Update: Measure D has officially failed. I would like to thank each and everyone of my viewers for making sure that we preserve what’s left of railroading in Santa Cruz County. I really couldn’t have done it without each and everyone of you. However, the war is not over yet. The RTC still has to vote on continuing with the rail and trail or going against what the public has already voted on and goes forward with abandonment. We may have won the battle, but the war is not over.
Speaking of ," Funding is not complete funding" I remember when Greenway claimed on their website Timeline that all $85 million dollars from the 2016 voter approved Measure D was for the building of the trail and that $70 million could build it. Not true. The SCCRTC website for Measure D Expenditures shows on the chart a breakdown of where the money is going. 17% or $85 million dollars for the Coastal Rail Trail. Plus another 8%. This money is for the upgrade of the corridor and this is how the trail is being built at all. The money is for transportation, not recreation. So that was a big lie. Just like all these years hearing from GW the corridor isn't wide enough for a train along the trail (the tracks are there already) but after the fear mongering campaign to get voters to vote yes on Measure L to preserve the corridor for cyclists, pedestrians and other forms of human powered transportation they (Greenway) talked about running buses on the corridor. Corridor is not wide enough for a train but it is for a motorized bus? Bus would take up more room as steel walls would be needed to keep bus from careening into pedestrians and cyclists. More lies. A trail only is not logical. Beware of the Greenway Trojan Horse boondoggle.
Vote No on D. Removing the tracks would cost up to $2 million per mile. Do the math: $64 million to destroy a valuable public resource with a tear out of the tracks. Cost of upgrading tracks from class one to two: $130K up to $500K per mile. Source: Railroad Engineering and Construction website. If some twenty two miles of track would be upgraded from Manresa Beach to Swift Street, it would cost up to $10 million, depending on the percentage of rock and ties that would need to be replaced, and already some stretches of the line are class two, as in Aptos Village, where seamless tracks are being put in currently, and have already at the Nicene Marks intersection, and the Murray Street Bridge. There would be a higher cost to upgrade to class 3 between Manresa and the freeway west of Watsonville, about five miles of track, so add on another $10 million, which also would cover repairs to a few trestles. Tig-Ms are way, lighter than fifty boxcars loaded with cement and three locomotives, so the weight of a light rail vehicle is not going to be a factor with those trestles overall. For well under the cost to remove, Santa Cruz County could have light rail service. And there would be NO need to build stations or parking lots. Light rail stops would be like bus stops, and many people would be able to walk to those stops from their homes, or bike to them, and bring the bike along. Even Cal Train between San Jose and Gilroy has only two stations that are used: the one near Downtown San Jose, and the end of the line at 4th and Townsend in San Francisco. The old train stations at Cal Train stops are not in use nor have they for decades! There are parking lots with vending machines at all the other stops. The only stations being proposed are by Monterey County, for stops at Pajaro and Castroville, that have to do with extended Caltrain service to Salinas. At most stops proposed by those wanting light rail service in Santa Cruz, there are places to park nearby, whether Seascape, Aptos Village, Capitola Village, street parking on 41st Ave., the Boardwalk and Cowell's Beach. Many people would be walking to the various stops anyway, as I already mentioned, I myself from where I live in Seacliff, to a proposed stop on State Park Drive.
i remember when i was a kid, me and my folks went to roaring camp for a simple train ride....apparently there was a robbery the same day we were on it.... my moronic kid self thought it was a show, years later we went on a polar express ride from the boardwalk. it was a fantastic night i tell you what, then there is the fact that my dad used to take me to this part of rail road track when i was little. he took pictures while i watched the train go by. :)
An extremely misleading video with complete mistruths. Funding is not complete funding. Mark Mesiti-Miller and his current and past companies stands to make millions with the complex trail design (hence why he and his partner have contributed over $100,000 so far). Only 4.7% of discontinuous narrow trail have been built over 10 years. No freight has moved on the tracks in 10 years since heavy industry has left the area and Santa Cruz County's ghg emissions have dropped 59% since just the Davenport cement plant closed. Monterey did extremely well with a trail only implementation and so can we. VOTE YES ON D!
