2023 Kawasaki ZX4RR Q&A from First Ride
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Kudos to Kawasaki for remembering that some people think the ride is more important than bragging rights 😎
Lol so true
Forget those people harping-on about comparisons to other bikes. Damn, each bike is it's own animal and this bike has it's own vibe.
People either get it or they're lost in the materialistic self-conscious trap of an inferiority complex. Ask anyone who ever had an early inline-screamer and they'll say they wished they never sold it/crashed it.
so true
Definitely a raw video please! Love the “I can’t focus…I just want to play.” 😂😂
I'm k thanks Elizabeth If it isn't raining tomorrow I'll try and to that. Haha my adhd kicks in and I just wanna ride not talk about it lol
@@ScoutsOut Definitely loved this, what I like the most is that you just have a blast and I love seeing it dude!
@@ScoutsOut I'm waiting for a raw video when you put an exhaust on that beauty!
@@ScoutsOut - Gotta comment on that road/route too; phenomenal stretch and the scenery just adds to the ride.
Must be one of those roads where you're confident there are no radar/troopers. Watch out for "The Bronze".
@@ScoutsOut totally get it! adhd here too! 😂😂
New sub here, a 61 year old rider that has ridden so many bikes over my lifetime. I don't fit the demographics for this bike. But to me, I enjoy using 100% of the bikes power vs. 30%(?) of a liter class super sport. I've ordered on here in VA and it should be here in the next 2 weeks. There's a full stop holdup, there's a defective brake switch recall that Kawasaki is backordered on the part. I have a small moto YT channel, and as a fellow content creator, long term rider, I really appreciate your honesty and how you presented the ZX4RR. All the best on your new bike and great YT channel. Eric
Thank you and welcome to the channel! I so agree it is a lot more fun to be able to use the bike, I think as we progress as riders we all get there at some point. I’ll check out your channel, and thank you Eric 🍻
Me too. 69 yrs old and only have time for the best bikes. Ones that don't try to kill me.
Trading the Z900RS. Control matters.
56 here and picked up my 2023 ZX4-RR in Feb. Works good for me even though I am a old fart.
I have been looking to get another bike after not riding for 20 years (53yr old now). Your videos on the 4RR reminded me of WHY I rode and WHAT I wanted. Looked at the 6R first.. A LOT of bike. Saw this, perfect for me. Thank you so much for the videos.
haha nice, glad it could bring back some good memories. I hear ya with the 6R I has one just didn't need all the power this is just ride for my style of riding...cheers!
The 4RR is such a cool bike. I'm a 636 owner and play around on those same kinds of roads the same way. What's so startling is how much easier the 4RR appears to flick around and rides the rails. It's also cool jumping around gears to really search for that power. 636 can make you really lazy on shifting because it has grunt to get away with it. This little 400 reminds me of my dirtbiking days- really working the bike. I'd love to have one, but I'm not ditching the ZX6R any time soon.
Thank you, yea it's been a ton of fun. I think the shorter wheel base and where the weight is on the bike make it more playful.
@@ScoutsOut
Can motorcycles be sweet like girls? All sizes count?
Sorry ,that sounded kind of rude or disrespectful.
When all is considered though, the Ninja400 impresses the heck out of me just reading about it. The gentle torque low in the revs and light weight make it perfect for beginner riders, especially girls. We ALL know that bike can really kick ass big time in it's zone.
Not enough women ride motorcycles but they certainly deserve to.
Nothing sexier in a helmet. Sorry again.. You GO Gals!
GROWL like you mean it, BABY!
Haha yea the n400 is still the best beginner bike that is worth keeping and fun for experienced riders too
@@ScoutsOut
Ralf Nader said the words "Unsafe at any Speed" about the Chevrolet Corvair due it's rear engine or was it the Ford Pinto where they chose to put the gas tank in the back?
"Unsafe at any Speed" ?
The Kawasaki Triples were funningly unsafe. Well .. Yeah.
This new bike from Kawasaki seems to show that it can STILL be safe at ANY Speed. As long as the rider has time to learn more about her new ride every day.
I own one of the last 400/4s in the US before this, the Honda CB-1. Gear driven cams baby! So happy to see these back stateside!
The CB-1 was a VERY cool motorcycle!
Yea im hoping they really come back and this isn’t just a fad as these bikes are just so much fun
Good point on why this instead of a 600: its more fun riding a small bike fast than a fast bike slow
Thanks its so much fun to just whale this bike through its gears
Yeah but the same price tag just kills me.
@@efremendez truth be told, you're getting more bang for your buck with a ZX-4R: ZX-6R cost that much because the tooling, the R&D, and the marketing has been paid
Dude, I'm a ZX-25R owner and what you said right at the start about people always bitching about the spec sheet is what I've been saying from the very beginning. All the bitching once the bike was released about weight, price, blah blah blah. They said the same thing with the ZX-25R! But once you RIDE ONE, you don't give two shits about the numbers because it's sooo damn fun.
Yea man all about power for some 🤷🏻♂️ I just want to enjoy a good bike. I wish we would have gotten the inline 4 250s over here or the 125's I would have bought them. Thanks for the comment
I just looked up the Graves dyno charts, it's definitely interesting that it drops off past 11k, it seems obvious that they're limiting it at the top. Maybe to pass emissions? It's nice that it's easy to open it up though. The exciting part about this bike to me is having a silly amount of power for such a small engine right up at the top, and it would be a shame to not be able to access the real powerband.
