.g. 0-60 mph) or faster than a Golf R or Civic Type R with an MT for anyone with even the most limited experience with a manual transmission. Are you sure you didn't mean the GTI or the Civic SI? As far as the Jetta GLI sedan is concerned, as a GTI owner I have mixed feelings. On one hand I find it great to see the GTI in a 4dr sedan costume, especially at more affordable price. On the other hand, I'm suspicious that the lower priced, US built GLI may be a first step in VW's plans to drop the GTI from the US portfolio. The basic Golf is already gone and unlikely to return with the MK8 version. VW promises that the US will get the MK8 GTI and the Golf R but the latter is such a slow seller that VW repeatedly threatens to withdraw it from the US market. The Jetta (basic and GLI) already outsells the Golf (basic and GTI) by a margin of more than 3 to 1. I can imagine that VW's emphasis on SUVs would leave the iconic GTI and Golf R out in the cold. That would create the same tears from me that the demise of Saab produced. Though I think the GLI is a strong contender in the compact sedan segment, I'd still opt for the GTI for several reasons. First, I love the iconic shape and versatility of the Golf. Every week I have to transfer a large trash can from my down and back up a thousand foot very steep driveway. With the back seat folded my GTI swallows it with ease. Likewise, periodic trips to Costco to pick up a half dozen five gallon jars of mayonnaise and other staples or an occasional microwave or large screen TV is easily accomplished. The GLI has a generous trunk for the vehicle's size but it still doesn't compare to the GTI hatchback design even with the back seat folded. Second, the fact that the GLI lacks embedded navigation on any trim is a significant weakness for me. In the first place I hate deal with the tangle of cables every time I need a navigation system. If it ain't wireless I'd prefer my GTI's embedded nav system. Furthermore, while Apple CarPlay is a reasonable substitute for my GTI's native nav system in most cases the times I often need navigation assistance are often out in the wilderness where cellular coverage is spotty at best. The GTI's satellite based nav is more reliable in those cases. Finally, my big dog's second home is the back seat of my GTI. I have no problem denying a cooling breeze to my wife or daughter but my dog is another matter. The lack of rear seat AC would leave my dog miserable in summer heat especially on the way home from a romp in the dog park. He wouldn't complain like my daughter would but it would break my heart.
This is a Skoda Octavia A8 that's rebadged for Americans and it doesn't even have a liftback trunk, but the crippled tiny-opening sedan one, even though it's the same car.
Unfortunately, that is a 2021 "concept" version called the Blue Lagoon Jetta GLI and not for sale. Very nice package but I'm sure it's just a VW tease. media.vw.com/en-us/releases/1475#images
I got the 35th with the dsg, love the car but in sport mode only btw 2000 -3000 rpms, there is rattle on the passenger side of dashboard which Google tells me it's where the soundaktor is located and coming from it, seems to be a common issue. I took it to my local vw dealer and they won't do anything about it and its driving me nuts ... Was wondering if any of you had the same issue. Thanks
Had a 2019 and loved the performance, but the love faded quickly. Rattles, poor interior quality, and it developed a rear main seal leak after 20k miles.
Just one thing…if vw can match the longevity and dependability of Honda or Toyota, we can talk…big horsepower doesn’t mean squat if it’s in the shop all the time
Alex, get real. Sure the version 8 Golf (2022 model for sale in the US) is going to be a hot-hot hatch, but the price is way-way beyond these sedans you are discussing. 320 hp, but over $41,000. PS: who cares where reverse is located........as long as you know where it is. Remember, there are right-hand drive versions of manual transmission cars, so those drivers are shifting with their left hand. 🙂
@@hanksta34 Last summer you were able to go into any Boston dealer and get a SE for $25,900 or SEL for 27,200 Brand new, now Carmax and Carvana have them for exactly what you referenced (30K) Crazy.
@@bassandtrebleclef I believe they are still using plastic everywhere. I know BMW is slowly improving. Realize most car companies don't care how vehicle operate beyond warranty; especially VW.