Monterey is building electric light rail to Watsonville! Monterey is smart. Santa Cruz needs to be smart too, not stuck in the 1940's with the autocentric thinking that got us in the mess we are in now. RAIL IS THE FUTURE! Rail is the most energy efficient and least environmentally damaging form of transit to move people distance EVER invented, as well as being the least toxic and least impactful on mining and use of materials. Sadly, too many Americans are so propagandized to this old way of thinking.
Wow! And the newsletter from TRAC revealed Jack as an employee of WAYMO, which is why He would love to see Us all stuck on highway one in cars. Or could it be that the line is directly in His backyard?
@@aidasings100 Not only passenger rail. Even the most basic diesel freight train is an order of magnitude better than even electric truck based freight charged by our relatively clean California grid! I know that it sounds surprising, but people have done the math and this is actually the case. Steel on steel rail with zero rolling resistance is insanely efficient. And if we use a more modern diesel locomotive with higher efficiency or some type of electrified freight rail then there is simply no contest. We messed up big time by favoring rubber tire internal combustion vehicles for all uses. For popular routes, rail is just infinitely more efficient, be it for passenger or freight operations. We should not have subsidized ICE vehicles so hard. The sooner we can cut those oil subsidies and return to more rail-based transport the better.
You and Greenway are not just a joke, but a grift and a con! And you made a fool out of yourself at that demo back in October along with those other clowns, like Jack Brown!
Update: Measure D has officially failed. I would like to thank each and everyone of my viewers for making sure that we preserve what’s left of railroading in Santa Cruz County. I really couldn’t have done it without each and everyone of you. However, the war is not over yet. The RTC still has to vote on continuing with the rail and trail or going against what the public has already voted on and goes forward with abandonment. We may have won the battle, but the war is not over.
Speaking of ," Funding is not complete funding" I remember when Greenway claimed on their website Timeline that all $85 million dollars from the 2016 voter approved Measure D was for the building of the trail and that $70 million could build it. Not true.
The SCCRTC website for Measure D Expenditures shows on the chart a breakdown of where the money is going. 17% or $85 million dollars for the Coastal Rail Trail.
Plus another 8%. This money is for the upgrade of the corridor and this is how the trail is being built at all. The money is for transportation, not recreation. So that was a big lie. Just like all these years hearing from GW the corridor isn't wide enough for a train along the trail (the tracks are there already) but after the fear mongering campaign to get voters to vote yes on Measure L to preserve the corridor for cyclists, pedestrians and other forms of human powered transportation they (Greenway) talked about running buses on the corridor. Corridor is not wide enough for a train but it is for a motorized bus? Bus would take up more room as steel walls would be needed to keep bus from careening into pedestrians and cyclists.
More lies. A trail only is not logical.
Beware of the Greenway Trojan Horse boondoggle.
Wonderfully done!!! And so fast. I need to take lessons from you Luke!
Thanks!
Thank you for this excellent information.
You’re welcome!
As long as we spread the word and say NO, hopefully we all can make a different.
Vote No on D. Removing the tracks would cost up to $2 million per mile. Do the math: $64 million to destroy a valuable public resource with a tear out of the tracks. Cost of upgrading tracks from class one to two: $130K up to $500K per mile. Source: Railroad Engineering and Construction website. If some twenty two miles of track would be upgraded from Manresa Beach to Swift Street, it would cost up to $10 million, depending on the percentage of rock and ties that would need to be replaced, and already some stretches of the line are class two, as in Aptos Village, where seamless tracks are being put in currently, and have already at the Nicene Marks intersection, and the Murray Street Bridge. There would be a higher cost to upgrade to class 3 between Manresa and the freeway west of Watsonville, about five miles of track, so add on another $10 million, which also would cover repairs to a few trestles. Tig-Ms are way, lighter than fifty boxcars loaded with cement and three locomotives, so the weight of a light rail vehicle is not going to be a factor with those trestles overall. For well under the cost to remove, Santa Cruz County could have light rail service. And there would be NO need to build stations or parking lots. Light rail stops would be like bus stops, and many people would be able to walk to those stops from their homes, or bike to them, and bring the bike along. Even Cal Train between San Jose and Gilroy has only two stations that are used: the one near Downtown San Jose, and the end of the line at 4th and Townsend in San Francisco. The old train stations at Cal Train stops are not in use nor have they for decades! There are parking lots with vending machines at all the other stops. The only stations being proposed are by Monterey County, for stops at Pajaro and Castroville, that have to do with extended Caltrain service to Salinas. At most stops proposed by those wanting light rail service in Santa Cruz, there are places to park nearby, whether Seascape, Aptos Village, Capitola Village, street parking on 41st Ave., the Boardwalk and Cowell's Beach. Many people would be walking to the various stops anyway, as I already mentioned, I myself from where I live in Seacliff, to a proposed stop on State Park Drive.