Hopefully we see some good weight saving mods down the line, 400+ pounds for a small bike is a little porky for my taste.
Yea for sure it's nice that it's an easy fix but your right she is still a little chunky
From what I've read, it was a noise limit they were chasing. They reduced the power and noise in the simplest way possible - it literally just reduces the throttle as the RPMs rise!
@@JETZcorp it decouples the throttle tube from the butterfly valves like many vehicles do, in other words pretend it’s a mechanical cable throttle, at WOT it opens the butterfly valve completely so it stands on end.
Past 11k rpm though, the butterfly valve is only able to open 90% for example (idk the actual numbers for this bike).
So yea it still makes power obviously just not as much as it could.
100% agreed on it being a cool bike regardless of power level -- I already bought one bike this year, but I think this'll be on my list for next year!
Nice dude, what did you nab up this year?
Then your not concerned with value. Sorry. For a squid yes this is a great bike if it was 7-8K new.
For someone who’s been riding for 23 years. To a new rider. Get the 400 then a middleweight. Skip this.
@@ScoutsOut Picked up a Super Duke Evo, it's ridiculous
@@alejandrotobienne8220 You're right, I'm not! I think this is a fun, niche bike for those of us who like to rev an engine out without going 200 MPH. I don't think this bike is aimed at new riders at all, though we'll see how Kawi markets it
@@ScoutsOut
I Like that you read our comments. I love what your fans have to say.
"You got fans" ???
Hey Man! Yeah! You are doing something right! For Sure! You have followers, some thing. You are good.
Nice to see you having so much fun .. happy for you .. like a kid again ..
Thanks man so true just grinning ear to ear on this thing
It's more fun to ride a slow motorcycle fast than it is to ride a fast motorcycle slow👍
So true man I wish more people understood that it's weird trying to explain it in a video you either know or you just don't lol
Yes and no, it depends on where you ride and speeds. I like my 1000 for triple digit sweepers and highway romps, but definitely don't enjoy it in town and lower speed riding because I miss constantly shifting and going WoT in every gear to maximize speeds on my old XSR700 for example. That's why owning 1 bike just isn't enough!
I'm lucky to have a lot of twisty backroads where I do most of my riding and it's my favorite type of riding. Sometimes I forget how much fun a big bike is to bang through some gears on an open highway.
Definitely looking forward to a raw sound video on one of those! Preferably with an exhaust! 😁
Oh yeah, this is an engine/bike that never needs a soundtrack (no bike vids should have music). That said, I don't mind Scouts Out commentating.
Totally i keep riding every day just to hear the dang thing lol
I got my name down on the list to be the first person from my dealership!!! IM SO F$&ing EXCITED!!!
Nice man i bet! Hopefully it comes in soon
New subscriber here
I’m 58 years old
Been riding all kinds of big heavy bikes for 40 years
I currently own a Harley Streetglide Special all pimped out
BMW R1250 GS
and a couple of other non descript bikes
I picked up my new ZX4RR on Thursday before Memorial Day
It is the most fun bike I’ve ever ridden
Yes it feels detuned but the sound from the ram air intake is intoxicating it’s 😊better than a slip on exhaust which will cancel out the ram air sound
I may leave it bone stock just an ECU flash after break in
This bike is very addictive
My other bikes will be collecting dust
Haha! Welcome to the channel and congrats on the new bike. I could agree more it's such a pleasure to ride!
KEEP Pumping out these Videos!
We are all watching. Ride Safe.
My Bike was the 'Original WidowMaker"
Well.. THAT was FUN!
Just don't get hurt.
Thanks man I appreciate that, will do
@@ScoutsOut
Your expressive personality is really good. So very few of us Subscribers actually ride a motorcycle or ever had or will ever.
We can really feel our fantasy's through you! Excellent work by you and your team.
We are looking forward to your progressive upgrades on this, such, curious bike and your thoughts and feelings just like the so few lucky ones, that actually have one.
Please keep us up to date on how many are being sold and where. Yes, it is very much a very daring move by Kawasaki. Trend setter, Man. Top THIS!
@@ScoutsOut
Every thing costs money. Impressing the people with safety and defensive riding in traffic is really important and being aware of what idiots could do to you at any moment. Riders need instant reflex's
Your channel has to grow. I would love if you could find support to direct your videos to awareness and safety in traffic for beginners. Your voice and personality is excellent.
To pursue that, you may have to find an animator artist unless you can draw your self. for example, what are other people thinking at an intersection or stoplights.
On a Motorcycle, you have to predict the unthinkable. People can be mindlessly stupid and proud.
Yeah. right now, you are being known because of a very special new Kawasaki. You are not alone.
You have day to day riding talent you need to share for others just starting out and so NUCH MORE !
LEARNING how to land off a bike and stuff.
You can research but connecting with other people in your area that want to teach safety in person to a group voluntarily is awesome. You got the platform .We want more women riding motorcycles as safely as possible..
Thank you! I'm excited to share it all and the mods and maintenance... this is going to be a fun bike to own
Thanks for responding to our questions.
My friend I get it, but many don't regarding having more fun riding a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.