@@blueryxfalls7949 Carbon build-up is much less of an issue now compared to years past. My 2016 GTI with over 50k miles had minimal build-up per borescope inspection. I'm rocking a 2020 GLI now and will deal with that problem if the time comes, but experience suggests it'll be many years away.
I have a 2014 Jetta SE - serviced only at dealerships with synthetic oil changes - anything else would mean carbon build up. With an independent rear suspension which the model year had, and the leatherette interior, looks upscale and brand new even now. And then the 174 hp and 184 lb ft torque. Got it brand new for $18K.
The main reason for my accelerated receding hairline was the fact of a giant sucking sound draining my wallet trying to repair cars like this one. Yeah....later you will thank me for saving your wallets from the painful draining. Buckle up for safety. Air bags don’t always work.
With a manual transmission , I wonder if the ''electric'' parking brake system automatically holds the vehicle in place at a stop in a uphill or if it is only the ''electronic'' parking brake that have this advantage ?
@@braetonwilson4296 It's really a shame cause they handle and drive so well, but this issue with reliability would keep me from buying one. Only consider it on a 3 yr lease.
@@vivalasvegas702 This one is on the new platform. I'd venture to say GM and Ford are at the bottom of quality. VW may actually be better at this point. At least they'll make it until after their warranty period is up before letting go.
But I’m guessing none of you cocky people have done enough research to realize that the VW made in Germany were more faulty than the ones made in Mexico. Further more the 2019 model offered a 7 year warranty which is what I have. Btw you cocky fools, my “ Mexican” Jetta has been stage 2 pushing 340Whp over 90k miles without any issues. Silly little people
the cars are german engineered - the people putting them together do not need to be german. i see people bring this up all the time but it makes no sense. the engineering is what matters. if you build a nissan in germany it will not feel any different due to the people who are putting it together.... it all comes down to who is engineering the vehicles which for VW is still germans.
@@neekjp Absolutely! In the same way that a Toyota or Honda made in the US is the same as one made in Japan. Reliability is an engineering matter almost always.
@@jjchicken7242 When I'm paying good money for a premium German sports sedan, I want it to be made with high quality German materials by skilled Germans in Germany. I don't think that's an unreasonable request, do you?
One thing I have to point about the auto transmission versus manual is this. I bought a manual GTI not for faster 0 to 60 times but for the joy of shifting a manual. That’s what I think most people buy a manual transmission for. It’s just more fun and I’m really enjoying my GTI manual.
Great review.
@stirangeI don't blame you at all. One day you will have one again.
Yes, Lets bring back the sports sedans.. enough with these SUVs.
@@Bobspineable Well let me explain, most of the sales of any brand will be depending on their more rational vehicles than category specific vehicles that are made for things like luxury or sport. The average common person has a family they need to carry them to their daily destinations, school, office, work places. They want to carry things like groceries items of daily use and stuff and once or twice a month some constructive related stuff to fix their houses. And they have limited money to spend in the end when they look at the utilitarian perspective of any vehicle a SUV lands on top of their list. Because it is more cuboidal which helps fit things inside the vehicle they get better view from seating position they get better headroom and leg room (generally speaking) They can carry comparatively bigger objects in their trunk. That is why in this busy day scenario of today they spend once and they want to spend more practical. SUVs will be their first choice for many years to come unless Sedans get more bigger :P
@@Bobspineable incorrect. Some people actually prefer sedans.
People are having families man. SUV's come with style and alot of seats.
If you’re considering this car: get it. If you’re looking for a fun car that is surprisingly premium as a daily: this is a solid choice.
I have a 2020 GLI and adore it. Great car.
Also have a 2020 GLI. S trim, Tornado Red, with the DSG. Had it for about 5 months now and have been enjoying it. Congrats on yours as well.
I have a 2020 gli s manual. I really like it.
This car is FUN. Coming out of a corner at 25 and nailing it pushed me back in the seat. Lots of power around 2500 and up. VERY fun car with lots of usable power. The manual may be slower but it's what I'd get.
That’s what I though before I got stuck in gridlock on a hilly road. Not fun at all.
@@rickjohansson4257 Few cars will be fun in that situation! I rented a 2013 Boxster S this weekend and ran into traffic. Absolutely miserable.