NO ON D WINS!
The votes are still being counted, but I am optimistic that we will win.
i remember when i was a kid, me and my folks went to roaring camp for a simple train ride....apparently there was a robbery the same day we were on it.... my moronic kid self thought it was a show, years later we went on a polar express ride from the boardwalk. it was a fantastic night i tell you what, then there is the fact that my dad used to take me to this part of rail road track when i was little. he took pictures while i watched the train go by. :)
As long as we keep spreading the word. We will save Railroading. Lets tell Measure D "Were not gonna Take it"
Agree!
I vote no on measure D
Same
Thank you!
You're welcome Mr. Scott!
I noticed you did a face reveal Luke
I will do an official one later. Probably on another livestream.
Ok
I thought you were going to do a face reveal when you hit 4294 subscribers
@@BNSF_SoCal_Productions, I decided to change it. I feel more comfortable doing it now anyway.
Ok
An extremely misleading video with complete mistruths. Funding is not complete funding. Mark Mesiti-Miller and his current and past companies stands to make millions with the complex trail design (hence why he and his partner have contributed over $100,000 so far). Only 4.7% of discontinuous narrow trail have been built over 10 years. No freight has moved on the tracks in 10 years since heavy industry has left the area and Santa Cruz County's ghg emissions have dropped 59% since just the Davenport cement plant closed. Monterey did extremely well with a trail only implementation and so can we. VOTE YES ON D!
Vote No you dork
Monterey is building electric light rail to Watsonville! Monterey is smart. Santa Cruz needs to be smart too, not stuck in the 1940's with the autocentric thinking that got us in the mess we are in now. RAIL IS THE FUTURE! Rail is the most energy efficient and least environmentally damaging form of transit to move people distance EVER invented, as well as being the least toxic and least impactful on mining and use of materials. Sadly, too many Americans are so propagandized to this old way of thinking.
We all know you're spouting outright and intentional lies, Jack Brown. You are despicable.
Wow! And the newsletter from TRAC revealed Jack as an employee of WAYMO, which is why He would love to see Us all stuck on highway one in cars. Or could it be that the line is directly in His backyard?
@@aidasings100 Not only passenger rail. Even the most basic diesel freight train is an order of magnitude better than even electric truck based freight charged by our relatively clean California grid! I know that it sounds surprising, but people have done the math and this is actually the case. Steel on steel rail with zero rolling resistance is insanely efficient. And if we use a more modern diesel locomotive with higher efficiency or some type of electrified freight rail then there is simply no contest.
We messed up big time by favoring rubber tire internal combustion vehicles for all uses. For popular routes, rail is just infinitely more efficient, be it for passenger or freight operations. We should not have subsidized ICE vehicles so hard. The sooner we can cut those oil subsidies and return to more rail-based transport the better.
This is a joke?
Nope. This is a very serious push by a Trail organization to rip up a piece of local history.
@@TrainGuru so you're not actually concerned about near-term transportation solutions. You're concerned about leaving rusted rails.
@@SteelandFeels not at all. I am interested in public transit for the Branch, but it requires that the tracks stay.
You and Greenway are not just a joke, but a grift and a con! And you made a fool out of yourself at that demo back in October along with those other clowns, like Jack Brown!
@@SteelandFeels Ever hear of something called upgrading RR tracks? Read my reply above! All RR tracks get rusted over time! Get a clue!