I mean most 600 Supersport bikes can hit 60-80mph in first gear, not much fun on the street.
I'm so glad that the bike is still lots of fun and entertaining even with it being neutered.
The high revving nature of this bike must be incredibly addictive.
I found a dealer with one available in Canada with an out the door price of $12,800 CDN, or $9,418 US. Pretty good price, includes sales tax.
At least now you have something to look forward to, another 20+ hp.😉
Enjoy.
You are exactly right. 600s now are most completely pointless for the street. You are either going to be riding around in first and second gear or doing mostly highway pulls which gets boring at some point. IMO for sport bikes and naked bikes more than 100 HP is just a waste.
Yes but most don’t ride to redline. At least folks who plan to keep their bike and purchase more. It’s an expensive hobby. And I’d like to get at least 70k out of my bikes before rebuilding. Not to mention. A valve job is about 1000 dollars on any inline 4. Redlining a bike comes with disadvantages as well as advantages. I shift regardless of throttle position at 10k at most. And even less in traffic when temps aren’t a stable 180 but 200+. These are things you learn when you not only ride your bike. But do all the maintenance and repairs on them. If not. Your deff spending some money.
@@spartanx169xthen you don’t know how to ride. I only ride 600’s and 750’s and shift through all my gears on the road. If you ride wot then every bike is too much for the street. Regardless of 8K or 16k redline. And remind me not to purchase a used bike from you either. 🤣🤣🤫
@@alejandrotobienne8220
My friend, as you mentioned you short shift all the time when you ride, then there is absolutely no reason for you to buy a motorcycle with a 16,000 rpm redline, none.
You would be wasting your money, so you would be much better off with a Ninja 400.
The whole point of a small-capacity inline-4 screaming 16000 RPM Redline engine is for you to rev the crap out of it, and hear that high pitched scream from the engine.
My advice to you sir, is don't waste your money on the zx4rr and get yourself the Ninja 400 or Yamaha R3, you'd be much happier and save a lot of money, and leave the zx4rr for someone who will truly enjoy it.
Personally, if I pick up a zx4rr I plan to wring its neck every time I ride it, all the way to redline because that's what it was made for.
@@alejandrotobienne8220
Here you go my friend.
This video shows that the zx4rr is not the bike for you, it's for those who will rev it out.
ruclips.net/video/bWxmvzl2KhA/видео.html
New subscribers from Mexico, I’m going to buy that zx4rr at the end of the year, I love it!!
Graci sir! It’s such a fun bike bro
I love that you can bang it though the gears and you didn't even break 90
yea man you get to play around pretty good before you are totally breaking the law
I guess you right, and Kawasaki did a good job on that 400rr I also owned big bikes and it’s hard nowadays to use all the power they got and actually having fun , good video mate 👍🏼
Thank you, yea they hit this one out of the park imo
Def need another one with raw sound. The camera setup really shows how flickable the bike is. Subbed for more 👍
Thanks man and welcome to the channel
You totally hit the nail on the head! Getting the 636 in it's fun power zone means you are riding way too fast for public roads, however you could still have the 400 in it's power zone, but not be going as fast. It is also the reason why I love the RX-8 and Scion FR-s/BRZ (even though I have boosted my Scion now). They are fun to drive in that power zone and I wasn't worried about "Too much" power. That is what I missed about my 300 vs. 636. I had more fun in the corners on that little bike than I did on the 636. I also rarely ever used the power on the ZX6R as well. Man I need another bike.
Haha thanks bro, so true!
Excellent video !!! I've owned a Ninja 650 since 2018 and ride it similarly to you. But I've had 4 cylinders in the past and miss the smoothness and whine of the engine! The 400 RR would be perrrrfect for my style of riding!!!
ya man im sure you would love it as much as I do this thing is just so much fun!!
Damn that little bike looks so much fun! I cannot wait to hear the new exhaust. For the street, that bike is plenty and more fun than a 600cc or 1000cc. Yeah they will have the power on the straight obviously but where is it safe enough to fully open the throttle of the 600 or 1000s. At least with the 400 you can use all that power which makes you feel even better about it and I bet that 400 turns faster than a heavy 600. Great video and I cannot wait for the future videos.
it's like 15lbs lighter than a zx6r. it's not like it's 50lbs. it's also only $1k less. once you put a pipe on it, you are at the same price range as a zx-6r.
So true man this thing is truly a blast for some canyon carving
@@ScoutsOut it looks amazing. I would definitely consider getting one if I had the cash 😂
Thanks for the feedback on the questions. It will be interesting to see upcoming mods.
glad you liked it, I was excited to get exhaust to day but its delayed for a few days but ive been able to install a few mods and will have that vid out soon
Of course I appreciate your optimism and yeah I’d be enjoying it too. That said a 1/3 more hp, I’d be counting the days until it’s ecu could be flashed or a fuel dongle is offered to release all it’s potential. I think with the ram-air it’ll be 80+ HP when ungoverned. I really like this bike though and enjoying your videos. Thank you
much appreciated and I can't wait to unlock it too, its going to be nice to get the small bump with the exhaust then a real bump with the tune later down the road when one comes out
@@ScoutsOut I’m watching all your content around this bike with much anticipation because it’s definitely on my radar for my next purchase. Thank you for the videos
I have 2 400's, this one is badass and I must get one.