I have a '19 S model with a manual and it has been a really fun car. I have had 0 issues with it in a year and a half of ownership. It also has a 6 yr 72K mile warranty on it (although the newer one's shorter). For the price you can't get a funner car to drive.
I agree, I have a 2019 GTI, and that 72k warranty is amazing. By the time I get to 72k, I will be ready for a Stage 2 upgrade
I got my GLI a month or so ago and absolutely love it. I was told that the manual GLI did NOT have the adaptive cruise and was surprised and pleased to see that it does!! It’s not the best (my dad has a Tesla, so there’s really no comparison...) but it works great for long drives. I can’t be happier with the manual transmission as well. Love the car! Great review!
Late to the comments…but interesting to try to choose. The US pricing differs a bit from up here in Canada but:
2022 GLI - $35,000
2022 Si - $35,900
2022 E-N - $39,700
Interestingly enough:
2023 WRX - $33,000
And is the only one I haven’t driven yet.
Its one of my Top Favs. i think its the Interior that i love the most.
I really enjoy having reverse next to first gear. It makes going between those two gears fast and easy. Of course every time you leave reverse, you have go to first, so it makes sense that they should be next to each other. This is particularly useful when switching between forward and reverse frequently such as when doing a three point turn. The layout is also less common and I like it for that reason as well.
I like this car a lot, and could be one of the absolute best values available...for enthusiasts.
Great review. Have owned a 2020 for 6 months and is a blast, and the 2021 has very minimal changes mostly related to wireless android auto and adaptive cruise. The beats audio is atrocious, and there are some rattles already, otherwise all is great so far. Dont forget the armrest does have little risers to prop it higher for those of us who are taller, and there actually are air vents to the back but they are under the seat!
I will take the GTi. This sedan is a great car. I got to check one out recently and the Passat. There is wonderful solidness in the VW that I really like. The big question mark still is reliability. But for a fun refined package. VW does it very well. Always great to see you Alex, there is no more detailed reviewer than you. Please keep the great videos coming.
I think there is a significant quality difference between this and the GTI. My brother has a 2017 GTI and the only thing he’s ever had to replace (outside of scheduled maintenance) is a motor mount. His MK7 is a very solid car!
On the other hand, my 2019 GLI had a rear main seal leak, interior was cheaply made and rattled like a Hyundai from the 90s.
I had a 2020 GTI. Absolute unreliable garbage. Just got rid of it.
@@marktepper3440 Sorry to hear that. I had a 2016 GTI and now have a 2020 GLI and have had few issues. GLI has been rock solid so far, though the GTI seemed to be consuming a little oil with only a little over 50,000 miles. To be fair I got it used, so who knows what the previous owner did.
2016 Golf TSI with 75,000 kms - and it's been fantastic. I had only one issue over its 5 year lifetime which was it was leaking some engine coolant. Fixed under warranty.
@Prime Artemis Read the survey reviews on Consumer Reports. VW is not average! 😂 It’s the worst mainstream Auto Maker
Wish Honda Civic Si Hatchbacks and Subaru WRX Hatchbacks were a thing globally 😂👍
Me too
I literally was looking for the GLI review on your channel yesterday night and this morning it showed up! Great timing!
I switched from a manual 2016 Golf (1.8t) to a GLI last year with the DSG and couldn't be happier. Phenomenal vehicle for the price and a lot of fun to drive. Oh and here in Canada, we do get the factory nav (there is only 1 trim level) which works fantastically well with the large display behind the wheel. A+, would buy again.
Hi, any rattle/ buzzing noise from the passenger side in sport mode only btw 2000-3000 rpms ?
@@frankieh5277 I did get an odd rattle from the passenger side in the winter but only when it was quite cold out. Seems to have abated now it's got warmer out.
@@dnorth98 Thanks for the reply, mine is pretty consistent in sport mode, Google says it's from the soundaktor and that it's a common problem ... Had it by my local dealer , acknowledged the buzzing/rattle , kept it for 5 days so the 'vw engineer" can come and check it out, just to tell me they hear it, but they can't do nothing about it and gave me a vw costumers service to call , wth 🤔
@@frankieh5277 That sucks mate..what a crappy experience! That's really too bad because the car is a fanatstic machine and great value.
