The brief comparison of Ming and Qing empresses

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @vishnukanagalingam1991
    @vishnukanagalingam1991 Год назад +8

    I love learning about Chinese empresses. Thank you so very much for this video. It's great how most Qing emperors made sure that their empresses had stable and strong positions in court.
    I am looking forward to the video about Emperor Jiajing's empresses.
    Who was that Ming emperor who wasn't married?
    Also, I noticed that you placed a question mark at the sentence that stated that Empress Sun was the biological mother of the emperor. Is that a doubt to his maternity?
    Thank you again for this awesome video.

  • @emilygorter2589
    @emilygorter2589 Год назад +5

    I feel, that while there was no Record of the Imperial harem wars, doesn't mean they didn't happen. Maybe it was a lot more subtle than Ming Dynasty.

    • @MH-ms1dg
      @MH-ms1dg Год назад +3

      We certainly know from Tang and Han history that they did
      Often way more gruesome than the shows

  • @Meela234
    @Meela234 Год назад

    I love these videos. Sounds like the best thing about Ming dynasty was the vases, because living during that time was very hard, especially for the women.

  • @SolitaryBee-wd5wf
    @SolitaryBee-wd5wf Год назад +2

    I wonder what Empress Xiaoshencheng was like considering your video on Empress Xiaoquancheng who apparently monopolized Daoguang's favor to the point of punishing other imperial women if he visited them. She along with Empress Xiaoherui and possibly Empress Xiaojingcheng seemed to be the only ones who could restrain Empress Xiaoquancheng without drawing Daoguang's ire.

    • @vishnukanagalingam1991
      @vishnukanagalingam1991 Год назад

      Great video idea. I believe even as hostile as Empress Xiaoquancheng may have been, she still had to strictly observe the decorum expected of someone of her rank. She knew that there was a line that shouldn't be crossed especially with ladies of higher ranks.

    • @doreensika837
      @doreensika837 Год назад

      @@vishnukanagalingam1991but she was greatly jealous that is well known, it was even rumored the empress dowager gongci killed her cause of her behavior and their rocky relationship.

    • @vishnukanagalingam1991
      @vishnukanagalingam1991 Год назад

      @@doreensika837 Yes, she was infamously jealous.

    • @SolitaryBee-wd5wf
      @SolitaryBee-wd5wf Год назад

      ​@@doreensika837 I wonder, since Bing also already did a video on Empress Xiaoquancheng's death and thinks that the empress dowager couldn't have been part of the cause of her death, do you think it could have instead been one of Daoguang's imperial women who might have done it if she did die unnaturally considering they would have more of a motive in wanting to get rid of Empress Xiaoquancheng?

    • @doreensika837
      @doreensika837 Год назад +1

      @@SolitaryBee-wd5wf personally apart from the empress dowager having a strong reason the next in line for empress was empress xiaojingcheng and she was equally favored. I think the possibility of it being her was more evident when the emperor died and the new emperor Xiangfeng was enthroned how she was able to forcefully get the title of empress dowager although she was not the emperor’s biological mother or late emperor’s empress when he was alive. She and her son prince Yixin issued an edict naming her to be empress dowager this edict didn’t have the emperor’s permission so to save himself the embarrassment the emperor went along with it. She was too eager for that title so there is a possibility of her being the culprit.
      Side note, if I was the emperor and my brother issued that edict I would have revoked it and punished my brother and demote the empress xaiojingcheng from imperial Nobel consort dowager to Nobel lady dowager to teach them a lesson. She had no right for that title. Xiangfeng was too weak of ruler. I honestly feel the rise of weak men and women that thought they were too strong and dominated the court without strong head for ruling and great leadership was the downfall of the Qing empire. There have been many women that ruled successfully in ancient China that did amazingly well like Wu zetian and empress Liu of Song Dynasty. With the women of Qing dynasty they were too power hungry without knowing how to mobilize that power to rule effectively.

  • @TuesdayK970
    @TuesdayK970 Год назад

    Hi, I love watching your videos. Thanks for educating me.
    Please I have a question. In the Qing Dynasty, apart from yellow which belonged to the Emperor, and the Empress Dowager and Empress had permission to wear. Were there any other colours that was decided according to the rank of the wearer? I'm talking about casual wear, not ceremonial wear.
    Also, in a scene in Ruyi, Jia Pin made an unnecessary show of pointing out that Ruyi is wearing Peonies embroidery on her clothing. Is there anything important about this?

  • @Nalon1984
    @Nalon1984 Год назад

    Thank for your Video.
    It Sound the Woman in the Ming Dynastie has more controll about the Emperor.😆
    But i see 👀 a lot stuff vor a lot of Drama Serie´s 👀👀👀. A lot!!!
    Thank you Bing.

  • @doreensika837
    @doreensika837 Год назад

    I think you have already told the story of emperor jiajing’s empress fang dying in fire. If I remember correctly after renyin palace rebellion empress fang killed Jianjings favorite concubine consort Duan so when her building got caught on fire he refused to let anyone help her saying it was the will of heave. Thanks as always Bing.

  • @MandaLynn8
    @MandaLynn8 Год назад +1

    You knew we were going to ask for those stories. I am curious what happened to empress dethroned and still living. Were they sent out, locked up or just forced to live in the harem?

  • @emilygorter2589
    @emilygorter2589 Год назад

    I feel, that while there was no Record of the Imperial harem wars, doesn't mean they didn't happen. Maybe it was a lot more subtle than Ming Dynasty.

    • @vishnukanagalingam1991
      @vishnukanagalingam1991 Год назад

      If they did exist during the Qing dynasty, it could be that they were not of a political nature unlike the ones that took place during the Ming dynasty which were all out upheavals.

    • @ancientchinesehistorychannel
      @ancientchinesehistorychannel  Год назад +2

      Qing imperial women promotion rules are very special. Under these rules, no need to fight with each other.🤭

    • @emilygorter2589
      @emilygorter2589 Год назад

      @@ancientchinesehistorychannel What about the Qing imperial women whose ending is vague? Like those two sisters, not the Consort but the Noble Lady.