Yea man, might be time to drop one for the 4rr
Total understand of what you have mentioned: I have owned and ridden almost every size of the Kawa sport bikes (Ninja300, Ninja400, Zx636, and Zx10R), and I still think that a inline 4 400 or 500 would be enough for anyone who ride sportbikes. Correcting-a perfect all around bike for city roads, highways, and freeways. From experiences, the 300 is under power for many cases: 400 with flash ecu is good but not good enough for multiple cars passing on country roads and highways: 636 is overkill for city roads: 10 is really overkill for any pave roads, even track; I can honestly say that many big bike riders are slower than good/edvance 400-600cc riders at the track.
Well said, I agree people want faster bikes but yet most lack the experience to even use it. If ego was pushed out of the way and people learned how to ride slow bikes fast they would become considerably better riders faster
A Mazda Miata is more fun around town than a Corvette. Because you actually get to accelerate for more than 3 seconds
so true
Wait… it cost the same as the 636? So it is in the same price range as many beautiful and powerful naked bikes. The problem with this bike is everyone will agree it is super cool, but no one will actually buy it. I like it but I’m not trading my z900 for it.
yea the z900 is so much fun, I rode one at a demo this year I couldn't stop grinning the whole time
I saw the 2wheeldynoworks video, being down on Power is expected these days with stricter emissions. 15000 rpm 4cly is dirty with the correct fuel/air. These new bikes are so damn lean a tune is expected. I believe decat exhaust and a nasty little tune should be 80hp at the wheel. Stay tuned!
yea forsure got the exhaust coming just waiting for FTECU to pop something out
Totally agree with you on 1000cc having too much power for streets.....I think zx4r makes a good allrounder bike...for allround performance i think 400 to 700 cc bikes are enough for normal riders....
so true man, my R7 has been a blast and this little 400 is a ton of fun too. I really don't need bigger bikes
Just saw a tuning video it's alots more than slightly detuned!!
yea a third of its potential HP
If they had never riden and experienced small cc screamers (70s/80s) they dont understand the complete thrill and fun fact this offers. On top of it you get the Most Modern day Handling and Suspension package we never had..It must be tremendous
So true man this is a friggen gem I hope they respark the inline 4s across the board
@@ScoutsOut when they've only been exposed to twins they dont know what a inline small cc can offer...More will be on the way forsure, the performance difference is undeniable
Well said!
Great video!
Thank you
I’m in the uk put a deposit down on one of these beauties but gotta wait till October!
congrats on the new bike but dang hopefully some content can keep ya satisfied till then!
You should get it tuned with a slip on... +20hp... heard US and Canada version is de-tuned.
Totally man, the exhaust is in route just gotta wait till FTECU puts out there tuner for it
@@ScoutsOut nice! Thanks for the review!
Here in Australia they are full power USA Restricted
It sounds like an F1 car. I can’t wait to hear it zing all the way to 16K. A tuner on another channel flashed it and got 20 HP without intake or exhaust mods. This bike at full power will have plenty of performance. It’s a baby superbike!
Huh, I wonder if it's choked up like this for emissions reasons. I hate euro 5 man, they're ruining supersports.
@@vali69 Emissions or noise. Maybe both. The tuner said the gains we’re gotten from fueling, ignition, and throttle mapping.
The exhaust has 3 catalysts. ECU flash, intake and exhaust will get it close to 80 HP spinning at 16000 RPMs. That bike is gonna be a cult classic.
@@perrosdemaiz damn. I hope so. I'd love if they sell a lot of them so then I could get one in a few years 2nd hand for like 5 to 7k euros or something.
I agree!! I can't wait to open it up!
Totally agree! But I think it's the Canadians sound restrictions that's getting us on this one.
I suggest the typical performance mods and then dyno tune it. Try getting every single last drop of power out of it. Also, compare this to the R7 on back to back rides, would be interesting to see
For sure I want my bikes stock dyno numbers then we going after it
Have one on order here in Australia, delivery isnt expected til spring which is october roughly. Its a long wait
yea but time will fly by hopefully some content will keep you content till then
Have you been able to receive an expected price? I haven't seen anything on that yet here in au
ive been waiting for this bike to make it to the US it looks like pure fun
Me to man, its so much fun
BTW in that rain it seems like fairing is not working so well. At that speed those handlebars and such should not be so wet unless you stop somewhere of course.
Yea had to sit a a few stop signs for a while
Thats one beautiful motorcycle my man, will get me one in the near future for now I'll have to settle on my 2015 yamaha r3 lol, and I too had small and big bikes but it's more fun on the smaller bikes. because
Thank you! So much fun to ring out the smaller bikes imo
Oh you are def in California.. I wanted to ask because everything looks so familiar.
Haha yes sir
California, the whole reason Kawi had to neuter the bike for the US. Fuck 'em.
I'm down in San Luis Obispo, thank you I appreciate it 🍻
My ZX-4RR came in last week, and I have yet to pick it up. I come from a background of 400cc bikes. I have a Honda CB-1 and a Honda NC30. But I also have a bunch of other bikes, including a GSX-R1000R. Your comment about liter bikes being too heavy... The GSX-R is only 28 lbs heavier. With my 220 lb ass on the seat, that's a rounding error. I'm looking forward to track days with the little ZX.
nice how exciting, yea I really think the shorter wheelbase is what makes it so playful, can't wait to hear what you think of it
The power situation: Up to 11k rpm if you crank the throttle fully open at WOT it opens the butterfly valve completely so it stands on end & maximizes air intake.