@@dnorth98 oh yeah I love the car was planning on keeping it especially since I got the 35th anniversary but if this doesn't get resolved she's going back 😒
This is spot on. Our debut long term test car is a 2020 GLI Autobahn. Currently at 7000 miles and six months. Pretty solid but one hiccup with our rear brakes. No rattles and a hoot to drive. Keep in mind at this price or less you can look at some nice midsize options, if you want more comfort and features at the expense of performance. . Hint hint. K5 GT-line
You are truly a pro auto evaluator. Encyclopedic reviews/ comparos. Only wish I could listen as fast as you can talk!!
Like the caption in the thumbnail. "Hot hatch, minus hatch".
You are exactly on point: without hatch there is no exitment due to lack of practicality.
If VW hadn't played with emission system, this was the best Diesel car available in US.
TDI Jetta with 6-speed manual was so good.
you can still get them lightly used. they got an EPA approved fix. I snatched a TDI Beetle. Sooooo efficient!
I came down with sarcoidosis (an environmentally triggered disease associated to diesel fuel exposure, and I still mis my 2012 TDI 6MT Golf. Thing was perfect basically.
I really miss my TDI
The GLi looks very clean.. i would take the manual as i tend to beat the EPA fuel econ for both auto and manual.. automatic have better while manuals have gotten worse but there still a few good ones still out there
I own a 2019 35th anniversary edition (equivalent to the S Auto) and not having a true sun blocking cover for the sunroof was the deal breaker on the autobauhn version for me. Hot TX summer sun + leather seats = a horrible time.
i have a 2021 golf with the same sunscreen as you...I got my sunroof tinted with the darkest shade possible...still lets enough light thru so we will see how I do in my Arizona summer's as well :)
On my 2016 GTI the sunroof was a pain. It required cleaning and lubrication every few months or else it'd creak like crazy. However, I do miss being able to let the light in sometimes. I've got a 2020 GLI S now, and have been loving the car!
3m has a heat reduction tint that will help a lot.
Yeah I hate the see through
I've had my 2020 GLI S with the DSG for about 5 months, and I must say, it's a killer daily. It's fun to just drive it like a goon from time to time, but it is very comfortable around town and gets great gas mileage (mid-30's, easily) on the highway. I have to say I don't know why one would get a fully-loaded Jetta when this exists for similar money.
The missing rear vents is so petty. It's the exact same MQB platform as the GTI and the regular Jetta, both of which have vents. They literally took out the ducting and cutouts from the car for no reason
They are under the seats.
@@buildmorefarms1007 those are the return vents for air recirculation
I like the car but, still think it's a bit overpriced. Great review as always.
I love the Jetta. I have 15 SE 1.8T and it is a blast to drive. I am definitely going to upgrade to the GLI. Noticed how much smaller the trunk is though. Mine has 15.7 and it has dropped to 14.1. I do a lot of traveling by car w/friends family, so storage is kind of important. But so is performance! Hmmmm. lol
I had a 2016 GTI and I loved it. It had the R gear next to first and personally I prefer it the other way, at the bottom right.
The reason: I assume for safety reasons, VW forced you to push the shifter "Into the console" to be able to move left into the reverse gate. This was not only annoying, but then on the way back from R to first, I would have to let the stick almost get back to center before it would leave that sunken, pushed in level.
Other cars I've had, R "safety" would be to move the stick far to the right. But that's better because it doesn't require a push in.
Thank you for featuring this car. Wish it came with AWD.
It has torque control, you won't miss all wheel drive.👍
Jetta always has a place in my heart and not what you think. My mother bought it used back in 2000 and after a while the engine would stop working back from idle like when the red light turns green and the car needs to start. One time she went into a ditch because of it. Not to mention the pressure and honking from all the cars behind her.
My mom kept the car for 6 month but it spend more than three months at the shop. With the diesel scandal and historical unreliability I would never touch VW.
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia... Another great review. AonA is my new nightly entertainment.
I know I will end up paying more, however I will go for a 2022 Kia Stinger any day over a Jetta or a Civic SI. I am getting 300 HP, AWD, good rear legroom, Cavernous boot and rear AC vents :).
Its huge!
Jetta GLI is quicker than a base stinger and costs 10 grand less.
Almost got one but just bought an SEL premium 2020 in white. So far I love it. It’s like a little luxury car.
i really like the way the eleantra N looks on the outside and prefer the volkswagon overall
Grew up with vw so I'm used to it. Factoid. Reverse isn't synchronized so 1st 2nd neutral both sides down left up into reverse was part of driver training in our house #mk5 love
For me, the left+up reverse gear is preferable. It feels awkward and takes more force to pull the lever away from you and pull backwards on it.
With left+up, it's a very natural movement that doesn't cause as much undue fatigue when you're getting out of a shitty day at work
Not sure why automotive journalist these days have to sound apologetic when it comes to saying the automatics are faster than manuals in 0-60 tests. Manual drivers don't necessarily care about the 0.3 sec difference to 60, as 99% of the people buying these cars are not drag racing at the stoplight. Like Alex said later in the video, its about the feeling of driving the manual and engagement with the vehicle/clutch/shifter.
Probably not going to consider a GLI, mostly because of reliability concerns.
VW DSG drives nice, but can rattle and suffer from electrical gremlins.
I remember when I had an 01 Jetta Wolfsburg edition, I thought that thing was so fun to drive and had a 1.8T, which at the time I thought was plenty powerful. These new ones aren't offensive to look at but nothing exciting or as fun as the MK4.
I haven't been in any new Volkswagen, but I've driven a Mk4 golf, and it was pretty fun, despite having the somewhat "underpowered" 2.0 4 cylinder and the 4 speed auto.
vw’s quality inside and out has come along way since the MK4 cars.
You can't knock the 2020 Civic SI for its HP/Tq ratings when its 300lbs-400lbs (2,906lbs vs 3,298lbs) lighter than th Jetta GLI. That is a significant weight differemce. I really dislike it when you paint your own picture with picking certain facts just because you love its DCT. Theres more to sport sedans than just horsepower
I myself would be used to having Reverse slotted on the left as the tractor trailers I drove for 11 years were all that way. But I'm not in the market for any manual. I'm disabled now and my left leg isn't clutch friendly. Regardless the GLI looks nice.
Left and up makes more sense to me, as parking maneuvers are faster with 1st and R being adjacent.
Great overview and comparison across the segment. I’m oddly considering a GLI to replace my 2018 GTI since it lacks the LSD. This review gave me some things to think about. Thanks!
I replaced my 2016 GTI with a 2020 GLI. My GTI had the LSD however. But, the good news is, I think the LSD works very well in this car as well.
For me, I think the GTI was slightly more exciting to drive, but with the GLI, it is easier to enter/exit the car and generally more comfortable for daily driving. It's a better value overall, too, since it is cheaper and includes the old Performance Pack power increase and LSD standard. Best wishes on your car search.
I like reverse to the left and down....my old 2002 was like that...
0-60 is not as important that you seem to give it. How many time have you drag racing since a year? Good for teenager...
Exactly!
Got to disagree with you on reverse placement. Up+left is ideal. Down+right always worried me when going 5 to 6. Its never happened to me but why take the chance.
Up+left is the way to go. In case you go into first from standing still by accident there is no harm, vs going into reverse by accident when you intend to shift into 6th on the highway. This the way Miata 6MT is set up, and I believe also how BMW does it.
@@junliliu4997 I've owned over 30 cars with manual transmissions. As long as I know where it is I've never cared or been bothered where it was. Remember, lots of the manuals are in right hand drive cars, so drivers are shifting with their left hand...quite a different experience, esp if you are right handed. Always best to know where reverse is, and in all modern manuals there is a definite lock-out, so you can't accidently go into reverse. 🙂
I prefer the reverse gear just below the P and above the N :-)
How would say the Kia K5 GT stands up against the GLI? Or what about the Mini Cooper Clubman S?
I nearly bought this car and ended up in a Mazda3. If it weren't for the reliability concerns, this might have edged that car out.