Past 11k rpm though, even when you have the throttle pinned the butterfly valve is only able to open 90% for example (idk the actual numbers for this bike).
So yea it still makes power obviously just not as much as it could.
This also means that it actually makes “full power” even past 11k rpm, but not beyond say 75% -90% throttle. So if you’re cruising at 10k rpm and you go to pass a vehicle and open the throttle 70% and hold it there all the way to redline, you’re actually making the same power you would with a full tune, but not past whatever % they limit the valve to or above, which is why you won’t notice is being down on power in many cases, it’s definitely a preferable approach to limiting the revs entirely.
Yes exactly, I’ll tune it out but it’s still a really fun bike without
@@ScoutsOut it’s got me curious what would win off the line between this and a ninja 400…and to what speed would the ninja stay ahead assuming that it’s torque Carries it ahead first.
@@ScoutsOut although on the flip side…if it doesn’t matter whether the bike is making full power or not, maybe a 636 with a custom map/B mode that revs out fully but limits power so you can have full revs fun at lower speeds when you want but also full 600 power when you want it…Maybe that’s the secret for us single bike garage shmucks
Maybe bro
Miles of smiles!
So true just miles and miles of it
Best of the best
Yea man this bike is so fun!
I have been a 636 fanboy simply because of the comfort. I was really disappointed with the 400 being so skinny so this is a little exciting to try out. Only thing that would bother me would be the price compared to the 636 which you made a great argument.
Yea that was my dislike on the N400 it was just too narrow and the ergos were sport naked like, let me k is what you think of you get to try one out
I'm confident some tuner is going to find a way to unlock the potential of the engine. Years after I bought a z900rs (yes, I regret selling it now), one tuner found a way to "uncap" the engine from its "modest" 111hp to over 120. Granted, you not only needed to reflash the ECU, but also needed to change out the exhaust, BUT it was possible. I've been looking for a light weight screamer and was even considering importing a CBR250rr from the early 90's, but this bike fits the bill so much better. Now I have to sell my current bike and convince the wife I "need" this one. Wonder if they're going to make a z400rs from this one?
They've already uncorked it to 70+ with a map on stock parts.
I know how you feel. I know all about the "need" conversation, lol.
Yes it appears Kawasaki is making the Z400RS with an inline 4 🎉🎉🎉. It appears they realized the folly of the Z650RS… supposedly being a Retro UJM but duffing it with a parallel twin 😢😂
That will be a fun bike
@@thecamdenyard I saw what looked like photoshopped pics on a few Japanese bike sites so I had my hopes up, but I've been let down before (Honda Hornet and CBR600rr anyone?) I was sure they were going to just modify the current Ninja 400 into a retro styled bike, so I'm keeping my expectations low for now. The only obstacle would probably be the success of this ZX4R and what price they can set another retro bike at. New, the 4R is going to be $9200-9500? The Z900RS is near $11,000. I guess that places the Z400RS around $10k... might be a tough pill to swallow for a low displacement inline 4... but then again - there's really no competitors for it in North America, unless you look at the higher priced mid displacement Euro models like KTM and Triumph. I agree, the z650rs is all show, no go. They should have at least used a crossplane twin for it. It's a "good" bike, but falls far short of expectations. I'm letting go of the DRZ in the next year, so I may have just found my next bike, if it becomes a reality
Plz, do some in-town / slow speed riding review video. Thanks
Ok I'll add it to the review vid here shortly
Man, the sound on this bike is awesome. I have a ninja 300 and a inline 4 just sounds awesome. So a few questions. How does the bike feel? In terms of size. I know on my 300, sometimes it feels cramped. I'm no giant, but the 300 feels small. My second question is, how does it compare to your R7? I know the R7 is a parallel and the Ninja 4rr is an inline 4, but in terms of usable power and quickness, which do you prefer. Enjoy that Ninja, I'm so jelly.
Yea man it really does and I can't wait to put the exhaust on it to let the sound out. In terms of size I think the triangle is a little small, which is weird because the bike is so close to 600 cc size. It's still to early to tell whether I like it or the r7 better I do t want the new bike excitement to cloud my opinion. But man this thing is so much fun to just listen to it scream
I've always said, of all my bikes my little Honda NC30 was the best of the lot. Screaming the nuts out of my little 400 when the roads were in better condition and less congested as they are today, was the best. Frenetic as f@#*, but fun.
So true so much fun to just bang them gears
I ride my R7 like I stole it lol. Damn things screaming and above 7.5k more often then not. 14.5k miles on her now and installed a new LV exhaust.
Haha me too man I love my r7 and with the exhaust man doesn't that twin sound good!
@@ScoutsOut just uploaded a short bro take a listen 🤘🏻
Assuming this is 2/3rds as powerful as a 600 supersport then 79hp is adequate. If you’re lucky then you might be able to extract 86.5-87hp from this bike.
Yea I would think that is possible with a full some intake mods and a good tune
This road that your on looks a lot like Derbyshire in the UK. It even rains like Derbyshire. 😆 👍
Haha that’s awesome I’d love to go to the UK some day. Happy holidays
If these bikes get ~70 ponies at the back tire (with a pump gas remap) that corresponds to ~80 at the crankshaft.
Yea with some mods should be a really fun bike
a video going on the mountain in lompoc would be cool
What area in Lompoc? I haven't spent much time down there but I'm always looking for some good roads
More please.
More to follow sir!!!
This is such a great bike, definitely a goal of mine. $11,700cad is way too much though
Yea it's a little high, hopefully the r will be cheaper when it comes out
Love the bike bro. I'm buying one. I down graded from my 05 636 to a ninja 300 in 3015 just because I didn't need the extra power and I liked winding out my 300 with out doing 150mph. People thought I was crazy to do so but you just proved why anyone wud do that
Anyway my question is does it wheelie without popping the clutch? Probably not
That's awesome you're gonna love it! It will be an amazing upgrade from your 300.
No, gonna need to double clutch it.
What’s life like in 3015?
Electric motos that fly but you can't steer them lol
Exactly!!
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3:19 thank you, this was my personal request, although now I know why I was struggling to hear the autoblip last time 😂
Nice dude glad you seen it, i tried to find you comment and put it in the vid but i could find it even searching for your name. I dont know if RUclips deletes comments or the comment search feature sucks 🤷🏻♂️
@@ScoutsOut hmmm that’s interesting. I just commented beneath that comment to help you find it fwiw. You can always go back to the video comment section if you can’t find it. You sure you were searching for comments on your videos not comments you made right? I made that mistake a couple times 😂
@@ScoutsOut and thanks for remembering and demonstrating in the video btw. Random question but how serious are you about this channel? Like do you have a vision for it and what you want it to be? Plan on making it something pretty big or just a small pastime alongside your riding?
Maybe I was in the wrong spot lol
I want to grow for sure just hard as I have a demanding full time job and I'm doing part time school
Dude I your find you thoughts on a 600 so mature, there is a crowd on youtube that get so angry when one is honest about the reality of 600's and cant accept that often a little 400 or even the R7 can be more fun... then all they have is insults when you ask them to back up their off the cuff arguments with any facts... It's kinda weird.
Thank you and i totally agree, its funny how egotistical people can get.
I want more minutes equal to minute 8. Definitely, less cc is more fun, greetings from Spain!
Thank you cheers
Once its tuned can you do a 0-60 test? Really interested to see what it is as i haven't found it anywhere.
Yea dude for sure will do
Just watched a video yesterday about that. They got about 20hp extra out of it just with a tune (stock exhaust). The stock tune stops building power past 11,000rpm and tuning liberates the power that is restricted from the factory.
I suspect that they limit it for emissions reasons as fast revving engines won’t get a complete burn before the exhaust valve has to be opened so it ends up dumping excess emissions down the exhaust.
@@David-lr2vi Yeah, i'm in Australia and it looks like no tune is required here.
@@MrJoelibear I’m in Australia too and here’s hoping a tune won’t be required here. I suspect so as IIRC the video I saw yesterday said they bumped the power from about 50hp to 70hp. If our version had 50hp then it would comply with LAMS and Kawasaki has already advised that our version won’t be LAMS approved.
If the power cut is due to emissions requirements then it makes sense that we will get the full whack of power out of the box as our emissions requirements aren’t as strict as the US and EU.
@@David-lr2vi yep and on the aus website it says it has the full power
How does it compare to the R7 ? Which feels faster ?
It’s hard to say and it’s still got that new bike feel to I can’t make a decision yet outta new bike love
quick question sir! is the insurace cost gonna be same as the ninja 400 or is it determined by how many cylinders the motorcycles running>? pls ty
No sure my insurance is based off cc's but I have to many bikes so I'm not sure exactly how much one of them are
is this a good comparison to a ninja 650 or completly different bikes?
Very different bikes, zx4rr is more of a race bike and the 650 is more a comfy sport tourer
I always used to ride up the whole length of Carmel Valley road starting just south of Soledad…. It looks like you’re running off of highway 5?
I'm riding on 41 which was just repaved last year as it's amazing!
I’ve yet to ride 41 on my motorcycle, but I really enjoyed driving it to my Churches retreat center just north of Oakhurst.
We are lucky on the coast to have so many fun roads
make a riding gear set-up video
Ok I’ll try it’s hard to make that style of vid but I’ll give it hell
I can't wait to get mine. Perfect bike for me to grow with. Coming from a cb300r, it was very fun, I just wanted a little more top end out of it, but not 600 top end.
This is perfect then, especially with the top end detuned you will have a blast they when you want more power just unlock with a simple tune and hold on!!
@@ScoutsOut exactly my thoughts.
I am considering replacing my R7 with a ZX4RR when it comes to europe in autumn. I really like the handling and agility on the R7, how would you compare these two? Also does it feel a lot down on power on the R7 in its current state?
It's hard to say, the power is so different than the r7, I don't think it's faster as it right now but sure feels that way with the high rev screaming
Hey. Question? Could a new/newer rider start on the zx4rr???!