I agree with you on Reverse placement preference for the stick.
"No air vents for the rear passengers"....
pssshhht, lol. As if I ever cared about the rear passengers XD
You paying more and getting less. It's just that. I don't care either for less equipment but only if the price reflects that
If the GLI had a heated steering wheel it would be the choice. Something that is needed in Canada
Just buy gloves
The reverse is always like that in a VW.... its a security feature. I love to mess with my friends and see if they can figure out how to shift into R. ( hint: push down)
Always have been curious about your reverse location preference on a manual. To me, right and down seems more scary in that if you somehow end up there instead of 6th, the car blows up? Left and up, you miss first, which may mean going forward instead of backward, but at least you’re starting from a stop.
5:31 The previous generation Sentra was able to fit 4 roller bags upright
Yeah but no car enthusiast would want to own the previous Sentra. It drove like a wet noodle
@@garrettw99 I agree 😂
the previous sentra can't run a 4.1 seconds on stage 2 tune like this GLI does.
Where am I going to store my PEZ? That’s the first thing I always think about! 😂 Alex on Auto’s is the best!
Marsha Marsha Marsha. She always gets the attention.
And in the typical Germanic fashion, VW underrates the power figures on that motor!
www.autoblog.com/2015/02/03/dyno-run-vw-gti-underrated-report/
Them all black Jettas with the top trims are getting good. I mistaken an A4 for one.
Great to see they still offer a manual, hard to find these days.
I know it would basically be an Audi but I wish they’d make these AWD with a bit more HP
Do they still use $800 window regulators that break every 6 months? Asking for a friend.
SaveTheManuals
Great review for an overlooked compact sedan, Alex. I have to take issue with one statement, however. At around 12:00 you suggested that the GLI with its excellent DSG "unless you're trying really hard is likely to be "faster than a Golf R or Honda Civic Type R with an MT." As much as I love the DSG in my GTI I find it impossible to believe that the GLI/DSG combo is either quicker (e.g. 0-60 mph) or faster than a Golf R or Civic Type R with an MT for anyone with even the most limited experience with a manual transmission. Are you sure you didn't mean the GTI or the Civic SI?
As far as the Jetta GLI sedan is concerned, as a GTI owner I have mixed feelings. On one hand I find it great to see the GTI in a 4dr sedan costume, especially at more affordable price. On the other hand, I'm suspicious that the lower priced, US built GLI may be a first step in VW's plans to drop the GTI from the US portfolio. The basic Golf is already gone and unlikely to return with the MK8 version. VW promises that the US will get the MK8 GTI and the Golf R but the latter is such a slow seller that VW repeatedly threatens to withdraw it from the US market. The Jetta (basic and GLI) already outsells the Golf (basic and GTI) by a margin of more than 3 to 1. I can imagine that VW's emphasis on SUVs would leave the iconic GTI and Golf R out in the cold. That would create the same tears from me that the demise of Saab produced.
Though I think the GLI is a strong contender in the compact sedan segment, I'd still opt for the GTI for several reasons. First, I love the iconic shape and versatility of the Golf. Every week I have to transfer a large trash can from my down and back up a thousand foot very steep driveway. With the back seat folded my GTI swallows it with ease. Likewise, periodic trips to Costco to pick up a half dozen five gallon jars of mayonnaise and other staples or an occasional microwave or large screen TV is easily accomplished. The GLI has a generous trunk for the vehicle's size but it still doesn't compare to the GTI hatchback design even with the back seat folded.
Second, the fact that the GLI lacks embedded navigation on any trim is a significant weakness for me. In the first place I hate deal with the tangle of cables every time I need a navigation system. If it ain't wireless I'd prefer my GTI's embedded nav system. Furthermore, while Apple CarPlay is a reasonable substitute for my GTI's native nav system in most cases the times I often need navigation assistance are often out in the wilderness where cellular coverage is spotty at best. The GTI's satellite based nav is more reliable in those cases.
Finally, my big dog's second home is the back seat of my GTI. I have no problem denying a cooling breeze to my wife or daughter but my dog is another matter. The lack of rear seat AC would leave my dog miserable in summer heat especially on the way home from a romp in the dog park. He wouldn't complain like my daughter would but it would break my heart.
In some of the Jetta armrests there is a kickstand available to engage for raising the height of the armrest. I could not see it on Alex’s camera here
This is a Skoda Octavia A8 that's rebadged for Americans and it doesn't even have a liftback trunk, but the crippled tiny-opening sedan one, even though it's the same car.
Thank god I can fit a half gallon of milk in the middle storage compartment
Where can I get it in that blue (15:58-17:09)?
Unfortunately, that is a 2021 "concept" version called the Blue Lagoon Jetta GLI and not for sale. Very nice package but I'm sure it's just a VW tease. media.vw.com/en-us/releases/1475#images
I got the 35th with the dsg, love the car but in sport mode only btw 2000 -3000 rpms, there is rattle on the passenger side of dashboard which Google tells me it's where the soundaktor is located and coming from it, seems to be a common issue. I took it to my local vw dealer and they won't do anything about it and its driving me nuts ... Was wondering if any of you had the same issue. Thanks
I have a rattle same rpms, but on driver side. It’s only annoying cause the car only has 1k miles.. seems worse in the cold.
Had a 2019 and loved the performance, but the love faded quickly. Rattles, poor interior quality, and it developed a rear main seal leak after 20k miles.
Volkswagen Jetta, including GLI, is cheaply made in Mexico. Overpriced unreliable junk.
Covered under warranty for 72k miles. Mine has 20k and has no rattles and has had no issues so far.
Is the LSD the same system that is also on the Jetta R-line 1.4T and the fwd Arteon?
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! I love goofy Alex!
Just one thing…if vw can match the longevity and dependability of Honda or Toyota, we can talk…big horsepower doesn’t mean squat if it’s in the shop all the time
My 2020 gli has been really solid. Only one small issue that they are replacing. My new Dodge spent more time at dealership than my driveway.
@@Bondovw a common issue with a great many mopar products
Alex, get real. Sure the version 8 Golf (2022 model for sale in the US) is going to be a hot-hot hatch, but the price is way-way beyond these sedans you are discussing. 320 hp, but over $41,000.
PS: who cares where reverse is located........as long as you know where it is. Remember, there are right-hand drive versions of manual transmission cars, so those drivers are shifting with their left hand. 🙂
What happen to the Subaru WRX?
Great car, just need an exterior update with new stylish look and it’ll be an even greater deal
2022
Alex what luggage do you use to test with?
God bless Honda refusing to put an auto in the performance Civics.
Can this car perform well when filled with regular gasoline (octane 87)?
No you will lose a bit of power with 87 you would be better off going mid grade, 89 octane.
I miss my Jetta... but I do really like my Alltrack 😸
Interestingly, inventory is very low and those '19 Alltrack 4-Motion SEL's are holding steady around $30K.
@@hanksta34 mine is a ‘17 SEL 😸🚙
@@hanksta34 Last summer you were able to go into any Boston dealer and get a SE for $25,900 or SEL for 27,200 Brand new, now Carmax and Carvana have them for exactly what you referenced (30K) Crazy.
Oil leaks and lots of burning after 60k, don't tell me I didn't warn you.
I know VW had a ton of problems historically, but are the 2019 and forward cars still that bad?
@@bassandtrebleclef I believe they are still using plastic everywhere. I know BMW is slowly improving. Realize most car companies don't care how vehicle operate beyond warranty; especially VW.
@@bassandtrebleclef also carbon build up on the engine. Has been a thing for ages and still is
@@blueryxfalls7949 Carbon build-up is much less of an issue now compared to years past. My 2016 GTI with over 50k miles had minimal build-up per borescope inspection. I'm rocking a 2020 GLI now and will deal with that problem if the time comes, but experience suggests it'll be many years away.
I have a 2014 Jetta SE - serviced only at dealerships with synthetic oil changes - anything else would mean carbon build up. With an independent rear suspension which the model year had, and the leatherette interior, looks upscale and brand new even now. And then the 174 hp and 184 lb ft torque. Got it brand new for $18K.