Yes I think you could
I'm so goddamn jelly 😐 But yeah it definitly needs an aftermarket exhaust asap! Any slipon without a db killer will do - just turn up the volume! 😁
Haha so true man, I got the exhaust in route hopefully I’ll be installing it Saturday afternoon
how is it on the highway? im very torn between the zx4rr and the 636 argh
Bro, there is more than enough power to be on the freeway on this thing
It seems that this motorcycle would benefit from shorter gearing. 400cc 40Nm but it can hit 108km/h in 1st gear from what I've seen in another video. Must be slow as hell below 8-9k RPM.
no . from power 👍🏻 gearing is only for setup power at specified velocity it dosent matter longer or shorter 🤭 feg try spin mt01 on 1 gear to 15 k rpm assuming engine dont blee up at 8-9 k rpm os 🤭 you would not have better acceleration but WORSE !!!!! 😂 🫣you mist change gear at 5-5,5 k rpm os cos mt01 have peak power at 4,75 k rpm os from this what im remember get it ? we ride 100 km/h on 5 diffrent bikes and want as fast overtsking as posibble on each and each have 100 hp but 1 at 5000 rpm 2 at 7000 rpm 3 at 9000 rpm 4 at 11000 rpm and 5 at 13000 rpm for have max posible acceleration from this 100 km/h each of this bike must be close to its own specified peak power rpm dosent matter which gear be required and rpm it must be close to peak power cos only peak power generate max conatact path force or thrust 🌪 each of this bike version on rpm close to peak power one with much longer gearing other much shoreter and alll those version go egzacly the same boi 😎 you will have 0 benefit from shorter gearing in 1 version bike which make 100 hp at 5 k rpm change gearing for 5 version setup where you try to be at 13 k rpm like 5 version and it be accelerate like 🐌 🤭👋🏻and vice versa you will have 0 benefit from longer gearing for 5 version where you be not at 13 k rpm but at 5 k rpm 🤭🤮 each must have its own specified rpm and gear whatever for be in race as close to peak max power as posibble as long aspossible 👍🏻👋🏻
@@mociczyczki I managed to get a glimpse of what you're trying to say. Use commas and periods for Christs sake. Yes, it's true this bike is at max power at 100km/h and accelerating at maximum rate. But it could be doing that in 2nd or 3rd gear as well. What about accelerating at 50km/h, when the bike is at 7000rpm producing less than 30hp? You can't downshift, you're in 1st gear. If the gearing was shorter it could be at 10000 RPM at 50km/h and accelerating with 50hp.
@@gogocro1 yep 👌🏻 gearing must be not to short not to long for specified power graph for have max posibble acceleration and top speed 👍🏻1 gear is long but at 50 km/h at launch clutch slip most likely do job 👍🏻 i quees at least for launch cos from roll on short track it be more dififcult to aplly but still posibble with good clutch feeling anyway at 1 gear at laucnh with clutch sliding 0-60 ft be similar to zx10 r 🤭 me sv 650 go head to head at 60 ft with bmw k1300 s 🤷🏻♂️ 👌🏻 1,8-1,9 sec with 1 ft roll out on 👍🏻 depend also how heavy be rider anyways this bike is for normal strong big track not for small weak short for weak bike thats why 1 gear they make long most likely also for decreasing diffrenc betweeen higher gear for be as close to max power always on normal track out of corner and at straight as posiible cos thisbike dont have super wide peak power 😎👍🏻
Yea I might try that after I complete all the upgrade if I feel I need more power lower
Awesome
so much fun!!
I want suzuki 2 bring 1 out
ohh man me too wouldn't a GSXR400 be sick
so thinking about making this my next motorcyle to setup a little while makeing my current rc390 a track toy would this bike be more then enough fun on the street.
Ohh totally man I'm riding this bike more than I thought so far its actually pretty comfortable for what it is. I have the exhaust coming for my rc soon I can't wait to get that bike set up too
tune to add 25hp????? sounds crazy
Yea it sounds like its not even really a tune they aren’t changing fuel mapping with the unrestricted ftecu just taking off the electronic throttle decline, super weird so it should be really cool with a full exhaust and an actual air fuel tune
Is it Slow bike? Currently I have MT07 and I feel sad about it becasue I use only 25-30% throttle while riding becasue using more this bike is too fast and too powerful for city. I kind of miss Mt03 on which I used all the available power and it was fun. Mt03 could have just a little bit more power for highway riding but it was great bike overall.
you might like the Z400 then it was a fun bike I did a review on it last year and almost bought one that day lol
You Hit the Nail on the Head, i have more Fun on my CBR250R in the Twistys than my Gixer K5 600. When it Arrives in the UK i'm having one,.........................Possibly.
Thank you! Yea I just loved to through around the smaller bikes. Hopefully you guys don’t have a restriction like ours
I’d break in the 660 and Italians in general, just not worth the risk at those prices. What did you say about needing to go to the dealer for a oil change? Wtf do you mean? How does that work
Oh yea man the 660’s need a scan tool to reset the oil change or any other major maintenance
@@ScoutsOut yea fuck that, I’ll pay them a nominal fee to reset it after I change my own oil but I’m not paying dealership oil change prices
Yea man that’s what I’ve done so far, I changed my own oil and a local with the tool reset it for me
@@ScoutsOut oh so it has to be reset with a tool but it’s but like that literally void your warranty if you don’t get oil changes at the dealer? That’s not so bad then, I thought that’s what you meant at first. I love the RS/Tuono 660…although there’s been lots of talk of problems and I don’t Gen like researching it atm, and for $12-$14k for a 650, if an admittedly very Spicy and arguable the best 650…definitely the best 650 parallel twin…but yea the fact of the matter is you can get a MV Agusta 800cc triple that SINGS for that price all day long and if you’re going to deal with mechanical issues and dealer support headaches etc then you might as well have an MV Agusta at that point imo. At least you’d have something properly exotic to show for the trouble.