Honda and Subaru (except the BRZ) have reverse to the right and down
Great detailed review 👍
The main reason for my accelerated receding hairline was the fact of a giant
sucking sound draining my wallet trying to repair cars like this one.
Yeah....later you will thank me for saving your wallets from the painful draining.
Buckle up for safety. Air bags don’t always work.
Minus the HOT
Guys - would you pick this VW Jetta GLI or the Mazda 3 Turbo? And Why?
I bought this car. Its super fun to drive.
With a manual transmission , I wonder if the ''electric'' parking brake system automatically holds the vehicle in place at a stop in a uphill or if it is only the ''electronic'' parking brake that have this advantage ?
If I'm remembering correctly, my 2014 GTI manual had this "hill-hold" feature like you described, so maybe it works the same way?
I really hate the hill hold. I can't back up into my garage.
It's the not the same word?
With such a tiny/small rear spoiler, why bother?
Why don’t Honda put 8DCT across Civic sport models? It’s really a pity!
Isn't this due for a refresh this year for the 2022 model?
GTI this fall
Hi, yeah you. Buy it. And make all ur relatives and friends buy it. I cant cuz jetta not available in bd (we get vento, cc and suvs)
I THINK I'D RATHER BUY A MAZDA. OR A CHEVY BOLT EV, WHICH IS A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, ALMOST AS QUICK, BUT HAS VERY LITTLE MAINTENANCE AND NO GAS EVER!!!
I checked out all 3 but the GLI just felt like a better fit for me. I was actually surprised how much I liked the Bolt .
Too bad they're as unreliable as f*ck and expensive when they do break.
Yep exactly. Might as well flush your money down the toilet as buy one of these horrible Jettas.
@@braetonwilson4296 It's really a shame cause they handle and drive so well, but this issue with reliability would keep me from buying one. Only consider it on a 3 yr lease.
@@pedrofernandez8729 Yep, you're so right.
AGREE. They’re a garbage brand, Jetta is still using the same platform from over a decade ago.
@@vivalasvegas702 This one is on the new platform. I'd venture to say GM and Ford are at the bottom of quality. VW may actually be better at this point. At least they'll make it until after their warranty period is up before letting go.
Looks like a 20k car not 30k
The interior is pretty good for the class
What 20k car comes with this engine power and handling abilities??!
Agreed. It's a very plain car, inside and out.
I hate BLANK BUTTONS. This is 2021.
Do people today cross-shop VW over Hyundai & Kia?? 0:40
The people looking for performance probably do. The people who just want a car with a slightly upmarket badge don't.
I bought a new Hyundai sonata for luxury and a new jetta gli for performance.
Feel like they made it longer because the Passat is going bye bye.
“Out of a German sports sedan”. Made in Mexico...sigh, oh, well...
I love their TV ads, "German engineered" I add: "built in Mexico"
But I’m guessing none of you cocky people have done enough research to realize that the VW made in Germany were more faulty than the ones made in Mexico. Further more the 2019 model offered a 7 year warranty which is what I have.
Btw you cocky fools, my “ Mexican” Jetta has been stage 2 pushing 340Whp over 90k miles without any issues.
Silly little people
the cars are german engineered - the people putting them together do not need to be german. i see people bring this up all the time but it makes no sense. the engineering is what matters. if you build a nissan in germany it will not feel any different due to the people who are putting it together.... it all comes down to who is engineering the vehicles which for VW is still germans.
@@neekjp Absolutely! In the same way that a Toyota or Honda made in the US is the same as one made in Japan. Reliability is an engineering matter almost always.
@@jjchicken7242 When I'm paying good money for a premium German sports sedan, I want it to be made with high quality German materials by skilled Germans in Germany. I don't think that's an unreasonable request, do you?
They are great when they are new and when they are get older and they get junkies
Wrong.. I have been driving Jetta for the last 14 yrs with Zero issues.
Anyone know if the LSD is standard?
It is on the gli now autobahn not sure the s model or base
Vw gli is the best no argument
Elantra won the title: "The Ugliest car of the year!"
It's a shame. I rented a 2015 and thought it was a solid nice looking car.