So true bro, if your going to deal with the BS it better be badass!!!
I didn’t notice the revs going up when you downshift, sometimes it did but I couldn’t see your right hand to know if it was you, it has only QS up?
It has up and down QS aka autoblipper
Yes it is so smooth to
Give us different colors and I might consider getting one
I think we get the black r this fall
Do you still have the R7, if so can you make some more videos on it?
Yes I do and there is a new video coming soon
@@ScoutsOut Hell yeah! Good shit!
7:40 Yes my dude, I want that!
Edit: Oh, Oh! Please can you make it 50/60 fps?
yea man its nice, hmm never use higher than 24. ill give it a try next time
@@ScoutsOut Much appreciated
I've had lots faster bikes but my favourite is probably the aprilia rs125 2 stroke I had when I was 19. You had to rev the hell out of it and I did just that. 😂
Haha totally, I'd love to have a small build 125 and use it for cart track that would be sick
Is it worth the zx-4 or should I stick with getting a ninja 400
Hmm I’d say if you have never ridden any type of motorcycle the n400 is the best starter. If you are proficient at riding dirt then is say your good
@@ScoutsOut I currently ride a rmz250 I’ve been on for a good time and before that I rode quads and my dealer has one coming in and they are tuning it and putting a exhaust on as soon as it gets there so it’s very tempting
Ohh yea I'd say 4rr then, let me know what you end up getting
SUBBED. Thanks....
Welcome to the channel 🍻
I think the only reason they tell you keep it under 4k for the first 600 miles is more due to the rider needing to learn the bike. Rather than any actual break in procedure. It really has been proven again and again pretty much no matter how you break it in, it really doesn't make any significant difference. Like missing an oil change by 300 miles insignificant
That's a really good way to look at it, never thought of it that way!
@Scouts Out great video btw. Look forward to seeing what comes of this bike. I had a ninja 400 for a couple years then upgraded to a 20' 636. Although I freaking love the 636 I can't help but agree about smaller bikes being more fun. I'm keeping the 636 but my next bike will definitely be another ninja 3-400
Zx4rr vs cbr650. Topspeed
That would be fun to see I wish I had the cbr too lol
Problem is, at least in the USA, that's a fight between a flashed / unrestricted zx4rr, and a stock cbr650 that limits at the top. If you flash etc the cbr650 it will be just under 150 with a sprocket change, per someone that did all the work here on YT. I have both, the cbr will leave the zx4rr for dead from a stop.
The ZX-4R/RR is limited to 11.5k rpm in Canada due to "noise regulations", according to the website.
Yea but from my understanding it will still go to the 16k but it just doesn't build power after 11.5
I wonder what it's top speed now and top speed after Tune
Yea man if it's not raining tomorrow I'll try and get a top speed
...I 4got to mention, that this bike might be like finding a piece of gold in a toothless man's mouth. My Kawasaki dealer told me they're only getting (4) for the rest of the yr!
damn... hopefully they get more than that
Where are you riding?The us or are you in Canada.
US
It sounds kind of weird that this bike put you in the power band better than the zx6r. Wouldn't dropping a gear put you in the same area with the same power as this bike in a higher gear? You are near redlining 3rd gear going 80mph and on the zx6r 3nd gear has you lower down in the revs but in the sweat spot at around 11k rpm, which in turn would also mean it could ride the same way as this bike with the same power in lower rpms. I can see the argument of the n400 though since it won't have to slow down as much into corners. So does this do the same thing as that? I feel like it wouldn't be the same since I would be ringing n400s neck going up to 90 mph in 6th gear as where you are doing it in 3rd on this bike.
Yes the mayor difference is I’m in 3rd gear going 80 instead of 1st gear going 80 around a corner. I get to use more gears and play it’s just more fun
@@ScoutsOut Are you going 80 in 1st gear on the 636? I've never run it out that far in 1st to know how far it goes.
Yes. My 636 hit 85 in first gear
Yes. My 636 hit 85 in first gear
What’s all the fuss about the tune, was Kawasaki claiming higher performance #’s then what it is?
Yea man, the bike is supposed to have 78hp but apparently it revs out to 11.5 fin and starts to plain off after that due to noise restrictions so the bike is really reduced to 50 some ish hp
@@ScoutsOut yeah probably had to detune it because all the bs sound, emissions or long term reliability. Back in the day it was hard to prove the magazine #’s but now everyone has dyno’s. I’ll bet it gets freed up with some basic mods. What size is the rear tire?
Yea for sure m, it seams like oven the generic FTECU unrestricted tune fixes it so I'll be doing it when I can. The tire is only a 160
@@ScoutsOut 160 is probably good on such a light lower power bike any bigger would slow down the side to side transfers and power, I used to prefer a 180 on my 1k’s they would flick over a lot easier and 180’s were cheaper then 190’s .
So true man, the worst think I did to my ninja 400 was up the rear tire in size. All it really did was make the bike harder to transition